Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[TheGirlsLoveMe]

From these previous comments, it seems like Slim Xtreme is one of the strongest if not the strongest fat burner here. Does it result in a lot of muscle loss? I want to keep as much lean mass from my bulk as possible.

[Henweee]

Anyone taken Cytolean V2? Do you take it every day even non-workout days?

[naturalguy]

try the new animal cuts formula
i tried the old one and was very good

Have you tried the new Animal Cuts formula yet?

[afterwind]

Have you tried the new Animal Cuts formula yet?

I was wondering the same thing. I'm trying to get some reviews on this product before I buy it.

[DNRCMO]

I was wondering the same thing. I'm trying to get some reviews on this product before I buy it.

I've been wondering the same thing. I really liked the old formula; I lost 8 pounds on it. I hit a plateau before taking it and I was suprised at how well it worked. I didn't get all jittery, the only issue I had was taking the pills. I could take all five little ones at once no problem, it was the others that were a little large (but still managed). All in all a great product so I'm assuming the NEW formula has to be better.

[Renegade_37]

If you're looking to really cut down fat then go with Mitotropin. Its ephedra free and has alot of all natural ingrediants in it which in turn means no crash. I've tried Lipo 6 black and even VPX Meltdown and those weren't bad they just caused me to get drowsy after a while and Mitotropin cut me up hardcore. no joke. Its good to follow up with Cytolean V2 as well which will help with more long-term fat reduction and IT ACTUALLY WORKS!

[Renegade_37]

Anyone taken Cytolean V2? Do you take it every day even non-workout days?

Cytolean V2 is good stuff. You can take it on your off days, as it will still curve your appetite and do its job. What I do though is take it only on my workout days so it lasts longer and works better. You should try Mitotropin too.

[naturalguy]

I've been wondering the same thing. I really liked the old formula; I lost 8 pounds on it. I hit a plateau before taking it and I was suprised at how well it worked. I didn't get all jittery, the only issue I had was taking the pills. I could take all five little ones at once no problem, it was the others that were a little large (but still managed). All in all a great product so I'm assuming the NEW formula has to be better.

Just an fyi.........the new Animal Cuts formula is all easy to swallow capsules. You hit the nail on the head when you said you used it to get past a fat burning plateau. That is how fat burners should be used. The new formula is quite effective for that purpose.

[chatgurley77]

anyone know how HotRox, Lipo 6, Thermonex EF, or MeltDown Z14 compares to Zantrex (in terms of suppressing overeating)? i sure hope one of these works better, cuz i've head Zantrex is supposed to be pretty decent in terms of preventing overeating, but when my "female hormones" :mad: kick in, i can f*cking max out on zantrex and still eat like 5,000-6,000 calories/day... :eek:

...a ****LOAD of food considering i'm a 5'3" female doing only like 30 min of cardio/day (due to injuries)... at least estrogen can't f*ck w/ me while i'm on ephedra :p but i obviously need to find another solution now that its banned

Seriously! Im on my woman time right now and usually have no problem with overeating but all I can think about lately is chocolate! haha. I'm supposed to be having 1500 cals a day and used as much will power as I could but still went over by 175 cals! its hard just gotta fight!! What helps me is good substitution. For example, eat right, be fit sugar free chocolate syrup (only 15 cals per 2tbsp) on 98% fat free popcorn or swiss miss sugar free hot cocoa (60 cals).

[afterwind]

Just an fyi.........the new Animal Cuts formula is all easy to swallow capsules. You hit the nail on the head when you said you used it to get past a fat burning plateau. That is how fat burners should be used. The new formula is quite effective for that purpose.

That's why I am looking at taking it. I took Lipo 6 for a while, but lost water weight and gained it all back while within a month or so. I started out at 240, and cut down to 205, but according to the Air Force measurements, I'm still considered overweight by their standards. For my weight I have to be under 200 pounds and I'm having problems losing that last 5-10 pounds so I can get back to where I was when I played basketball. Anyways thanks for the information on Animal Cuts. I will probably try it when I get paid again.

[msbaits]

i have taken lipo-6 for about 8 weeks now and have lost a total of 18 lbs, (185) down to 167. Worked great. I have been a long term user of products from controlled labs ( I have personally bought several tubs of white flood, and have half of my gym taking it ). I am going back on a mass gain, but would like to hear some more on the Reduction PM. Would taking Recution PM and white flood not be too good?

[LIGHTNINGBLITZ]

I am currently working on my last day of Xenadrine Ultra. I get headache's and cant sleep, no matter how much I work out, which was in the form of my MMA training, Boxing, and running 12 miles every night for a couple weeks. I know it helped, but am iffy on the side effects.

Bought the night version of REDuction and Lipo 6, going to start that cycle to break up my second bottle of Xenadrine ultra. Will post results.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i have taken lipo-6 for about 8 weeks now and have lost a total of 18 lbs, (185) down to 167. Worked great. I have been a long term user of products from controlled labs ( I have personally bought several tubs of white flood, and have half of my gym taking it ). I am going back on a mass gain, but would like to hear some more on the Reduction PM. Would taking Recution PM and white flood not be too good?
that would be fine as REDuction PM is stimulant free

I am currently working on my last day of Xenadrine Ultra. I get headache's and cant sleep, no matter how much I work out, which was in the form of my MMA training, Boxing, and running 12 miles every night for a couple weeks. I know it helped, but am iffy on the side effects.

Bought the night version of REDuction and Lipo 6, going to start that cycle to break up my second bottle of Xenadrine ultra. Will post results.

looking forward to your REDuction experiences. :)

[enrisa]

To those taking Lipo 6, does anyone have this crazy hunger pangs every now and then? or sometimes feeling like you overate and you're about to throw (e.g. the food is at the edge of your throat?).

[John_Jacobs]

Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?

[goginski]

Hydroxycut Hardcore did wonders for me but no longer on the market. I am gonna try isatori MX-LS7 next or S.A.N. Tight. They look good going by reviews.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?

why not just go with REDuction am/pm? simpler and very effective.

[majormods]

in regards to reduction PM... i like using other products for the AM stuff, whether it be SX or lip-6black but the question is... since nothing is taken past 4-5pm, how does REDuction PM work?

CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?

[Nivea]

Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?

Slim Xtreme is already extremely loaded with heavy stuff, so be very carefull. If you really want something extra, take either just green tea or Reduction pm, but never any other kind of weight loss product unless you don't care about your health.

I just finished my first magic bottle of Slim Xtreme after 3 months!!! It kept my weight under control when I wasn't exercising and kicked them out when I was doing even the smallest efforts, like working in my garden. This is really extreme :D

But I also have to mention, the magic works with water, so drink lots of it. Find a brand you like and drink it like there's nothing else left to drink on the planet!




CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?


LOL, it makes you dream, like you never dreamed before. I got dreams from it, although I didn't have any in a long time. So I'm guessing it makes your sleep worth more than usual?

[majormods]

Anabolic Slim Extreme

SX Proprietary Blend 450mg

Ingredients:
Cocoa Seed concentrate, Methylxanthine equal to 113mg caffeine/capsule, AminoSlim-4? (Acetylated Tyrosine, Carnitine Salt, Proline Analog [Phenyl-pyrrolidinyltoluene], Hydroxylated Tryptophan), Apple Cider Vinegar Carboxylates (standardized for pyroglutamic and citric acids), Ginseng Root extract (standardized to 80% ginsenosides), Aneurin DBE? (Thiamine disulfide butyrate ester), Acai Berry 4:1 extract (standardized to 10% polyphenolic antioxidants), Cha'de Bugre 10:1 extract (standardized for purine metabolites)


since when do these NOT include caffeine as an added stimulant?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

in regards to reduction PM... i like using other products for the AM stuff, whether it be SX or lip-6black but the question is... since nothing is taken past 4-5pm, how does REDuction PM work?

CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?
it will help with a multitude of benefits including, thermogenesis, appetite reduction and sleep/feeling well rested


LOL, it makes you dream, like you never dreamed before. I got dreams from it, although I didn't have any in a long time. So I'm guessing it makes your sleep worth more than usual?

glad your enjoying it :D

[dagna]

I started taking a stack which I felt would be very effective, but so far it hasn't given me much of a boost, last year I was on/off rapidcuts all year (wasn't consistent) but slowly I got resistance to the energy rush and what not because I wasn't using them properly. Anyways here's what I was stacking, maybe I've been doing something wrong, but it isn't helping me and would love some advice on what fat burner I should switch as base or anything in the stack I should change.

I take VPX Redline liquid caps, Omega 3 caps, Lean X-treme caps, ALC caps, L-Carnitine caps and CLA caps. I pretty much followed this (originally I was going to use VPX meltdown as shown, but they [Company on Ebay] shipped me Redline instead, I complained, but never got a response from them again so I was like whatever).

Routine (found it on google a few months ago):


6:30 AM - Wake Up - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 L-Carnitine Capsules-3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps

7:00 AM - Cardio for 20 Minutes on Stationary Bike

8:00 AM - Breakast(Protein Shake)6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps

10:30 AM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps

12:00 PM - Lunch(Tuna and Green Veggies)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps

1:30 PM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps

4:00 PM - Meal 3(Tuna and Green Veggies)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps

5:00 PM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps

8:00 PM - Meal 4(Lean Meat and Green Veggies/Salad)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps

9:30 PM - Cardio for 20 Minutes on Stationary Bike(Cardio twice a day on non training days)


I don't wake up that early (usually 9-10) as I'm in university so nights get late, but I've been trying to keep my diet as clean as possible while doing cardio and working out almost every single day. Any advice on what I should change in my fat burning supplements would be great as they're not working, I even tried taking 3 caps of Redline, but no rush whatsoever.

[majormods]

sounds like ur body built up a tolerance or resistance to the redline pills. I never got any effect from taking the REDLINE pills but i do fully support many of the other VPX products. I just bought Slim Xtreme based on a TON of good reviews. You could look into Lipo6-Black and see if thats up ur alley.

[dagna]

would it be okay taking that ecen though im only 19? i read that i should be 21 somewhere around here..

[majormods]

would it be okay taking that ecen though im only 19? i read that i should be 21 somewhere around here..

i believe its 18+ for those, not 21.

[dagna]

ah alright, so if I take out redline and put that in, would that be fine? Also would taking REDuction PM as well be okay?

[majormods]

ah alright, so if I take out redline and put that in, would that be fine? Also would taking REDuction PM as well be okay?

i think REDuction PM is a sleep aid more than anything else. Ive taken a cycle of it... i had some BADASS dreams and I never ever ever ever dream, ever. It was hard for me waking up cuz it felt like I could sleep for HOURS longer.

[dagna]

haha, ugh, I tried getting lipo 6 black, but it wont ship to Canada, and I tried Slim Xtreme, same thing, anything else that's intense at all? I don't mind side effects or anything, just need something strong.

[majormods]

haha, ugh, I tried getting lipo 6 black, but it wont ship to Canada, and I tried Slim Xtreme, same thing, anything else that's intense at all? I don't mind side effects or anything, just need something strong.

try to go to a local supplement store instead of ordering online. Hydroxycut Hardcore is pretty good too.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ah alright, so if I take out redline and put that in, would that be fine? Also would taking REDuction PM as well be okay?
yes, that is fine

i think REDuction PM is a sleep aid more than anything else. Ive taken a cycle of it... i had some BADASS dreams and I never ever ever ever dream, ever. It was hard for me waking up cuz it felt like I could sleep for HOURS longer.

fat burner and sleep aid. sleep is essential to cutting weight.

[vickhcky69]

hyperdrive venom3.0 was good for me last yr i went from 230 to 212 in a month but now it seems to not really affect me:(

[its_paul]

So after reading all the negative news on what exactly is in AX formulation in SlimXtreme I will not be taking that product nor will I recommend anyone taking that product.

So my question is, what else do you guys recommend?

I have taking REDuction with nice effects but wanted to try something else out.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have taking REDuction with nice effects but wanted to try something else out.

imo stick with what works for you, as there is a lot of disappointment out there ;)

[its_paul]

imo stick with what works for you, as there is a lot of disappointment out there ;)

Wow, I just reread my previous post and I have to apologize for the grammar. I must have been sleepy.

Anyway, I'll probably grab some more reduction but still want to try a different one.

[naturalguy]

So after reading all the negative news on what exactly is in AX formulation in SlimXtreme I will not be taking that product nor will I recommend anyone taking that product.

So my question is, what else do you guys recommend?

I have taking REDuction with nice effects but wanted to try something else out.

Have you tried the new Animal Cuts? It's an awesome formula. The new Animal Cuts formula is made up of eight distinct components: (1) thermogenic complex; (2) metabolic complex; (3) thyroid complex; (4) diuretic complex; (5) nootropiccomplex; (6) cortisol inhibiting complex; (7) CCK inhibiting complex; and (8) our special bioavailability complex.

[NismoRockstar]

Just bought Controlled Labs REDuction. Let's see how it goes. :)
I will post again to give my 2 cents, about the product.

[DNRCMO]

Have you tried the new Animal Cuts? It's an awesome formula. The new Animal Cuts formula is made up of eight distinct components: (1) thermogenic complex; (2) metabolic complex; (3) thyroid complex; (4) diuretic complex; (5) nootropiccomplex; (6) cortisol inhibiting complex; (7) CCK inhibiting complex; and (8) our special bioavailability complex.

Used the older formula and it worked awesome. Before next summer I will need to get my hands on a can of the new formula. Was really great stuff and I like that you can get rid of a pill should you decide you don't want that part for whatever reason!!!!

[AliEd786]

How's Lipo 6 guys? I've heard quite a bit about it and am thinking about taking it..would like to know from anyone here that has used it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Wow, I just reread my previous post and I have to apologize for the grammar. I must have been sleepy.

Anyway, I'll probably grab some more reduction but still want to try a different one.
no problem. glad to hear your decision

Just bought Controlled Labs REDuction. Let's see how it goes. :)
I will post again to give my 2 cents, about the product.

awesome, looking forward to your results

[Dacookie]

controlled labs is it not okay to use REDuction with any other CL products?

[vinhdiezel]

The new Animal Cuts formula will be what I'll be running for my next cut!

[rprince23]

I am new to the forum and was wondering if maybe someone could give me some tips on a sup that works. I have a problem though with products with alot of caff.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

controlled labs is it not okay to use REDuction with any other CL products?

you can use it with our other products. however if you have white flood or blue up (stim version) make sure to space them out by 4-5 hours from the REDuction AM tablets :)

[naturalguy]

Used the older formula and it worked awesome. Before next summer I will need to get my hands on a can of the new formula. Was really great stuff and I like that you can get rid of a pill should you decide you don't want that part for whatever reason!!!!


The new Animal Cuts formula will be what I'll be running for my next cut!

The new formula is awesome. Let us know your feedback.

[dh_biker]

im kinda disappointed they stopped making slim x. ive used 5 bottles (cycling of course) and the stuff is amazing. i think ppl just dont drink enough water or eat enough while on it and then get these side effects. i take 3 pills a day of it (2 is recommended) and its perfect. but oh well guess ill have to find something else out there.....bummer

[its_paul]

How's Lipo 6 guys? I've heard quite a bit about it and am thinking about taking it..would like to know from anyone here that has used it.

This stuff gave me headaches, and yes I did drink PLENTY of water while I was taking it.

[Bolo23]

im kinda disappointed they stopped making slim x. ive used 5 bottles (cycling of course) and the stuff is amazing. i think ppl just dont drink enough water or eat enough while on it and then get these side effects. i take 3 pills a day of it (2 is recommended) and its perfect. but oh well guess ill have to find something else out there.....bummer
3? dam!!!! i just started my bottle monday, 1 a day. no side affects for me. best fat burner i tried since xenadrine ephedra days.

[diamonddaveuk]

I'm 39 years old, 5' 9" or 5'10" tall, weigh about 79 Kg (175 lb or 12 1/2 stone), and am essentially ectomorphic (6 1/4" wrists, skinny forearms, narrow shoulders, etc) although I seem to have much more strength in my legs than in my upper body.

I did no exercise at all in the first 20 years after leaving school. Ironically though, I started reading things like Muscle & Fitness and Flex on & off when I was about 19 or 20. I was always too lazy to do any exercise though. I stayed very skinny until I was in my late 20s when I started to slowly put on the pounds, until I reached the 89 Kg (196 lb or 14 stone) I weighed 2 years ago.

I joined a gym in January of 2008. Since then, (according to a BMI chart) I've shifted from the high end of the "overweight" zone towards the low end. I've obviously still a long way to go though! Of course if I could wave a magic wand I'd have Arnold's body in 1973, Sergio's in 1969 (incredible!) or Ron Coleman's now, but I have exactly the opposite type of genetics to these guys & I'm far too old as well! I'll never be a "proper" bodybuilder but obviously I want to have as little fat and as much muscle as possible!

I train 3 times a week - about 45 minutes of cardio (treadmill, cycle & cross-trainer, or a spinning class) followed by about 90 minutes of leisurely weights/machines. I alternate between back/legs and arms/chest/shoulders/abs every time I go. I've put on a bit of muscle in the almost 2 years I've been training (although not so much that anyone's noticed apart from me!) and I've lost much of my belly, and I do look much thinner generally, especially noticeable in the face.

My diet is reasonable - never any junk food or cakes/sweets/biscuits or fried food etc, very little red meat, raw wholegrain oats with rice milk for breakfast, soup & a tuna salad sandwich for lunch most days, chicken or salmon or pasta in the evening. I do love pizza but they're normally small & only have veg & garlic as toppings. I do crave carbs most of the time though, and I know I eat too many carbs & not enough fruit & veg. Fruit wise it's normally blackberries/raspberries/apples/grapes or similar. I love tomatoes too and the odd glass of pure pink grapefruit juice. It's wholemeal bread at home, although during the week the local sandwich shop only has white.

For about 6 months I've been taking Maximuscle Promax Diet (a 215 calorie-per-serving whey protein shake) maybe 4 times a week, normally about an hour before I train (which is usually after work, in the evenings) plus occasionally on non-training days too. I quite like the taste, it mixes ok, and is designed for people like myself who want to prioritise fat loss over muscle gain. It contains the green tea, caffeine, etc that seem to be "de rigueur", and presumably is doing me no harm.

Other supplements that I take (every day) are Solgar VM-75 (a multivitamin/multimineral), 1000 mg of Solgar L-Lysine, and the following, all to combat "atypical" depression: 1000 ?g Solgar Chromium Picolinate, 1000 mg Dr. Tolonen's E-EPA (a vacuum distilled Omega 3 fatty acid that contains no DHA) and 500 mg of Doctor's Best D-Phenylalanine (1000 mg since 5 weeks ago). Conveniently, I've seen the last 3 occasionally listed as ingredients in different supplements that are supposed to promote fat loss/muscle gain, so they might well be helping my physical as well as mental health.

At the end of June I also bought a bottle of VPX Meltdown from this website, as it seemed to have one of the highest overall "out of 10" ratings (at the time) of any of the fat burners that were listed.

The first time I tried it, I took 2 capsules, but after that I always took 3 capsules (the recommended dose) just at the start of my training. The second time I took it, I reckoned I really felt something, like more energy or the cardio being easier. Generally though, the only consistent & reliable effects have been excess sweating (I sweat too much anyway due to taking 75 mg of Venlafaxine per day) and very mild nausea. The very slight nausea is probably in part due to working out hard, plus the high amount of caffeine in my system at the time (there's 126 mg from the Promax Diet plus what's in the Meltdown). I'm not a regular caffeine user anyway - I never drink tea or coffee, (although I have the occasional Diet Coke) so I'm not exactly used to it every day. I occasionally got very mild "shakes" as well. The sweating/nausea/shakes might often be accompanied by a feeling of being slightly wired or energised, but it might have just been wishful thinking or the placebo effect. Apart from that one time, I never felt "wow - my regular exertions feel easier 'cos of this stuff!".

I finished the bottle a few weeks ago, and I want to try something else, but I just can't decide between the bewildering array of alternatives that also have very high ratings.

Things like Purple Wraath, White Flood, VPX Liquid Clenbutrx Hardcore, etc all get rave reviews from dozens of people, but there's no guarantee that I'll get any positive benefit from any of them. I'm not wealthy, plus shipping to the UK isn't cheap, so I want to make the right choice with my next purchase.

What I'm hoping for is that someone out there will have been in a similar position to me (perhaps even with the same bodytype/metabolism etc) will have got the same effects from Meltdown as me, then will have tried something else that they found was fantastic. Other things being equal, if this other person is constructed in a similar way (biochemically/genetically or whatever) to me, then chances are that I'll also get good results from what works well for them! So if anyone out there having read all this says to themselves "wow - he's SO like me - he needs to start taking such-and-such straight away!" then please let me know!

Having said all that, part of me has a strong instinct to try something this time round that focuses on colon cleansing and generally clearing out internal toxins & other garbage as a way to lose weight. There seem to be a lot of products out there that take this approach, often using the Acai berry as a major ingredient (see effectivecleanse dot com for example). There's even a page on this website that takes a not-disimilar approach (search the site for "better_health_inside_first").

I'd also love to know if I should swap the Promax Diet for something superior (another diet protein or creatine shake perhaps?) and if there's an equivalent to it without the caffeine & other stimulants. That way I could take it of an evening when I'm at home, only an hour or 2 before bed, when I get hungry & crave carbs, as an alternative to eating more oats & milk - i.e. carbs!

I DO appreciate that the way to lose fat & build muscle is through a strict diet and hard, regular exercise, not merely supplements. That's the routine I've been on for almost 2 years now & it has paid dividends, but I'd love to be able to take a fat burning supplement that would help shed even more fat than the diet & exercise do alone.

Many thanks in advance for everyone's input.

[fkjr2]

Can someone tell me which current fat burner would offer the most appetite suppression?

thanks

[bjjbadboy]

just started my most recent cut..
last one was about two months ago before a death of a loved one which destroyed all my progress but went from around 14%bf to around9-10 felt really strong and lean. This was with great diet and running and body weight circuits and animal cuts. At first loved the animal cuts then hated it got the worst migranes for like two days stopped it for a day started up again with no problems, maybe just really dehidrated who knows..

Just picked up the new formula animal cuts and seems great.. intense energy and incredible appitate suppress. I still smoke pot when not full fledged training and get the worst muchies and this totally stops have to force a protein shake down

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Can someone tell me which current fat burner would offer the most appetite suppression?

thanks
REDuction works well in that department

[naturalguy]

Can someone tell me which current fat burner would offer the most appetite suppression?

thanks

The new version of Animal Cuts has a powerful CCK Inhibiting Complex which works very effectively as an appetite suppressor plus 7 other effective complexes that will help in all aspects of fat burning.

The new Animal Cuts is currently the #1 fat burner on bb.com:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ephfreetop.htm

[jar_lou]

I can tell you that I dont really see anything with the ripped fuel 5x... I wont be buying them again.

[AlphaBrass01]

I can tell you that I dont really see anything with the ripped fuel 5x... I wont be buying them again.
I actually had some decent results with that. I guess it takes different strokes for different folks.

[jar_lou]

ya, I am sure it is all based on body chemistry. I really dont have that much to lose. I think right now it is all the stubborn stuff that is just gonna take some really hard work to lose on my stomach, only place I have any fat left it seems.

[ryanwade]

Hey,

I was quite keen on trying reduction after reading lots of good things (ive got WF, PW and green mag - all great supps). But i noticed that i can't find anywhere in Australia to buy it.

Something in the ingredients not allowed here?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Hey,

I was quite keen on trying reduction after reading lots of good things (ive got WF, PW and green mag - all great supps). But i noticed that i can't find anywhere in Australia to buy it.

Something in the ingredients not allowed here?

the gnc stores down there sell an aussie version which is actually a powder. tablets/capsules are very hard to get into Australia legally in bulk amounts for stores

[ryanwade]

the gnc stores down there sell an aussie version which is actually a powder. tablets/capsules are very hard to get into Australia legally in bulk amounts for stores
Thanks for your reply. It's a shame it's only at GNC though - as in Australia they are by far the most expensive eg - PW for $135, where ANY online store will do it for less than $100.

I'm in a rush for work - but in simple terms whats the difference between AM and PM reduction ( i know if i searched i could find it lol)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Thanks for your reply. It's a shame it's only at GNC though - as in Australia they are by far the most expensive eg - PW for $135, where ANY online store will do it for less than $100.

I'm in a rush for work - but in simple terms whats the difference between AM and PM reduction ( i know if i searched i could find it lol)
they are for sale separately (am and pm) there so they may not cost to much, have a look

[smflorence]

Anyone who has taken VPX Meltdown ...

How did you dose it out? 3 pills first thing on an empty stomach or did you spread it out throughout the day?

Did you take it pre-WO?

What worked best for you?

Any feedback is helpful, thanks

[bjjbadboy]

the old animal cuts i had to force myself to eat now the new one I reallly do.. plus i like that you can take out the caffine and the water pills if you want now so you can stack it.

[dlv92]

I don't know much about it but I'v heard that "recreate" by usp labs is really good and safe its average price is 60 but you can get it at the vittamine shoppe for 40

[Ripnlean]

C-Bolic Combined with Phoenix.
Muscle Sparing goodness!:)

[isaacstaco]

currently taking cytoleanv2. not liking it. i gives me a little boost for my morning run, but thats about it. no appetite supression at all either. gonna try animal cuts next. hopefully i get better resultes.

[DNRCMO]

currently taking cytoleanv2. not liking it. i gives me a little boost for my morning run, but thats about it. no appetite supression at all either. gonna try animal cuts next. hopefully i get better resultes.

I loved the old animal cuts...and I hear the new stuff is even better. I will definately be purchasing early spring next year!!

[diamonddaveuk]

Anyone who has taken VPX Meltdown ...

How did you dose it out? 3 pills first thing on an empty stomach or did you spread it out throughout the day?

Did you take it pre-WO?

What worked best for you?

Any feedback is helpful, thanks

See my earlier (very long!) post - #3302.

[nastyimpulse89]

reduction am/pm or animal cut?

[ryanwade]

they are for sale separately (am and pm) there so they may not cost to much, have a look
They were $50 each.... So i ordered from bb.com, even with the exchange rate i end up over $60 better off!
Thanks again :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

reduction am/pm or animal cut?
REDuction is awesome, A real 24/7 fat burner with its am/pm approach

They were $50 each.... So i ordered from bb.com, even with the exchange rate i end up over $60 better off!
Thanks again :) including shipping and customs?

[ryanwade]

REDuction is awesome, A real 24/7 fat burner with its am/pm approach
including shipping and customs?
Well i have tried superpump and no explode and nothing worked as well as white flood so i swore to myself that im not wasting my money anymore on energy supps and instead only buying Controlled labs. My order was 2xWF, 1xIntrain, 2xreduction AM, and 2xreduction PM, orange triad, green mag as well.

So my savings kinda spread over the products but was around $100-$200, so shipping (to Aust) seemed a small price to pay when i think about it buying that bulk. But If i had of just bought reduction i would have only been better off by about $30.

[mohammed57]

Is it safe and would you recommend taking Reduction AM/PM and animal cut at the same time...for instance taking REDuction during night and morning and taking animal cut during the day?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well i have tried superpump and no explode and nothing worked as well as white flood so i swore to myself that im not wasting my money anymore on energy supps and instead only buying Controlled labs. My order was 2xWF, 1xIntrain, 2xreduction AM, and 2xreduction PM, orange triad, green mag as well.

So my savings kinda spread over the products but was around $100-$200, so shipping (to Aust) seemed a small price to pay when i think about it buying that bulk. But If i had of just bought reduction i would have only been better off by about $30.
WOW, thanks for the brand loyalty to CL. save those UPC codes and receipts for free CL products (check the link in my signature below for details)

Is it safe and would you recommend taking Reduction AM/PM and animal cut at the same time...for instance taking REDuction during night and morning and taking animal cut during the day?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

no, take one or the other.

[DNRCMO]

Is it safe and would you recommend taking Reduction AM/PM and animal cut at the same time...for instance taking REDuction during night and morning and taking animal cut during the day?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Definitely pick one!!! Tried animal cuts and liked it a lot. Waiting to try REDuction till closer to spring; and then I might try to order White and Intra. We'll see

[ryanwade]

WOW, thanks for the brand loyalty to CL. save those UPC codes and receipts for free CL products (check the link in my signature below for details)

Wow thanks for telling me that i had no idea, ive got 10 now. But ill wait for 15 i think, i take it shipping to Australia is fine?

[guinho]

Lipo 6 Black. Yohimbine lover =)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Definitely pick one!!! Tried animal cuts and liked it a lot. Waiting to try REDuction till closer to spring; and then I might try to order White and Intra. We'll see awesome stack, log that if possible


Wow thanks for telling me that i had no idea, ive got 10 now. But ill wait for 15 i think, i take it shipping to Australia is fine?

we always like to reward our loyal customers. yup, shipping is free worldwide :)

[scoops1515]

Lipo 6 worked the best

[Urbanterror]

currently taking cytoleanv2. not liking it. i gives me a little boost for my morning run, but thats about it. no appetite supression at all either. gonna try animal cuts next. hopefully i get better resultes.

yup, I feel like I wasted my money, hydroxycut hardcore x worked better for me but felt horrible...someone needs to sneak us kiwis some animal cuts :(

[High_Endurance]

could you use both of these products together?

Thermogenic Fat Burners & Cortisol Products

[mrpooh]

yup, I feel like I wasted my money, hydroxycut hardcore x worked better for me but felt horrible...someone needs to sneak us kiwis some animal cuts :(


Is Animal Cuts not legal here in NZ?
I live in NZ and am having a hard time finding the supps I used to get in the States...

I see it listed on the NZ supplement website here...



http://www.shotgunsupplements.co.nz/shop/Shop+By+Brand/Universal+%28+Animal+%29/Universal+Animal+Cuts+42+paks.html

[kokokrunch]

Does Lipo6 help me in burning my belly fats?

[guest]

I've been stacking Lean Xtreme
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/drivensports/leanxtreme.html

+

Dicana
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/di.html

Quite happy with the results!

[Metagoth_Slayer]

I loved MX-LS7 from iSatori.. it works well..

[finehaymakerday]

I am about 2-weeks into:

ANIMAL CUTS
by Universal

... and so far I really am seeing a big difference. It has everything from your basic thermogenics to cortisol and CCK inhibitors. I have noticed a big drop in water retention, probably an effect from teh diuretics also included in the stack. My vascularity and deffinition has increased substancially... I can't wait to see how much further I come with this stack.

The only down side is for people with weak stomaches. After taking the pill stack on an empty stomach you will feel a lot of "spicy heat" as if you just downed a habanero or something. If this happens, take it with a shake and you should be good!

[High_Endurance]

starting my animal cut tomorrow, hopefully i can lose the extra pounds i want in the next 3 weeks.

on a side note, there are a lot of pills

[awesomepirate]

I am currently on Mitotropin, I was in the US and called bb.com and a couple of guys said they had taken it and found it had the best results out of everything in the office. A few calls to some friends and it was held in pretty high esteem. Thought I'd take the plunge, why not. Could be a BB.com sale or something, maybe the guy was making extra dough by flogging Mito but who knows?! :D

Anyway, I use a few vendors and Gaspari is top of my respected list alongside the UK's Reflex who make great products too.

I can't comment much on the true effectiveness of Mitotropin because I am on day 5 of 30, but it seems to be quite an amazing product so far. I am already noticing results.

I find it strange that these threads are so populated by suppliers/their reps. Makes a lot of what is said in this threads a load of trash to be honest. Who gives a monkey what a supplier says about his product. I don't. This site is supposed to be an exchange between people who sweat their asses off in the gym and actually have tried products and give honest feedback.

Bandits!

[awesomepirate]

As for Animal Cuts, I bought that for my nephew a month or so ago. He made a BIG change with it. It was a little freaky! I was put off by all the pills but I may still go for it.

What attracts me is that it is a 21 day cycle and I can remove all stim pills. I am loving Mito, but some of the side effects at first are a little weird.

[DNRCMO]

As for Animal Cuts, I bought that for my nephew a month or so ago. He made a BIG change with it. It was a little freaky! I was put off by all the pills but I may still go for it.

What attracts me is that it is a 21 day cycle and I can remove all stim pills. I am loving Mito, but some of the side effects at first are a little weird.

I really enjoyed Animal Cuts...definately did what it was supposed to do. I am thinking about taking the new formula closer to spring next year. I really like that you can take pills out of the equation...makes it more custom!!

[awesomepirate]

I really enjoyed Animal Cuts...definately did what it was supposed to do. I am thinking about taking the new formula closer to spring next year. I really like that you can take pills out of the equation...makes it more custom!!Out of curiosity, how much did you lose? I am deffo going to cycle Mito with either Animal Cuts, Lean Xtreme or Cytolean V2, just don't know which one!

I have a wedding to go to over Christmas in Dubai, so 21 day Animal Cut cycle is perfect for me. And as we both agree, taking certain pills out is a BIG bonus. But I have heard that Lean Xtreme has no stim, no side effects and is pretty damn sexual.

[mystified]

man scorch looks good, no proprietary blend and good ingredients so you know exactly what you are getting. i'm thinking of taking man scorch and reduction pm, would that be a problem?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

man scorch looks good, no proprietary blend and good ingredients so you know exactly what you are getting. i'm thinking of taking man scorch and reduction pm, would that be a problem?

sounds fine. have you thought about the am/pm REDuction kit though?

[mystified]

sounds fine. have you thought about the am/pm REDuction kit though?

yeh, man scorch looks like it has a better profile and its buy 2 get 1 free at the moment. just got 2 purple wraath (first time taking), 3 orange triads and other stuff from fedex. brb working out.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

yeh, man scorch looks like it has a better profile and its buy 2 get 1 free at the moment. just got 2 purple wraath (first time taking), 3 orange triads and other stuff from fedex. brb working out.

both profiles are good. its only about 10 bucks more to buy the kit versus the PM alone ;)

[skip9]

Any Aussies out there order Reduction into the country or will customs grab it?

[mystified]

Any Aussies out there order Reduction into the country or will customs grab it?

im from australia, it will get in, even check out

ht tp://bbaus.pbworks.com/Supplements

[ryanwade]

Any Aussies out there order Reduction into the country or will customs grab it?
Yes will definitely get in through customs, ordered it on 3 separate occasions and no probs

[majormods]

just bought animal cuts, lets hope it works well!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Any Aussies out there order Reduction into the country or will customs grab it?
not sure, we do sell a special version of it (in a powder form) in Australia. have you seen it?

im from australia, it will get in, even check out

ht tp://bbaus.pbworks.com/Supplements


Yes will definitely get in through customs, ordered it on 3 separate occasions and no probs

interesting

[Brandon914]

im just curious guys, what pills would you remove from the new animal cuts stack? Im about to purchase it and just curious to why you would remove anything?

[resuman]

just bought animal cuts, lets hope it works well!

ditto, animal cuts on the way

[naturalguy]

im just curious guys, what pills would you remove from the new animal cuts stack? Im about to purchase it and just curious to why you would remove anything?

We understand the needs and lifestyles of bodybuilders, we always try to take this into account when we formulate a product.

Many bodybuilders take pre-workout formulas and/or other products containing stimulants. Taking too many stimulants can be counter productive. With that in mind we singled out the majority of the stims in a single red pill which is our Thermogenic Complex. Also some people train late at night and don't want to take a stimulant too late as it may affect their sleep.

There is also a Diuretic Complex in Animal Cuts and some people don't want to take diuretics daily so we identified them in 2 blue pills.

We designed the formula for ultimate flexibility and with the athlete in mind.

The new Animal Cuts formula is made up of eight distinct components : (1) thermogenic complex; (2) metabolic complex; (3) thyroid complex; (4) diuretic complex; (5) nootropiccomplex; (6) cortisol inhibiting complex; (7) CCK inhibiting complex; and (8) our special bioavailability complex. Clearly, Cuts is complete from top to bottom.

[isaacstaco]

does hydroxycut hardcore x have to be cycled? bought it on sale for only 25$ (120 pill) figured id give it a shot.

[Brandon914]

We understand the needs and lifestyles of bodybuilders, we always try to take this into account when we formulate a product.

Many bodybuilders take pre-workout formulas and/or other products containing stimulants. Taking too many stimulants can be counter productive. With that in mind we singled out the majority of the stims in a single red pill which is our Thermogenic Complex. Also some people train late at night and don't want to take a stimulant too late as it may affect their sleep.

There is also a Diuretic Complex in Animal Cuts and some people don't want to take diuretics daily so we identified them in 2 blue pills.

We designed the formula for ultimate flexibility and with the athlete in mind.

The new Animal Cuts formula is made up of eight distinct components : (1) thermogenic complex; (2) metabolic complex; (3) thyroid complex; (4) diuretic complex; (5) nootropiccomplex; (6) cortisol inhibiting complex; (7) CCK inhibiting complex; and (8) our special bioavailability complex. Clearly, Cuts is complete from top to bottom.



Well thank you for your response. Ill be purchasing animal cuts right now. Diuretic complex, sorry im unfamiliar with the word diuretic.

I plan on taking the thermogenic complex in the first pack of the day but not the second one so i can sleep.

[psmitty14]

kind of a newbie on products but taking No shotgun right now (love it) and was wanting to try out animal cuts, would i need to take any of the pills out for any reasons?

[Warzephyr]

Is there such thing as a healthy weight reducer/cutter?

I mean like i would like to try out that animal cuts stuff, but theres so many pills with it and i hear so many bad things about weight loss pills.

Could anyone recommend me a good, healthy cutter? I was considering taking Acai Force Max...anyone know anything about that? I hear its great and actually healthy

[Nivea]

SlimXtreme really is f*ckin extreme :D ..

This stuff is scary good. I hope it's not harmful to people's health though.. I surely won't be using it regularly or together with any product. CL Reduction is still my favorite for regular use. I recommend that one for people who don't need or want sleep/energy disturbance, but a normal and quiet effective weight loss product with supercool night pills too :D. SlimXtreme is to lose huge amounts or when Reduction gets stuck.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL... How about that? :D :D :D


"Consumers who may have purchased SLIM XTREME should immediately discontinue using the product and contact us at returns@anabolicx.com to receive further instruction"

ROFL I Can't believe it, I finally found something that worked extremely good and now its not for sale anymore. :D

I'll be using CL Reduction again. I hope it will still work after using something as powerful as SX.
At least It will be jitter free and with the perfect sleep. :D

But CL, you really got to do something against appetite like SX. (And again, why not add carnitrine?)

[Tial]

I want to try Animal Cuts...but how many pills do you need to consume in a day? Also how big are these pills?

[Brandon914]

yah see i want to buy animal cuts too but this whole taking pills thing out is worrying me cause how would the product work good if it you take them out?

[resuman]

I want to try Animal Cuts...but how many pills do you need to consume in a day? Also how big are these pills?


yah see i want to buy animal cuts too but this whole taking pills thing out is worrying me cause how would the product work good if it you take them out?

The pills are not that big, size of a regular fiber pill or similar. I don't take any of them out, the stim pill really isn't that strong and the diuretic only made me make 1 or 2 more bathrooms trips than i normally would

[3000RT]

Been taking Animal Cuts for a few days and heard people didnt like taking alot of pills. The pills are actually very small. If you take a Fish Oil it is actually smaller than all of those that I have seen.

[234]

Slim Xtreme.

Best fat loss/energy/happy pill ever.

[Kurt Hustle]

Just got my Animal Cuts in the mail today...had a couple of questions...

I wanna use this to help me burn some fat while doing my cardio/more energy while lifting. Is it 100% imperative to do the 2 packs a day ...one when waking up then another 4-6 hours later? I actually work out in between those 2 time periods and am wondering if I'm going to miss any extra energy provided by Cuts by taking it at those awkward times.

Anyone have any other suggestions or advice?

[B Con]

Just got my Animal Cuts in the mail today...had a couple of questions...

I wanna use this to help me burn some fat while doing my cardio/more energy while lifting. Is it 100% imperative to do the 2 packs a day ...one when waking up then another 4-6 hours later? I actually work out in between those 2 time periods and am wondering if I'm going to miss any extra energy provided by Cuts by taking it at those awkward times.

Anyone have any other suggestions or advice?

It's not necessary to take 2 packs a day but it seems most users report the best results when they do. Cuts will provide some extra energy as it does contain stims.

I would just time things up so things are working best with your schedule. What time are you taking the first dose? When do you workout? And when do you take your 2nd dose now?

Is there a reason you don't want to take 2 packs a day?

[Kurt Hustle]

It's not necessary to take 2 packs a day but it seems most users report the best results when they do. Cuts will provide some extra energy as it does contain stims.

I would just time things up so things are working best with your schedule. What time are you taking the first dose? When do you workout? And when do you take your 2nd dose now?

Is there a reason you don't want to take 2 packs a day?



I haven't taken any yet...this is my first time. I have no prob taking the 2 packs a day...I guess I didn't phrase it properly....I was hoping to use the stim energy during my workout / cardio.

For example say I wake at 9am....I don't work out until maybe 11-12 and then cardio right after around 1.....putting it right in between the timing of 1 pak at wake up...and another 4-6 hours later. Which I was assuming would miss any extra energy the stims would provide.

So would it be ok to say ...maybe take 1 pak like 15-30 mins before my workout...and then another 4-6 hours later midday? Or is it imperative that I get Cuts in my system upon waking....if that makes any sense. Thanks for the help.

[B Con]

I haven't taken any yet...this is my first time. I have no prob taking the 2 packs a day...I guess I didn't phrase it properly....I was hoping to use the stim energy during my workout / cardio.

For example say I wake at 9am....I don't work out until maybe 11-12 and then cardio right after around 1.....putting it right in between the timing of 1 pak at wake up...and another 4-6 hours later. Which I was assuming would miss any extra energy the stims would provide.

So would it be ok to say ...maybe take 1 pak like 15-30 mins before my workout...and then another 4-6 hours later midday? Or is it imperative that I get Cuts in my system upon waking....if that makes any sense. Thanks for the help.

Two options I see if you want to maximize using 2 packs:

If you take Cuts upon waking at 9 AM you would be fine to take your 2nd pack before your cardio at 1 PM

OR

Take Cuts 15-30 min pre workout and the 2nd pack 4-6 hours later my friend.

Both would work... just remember to keep on track with your diet/training/cardio and keep dedicated. Best of luck.

[Kurt Hustle]

OR

Take Cuts 15-30 min pre workout and the 2nd pack 4-6 hours later my friend.

Both would work... just remember to keep on track with your diet/training/cardio and keep dedicated. Best of luck.

Now this works for me...perfect...thanks.

[Lowporkwa]

can you still drink coffee and pre-workout supps (White Flood) which have caffeine in them while on Animal Cuts?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

can you still drink coffee and pre-workout supps (White Flood) which have caffeine in them while on Animal Cuts?

switch to a fat burner that is stims only once per day (REDuction) or remove the stim pills from at least one pack

[tmf2004]

I've been reading on this thread and it seems like Animal Cuts have the majority vote here. With that being said is there a difference in lets say Animal Cuts, Slim xtreme, Reduction, and others? Does Animal Cuts have the right blend of ingredients to actually work? I'm looking for something that is going to work and so far I'm leaning towards Animal Cuts..

thanks

Tony

[guest]

About to finish my can of Animal Cuts. Not bad at all, actually. This year I've tried:

Mitotropin.
Did a decent job, but not great. Definitely better than the majority of the burners out there - but not the best I've tried. Also seems to change my odor when I sweat (not in a good way, either). Might try it again in the future.

Dicana stacked with Lean Xtreme.
Probably got the best results from this, as BF% dropped the most while I was stacking this.

Animal Cuts.
Seem to have lost the most weight from this, but BF% loss was not as good as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme stack. Hard to say if it was as good (was not better) - but since none of these should be taken continually - it's an awesome way to switch up the supps. But, if price is a consideration - you can't go wrong here.

REDuction.
Can't really give it a fair assessment, as my diet wasn't as clean when I was using it. But, the sleep was great :D
I really should try this one again with a clean diet...because I have a feeling it might be worth it. Also felt good when I was using it, so maybe in a few weeks I'll try it again?

[tmf2004]

About to finish my can of Animal Cuts. Not bad at all, actually. This year I've tried:

Mitotropin.
Did a decent job, but not great. Definitely better than the majority of the burners out there - but not the best I've tried. Also seems to change my odor when I sweat (not in a good way, either). Might try it again in the future.

Dicana stacked with Lean Xtreme.
Probably got the best results from this, as BF% dropped the most while I was stacking this.

Animal Cuts.
Seem to have lost the most weight from this, but BF% loss was not as good as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme stack. Hard to say if it was as good (was not better) - but since none of these should be taken continually - it's an awesome way to switch up the supps. But, if price is a consideration - you can't go wrong here.

REDuction.
Can't really give it a fair assessment, as my diet wasn't as clean when I was using it. But, the sleep was great :D
I really should try this one again with a clean diet...because I have a feeling it might be worth it. Also felt good when I was using it, so maybe in a few weeks I'll try it again?


Thanks for the reply.. I was actually thinking of taking the Cytolean V2 but i will give animal cuts a try with a stricter diet. Thats probably my main downfall is the diet. I work weekend nights so it gets messed up for 3 days and than try to eat clean during the week.. I can afford to lose some BF.. Its been down hill since thanksgiving LOL..

Hey Thanks again

[naturalguy]

can you still drink coffee and pre-workout supps (White Flood) which have caffeine in them while on Animal Cuts?

The great thing about Animal Cuts is it's the only fat burner that gives you the option to leave out the Thermogenic Complex (red pill) which contains the majority of the stims. If you are going to take a pre workout product around the time you take your Animal Cuts, just leave out the red pill. Animal Cuts is not reliant on stimulants like other formulas, it's still very effective without them.


I've been reading on this thread and it seems like Animal Cuts have the majority vote here. With that being said is there a difference in lets say Animal Cuts, Slim xtreme, Reduction, and others? Does Animal Cuts have the right blend of ingredients to actually work? I'm looking for something that is going to work and so far I'm leaning towards Animal Cuts..

thanks

Tony

Animal Cuts is unlike any other formula on the market. The new Animal Cuts formula is made up of eight distinct components: (1) thermogenic complex; (2) metabolic complex; (3) thyroid complex; (4) diuretic complex; (5) nootropiccomplex; (6) cortisol inhibiting complex; (7) CCK inhibiting complex; and (8) our special bioavailability complex. Clearly, Cuts is complete from top to bottom.

Since we reformulated it Animal Cuts has become the # 1 fat burner here on BB.com:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ephfreetop.htm

[CONTROLLED LABS]

REDuction.
Can't really give it a fair assessment, as my diet wasn't as clean when I was using it. But, the sleep was great :D
I really should try this one again with a clean diet...because I have a feeling it might be worth it. Also felt good when I was using it, so maybe in a few weeks I'll try it again?
give it another shot, its a very unique product, nothing else like it on the market

I've been reading on this thread and it seems like Animal Cuts have the majority vote here. With that being said is there a difference in lets say Animal Cuts, Slim xtreme, Reduction, and others? Does Animal Cuts have the right blend of ingredients to actually work? I'm looking for something that is going to work and so far I'm leaning towards Animal Cuts..

thanks

Tony
REDuction is a true 24/7 fat burner with the separate bottles for AM and PM, check it out

[EatenByAlgae]

What would be an ideal fat burner to take if i am a very active person?

I snowboard 2+ times a week, train MMA 2-4 times a week... am on my feet at work running around 8 hours a day?

im thinking something between Animal Cuts or REDuction

EDIT- i might be doing a cut to drop weight classes... if that makes a difference

[xStevenx]

Allmax Nutrition just came out with a drink form of Rapidcuts Hardcore. The Rapidcuts Detonation sticks.

It hits you instantly after drinking it. Being a liquid (after mixing the drink stick with water) it is absorbed so quickly. Literally moments after finishing the drink you are wired. Its great, no waiting for anything to kick in! Awesome Thermo effect as well.

Write up:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119944561

hit me up with any questions

[CONTROLLED LABS]

What would be an ideal fat burner to take if i am a very active person?

I snowboard 2+ times a week, train MMA 2-4 times a week... am on my feet at work running around 8 hours a day?

im thinking something between Animal Cuts or REDuction

EDIT- i might be doing a cut to drop weight classes... if that makes a difference

REDuction would def be a solid choice. the PM pills make it a very unique proposition :)

[naturalguy]

What would be an ideal fat burner to take if i am a very active person?

I snowboard 2+ times a week, train MMA 2-4 times a week... am on my feet at work running around 8 hours a day?

im thinking something between Animal Cuts or REDuction

EDIT- i might be doing a cut to drop weight classes... if that makes a difference

If you need to make weight Animal Cuts Diuretic Complex can really help, the complex is identified by 2 blue pills so you have the option to leave it out if you want and/or take it a couple of days in a row before you need to weigh in.

We formulated it with consumer options in mind, you can also leave out the majority of the stims (in the red pill). No other formula offers this option.

[2ndcupfreak]

Allmax Nutrition just came out with a drink form of Rapidcuts Hardcore. The Rapidcuts Detonation sticks.

It hits you instantly after drinking it. Being a liquid (after mixing the drink stick with water) it is absorbed so quickly. Literally moments after finishing the drink you are wired. Its great, no waiting for anything to kick in! Awesome Thermo effect as well.

hit me up with any questions

I don't know about anyone else, but I tried Mpower from Rivalus and its pretty friggen sweet. You feel the effects pretty quick and it lasts a long time. Took off 10lb in 3 weeks.... !!

[naturalguy]

FYI........FREE samples of Animal Cuts is now available (for a limited time) at www.universalnutrition.com

(click on sample request)

[Fit_4Life]

I used Ripped Freak during my contest prep for my first 2 bodybuilding shows and it really worked well for me.
Things I liked about it:
- only 1 pill per day (2 is the max recommended but this was enough for me)
- my energy and strength significantly increased even though I was on extremely low carbs
- helped me lose fat and keep muscle on through my strict diet
- I felt good on this fat burner

[EatenByAlgae]

I started Animal Cuts...

Wow this stuff works great. My appettite has been really under control, and ive had so much energy. yesterday i was at the gym and did an 8 pound cut for the fun of it... i had that much energy

i know it was mostly water... but the important thing is the way i am motivated on this stuff

[sinochemical]

I started Animal Cuts...

Wow this stuff works great. My appettite has been really under control, and ive had so much energy. yesterday i was at the gym and did an 8 pound cut for the fun of it... i had that much energy

i know it was mostly water... but the important thing is the way i am motivated on this stuff

I am wanting to take a try on VPX Meltdown.

Is there anybody know something about the ingredients MTTA (Methyl Tetradecylthioacetic Acid)? CAS #, or some other information. Thank you in advance.

[KevinJDahl]

i'm currently taking animal cuts and it works rather well. for me it hits my stomach kinda hard but i have lost weigh using it

[NFL_Hopeful]

I just started a month of REDuction AM/PM. I'll see how it goes.

[tinstargeneral]

far burners are a waist of money... people who buy fat burners don't know how the body works...

[NFL_Hopeful]

The best part about these REDuction pills are the pleasant raspberry smell and aftertaste!

[naturalguy]

I started Animal Cuts...

Wow this stuff works great. My appettite has been really under control, and ive had so much energy. yesterday i was at the gym and did an 8 pound cut for the fun of it... i had that much energy

i know it was mostly water... but the important thing is the way i am motivated on this stuff

Glad to hear Animal Cuts is working for you


i'm currently taking animal cuts and it works rather well. for me it hits my stomach kinda hard but i have lost weigh using it

It does work great. What do you mean it hits your stomach hard?

[TrainXtreme]

When preparing for a contest... Will using a CLA with animal cuts be more effective than taking animal cuts by itself?

Also if i take 1 pak of cuts 4 hrs before and another pak again 4 hrs after consuming white flood, would it be alright to take the red pill in both packs?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just started a month of REDuction AM/PM. I'll see how it goes.
awesome, smart move. how are you taking them timing wise? what is your fat burner history?

The best part about these REDuction pills are the pleasant raspberry smell and aftertaste!

yup, those are the raspberry ketones :D

[guest]

give it another shot, its a very unique product, nothing else like it on the market

REDuction is a true 24/7 fat burner with the separate bottles for AM and PM, check it out

I just purchased some. I will post back to let you (and everyone else) know how it compares with the other ones I mentioned in my prior post. I know results are an individual thing, but I think this supp category is a little different than the others...and it's pretty easy for people to get discouraged.

FYI:
I also purchased some Orange Triad (hopeful), and I currently use (and have been using) White Flood and Purple Intrain (I mix it with Xtend)...so I do have a high opinion of CL products.

[thebeast110]

Has anyone tried Dialene 4 made by Scivation? I have heard good things about it before but just want to know if its worth trying. https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gifhttp://shop.liveleantoday.com/media/images/a1102.jpg

I just finished using this product.... it was alright in my opinion. I think there are better fatburners on the market personally.

[HamMach1]

How many pills are in a Animal Cuts pack?

[rsk721]

9 pills per packet, twice a day.

18 pills a day sounds bad, but as long as you dont mind taking pills they aren't too bad. Pretty good size pills though.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just purchased some. I will post back to let you (and everyone else) know how it compares with the other ones I mentioned in my prior post. I know results are an individual thing, but I think this supp category is a little different than the others...and it's pretty easy for people to get discouraged.

FYI:
I also purchased some Orange Triad (hopeful), and I currently use (and have been using) White Flood and Purple Intrain (I mix it with Xtend)...so I do have a high opinion of CL products.

awesome, looking forward to your REDuction feedback :)

thanks for your loyalty to CL, please check the link in my signature below for our customer loyalty program where you can get free gear/supps :)

[pintado]

my work starts at 8pm and ends at 5am. i workout after 5am. what is the best time to take animal cuts? would it still be effective if i take it when i wake up at 5pm and then 4 hours after?

[Tial]

I will be taking animal cuts this time around. But my question is i start work at 6AM and end around 3 or 4pm. So when is it the best time to take the Supps?

[bly3]

with animal cuts do I need to still take CLA and L-Carnitine? If not, is there anything I should take other than the normal protein shake. Would a multi vitamin be overkill?

Also, I wake up at 5:45. Work 7-5 and lift 5:30. I assume take one as soon as I get to work and the other around 4?

Thanks

[Nivea]

Whatsup with that 9 pill animal cuts?
lol, I got scared when I saw that huge pill package and even more scared when it started to burn my stomach. But I'm still alive :p and I've noticed it's working when I took 2 packages a day. Not much (in the eveing) when I take just 1 package.

The appetite supressing is not as great as slimxtreme used to be, but it helps (when you don't miss the second package.)

And no jittery/ancious/sleepkilling feelings present. So thats a big +

I've just started fitness, so I'll see how the real burning goes.

[C-40]

I've been using CL Reduction AM/PM for about year and I went from 220 lbs. (Jan/2009) to starting 2010 at 200 lbs. What I liked was the ease of use (2-upon waking 30 minutes before breakfast 2 before bed). Prior to this, as a a point of referrence, I used Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, Hydroxycut, and VPX Meltdown. Reduction gave me engergy without the jitters I experienced with other fat burners. When I cycle off, 2-3 weeks, I still use the PM to give me some great sleep. It's a permanent staple in my cabinet. Much props to Controlled Labs for a solid product!!!

[kmontalbano]

Just finished Animal Cuts. Seems to work well. I could really tell the difference in how hungry I am when I don't take it. Will do them again.

[Lowporkwa]

9 pills per packet, twice a day.

18 pills a day sounds bad, but as long as you dont mind taking pills they aren't too bad. Pretty good size pills though.

I just swallow em all at once. Tiny pills IMO!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've been using CL Reduction AM/PM for about year and I went from 220 lbs. (Jan/2009) to starting 2010 at 200 lbs. What I liked was the ease of use (2-upon waking 30 minutes before breakfast 2 before bed). Prior to this, as a a point of referrence, I used Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, Hydroxycut, and VPX Meltdown. Reduction gave me engergy without the jitters I experienced with other fat burners. When I cycle off, 2-3 weeks, I still use the PM to give me some great sleep. It's a permanent staple in my cabinet. Much props to Controlled Labs for a solid product!!!

awesome, it is a VERY unique product, the AM and PM bottles make REDuction a very effective as a true 24/7 fat burner

[doluseb]

Anyone have any suggestions on a pure stimulant?
Lookin less for a fat burner and more of a long lasting euphoric stimulant.

[termi]

hey guys i need some help with this question... if i take MuscleTech Hydroxycut Hardcore X and keep up my 5000-6000 cal's in food will i lose weight very fast? because i just wanna keep weight but lose bodyfat !

most appreciated :)

[mat82284]

Hey guys, I have been hearing good things about Reduction and Animal Cuts. I am a full time student and I started going to the gym in Summer, but had to stop. I recently just got back into going and I'm trying to loose my belly fat "aka beer belly" I dont drink so i didnt get it from beer lol. I was trying to decide what would be the best product to help me loose my belly and work on my 6 pack. I just started running and noticed that my stamina is not up to par. I like the Reduction idea because of the AM Pm pill, but would Animal cuts be an over kill for me? I plan on doing some basic workouts along with my cardio as well.

What would you suggest?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Hey guys, I have been hearing good things about Reduction and Animal Cuts. I am a full time student and I started going to the gym in Summer, but had to stop. I recently just got back into going and I'm trying to loose my belly fat "aka beer belly" I dont drink so i didnt get it from beer lol. I was trying to decide what would be the best product to help me loose my belly and work on my 6 pack. I just started running and noticed that my stamina is not up to par. I like the Reduction idea because of the AM Pm pill, but would Animal cuts be an over kill for me? I plan on doing some basic workouts along with my cardio as well.

What would you suggest?

REDuction is very unique with the am/pm, give it a shot.

[adamsmith83]

i have Fat Burner by Weider brand it will help me alot for reducing my fat and reduce weight

[grenmoyo]

OxyElite Pro is my choice be a long shot. :)

[slpyne]

Has anybody heard about the fat burner the Kardashians are endorsing? I think it's just a thermogenic but I'm very skeptical considering it is being endorsed by the Kardashians and I haven't heard about it before. My fiancee wants to try it but I was hoping to get some advice before she does. Below are the label facts. It's called Quick Trim Extreme Burn. Thanks for any help.

Vitamin C 250.00 mg 417%
Niacin 20.00 mg 100%
Chromium (as Chromium Picolinate) 200.00 mcg 167%


QT Capsimax® Super Thermo Complex 225.00 mg **
Bioperine® (black pepper extract) **
Caffeine Anhydrous (200 mg) **
Capsimax® Capsicum Fruit Extract **
Metabromine® (Standardized for Theobromine and Caffeine) **

Super C3G Lipolytic Complex 145.00 mg **
Blueberry **
Grape **
Raspberry **
Cherry **
Blackberry **
pomegranate **
acai fruit extract (Euterpe oleracea) **
Trans-resveratrol (Polygonum cuspidatum Root Extract) **
Maqui Fruit **
Raspberry Ketones 75.00 mg **

Extreme Fatloss Catalyst Complex 207.00 mg ** N-acetyl-L-tyrosine **
Gymnema sylvestre leaf and Gymnema sylvestre leaf extract (25% gymnemic acids) **
Green Tea Leaf Extract (Providing 90 mg EGCG 150 mg Catechins) **
Sensoril® Ashwagandha Root & Leaf Extract (Standardized for 8% Withanolides 32% Oligosaccharides 2% Withaferin-A) **
Cinnamon Bark Extract (2% MHCP) **
Banaba Leaf Extract (1% Corosolic Acid) **
Sclariolide 95% (Salvia sclarea Leaf Extract) **
White Willow Bark Extract (Standardized for 25% Salicin) **

[Lift Till I Die]

What are your guys' thoughts on Cytolean and Mitotropin? im trying to get some quick and good results before spring break in about a month in a half. i have a good routine set up with a proper diet and cardio plan. let me know if you guys have any info!!

[Crabb651]

What are your guys' thoughts on Cytolean and Mitotropin? im trying to get some quick and good results before spring break in about a month in a half. i have a good routine set up with a proper diet and cardio plan. let me know if you guys have any info!!

I bump this guys question. I would also like to know if Mitotropin is still the top fat burner on the market?

[idmakeulooksick]

I bump this guys question. I would also like to know if Mitotropin is still the top fat burner on the market?

Ive always liked cytolean, and the Mitotropin when used together

Its not clenbutorol, but OTC its pretty solid.

[guest]

About to finish my can of Animal Cuts. Not bad at all, actually. This year I've tried:

Mitotropin.
Did a decent job, but not great. Definitely better than the majority of the burners out there - but not the best I've tried. Also seems to change my odor when I sweat (not in a good way, either). Might try it again in the future.

Dicana stacked with Lean Xtreme.
Probably got the best results from this, as BF% dropped the most while I was stacking this.

Animal Cuts.
Seem to have lost the most weight from this, but BF% loss was not as good as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme stack. Hard to say if it was as good (was not better) - but since none of these should be taken continually - it's an awesome way to switch up the supps. But, if price is a consideration - you can't go wrong here.

REDuction.
Can't really give it a fair assessment, as my diet wasn't as clean when I was using it. But, the sleep was great :D
I really should try this one again with a clean diet...because I have a feeling it might be worth it. Also felt good when I was using it, so maybe in a few weeks I'll try it again?


give it another shot, its a very unique product, nothing else like it on the market



I just purchased some. I will post back to let you (and everyone else) know how it compares with the other ones I mentioned in my prior post. I know results are an individual thing, but I think this supp category is a little different than the others...and it's pretty easy for people to get discouraged.

FYI:
I also purchased some Orange Triad (hopeful), and I currently use (and have been using) White Flood and Purple Intrain (I mix it with Xtend)...so I do have a high opinion of CL products.


awesome, looking forward to your REDuction feedback :)

thanks for your loyalty to CL, please check the link in my signature below for our customer loyalty program where you can get free gear/supps :)

Ask, and ye shall receive...

I was a lot more strict this time around on RED. Weight loss not as dramatic as Animal Cuts, and BF% drop not as great as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme combo. But, I did see a reasonable drop in both. But, there is another intangible: It's so easy to take, and the mood elevation + sleep is soooo nice! It's pretty much worth it for those aspects alone. I almost think of the weight/fat loss as a side effect! I drift anywhere between the high 8's to just under 11% BF, so I'm not expecting a huge loss. So, the other factors will make this something that I go back to with some regularity (but, I do tend to cycle through products that work in different ways).

Next up...ordered some of the Cellucor stuff. I'll see how that stacks up. It sure as hell won't win on price! ($140 for the D4 TC + T7 :eek: )

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Ask, and ye shall receive...

I was a lot more strict this time around on RED. Weight loss not as dramatic as Animal Cuts, and BF% drop not as great as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme combo. But, I did see a reasonable drop in both. But, there is another intangible: It's so easy to take, and the mood elevation + sleep is soooo nice! It's pretty much worth it for those aspects alone. I almost think of the weight/fat loss as a side effect! I drift anywhere between the high 8's to just under 11% BF, so I'm not expecting a huge loss. So, the other factors will make this something that I go back to with some regularity (but, I do tend to cycle through products that work in different ways).

Next up...ordered some of the Cellucor stuff. I'll see how that stacks up. It sure as hell won't win on price! ($140 for the D4 TC + T7 :eek: )
WOW, glad you had such amazing things to say about REDuction, the value is also insane :eek:

[Lift Till I Die]

Anyone try oxyelite pro yet by USPlabs? I've been hearing nothing but good things about it.

[elterrible987]

Could someone tell me if REDuction has Diuretics in it?

Im not familiar with all the supplements so I cant tell just by looking at the ingredients.
I dont want any diuretic effects as Im not competing or anything and just looking to loose body fat as a fitness goal so Im not concerned about water retention and I already try to avoid excess sodium in my diet.

Im interested in REDuction because people here are giving it good reviews and I am sensitive to stimulants so I like that it has a PM component with it and that a serving size is 2 pills so I can try 1 pill for the AM component at first and see how I react to its stimulant effects first.


* I guess I should clarified by saying I mean to ask if it has additional diuretic ingredients beyond the stimulants (Caffeine and Synephrine) which I already know are diuretics themselves.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Could someone tell me if REDuction has Diuretics in it?

Im not familiar with all the supplements so I cant tell just by looking at the ingredients.
I dont want any diuretic effects as Im not competing or anything and just looking to loose body fat as a fitness goal so Im not concerned about water retention and I already try to avoid excess sodium in my diet.

Im interested in REDuction because people here are giving it good reviews and I am sensitive to stimulants so I like that it has a PM component with it and that a serving size is 2 pills so I can try 1 pill for the AM component at first and see how I react to its stimulant effects first.


* I guess I should clarified by saying I mean to ask if it has additional diuretic ingredients beyond the stimulants (Caffeine and Synephrine) which I already know are diuretics themselves.
it has small amounts of minor diuretics, but nothing like diuretics used for a show

[Invictus_Nth]

I'm on a medication that causes weight gain, so I've been really tempted to take a fat burner. I'm hesitant to take something that will upset my stomach (I have GI issues, so I have to be very careful) and/or will make me super jittery. I already take White Flood to boost my energy pre-workout,.

Any reccos? Does anyone on here have GI problems and currently take a FB that doesn't screw up their stomach? Or do y'all think its a bad idea?

Any help is appreciated.

[shinna202]

can someone tell me more about the Dicana stacked with Lean Xtreme?

How much of each dose do I take?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/di.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/drivensports/leanxtreme.html

Are those the two I need?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm on a medication that causes weight gain, so I've been really tempted to take a fat burner. I'm hesitant to take something that will upset my stomach (I have GI issues, so I have to be very careful) and/or will make me super jittery. I already take White Flood to boost my energy pre-workout,.

Any reccos? Does anyone on here have GI problems and currently take a FB that doesn't screw up their stomach? Or do y'all think its a bad idea?

Any help is appreciated.
you want a no stim or once daily stim product if you are taking white flood. have you looked into REDuction?

[guest]

can someone tell me more about the Dicana stacked with Lean Xtreme?

How much of each dose do I take?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/di.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/drivensports/leanxtreme.html

Are those the two I need?

This is how I typically use it:
3 of each/day.
I generally take 1 Lean Xtreme upon waking, and then about an hour later when I finally eat I take 1 Dicana. A few hours later, I take another Lean Xtreme, and a couple hours after that I take another Dicana. A few hours later, I do the same. So, I basically spread them out throughout the day.

Whether that's recommended or not, I have no idea - but It's what I had good luck with.

[98zman]

What is the benefit of just taking reduction PM as to both AM/PM? It sounds like the benefit of just PM will possibly be better sleep! Wouldn't you need both AM and PM in order to get full benefit of the product?

[Invictus_Nth]

you want a no stim or once daily stim product if you are taking white flood. have you looked into REDuction?


it has small amounts of minor diuretics, but nothing like diuretics used for a show


I've been using CL Reduction AM/PM for about year and I went from 220 lbs. (Jan/2009) to starting 2010 at 200 lbs. What I liked was the ease of use (2-upon waking 30 minutes before breakfast 2 before bed). Prior to this, as a a point of referrence, I used Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, Hydroxycut, and VPX Meltdown. Reduction gave me engergy without the jitters I experienced with other fat burners. When I cycle off, 2-3 weeks, I still use the PM to give me some great sleep. It's a permanent staple in my cabinet. Much props to Controlled Labs for a solid product!!!

Based on the feedback here, I think I will give RED a try when I order more WF this week. I guess my only other question is whether anyone on RED has experienced any sort of GI irritation? I have to be careful with that, and dont want a constantly upset stomach or deal with running to the BR every five minutes. Cuz so far, I'm definitely interested in giving it a go.

[shinna202]

This is how I typically use it:
3 of each/day.
I generally take 1 Lean Xtreme upon waking, and then about an hour later when I finally eat I take 1 Dicana. A few hours later, I take another Lean Xtreme, and a couple hours after that I take another Dicana. A few hours later, I do the same. So, I basically spread them out throughout the day.

Whether that's recommended or not, I have no idea - but It's what I had good luck with.

Is it ok to take 1 Lean Xtream and 1 Dicana, both pills before breakfast, lunch and dinner? 3 times a day or do each pill have to be taken on separate times? Is this basically like EC stack?

[anabolict]

fat loss stack. i lost a lot of bf on a cut with this. on sale till tomorrow

http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/fat-loss-stack.html

[CONTROLLED LABS]

What is the benefit of just taking reduction PM as to both AM/PM? It sounds like the benefit of just PM will possibly be better sleep! Wouldn't you need both AM and PM in order to get full benefit of the product?
ideally you would use both. we sell the pm separate as well for when cycling off of the AM portion.

Based on the feedback here, I think I will give RED a try when I order more WF this week. I guess my only other question is whether anyone on RED has experienced any sort of GI irritation? I have to be careful with that, and dont want a constantly upset stomach or deal with running to the BR every five minutes. Cuz so far, I'm definitely interested in giving it a go.

sounds good. havent heard of any GI issues :)

[D_Grundman]

So it's not too much to be taking White Flood while REDuction am/pm?

[inkman411]

So this is my first post but I've been lurking on this thread for awhile ...I just picked up REDuction and started using it yesterday and so far im impressed i definitely have extra energy @ the gym especially during my cardio im still on one pill but going to up the dose to two tomorrow...I was going to try animal cuts but figured i'd give this a try plus the price is right..I'll post up my results when the bottles are empty

[CONTROLLED LABS]

So it's not too much to be taking White Flood while REDuction am/pm?
nope, as long as you space the am tabs and the white flood dose at least 4-5 hours apart, you are fine

So this is my first post but I've been lurking on this thread for awhile ...I just picked up REDuction and started using it yesterday and so far im impressed i definitely have extra energy @ the gym especially during my cardio im still on one pill but going to up the dose to two tomorrow...I was going to try animal cuts but figured i'd give this a try plus the price is right..I'll post up my results when the bottles are empty

awesome to hear, thanks for the feedback on REDuction.

how was your PM tab dose?

[FL_Z32]

30mg Adderall a day ftw

[ninjawolf]

does REDuction help with suppressing your hunger? I can't control my eating habit. and i know diet is 80 percent of losing weight. i tried hydroxycut hardcore. but thats too crazy for me. and i tried lip 6x but i dont feel anything from it. so i'm wondering if i should tried REDuction. thanks

[CONTROLLED LABS]

does REDuction help with suppressing your hunger? I can't control my eating habit. and i know diet is 80 percent of losing weight. i tried hydroxycut hardcore. but thats too crazy for me. and i tried lip 6x but i dont feel anything from it. so i'm wondering if i should tried REDuction. thanks

absolutely, both the am and pm tabs have a hunger reduction complex.

[naturalguy]

How many pills are in a Animal Cuts pack?

9 small caps


9 pills per packet, twice a day.

18 pills a day sounds bad, but as long as you dont mind taking pills they aren't too bad. Pretty good size pills though.

^^^


my work starts at 8pm and ends at 5am. i workout after 5am. what is the best time to take animal cuts? would it still be effective if i take it when i wake up at 5pm and then 4 hours after?

That would work fine. 1 pack first thing in the a.m. and a 2nd pack 4-6 hours later.


I will be taking animal cuts this time around. But my question is i start work at 6AM and end around 3 or 4pm. So when is it the best time to take the Supps?

1 pack first thing in the a.m. and a 2nd pack 4-6 hours later.


with animal cuts do I need to still take CLA and L-Carnitine? If not, is there anything I should take other than the normal protein shake. Would a multi vitamin be overkill?

Also, I wake up at 5:45. Work 7-5 and lift 5:30. I assume take one as soon as I get to work and the other around 4?

Thanks

You should take a multi. You can continue to take CLA and Carnitine if you like


Whatsup with that 9 pill animal cuts?
lol, I got scared when I saw that huge pill package and even more scared when it started to burn my stomach. But I'm still alive :p and I've noticed it's working when I took 2 packages a day. Not much (in the eveing) when I take just 1 package.

The appetite supressing is not as great as slimxtreme used to be, but it helps (when you don't miss the second package.)

And no jittery/ancious/sleepkilling feelings present. So thats a big +

I've just started fitness, so I'll see how the real burning goes.

Glad to hear you like it so far.


Just finished Animal Cuts. Seems to work well. I could really tell the difference in how hungry I am when I don't take it. Will do them again.

The CCK boosting complex really helps crush appetite.

[MikeDC82]

Trying the new UPSlabs Oxyelite and also using the REDuction PMs as well.

I've used REDuction AM/PM before with good results

[wheee]

I just chanced upon bb.com and this is a really great site. Got me started pretty serious on my workout. Thinking of ordering Hydroxycut Hardcore X and REDuction PM. Would it be okay stack them? Hydroxy in the morning, maybe before workout as well and REDuction before i go to bed.

edit: If I were to take PrimaForce Lean Green as well, where do I fit it in-between the other 2 supplements?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Trying the new UPSlabs Oxyelite and also using the REDuction PMs as well.

I've used REDuction AM/PM before with good results
sounds good. would love to hear your comparison of the two

I just chanced upon bb.com and this is a really great site. Got me started pretty serious on my workout. Thinking of ordering Hydroxycut Hardcore X and REDuction PM. Would it be okay stack them? Hydroxy in the morning, maybe before workout as well and REDuction before i go to bed.

edit: If I were to take PrimaForce Lean Green as well, where do I fit it in-between the other 2 supplements?

that should be fine. did you consider the full REDuction am/pm kit at all?

[pollock88]

i was looking into taking lipo 6x or animal cuts any suggestions

[i6or]

Could I stack Hydroxycut hardcore and REDuction AM/PM at the same time?

In the past I took Hydroxycut by itself and that shed about 20-30pounds. I got injured, stoped lifting that caused me to stop lifting, gained all the weight back Now I want to cut since I'm about 260-6'2" and no muscle anymore.

I was also wondering if I should also take creatine while doing this? or any other type of products.

Thanks in advance.

[wheee]

that should be fine. did you consider the full REDuction am/pm kit at all?

yep. did consider the am/pm kit. But wasn't planning to stack the REDuction am with hydroxy. e.g. 1st month REDuction am/pm. 2nd month hydroxy in the morning, then REDuction pm at night.

i figured switching between different products will keep my body from getting too used to a single product and hence build up immunity against it. wouldn't like that to happen :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Could I stack Hydroxycut hardcore and REDuction AM/PM at the same time?

In the past I took Hydroxycut by itself and that shed about 20-30pounds. I got injured, stoped lifting that caused me to stop lifting, gained all the weight back Now I want to cut since I'm about 260-6'2" and no muscle anymore.

I was also wondering if I should also take creatine while doing this? or any other type of products.

Thanks in advance.
no. either take that with reduction pm, or just get the reduction set.

yep. did consider the am/pm kit. But wasn't planning to stack the REDuction am with hydroxy. e.g. 1st month REDuction am/pm. 2nd month hydroxy in the morning, then REDuction pm at night.

i figured switching between different products will keep my body from getting too used to a single product and hence build up immunity against it. wouldn't like that to happen :)
interesting, let us know how it works out for you

[Nivea]

Just orderer Reduction once again, because I need something thats not too hard on the body. It helped me lose a few kg the last time. Atm I'll take anything that doesnt touch my sleeping.

Animal cuts is still great, but my sleeping patterns have been ruined since slimxtreme, so I haven't been able to take it the continuously yet.


Quick summary of all fat burners I took untill now:

Lipo6x : Worked great for a month, lost quiet some fat, had some good appetite suppressing. The next month it didnt do much anymore, except jittering me like hell. (- ±4Kg)
Hydroxycut Hardcore : Lost some weight, but made me feel uncomfortable (- ±2kg)
CL Reduction : Lost weight only the first week, but at least it kept my weight stable for the rest of the month. (- ±1.5Kg)
Slimxtreme : Lost some extreme weight, but also my sleeping patterns and I've been walking like a zombie/with minimal energy since I havent been taking it (- ±7kg)
Animcal Cuts : Works great when you take 2 packs a day (which is about a billion pills :p).

I also took some pure cartnitrine+creatine before I tried any of these, and that combo also worked very nicely. (some local brand)

[jgahlawat]

I am trying Animal Cuts and it is giving me great results. Now i want to try REDuction AM/PM for a more cut look. Any suggestions regarding the gap in between both of these fat burners?

[Invictus_Nth]

nope, as long as you space the am tabs and the white flood dose at least 4-5 hours apart, you are fine



so when is the best time to take the AM pill? first thing in the morning? right before a AM workout? cuz i plan on stacking it with WF and the AM/PM complex.

i run in the AM and lift at night. should i not take WF before running since I will now be taking the AM pill? and should i take the AM pill before running to get that burst of energy i normally get from WF? so as follows:

morning run: take AM only (or can i take both WF AND the AM pill in the morning?)
15 - 20 min before lifting in evening: WF
prep for sleep: PM

any suggestions on it would be great - thanks.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just orderer Reduction once again, because I need something thats not too hard on the body. It helped me lose a few kg the last time. Atm I'll take anything that doesnt touch my sleeping.

Animal cuts is still great, but my sleeping patterns have been ruined since slimxtreme, so I haven't been able to take it the continuously yet.


Quick summary of all fat burners I took untill now:

Lipo6x : Worked great for a month, lost quiet some fat, had some good appetite suppressing. The next month it didnt do much anymore, except jittering me like hell. (- ±4Kg)
Hydroxycut Hardcore : Lost some weight, but made me feel uncomfortable (- ±2kg)
CL Reduction : Lost weight only the first week, but at least it kept my weight stable for the rest of the month. (- ±1.5Kg)
Slimxtreme : Lost some extreme weight, but also my sleeping patterns and I've been walking like a zombie/with minimal energy since I havent been taking it (- ±7kg)
Animcal Cuts : Works great when you take 2 packs a day (which is about a billion pills :p).

I also took some pure cartnitrine+creatine before I tried any of these, and that combo also worked very nicely. (some local brand)
awesome to hear reduction has worked so well for you :)

I am trying Animal Cuts and it is giving me great results. Now i want to try REDuction AM/PM for a more cut look. Any suggestions regarding the gap in between both of these fat burners?
if you have only been on stims for 30 days then you can run a box of REDuction before cycling off

so when is the best time to take the AM pill? first thing in the morning? right before a AM workout? cuz i plan on stacking it with WF and the AM/PM complex.

i run in the AM and lift at night. should i not take WF before running since I will now be taking the AM pill? and should i take the AM pill before running to get that burst of energy i normally get from WF? so as follows:

morning run: take AM only (or can i take both WF AND the AM pill in the morning?)
15 - 20 min before lifting in evening: WF
prep for sleep: PM

any suggestions on it would be great - thanks.

am pill before breakfast if possible. if you are working out in the morning and taking white flood before the workout. then move the am tabs to before lunch.

since you lift at night, take the am tabs before breakfast and the white flood before lifting (assuming lifting isnt too close to bed time)

[cashbox]

How can I stack theese products for 2 months ?

1.Gaspari Nutrition Mitotropin
2.NOW 7-KETO DHEA
3.Syntrax Guggulbolic
4.USP Labs OxyElite Pro

Is it okay :
1st month : Mitotropin + Guggulbolic
2nd month : OxyElite Pro + 7-KETO DHEA

and all the time Acetyl L-Carnitine, because my %BF is 25 and I need to drop it a lot in 2 months.

Or is it better to use Lipo 6 Black insted of Mitotropin ? Could I need to add Controlled Labs REDuction PM for optimal results ?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

How can I stack theese products for 2 months ?

1.Gaspari Nutrition Mitotropin
2.NOW 7-KETO DHEA
3.Syntrax Guggulbolic
4.USP Labs OxyElite Pro

Is it okay :
1st month : Mitotropin + Guggulbolic
2nd month : OxyElite Pro + 7-KETO DHEA

and all the time Acetyl L-Carnitine, because my %BF is 25 and I need to drop it a lot in 2 months.

Or is it better to use Lipo 6 Black insted of Mitotropin ? Could I need to add Controlled Labs REDuction PM for optimal results ?

REDuction PM would stack well with any/all of those :)

[MrKnowItAll]

Interesting

[inkman411]

how was your PM tab dose?

The PM pills work excellent. I thought they were a sleeping pill but they actually make you have deeper sleep.(less tossing and turning)



does REDuction help with suppressing your hunger? I can't control my eating habit. and i know diet is 80 percent of losing weight. i tried hydroxycut hardcore. but thats too crazy for me. and i tried lip 6x but i dont feel anything from it. so i'm wondering if i should tried REDuction. thanks

I can only speak for myself but i don't think there's any miracle supplement that can make you control your eating habits if you work out and are hungry after its your choice to go to a fast food chain or eat something healthier. Just don't try and stop all at once slowly eat better try eating something lean and high in protein for dinner with a tall glass of water for starters.

[ninjawolf]

^thanks. Hydroxycut really help me with my eating. It made me feel so full all the time. but Hydroxycut also made me feel like i'm about to die... so i stop it! but i did lost 7 pound in 1 week. which was very unhealthy.


So i just got my REDuction in. I'm going to start it tomorrow after this Superbowl PARTY!!! eating fest!! lol

So how clean of a diet i need to be, when i'm on REDuction?

[Nivea]

awesome to hear reduction has worked so well for you :)

Would be perfect if it had any appetite supressing at all.

Animal cuts I think is the best product at the moment. It has been the most gentle on my sleeping after Reduction. Its pretty much side effect free like Reduction. But it has appetite supression, which makes it the better choice (if your health/sleeping hasnt been ruined by slimxtreme)

I'll be using reduction untill I get my sleeping patterns totally fixed or animal cuts and reduction pm.

[cashbox]

How can I stack theese products for 2 months ?

1.Gaspari Nutrition Mitotropin
2.NOW 7-KETO DHEA
3.Syntrax Guggulbolic
4.USP Labs OxyElite Pro

Is it okay :
1st month : Mitotropin + Guggulbolic
2nd month : OxyElite Pro + 7-KETO DHEA

and all the time Acetyl L-Carnitine, because my %BF is 25 and I need to drop it a lot in 2 months.

Or is it better to use Lipo 6 Black insted of Mitotropin ? Could I need to add Controlled Labs REDuction PM for optimal results ?

Can you help me with organizing my supplements :

Mitotropin(or Lipo 6 Black which is better?),Guggulbolic,OxyElite Pro,7-KETO DHEA

1st month which one is better to take and which one is better to take in the second month ?

[guest]

Is it ok to take 1 Lean Xtream and 1 Dicana, both pills before breakfast, lunch and dinner? 3 times a day or do each pill have to be taken on separate times? Is this basically like EC stack?

No - nothing like an EC stack in any way.

I space them out because I space out anything I take this way. I don't know if taking it your way would be just as good, because I've never tried it. Keep in mind; it's just something I found works - and there really isn't specified directions. It's two products by two different companies, so you may find it works better taking them the way you're suggesting - or you may not.

[spoonierme]

Could Animal Cut be combined with REDuction PM?

[naturalguy]

Could Animal Cut be combined with REDuction PM?

I don't see why not but Animal Cuts is very effective on it's own

[Cyrus317]

Animal Cuts,

Tried Animal Cuts once about 3 years back when my "cut" phase consisted of a lot of cardio following some weights in the gym. The result was that the diuretic made me appear like skeletor. My face looked gaunt, and the belly fat I had just looked shrivelled, with no real loss of fat. I also noticed a LOT of cramping on week 3, most likely because it was summer and I was getting nowhere near the water I should have been.

I'm now doing a different routine for cutting (I was definitely over training now), and think I want to try animal cuts again... Just a few questions, for the guys that know their ****, please...

1: I'm military now, and I wasn't before- Piss tests are often. Anything strange in Animal Cuts that's going to make me look like I'm doing anything I shouldn't? This is constantly a concern with supplements.

2: Caffeine: As per typical supplements, Animal Cuts doesn't list the amount of ingredient per dosing. I'm extremely sensitive to changes in caffeine. I'm more concerned, however, on the blowback afterwards. I get cripppling headaches if I don't ramp down, and they last a week. Anyone have any better info on the mg per dosage, since you're taking 2 packs a day? I don't want to get up above that 500 mg range/ day if I can help it. Thanks!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Could Animal Cut be combined with REDuction PM?

sure thing. REDuction PM stack well with almost every fat burner (including REDuction AM ;) ) :)

[naturalguy]

Animal Cuts,

Tried Animal Cuts once about 3 years back when my "cut" phase consisted of a lot of cardio following some weights in the gym. The result was that the diuretic made me appear like skeletor. My face looked gaunt, and the belly fat I had just looked shrivelled, with no real loss of fat. I also noticed a LOT of cramping on week 3, most likely because it was summer and I was getting nowhere near the water I should have been.

I'm now doing a different routine for cutting (I was definitely over training now), and think I want to try animal cuts again... Just a few questions, for the guys that know their ****, please...

1: I'm military now, and I wasn't before- Piss tests are often. Anything strange in Animal Cuts that's going to make me look like I'm doing anything I shouldn't? This is constantly a concern with supplements.

2: Caffeine: As per typical supplements, Animal Cuts doesn't list the amount of ingredient per dosing. I'm extremely sensitive to changes in caffeine. I'm more concerned, however, on the blowback afterwards. I get cripppling headaches if I don't ramp down, and they last a week. Anyone have any better info on the mg per dosage, since you're taking 2 packs a day? I don't want to get up above that 500 mg range/ day if I can help it. Thanks!

FYI..........Animal Cuts has been completely reformulated from 3 years ago:

http://www.animalpak.com/html/sections.cfm?ID=10

There is nothing in Cuts that should be banned by the military although it would behoove you to check with them.

Each pack of Cuts has about 2 cups of coffee worth of caffeine. What is great about the new formula is that you have the option of leaving out the red pill which has the majority of the caffeine if you like. Also the diuretic complex is in the blue pills so you have the option to leave those out as well.

Let me know if you need anything else.

[bumbaklat]

My buddies take it and they love it, but have no idea what it is...not that i do but can anyone tell me something that may be better than that?? I cant take it cause it messes up my stomach big time!!! Like burnin bathroom sessions...no fun! Is that a bad sign by the way??

[ka3s3r]

i want to loose all body fat.. whats then best and fatest that will help me

[freeballer209]

i want to loose all body fat.. whats then best and fatest that will help me

cardio. good diet. lift weights.


pls go

[brandon12345]

I am very interested in taking a fat burner, I am trying to get in better shape for the summer. I have never taken a fat burner before, and I have been doing some cardio and trying to keep a clean diet. Is there any side effects to fat burners? After reading some reviews I am going to try animal cuts. I also just got about 3/4 of a bottle of mitotropin from a friend. Is there anything to be concerned with, or rules to follow(like drinking alot of water...etc) while taking either of these products. Sorry for all the questions, I have just always been skeptical of products like these affecting my overall health. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[AlphaBrass01]

I am very interested in taking a fat burner, I am trying to get in better shape for the summer. I have never taken a fat burner before, and I have been doing some cardio and trying to keep a clean diet. Is there any side effects to fat burners? After reading some reviews I am going to try animal cuts. I also just got about 3/4 of a bottle of mitotropin from a friend. Is there anything to be concerned with, or rules to follow(like drinking alot of water...etc) while taking either of these products. Sorry for all the questions, I have just always been skeptical of products like these affecting my overall health. Thanks in advance for the advice.
I think the most important thing is to be sure to follow the dosing instructions as listed on the packaging. There seem to be an inordinate amount of questions in this thread and others that ask "how/when/how much of" with regards to various supplements when most of those questions can be answered by reading the box/bottle. It's good that you asked about water. I think with many supps, some of the negative side effects are definitely caused or worsened by not drinking enough. This can be especially true of products with stimulants (like a lot of fat burners). Definitely drink AT LEAST a gallon a day. Other than that, just be smart (don't overdo stims, etc.), remember that training and diet do most of the work (it seems like you're already working on that), and don't forget to listen to YOUR body - everybody reacts differently to supplements. What worked for someone else may not work for you, and vice versa.

Good luck!

[psyvision]

Could Animal Cut be combined with REDuction PM?

i actually just ordered both, and they'll be the only thing i'm taking (besides protein) during a cut. might post a supplement log when i get them.

[naturalguy]

i actually just ordered both, and they'll be the only thing i'm taking (besides protein) during a cut. might post a supplement log when i get them.

If you do let me know, I will follow

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i actually just ordered both, and they'll be the only thing i'm taking (besides protein) during a cut. might post a supplement log when i get them.

a log would be awesome

[DJake]

Anybody try John Scott's Nitro fat burning supplements?

I'm about 225, down from 248 a few months ago. I've lost 10 pounds in the last 3 weeks from working out and dieting, but was thinking of incorporating these pills to keep me motivated and looking better. I currently start with a meal replacement shake in the morning with L-Glutamine; a granola bar or something as a snack, a couple sandwiches for lunch, a whey protein shake before my workout, a protein shake with l-glutamine after my workout, dinner, and casein/l-gutamine before I go to bed. Does this sound pretty good? It seems to be working so far.

Also, are any of these supplements bad for the stomach? I don't see anything that warns against it but thought maybe you guys had some good answers. Thanks!

One more thing; I have difficulty swallowing pills due to a small esophagus, is it okay to take apart the capsules? I dont' see anything saying not to, and I also don't see anything saying it's a time-release system.

[brandon12345]

I think the most important thing is to be sure to follow the dosing instructions as listed on the packaging. There seem to be an inordinate amount of questions in this thread and others that ask "how/when/how much of" with regards to various supplements when most of those questions can be answered by reading the box/bottle. It's good that you asked about water. I think with many supps, some of the negative side effects are definitely caused or worsened by not drinking enough. This can be especially true of products with stimulants (like a lot of fat burners). Definitely drink AT LEAST a gallon a day. Other than that, just be smart (don't overdo stims, etc.), remember that training and diet do most of the work (it seems like you're already working on that), and don't forget to listen to YOUR body - everybody reacts differently to supplements. What worked for someone else may not work for you, and vice versa.

Good luck!

thanks and repped.

[Defenbach]

So I've been reading up on these forums as well as using my own experience with products as a tool and I think I'm going to try this build:

-Animal Cuts
-NO Xplode / Apex Max Protein / Pain Killers(before workout)
-CL Green Mag (after workout/before bed)

I was reading on this forum about people stacking hydroxycut and REDuction PM.

Would it be smart to stack Animal Cuts and REDuction PM or just use Animal Cuts?

Fat loss is my primary concern. Muscle gain is secondary. I workout 6 days a week and have a 4-day cycle and do 2-2.5 miles of cardio except on leg days.

I've taken NO Xplode and Apex for awhile and have had a great experience with them so I'm definitely sticking with those products. I also took ephedra when it was legal and lost 26lbs. Since that is no longer an option I need a good substitute. I've taken CellMass in the past and didn't enjoy it at all.

Any thoughts/concerns/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[brandon12345]

if i take the animal cuts and romove the pills that contain caffeine, will that affect my weight loss significantly.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

So I've been reading up on these forums as well as using my own experience with products as a tool and I think I'm going to try this build:

-Animal Cuts
-NO Xplode / Apex Max Protein / Pain Killers(before workout)
-CL Green Mag (after workout/before bed)

I was reading on this forum about people stacking hydroxycut and REDuction PM.

Would it be smart to stack Animal Cuts and REDuction PM or just use Animal Cuts?

Fat loss is my primary concern. Muscle gain is secondary. I workout 6 days a week and have a 4-day cycle and do 2-2.5 miles of cardio except on leg days.

I've taken NO Xplode and Apex for awhile and have had a great experience with them so I'm definitely sticking with those products. I also took ephedra when it was legal and lost 26lbs. Since that is no longer an option I need a good substitute. I've taken CellMass in the past and didn't enjoy it at all.

Any thoughts/concerns/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

yes, REDuction PM will stack well with either of them

[98zman]

I've been very interested in taking a fat burner more lately. I have a "pretty good" diet, drink 1+ gallon of water per day and take a great CL stack (ot,gm,gg,pw,bg,protein,fish oil). I'm around 5'8 and fluctuate between 155-160lbs lately. I want to shed off some fat around my lower abdomen region which i've been having trouble doing with diet, weights/cardio without losing muscle. Any recommendations on a fat burner that will help me lose some fat without making me lose a ton of weight or lose any muscle?

[HCO390]

Ripped fuel. Not quite to hardcore but will help you shed 5 lbs for defenition

[kathelle]

Hi, I have my first competition for best body in April and I 'm really confused and would like to maximize my workouts and build lean muscle and burn fat.

I was told to take Jack3d before my workout...this is very strong. Then I was advised Prototype 216 for amino acids and bcaa's. Are these ok to take together with a fat burner for a woman? There is so much information and supplements and it's very confusing.

Pre Workout:
Jack3d
Prototype 216
Ripped Freak - fat burner - is this good or hydroxy cut?
Glutamine

Post Workout:
Sytha 6
Vitamin E
Glutamine

I would love some advice!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've been very interested in taking a fat burner more lately. I have a "pretty good" diet, drink 1+ gallon of water per day and take a great CL stack (ot,gm,gg,pw,bg,protein,fish oil). I'm around 5'8 and fluctuate between 155-160lbs lately. I want to shed off some fat around my lower abdomen region which i've been having trouble doing with diet, weights/cardio without losing muscle. Any recommendations on a fat burner that will help me lose some fat without making me lose a ton of weight or lose any muscle?

REDuction will go very nicely with that stack you have above :)

[psyvision]

i actually just ordered both, and they'll be the only thing i'm taking (besides protein) during a cut. might post a supplement log when i get them.

my package came (Fast!) edit: check the supplement logs section!

[theories]

I've been using Animal Cuts for a few weeks now. The only other "fat burner" I've ever taken was the ECA stack, and I have a lot of experience with that, so I'll compare the two. Also, I only take 1 packet of pills a day instead of 2. I take all the pills, no separating them.

- Animal Cuts stimulant effect is awesome. I can feel it kick in and it gives me a boost without overwhelming me. It's like a Goldilocks thing - not too powerful, not too weak. Much better than ECA. With ECA it was like jitter overload and I felt like a wreck ALL day. It also made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to sleep, even when my body became more "used" to the ECA near the end of a cycle. When I take Animal Cuts I can still get a night's sleep. I suspect that I would have more trouble with it if I took two packets a day, but I only ever took ECA in the mornings and NEVER twice a day either, so one batch of Animal Cuts in the morning is still a superior effect to one batch of ECA in the morning.

- Animal Cuts' appetite reduction is negligent. This is in direct contrast to ECA, which reduced my appetite to 0. That's okay, though, because I don't have a big problem with overeating.

- Animal Cuts has a laxative effect on me. Does anyone else experience that? Shortly after I take it I have to "go" badly. I don't mind, I just don't want to overstimulate that particular system of my body.

- Not sure if it is actually burning any fat, but as a supplement (not the pillar of your fat burning, but a SUPPORT for your diet/exercise routine) it's excellent. I'd definitely repurchase just for the nice, balancing energy boost.

[guest]

Hi, I have my first competition for best body in April and I 'm really confused and would like to maximize my workouts and build lean muscle and burn fat.

I was told to take Jack3d before my workout...this is very strong. Then I was advised Prototype 216 for amino acids and bcaa's. Are these ok to take together with a fat burner for a woman? There is so much information and supplements and it's very confusing.

Pre Workout:
Jack3d
Prototype 216
Ripped Freak - fat burner - is this good or hydroxy cut?
Glutamine

Post Workout:
Sytha 6
Vitamin E
Glutamine

I would love some advice!

Not sure you want to be taking Jack3d and Ripped Freak together (I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there are stims in the Ripped Freak). Also, not a huge fan of Proto 216 for your BCAA's...Xtend or Purple Wraath is probably a better choice. Animal Nitro if you prefer to get your amino's in pill form (I don't).

What exactly are you looking for in a burner (since this is the burner thread)? Energy? Non-stim burning? Advice would depend a lot on what you would prefer.

On a side note: The Syntha 6 and Jack3d are pretty decent products.

[onestyles]

Another of the former Slim Xtreme fanatics here.. I've heard about a new Stimulant X coming out and thinking about giving it a shot when I find it. Anyone tried it with opinions on how it compares to Slim Xtreme? Thinking about giving it a run with Green Bulge Blue Up and Reduction PM. Any ideas if it's recommended to stack Lean FX with this new Stimulant X like it was before?

[thebeast110]

I don't know much about it but I'v heard that "recreate" by usp labs is really good and safe its average price is 60 but you can get it at the vittamine shoppe for 40
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PkKM_1i7LmDFZM:http://www.bodyinfluence.com/img/p/631-710-large.jpghttps://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

I've had decent results with this actually, i was sort of surprised. I didn't expect much results wise from it. Not the best product on the market for fat burning, but isn't bad for the price.

[Kurt Hustle]

Hey all I've also asked this question in the "Overall NO Product" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[Colossal Spoons]

Hey all I've also asked this question in the "Overall NO Product" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

A-Cuts stacks with A-Pump so I'd assume it would be fine with any other pre-workout supplement. If anything, I'd just be careful to space them out so that you're not taking your fat burner and pre-WO supp too close together..

[MikeDC82]

On my first bottle of OxyElite Pro

Great energy so far with no jitters at all

Also stacking with REDuction PM, will post results after cycle

[Kurt Hustle]

A-Cuts stacks with A-Pump so I'd assume it would be fine with any other pre-workout supplement. If anything, I'd just be careful to space them out so that you're not taking your fat burner and pre-WO supp too close together..

Thats what I'm concerned with ....I was going to take my Animal Cuts along WITH the White Flood before going to the gym as I do my lifting then immead. followed by cardio. So taking the White Flood along with my first pack of Cuts probably wouldn't be a good idea?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Another of the former Slim Xtreme fanatics here.. I've heard about a new Stimulant X coming out and thinking about giving it a shot when I find it. Anyone tried it with opinions on how it compares to Slim Xtreme? Thinking about giving it a run with Green Bulge Blue Up and Reduction PM. Any ideas if it's recommended to stack Lean FX with this new Stimulant X like it was before?
just make sure to get the blue up stim free

Hey all I've also asked this question in the "Overall NO Product" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
sure, just take the stims out of the cuts pack you use close to white flood.

On my first bottle of OxyElite Pro

Great energy so far with no jitters at all

Also stacking with REDuction PM, will post results after cycle
awesome, REDuction PM stacks well with almost every other fat loss product on the market

Thats what I'm concerned with ....I was going to take my Animal Cuts along WITH the White Flood before going to the gym as I do my lifting then immead. followed by cardio. So taking the White Flood along with my first pack of Cuts probably wouldn't be a good idea?

see above

[bly3]

Thats what I'm concerned with ....I was going to take my Animal Cuts along WITH the White Flood before going to the gym as I do my lifting then immead. followed by cardio. So taking the White Flood along with my first pack of Cuts probably wouldn't be a good idea?

Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.

I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).

[mhcrouch]

Hey all I've also asked this question in the "Overall NO Product" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Have you tried Dark Rage by MHP? It has NO and stims in it, and the stims are powerful.

[naturalguy]

Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.

I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).

When we formulated Animal Cuts we took into account that most lifters take a pre-workout supplement with stims in it, so it made sense to have the stims optional. We did this with Pump and M-Stak also. It's a great option and no other products offer it.

[Totfit]

I-Force's TT-33. I actually had to cut it short because I lost too much weight. I just could not consume the calories needed to maintain my weight!! PLUS I make good $$ selling it in my shop!!! Nice to "rep" products you truly use!!!

JJ

[Kurt Hustle]

When we formulated Animal Cuts we took into account that most lifters take a pre-workout supplement with stims in it, so it made sense to have the stims optional. We did this with Pump and M-Stak also. It's a great option and no other products offer it.

So just take the red pill out of the cuts and I should be fine taking them both at the same time? Thanks for all the help guys.

[naturalguy]

So just take the red pill out of the cuts and I should be fine taking them both at the same time? Thanks for all the help guys.

Yes sir

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.

I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).

awesome, how are you liking the white flood?

[Colossal Spoons]

I just started taking Animal Cuts and I've got a question about water intake. I'm downing a gallon a day. I was wondering if drinking that much water would retard the effects of the diuretics in A-cuts?

[Dibatista]

I just started taking Animal Cuts and I've got a question about water intake. I'm downing a gallon a day. I was wondering if drinking that much water would retard the effects of the diuretics in A-cuts?

Sort of off topic on your question (sorry, I don't know the answer... I know others will though)... but what have been your thoughts/experience of it so far? Thinking about trying it. Thanks
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[Colossal Spoons]

I've been on it for about 5 days and lost a solid pound, wasn't looking for anything radical. I will say this though, it doesn't put me in a crabby mood like the EC stack did. I'm sure I'll have more to report after I'm on it for a while longer.

[Defenbach]

I'm taking:
Animal Pak & Cuts
NO Xplode
Prolab Creatine
REDuction PM

Would it be smart to take a half dose of creatine along with the REDuction PM before I go to sleep?

[eyenstein]

I have to say iSatori MX-LS7 was the most effective burner for me. I was 215 now 172lbs from clean diet and 3-4 days Circuit lifting/2 days cardio and help from supps like these

I've tried these since ephedra ban:
Atrophex (over priced, hyped, just meh, pee'd alot)
Lipo 6 black (just didn't do it for me)
Lean System 7 (good)
MX-LS7 (fav)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (got Cancer in my femur a month later, yes seriously and I'm still wondering if there is a link since they reformulated it in the past year. Also made me feel like chit)
Ripped Fuel Extreme (ok)

I think its high EGCG, Caff., Coleus Forskoli (Forlean) and Gugg. in MX-LS7 that does it.

Need to try OxyElite or Cuts next but that chit's expensive, rather spend $$ on Protein and Torrent and maybe a case of Endorush or Xenergy.

[slappzilla]

I'm currently on a strict low carb low fat diet, eating only low fat meats (lean turkey, turkey bacon, chicken breasts, baked fish, shrimp, egg whites, chicken sausage, etc) and I've lost 21 lbs in 3 weeks on said diet, but now I seem to have hit a wall, so to say. I weight train 4 times a week as well. Looking to throw a fat burner into the mix. Is Animal cuts the way to go now a days? Was looking at the BB.com store and it's rankings, saw animal cuts as the best ranked fat burner. Years back when I was at my leanest, I took Hydroxycut, and while it seemed to help keep me cut, it also made me jittery and a lot of times I felt like chit when on it. I have to assume that now a days there's a better fat burner out there.

What else besides Animal cuts should I look into, or should I not even look in another direction?

[Manny_TEC]

Its been 2 1/2 months on my journey...First two weeks was all mental preparation, as opposed to just eating 2 big meals a day I am now eating smaller portions and 5x a day keeping my calorie count below 2,000..... 2 months into it went from 266 to 228 with no supplements whatsoever, to me that is an accomplishment in itself

Now im on here looking for some advice on what supplements to boost my fat burning and definition... I am 5'10 and 228 lbs looking to go down to at least 195.....I am leaning towards the Animal Pak and have done some research

My question is:

Is the Animal Pak a good starter and if so what can I take along with it or should that be enough?

please I need some advice and guidance

I was also looking into the P90x workout routine any info

[joshy22]

Hey
Just wanted to let you know I am using oxyelite pro and in my experience it doesn't work. I am almost through a full bottle, it gives minor energy boost and no fat loss that I can notice. My diet is ok and I expected to lose a few pounds based on the rave reviews. I think most positive reviews are either having placebo effects or are being paid by USP Labs. I have taken many different fatburners and never had so little results. If I were you I would take the cuts. The first formulation was good so this should be great!

I have to say iSatori MX-LS7 was the most effective burner for me. I was 215 now 172lbs from clean diet and 3-4 days Circuit lifting/2 days cardio and help from supps like these

I've tried these since ephedra ban:
Atrophex (over priced, hyped, just meh, pee'd alot)
Lipo 6 black (just didn't do it for me)
Lean System 7 (good)
MX-LS7 (fav)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (got Cancer in my femur a month later, yes seriously and I'm still wondering if there is a link since they reformulated it in the past year. Also made me feel like chit)
Ripped Fuel Extreme (ok)

I think its high EGCG, Caff., Coleus Forskoli (Forlean) and Gugg. in MX-LS7 that does it.

Need to try OxyElite or Cuts next but that chit's expensive, rather spend $$ on Protein and Torrent and maybe a case of Endorush or Xenergy.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm taking:
Animal Pak & Cuts
NO Xplode
Prolab Creatine
REDuction PM

Would it be smart to take a half dose of creatine along with the REDuction PM before I go to sleep?
for sure, that is fine. let us know how you like REDuction PM