Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[pbuza]

Can women take Animal Cuts?

[naturalguy]

Can women take Animal Cuts?

Yes

[rkh38]

I just started Ripped Fuel by Twin Labs. Haven't noticed any issues as of yet. Has anyone tried this one?

[Justin23454]

can you take EC with Animal Cuts?

[naturalguy]

can you take EC with Animal Cuts?

I wouldn't recommend it, too many stimulants

[Justin23454]

so whats better EC or Animal cuts.

[naturalguy]

so whats better EC or Animal cuts.

Ephedra is a banned substance so Animal Cuts would be a better choice.

[stevejuice]

But how can you get it (legally)?

go to the store and buy it

[TSPKENNETH]

i just bought my gf the REDuction pills. Is it ok for her to only take one am pill a day instead of the recommended two?

[majormods]

i just bought my gf the REDuction pills. Is it ok for her to only take one am pill a day instead of the recommended two?

it says on the bottle to start w/ 1 to see ur body's tolerance... so clearly, YES is the answer.

[StillWorkin]

Just started Dicana.. Log link in sig

[arshah]

taken lipo 6 and hydroxcut. lipo 6 was a waste, hyrdoxcut was a lil better, looking to try animal cuts or reduction. anyone have thoughts on dren by mhp

[briankoke]

I've been on a cut for the last 11 days using only Lipo 6x, Orange Triad, ON protein, and fish oil. So far I've lost 10 pounds. I had negative results with Reduction but, I have to admit my diet is in check and was not when I took Reduction.

I may try Reduction again but, I'm not a fan of the PM pill. Sometimes I know i'm only going to get 5 or less hours of sleep and it's hard enough to wake up as it is. I may also try Animal Cuts next depending on how the rest of this cycle works out. So far so good but, the first couple weeks are always the easiest.

[Nivea]

I've been taking CL Reduction for about a week now and I can only tell that my sleeping has improved just a bit thx to that pm pill and indeed the dreams keep coming one after the other (its weird that I wake up after each one though, but I go back to sleep in no time).

After I stopped Hydroxycut about 10 days ago, I felt like a zombie for the next couple of days and the CL Reduction hasn't been working as fast as HH did. The weight loss has been minimal so far and just today I was able to pickup where HH left.

But I'm pretty hopeful really, I think together with Green Mag this should be able to do a good job. I'll report more next friday or before If I see anything significant.

[knford]

Hyperdrive 3.0, formerly Venom Hyperdrive, works the best for me! http://www.topshapesupplements.com/alr-hyperdrive-30-p-10671.html

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I know this is a stupid question but can anyone compare the REDuction AM/PM pill size to any other common pill like Tylenol or just give me the exact size in mg's. I have finally learned how to take medium sized pills but I don't think I'm ready to take a gigantic one just yet.
its similar in size to orange triad and to a 00 capsule.

is ANIMAL CUTS only meant for people close to their goals, or would it be suitable for someone like me... who is about 30 pounds from their goal?

also... how long after finishing REDUCTION should i wait before starting another cycle? you can do 2 boxes of reduction before cycling off of all stims for 10 days. during the cycle off period you can continue to use REDuction PM


i just bought my gf the REDuction pills. Is it ok for her to only take one am pill a day instead of the recommended two? to start yet, but once acclimated, she should take the full dose


I've been on a cut for the last 11 days using only Lipo 6x, Orange Triad, ON protein, and fish oil. So far I've lost 10 pounds. I had negative results with Reduction but, I have to admit my diet is in check and was not when I took Reduction.

I may try Reduction again but, I'm not a fan of the PM pill. Sometimes I know i'm only going to get 5 or less hours of sleep and it's hard enough to wake up as it is. I may also try Animal Cuts next depending on how the rest of this cycle works out. So far so good but, the first couple weeks are always the easiest. reduction pm wont prevent you from waking up if you can only get 5 hours of sleep. use an alarm clock and you will be fine ;)


I've been taking CL Reduction for about a week now and I can only tell that my sleeping has improved just a bit thx to that pm pill and indeed the dreams keep coming one after the other (its weird that I wake up after each one though, but I go back to sleep in no time).

After I stopped Hydroxycut about 10 days ago, I felt like a zombie for the next couple of days and the CL Reduction hasn't been working as fast as HH did. The weight loss has been minimal so far and just today I was able to pickup where HH left.

But I'm pretty hopeful really, I think together with Green Mag this should be able to do a good job. I'll report more next friday or before If I see anything significant. looking forward to your updates :cool:

[briankoke]

"use an alarm clock and you will be fine"

I have a hard time waking up to an alarm clock. Even a very loud one. Will the PM pill make it any worse if I only get 5 or less hours of sleep?

[jax92178]

has anyone tried lipozene?

[Warneckutz]

taken lipo 6 and hydroxcut. lipo 6 was a waste, hyrdoxcut was a lil better, looking to try animal cuts or reduction. anyone have thoughts on dren by mhp


Were you using Lipo-6 or Lipo-6x? I like the 6x over the regular 6. Hydroxycut made me sweat more than usual... who knows...

A few months ago I purchased a bottle of REDuction. I was pleased with the results and I intend to try a longer cycle sometime in the near future.

Currently, I'm on my second can of Animal Cuts. So far, I like it. Not sure how much you're into the Universal Animal products but they have a pretty solid line (in my opinion) just like Controlled Labs. If you're considering Cuts, definitely aim to buy at least two cans. (They stack well with other Animal Products, but give yourself a 4-hour window if you intend on trying their Stak)

Just my $.02!

-Ant

[tkeneklis]

When it comes to fat burners, I'm petite so sometimes the recommended dose is a bit much for me. I recently finished a cycle of Fastin and I lost 12 lbs in a month. Before that the scale was not moving. It really made me feel good. I was energized for my workout and it killed my appetite. Also at night when I get the SUPER munchies, I noticed that that went away. With the lesser appetite it waseasier eating smaller meals 5 times a day.

[arshah]

Were you using Lipo-6 or Lipo-6x? I like the 6x over the regular 6. Hydroxycut made me sweat more than usual... who knows...

A few months ago I purchased a bottle of REDuction. I was pleased with the results and I intend to try a longer cycle sometime in the near future.

Currently, I'm on my second can of Animal Cuts. So far, I like it. Not sure how much you're into the Universal Animal products but they have a pretty solid line (in my opinion) just like Controlled Labs. If you're considering Cuts, definitely aim to buy at least two cans. (They stack well with other Animal Products, but give yourself a 4-hour window if you intend on trying their Stak)

Just my $.02!

-Ant

thanks for the $.02, very helpful, yea i was on the regular 6

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Were you using Lipo-6 or Lipo-6x? I like the 6x over the regular 6. Hydroxycut made me sweat more than usual... who knows...

A few months ago I purchased a bottle of REDuction. I was pleased with the results and I intend to try a longer cycle sometime in the near future.

Currently, I'm on my second can of Animal Cuts. So far, I like it. Not sure how much you're into the Universal Animal products but they have a pretty solid line (in my opinion) just like Controlled Labs. If you're considering Cuts, definitely aim to buy at least two cans. (They stack well with other Animal Products, but give yourself a 4-hour window if you intend on trying their Stak)

Just my $.02!

-Ant

thanks for your feedback on REDuction :) (have you thought of adding REDuction PM to your current fat burner?)

[KFlexing]

The only two fat burners I've really ever tried was Hydroxicut Hardcore and Nx Labs Methyl Ripped Hardcore. The Hydroxicut was okay, but the Nx Labs Ripped Hardcore was one of the most effective products I've ever purchased. If your wanting to get ripped up and tear some of that fat away, try Ripped Hardcore from Nx Labs

[Nivea]

The only two fat burners I've really ever tried was Hydroxicut Hardcore and Nx Labs Methyl Ripped Hardcore. The Hydroxicut was okay, but the Nx Labs Ripped Hardcore was one of the most effective products I've ever purchased. If your wanting to get ripped up and tear some of that fat away, try Ripped Hardcore from Nx Labs

never heard of it, what were your results? that thing got to much ingredients :D

[GolferMan]

Ephedrine is no longer a banned substance. look for Vasopro Ephedrine HCL by Mega-Pro.

i did a search to buy some here http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ephedra.html but it says that it was banned in 2004....?

[DNRCMO]

After reading almost all 100+ pages to this thread I've decided to try Animal Cuts stacked with Animal Stak 2.

What are some thoughts about this stack? I've tried Hydroxycut Hardcore twice. The first time it worked wonders and followed it up with a bottle of Lipo6x (which did nothing). I tried HH again to have it do nothing (I think it was my fault for not maxing out the dosage). Right now I'm taking NAno vapor and Celltech. I've noticed a gain in weight and it is definately muscle...by BF% is falling (only a little bit as weight is going up, but still in the right direction).

I am looking to shed the last 10-15 pounds of fat. I'm currently 182 with a BF% (from a cheap scale) of 21%! My goad is to lose more fat and add strength. I go to Jamaica again in 4 months and want to look good on the beach. My diet is pretty well in check. My arms look good when compared to the spare tire around my waste. I can't seem to shed fat from my midsection (middle of the abs to my LOVE HANDLES).

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanx!

Lastly, they say not to take both at the same time (they should be taken at least 4-6 hours apart). Which one should I take before the work out?? I can take CUTS right away in the morning 6AM...then take STAK2 @ 11AM followed by CUTS prework out at about 4PM...sound like a good plan??

[Uninvited]

I read posts and i am confused. I decided to buy lipo 6x but i did not read good comment about it. Please help me guys what can you suggest to me ?
Animal cuts or lipo6x or hydroxycut. And why ? Thanxx.

[DNRCMO]

I read posts and i am confused. I decided to buy lipo 6x but i did not read good comment about it. Please help me guys what can you suggest to me ?
Animal cuts or lipo6x or hydroxycut. And why ? Thanxx.

I am biased, but Hydroxycut Hardcore did work for me the first time I took it. I think my problem with the second time was I didn't take the full dose of 3 pills 2x daily. That may have helped the second time. Again, the first bottle did wonders for me. I'd recommend Hydroxycut Hardcore if you're new to the stuff and maybe next time try something else. Just my thoughts.

[scaz]

I am using Mitotropin and it has really done alot for me. I hear alot of good things Hydroxycut Hardcore, REDuction, and Animal Cuts. I know that you should switch off Mitotropin after 30 days so I want to try one of the other products, but which one next? I want to eventrally get into a rutein with one of the supplements, but I am not sure which one.

[NaturalproMJG]

My personal favorite is Methyl Ripped Hardcore from NxLabs (newest version of Methyl Ripped). I like the way it kicks in almost immediately after you take it and gives you a nice 'up' feeling rather than a 'jittery bouncing off the walls' feeling.

[furyhockey]

After reading almost all 100+ pages to this thread I've decided to try Animal Cuts stacked with Animal Stak 2.

What are some thoughts about this stack? I've tried Hydroxycut Hardcore twice. The first time it worked wonders and followed it up with a bottle of Lipo6x (which did nothing). I tried HH again to have it do nothing (I think it was my fault for not maxing out the dosage). Right now I'm taking NAno vapor and Celltech. I've noticed a gain in weight and it is definately muscle...by BF% is falling (only a little bit as weight is going up, but still in the right direction).

I am looking to shed the last 10-15 pounds of fat. I'm currently 182 with a BF% (from a cheap scale) of 21%! My goad is to lose more fat and add strength. I go to Jamaica again in 4 months and want to look good on the beach. My diet is pretty well in check. My arms look good when compared to the spare tire around my waste. I can't seem to shed fat from my midsection (middle of the abs to my LOVE HANDLES).

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanx!

Lastly, they say not to take both at the same time (they should be taken at least 4-6 hours apart). Which one should I take before the work out?? I can take CUTS right away in the morning 6AM...then take STAK2 @ 11AM followed by CUTS prework out at about 4PM...sound like a good plan??


First, get off Cell-Tech if your looking to shed some pounds. It has a ton of sugar and the creatine will keep water weight. Stick with vapor if you like that for pre workout or any other pre-workout supp. DIET and CARDIO is the two most important things when trying to look lean. As far as supp timing I think you should take cuts in the AM right away and then if you workout at 4 i would take cuts at 230 3:00ish and stak 20min pre workout. Just my opinion i have taken both also.

[DNRCMO]

First, get off Cell-Tech if your looking to shed some pounds. It has a ton of sugar and the creatine will keep water weight. Stick with vapor if you like that for pre workout or any other pre-workout supp. DIET and CARDIO is the two most important things when trying to look lean. As far as supp timing I think you should take cuts in the AM right away and then if you workout at 4 i would take cuts at 230 3:00ish and stak 20min pre workout. Just my opinion i have taken both also.

Done...Cell-tech is out. Thanx for the advice. I'm looking into the 12 week program from bodybuilding.com w/ Chris Gethin. Sounds like solid advice (except for all the supplements) sounds like a sales pitch to me. But all in all, sounds like a good program for someone in my position. Anybody else have input on this??

[paulpaul66]

The Hydroxy Hardcore gave me a bad sinus infection.... guess it is a rare side effect though...

Suppose we are looking for legit alternatives here, but I still get unparalleled fat lose results from Clen/T3 stack.

[X_IGoHard_X]

The Hydroxy Hardcore gave me a bad sinus infection.... guess it is a rare side effect though...

Suppose we are looking for legit alternatives here, but I still get unparalleled fat lose results from Clen/T3 stack.

First off nothing beats Clen and T3, but they are illegal most places.

Hydroxycut hardcore gave me some bad sides too! Bad headaches and ear aches.

I found out about Cellucors D4 Thermal shock and gave it a try. It was expensive but worth it! I dropped 5% BF in a month and lost around 13LB!

Stuff is legit!

[Basil08]

First off nothing beats Clen and T3, but they are illegal most places.



Ever heard of DNP?

[X_IGoHard_X]

Ever heard of DNP?

Yeah I have, It sounds awesome but dangerous if you dont know what you doing? Have you ever used it?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I am using Mitotropin and it has really done alot for me. I hear alot of good things Hydroxycut Hardcore, REDuction, and Animal Cuts. I know that you should switch off Mitotropin after 30 days so I want to try one of the other products, but which one next? I want to eventrally get into a rutein with one of the supplements, but I am not sure which one.

try a free REDuction sample, you will love it :)

[DBaumgard]

Someone please pm me where I get real clen.

[engl4nd]

Currently using Hydroxycut caffeine free since the weekend. I noticed today in the gym during cardio that I started sweating like crazy after 20mins on the threadmill.

Too early to say if this fat burner is working

[goldengoddess22]

Actually I heard that not all ephedra is banned, only kind that is banned is the Ephedra Senicia. But stores still sell the kind that has Ephedra viridis and Ephedra extracts. The difference is that ephedra senicia has ephedra alkaloids in it which i guess is suppose to much worse than the other two kinds. So you can still find products such as lipodrene (which i'm thinking about taking) that has ephedra in them. Does anyone have any feedback on lipodrene?

[cyben]

Bought Lipo6X for myself and Muscletech Hydroxycut Hardcore for a friend, both of us had tried Controlled Labs REDuction before....

Both of us much prefer REDuction, personally i find REDuction AM rocks! I would take it every morning about 6am before i get into the shower... On an empty stomach, after 5min could really feel the REDuction kick in, make me feel fully awake, full of energy and in a very good mood... Never had that feeling when i was on Lipo 6X though or any other "fat burner" for that matter...

Lost nearly 14lbs in about 4weeks on REDuction, mostly doing cardio 30-50min 4-5times a week. Still need to shed some weight will go back to REDuction soon...

[Warneckutz]

Currently using Hydroxycut caffeine free since the weekend. I noticed today in the gym during cardio that I started sweating like crazy after 20mins on the threadmill.

Too early to say if this fat burner is working

I don't start my Lipo-6 BLACK until next week, but I've used the Hydroxycut Hardcore before and it definitely makes me sweat more than any other fat burner I've tried... I didn't feel much else, but it was definitely a nasty sweat.

[pbuza]

I don't start my Lipo-6 BLACK until next week, but I've used the Hydroxycut Hardcore before and it definitely makes me sweat more than any other fat burner I've tried... I didn't feel much else, but it was definitely a nasty sweat.

I didn't know they started selling Lipo-6 Black. Let us know how it is.

[pokerdude069]

for animal cuts, do you take 2 times a day or just before work outs? the can says twice a day but is that necessary??

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Bought Lipo6X for myself and Muscletech Hydroxycut Hardcore for a friend, both of us had tried Controlled Labs REDuction before....

Both of us much prefer REDuction, personally i find REDuction AM rocks! I would take it every morning about 6am before i get into the shower... On an empty stomach, after 5min could really feel the REDuction kick in, make me feel fully awake, full of energy and in a very good mood... Never had that feeling when i was on Lipo 6X though or any other "fat burner" for that matter...

Lost nearly 14lbs in about 4weeks on REDuction, mostly doing cardio 30-50min 4-5times a week. Still need to shed some weight will go back to REDuction soon...

WOW, excellent results on REDuction (14 pounds :eek: ), glad to hear that :)

[Atom_Bomb]

I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).

[Samkon]

for animal cuts, do you take 2 times a day or just before work outs? the can says twice a day but is that necessary??

Yes. Read the label.

[rowdy113]

I finally ordered CL Reduction after hearing numerous positive comments on it. I should receive my bottle within the next couple of days and hope to post my own positive results in the weeks to come.

[One_Shot]

Actually I heard that not all ephedra is banned, only kind that is banned is the Ephedra Senicia. But stores still sell the kind that has Ephedra viridis and Ephedra extracts. The difference is that ephedra senicia has ephedra alkaloids in it which i guess is suppose to much worse than the other two kinds. So you can still find products such as lipodrene (which i'm thinking about taking) that has ephedra in them. Does anyone have any feedback on lipodrene?

im using the lipodrene and it does seem to be working the first time i took it it seemed to get me sweating, after a while i have to start upping the dose, went from 1 in am, 1 in earlypm, upped to 2 am, and 1 pm but id say its not bad. give it a try.

[HeatFuelOxygen]

Cellucor D4. Nothing legal compares.

[AnkhUNCA]

I used REDuction for a while and liked it but I started getting very noticeable pain in the lower stomach area after taking it for about a week.

[Carloscda]

Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced!

[dh_biker]

would it be a bad idea to stack reduction with nx methyl ripped hardcore??
any input would be great

[cyben]

I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).
Maybe could do what i did sometimes, take one AM reduction in the morning and 1 AM pill just before your workout. The AM pills works best when taken 2 in the morn when u wake up, can really feel it...


I used REDuction for a while and liked it but I started getting very noticeable pain in the lower stomach area after taking it for about a week.
Never had such pain, guess diff people different reactions to it..


Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced!
Never had any side effects when i was on REDuction, had bad headaches when i was on LIPO 6X though..

[havingfun]

I just ordered REDuction since I use OT and mine as well use another product from you guys.

My question is should you ONLY take the PM formula before bed-time or can you take it 2 hours before bed?

Also, for the AM formula, are you suppose to take it first thing you wake up? Can you take it with breakfast or should you wait?

[glow9]

Reduction looks real good looks A LOT like Man Scorch. Sucks I can't order either to where I'm at in Canada. Anyone know anything similar?

[Nivea]

I've been taking CL Reduction for about a week now and I can only tell that my sleeping has improved just a bit thx to that pm pill and indeed the dreams keep coming one after the other (its weird that I wake up after each one though, but I go back to sleep in no time).

After I stopped Hydroxycut about 10 days ago, I felt like a zombie for the next couple of days and the CL Reduction hasn't been working as fast as HH did. The weight loss has been minimal so far and just today I was able to pickup where HH left.

But I'm pretty hopeful really, I think together with Green Mag this should be able to do a good job. I'll report more next friday or before If I see anything significant.


looking forward to your updates :cool:

I don't know if its CL Mag or Reduction, but my energy is like 'never ending'. Maybe its their teamwork or something. Anyway, my weight loss has finally started again. Hydroxycut Hardcore got me from 98KG to 93.5KG in a month, but it got stuck on 93.5KG for about a month untill I finished it. But with CL Reduction&MAG I'm now 91KG in about 20 days. My goal is 85KG and to get under 90KG by friday.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).
its fine as long as you dont take it (reduction AM) within 4-5 hours of the other stim product.

I finally ordered CL Reduction after hearing numerous positive comments on it. I should receive my bottle within the next couple of days and hope to post my own positive results in the weeks to come.
looking forward to your updates

Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced!
no side effects like that to speak of.

would it be a bad idea to stack reduction with nx methyl ripped hardcore??
any input would be great
no need, its perfect on its own.

I just ordered REDuction since I use OT and mine as well use another product from you guys.

My question is should you ONLY take the PM formula before bed-time or can you take it 2 hours before bed?

Also, for the AM formula, are you suppose to take it first thing you wake up? Can you take it with breakfast or should you wait?
2 hours before is fine, but ideally right before bed. its best to take the am pills 45 minutes before the meal (be it breakfast or lunch)

Reduction looks real good looks A LOT like Man Scorch. Sucks I can't order either to where I'm at in Canada. Anyone know anything similar?actually nothing like that product :D

why cant you get it into canada? seems to get through to everyone who buys it from here.


I don't know if its CL Mag or Reduction, but my energy is like 'never ending'. Maybe its their teamwork or something. Anyway, my weight loss has finally started again. Hydroxycut Hardcore got me from 98KG to 93.5KG in a month, but it got stuck on 93.5KG for about a month untill I finished it. But with CL Reduction&MAG I'm now 91KG in about 20 days. My goal is 85KG and to get under 90KG by friday.

def a combo, both are great for energy.

[Warneckutz]

thanks for your feedback on REDuction :) (have you thought of adding REDuction PM to your current fat burner?)

I'm actually jumping on the "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" deal. So that gives me Lipo-6 BLACK during the day and REDuction PM and Fusion's Shut-Eye at night...

[hopefulbee]

Does anyone recommend REDuction for women? I have been on Animal Cuts for months now and I believe it's time to swtich to something else. I work out 5-6x's a week, twice a day for an hour (weights at lunch, cardio after work)

I've had significant muscle growth, but I'm having trouble getting rid of the last 10 lbs of fat. I have about 2 full months to hit a personal deadline and really see improvements.
Thanks in advance!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm actually jumping on the "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" deal. So that gives me Lipo-6 BLACK during the day and REDuction PM and Fusion's Shut-Eye at night...
sounds pretty good :)

Does anyone recommend REDuction for women? I have been on Animal Cuts for months now and I believe it's time to swtich to something else. I work out 5-6x's a week, twice a day for an hour (weights at lunch, cardio after work)

I've had significant muscle growth, but I'm having trouble getting rid of the last 10 lbs of fat. I have about 2 full months to hit a personal deadline and really see improvements.
Thanks in advance!

absolutely, just be sure to cycle off of your stims for a week before starting it up

[majormods]

absolutely, just be sure to cycle off of your stims for a week before starting it up

what if we didnt? i went from hydroxycut hardcore and then to REDuction the next day. I finished one cycle of it, didnt see anything great but thats diet related not CL's issue. I just bought my second package of it so... should i finish this, then take 1 week off of anything, OR MORE and then start REDuction again?

[tastan]

REDuction gives me great night sleep. It allows me to sleep great. I haven't used it for a while though, since like last year. However now that they have just P.M. formula I might buy some just to help me sleep. As far as fat loss it didn't work that great for me.

Lipo 6 is definetly one of the best fat burners that I've tried. I am excited about new Lipo 6 Black. I will run some of it in the summer to get ripped.

If you have very little body fat, try NxCare Ripped Kit 21 day cycle. Works great for giving you that shredded look.

[clarkie21]

I just bought Lipo 6 and my question is that the bottle says not to take more than 4 pills per day but on this site it says for extreme fat loss to take 6 pills per day. Does anyone currently use this and take 6 per day?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

what if we didnt? i went from hydroxycut hardcore and then to REDuction the next day. I finished one cycle of it, didnt see anything great but thats diet related not CL's issue. I just bought my second package of it so... should i finish this, then take 1 week off of anything, OR MORE and then start REDuction again?
your adrenals will get fried and you wont react to stims as well. cycle off now (from all stims), then start again in 7-10 days

REDuction gives me great night sleep. It allows me to sleep great. I haven't used it for a while though, since like last year. However now that they have just P.M. formula I might buy some just to help me sleep. As far as fat loss it didn't work that great for me.

Lipo 6 is definetly one of the best fat burners that I've tried. I am excited about new Lipo 6 Black. I will run some of it in the summer to get ripped.

If you have very little body fat, try NxCare Ripped Kit 21 day cycle. Works great for giving you that shredded look.

glad to hear you liked REDuction. I think they still have the buy 2 get 1 free deal for REDuction PM up for some reason

[Fitzwell]

My $ .02 -
-Animal cuts - solid product, saw good results, even with a questionable diet
-REDuction - Got a lot from the PM but not so much the AM
-Atro-phex- unbelievable physical results, but horrifying pyschological results
-Tight Xtreme - Crap
-Lean Xtreme - Loving so far, tightens mid-section while keeping good muscle size

---BIG NEWS--- MITOTROPIN - Found online for $41!! Whole bottle and guide. I am going to run it in 2 weeks, I was just so excited when I found it for that cheap. I can't afford not to buy it!! haha

[gallup]

Has anyone tried Dialene 4 made by Scivation? I have heard good things about it before but just want to know if its worth trying.

[havingfun]

My question regarding reduction is why should you wait 30-45 minutes before eating? It's kind of hard for me to gap out such a large time in the morning because I have to eat breakfast ASAP so I can get out early.

Would taking it with a breakfast negate the results much more? If so I will force myself to wait 30-45 minutes only if eating before then is detrimental.

[Warneckutz]

I just bought Lipo 6 and my question is that the bottle says not to take more than 4 pills per day but on this site it says for extreme fat loss to take 6 pills per day. Does anyone currently use this and take 6 per day?

I can't comment on the regular Lipo-6, but last year I took two large bottles of the 6X back-to-back... I think I did pretty well by it.

I'm currently taking the maximum dosage for Lipo-6 BLACK (6 pills), I'm only on day two though, so too soon to tell if it's doing much.

[seanmwa]

For some reason Hydroxycut Hardcore just seems to work best for me. I've used it in the past to assist losing with losing weight and since my car accident it helps keep the weight off as my cardio is still limited.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

My question regarding reduction is why should you wait 30-45 minutes before eating? It's kind of hard for me to gap out such a large time in the morning because I have to eat breakfast ASAP so I can get out early.

Would taking it with a breakfast negate the results much more? If so I will force myself to wait 30-45 minutes only if eating before then is detrimental.

the gap is for the appetite destruction to kick in before the meal so you will most likely eat less. you can take it with food, but you would lose the appetite destruction effects.

[pmpnballer0311]

I dont really get the appettite control with the AM pill but so far I am liking REDuction...I am halfway through my first bottle I dunno if I should get another pack for next month or try something new

I heard Methyl Ripped Hardcore is really good or maybe lean extreme

[dlmosby]

FDA announces recall of popular diet pill
Hydroxycut linked to reports of liver damage, other health problems

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30518843/?ocid=MSNToolbar100

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I dont really get the appettite control with the AM pill but so far I am liking REDuction...I am halfway through my first bottle I dunno if I should get another pack for next month or try something new


stick with it for at least 60 days total if you like it :)

[babby420]

24mg eph
200mg caff
1 asprin
youll be dripping

[hockeyrulez2424]

been on hydroxycut hardcore before and that worked well for me but after reading today what the FDA is saying about it, i dont think i will be ordering another bottle. read a lot of posts on here and i think my choices are narrowed down to Animal cuts, lean xtreme, and Mitotropin. what do you think is best? also, is it ok for me to take this if i'm trying to bulk or will it be killing some of my muscle as well?

[vteckiller142]

been on hydroxycut hardcore before and that worked well for me but after reading today what the FDA is saying about it, i dont think i will be ordering another bottle. read a lot of posts on here and i think my choices are narrowed down to Animal cuts, lean xtreme, and Mitotropin. what do you think is best? also, is it ok for me to take this if i'm trying to bulk or will it be killing some of my muscle as well?

yea I just have new bottle just hitting of hydroxycut but I also read about it and decided to throw in the garbadge so now I just ordered Reduction and hope to see some good results

[irboreddd]

Quick question, I just ordered REDuction to cut some bodyfat down and lean up, I'm pretty lean, but I want that shredded and ripped look.
I've took SuperPump/Plasmajet for like 2 months, I read some posts here that I should wait about 1 week before taking REDuction because of the stims?

Any advice would be great, thanks.

[fxtrader777]

HI guys, what is best fat burner tested by yourselves, also I wonder will I regain fat when I stop getting pills. But continue training activity and eating normally.

thanks

[twoheadedboy]

This is a combination "supplement bio"/opinion request/question...

I'm new to the serious gym and diet thing, as in I was never what I'd call "serious" about it since the beginning of this year, and that includes the time in which I was an athlete in high school (I'm 27 now).

Here's the progression I've made:

Phase 1: Myoplex Lite after my workouts, that's all.
Phase 2: Switched to the full Myoplex, at some point also added 6 hour energy pre-workout
Phase 2.5: Canned the 6 hour energy and went with Ripped Fuel 6x
Phase 3: Got my GNC gold card (again) and changed the protein to Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60 (at the recommendation of the dbag at my particular GNC)
Phase 3.5 Went to Hydroxycut Hardcore for the fat burning/energy portion of my supplementation.

6 hour energy didn't do much for me. Ripped Fuel was OK but BURNED MY MOUTH unless I put it in there with already having a mouthful of water and swallowed it quickly. HH was phenomenal though...my stomach was a little upset with the first dose and I was a little jittery the first couple of days, but after that I felt phenomenal every day...I was VERY disappointed when that got taken off the market as I've had steady weight loss since taking it. Before, I knew I was gaining muscle and losing fat but the scale wasn't budging. Not a huge deal, but at 6'0" I want to be less than 218 (at 212 now after the past 3 weeks with stricter diet, more cardio, and HH).

You can probably guess why I'm having to rethink things now. I returned my HH, wasn't very impressed with the selection or price at the GNC store on thermogenics (I've spent quite a bit of time reading this site and the forums since the announcement), so I just got fish oil and shakers with my credit since I'm fine on my protein stock. Now I've just ordered REDuction from here because the reviews seem great (maybe a lot of "street teamer" type folks for Controlled Labs running around here, though?) and the price per day is very reasonable, especially compared to the Lipo6x Black which was in my top 3 to consider (the other being Animal Cuts, which I almost walked out of GNC with, but didn't like the price there even though I spent more on HH when I ordered that). Fewer pills per day than Lipo6x Black or HH, too, which is nice. Got samples of White Flood and Purple Wraath while we're at it, so we'll see what happens.

I work a lot, plus have a long commute (40 min 1-way), plus have a number of other commitments and interests besides going to the gym. Right now I am focusing on cardio because my gym is having a challenge where the top 3 people in half-hours of cardio time in a 2-month period get free months of membership. As a result I've been going 7 days a week, doing 10 hours of low intensity cardio on the weekend and an hour of medium intensity cardio during the week. Usually what I'll do is an hour of elliptical when the gym opens (5am) and then do legs Monday night, same Tuesday but various flys and lateral arm exercises Tuesday night, nothing Wed or Fri, Thursday night I bowl, and then I do triceps/chest on one day and biceps/back on the other with compound exercises that all utilize my shoulders, and I also do crunches on every day that I do weights.

I think once this is over I'm going to hit weights a LOT harder and possibly add some creatine supplementation, if I'm happy enough with my weight and look at that time to start thinking about my size. I've been as thin as 160 (mid to late high school) and as fat as 250 (a few years ago, I'm 27 now)...I was 195 last spring and one of my goals is to get back to that point then go from there.

So that's my story. I'm looking for opinions on my progress thus far, my "stack" (hah), but I also had a question...I took my normal early AM 3 HH capsules Fri morning. Heard about the recall and didn't take my 2nd dose in early afternoon. I'd been on it for 3 straight weeks at that point. No adverse effects, good sleep Friday night, woke up feeling great Sat morning, but then at about 10am my energy levels completely TANKED, I got through about 1 1/2 hours of pointless recumbent bike riding for the competition but then I came home and napped until my girlfriend came home from work and woke me up, also had a splitting headache. I have no other sickness symptoms, and though I'm somewhat stressed about work there's nothing going on that's abnormal right now, including my sleep which has been fine. My question is, does that sound like I was withdrawing from the high levels of caffeine I was getting from HH that I just suddenly stopped?

[mohammed57]

I'm reading alot of good stuff about REDuction AM/PM...

i was just looking for more help on some other things, i'm really looking to lose my belly fat, i'm in great shape and i am pretty cut everywhere but i just can't seem to lose my belly fat...right now i'm taking eaon which is pretty good...this is how my day looks...

wake up at 0415, start work at 5 and take arson hr or 2 prior to eating breakfast and i eat around 0745.
eat lunch around 1045.
take another serving of arson and hit the gym around 1330 and immediately after take my whey protein shake.
eat dinner around 1800
go to sleep around 2100...

so i'm basically asking how should i take REDuction AM/PM and what time? and should i mix another supplement for pre workout to help lose the belly fat...

i do, do alot of cardio i'm in the military so i do run alot but i just can't seem to lose the fat, and i do eat pretty healthy i don't eat great but i don't eat mcdonalds...

any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance

[CONTROLLED LABS]

yea I just have new bottle just hitting of hydroxycut but I also read about it and decided to throw in the garbadge so now I just ordered Reduction and hope to see some good results
glad to hear it, keep us posted on how you like it

Quick question, I just ordered REDuction to cut some bodyfat down and lean up, I'm pretty lean, but I want that shredded and ripped look.
I've took SuperPump/Plasmajet for like 2 months, I read some posts here that I should wait about 1 week before taking REDuction because of the stims?

Any advice would be great, thanks.
correct, cycle off of all stims for 7-10 days before you start

I'm reading alot of good stuff about REDuction AM/PM...

i was just looking for more help on some other things, i'm really looking to lose my belly fat, i'm in great shape and i am pretty cut everywhere but i just can't seem to lose my belly fat...right now i'm taking eaon which is pretty good...this is how my day looks...

wake up at 0415, start work at 5 and take arson hr or 2 prior to eating breakfast and i eat around 0745.
eat lunch around 1045.
take another serving of arson and hit the gym around 1330 and immediately after take my whey protein shake.
eat dinner around 1800
go to sleep around 2100...

so i'm basically asking how should i take REDuction AM/PM and what time? and should i mix another supplement for pre workout to help lose the belly fat...

i do, do alot of cardio i'm in the military so i do run alot but i just can't seem to lose the fat, and i do eat pretty healthy i don't eat great but i don't eat mcdonalds...

any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance
will you still be taking arson?

[bosco_]

So I've gotten up to 228 and now summer is almost here. It's not fat but some did accumulate as usual.

I had previously used the CL stack (GM, WF and PW) which was awesome. I cycled off it and used VPX NO Shotgun and SyntheSize. (I think taking one pre-wo and the other post gave me gastrointestinal problems.) They worked but actually not as good as the CL stuff.

Now I am taking Purple K, AllMax MusclePrime and BCAA caps.

This is all in conjunction with multi's, Omega-3's, B6/12, extra zinc and selenium and saw palmetto. As well, high protein diet, with Whey isolate or myoplex as supp meals.

Now besides ramping up cardio I want to strip a bit of fat off. I was debating ECA and taking green tea and CLA. I also was thinking of taking CL Reduction.

Should I take all or would the ECA be unnecessary with Reduction and vice versa?

Thanks for any opinions.

[canecorso2009]

muscle pharm shred

[ludeser13]

Has anyone tried Dialene 4 made by Scivation? I have heard good things about it before but just want to know if its worth trying.

i suffered some really bad headaches taking dialene 4 and i was taking only 1 pill at a time. i returned the bottle back to bb.com two days later. it was a horrible experience for me.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I dont really get the appettite control with the AM pill but so far I am liking REDuction...I am halfway through my first bottle I dunno if I should get another pack for next month or try something new

I heard Methyl Ripped Hardcore is really good or maybe lean extreme


So I've gotten up to 228 and now summer is almost here. It's not fat but some did accumulate as usual.

I had previously used the CL stack (GM, WF and PW) which was awesome. I cycled off it and used VPX NO Shotgun and SyntheSize. (I think taking one pre-wo and the other post gave me gastrointestinal problems.) They worked but actually not as good as the CL stuff.

Now I am taking Purple K, AllMax MusclePrime and BCAA caps.

This is all in conjunction with multi's, Omega-3's, B6/12, extra zinc and selenium and saw palmetto. As well, high protein diet, with Whey isolate or myoplex as supp meals.

Now besides ramping up cardio I want to strip a bit of fat off. I was debating ECA and taking green tea and CLA. I also was thinking of taking CL Reduction.

Should I take all or would the ECA be unnecessary with Reduction and vice versa?

Thanks for any opinions.
you wouldnt need both, reduction is great on its own and offers the benefits of the PM portion as well :)

[CowboyJB]

Before I came to this thread, I had pretty much decided to try Arson as a fat burner to shred for summer. But after reading about 10 pages of posts, it appears that REDuction AM/PM and Animal Cuts are the most popular among the posters here. I am sure this has been mentioned, but instead of looking through 104 pages of posts, I thought I would ask again. What are the side effects that you guys have experienced with both. In the past I have felt uncomfortably jittery with Lipo 6X and hydroxycut. I don't mind the sweating, but I don't want the jitters, unable to sleep, or reduction in sex drive that I have read as side effects of some of the other products.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Before I came to this thread, I had pretty much decided to try Arson as a fat burner to shred for summer. But after reading about 10 pages of posts, it appears that REDuction AM/PM and Animal Cuts are the most popular among the posters here. I am sure this has been mentioned, but instead of looking through 104 pages of posts, I thought I would ask again. What are the side effects that you guys have experienced with both. In the past I have felt uncomfortably jittery with Lipo 6X and hydroxycut. I don't mind the sweating, but I don't want the jitters, unable to sleep, or reduction in sex drive that I have read as side effects of some of the other products.

you wont get those sides with REDuction and the REDuction PM will actually help you with sleep

[twoheadedboy]

Well, after only the first 1/2 day, I'm sold on REDuction, at least the AM portion (pending results on PM). I was previously taking Hydroxycut Hardcore, and compared to that it gives a gentle boost, not an over-hyped up feeling. The biggest difference for me, however, is how it causes you to shed water...my sweat went up 2x and my pee was at normal or less-than-normal (without diet supps) levels. I weighed myself before I started tonight, 209.2. After 1 hour on the elliptical (just buckets of sweat) plus 45 minutes of moderately intense weightlifting, my weight: 208.2. That's INSANE. At this point I should have a lot of extra water weight to shed because I've been working out hard for 5 months and as I said, I was on Hydroxycut...3 straight weeks until mid-day Friday I stopped cold turkey to reassess my options after the FDA recall.

I'm pretty excited to see what I ring up on the scale tomorrow morning when I do cardio, and how I do through the weekend when I go up to the full dosage and really hit the gym hard Saturday and Sunday.

[vcackerman]

I just started using Animal Cuts and have used all sorts of fat burners over the year and have to say that the combination of materials in Animal Cuts is giving me a burn that I haven't felt in a long time.

[Redcutter]

I just started using Animal Cuts and have used all sorts of fat burners over the year and have to say that the combination of materials in Animal Cuts is giving me a burn that I haven't felt in a long time.

How do you space the two packs?

On a side note;
Can I take Animal Cuts during the day(at recommended dosage) and then take REDuction PM before sleeping?

[teenwolf41]

How do you space the two packs?

On a side note;
Can I take Animal Cuts during the day(at recommended dosage) and then take REDuction PM before sleeping?

Take 1 pack 30 min before breakfast then take another pack 4-6 hours later. And yes you can take REDuction PM before sleeping with cuts.

[Prthse22oz]

I am currently using NO Shotgun and NO SYnthasize, should I wait to start taking REDuction AM/PM or is it safe to take both.

[Carloscda]

I've read that ReDuction is supposed to be very good but after looking at the ratings
at the "store page" it only gets a 5 out of 10?

[joe8489]

hi guys, this is my first post on these forums

some good reading by the way

my name is joe and i live in melbourne australia

i am trying to get my hands on some fat burning products. I tried ripped fuel by twinlab back in 2002 and it absolutely ripped me to shreds, then i wasnt able to get sent to australia anymore because of its being banned

was wondering if someone can reccommend the following:

1. best product around in the market, like ripped, something something , effective , and something that works

2. and secondly how do i get it sent to australia? in pill form? will it be sent in a large mail envolope?

any help would be appreciated

cheers

[accelerative]

Check out MUSCLESPEED:
- It's amazing for weight loss
- it elevates mood
- Suppresses appetite to cut craving
- Great power and endurance in the gym

Many logs here on bb.com with the product. Also, many reviews about as it as well.
It's worth at least taking a look at it.

[joe8489]

Check out MUSCLESPEED:
- It's amazing for weight loss
- it elevates mood
- Suppresses appetite to cut craving
- Great power and endurance in the gym

Many logs here on bb.com with the product. Also, many reviews about as it as well.
It's worth at least taking a look at it.

Thanks Accelerative

respectfully, i would rather hear from someone who doesnt have the very product they are recommending in their signature, byline and avatar. No offense

Any independant recommendations on fat burning products, similar to 2001's version of Ripped Fuel out there?

Thanks

[oufinny]

If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it!

[joe8489]

If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it!

thanks for that, will look into that one

now do you or anyone else have any ideas as to how i would get that product into Australia?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well, after only the first 1/2 day, I'm sold on REDuction, at least the AM portion (pending results on PM). I was previously taking Hydroxycut Hardcore, and compared to that it gives a gentle boost, not an over-hyped up feeling. The biggest difference for me, however, is how it causes you to shed water...my sweat went up 2x and my pee was at normal or less-than-normal (without diet supps) levels. I weighed myself before I started tonight, 209.2. After 1 hour on the elliptical (just buckets of sweat) plus 45 minutes of moderately intense weightlifting, my weight: 208.2. That's INSANE. At this point I should have a lot of extra water weight to shed because I've been working out hard for 5 months and as I said, I was on Hydroxycut...3 straight weeks until mid-day Friday I stopped cold turkey to reassess my options after the FDA recall.

I'm pretty excited to see what I ring up on the scale tomorrow morning when I do cardio, and how I do through the weekend when I go up to the full dosage and really hit the gym hard Saturday and Sunday.
awesome, looking forward to updates

How do you space the two packs?

On a side note;
Can I take Animal Cuts during the day(at recommended dosage) and then take REDuction PM before sleeping?
sure thing.

I am currently using NO Shotgun and NO SYnthasize, should I wait to start taking REDuction AM/PM or is it safe to take both.
that is fine, but space the REDuction AM dose at least 4-5 hours away from the shotgun

I've read that ReDuction is supposed to be very good but after looking at the ratings
at the "store page" it only gets a 5 out of 10?
some people expect miracles without putting in the hard work on diet and lifting that are needed as well for results and the three 1/10 ratings are really pushing it down. the feedback on this board is more beneficial in terms of its true merits.

[joe8489]

If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it!

Oufinny

It seems as though the Lipo range are readily available in Autralia

These products are ephedra free? Why are they so effective then?

Cheers

[nikemota23]

so im leaning towards REDuction PM..

I've taken lipo6 and i HATED the side effects lol, they were awful

and ive been on apidexin for a month, its allright, but it didnt give me the boost of energy, and i had no side effects, although i did get dizzy when i stood up too fast
anyone else take apidexin before?

and also, before i buy REDuction PM, you guys recommend anything? I.E how many i should take ect..

also...i workout/cardio around 10pm, im wondering when i should take the pills?

[Warneckutz]

If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it!

I'm almost through my first bottle of Lipo-6 BLACK, I'm pretty impressed. It definitely offers a burst of energy and really helps me through long workouts...

[CONTROLLED LABS]

so im leaning towards REDuction PM..

I've taken lipo6 and i HATED the side effects lol, they were awful

and ive been on apidexin for a month, its allright, but it didnt give me the boost of energy, and i had no side effects, although i did get dizzy when i stood up too fast
anyone else take apidexin before?

and also, before i buy REDuction PM, you guys recommend anything? I.E how many i should take ect..

also...i workout/cardio around 10pm, im wondering when i should take the pills?

any reason you are avoiding stims? if not, then look into the full REDuction (am/pm)

[twoheadedboy]

REDuction AM is only about 1 cup of coffee per pill (from what I can tell, mg-wise), so 2 cups of coffee per dose. I don't know about you guys but if I'm not taking in any other caffeine, 2 cups of coffee isn't going to do a whole lot (jittery-wise).

[twoheadedboy]

updates

It's continued to be great...6 lbs in 6 days. What I'd like to know is if I could split the two AM pills...the caffeine wears off on me mid-day while still at work and I'd rather stick to supplements for caffeine than having to get some 1pm sludge coffee at the office. I won't do it if it'll be less effective, however.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

REDuction AM is only about 1 cup of coffee per pill (from what I can tell, mg-wise), so 2 cups of coffee per dose. I don't know about you guys but if I'm not taking in any other caffeine, 2 cups of coffee isn't going to do a whole lot (jittery-wise). there are other stims in there too, not just caffeine


It's continued to be great...6 lbs in 6 days. What I'd like to know is if I could split the two AM pills...the caffeine wears off on me mid-day while still at work and I'd rather stick to supplements for caffeine than having to get some 1pm sludge coffee at the office. I won't do it if it'll be less effective, however.

absolutely, that is fine

[BoWeDuPdiver]

I tried REDuction, which sucked, Mitotropin was ok, hydroxycut hardcore was great for me until it started killing people, I am now trying cytolean....

[dschare]

why was Xenedrine NRG discontinued???? I loved that stuff! I dropped over 40 pounds in 4 months on that! I also didn't get that jittery feeling that some can give you... Now I'm taking Ripped Fuel 5X but it's just not the same.







So I've gotten up to 228 and now summer is almost here. It's not fat but some did accumulate as usual.

I had previously used the CL stack (GM, WF and PW) which was awesome. I cycled off it and used VPX NO Shotgun and SyntheSize. (I think taking one pre-wo and the other post gave me gastrointestinal problems.) They worked but actually not as good as the CL stuff.

Now I am taking Purple K, AllMax MusclePrime and BCAA caps.

This is all in conjunction with multi's, Omega-3's, B6/12, extra zinc and selenium and saw palmetto. As well, high protein diet, with Whey isolate or myoplex as supp meals.

Now besides ramping up cardio I want to strip a bit of fat off. I was debating ECA and taking green tea and CLA. I also was thinking of taking CL Reduction.

Should I take all or would the ECA be unnecessary with Reduction and vice versa?

Thanks for any opinions.

[joshy22]

I do not often post on the forums unless I feel I have something VERY worthwhile to contribute. I have used all the big name fatburners like Hydroxycut Hardcore, Lipo 6x, Arson, MAN Scorch, Animal Cuts, EC, all with varying degrees of success............I recently started using Slim Xtreme (SX) by Anabolic Extreme. I must inform you this is one of the best fatburners I have ever tried. Its the first true 12 hour + fatburner. I take 2 in the morning and I get clean CONSISTENT energy, and focus the entire day without any feelings of jitters, nervousness or discomfort. It isn't a caffeine pill like most fatburners yet it lasts all day without any side effects. You feel productive and energetic. You are better at work, in the gym and everywhere else your life will take you. I can't stress enough how much I like this product! The ingredients that are in SX are revolutionary as are the ingredients in the other amazing products from this company. For those in the know, they will confirm that this company just puts out awesome product after awesome product. I was a skeptic until I tried this product. Do your research!!!!

[BadWog]

Oufinny

It seems as though the Lipo range are readily available in Autralia

These products are ephedra free? Why are they so effective then?

Cheers

Yes they are available here and they work great. I'm using an old bottle of Lipo 6 I had lying around atm and I'm getting great results. I'm sure the new versions are even better.

You have to be careful with trying to get fat burners from the states because if you try and import anything with Yohimbine in it, Customs will seize it. Been there, done that.

It may cost a bit more, but imo you should just buy some Lipo 6 from an Aussie supplement store like Vitaminking or something similar. If you wanna buy from BB.com, you should be able to get some MAN Scorch in without any troubles (I've bought tons of it from here) and it's dirt cheap and works well.

Good luck mate.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Yes they are available here and they work great. I'm using an old bottle of Lipo 6 I had lying around atm and I'm getting great results. I'm sure the new versions are even better.

You have to be careful with trying to get fat burners from the states because if you try and import anything with Yohimbine in it, Customs will seize it. Been there, done that.

It may cost a bit more, but imo you should just buy some Lipo 6 from an Aussie supplement store like Vitaminking or something similar. If you wanna buy from BB.com, you should be able to get some MAN Scorch in without any troubles (I've bought tons of it from here) and it's dirt cheap and works well.

Good luck mate.

we now have a powdered version of REDuction available exclusively in Australia :)

[tflorko]

I do not often post on the forums unless I feel I have something VERY worthwhile to contribute. I have used all the big name fatburners like Hydroxycut Hardcore, Lipo 6x, Arson, MAN Scorch, Animal Cuts, EC, all with varying degrees of success............I recently started using Slim Xtreme (SX) by Anabolic Extreme. I must inform you this is one of the best fatburners I have ever tried. Its the first true 12 hour + fatburner. I take 2 in the morning and I get clean CONSISTENT energy, and focus the entire day without any feelings of jitters, nervousness or discomfort. It isn't a caffeine pill like most fatburners yet it lasts all day without any side effects. You feel productive and energetic. You are better at work, in the gym and everywhere else your life will take you. I can't stress enough how much I like this product! The ingredients that are in SX are revolutionary as are the ingredients in the other amazing products from this company. For those in the know, they will confirm that this company just puts out awesome product after awesome product. I was a skeptic until I tried this product. Do your research!!!!

I am not 100% sure on the product you are talking about, is it in the bb.com store? I see Stimulant X by anabolic extreme and Lean FX by Anabolic Extreme.

[theDeviousOne]

I am not 100% sure on the product you are talking about, is it in the bb.com store? I see Stimulant X by anabolic extreme and Lean FX by Anabolic Extreme.

Slim Xtreme will be on BB next week. It is Anabolic X's newest fat burning supplement,

Check it out at PowerOfSX.com

[bjjbadboy]

so i have been wanting to start taking a fat burner only thing i have taken is MHP's Trac creatine and had great results....i had some extra cash so went to the store for the CL reduction but they do not carry it at the store i was choosing between animal cuts, man scoorch, lean extreme and anadrox. I am very sensative to stims and have bad anxiety and depression so wanted to be careful.

i choose the anadrox b/c it works as a NO to and I really liked trac for that. I deff get a great work out and boosted mood and really not jumpy or any anxiety i have been taking for 3 or 4 days now and im up to the max dose.....i havent read to many bad things about it except that its not a great fat burner, everyone said it does all the things its doing but i want a fat burner to get rid of my little belly that i just cant do w/o completely cutting all carbs which always comes back once you start eating them...
also my girls mom gave her two full things of CLA can i mix this?? i have read that its just kind of seperates the good and bad fats to burn the bad ones easier?
cliffs
should i have picked i different fat burner
thinking maybe animal cuts and lean extreme or just waiting to order reduction

[jedma]

use mirrors and viagra and strech it!!!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

so i have been wanting to start taking a fat burner only thing i have taken is MHP's Trac creatine and had great results....i had some extra cash so went to the store for the CL reduction but they do not carry it at the store i was choosing between animal cuts, man scoorch, lean extreme and anadrox. I am very sensative to stims and have bad anxiety and depression so wanted to be careful.

i choose the anadrox b/c it works as a NO to and I really liked trac for that. I deff get a great work out and boosted mood and really not jumpy or any anxiety i have been taking for 3 or 4 days now and im up to the max dose.....i havent read to many bad things about it except that its not a great fat burner, everyone said it does all the things its doing but i want a fat burner to get rid of my little belly that i just cant do w/o completely cutting all carbs which always comes back once you start eating them...
also my girls mom gave her two full things of CLA can i mix this?? i have read that its just kind of seperates the good and bad fats to burn the bad ones easier?
cliffs
should i have picked i different fat burner
thinking maybe animal cuts and lean extreme or just waiting to order reduction
just order the REDuction from bb.com, vitamin shoppe also has it if you insist on a store.

[Bearster18]

Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?

[Atom_Bomb]

I have REDuction at home and wanted to start using it but when I read the label, it says not to mix with prescription meds. I only take Reactine now for my allergies...is this still OK? Can I take it at like 9pm and then the PM reduction around 11?

[ctAL860]

any good fat burners that dont contain this in it?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?
absolutely, will stack perfectly with those.

I have REDuction at home and wanted to start using it but when I read the label, it says not to mix with prescription meds. I only take Reactine now for my allergies...is this still OK? Can I take it at like 9pm and then the PM reduction around 11?
always ask your doctor before combining any supplement with a drug

any good fat burners that dont contain this in it?
REDuction ;)

[bjjbadboy]

Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?

whats this stack GM, WF, PW...i have been taking a fat burner but after its done looking to go back to put on some muscle have just been doing cardio and body weight stuff do to the lack of a gym membership which will be back next week or so, thinking wf is white flood and pw is purple wrath

[asalways]

Is there any replacement for Zero-G? Can any supplement match its efficacy and potency? Please comment with specific results if any!

[Cyberia]

I've just finished Mitotropin and it works well, but i would like to continue on my cut, is it safe to take Reduction right after Mitotropin?

[iHUNGRY]

I've always used a diuretic fat burner to cut for summer cause when it comes to bringing out vascularity there's not only fat to lose but water as well.

And then i'll usually stack that with some kind of natural metabolic booster like NLN T3 and sometimes a nighttime fat burner that promotes REM sleep for optimum hormone production. a good stack usually only runs me $100

[Wizzly]

I was thinking about taking a fat burner. I bought SUb-Q awhile ago but havent started using it. I was wandering if I should take creatine (purple K) with it too or lay off it.

[iHUNGRY]

only if it's kre-alyk or creatine ethyl ester, otherwise you'll bloat. i'm not sure about the specifics of your product, is it kre alk or CEE?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

whats this stack GM, WF, PW...i have been taking a fat burner but after its done looking to go back to put on some muscle have just been doing cardio and body weight stuff do to the lack of a gym membership which will be back next week or so, thinking wf is white flood and pw is purple wrath
green magnitude, white flood and purple wraath. its an excellent stack on a cut or a bulk

I've just finished Mitotropin and it works well, but i would like to continue on my cut, is it safe to take Reduction right after Mitotropin?

sure thing.

[RangersReign]

I've just finished Mitotropin and it works well, but i would like to continue on my cut, is it safe to take Reduction right after Mitotropin?

Anyone know how much caffeine more or less (in mgs) is in Mitotropin? I was on Arson for a while, and just found it to be crazy in terms of the caffeine, way too much of a drop off after it wore off, and way too much in terms of making me not able to stay still... Is it the same deal for Mito? Thanks for any help.

[pmpnballer0311]

I read that while on fat burners you can feel tightness in the chest area...I am currently on REDuction and I have tightness in the chest area when I workout...any reccomendations?

[Psylence]

I read that while on fat burners you can feel tightness in the chest area...I am currently on REDuction and I have tightness in the chest area when I workout...any reccomendations?

Chest pain is no joke although it's probably harmless you don't want to risk a cardiac problem.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I read that while on fat burners you can feel tightness in the chest area...I am currently on REDuction and I have tightness in the chest area when I workout...any reccomendations?

if its chest pain, its not from REDuction. a slight shortness of breath can be a side effect from GABA which is in it though, so its an important distinction to make.

if its only when you workout,t hen its probably related to muscle tightness from lifting heavy

[HULK81]

what do you guys think about MHP Dren? ive been reading up on different fat burners to use on my cut and REDuction seems to be popular, but i like the 1 a day convenience with Dren.

[pmpnballer0311]

Well I feel it a lot but mostly when I actually work the chest out like when I bench and stuff...but when I flex my chest I can feel it to

This is my second go around of REDuction and I got like 10 days left so I will just finish it off then lay of the fat burners for a month see if that helps

[CONTROLLED LABS]

what do you guys think about MHP Dren? ive been reading up on different fat burners to use on my cut and REDuction seems to be popular, but i like the 1 a day convenience with Dren.
REDuction is twice a day, but one is an am dose and one a pm, so you get a ton more benefit than just a stim once per day. also the PM portion can be purchased and used with any stim fat burner

Well I feel it a lot but mostly when I actually work the chest out like when I bench and stuff...but when I flex my chest I can feel it to

This is my second go around of REDuction and I got like 10 days left so I will just finish it off then lay of the fat burners for a month see if that helps
glad you are enjoying REDuction :)

[-=Zeus=-!]

Ive narrowed my choices down to two, MAN Scorch or Lean Xtreme. Suggestions?

[DavidGaudreau]

Well I just placed my order for the REDuction AM/PM, going to give it a shot for a month and see how much weight I can lose. Going to try 2-3 days 45min cardio, and 2-3 days weights high reps and finish with 15min light cardio on those days.


Let the melting begin........well......I Hope......

Current Weight 194 @ 5'6" 32 yrs old

[surfwmn7]

I actually came on here almost a month ago to look for a great fat burner. I started reading the posts about REDuction and figured I'd give it a try. I got it off of *** nutrition (saved a few dollars over bodybuilding.com). I bought the AM and PM pack.

I like it because I am not constantly popping pills. I do drink about a gallon (sometimes more of water a day) and if my commute was any longer in the morning, I think I would pee myself on the way to work (the morning pills works quickly). I also like that I am not jittery like I drank ten cans of red bull. I have not even begun to really exercise on the program and I have just been focusing on eating a better diet (low fat, low sugar and high fiber).

Since starting (I still have a bout five days in my first supply) I have lost 13 pounds. I am pretty happy with the results.

In the morning for breakfast I have a smoothie mixed with Dietex (protein powder). Does anyone know if it is bad to mix this with the REDuction?

Also I am nearing the end of my 30 day supply. Do I need to wait a week or ten days before I start my next 30 day supply of REDuction?

Does anyone know if there is a product by Controlled labs that is targeted for women only that works just as well as REDuction with minimal pill taking?

THX!

[greyzie]

ive been taking NCA 30+ for 4 days now, and im seeing a little bit of difference.
my main concern is my health, ive been told to cut out all fruit and veg, carbs and most of my sugar intake. and i feel incredibly week when the ephadrine runs out in them.

i am hardly eating anything, only protein such as steaks, eggs etc.. and only vegetables/fruit are tomatoes, lettuce, cabbage and the rest of the leafy family. one of my concerns are as im not eating any carbs, when i finish using the NCA's, will i put the weight back on straight away when i start eating normal again? and are the any health issues i should worry about.

[greyzie]

I come off my ECA stack and started on LIPO 6, ephadra free. would definately recommend them. Have you thought about the fat loss cream by NUTRASPORT? This is also a top choice in my book!

ive been taking NCA 30+ for 4 days now, and im seeing a little bit of difference.
my main concern is my health, ive been told to cut out all fruit and veg, carbs and most of my sugar intake. and i feel incredibly week when the ephadrine runs out in them.

i am hardly eating anything, only protein such as steaks, eggs etc.. and only vegetables/fruit are tomatoes, lettuce, cabbage and the rest of the leafy family. one of my concerns are as im not eating any carbs, when i finish using the NCA's, will i put the weight back on straight away when i start eating normal again? and are the any health issues i should worry about.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well I just placed my order for the REDuction AM/PM, going to give it a shot for a month and see how much weight I can lose. Going to try 2-3 days 45min cardio, and 2-3 days weights high reps and finish with 15min light cardio on those days.


Let the melting begin........well......I Hope......

Current Weight 194 @ 5'6" 32 yrs old
awesome, keep a log if you have the time

I actually came on here almost a month ago to look for a great fat burner. I started reading the posts about REDuction and figured I'd give it a try. I got it off of *** nutrition (saved a few dollars over bodybuilding.com). I bought the AM and PM pack.

I like it because I am not constantly popping pills. I do drink about a gallon (sometimes more of water a day) and if my commute was any longer in the morning, I think I would pee myself on the way to work (the morning pills works quickly). I also like that I am not jittery like I drank ten cans of red bull. I have not even begun to really exercise on the program and I have just been focusing on eating a better diet (low fat, low sugar and high fiber).

Since starting (I still have a bout five days in my first supply) I have lost 13 pounds. I am pretty happy with the results.

In the morning for breakfast I have a smoothie mixed with Dietex (protein powder). Does anyone know if it is bad to mix this with the REDuction?

Also I am nearing the end of my 30 day supply. Do I need to wait a week or ten days before I start my next 30 day supply of REDuction?

Does anyone know if there is a product by Controlled labs that is targeted for women only that works just as well as REDuction with minimal pill taking?

THX!
glad to hear it. REDuction can be taken by men and women, its great for both :)

[Nivea]

Just ran out of reduction and I can't find it anywhere once again. I loved that it didnt give me the slightest jittery feeling, but gave me an all day lasting energy and it also kept my weight stable. I will order it again as soon as I find it somewhere in Belgium.

I'm curious about that 'Slim Xtreme (SX) - Anabolic Extreme' now. I'm gonna try that first though, if I can find it somewhere. That 4 phase sounds a bit overkill, but I'll see if its worth it. (Whats next 16phase?:P)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just ran out of reduction and I can't find it anywhere once again. I loved that it didnt give me the slightest jittery feeling, but gave me an all day lasting energy and it also kept my weight stable. I will order it again as soon as I find it somewhere in Belgium.



REDuction should be available everywhere as we have shipped it recently (you can always get it from bb.com)

[YoungEx20]

only if it's kre-alyk or creatine ethyl ester, otherwise you'll bloat. i'm not sure about the specifics of your product, is it kre alk or CEE?

So regular creatine makes everybody bloat?

[370zya]

I am currently taking GNC's AM Wheyabolic 60, NO Explode and Monohydrate Creatine.
I work out 6 days a week and was told that a good fatburner may help me get ripped a little faster, which is why I am intersted in REDuction. I have searched for reviews but havent heard anything about the product other then this forum.

Can you take REDuction and NO Explode without wigging out? Do you need to wait hours after takin REDuction AM to work out and use NO Explode?

I heard this combination can be lethal, any truth to that? I think i even heard someone on the forum hasen't been the same after taking this combination.


thanks

[AlphaBrass01]

You can take both, but I would spread them out by at least 4 hours (the AM pill, of course) or so. It shouldn't be an issue unless you work out in the morning.

[ArminVR6]

So i have the right nutrition and workout plan. I'm looking to get some fat burning supplements and read a lot about REDuction. I'm 19, 195 lbs now and want to get down to 175. Would REDuction definitely help me get down into that direction or are there other brands I should look at.

Thanks

[370zya]

I was also just told on the bb irc chat room that taking reduction with whey protain, creatine and no explode will waste the other supplements as reduction reduces muscle gains. And that it would be better to take reduction when cylcing off NO Explode and Criatine. Is there any truth to that?

I am interested in taking a fat burner but I don't want to sacrifice muscle gain, just want to shred the fat.


Please advice! :(

[rdelgadillo56]

i wanna take a fat burner but also want an energy boost before i work out..
can i take hydroxycut hardcore along with something like... white flood or superpump?

[cruz02148]

does taking a stimulant free fat burner affect your ability to gain muscle ?

thanks

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I am currently taking GNC's AM Wheyabolic 60, NO Explode and Monohydrate Creatine.
I work out 6 days a week and was told that a good fatburner may help me get ripped a little faster, which is why I am intersted in REDuction. I have searched for reviews but havent heard anything about the product other then this forum.

Can you take REDuction and NO Explode without wigging out? Do you need to wait hours after takin REDuction AM to work out and use NO Explode?

I heard this combination can be lethal, any truth to that? I think i even heard someone on the forum hasen't been the same after taking this combination.


thanks
sure, just spread out the AM dose from no xplode by at least 4 hours. if need be you can take the am dose later in the day as long as its not within6 hours of bedtime

So i have the right nutrition and workout plan. I'm looking to get some fat burning supplements and read a lot about REDuction. I'm 19, 195 lbs now and want to get down to 175. Would REDuction definitely help me get down into that direction or are there other brands I should look at.

Thanks
sure, REDuction would be an excellent choice in your scenario

I was also just told on the bb irc chat room that taking reduction with whey protain, creatine and no explode will waste the other supplements as reduction reduces muscle gains. And that it would be better to take reduction when cylcing off NO Explode and Criatine. Is there any truth to that?

I am interested in taking a fat burner but I don't want to sacrifice muscle gain, just want to shred the fat.


Please advice! :(
that is not correct. as long as your cutting, REDuction would be a great option

i wanna take a fat burner but also want an energy boost before i work out..
can i take hydroxycut hardcore along with something like... white flood or superpump?

sure, just make sure to space out the doses by at least 4-5 hours

[greyzie]

sure, just spread out the AM dose from no xplode by at least 4 hours. if need be you can take the am dose later in the day as long as its not within6 hours of bedtime

sure, REDuction would be an excellent choice in your scenario

that is not correct. as long as your cutting, REDuction would be a great option


sure, just make sure to space out the doses by at least 4-5 hours

im currently taking ECA30+ fat burner... ive lost 10 lbs in 1 week, im just wondering was that due to atkins+fatburner burning fat? or is it burning away muscle...

[toRin]

Catalyst from Advocare... It sheilds your muscles from the body using them for energy and it pulls the fat for energy... Plus I can trust its completly safe..
https://www.advocare.com/09045164/Store/ItemDetail.aspx?itemCode=T2010&id=A
https://www.advocare.com/09045164/Products/SciMed/default.aspx

[bjjbadboy]

i used to take mhp trac which is a lite creatine and used a fatburner in the am, thing is fatburners have a diretic effect and no's and creatine retain water. I personally would not mix to many supps might as well juice....i use my no's and creatine w/ very clean diet then 7 days off then fat burner to cut the last few pounds....

[Nivea]

3rd day on SlimXtreme and I gotta say, I have never had my appetite under control this much, ever (even after I eat something, which has always caused my appetite to get out of control after a while). Usually around this time my hunger gets out of control.

But I really hope it does more then just that though. I'll see by the end of the week.

[DGreekStallion]

3rd day on SlimXtreme and I gotta say, I have never had my appetite under control this much, ever (even after I eat something, which has always caused my appetite to get out of control after a while). Usually around this time my hunger gets out of control.

But I really hope it does more then just that though. I'll see by the end of the week.

I took it for one day and wow...I was not hungry. This is coming from the guy who is hungry 24/7/365.

[joshy22]

Yeah I have been taking it for a few weeks now. Its the best thing I have ever taken and I tried EVERYTHING including ECA. I would have to say that there is nothing on the market that provides good clean focused energy and appetite suppression like this product. You don't feel like you are on a fatburner but it works!!! I'm surprised that this forum doesn't have any Anabolic Extreme reps talking about the product although truthfully the product speaks for itself it needs no hype. It puts all the other products to shame!

[Nivea]

I took it for one day and wow...I was not hungry. This is coming from the guy who is hungry 24/7/365.

Its incredible, I've lost 3kg in a week and my appetite is still totally under controle. I'm just 2.5kgs away from my goal, 85kg.

Anyway I don't know why, maybe its the weather thats gotten a bit more moist and hot or maybe its because I'm out of CL Reduction. But I've been quiet low on energy (even on a day, when I don't exercise), I haven't been able to sleep properly at all and (probably because of those) I've also been quiet jittery. (Although I think it will go away once I sleep properly, but hows that gonna happen?)

[pauljhii]

im a little chubby and i need to loose some extra pounds. my exercise and diet are in check so im looking for a little help. so whats the best stack? should i stack a thermogenic fat burner and a stimulant-free fat burner together? if so, which ones. thanks a bunch

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Its incredible, I've lost 3kg in a week and my appetite is still totally under controle. I'm just 2.5kgs away from my goal, 85kg.

Anyway I don't know why, maybe its the weather thats gotten a bit more moist and hot or maybe its because I'm out of CL Reduction. But I've been quiet low on energy (even on a day, when I don't exercise), I haven't been able to sleep properly at all and (probably because of those) I've also been quiet jittery. (Although I think it will go away once I sleep properly, but hows that gonna happen?)

simple solution, get more REDuction asap :D

[Nivea]

simple solution, get more REDuction asap :D

I'm gonna take that when I go on vacation, so I got energy all the time and my weight stays pretty much in balance, without the slightest 'jittery' effect.

You guys should really find out about the stuff in SlimXtreme that keeps the appetite under control. Because seriously, thats really the key to lose weight. And you should also add carnitrine.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm gonna take that when I go on vacation, so I got energy all the time and my weight stays pretty much in balance, without the slightest 'jittery' effect.

You guys should really find out about the stuff in SlimXtreme that keeps the appetite under control. Because seriously, thats really the key to lose weight. And you should also add carnitrine.

they both have cha de bugre for appetite.

glad you are jumping back on REDuction again soon.

[Nivea]

they both have cha de bugre for appetite.

glad you are jumping back on REDuction again soon.


I'll be using both actually, SlimXtreme is the one to lose weight (but unfortunatly also sleep:p), so I'll still be using it from time to time. Reduction is appearantly no longer working for me to lose weight, just keeping weight in balance, but also giving great energy and most importantly a good night sleep.

[DNRCMO]

I'm currently taking Cuts and am in my final week. I've noticed decent results, definitely more definition around the areas that my fat stores are not soooo thick. Chest and arms look great (in my opinion). However, the blubber around the midsection is yet to completely disappear. I'm definitely closer to my goal but not all the way there. Diet is great (trying to figure out the carbs stuff), still searching for more info.

My main question has anybody tried Scivation's new version of Dialene?? Now Dialene 4x!! Any news?

Thanx!

[Etherealm]

I'll be using both actually, SlimXtreme is the one to lose weight (but unfortunatly also sleep:p), so I'll still be using it from time to time. Reduction is appearantly no longer working for me to lose weight, just keeping weight in balance, but also giving great energy and most importantly a good night sleep.

I had sleeping problems too when I started on this. The first 2 days were hell, no sleep at all, 50 hours straight up. Turns out it was the pot of coffee I was taking every morning. Now, my body seems to have gotten used to it and even the appetite control part seems to be gone. It's a great product though, shed fat and weight in no time while keeping muscles. I also run about 40-50km a week (split on 4 days) and haven't had any problem with muscle loss.

[robfromsc]

Can I get a laymn's term answer to what is the diffrence between stimulant x and slim xtreme I'm about to start a cutting stack and having a hard time choosing between the two.

[dh_biker]

I'm currently taking Cuts and am in my final week. I've noticed decent results, definitely more definition around the areas that my fat stores are not soooo thick. Chest and arms look great (in my opinion). However, the blubber around the midsection is yet to completely disappear. I'm definitely closer to my goal but not all the way there. Diet is great (trying to figure out the carbs stuff), still searching for more info.

My main question has anybody tried Scivation's new version of Dialene?? Now Dialene 4x!! Any news?

Thanx!

i had the same problem. not matter what burner i used i still had that midsection fat. i tried sub q which is suppose to be a subcutaneous fat burner. i had good results with that. im pleased. i did however jump around and skip a few days here and there and never had my diet down to a t but with a little exercise i think it worked well.
i had noticeable results

[DNRCMO]

i had the same problem. not matter what burner i used i still had that midsection fat. i tried sub q which is suppose to be a subcutaneous fat burner. i had good results with that. im pleased. i did however jump around and skip a few days here and there and never had my diet down to a t but with a little exercise i think it worked well.
i had noticeable results

Thanx much for the info...I'll definitely look into that one...!!!!!

[Nivea]

3rd day on SlimXtreme and I gotta say, I have never had my appetite under control this much, ever (even after I eat something, which has always caused my appetite to get out of control after a while). Usually around this time my hunger gets out of control.

But I really hope it does more then just that though. I'll see by the end of the week.



i took it for one day and wow...i was not hungry. This is coming from the guy who is hungry 24/7/365.



its incredible, i've lost 3kg in a week and my appetite is still totally under controle. I'm just 2.5kgs away from my goal, 85kg.

And I just did it, after years of trying, I just really did it! I finally reached 85kg :D

SlimXtreme really is f*ckin extreme :D :D :D

When I was ordering it, I had my doubts if it was really worth all that money, because it only had 45 capsules. And when I opened the bottle, I also noticed the capsules were smaller then any other fat loss capsule. So I wasn't expecting much results..
But, all of those doubts... are now gone :D 1 little magic 'SlimXtreme' capsule is enough for 2 days of perfect appetite control (appetite switches on when you're about to eat and off immediatly after you stop lol) and weight loss for me. :D

Anyway, I just wish it didn't make me jittery sometimes, that I could sleep easier and have high energy all day long (like CL Reduction)


This stuff is scary good. I hope it's not harmful to people's health though.. I surely won't be using it regularly or together with any product. CL Reduction is still my favorite for regular use. I recommend that one for people who don't need or want sleep/energy disturbance, but a normal and quiet effective weight loss product with supercool night pills too :D. SlimXtreme is to lose huge amounts or when Reduction gets stuck.

This is it for me. I found what I was looking for thx to this forum.

CL Reduction & SlimXtreme. They can have the rest :D

[CONTROLLED LABS]

CL Reduction is still my favorite for regular use. I recommend that one for people who don't need or want sleep/energy disturbance, but a normal and quiet effective weight loss product with supercool night pills too :D.

glad to hear it. REDuction is a very unique formula and a great value :)

[HULK81]

glad to hear it. REDuction is a very unique formula and a great value :)

hey just a quick question... im a cut right now and decided to get neogenix supremacy, how would this stack with Reduction? Is it overkill?

My second option was maybe just get the reduction PM with supremacy?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

hey just a quick question... im a cut right now and decided to get neogenix supremacy, how would this stack with Reduction? Is it overkill?

My second option was maybe just get the reduction PM with supremacy?

there is no reason you cant take them together, there is no overlap.

[arshah]

anyone have any feedback on lipo 6 black, i'm looking into getting this soon, but just wanted some reviews of it

[Nivea]

Prepare for some non stop jitteriness and sleepless nights. (I had the most extreme jitteriness with them)
I suggest you try reduction, to try and lose fat/weight the easy way. It's as effective as lipo 6 x without the unnecessary side effects.
If that doesn't work, SlimXtreme is ready to bomb out the fat the hard way. you gotta prepare for the sleepless nights though :D

[DNRCMO]

Finished my bottle of Animal Cuts last week. Just finished a week off and am starting Dialene 4x! Cuts was great. The pills, though many, were relatively small so swallowing all of them was not difficult. I was able to take all the little pills at the same time. Overall I lost 7.5 pounds on the 3 weeks and definition in my arms was greater. I would probably recommend Cuts for someone a little closer to their desired weight. That way you get the benefit of definition all over. All in all, very good product, would purchase again!!!

I'll leave a post as I go along with Dialene 4x!!

[HotMixed]

Which one is better?

Stacker 3 or Slim Xtreme or Reduction?

[vinhdiezel]

I would recommend Slim Xtreme...I've taken VPX Redline and Lipo 6X before and nothing gives me the clean energy and appetite control like SX.

[naturalguy]

New, more powerful Animal Cuts

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117545671

[Country Mike]

New, more powerful Animal Cuts

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117545671Very Very Nice!!!!!!

[Bearster18]

It sounds like the 15th I'll be ordering me some Animal cuts!!

[naturalguy]

Very Very Nice!!!!!!

Right on. We really did a great job with the new Animal Cuts. We are known for having very effective formulas so our standards are high when we come out with something new. This one has been in the works for some time and just to be sure we tested it on actual bodybuilders in the real world. The average user lost 9.18 pounds:

http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=444

I really like the formula on this one as it attacks fat loss from many different pathways.

[SportPharmaRep]

Right on. We really did a great job with the new Animal Cuts. We are known for having very effective formulas so our standards are high when we come out with something new. This one has been in the works for some time and just to be sure we tested it on actual bodybuilders in the real world. The average user lost 9.18 pounds:

http://animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=444

I really like the formula on this one as it attacks fat loss from many different pathways.

Nice NG! Good to see a new Cuts formula out there. The original was good stuff so I can imagine how good this one is too. Hey, do you know if people could stack Thermadrene along with the new Cuts? When I was at the FORVM someone had asked me this and I didn't know if that's possible. Thanks NG.

[azIce]

I've got to try that Animal Cuts. Looks awesome!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

for those unaware there are free sample of REDuction via bb.com's store as well as direct (see the link in my signature for details)

[Justin23454]

Well, Ive been taking Lipo6x For about 4 days now, and it really does nothing, other then maybe not make me as hungry. Ill probly just stick with Ephedra + caff.

[naturalguy]

Nice NG! Good to see a new Cuts formula out there. The original was good stuff so I can imagine how good this one is too. Hey, do you know if people could stack Thermadrene along with the new Cuts? When I was at the FORVM someone had asked me this and I didn't know if that's possible. Thanks NG.

In theory you could stack them keeping in mind that both have stims and you don't want to overdo it. One of the great things about the new Animal Cuts is the flexibility to leave out the stims (in a single red pill). You could do a pack of Animal Cuts in the a.m. and a serving of Thermadrene in the afternoon if you wanted. I think a better way to do it however is to run a cycle of Animal Cuts and then you could switch to Thermadrene after.

[ccameron2]

First, get off Cell-Tech if your looking to shed some pounds. It has a ton of sugar and the creatine will keep water weight. Stick with vapor if you like that for pre workout or any other pre-workout supp. DIET and CARDIO is the two most important things when trying to look lean. As far as supp timing I think you should take cuts in the AM right away and then if you workout at 4 i would take cuts at 230 3:00ish and stak 20min pre workout. Just my opinion i have taken both also.

Not only does the creatine cause water to be stored within the muscles, it has been proven in clinical studies that creatine actually slows down fat loss.

[B Con]

I've got to try that Animal Cuts. Looks awesome!

Here's your chance:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117546691

[Bearster18]

Not only does the creatine cause water to be stored within the muscles, it has been proven in clinical studies that creatine actually slows down fat loss.

Is this true? I'm on Green mag and I was curious about this. I've noticed that I haven't lost much fat in the last few months since I've started GM.

[garrettadamsmith]

is it possible to stack these 2 together? because i was told you dont have to cycle off the green mag would you still get good results off the animal cuts if you took them both? and if so when can we order the new animal cuts on bb.com

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Is this true? I'm on Green mag and I was curious about this. I've noticed that I haven't lost much fat in the last few months since I've started GM.
I have never seen anything suggesting that to be true at all.

is it possible to stack these 2 together? because i was told you dont have to cycle off the green mag would you still get good results off the animal cuts if you took them both? and if so when can we order the new animal cuts on bb.comsure thing, although many stack REDuction with green mag on a cut.

yes, the results would still be good with them combined

[Danzavier]

I plan on trying D4 soon...ill keep an update available

[hooligan2oo9]

I have been reading the last few days about stackers 2 and 4 but still cant find the awnser im looking for, and if im wrong can someone please correct me.

Heared Stacker's 2 is one of the best fat loss supplement but then it says for something stronger look at stackers 4.

as i have never taking them before i was wondering which is the best.

thanks alot

[naturalguy]

is it possible to stack these 2 together? because i was told you dont have to cycle off the green mag would you still get good results off the animal cuts if you took them both? and if so when can we order the new animal cuts on bb.com

You can stack them together.


The new Animal Cuts is officially shipping from corporate today 7/15, it will take a little time for BB.com to get it and put it up on the site, also we don't know how much inventory they have of the previous formula.

[Dibatista]

Which one is better?
https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif
Stacker 3 or Slim Xtreme or Reduction?

My buddy has been using REduction and seeing some pretty good results... can't really speak for the other 2 products though.

[sobelifelover]

Has anyone tried USP Labs Recreate, VPX Meltdown, or GN Mitotropin? What were your results? Do you think they're good products or would you recommend something else? I couldn't find much in this thread about any of them but they all seem to have pretty good reviews in the supps section.
Please PM me with any feedback!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

My buddy has been using REduction and seeing some pretty good results...

awesome. is he on this forum? have you ever though about giving it a shot yourself?

[Bearster18]

I wish I knew why reduction gave me a damn headache

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I wish I knew why reduction gave me a damn headache

do you get headaches from caffeine?

[Bearster18]

nope. I loved Reduction except for that problem and thats it.

[jeremyleinen]

After running Dicana, SubQ, and then Mitotropin... my vote goes to Dicana.

[Come at me bro]

I really liked lipo6x and im looking foward to trying lipo6 black and maybe betastax or mitoprin

[Invictus_Nth]

I reviewed the past couple of pages, and didnt see anyone ask the following questions - however if I *am* repeating this question, I apologize....

I have pretty aggressive gastrointestinel issues that I have to be cognizant of regarding taking new supps. And in addition to losing weight, I'd really like to take a fat burner to boost my energy level during my workouts. Since I've been eating more clean, my energy level has been dragginh and its impacting my workouts. But my concern with a FB is taking something that will cause, well...diarrhea.

Is there a fat burner anyone's taken that they feel avoided that issue for them? Or on the flip side, is there a supp anyone took that made them do just that?

Sorry for the grossness of the question - but I don't want to end up taking something that will cause me to be locked in the BR.

Thanks in advance for any insight!

[james12345]

has anyone tried or heard anything about Precision Engineered FIREBALL liqui-fusion diet pills??!? many say it is the same as hydroxycut hardcore but with hoodia. If not what pill can be better than this one

ya, im on them right now, but you have to do it right, you have to go on a sport multi vitamin, fish oil, and protein, i find the pills work great i have been on them for 2 weeks now and no side effects and i am burning fat and building muscle.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

nope. I loved Reduction except for that problem and thats it.

do you get them from spicy foods or Cayenne?

[irboreddd]

I'm currently going to stop using REDuction. It actually kept me awake both times when I used it. For around 3 hours.

[Bearster18]

do you get them from spicy foods or Cayenne?

no to both of those. It usually wasn't a headache per say but it was just like added pressure in my head.

[littlrook]

alot of people like our PhenomV1. it isn't very stimmy but it works great. the appetite suppression is second to none. not to mention it makes you sweat the weight off

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm currently going to stop using REDuction. It actually kept me awake both times when I used it. For around 3 hours.

take the PM dose before dinner instead of before bed then

[irboreddd]

But is there any reason for it to be keeping me awake? It doesn't contain any caffeine like ingredients in the PM dosage correct?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

But is there any reason for it to be keeping me awake? It doesn't contain any caffeine like ingredients in the PM dosage correct?

possibly a reaction to GABA, pre dinner is a good time as well

[dschare]

I'm using ripped fuel 5x. it doesn't upset my stomach, or make me jittery, but I get a6-8 hour energy boost from it still. 1 or 2 tabs a day and I'm fine all day, work outs are more focused as well.












I reviewed the past couple of pages, and didnt see anyone ask the following questions - however if I *am* repeating this question, I apologize....

I have pretty aggressive gastrointestinel issues that I have to be cognizant of regarding taking new supps. And in addition to losing weight, I'd really like to take a fat burner to boost my energy level during my workouts. Since I've been eating more clean, my energy level has been dragginh and its impacting my workouts. But my concern with a FB is taking something that will cause, well...diarrhea.

Is there a fat burner anyone's taken that they feel avoided that issue for them? Or on the flip side, is there a supp anyone took that made them do just that?

Sorry for the grossness of the question - but I don't want to end up taking something that will cause me to be locked in the BR.

Thanks in advance for any insight!

[jiggad369]

Hey guys,

I'm new here but I felt like I should join the community sooner or later! :D

I'm in need of some adivce.

I'm currently on the GBC workout program. Supplements I'm taking are:

Swanson Vitamins HCL
Swanson Vitamins Malic Acid
Swanson Vitamins Multi Vitamins
Swanson Vitamins Alpha Liopic Acid
All the Whey WPI

I'm indecisive between SlimXtreme and Animal Cuts for assisting with some stubborn fat loss and expose the lean muscle I've been killing myself for for the past two months. :D

I plan on stacking that with the above items as well as CL White Flood and REDuction PM.

Could you guys help me decide between SlimX or AC. Also if it's not much of a hassle, when and how much I should take of either, White Flood, and RED PM.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[Goku559]

Needs some help finding a fat burner that will fit my needs.

This is what i have tried
Slim Xtreme: A little too extreme for me, had hard time breathing.

Lipo6: Works only for 1 week then my body adjusts to it and have to take too much of it to feel anything.

Im looking for something that will not affect my sleep too much, most importantly my mind and my breathing. Looking for something that will give me energy aswell.

While taking a break from fat burners all i consume is caffiene pills which gives me no energy since my body probably has adapted to it.

Anything else left?

[irboreddd]

possibly a reaction to GABA, pre dinner is a good time as well

I trust your advice, but don't know if I want to take it again. I'm currently stacking White Flood, Green Mag, and Purple Wrath and thought it would be good to add in REDuction. It DOES work for shedding off some unwanted fat, but the headache I got for not getting enough sleep from the REDuction wasn't doing it for me.

I might give it another go next spring when I want to lean up a bit for summer. In other news, I'm loving the other CL products especially the Green Mag.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Hey guys,

I'm new here but I felt like I should join the community sooner or later! :D

I'm in need of some adivce.

I'm currently on the GBC workout program. Supplements I'm taking are:

Swanson Vitamins HCL
Swanson Vitamins Malic Acid
Swanson Vitamins Multi Vitamins
Swanson Vitamins Alpha Liopic Acid
All the Whey WPI

I'm indecisive between SlimXtreme and Animal Cuts for assisting with some stubborn fat loss and expose the lean muscle I've been killing myself for for the past two months. :D

I plan on stacking that with the above items as well as CL White Flood and REDuction PM.

Could you guys help me decide between SlimX or AC. Also if it's not much of a hassle, when and how much I should take of either, White Flood, and RED PM.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
good stack, but if you are taking white flood go for a product like REDuction A/PM since there is only 1 dose of stims in it as opposed to other fat burners which are typically 2-3

I trust your advice, but don't know if I want to take it again. I'm currently stacking White Flood, Green Mag, and Purple Wrath and thought it would be good to add in REDuction. It DOES work for shedding off some unwanted fat, but the headache I got for not getting enough sleep from the REDuction wasn't doing it for me.

I might give it another go next spring when I want to lean up a bit for summer. In other news, I'm loving the other CL products especially the Green Mag.

if you take it before dinner you wont have issues sleeping. try it on a weekend if you need to.

[tyronehubbard]

I have taken BSN Atrophex but didn't really notice anything. I've been seeing a lot of ads for Lipo 6x. Can anyone give me any advice on whether Lipo 6x is a good one to get on? Any advice on which would be a good one to get on?

[ZetaWill]

I have taken BSN Atrophex but didn't really notice anything. I've been seeing a lot of ads for Lipo 6x. Can anyone give me any advice on whether Lipo 6x is a good one to get on? Any advice on which would be a good one to get on?

Get Hyperdrive 3.0 (formerly called Venom) from ****!

Best one out there....most of these yahoo's on here are product reps. Arthur (owner of ****) is a stand up guy and takes his own advice. Do some research on the company and you'll see what I'm talking about!

[paganman]

Here is my experience with Lipo 6X Black (I'm a sucker for new products):

Appetite suppression-10+ (off the charts!):
Only for the first week, however. This one is a bit bizarre. I still felt hungry, but was satisfied with less food. As soon as I started eating, I instantly felt full. Consequently, I ate much less food. This effect, however, wore off after the first week.

Energy- 8.5:
Again, only for the first week. About 20 minutes after a dose, I began to feel a bit jittery. It was very subtle, just enough to know that the supplement was eliciting a physiologic response, and not at all distracting. My resting HR never increased (a solid 72), so I was pleased that this supplement did not cause my heart to race (like Hydroxycut). However, when taken before a workout, the energy was crazy. During a cardio session, my HR was 145, and I was just barely noticeably winded. Lipo 6X Black is actually the best pre-workout supplement I've ever taken (excluding White Flood, of course) Sadly, this effect also ended after 1 week.

Fat Burning-2:
I noticed no thermogenic response, and I'm convinced that this supplement is totally ineffective at burning fat.

Overall Impressions:
I took Lipo 6X Black as instructed, the full 6 pills per day dose from the very beginning. My workout is solid, and my diet is decent. I lost 3.5 pounds the first week, then not a single pound in the subsequent 3 weeks. The first week fat loss was principally due to my lack of hunger. My recommendation: save your money.

[DNRCMO]

Needs some help finding a fat burner that will fit my needs.

This is what i have tried
Slim Xtreme: A little too extreme for me, had hard time breathing.

Lipo6: Works only for 1 week then my body adjusts to it and have to take too much of it to feel anything.

Im looking for something that will not affect my sleep too much, most importantly my mind and my breathing. Looking for something that will give me energy aswell.

While taking a break from fat burners all i consume is caffiene pills which gives me no energy since my body probably has adapted to it.

Anything else left?


I tried Dialene 4x and had good results. I had to stop because I got headaches. Could be my fault since I didn't really take any time off between switching to different fat burners. It really did the trick for me and I lost about 8 pounds on it for taking almost 3/4 of the pills. I really liked it effects but am not sure if it caused my headaches in the gym or if it was me. I will hit the gym again soon and I will no soon enough.

[orasis1]

Meta Slim

It's not a very advertised product and it's rather cheap - It does the job, does not keep me up.. strong on the stomach though especially in the morning!

As for an energy boost.. um, I haven't noticed much of an energy boost.. but then again I'm a guy who is used to drinking almost 10 cups of coffee per day.. my nerves laugh at stimulants.

[adreeves07]

Just started taking REDuction AM/PM...Man, I sleep better, have more energy throughout the day and my weight lost just took off. I started taking it 2 weeks ago, I added a mile jog plus the supps, I've lost 8 pounds in two weeks.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just started taking REDuction AM/PM...Man, I sleep better, have more energy throughout the day and my weight lost just took off. I started taking it 2 weeks ago, I added a mile jog plus the supps, I've lost 8 pounds in two weeks.

very nice, seems like its working exactly as it should. keep us updated when you hit the 4 week mark :)

[Gavin046]

has anyone tried or heard anything about Precision Engineered FIREBALL liqui-fusion diet pills??!? many say it is the same as hydroxycut hardcore but with hoodia. If not what pill can be better than this one

Fireball liqui-fusion is a real booster! I just started taking it 2 days ago and man does it wake you up to say the least!! I take 3 pills in the morning like suggested and that seems to be too much! YOU HAVE TO EAT SOMETHING WHEN TAKING THIS OR YOUR GONNA BE SICK! Good stuff but follow the directions for sure!!!
If your starting this product, My personal suggestion is NOT to take 3 pills the first time out, reason being that "with food. Big Breakfast" it kicks in quick, it made me feel very uneasy for the first 2 hrs. then it died down. died down meaning I still felt alert but not jumpy alert. I would suggest that you start of with 1 pill twice a day and see how your PERSONAL BODY REACTION IS AND JUDGE FROM THERE! as for me. 2 pills a day 4 to 6 hrs. apart works good. Also remember to DRINK LOTS OF WATER and EAT QUALITY FOODS!! nothing with caffine or any other boosters.

Tomorrow I'm going to monitor my HR and see how much of a jump I have after taking 1 pill like I suggested.

[MariaCL]

which would you suggest to be the strongest fat burner, mitotropin, slim xtreme, or Reduction? i seem to have a high tolerance to stims (even when i cycle off of them). thanks!

[BiggJohn]

which would you suggest to be the strongest fat burner, mitotropin, slim xtreme, or Reduction? i seem to have a high tolerance to stims (even when i cycle off of them). thanks!

Haven't used Reduction, but I do have experience with the other two. SX and mito are very different, with mito being more of a pure fat burner and SX a pure stimulant. I desensitized to SX fairly quickly so Mito would be my recommendation.

[Dibatista]

I wish I knew why reduction gave me a damn headachehttps://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

The first few times i used it i got a headache as well, but after the first few times i never got the headaches again... could have been completely unrelated is my only guess.

[Danzavier]

Been using it for 3 weeks now! great energy. slimming down.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

which would you suggest to be the strongest fat burner, mitotropin, slim xtreme, or Reduction? i seem to have a high tolerance to stims (even when i cycle off of them). thanks!

I think you will enjoy REDuction, its not solely a stim product and the PM doesnt even have stims in it, so you will notice some good results

[maris09]

8 days into Mitotropin...not feeling much of anything except increased sweating during workouts. My stomach has also been pretty upset while on it (with a clean diet) so I may be stopping it soon even though I've dropped a few lbs.

Compared with Reduction and Mitotropin, Cuts seems to be the only stim to make me "feel" anything although I dropped weight with them all.

[hookemsneed]

If you had to pick just ONE ephedra-free fat burning product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take fat burners, if you should take fat burners, or why some fat burners are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite fat burning product and give your detailed reason.)

With out a doubt the best on the market is Nutrex Lipo 6x! You can not dispute the results from the masses. I have tried almost every thermogenic fat burner out there. All fail in comparison to Nutrex Lipo 6x. The best advantages to me is there is not extreme highs and lows. You never get too amped, it is just a smooth burn all day long. I recommend this product to everyone that asks!!

[Boris_VTR]

Not only does the creatine cause water to be stored within the muscles, it has been proven in clinical studies that creatine actually slows down fat loss.

Muscle & fitness magazine had column about creatine and they say that clincal studies shows that creatine made metabolism faster and it helped with losing fat.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

8 days into Mitotropin...not feeling much of anything except increased sweating during workouts. My stomach has also been pretty upset while on it (with a clean diet) so I may be stopping it soon even though I've dropped a few lbs.

Compared with Reduction and Mitotropin, Cuts seems to be the only stim to make me "feel" anything although I dropped weight with them all.

REDuction is pretty low on the stim side, but accomplishes the goal without making you feel like your high ;)

[paganman]

Has anyone tried GAT's jetFUEL? I'm getting desperate to lose these last 15 pounds. I've tried:

Lipo 6 (4/10)
Lipo 6X (2/10)
Lipo 6 Black (3/10)
Hydroxycut (3/10)
REDuction (7/10)
Ripped Fuel (1/10)
Ripped Fuel with ephedra (7/10)

[DNRCMO]

Has anyone tried GAT's jetFUEL? I'm getting desperate to lose these last 15 pounds. I've tried:

Lipo 6 (4/10)
Lipo 6X (2/10)
Lipo 6 Black (3/10)
Hydroxycut (3/10)
REDuction (7/10)
Ripped Fuel (1/10)
Ripped Fuel with ephedra (7/10)

I have not tried that. However, I have tried Dialene 4x (got headaches, may or not be related to Dialene) and I also tried Animal Cuts. Both worked well!! I would recommend both of those. Cuts is nice because you can remove the stims if you don't want to take them (I believe the red pill). Just my two cents.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Has anyone tried GAT's jetFUEL? I'm getting desperate to lose these last 15 pounds. I've tried:

Lipo 6 (4/10)
Lipo 6X (2/10)
Lipo 6 Black (3/10)
Hydroxycut (3/10)
REDuction (7/10)
Ripped Fuel (1/10)
Ripped Fuel with ephedra (7/10)

glad you liked REDuction the best and that it compares to a product with ephedra in it is amazing :)

[genaden]

Gotta love the product rep answers to everything "buy my product it really works!"

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Gotta love the product rep answers to everything "buy my product it really works!"
not sure if you are talking to me (but since my post is above yours, I will assume so), but I never once said that at all. ;)

[joshivivek]

Gotta love the product rep answers to everything "buy my product it really works!"

I agree, I have had it with these reps from companies with endless plugs in every other posts. I have used controlled labs in the past but I think I am going to ban from using their stuff if this keeps up.

[95zj]

I'm planning on stacking REDuction AM/PM with Species Nutrition Lipolyze. Anyone have any experience with the latter, or a similar stack?

[BullD]

I agree with you. It is difficult to ascertain if people are creating dummy profiles to promote particular products and to ask leading questions to generate interest about the product they are promoting. It just isn't necessary. In fact, I think it just confuses the consumers and ultimately delays the sales cycle. I think you can identify most of the bogus posts.

At this point I'm leaning toward USP labs Recreate, VPX Meltdown or Lipo 6x. I report back later with my 2 week results.

Make it a great day!

[thrashertm]

I would go with Lipo-6X. Got a month's supply and it helped me lose about 30lbs from August 1st to Sept 1st. Went from 250 to 219. This was with cardio only 2-3 times a week. The only bad thing I can say about it is that it kept me from falling asleep at night since I was taking it at 1:30-2 in the afternoon and trying to force myself to sleep at 11. Taking it earlier in the day would have definitely helped with that. During August, I was working full time and did not have time to run every day while working 60 hours a week. I started back at college in September, running 5-6 days a week for an hour a day.

I did try Reduction for September and October. I lost another 19 lbs over the course of September/October and plateued at 200 during October. I didn't FEEL Reduction at all, whereas Lipo gave me a great euphoric feeling throughout the day, reduced appetite, etc. The PM formula for Reduction DID give me some awesome restful nights of sleep.

I'm on vaca right now in Florida until New Years. I've got another month's supply of Lipo6x waiting for me at home. I'll be working the month of January until I go back to school at the end of the month. With Lipo6x, cardio, and a controlled, consistent work schedule where I wake/sleep the same everyday, I hope to break the 200lb barrier for good (Been bouncing between 202 and 198) and get down to 190 or lower by the time I get back to school, and continue to cut down to 175-180.

Hopefully the Lipo6x can come through again. I've cycled off of everything since early November and have not gained anything back nor have I lost anything more since going off all supps.

Definitely give Lipo6x a try. It worked great for me, though Reduction may work better for you. What works well for some, won't always work well for others. My cousin broke out into hives after taking Lipo6x, whereas I did not. And we're blood relatives, so who knows.

3 days a week I wake up at 5:30 and immediately go to the gym. Start lifting at about 5:45. Lipo 6 mandates waiting 30 min before lifting. Do you think it will still be effective in this situation? The other 3 days a week, I work out later and can wait the required 30 min.

[thrashertm]

I'm about 163 now, at 5'11. I'm trying to get down to 145 or so (so I can show abs). I'm not real chunky - so what's the best fat burner option for me?

I'm leaning towards Lipo 6 at the moment.

Thanks!

[shawn3087]

try the new animal cuts formula
i tried the old one and was very good

[AnEn1gma]

not sure if you are talking to me (but since my post is above yours, I will assume so), but I never once said that at all. ;)

You're talking about two guys with a combined two posts. We appreciate your presence on the forum immensely

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm planning on stacking REDuction AM/PM with Species Nutrition Lipolyze. Anyone have any experience with the latter, or a similar stack?
try them both separately before attempting to stack the two

You're talking about two guys with a combined two posts. We appreciate your presence on the forum immensely

glad to hear it as we are here to help our customers first and foremost. :)

[joshy22]

I'm about 163 now, at 5'11. I'm trying to get down to 145 or so (so I can show abs). I'm not real chunky - so what's the best fat burner option for me?

I'm leaning towards Lipo 6 at the moment.

Thanks!

Hi. I'd go with the new BetaStax or SX (SlimExtreme) by Anabolic Xtreme based on personal results however be careful with SX its hardcore so read up on it before you try it.
I used the old animal cuts with nice results so the new one should be even better. Look in to that as well.

p.s. I have not tried the fat burned by controlled labs because the ridiculous amount of pimping that it has in these forums makes me almost certain that its crap and I hate companies that overpimp.

[thrashertm]

Hi. I'd go with the new BetaStax or SX (SlimExtreme) by Anabolic Xtreme based on personal results however be careful with SX its hardcore so read up on it before you try it.
I used the old animal cuts with nice results so the new one should be even better. Look in to that as well.

p.s. I have not tried the fat burned by controlled labs because the ridiculous amount of pimping that it has in these forums makes me almost certain that its crap and I hate companies that overpimp.

Thanks for the suggestion. I already ordered the Lipo 6, so I'll give it a try and report back. If it doesn't work, I may try SX since I'm hearing a lot of good things about it too.

[arch123]

Bit of advice please fellas....im currently using Maximuscle Thermobol, I cant post links but the ingredients is:

Per 1 capsule
Bitter Orange Peel (Citrus Aurantium) 325mg Vit B12 - Cyanocobalamin RDA - 20,000% 200?g
L-Tyrosine 300mg D-Biotin RDA -117% 180?g
Caffeine 153mg Chromium RDA (From Chromium Polynicotinate) 100?g
Green Tea extract(90% polyphenols) 100mg Capsaicin extract from Hot Cayenne pepper 120?g
Guarana seed power 12mg Vit B5 (D-Calcium Pantothenate) RDA - 500% 30mg
Bioperine? (Black pepper extract) 5mg Vit-B1 (Thiamin Hcl) RDA - 1786% 25mg

could anyone advise me whether I should or could stack another fat burner with the thermobol. If so which other fat burners would be safe to stack?
Thanks

[gregorystacey]

I started taking Geen Tea Extract (I would drink it but I only like black and orange tea) 1 pill two times a day and have already lost 4lb in just under 3 weeks. I have a set caloric intake and have trained 7 days a week for 6 years. I've weighed 195 like a rock for 1 year so any weight loss can only be atributed to the Green Tea Supplement. It's very inexpensive (about $10 for a couple month supply) at your local Walgreens/CVS/WalMart....and its good for you to boot!! Like I said I lift 4 days and run/swim 3 days a week so It's not like I'm sitting on a couch hoping to burn calories through a magic pill. Each pill has a moderate 50mg of caffiene so theres no "super buzz" followed by a crash. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Gregory Stacey