Cutting it up with: Anabolic Xtreme [Archive]

RaisingTheBar35

04-16-2007, 08:48 AM

For the next 3 months i will be cutting with AX's Ultimate Mass Stack

dosing schedule:
Hyperdrol X2
4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4
Mass Fx
2/3/4/4/4/0/0/2/3/4/4/4
Retain 2
1/2/2/2/3/3/3/3/2/2/2/1

I will be using a CKD training diet as follows
Mon - chest/back/abs
Tues - shoulders/bi's/tri's
Weds - HIIT cardio
Thurs - legs
Fri - Upperbody Depletion work out
Sat - Carb up
Sun - HIIT or rest

during the week i will keep my diet around 2500 calories with a macro breakdown around 70f/30p/0c and around 3k+ on the weekend for carb ups with at least 200grams of protein

About me -
i have been lifting heavily for about 2 years. I started going to the gym to loose weight when i was out of shape in highschool. I continued going because i liked to see the results that weight training gave me. Off and on i do MMA in addition to lifting. Here are some of the supplements ive used in the past:

GB/WB/GG/SG/RAG2/YN/PW
SP250/Sizeon
Gakic/Leukic/Creakic/AnatorP70/HydroxycutHardcore/Thermogain
Ebol
GlucophaseXR
Anabolic Pump
Blueprint
Nitrix
X Factor

Heres my current list:
HyperdrolX2
MassFx
Retain2
NOW ADAM
Total EFA
GF-Pro
Pure Vitagro (carb ups)
Primal EAA

About the log -
I am new to this forum but the on going review will go somethings like this:
- The first week i will post all of my lifts as a standard
- Each day i will note on any side effects, gains, and overall feelings
- I will take new measures roughly around every 2 weeks
- At the end of each week i will post a short review on how the stack went during that time frame.

I'm looking forward to reviewing this stack as i have heard good reviews this far. I will post my starting measures later on today.
As for now i am off to the gym. LET IT BEGIN

RaisingTheBar35

04-16-2007, 12:16 PM

biceps: 15 5/8
chest: 42
Abdomen: 33
thighs: 22 1/4
calves: 15 1/2
neck: 14

bf: 10%
weight: 186
age: 22
Height: 5'9

i will post pictures later tonight...

FORCE RECON

04-16-2007, 12:18 PM

Good luck!

RaisingTheBar35

04-16-2007, 10:51 PM

Chest Back & Abs

Bench Press: 135X15 (warm up) 185X15, 205X10, 225X6
BB Rows: 135X12, 155X8, 185X5
Incline Press: 155x15, 185x7, 205x4
Lat pulldown: 120X15, 140X12, 170X7
Dips: (13, 11, 10)
Shrugs: 45sX20, 70sX15, 95X8
chest fly 45sX15
Dead lifts 135X15, 275X5, 315X2
decline sit ups 150 (50 obliques)

dosing today:
1 hyperdrol2 upon waking
1 mass fx pre work out
1 retain2 post work out
1 hyperdrol2 mid day
1 mass fx late afternoon
2 hyperdrol2 pre bed

with the help of a few reps so far ive learned that taking 2 hyperdrol pre bed will optimize testosterone for optimal growth during sleep so the advantage outways spliting all 4 doses through out the day. I also found out that taking retain post work out is optimal because this is when cortisol levels are highest. Id just like to note that i take all of these supplements as directed with food.

Feelings: while taking servings by themselves i did not feel anything substantial, in the gym i felt a little more motivated than usual and didnt wear out as easily, prolly placebo but it still works for me.

side effects: none

Sorry with the delay on pictures ill be posting them as soon as i take them

Ive heard people talk about how taking this many dosages can be somewhat annoying but i am used to pills all day long so its really no big deal. Overall i am still excited and cant wait to see what develops

Biceps

04-17-2007, 08:44 PM

Hey, you're log is looking great!! I'll definitely be following along. Your dosing looks solid, along with the times of day you're taking each product to maximize results :)

RaisingTheBar35

04-17-2007, 11:23 PM

thanks a lot man, im trying to keep this cut as clean as possible to not skew the results.

Here are my starting pictures

RaisingTheBar35

04-18-2007, 01:06 AM

Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps

Front BB press: 135X15, 155X12, 175X7
Back BB press: 135X15, 155X10, 175X6

bar curls: 85X15, 95X8, 105X4 (negs)
close grip bench press: 135X15, 155X10, 175X5

shoulder flys: 20'sX15, 35'sX5

Dumbell curls (alternating): 20sX40 35sX22, 45sX10
Tricep extensions: 15sX15, 20sX15, 35sX8

dosing today:
1 hyperdrol2 upon waking
1 mass fx pre work out
1 retain2 post work out
1 hyperdrol2 + 1 mass fx late afternoon
2 hyperdrol2 pre bed

Good work out today, cant say anything drastic has happend just yet. 1 thing i am starting to notice is that i am thirsty a lot. this could be a number of factors contributing but i have read that this is a noted side effect. I dont mind drinking a lot of water, and it makes it easier to reach a daily requirement so i dont view it as a bad thing.

side effects: none

RaisingTheBar35

04-18-2007, 10:16 PM

Today was a cardio session for me. 5 minute warm up with 15 minutes of HIIT followed by a cool down and an abs session. I didnt notice any difference, maybe a little more sweating but this could have been from a number of factors. i had a ****y nights sleep last night, but that was only because i was up til 4 am on the phone. so today i felt a little tired.

overall: not a bad day, took it easy besides cardio.

side effects: none :)

RaisingTheBar35

04-20-2007, 01:03 AM

LEGS

Squats: 135X25 185X20 225X15 275X7 315X2

Leg press single leg 90X12, 10, 9

Calve extensions, 90X15, 135X13, 180X10

Stiff legged deadlifts: 135X15, 185X10, 225X6

Man, ive been thirsty all day long - i love it. i took a good 2 hour nap today, if i didnt have to do anything else i could have prolly slept all day long. I really need to get out of bed and start moving around before i feel awake. I might be in need of some stimulants eventually who knows. during my nap i had a very intense dream, 1 of those ones where u wake up not knowing if it was real or not. Ive experienced x factor and zma dreams, this is up there and its prolly gonna get more intense.

Side effects: slightly tired, crazy dream.

RaisingTheBar35

04-21-2007, 02:39 AM

Depletion work out

bench press 185x15, 205X9l 225X6
Rows 90X15, 135X10, 185X5
incline press 155X15, 185X9, 205X6
wide bar pull ups: 10, 8, 7
Front bbpress 135X8
back bbpress: 135X7
Curls: 85X15, 95X8, 105X5 negs
Skull Crushers: 95X12, 95X11, 105X6
150 crunches (50 obliques)

still thirsty no signs of this wearing off. My strength seems like its already increasing, so far i am impressed.

Side effects: Craziest most vivid dream ive ever experienced yet.

i started a carb up post work out, maybe something interesting will happen this weekend

RaisingTheBar35

04-22-2007, 12:38 AM

today was just a normal carb up day, always feel a little bit bloated because of all the water retention involved, so nothing different. I had another vivid dream, this is starting to catch my interest. Anyways tomorrow is going to be the start of another keto week, might start it up with a HIIT for fun i'll see what kind of mood i am in.

Side effects: dreams, thirsty.

Mister_A

04-22-2007, 11:56 AM

Looks good.

Subscribed!!

RaisingTheBar35

04-22-2007, 07:30 PM

To my suprise, i as back in ketosis before i knew it, im guessing the diet is just starting to handle itself better. Today i had my first testosterone induced rage tantrom, and they come out of the middle of nowhere. I ended up being one stubborn S.O.B. for no reason at all, but looking back on it, i think it was pretty funny. Another off day from the gym so no strength reports to note. Still having crazy dreams, still thirsty, but the good news is i didnt feel so lethargic today. :)

Side effects: rage, thirst, dreams

RaisingTheBar35

04-22-2007, 07:40 PM

Well heres what people can expect to see during the first week of the AX ultimate mass cycle:

Thirst: right off the start you feel like drinking water all day long, nothing will quench your thirst. a few minutes after drinking a glass, you will head for another one. Its not such a bad thing though, water is important in dieting and i think this is good motivation.

Mild Lethargy: Well for the first few days you feel like sleeping all day long and no matter how much you nap it doesnt seem to feel like its enough. If you are into stimulants, i guess you could use em whenever you feel free.

Dreams: CRAZY! i cant explain it, every single night there is something new to expect, some of them are awesome some of them u wake up in a cold sweat thinking your life has drastically changed. Either way its not so bad when you realize it was all just a dream.

Motivation: This may or maynot be a placebo effect but i feel more motivated and definatly excited for each new day.

Strength: Nothing too dramatic yet but you can notice a slight improvement on lifts.

Anger: this just started kicking in recently so i cant comment too much, but some things will just set you off into a rage, i suppose some people are more prone to this than others.

ON TO WEEK 2!!

Mister_A

04-23-2007, 10:29 AM

Nice first week review.

Biceps

04-23-2007, 03:47 PM

Yes, very nice 1st week review. I'm 3 days into using Hyperdrol-X2 and I'm already eating a damn whole through my kitchen cabinets!!! I never feel full on this stuff.

qweewq12

04-23-2007, 06:58 PM

Right on! Man.. I was hungry and thirst all day long today! water is ok.. but I'm trying to cut a bit too!

RaisingTheBar35

04-23-2007, 11:03 PM

Thanks to everyone whose looking in, its just starting to get interesting.

Alright well, im gonna stop posting the lifts because its a little redundant but ill give a little taste. Today i got 17 reps for 155 incline bench press. Thats 2 more than usual, so this stack's strength may be starting to heat up.

Id like to add that this week i am taking

4 hyperdrol x2
3 mass fx
and 2 retain2

i am pretty amped about the upped dosage, cant wait to see what happens. as for today i didnt feel any different side effects, actually today was mostly positives. I wasnt as thirsty, and my throat wasnt scratchy, i had a lot more motivation and wasnt so tired. Some mild pumps today in the gym, next week ill be able to take 2 mass fx pre work out im excited for that.

anyways so far so good :)

RaisingTheBar35

04-24-2007, 06:21 PM

Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps

today was an awesome work out. my arms seemed to swole up and vascularity was good, i didnt seem as sore inbetween sets and just kept throwing weights around. i wasnt to be as thirsty as usual, and definatly more awake than before. i got woken up by a friend today so i dont remember any crazy dreams, it seems like i got a pretty good nights rest. A+

Side effects: none :)

continuum

04-24-2007, 07:40 PM

Biceps

04-24-2007, 09:10 PM

awesome, very intriguing stack man, i'm subscribed. i'm excited to see how it helps you, especially with maintaining strength while cutting, i know a lot of people have trouble with that. you've got a real solid base to start this with too. good luck dude!

fmrazorroller is running a cut right now and his strength is going through the roof with just Hyperdrol-X2!!

qweewq12

04-25-2007, 09:13 PM

I tell you what... I have had an extra dry throat/sinus ever since I started this... Can't tell if I am getting sick or the AX stack is doing it...

fmrazoroller

04-25-2007, 09:24 PM

im definatly sub'd...i too am starting to get tired on these last few days of the month, i dont feel like doing much at all but sleeping. i too got real thirsty around weeks 3-4. get ready for that intensity to get cranked up, i noticed it real good around week 2 and up. i to am cutting check out my log in my signature..i did straiight hyperdrol x2, so you should see great gains. i lost around 3 pounds so far but my bodyfat has went down quite a bit. looking alot more cut and vascular. best of hopes!

RaisingTheBar35

04-27-2007, 09:40 AM

sorry about the last two days ive been really busy with tests and projects.

anyways i havent noticed any side effects, yesterday i was up for 40 hours straight trying to get a project done and studying for a test but i did manage to get a leg day in for thursday and it was pretty good, i wasnt very sore afterwards and i was flying through sets.

ill post more detail about my depletion work out today, sorry again.

and once agian thanks to everyone looking in, the stack is going great!

Biceps

04-27-2007, 10:23 PM

and once agian thanks to everyone looking in, the stack is going great!

Glad to hear you're enjoying it so far :) It only gets better from here on out :D

Mister_A

04-28-2007, 11:05 AM

I tell you what... I have had an extra dry throat/sinus ever since I started this... Can't tell if I am getting sick or the AX stack is doing it...
Try to up your water intake a little.

qweewq12

04-28-2007, 01:03 PM

nah.. it was me... I was getting a head cold... had it on thurs & took friday off from work cause I felt like crap... will talk about it more in my weekly report tomorrow.

Mister_A

04-28-2007, 01:22 PM

nah.. it was me... I was getting a head cold... had it on thurs & took friday off from work cause I felt like crap... will talk about it more in my weekly report tomorrow.
Oh okay. Hope you feel better ASAP.

RaisingTheBar35

04-29-2007, 10:52 PM

well sorry its been a while, my work out on friday went pretty nicely there wasnt too big of a change. weekend carb up went pretty nicely so ill just comment on my week 2 update and keep on top of the log now

Thirst: drops down, i dont notice it as much anymore but i still drink the same amount anyways.

Anger: fluctuates at times, goes up and down depending on the situation, nothing uncontrollable though.

Dreams: still a little crazy but i am starting to get used to them so its not that bad.

Strength: a little bit of increases on lifts, maybe 1-2 reps extra per set. :)

Lethargy: i dont feel tired anymore, its possible that the retain is keeping motivated all day.

anyways im really excited about week three because mass fx is going up to 4 caps per day, 2 pre work out and i heard good results with it. also i am thinking of cranking retain up to 3 per day but im not sure yet ill post later on about what i decide.

overall this stack is impressing me and since ive heard that after week 3 is when intensity jacks up, im really excited.

Biceps

04-29-2007, 10:59 PM

overall this stack is impressing me and since ive heard that after week 3 is when intensity jacks up, im really excited.

Week 3 is good, especially when you kick the MassFX straight up to 4 caps. I usually just start at 4 caps. The two caps is recommended as a "feeler" period. That means that Mass FX is definitely a product that you feel working. And there's no need to take more than what is necessary for you to "feel" it. So we recommend you start at 2 caps and work your way up to find that "feeling-it" zone.

For the bigger guys though (200lbs +) I would just start the Mass FX at 4 caps and skip the "feel-up" phase. An individual weighing 160lbs needs less than an individual who weighs 200+, generally speaking, due to the greater quantity of mass.

Thanks for the update :)

RaisingTheBar35

04-30-2007, 12:10 PM

Today was a chest, back & abs work out

i started taking 4 mass fx today, and 2 of which are pre work out. WOW!

i was definatly suprised, the weight felt a lot lighter and i could get about 1-2 extra reps on most sets. After sets i had some pretty strong pumps running through my arms, i cant wait til bi's and tri's tomorrow :).

alright so some comments i forgot to mention over the weekend.

SEX DRIVE IS WAYYY UP, right after having sex i wanted to get right back to it and not even with the same girl haha. Alpha Male Mentality anyone? its on your mind all day long, and i dont really consider it to be a bad thing.

Yesterday and today, i have this feeling in my nuts kind of like blue balls but i know thats not the case. Ive read about this in other reviews, correct me if im wrong, but i think it just has to deal with the increased production down there. Im not too worried about, i figure going out and having a little fun will get rid of it so it definatly keeps me motivated. Its not even that painful its just noticeable. If anyone has input please comment i am a little curious.

anyways i can definatly feel the stack making a difference and for me that is enough to consider the money to be worth it.

Biceps

04-30-2007, 07:52 PM

Today was a chest, back & abs work out

i started taking 4 mass fx today, and 2 of which are pre work out. WOW!

i was definatly suprised, the weight felt a lot lighter and i could get about 1-2 extra reps on most sets. After sets i had some pretty strong pumps running through my arms, i cant wait til bi's and tri's tomorrow :).

alright so some comments i forgot to mention over the weekend.

SEX DRIVE IS WAYYY UP, right after having sex i wanted to get right back to it and not even with the same girl haha. Alpha Male Mentality anyone? its on your mind all day long, and i dont really consider it to be a bad thing.

LOL!! The alpha male mentality is seriously no joke!! I love this effect from Mass FX. I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying it :D Keep throwing up that big weight!!

Yesterday and today, i have this feeling in my nuts kind of like blue balls but i know thats not the case. Ive read about this in other reviews, correct me if im wrong, but i think it just has to deal with the increased production down there. Im not too worried about, i figure going out and having a little fun will get rid of it so it definatly keeps me motivated. Its not even that painful its just noticeable. If anyone has input please comment i am a little curious.

This is due to the increase in testosterone that your boys are crankin' out. It should subside. However, in some they do feel a very minor sense of blue balls throughout the cycle. It just depends on the individual :)

RaisingTheBar35

05-02-2007, 12:22 AM

the blue balls feeling subsides after relieving some tension so its definatly not a big deal

today was an arms + shoudlers work out and the pumps were so intense on some sets i could barely hold onto the bar for curls. Also vascularity has definately improved - i could even see it on the posterior side of my forearms.

just keeps getting better and better ;)

bart452

05-02-2007, 06:15 AM

looking good man,

i was thinking of doing the same stack as you for cutting down this summer so im very interested in your results

good luck

bart

lild512004

05-02-2007, 12:37 PM

Im taking the same stack, I'm only a week into it but I have noticed it too. The last couple of days, it feels like blue balls. Not painful, but noticable, Is that a common side effect?

Biceps

05-02-2007, 11:18 PM

Im taking the same stack, I'm only a week into it but I have noticed it too. The last couple of days, it feels like blue balls. Not painful, but noticable, Is that a common side effect?

Not everyone notices it, but some have. It's simply a result from the increased demand that have been placed on the testes to produce more testosterone. Like raisingthebar35 said above, "relieving some tension" will definitely help :D It's an effect that'll subside for you.

Superdude87

05-03-2007, 08:00 AM

Biceps

05-03-2007, 09:40 PM

I was also considering this stack for cutting down, but not really sure how effective it is or what the benefits are as opposed to bulking. Obviously it seems like this is a good bulking stack, but what are some of the benefits for cutting? Increased testosterone = less muscle loss? Less cortisol?

Exactly. Keeping your testosterone levels elevated while cutting is a huge advantage for those dieting down to a lower bodyfat %. Hyperdrol-X2 will help you incredibly with that. It'll also keep your motivation very high while dieting down because the increased testosterone levels really give you that "feeling good" feeling. Of the testers we had that were cutting, they actually got stronger while cutting...a sure indicator that they retained their lean muscle mass. They also gained 1-2lb of new lean mass while cutting.

Mass FX will also help you to greatly stay focused and agressive. It'll help you to maintain and to even gain strength. Gaining and maintaining strength while on a cut has a direct correlation to muscle mass rentention. And with Mass FX, I am constantly setting new personal records every time I set foot in the gym. It is by far the best strength supplement I have ever used. It also has the added benefit of contributing to potential new mass gains due to the direct AR stimulation that 25R-diol has, along with the increased free testosterone levels that come from the divanil.

RaisingTheBar35

05-03-2007, 10:05 PM

id just like to put out there that a lot of people have been commenting on my improvement so far, some of them even think ive gotten bigger :). Yesterday was Rugby practice for some nice cardio, i was definatly more agressive for tackles - i was totally amped! Today was a leg work out and focus was definately up and i saw an endurance improvement for squats.

Sadly 1 of the minor side effects has showed its ugly face. Im starting to get minor acne on my shoulders... i'm used to it tho so it doesnt really bother me, im pretty confident that as soon as i get out in the sun and get some UV it will clear up nicely. Honestly i dont really care about a few pimples when comparing it to PRs in the gym, increased vascularity and feeling confidence all day long.

Im glad to see so many people are following, if anyone has any questions - shoot.

RaisingTheBar35

05-05-2007, 02:41 PM

RaisingTheBar35

05-05-2007, 02:42 PM

happy cinco de mayo for everyone else

Biceps

05-05-2007, 11:19 PM

friday was another depletion work out

intensity is up at the gym as well as vascularity, alpha male mentality is definately noticeable at parties and such. i have nothing to complain about - this stack is awesome. ill post my 3rd week review tomorrow but for now i'm carbing up and its MY BIRTHDAY! woohoo

Happy Birthday!! So, whatcha' got planned for tonight?! Glad to hear you're enjoying the stack :D I'll keep an eye out for your review.

RaisingTheBar35

05-06-2007, 09:46 AM

well actually friday night was a crazy party. mescaline worm shots at midnight, got pretty ****ed up.

apparently my alpha male mentality was bumped up to drunk ******* mentality

and was telling chicks that if they didnt hook up with me, id just go and find someone else. HAHAHA confidence out the ass. great time tho, ill post 3rd week review later today

RaisingTheBar35

05-06-2007, 01:10 PM

Heres what happend over the third week

Thirst: has died down, i barely notice it anymore. Id back to a normal level.

No lethargy: i no longer feel tired, the only difference is waking up from sleep is a little more difficult that usual.

Dreams: I havent noticed any crazy dreams anymore, maybe my body has adapted to it idk, but i remember them every now and then.

Motivation: Taking 2 massfx prework out can really get you going, sometimes you just dont want to leave the gym.

Strength: This goes along with motivation, lifts are stronger than when i started the cut and its impressive to think that this can happen.

Anger: Some random angry outbursts but nothing too crazy.

Vascularity is up!

Alpha male mentality: i notice i am a lot more confident where ever i go, its kind of hard to explain how this works but i guess youll just have to try it yourself.

Anyways i am pretty stoked about the stack and ive heard that after week 3 is when it really kicks in so this is it people! watch closely it should be nice. People have said i look more defined recently, i think ill do a 1 month status update with new stats so well see.

ON TO WEEK 4!!

qweewq12

05-06-2007, 01:21 PM

I find that I am more verbal with people... swear at people more in traffic, more likely to tell someone what I think when it is negative and when I don't really care.. Not really a long term thing, more like short-outbursts...which like relieves pressure and then back to normal...

Biceps

05-06-2007, 10:24 PM

RaisingTheBar35

05-09-2007, 08:09 PM

Biceps

05-09-2007, 10:52 PM

wow guys, intensity has really jacked up in the gym this week. my strength has increased dramatically and so has rep progression. The only side effects im gonna have to comment on is lethargy is back. Last night i got a 11 hour sleep and still woke up sort of tired, i have to really get moving around until i wake up. Thank god for stimulants :)

LOL!! Yeah, stims can be great like that. I've often read that sleeping longer than your body requires can actually make you sleepier throughout the day. Are you noticing lethargy even on days when you sleep 7-8 hours?

RaisingTheBar35

05-13-2007, 07:15 PM

sorry that i havent been posting, this was the last week of school and not only was i very busy studying for finals i had a lot of other stuff going on.

Acne has cleared up

Strength is still up

Vascularity is very pronounced after taking mass fx

Lethargy is off and on, mild activty greatly reduces it

i dont feel any other side effects, dreams have been normal. Im out of school so im going to be really kicking this cut up with some extra cardio after my work outs so results should start showing very quickly.

Cheers

Biceps

05-14-2007, 10:44 PM

Glad to hear the acne has cleared up and that your strength is still climbing :)

RaisingTheBar35

05-14-2007, 11:11 PM

TODAY WAS AWESOME

chest and back work out, vascularity was insane!!
i felt outrageous pumps in my forearms and i got another rep on my bench press.

Just because i wanted to 'kick it up a notch' and because i had so much energy, i did 20 minutes of cardio after my work out. I hope this stack doesnt stop impressing me.

Biceps

05-15-2007, 10:34 PM

RaisingTheBar35

05-20-2007, 08:30 PM

Heres what happend over the fifth week

Thirst: normal

I dont feel lethargic at all, i am actually quite awake all day long.

Dreams: A few vivid ones here and there but nothing crazy anymore

Strength: I am getting stronger every week so far.

Anger: Not a problem.

Vascularity improving

Alpha male mentality is awesome, especially when wearing the AX t shirt.

So far everything is going well, taking retain 3 times a day is making a difference, i havent been as tired lately. Anyways i start work this monday :(. Ive been adding cardio in everyday of the week to keep diet in check, i might start putting this in the morning and having evening workouts rather than doing it after. Im starting to see ab muscles i need to just cut away a little bit more. Hard to beleive ive got like 2 more months of this stack.

RaisingTheBar35

05-20-2007, 10:41 PM

Well, after some carefull considerations ive decided to only run this stack for a total of 8 weeks.

This week finishes my first bottle of mass fx.
Ive decided that although this stack is fantastic, it would be put to much better use on a bulk. I plan to save my extra bottles for my clean bulk in the fall.

From this point on the rest of this log will go as follows

weeks 6-8
hyperdrol x2 (4 times a day)
retain 2 (1 time a day)

and sadly no more mass fx :(

on the bright side this will allow me to distinguish how much of a player mass fx was, in comparison to HX2.

all things considered, during a cut testosterone levels normally drop, and hyperdrol x2 will take care of that for me, whereas mass fx was mainly an preworkout supplement. Free testosterone at my age isnt really a problem. So we'll see how the tables turn from this point onward.

Cutting has been going well, an according to the original plan i was going to take 2 weeks off of mass fx anyways. So in reality little has changed, besides shortening the cycle from 12 weeks to 8. if there are any questions - feel free.

RaisingTheBar35

05-21-2007, 04:56 PM

as expected my strength did decrease without using mass fx :( but strangely enough my vascularity and pumps remained. Today my body definatly took a toll handling the same weight as before but without the prework out boost. I handled most of it pretty well except for bench press. These results make me confident that the gains made this far are here to stay :)

RaisingTheBar35

05-27-2007, 08:23 PM

So far things havent been going too bad without mass fx. MY reps are still above the starting amount yet below what they were. Overall ive had no side effects and have been getting good results. Im changing up my work out routine this week along with a normal 40/40/20 diet plan. Hoping everything stays good.

Biceps

05-28-2007, 08:00 PM