Deserusan's X-Factor, Melting Point, & Halodrol Liquigel Log/Review

[Zachattack43]

I'll be covering this in my final review. I strayed from the "science" discussion for one reason: I don't want people knowing what I'm researching. There are too many copycat artists out there and accidentally divulging any theories of my own might put money in someone else's pocket. :)
Rob^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


How come there's not a whole of discussion happening?



:eek: seriously i should send you some money to get some for me
bump


Aye. Did you see where he went on the "How much do you spend on supps" thread? There will be consequences and reprocussions.
how much?

[user4694231326]

des, are you using the slow tempo 226 or 626 for your workouts?

nice to know that I am not the only drinking coffee preWO or cardio. :)

[deserusan]

des, are you using the slow tempo 226 or 626 for your workouts?

nice to know that I am not the only drinking coffee preWO or cardio. :)

I'm not sure....I do the reps slow and only take enough time to catch my breath between sets. I don't overthink it too much these days.

[Zachattack43]

I'm not sure....I do the reps slow and only take enough time to catch my breath between sets. I don't overthink it too much these days.

I just do the negs slow, while the positive rep is in control but not slow. thoughts?

[deserusan]

I just do the negs slow, while the positive rep is in control but not slow. thoughts?

It depends. On pressing movement I try to be explosive on the concentric and controlled on the eccentric. On pulling movements, I'm controlled on both directions.

[Robboe]

Rob^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Ahh, right. I guess that is fair.

[deserusan]

Ahh, right. I guess that is fair.

you bet your arse it is! :D

[Robboe]

I would never bet my arse. It would win every time.

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.1 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

*Indicates a warm-up set

Supine Barbell Bench Press: 135lbs x 12*, 225lbs x 12*, 275lbs x 12*, 315lbs x 10, 315lbs x 10, 315lbs x 10

Incline Dumbell Press: 100lb'ers x 12*, 130lb'ers x 10, 130lb'ers x 10, 130lb'ers x 10

Decline Cable Crossovers (FreeMotion): 12, 12, 12

Incline Cable Crossovers (FreeMotion): 12, 12, 12

Double Overhead Dumbell Extensions: 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10

Rope Extensions (to the front): 10, 10, 10

Overhead Rope Extension: 10, 10, 10



Thoughts

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/a/images/american-pie-2.jpg

This son of a bitch was caught by his father ****ing a pie in his home. This disgraces not only suburban America, but also the entire pastry industry as well. Frankly, I'm thinking of going to Little Debbie headquarters and protesting the fact they let a human stick his cock in something which personifies the warm American spirit. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deserusan's Essential Love Them & Leave Them Track

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3913/untitledyx6.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVIgOBVO5gA)

Click the image for Youtube

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[NoNameNecessary]

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The Workout: 9.1 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

*Indicates a warm-up set

Supine Barbell Bench Press: 135lbs x 12*, 225lbs x 12*, 275lbs x 12*, 315lbs x 10, 315lbs x 10, 315lbs x 10

Incline Dumbell Press: 100lb'ers x 12*, 130lb'ers x 10, 130lb'ers x 10, 130lb'ers x 10

Decline Cable Crossovers (FreeMotion): 12, 12, 12

Incline Cable Crossovers (FreeMotion): 12, 12, 12

Double Overhead Dumbell Extensions: 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10

Rope Extensions (to the front): 10, 10, 10

Overhead Rope Extension: 10, 10, 10



Thoughts

in a minute

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Awesome workout, as always, Des.

I have been reading and following but haven't posted much. The log has been great so far and has been quite informative.

[Giggety Giggety]

I miss a good starbucks to start my day :(.

[Zachattack43]

I miss a good starbucks to start my day :(.

ppfffttt....i dont use anything, maybe some cytolean to get me up here and there

[Beejis60]

I miss a good starbucks to start my day :(.

Starbucks is the devil, you must die! Caribou tastes much better imo and you're not supporting the worst corporation in the coffee world.

[NoNameNecessary]

Starbucks is the devil, you must die! Caribou tastes much better imo and you're not supporting the worst corporation in the coffee world.

I wish we had more variety - every coffee shop is either a Dunkin Donuts or a Starbuck's.

With that said, I just finished one. Sorry.

[Beejis60]

With that said, I just finished one. Sorry.

http://www.eventide.net/forums/images/graemlins/angry7.gif Hit up a mom and pop type of joint. There's this place on campus that has the best coffee I've ever had and they're not a chain. They have flavored coffees too that are not sweeted.... Damn I wish I had one right now!

[deserusan]

I hit up Starbucks just because its close to the trail I go powerwalking on. <--LOL @ powerwalking. I need to get a group of middle aged women together and we'll get matching fanny packs and visors. :D

[Bigdolf]

I hit up Starbucks just because its close to the trail I go powerwalking on. <--LOL @ powerwalking. I need to get a group of middle aged women together and we'll get matching fanny packs and visors. :D

don't laugh man, there's one of those trails near my house and I see this everyday. they also got the sport stroller for the kids and the kids got matching hats and visors.

[deserusan]

don't laugh man, there's one of those trails near my house and I see this everyday. they also got the sport stroller for the kids and the kids got matching hats and visors.

I'm seriously considering getting a small dog and I would get him a stroller or cart.

[AtownKing187]

I'm seriously considering getting a small dog and I would get him a stroller or cart.

lmao! take pics!!!

[Zachattack43]

I'm seriously considering getting a small dog and I would get him a stroller or cart.

why do big people always get small dogs? I have never understood that

[Eyedentify]

why do big people always get small dogs? I have never understood that

Coz they are 'alpha' already, so they don't need the security and protection from a big dog :D

[Zachattack43]

Coz they are 'alpha' already, so they don't need the security and protection from a big dog :D

even then i dont want some yapper with a pea for a brain

[deserusan]

why do big people always get small dogs? I have never understood that

I like big dogs but don't like cleaning up after them. Smaller dogs are easier to care for. I'd actually like to a get a Chinese Crested and a Pug. :D

http://www.ajjlschinesecresteds.com/tp.gifhttp://piggytailknls.homestead.com/tp.gif

[Eyedentify]

even then i dont want some yapper with a pea for a brain

LOL! Yeah I agree with you

[deserusan]

even then i dont want some yapper with a pea for a brain

I don't like cleaning up turds the size of Chipotle burritos. Yap > Big ****!!!!

[Bigdolf]

I'm seriously considering getting a small dog and I would get him a stroller or cart.

I got a small dog(10lbs) and I haven't considered that yet.

[deserusan]

I got a small dog(10lbs) and I haven't considered that yet.

How about a pirch for your shoulder like a parrot? I think small dogs are awesome and like the fact they are highly portable. :D

[Zachattack43]

I got a small dog(10lbs) and I haven't considered that yet.
oh lord, I have a cat, talk about easy maintenance.

[deserusan]

oh lord, I have a cat, talk about easy maintenance.

Cats are very cool but to really bring out their personalities you have to spend a ton of time with them. Dogs are a bit easier in that department.

How about a Chinese Crested and I'll name it Paris:

http://www.thepamperedpup.com/dog_breeders/ChineseArchieMagic.jpg

..or an Alaskan Klee Kai which is a mini Husky:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images12/AlaskanKleeKaiKaia2.JPG

[Bigdolf]

How about a pirch for your shoulder like a parrot? I think small dogs are awesome and like the fact they are highly portable. :D

he does that **** when I sit on the couch, he thinks I'm a pirate.

[Free Weight Friedel]

Cats are very cool but to really bring out their personalities you have to spend a ton of time with them. Dogs are a bit easier in that department.

How about a Chinese Crested and I'll name it Paris:

http://www.thepamperedpup.com/dog_breeders/ChineseArchieMagic.jpg


LMAO!!! The Chinese Crested does look like Paris!!

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/EmmaJonasson/Paris%20Hilton/paris_hilton-1.jpg

[Eyedentify]

..or an Alaskan Klee Kai which is a mini Husky:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images12/AlaskanKleeKaiKaia2.JPG

My mum's dog exactly looked like that one, only brown in color, I didn't even know what breed it is. :D

[deserusan]

My mum's dog exactly looked like that one, only brown in color, I didn't even know what breed it is. :D

If it's an Alaskan Klee Kai ask her how the temperment is. They come in toy, minature, and standard sizes too. I don't know anyone that has one and there aren't any good dog forums. :D

[dvsness]

That Alaskan thing is cute; never seen one of those before. I like Cresteds for the novelty, but only if I can color its hair and name it Skinderella. Personally, I usually go for the more macho looking dogs like Boxers, Bulldogs and Mastiffs. Pugs are like mini real dogs.

If Danny and I end up living together I have a feeling I'd be the one doing all the feeding/walking considering how much I end up cleaning up after him when he's here, so I think I should get a vote. There will be some serious disorder if I have to take care of 2 cats, a dog and a man. :eek:

[deserusan]

That Alaskan thing is cute; never seen one of those before. I like Cresteds for the novelty, but only if I can color its hair and name it Skinderella. Personally, I usually go for the more macho looking dogs like Boxers, Bulldogs and Mastiffs. Pugs are like mini real dogs.

If Danny and I end up living together I have a feeling I'd be the one doing all the feeding/walking considering how much I end up cleaning up after him when he's here, so I think I should get a vote. There will be some serious disorder if I have to take care of 2 cats, a dog and a man. :eek:

Like that's just your opinion man!

[Eyedentify]

If it's an Alaskan Klee Kai ask her how the temperment is. They come in toy, minature, and standard sizes too. I don't know anyone that has one and there aren't any good dog forums. :D

I kinda doubt that she'll know for sure if its alaskan klee kai or a mix of pomeranian and chihuahua, lol, coz she didn't actually bought as it was a gift. It looks exactly like that one though, just a bit more furry and brown in color. :D

What I can tell you about the temperament is, it loves her very much and hated everyone else in the house, very very noisy (true yapper would be the perfect description like zach said :D) and always try to act tough. :D

[deserusan]

What I can tell you about the temperament is, it loves her very much and hated everyone else in the house, very very noisy (true yapper would be the perfect description like zach said :D) and always try to act tough. :D

My aunt had her dog's vocal chords removed because it barked too much. I guess that's always an option. :)

[Free Weight Friedel]

That Alaskan thing is cute; never seen one of those before. I like Cresteds for the novelty, but only if I can color its hair and name it Skinderella. Personally, I usually go for the more macho looking dogs like Boxers, Bulldogs and Mastiffs. Pugs are like mini real dogs.

If Danny and I end up living together I have a feeling I'd be the one doing all the feeding/walking considering how much I end up cleaning up after him when he's here, so I think I should get a vote. There will be some serious disorder if I have to take care of 2 cats, a dog and a man. :eek:

Geezzzz, plus all those supps you guys have!!! You'll need like a 5 BR home just to hold all of it!!! :D

[dvsness]

What I can tell you about the temperament is, it loves her very much and hated everyone else in the house, very very noisy (true yapper would be the perfect description like zach said :D) and always try to act tough. :D

That's my role. I don't need a dog for that.

[deserusan]

Geezzzz, plus all those supps you guys have!!! You'll need like a 5 BR home just to hold all of it!!! :D

My supp stash isn't as big as Ms. Supplement Whore. Granted my stash is much cooler. :D

[Bigdolf]

My aunt had her dog's vocal chords removed because it barked too much. I guess that's always an option. :)

Yikes, thankgod my dog only barks at squirrels.

[Free Weight Friedel]

My supp stash isn't as big as Ms. Supplement Whore. Granted my stash is much cooler. :D


Pics of both stashes? :D

[dvsness]

My supp stash isn't as big as Ms. Supplement Whore. Granted my stash is much cooler. :D

I could probably feed all of Somalia with the protein I currently have.

And, no, it's not.

[Eyedentify]

My aunt had her dog's vocal chords removed because it barked too much. I guess that's always an option. :)

I feel sorry for that dog.. But they do get pretty irritating though..

[Eyedentify]

That's my role. I don't need a dog for that.

Don't yap too much, des might remove your vocal chords, lol :D

[deserusan]

Don't yap too much, des might remove your vocal chords, lol :D

I have something else that will shut her up.

[Eyedentify]

I have something else that will shut her up.

Hahaha!

[dvsness]

Don't yap too much, des might remove your vocal chords, lol :D

And I might remove his http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/baronmccaul/edit.jpg

[Eyedentify]

And I might remove his http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/baronmccaul/edit.jpg

lmao! I expected that one coming :D

[deserusan]

Des > Ness

..............................

[dvsness]

Des > Ness

..............................

Yes, dear, fiction can be fun. But you can't live in denial forever.

EDIT - you really need to do something about your UserCP quote before you never get to > me again.

[uhockey]

Like that's just your opinion man!

Round of applause for the Lebowski-ism. :)

[Beejis60]

Round of applause for the Lebowski-ism. :)

Nice point out! I didn't even notice that!

[Incinerated]

"oh my supp stash is greater, no my supp stash is greater"


my thoughts: **** you both for being able to afford more than tunafish... lol

[dvsness]

"oh my supp stash is greater, no my supp stash is greater"


my thoughts: **** you both for being able to afford more than tunafish... lol

Silly. I'm sponsored so I don't pay for supplements. Trust me when I say I'm no baller. :o

[Incinerated]

Silly. I'm sponsored so I don't pay for supplements. Trust me when I say I'm no baller. :o

and trust me when i say, your white. lol :D (its ok so am i...)

Now i'm off to bed for an early morning training session filled with 70 year olds who went to bed today at 3:30pm...

[deserusan]

Round of applause for the Lebowski-ism. :)

Someone got it! :D

[dvsness]

Someone got it! :D

What's up with the new quote? This one may be worse. :(

[ab-swing asianbabe]

::intermission::
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8t7BMBcInmc

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.2 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

Underhand Wide Grip Pulldowns: 240lbs x 10, 240lbs x 10, 240lbs x 10

Cable Rows: 200lbs x 12, 200lbs x 12, 200lbs x 12

Isolateral High Rows (Single Arm): 135lbs x 10/10, 135lbs x 10/10, 135lbs x 10/10

High Rope Rows: 150lbs x 8, 150lbs x 8, 150lbs x 8

superset/ w

Dumbell Pullovers: 100lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10

Barbell Curls: 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10

FreeMotion Single Arm Curls: 10/10, 10/10, 10/10

Hanging Leg Raises: 4 x 15

superset w/

Declince Sit-Ups: BW + 45lbs x 12 x 4

superset w/

Weighted Back Extensions: BW + 45lbs x 12 x 4



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[Incinerated]

hey des it seems like your workouts have been going downhill... the rating keeps getting lower and (i think i'm wrong about this) the weights have been going lower along with reps.

is this due to any side effects from your stack?

[user4694231326]

hey des it seems like your workouts have been going downhill... the rating keeps getting lower and (i think i'm wrong about this) the weights have been going lower along with reps.

is this due to any side effects from your stack?

are you sure the rating is lower?

have you tried to incorporate any of his exercise regime? I tried...it kills!

[deserusan]

hey des it seems like your workouts have been going downhill... the rating keeps getting lower and (i think i'm wrong about this) the weights have been going lower along with reps.

is this due to any side effects from your stack?

I've dropped the power portion of my training scheme. At this point, there is no reason so puch myself with VERY heavy weight. I still go heavy but focus on control.

[Zachattack43]

I've dropped the power portion of my training scheme. At this point, there is no reason so puch myself with VERY heavy weight. I still go heavy but focus on control.

I always tell people momentum does NOT equal muscle

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.9 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

*I'm excluding all warm-up sets

Part I

Squats: 225lbs x 12, 225lbs x 12 225lbs x 12

superset w/

Walking Dumbell Lunges: 30lb'ers x 30 paces, 30lb'ers x 30 paces, 30lb'ers x 30 paces

superset w/

Leg Press: 360lbs x 10, 360lbs x 10, 360lbs x 10

superset w/

Hack Squats: 180lbs x 10, 180lbs x 10, 180lbs x 10

superset w/

Reverse Hack Squats: 180lbs x 10, 180lbs x 10, 180lbs x 10

superset w/

SLDL: 225lbs x 10, 225lbs x 10, 225lbs x 10

Part II

Hamtractor Singles (no rest between sets): 60lbs x 10/10, 60lbs x 10/10, 60lbs x 10/10

Leg Extension Singles (no rest between sets): 100lbs x 10/10, 100lbs x 10/10, 100lbs x 10/10



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[redhawk76]

:eek: Impressive workout Des.

I followed your chest routine yesterday, as did Kurt, and must say it was incredible. I think I will employ this technique for back today.

Do you experience a euphoric effect in the hours after working out (in this style)? I'm always happy after a good workout, but yesterday I was in an incredible mood for no apparent reason.

Also, do you think this method is fine to do with BCAAs during, with carbs/pro after, or should glycogen supercompensation be used in this instance if possible?

[dvsness]

Hmmm... I haven't used reverse hacks and standard hacks in the same workout, although I did do hack sets with different foot placements yesterday.

[user4694231326]

this is a damn bloody great workout program.

I love you man!

*share some peanut love with Des*

[deserusan]

:eek: Impressive workout Des.

I followed your chest routine yesterday, as did Kurt, and must say it was incredible. I think I will employ this technique for back today.

Do you experience a euphoric effect in the hours after working out (in this style)? I'm always happy after a good workout, but yesterday I was in an incredible mood for no apparent reason.

Also, do you think this method is fine to do with BCAAs during, with carbs/pro after, or should glycogen supercompensation be used in this instance if possible?

The high you experience was probably a huge endorphin (beta-endorphin to be extact). release. I don't get these much anymore because I guess I'm used to the effect. Essentially these are opioid neuropeptides which is released after great stress and cause a huge dopamine cascade.

Its safer than crack and cheaper than weed. ;)

I should have mentioned to get the full benefit of workouts like these you do need to be injesting a carb source while working out. This is why SizeON (I'm not trying to pimp) works extremely well for this type of training. You can use something as simple as gatorade mixed with BCAA's or something advanced like SizeON.

[redhawk76]

The high you experience was probably a huge endorphin (beta-endorphin to be extact). release. I don't get these much anymore because I guess I'm used to the effect. Essentially these are opioid neuropeptides which is released after great stress and cause a huge dopamine cascade.

Its safer than crack and cheaper than weed. ;)


I figured it had to do with endorphins, so there is just a greater release dependant on the intensity/stress level?



I should have mentioned to get the full benefit of workouts like these you do need to be injesting a carb source while working out. This is why SizeON (I'm not trying to pimp) works extremely well for this type of training. You can use something as simple as gatorade mixed with BCAA's or something advanced like SizeON.

You don't have to sell me on SizeOn, I am already a huge fan. And it obviously makes a lot of sense in this situation.

I think I will just add some malto to my bcaas if I do this again, but I'll probably wait to utilize the technique more often when I'm taking in more calories, and I'm sure I'll pick up SO then :p

[deserusan]

I figured it had to do with endorphins, so there is just a greater release dependant on the intensity/stress level?


From what I have read I believe intesity and oxygen utilization are the determining factors.

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.1 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

*Indicates warm-up set

FreeMotion Lateral Raises: 15*, 15*, 12, 12, 12

superset w/

FreeMotion Single Arm Hybrid Rows: 12*, 12*, 12, 12, 12

Standing Dumbell Presses: 80lb'ers x 12, 80lb'ers 12, 80lb'ers x 12

Dumbell Lateral Raises: 40lb'ers x 10, 40lb'ers x 10, 40lb'ers x 10

Single Arm Trap/Rear Delt Dumbell Rows: 50lb'ers x 8, 50lb'ers x 8, 50lb'ers x 8

FreeMotion Lower Trap Rows: 10, 10, 10

Overhead Cable Rope Extensions: 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10

superset w/

Standing Dumbell Curls: 55lb'ers x 8/8, 55lb'ers x 8/8, 55lb'ers x 8/8

Single Arm Cable Extensions: 60lbs x 10/10, 60lbs x 10/10, 60lbs x 10/10

superset w/

Spider Curls: 55lbs x 20, 55lbs x 20, 55lbs x 20

Decline Crunches: 30, 30, 30





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[Twin Peak]

I am tired just reading that workout. How are things in general? Training? Progress?

[Zachattack43]

I am tired just reading that workout. How are things in general? Training? Progress?

A lil birdie told me he is losing weight. Just 30 more pounds til the boss is down to my weight:D

[Robboe]

The high you experience was probably a huge endorphin (beta-endorphin to be extact). release. I don't get these much anymore because I guess I'm used to the effect. Essentially these are opioid neuropeptides which is released after great stress and cause a huge dopamine cascade.

Its safer than crack and cheaper than weed. ;)


I recall reading something about a researcher, or a team of researchers trying to demonstrate that endorphins are purely for pain numbing, and a different peptide is released to cause the euphoria. I've not been able to re-find it though unfortunately.

[Beejis60]

Single Arm Trap/Rear Delt Dumbell Rows

Care to elaborate on what this exercise is?

[deserusan]

Care to elaborate on what this exercise is?

Normal dumbell rows meant for your back typically have the humerous in the perpendicular plane to your shoulder girdle and parallel to your vertebrae. This row variation has your humerous perpendicular to your vertebrae and in-line with your shoulder girdle.

This really nails the rhomboids, lower trapezius, and posterior deltoids.

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.4 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

Leg Press: 1080lbs x 10, 1080lbs x 10, 1080lbs x 10

Hack Squat: 360lbs x 10, 360lbs x 10, 360lbs x 10

Hack Squats (high foot placement): 90lbs x 20, 90lbs x 20, 90lbs x 20

SLDL: 245lbs x 10, 245lb x 10, 245lbs x 10

Single Leg Hamtractor: 90lbs x 10/10, 90lbs x 10/10, 90lbs x 10/10

Hybrid Calf Training



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[Giggety Giggety]

Radiohead fan ehh

[deserusan]

Radiohead fan ehh

Yes sir. You?

[Giggety Giggety]

Yes sir. You?

Most def, I haven't heard that song in almost a year I bet.

[Robboe]

Radiohead are awesome live. Idioteque is so good live.

[Beejis60]

Normal dumbell rows meant for your back typically have the humerous in the perpendicular plane to your shoulder girdle and parallel to your vertebrae. This row variation has your humerous perpendicular to your vertebrae and in-line with your shoulder girdle.

This really nails the rhomboids, lower trapezius, and posterior deltoids.

I like! I'm going to have to give this a try today!


Radiohead fan ehh


Yes sir. You?


Radiohead are awesome live. Idioteque is so good live.


Most def, I haven't heard that song in almost a year I bet.

x4!! I think Karma Police is probably my favorite song, however I don't know much of their stuff. The video is quite awesome/disturbing depending on your personality.

[Eyedentify]

Des

I haven't seen any report on the effects of the supplements lately. What's happening there? Don't worry about the science, I'm just interested in the usual general feelings with the usage of your current stack.

[Robboe]

x4!! I think Karma Police is probably my favorite song, however I don't know much of their stuff. The video is quite awesome/disturbing depending on your personality.

Karma Police is great, but if its your favorite song by them, i can't help but feel like you really ought to check out their other stuff.

In an act of pure unselfishness, i'm going to recommend some, which others can feelf ree to add to, so crack open whatever you use for downloading and grab:

- 'There, there'
- 'Idioteque'
- 'Street Spirit'
- 'The Bends'
- 'Creep'
- 'Pyramid Song'
- 'I might be wrong'

[deserusan]

Des

I haven't seen any report on the effects of the supplements lately. What's happening there? Don't worry about the science, I'm just interested in the usual general feelings with the usage of your current stack.

This will be in my review. I dropped Melting Point 10 days ago.

[Eyedentify]

This will be in my review. I dropped Melting Point 10 days ago.

Nice! Looking forward to it :D

[Beejis60]

Normal dumbell rows meant for your back typically have the humerous in the perpendicular plane to your shoulder girdle and parallel to your vertebrae. This row variation has your humerous perpendicular to your vertebrae and in-line with your shoulder girdle.

This really nails the rhomboids, lower trapezius, and posterior deltoids.

My god does this exercise kill the posterior delts!!!

[deserusan]

My god does this exercise kill the posterior delts!!!

Yes it does and the trap tie in as well. I've never had an issue with top of the my traps or any head of my shoulder as far as development. However, my middle and lower traps were lacking so I go inventive with exercises to bring them up. :)

[Beejis60]

Yes it does and the trap tie in as well. I've never had an issue with top of the my traps or any head of my shoulder as far as development. However, my middle and lower traps were lacking so I go inventive with exercises to bring them up. :)

I think it's more my posteriors need brought up.... but I'm also slightly coated in fat :cool:

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 8.9 out of 10

AM: 1 hour of brisk walking with some pre-cardio Starbucks.

Wide Grip Pull Downs: 200lbs x 10, 200lbs x 10, 200lbs x 10

Wide Grip (Neutral) Cable Rows: 225lbs x 8, 225lbs x 8, 225lbs x 8

Rope Pull Downs: 200lbs x 10, 200lbs x 10, 200lbs x 10

superset w/

Dumbell Pullovers: 100lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10

Dumbell Rows: 140lb'ers x 6/6, 140lb'ers x 6/6, 140lb'ers x 5/6

FreeMotion Wide Grip Curls: 12, 12, 12, 12

Concerntration Pulse Dumbell Curls: 30lb'er x 14/16, 30lb'er x 15/15, 30lb'er x 12/13

Crunches: 40, 40, 40



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[Zachattack43]

Hey, since I dont have a log, can I share some highlights from my Chest workout?:D

1st exercise, 4th set of Incline Dumbbells:
90lbs x 5

3rd exercise, 3rd set of Decline Barbell:
245lbs x 5

Those were all personal bests:D

[dvsness]

I only got 45sx4 on incline db yesterday. :mad:

[Zachattack43]

I only got 45sx4 on incline db yesterday. :mad:

that was my warm up, but 15 reps instead

Still you are pretty damn strong, never seen a lady do more than 20lb

[Beejis60]

that was my warm up, but 15 reps instead

Still you are pretty damn strong, never seen a lady do more than 20lb

At my old gym, I saw some middle-aged chick doing 155-165 on military!

[Zachattack43]

At my old gym, I saw some middle-aged chick doing 155-165 on military!

you sure it wasn't a tranny?

[Outside backer]

That Alaskan thing is cute; never seen one of those before. I like Cresteds for the novelty, but only if I can color its hair and name it Skinderella. Personally, I usually go for the more macho looking dogs like Boxers, Bulldogs and Mastiffs. Pugs are like mini real dogs.

If Danny and I end up living together I have a feeling I'd be the one doing all the feeding/walking considering how much I end up cleaning up after him when he's here, so I think I should get a vote. There will be some serious disorder if I have to take care of 2 cats, a dog and a man. :eek:

boxer owner crew

i love my dog.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/typesfanatik/joeyandvabeachpics007.jpg

[Beejis60]

you sure it wasn't a tranny?

Well the chick was pretty wide and relatively big for a woman, but I'm pretty sure it was a chick.

[dvsness]

I'm pretty sure it was a chick.

:confused:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z175/prioryposse/b28655245.jpg

:confused:

[Beejis60]

:confused:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z175/prioryposse/b28655245.jpg

:confused:

Not quite; that's a duck. Though I think I've seen full-grown chickens military press about 135.


Yes it does and the trap tie in as well. I've never had an issue with top of the my traps or any head of my shoulder as far as development. However, my middle and lower traps were lacking so I go inventive with exercises to bring them up. :)

HOLY lower trap/posterior delt DOMS BATMAN!!!

[deserusan]

I only got 45sx4 on incline db yesterday. :mad:

This must be your favorite publication! :D

http://www.urbachletter.com/0409/WeaklingWeekly_200x266.jpg

[smh31]

Denotes 1 Cap of X Factor, 1 Cap of Halodrol LG, 1 Cap of Melting Point, and 10 grams of Glutamine taken with the meal.

do you take that only once per day?

[deserusan]

Denotes 1 Cap of X Factor, 1 Cap of Halodrol LG, 1 Cap of Melting Point, and 10 grams of Glutamine taken with the meal.

do you take that only once per day?[/QUOTE

3x with an additional cap of MP and XF each plus ten more grams of glutamine.

[smh31]

i dont really understand that lol can you write it out clearer?

[deserusan]

i dont really understand that lol can you write it out clearer?

Meal 1, 3, 5 I have have 1 cap MP, XF, and HLG + 10 grams of glutamine. Meal 7 or 8 I have 1 cap MP + XF + 10 grams of glutamine. The diet laid out was a just template which has since changed.

[smh31]

ah nice

[Robboe]

boxer owner crew

i love my dog.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/typesfanatik/joeyandvabeachpics007.jpg

This is just cruel. Why would you keep your dog in a cage?...

[dvsness]

This must be your favorite publication! :D

That's not nice. 2 weeks = couch.

[user4694231326]

That's not nice. 2 weeks = couch.

copyright infringement!

that's my wife's tactic. :D



edit : off to bed now....:p

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: cardio isn't a workout :cool:

AM: 1 hour Precor Elliptical CrossTrainer

Deserusan's Essential Bout' Ta Do Resurch Up In Da Liburry Mix

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/equilizer1.gif

[Beejis60]

Deserusan's Essential Bout' Ta Do Resurch Up In Da Liburry Mix

Lol, was that chorus scribbled on a coloring book with crayons by a kindergartener?

[Outside backer]

This is just cruel. Why would you keep your dog in a cage?...

its his favorite place in the world

he spends most of his time in there

his blankets and toys in there he sits and chills

its not a discipline thing its his own safe haven


it was part of crate training when he was a pup.

like a fort for kids

[deserusan]

Lol, was that chorus scribbled on a coloring book with crayons by a kindergartener?

I have a fascination with ebonics.

[Kernkraft]

I have a fascination with ebonics.

True dat ... true dat...

[deserusan]

True dat ... true dat...

I grew outside DC. You know how we do! :D

[Kernkraft]

I grew outside DC. You know how we do! :D

I was down in DC for a sports marketing conference back in March... well in a really nice part, Gtown, GWash... nice area there... freakin city of the 3 S's: Scenery, Sirens, and Starbucks (one on every damn corner)

[deserusan]

I was down in DC for a sports marketing conference back in March... well in a really nice part, Gtown, GWash... nice area there... freakin city of the 3 S's: Scenery, Sirens, and Starbucks (one on every damn corner)

I go back a few times a year and hang out in Adam's Morgan or GTown. Adam's Morgan is a great place to party.

[adoniscomplex]

its his favorite place in the world

he spends most of his time in there

his blankets and toys in there he sits and chills

its not a discipline thing its his own safe haven


it was part of crate training when he was a pup.

like a fort for kids

ya most dogs are like that if given a crate to use
i have 2 boxers and they love thier crate

[deserusan]

ya most dogs are like that if given a crate to use
i have 2 boxers and they love thier crate

Crate training seems the way to go. If I get a dog I will be employing this.

[Beejis60]

Crate training seems the way to go. If I get a dog I will be employing this.

Why not the "kicking its ass" technique? :confused:

[dvsness]

Crate training seems the way to go. If I get a dog Vanessa will eventually be employing this.

Fixed.

You can't even train yourself to wash dishes; let's be realistic. :p

[deserusan]

Fixed.

You can't even train yourself to wash dishes; let's be realistic. :p

I give a damn good facial. Be my first customer!

[dvsness]

*changes locks*

[aznxdgnz]

hey des. are you so far satisfied with your progress or did it exceed your expectation?

[deserusan]

hey des. are you so far satisfied with your progress or did it exceed your expectation?

I've lost about 20lbs with little muscle loss.

[aznxdgnz]

I've lost about 20lbs with little muscle loss.

son of a bee sting. thats crazy. :eek:

[deserusan]

son of a bee sting. thats crazy. :eek:

Well, admittedly I was pretty damn chunky. As a natural its hard to get REAL big and not have a higher BF%. At my largest I was about 255lb this bulking cycle but also had 15-16% bodyfat as well. I was also eating 4-5000 calories a day too.

Here is me at around 255lbs in March:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/l_53b30375636bc085f4c0f4a66856344c.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/l_1a33d47836994d4b76ccd3831c6d1cdb.jpg

Here is me around 235lbs completely carb depleted getting owned by Phil Heath in May:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/dvsnessa/0517227a.jpg

[AtownKing187]

Phil Heath Pwns!!! :D (no offense Dan)

[Giggety Giggety]

Prada's or Ray Ban's???

[deserusan]

Prada's or Ray Ban's???

Lacoste. I believe you can only get them at Nordstroms or Lacoste. :D

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955/6h/images2.nordstrom.com/ImageGallery/store/Product/MediumLarge/11/_5307151.jpg

[Giggety Giggety]

Lacoste. I believe you can only get them at Nordstroms or Lacoste. :D

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955/6h/images2.nordstrom.com/ImageGallery/store/Product/MediumLarge/11/_5307151.jpg

I'm suprised just a bit, but Lacoste is nice;)

[deserusan]

I'm suprised just a bit, but Lacoste is nice;)

Why?

[aznxdgnz]

Well, admittedly I was pretty damn chunky. As a natural its hard to get REAL big and not have a higher BF%. At my largest I was about 255lb this bulking cycle but also had 15-16% bodyfat as well. I was also eating 4-5000 calories a day too.

Here is me at around 255lbs in March:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/l_53b30375636bc085f4c0f4a66856344c.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/l_1a33d47836994d4b76ccd3831c6d1cdb.jpg

Here is me around 235lbs completely carb depleted getting owned by Phil Heath in May:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/dvsnessa/0517227a.jpg

wow. in only 2 months, thats some transformation.

[Mr. Aries]

those are awesome sunglasses dan.. I am a sunglass freak. :D

[deserusan]

those are awesome sunglasses dan.. I am a sunglass freak. :D

I am too. I look at it this way, you are buying an accessory to compliment the most unique part of your physical being which draws the most attention. Go big or go home! :D

[uhockey]

I am too. I look at it this way, you are buying an accessory to compliment the most unique part of your physical being which draws the most attention. Go big or go home! :D

How do glasses compliment your big mouth? Oh, hmmmm, I guess your mouth isnt that big in the physical sense. ;) j/k

I'd wear Lacoste over Prada anyday, but I prefer quality and style over quality alone so I stick to Ray Ban and Costa Del Mar polarized (though I'll admit to owning a pair of Burberry, as well, that isn't polarized.)

[Beejis60]

I'd wear Lacoste over Prada anyday, but I prefer quality and style over quality alone so I stick to Ray Ban and Costa Del Mar polarized (though I'll admit to owning a pair of Burberry, as well, that isn't polarized.)

Polarized glasses bother the hell outta my eyes, so I obviously prefer the non-polarized ones.

[Giggety Giggety]

Why?

RB's are timeless just like you Des;)


How do glasses compliment your big mouth? Oh, hmmmm, I guess your mouth isnt that big in the physical sense. ;) j/k

I'd wear Lacoste over Prada anyday, but I prefer quality and style over quality alone so I stick to Ray Ban and Costa Del Mar polarized (though I'll admit to owning a pair of Burberry, as well, that isn't polarized.)

You impress me more and more each day DR.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

this thread saddens me. I had my beautiful dior sunnies stolen/lost. It took me about 3 days to get over it coz they were new as well.

For some reason I don't think rayban's are that cool here, too decadish.. so good choice with yours :D

[deserusan]

this thread saddens me. I had my beautiful dior sunnies stolen/lost. It took me about 3 days to get over it coz they were new as well.

For some reason I don't think rayban's are that cool here, too decadish.. so good choice with yours :D

Heh...I lost a pair of *****'s I recieved for my birthday the same day I got them. Note to self: don't wear new glasses out to party when you are going to get black out drunk. My girlfriend who gave them to me was not happy to say the least. :p

[Kernkraft]

While we're on the topic of expensive nice sunglasses, mine, bottom pair:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6872/productspicturebvio0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Beejis60]

http://files.webprogramer.com/Sunglasses/Rayban/RB3211-003-8g/RB3211-1.jpg

Rayban RB3211 FTW!

[deserusan]

I own Ray Bans you tards! I have these in brown.

http://www.giarre.com/php/tmp/RAYB_l3237-004_58-60.jpg

[Giggety Giggety]

That makes me a happy camper Des, sorry I got you off track a bit:).

[deserusan]

That makes me a happy camper Des, sorry I got you off track a bit:).

This log has been off track for the past month...lol. :D

[Beejis60]

I own Ray Bans you tards! I have these in brown.

Ya, but those ones are ghey, tard. My Ray Bans above rock the house!

[Zachattack43]

ppfffttt, I just pick up $15 knock offs at the mall:D

[Incinerated]

I only got 45sx4 on incline db yesterday. :mad:

still better than me

[deserusan]

still better than me

You are young...when you get as old as Ness I'm sure it will be up to 90lbs at least. :) I think I started with 50's around 16 and can now rep 130's with ease on an incline. :)

[dvsness]

I'm only three days older than you, jerk. ;)

Oh, and you are all freakin' shallow. I have Oakleys fom the outlet store that I got for $40 and they're all I've needed for the last five years.

[Zachattack43]

ppfffttt, I just pick up $15 knock offs at the mall:D


Oh, and you are all freakin' shallow. I have Oakleys fom the outlet store that I got for $40 and they're all I've needed for the last five years.

See above;)

[user4694231326]

how much are these impressive glasses cost?

e.g. in S'pore these glasses would cost an estimated average price USD200 nett.

oakleys or rayban can cost more than USD200 bucks. I know some Oakleys cost about USD400 freakin bucks.

I won't pay that much for a pair of glasses but approximately 30sessions of thail massages in bangkok sure worth the deal for USD400bucks.

[Beejis60]

how much are these impressive glasses cost?

e.g. in S'pore these glasses would cost an estimated average price USD200 nett.

oakleys or rayban can cost more than USD200 bucks. I know some Oakleys cost about USD400 freakin bucks.

I won't pay that much for a pair of glasses but approximately 30sessions of thail massages in bangkok sure worth the deal for USD400bucks.

Depends on what model, etc. Those Ray Bans I posted cost around $120ish.

[Kledz]

this thread saddens me. I had my beautiful dior sunnies stolen/lost. It took me about 3 days to get over it coz they were new as well.

For some reason I don't think rayban's are that cool here, too decadish.. so good choice with yours :D

Same thing happened to my Versace shades. :(

Rayban aviators will never go out of style. :cool:

[warbird00]

thank got my aunt used to be sponsored by Oakley and i got like 10 pair :p

any one wanna buy one? :D

[deserusan]

What is this now? Metrosexual central?

[Beejis60]

What is this now? Metrosexual central?

With Farang here, yes!

[deserusan]

This is like the runway scene in Zoolander.

[uhockey]

What is this now? Metrosexual central?

Okay Mr. Juicy Couture tracksuit. ;)

I'm gonna unleash magnum on this thread.

[deserusan]

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YkidVP0AcQ82Abqvhj-j44

tn1d5DmdMqYdRQPaoOwdbk

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644_ECCNy0Ic2MgwAJrfXo

[extremenergy3]

Was the youtube html just added to bb.com? That's frickin' sweet!

[uhockey]

Mr Cornell is a living legend. Drove up to see him in Toronto back in April, the second time I've seen him solo (also seen once with Soundgarden, twice with Audioslave,) and of the 100+ concerts I've been to in my lifetime I'd rank it in the top 5.

[Kledz]

This is like the runway scene in Zoolander.

At least its not the gas station scene.

[user4694231326]

Depends on what model, etc. Those Ray Bans I posted cost around $120ish.

oh....that's good. cheaper than what is sold here :o


What is this now? Metrosexual central?


With Farang here, yes!


:mad:

With a wide ass nose like mine, I'm the least qualified metrosexuals. :mad:




:D


This is like the runway scene in Zoolander.

:p it's not that bad. ;)

[Beejis60]

Des, what do you consider real music; acoustic classic guitar? BLS and John Mayer are a little bit different, except in those vids....
That's all good **** btw, I like stripped down music too.

[tdog69]

hmmmmmm I know there is a log here somewhere LOL....as far as shades, I stick with my cheap Okleys and wally world brand, " I am too destructive for the fancey Metrosexual fashion statement"

[deserusan]

Des, what do you consider real music; acoustic classic guitar? BLS and John Mayer are a little bit different, except in those vids....
That's all good **** btw, I like stripped down music too.

That's not acoustic classical guitar. Its being able to connect with an intrument whatever it may be, your voice, your guitar, etc and create a song which has the ability to ellicit both interest and emotion to your audience. Today's MTV pop culture while entertaining has certainly lowered the bar when it comes to music/art appreciation.

[Incinerated]

You are young...when you get as old as Ness I'm sure it will be up to 90lbs at least. :) I think I started with 50's around 16 and can now rep 130's with ease on an incline. :)


lol i can go higher, i was only kidding :)


oh and BTW... WTF is up with you being all... weird on us? (Sunglasses and all)
I want to see you in the gym throwing around weight that that Neanderthal Branch trains with.

(JUST FOR CLARIFICATION: METROSEXUAL ARE MEN WHO WERE BORN IN MENS BODYS BUT ARE FEMALE LESBIANS AND WILL NOT ADMIT IT)

[Beejis60]

That's not acoustic classical guitar. Its being able to connect with an intrument whatever it may be, your voice, your guitar, etc and create a song which has the ability to ellicit both interest and emotion to your audience. Today's MTV pop culture while entertaining has certainly lowered the bar when it comes to music/art appreciation.

Some of those guys were playing classically. Anyway, I agree on the MTV type of **** out there. Songs that have meaning with their lyrics have mostly disappeared to the "underground" which is fine with my because I love "underground" music.

[Kernkraft]

Didn't know you were an essential mix follower Des (just went through the Aplodan log) ... you ever been to Gatecrasher, Creamfields, Ibiza or any of the other big gigs? Went and saw Tiesto at Central Park a little while ago, crazyness.

[deserusan]

Some of those guys were playing classically. Anyway, I agree on the MTV type of **** out there. Songs that have meaning with their lyrics have mostly disappeared to the "underground" which is fine with my because I love "underground" music.

Classical music refers to the period of time between Bach and Beethoven technically, but the composition definition lies within the musical notation. These guys you might think are playing classical are actually playing a style called "heavy wood" denoted by Don Ross a few years back. Its a progressive acoustic guitar movement with heavy influence from John McLaughlin, Leo Kottke, etc.

[deserusan]

Didn't know you were an essential mix follower Des (just went through the Aplodan log) ... you ever been to Gatecrasher, Creamfields, Ibiza or any of the other big gigs? Went and saw Tiesto at Central Park a little while ago, crazyness.

I've been to the superclubs in England, Japan, Acapulco, and pretty much everywhere in the US. I'm trying to get Gaspari to sponsor an after party at one of the major shows this year or next but we'll see how that goes. :D

[Beejis60]

Classical music refers to the period of time between Bach and Beethoven technically, but the composition definition lies within the musical notation. These guys you might think are playing classical are actually playing a style called "heavy wood" denoted by Don Ross a few years back. Its a progressive acoustic guitar movement with heavy influence from John McLaughlin, Leo Kottke, etc.

I mean playing guitar "classically" as playing with all fingers like the blues and jazz players of the first half of the century, not like Bach and Beethoven, lol.

[dvsness]

Ffs, do you work out? There is no option for zero stars???

And your music sucks. Touch my car radio (yes, this one works) and I'll chop your fingers off.

[deserusan]

Ffs, do you work out? There is no option for zero stars???

And your music sucks. Touch my car radio (yes, this one works) and I'll chop your fingers off.

lol...you are so dead. :D

[getbustered]

Ffs


Favorite words of tonight, or just in general? ;):D

[Robboe]

Didn't know you were an essential mix follower Des (just went through the Aplodan log) ... you ever been to Gatecrasher, Creamfields, Ibiza or any of the other big gigs? Went and saw Tiesto at Central Park a little while ago, crazyness.

Most of Gatecrasher burned down in a fire on the weekend.

[naturalguy]

I've been to the superclubs in England, Japan, Acapulco, and pretty much everywhere in the US. I'm trying to get Gaspari to sponsor an after party at one of the major shows this year or next but we'll see how that goes. :D

How about a Gaspari party at the O?


Oh and buy your girl and MP3 player

[aznxdgnz]

hey man any new update?

[dvsness]

Favorite words of tonight, or just in general? ;):D

In general.


Oh and buy your girl and MP3 player

I knew I liked you.

[njmuscle66]

Hey
does anybody knows better supplements than these
http://muscomax.net/?ArtCreator

Pretty random and annoying, no?

Now I understand-you are spamming the entire board it seems. next time be a little more creative in your ads

[dsade]

Hey
does anybody knows better supplements than these
http://muscomax.net/?ArtCreator

I think you would get much better results putting deez in your mouth.


www.deeznutz.com

[thought_crime]

So what were the final results?

I see you lost 20lbs, mostly fat, but is that the final verdict? I'm gonna be running X-Factor w/ Melting Point as well, glad to see it seems to be working great with a solid diet and training of course.

[deserusan]

So what were the final results?

I see you lost 20lbs, mostly fat, but is that the final verdict? I'm gonna be running X-Factor w/ Melting Point as well, glad to see it seems to be working great with a solid diet and training of course.

It was a great stack.

[uhockey]

It was a great stack.

Maybe it was just great training and diet with pretty good supps?

[deserusan]

Maybe it was just great training and diet with pretty good supps?

Nah...it was really powerful. I've cut before, but this stack really put fat burning and anabolism into overdrive.