Deserusan's X-Factor, Melting Point, & Halodrol Liquigel Log/Review

[deserusan]

major ick.... i guess it COULD have been worse... I can't think of HOW... but it IS possible...

Well....she was sitting behind and we were stuck on the plane for another 20 minutes waiting for the door to open. That's when they turn the airflow off in cabin. YUCK!

We then had to walk in the rain to the terminal on the tarmack and the morons triggered an alarm which was deafening. Essentially, most of my senses were attacked within minutes of being in NY. Go figure...

[Zachattack43]

Well....she was sitting behind and we were stuck on the plane for another 20 minutes waiting for the door to open. That's when they turn the airflow off in cabin. YUCK!

We then had to walk in the rain to the terminal on the tarmack and the morons triggered an alarm which was deafening. Essentially, most of my senses were attacked within minutes of being in NY. Go figure...

WELCOME TO NEW YORK CITY:D

[lilpinki]

WELCOME TO NEW YORK CITY:D

i was ABOUT to say...

[user4694231326]

I had the worst traveling experience ever. The highlight was an old woman gettin **** on herself because of turbulence while using the bathroom. She then couldn't figure out how to unlock the door which caused quite a commotion. Needless to say, the plane smelled like bowels as we circled La Guardia for an extra half hour.

http://www.glen-l.com/weblettr/images/pumpkin-vomit.jpg

[livinonlava]

Good luck Ness!

Have fun des ;)

[retro_roots]

major ick.... i guess it COULD have been worse... I can't think of HOW... but it IS possible...

She could have shat on you...

[deserusan]

LOL....I'll get this updated later tonight. I'm getting a facial in a bit. :)

[The Brotherhood]

I'm getting a facial in a bit. :)

:eek:

[IrOnJeSs]

LOL....I'll get this updated later tonight. I'm getting a facial in a bit. :)

uh!?!

[deserusan]

:eek:


uh!?!

I'm pretty metro guys. Sorry to let you down. :)

[Zachattack43]

I'm pretty metro guys. Sorry to let you down. :)
oh really?

[user4694231326]

I'm pretty metro guys. Sorry to let you down. :)

Des are one huge metro with big lats.
;)

Unlike the ones in my gym, they are with invisible lats syndrome :p

[deserusan]

Des are one huge metro with big lats.
;)

Unlike the ones in my gym, they are with invisible lats syndrome :p

I've noticed ILS tends to afflict certain guys with beer guts who probably would not think twice wearing a plaid shirt to a wedding.

[jsweetness]

I had the worst traveling experience ever. The highlight was an old woman gettin **** on herself because of turbulence while using the bathroom. She then couldn't figure out how to unlock the door which caused quite a commotion. Needless to say, the plane smelled like bowels as we circled La Guardia for an extra half hour.

LOL.

[haiz69]

I've noticed ILS tends to afflict certain guys with beer guts who probably would not think twice wearing a plaid shirt to a wedding.

Hey....you know some of my friends?

[retro_roots]

Hey....you know some of my friends?

Nah, he just lives in Wisconsin :cool:

[deserusan]

Holla at jah boy!

I'm in Manhattan right now (Tribeca). It's been a long two days as we were getting Ness ready for her show. Lastnight I had to shave every inch of her which was a joy :rolleyes:.

I then had to spray her down about five times with Jan Tana so she's looking mighty dark. Needless to say, covering up her tatoo's with Dermablend was a chore too. Ugghh!

Alright, pre judging starts in a few minutes so I'll be back in a bit. :)

-D

[Mickfootie]

Holla at jah boy!

I'm in Manhattan right now (Tribeca). It's been a long two days as we were getting Ness ready for her show. Lastnight I had to shave every inch of her which was a joy :rolleyes:.

I then had to spray her down about five times with Jan Tana so she's looking mighty dark. Needless to say, covering up her tatoo's with Dermablend was a chore too. Ugghh!

Alright, pre judging starts in a few minutes so I'll be back in a bit. :)

-D

Tell her good luck Dan....

[deserusan]

Tell her good luck Dan....

Will do...I'm chilling for a bit right now. I just met Branch Warren and Even Centopani. Talk about some BIG dudes!

[G.W. Hayduke]

I've noticed ILS tends to afflict certain guys with beer guts who probably would not think twice wearing a plaid shirt to a wedding.
Sorry to make a funny subject serious...

But I've noticed that the ILS effect is sometimes a result of posture, not really a purposeful attempt to create "size". If you stand in a somewhat rigid, militaristic way, stomach in chest out, shoulders back, tailbone slightly tucked in, you'll end up with your arms flaring out slightly creating what might look like ILS. I first noticed this after spending some time with professional loggers... heh, don't ask. :)

[EMISGOD]

I had the worst traveling experience ever. The highlight was an old woman gettin **** on herself because of turbulence while using the bathroom. She then couldn't figure out how to unlock the door which caused quite a commotion. Needless to say, the plane smelled like bowels as we circled La Guardia for an extra half hour.

Did you NEG-rep her?

[deserusan]

Did you NEG-rep her?

I offered her a moist towelette. :)

[dvsness]

moist

I like that word.

[deserusan]

I like that word.

Since you are sitting next to me why couldn't you just tell me that? :D

[dvsness]

Since you are sitting next to me why couldn't you just tell me that? :D

Is that why you just kicked me?

And stop ****ign with my keyboard! :mad: It's hard to type with fake nails!!

[The Brotherhood]

Since you are sitting next to me why couldn't you just tell me that? :D


LOL. We need one of those doggies from Cliche romantic comedies (Flintstones comes to mind) that run around the couple with a leash and get them to cuddle.

Lmao@ the two of you sitting next to each other but on BB.com

Dorks! :p :o :D

[deserusan]

LOL. We need one of those doggies from Cliche romantic comedies (Flintstones comes to mind) that run around the couple with a leash and get them to cuddle.

Lmao@ the two of you sitting next to each other but on BB.com

Dorks! :p :o :D

Nice package! :D

[naturalguy]

LOL. We need one of those doggies from Cliche romantic comedies (Flintstones comes to mind) that run around the couple with a leash and get them to cuddle.

Lmao@ the two of you sitting next to each other but on BB.com

Dorks! :p :o :D

We need a webcam

[dvsness]

We need a webcam

I charge. ;)

[The Brotherhood]

Nice package! :D

Not that again!

[deserusan]

We need a webcam

No we don't. I've touched Vanessa's ass at least 30 times today with glue, oil, glaze, etc. It's lost it's appeal....for a bit. :)

[dvsness]

No we don't. I've touched Vanessa's ass at least 30 times today with glue, oil, glaze, etc. It's lost it's appeal....for a bit. :)

Remind me to pass gas when you have to glue me in for the night show.

Oh, and negged.

And sleeping on the COUCH!!!

[The Brotherhood]

No we don't. I've touched Vanessa's ass at least 30 times today with glue, oil, glaze, etc. It's lost it's appeal....for a bit. :)

It had an appeal before? :eek:


Ba-da-bing! :D

[dvsness]

It had an appeal before? :eek:


Ba-da-bing! :D

My ass > your package. :rolleyes: At least I'm packin'!

[The Brotherhood]

My ass > your package. :rolleyes: At least I'm packin'!

Hey, I was in the pool! There was significant...shrinkage!:eek:

/Seinfeld

[naturalguy]

My ass > your package. :rolleyes: At least I'm packin'!

OUCH!!!

[EMISGOD]

I like that word.

:)

How do you feel about the word "quilt"?

[TOMMANH]

I was thinking about doing this same stack but addig Novedex to it as well..would you recomened it????how would u rate this stack...have u had any complications thus far???any ideas..when should i take each of these???

[lilpinki]

My ass > your package. :rolleyes: At least I'm packin'!

lol

[deserusan]

I was thinking about doing this same stack but addig Novedex to it as well..would you recomened it????how would u rate this stack...have u had any complications thus far???any ideas..when should i take each of these???

Novedex would be overkill IMO. I haven't had any sides except for some increased DOMS. So far I would rate this stack as a 9.6 for recomping but I'm only 1.5 weeks into a 7 week log.

[RebelMeetsRebel]

I had the worst traveling experience ever. The highlight was an old woman gettin **** on herself because of turbulence while using the bathroom. She then couldn't figure out how to unlock the door which caused quite a commotion. Needless to say, the plane smelled like bowels as we circled La Guardia for an extra half hour.

sorry to hear that man. Be thankful though that you didnt have to endure 20 hours of flight time like I do when I visit family in Israel. That 12 hour flight across the atlantic can be brutal if something in that manner happens when you're seated next to the bathrooms (luckily it was only one time for me).

[dvsness]

It was well worth it since he got to spend the weekend with me.

[deserusan]

It was well worth it since he got to spend the weekend with me.

Agreed. I took some took a much needed break from training and enjoyed my weekend with Vanessa. :)

[AtownKing187]

GET BACK TO WORK DES!!!! (and by work..i mean liftin.) :D

[deserusan]

GET BACK TO WORK DES!!!! (and by work..i mean liftin.) :D

I was VERY distracted. :p

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[AtownKing187]

I was VERY distracted. :p

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/vanessamets1.jpg

Me too.. :D

I think she did a damn good job!

[user4694231326]

Me too.. :D

I think she did a damn good job!


I will just delete the words "I think".

She did HELL of A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I was VERY distracted. :p

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/deserusan/vanessamets1.jpg

May be you are still distracted :p


:D

[lilpinki]

I will just delete the words "I think".

She did HELL of A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




May be you are still distracted :p


:D

...i'm distracted.....

ness looked good!

[Robboe]

Novedex would be overkill IMO. I haven't had any sides except for some increased DOMS. So far I would rate this stack as a 9.6 for recomping but I'm only 1.5 weeks into a 7 week log.

And yet on page seven of a log and only scrapes of discussion...

*sob* You sold out man! *sob sob*

[Eyedentify]

Des

Do you have plans on running Novedex XT after the completion of your HLG cycle?

[deserusan]

And yet on page seven of a log and only scrapes of discussion...

*sob* You sold out man! *sob sob*

Save your tissues...we'll get into it. Don't forget we are on week two of seven. :)


Des

Do you have plans on running Novedex XT after the completion of your HLG cycle?

Nope...I'll be starting a new stack right after this one.

[Eyedentify]

Nope...I'll be starting a new stack right after this one.

I understand, but do you think its a good idea to run Novedex straight after HLG, what I mean is will it provide even greater gains? Will it provide additional strength and mass increase? Or its main purpose is only to taper off HLG better?

[deserusan]

I understand, but do you think its a good idea to run Novedex straight after HLG, what I mean is will it provide even greater gains? Will it provide additional strength and mass increase? Or its main purpose is only to taper off HLG better?

It's to maximize some of the effects HLG's have. Gains are contingent on your diet and training style so if it's there it will help.

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 8.8 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

Bentover Barbell Rows: 285lbs x 6, 285lbs x 6, 285lbs x 6

Dumbell Rows: 130lb'ers x 6, 130lb'ers x 6, 130lb'ers x 6

Close Neutral Grip Pulldowns: 230lbs x 6, 230lbs x 6, 230lbs x 6

Close Grip (rope) Rows: 180lbs x 6, 180lbs x 6, 180lbs x 6

superset w/

Pullovers: 80lbs x 10, 80lbs x 10, 80lbs x 10

Seated Dumbell Curls: 40lbs x 8/8, 40lbs x 8/8, 40lbs x 8/8

Concentration Curls: 25lbs x 10/10, 25lbs x 10/10, 25lbs x 10/10

Crunches: 20, 20, 20

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Leg Raises: 15, 15, 15

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes


Thoughts

After a few days off I was definately ready to get back into the gym. My reason for the break was because I was spending time with my sweetheart in New York. As a glutton at heart I couldn't resist her joining her in her post competition binge of peanut butter based junk food and pizza. I figured, this will be my last chance to have these things for awhile so why not enjoy myself.

Anyway, this training session was pretty brutal coming off a small break my body is always at 100% which means I can lift at 110%. This can be hard sometimes on the power weeks because while I can lift more weight I also need to focus on not injuring myself which means finding a heavy weight I can control with ease.

I haven't done barbell rows in awhile so it was nice to see I was able to pull some decent weight with good form. The rope rows felt really good too and I recommend you try them out. It offer a greater ROM in the concentric portion of the motion which allows for a deep squeeze to for a killer eccentric portion. You can almost feel ever fiber in your lats and low trap explode with stimulation.



Deserusan's Essential Workout Selection

http://www.jesterradio.com/images/Linkin%20Park%20-%20Hybrid%20Theory.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-DMAAcc6cE)

Linkin Park - Papercut



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[Eyedentify]

It's to maximize some of the effects HLG's have. Gains are contingent on your diet and training style so if it's there it will help.

To maximise the effect of HLG + Novedex is it required to have a really high caloric intake?

Say for example my usual calorie intake is 3000, is it required to bump it to say 4000 cals in order to get the optimal effect from HLG + NXT? Or just stay on 3000 would be alright?

[deserusan]

To maximise the effect of HLG + Novedex is it required to have a really high caloric intake?

Say for example my usual calorie intake is 3000, is it required to bump it to say 4000 cals in order to get the optimal effect from HLG + NXT? Or just stay on 3000 would be alright?

As always, a hypercaloric diet is best for bulking. At your weight I would probably be taking in about 3200 calories.

[Eyedentify]

As always, a hypercaloric diet is best for bulking. At your weight I would probably be taking in about 3200 calories.

Cool, thanks man!

[AtownKing187]

130's on db rows :eek: Damn good job there Des..i can only get 80's...:(

O,and do you do your pullovers straight arm'd or with a slight bent?

[deserusan]

O,and do you do your pullovers straight arm'd or with a slight bent?

Slight bend...it takes the stress of the triceps.

[AtownKing187]

Slight bend...it takes the stress of the triceps.

Yea i noticed that too..Looks like i need to get mine going...i can only do 60lbs.

[Robboe]

Save your tissues...we'll get into it. Don't forget we are on week two of seven. :)


Alright, but if not, you shall become to be known as Destallica.

[redhawk76]

The rope rows felt really good too and I recommend you try them out. It offer a greater ROM in the concentric portion of the motion which allows for a deep squeeze to for a killer eccentric portion. You can almost feel ever fiber in your lats and low trap explode with stimulation.


I tried these for the first time last week. On the sets where my form stayed perfect these felt incredible for the lats.

[deserusan]

I tried these for the first time last week. On the sets where my form stayed perfect these felt incredible for the lats.

It's better done with lighter weight for sure.

[zergling]

The rope rows felt really good too and I recommend you try them out. It offer a greater ROM in the concentric portion of the motion which allows for a deep squeeze to for a killer eccentric portion. You can almost feel ever fiber in your lats and low trap explode with stimulation.

I have to try this tomorrow :)




Deserusan's Essential Workout Selection
Linkin Park - Papercut

I loved both Hybrid Theory and Meteora. How I wish they would come out with another....

[dvsness]

I'm glad you came clean and admitted your gluttony. Reading your workout makes me very jealous - I can't wait to get back in the gym already! Too bad we didn't get to train together this trip. It's always great to have gym time with you.

[redhawk76]

It's better done with lighter weight for sure.

Ya I found that out quickly. Did you do it from the high cable on an angle, or straight like a normal seated cable row?

[Coulaid]

Are you holding much water from the MP?

[deserusan]

Are you holding much water from the MP?

Not that I can tell.

[jsweetness]

damn, your an animal. nice log so far.

[deserusan]

damn, your an animal. nice log so far.

You can call me Danimal if you like! ;)

[~~Aries~~]

You can call me Danimal if you like! ;)

Why, are you made of yogurt? ;) What's your flavor?

Sweet log so far and kick ass workouts. Lovin' Linkin Park of course:)

[deserusan]

Why, are you made of yogurt? ;) What's your flavor?

Sweet log so far and kick ass workouts. Lovin' Linkin Park of course:)

WORD!!!!! :p

[~~Aries~~]

So beneath that hard, muscular exterior lies an ooey, gooey, fruit-filled center?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of Des? :eek:

The world may never know :D

[EMISGOD]

So beneath that hard, muscular exterior lies an ooey, gooey, fruit-filled center?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of Des? :eek:

The world may never know :D

Yes, with any luck, we will continue to never know...

[dvsness]

No comment. :cool:

[deserusan]

No comment. :cool:

Congrats on winning the BB.com Transformation!!!! :D

[user4694231326]

Des. I will definitely try out close grip rope rows. I just imagine how the movements work now.

[zergling]

How many licks does it take to get to the center of Des? :eek:

The world may never know :D

I'm sure ness knows :eek: :D


No comment. :cool:

[deserusan]

I'm sure ness knows :eek: :D

lol

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.2 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

Leg Extensions: 300lbs (max) x 12, 300lbs x 12, 300lbs x 12,

Hack Squats: 450lbs x 8, 450lbs x 8, 450lbs x 8, 450lbs x 6

Single Leg Presses: 270lbs x 6/6, 270lbs x 6/6, 270lbs x 6/6, 270lbs x 6/6

Lying Single Leg Curls: 115lbs x 8/8, 115lbs x 8/8, 115lbs x 8/8


Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes


Thoughts

Cry? Ode to the Poor Sports of 2007 Transformation Contest (http://blog.bodybuilding.com/deserusan/2007/04/20/cry/)




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[dirtydean12]

great log you got here Des, nice numbers!

[user4694231326]

Des, your single leg press, is it 270lbs per side?
I do think so, given your size, power. That's some strong pressing right there, sir.

[AtownKing187]

Des, your single leg press, is it 270lbs per side?
I do think so, given your size, power. That's some strong pressing right there, sir.

im going to have to agree with you on that one...Great workout Des! :)

[user4694231326]

im going to have to agree with you on that one...Great workout Des! :)

That kinda of single leg press exercise done by him is simply shocking.

If he ever fights, I will stand aside.

He could step on small guy and he can crack under pressure...die. :p

[AtownKing187]

That kinda of single leg press exercise done by him is simply shocking.

If he ever fights, I will stand aside.

He could step on small guy and he can crack under pressure...die. :p

If he ever fights..im bringing my camera!!!

[deserusan]

Des, your single leg press, is it 270lbs per side?
.

LOL..no that's the total which is 3 x 45lbs per side. I do these with a six second negative though which is tough at full range.

[user4694231326]

LOL..no that's the total which is 3 x 45lbs per side. I do these with a six second negative though which is tough at full range.


:eek: now 6 secs negative is really hard to do.

[livinonlava]

Nice leg work as always des :) I just had a pretty kickin leg day myself. I'm still using your modified foot placements from time to time (try to mix it up), and I'm finally getting some strength with the lower/narrow stance. I cracked 1000 today for 3 sets of 7. I've even managed to add about an inch to my thigh measurement since February, heh. I much appreciate the help you've been over the past year.

[deserusan]

Nice leg work as always des :) I just had a pretty kickin leg day myself. I'm still using your modified foot placements from time to time (try to mix it up), and I'm finally getting some strength with the lower/narrow stance. I cracked 1000 today for 3 sets of 7. I've even managed to add about an inch to my thigh measurement since February, heh. I much appreciate the help you've been over the past year.

Thanks Tim and it's always my pleasure for dedicated lifters. What stack are you using now?

[livinonlava]

Thanks Tim and it's always my pleasure for dedicated lifters. What stack are you using now?

Well, after some careful consideration, I decided to venture off my familiar stack a little. I have 2 more months before I'm going to start a serious cut ( I'm looking to enter an NPC qualifier in November :) ). In an effort to maximise this time, I'm going to be using Aplodan, SizeOn, GAKIC, and bulk BA. SizeOn will be the new variable, so I'm curious to see what impact it will make on my training.

[deserusan]

Well, after some careful consideration, I decided to venture off my familiar stack a little. I have 2 more months before I'm going to start a serious cut ( I'm looking to enter an NPC qualifier in November :) ). In an effort to maximise this time, I'm going to be using Aplodan, SizeOn, GAKIC, and bulk BA. SizeOn will be the new variable, so I'm curious to see what impact it will make on my training.

It definately will help out. You should definately log or blog your journey because you never know who is watching! :p

[deserusan]

:eek: now 6 secs negative is really hard to do.

YES THEY ARE!!!! :)

[deserusan]

If he ever fights..im bringing my camera!!!

I'd confiscate the video or film. Evidence is what gets you in trouble. ;)

[dvsness]

I'd confiscate the video or film. Evidence is what gets you in trouble. ;)

That's why I said.




What?

[ltrik]

Sub---better late...u know the platitude

[deserusan]

Sub---better late...u know the platitude

Good to see you here. :)

[deserusan]

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album50/DSC_0029.sized.jpg

[Zachattack43]

Hi Casper, guess i wont call you boss anymore;)

[user4694231326]

I'd confiscate the video or film. Evidence is what gets you in trouble. ;)

if he films your fightings with a camera, I'll take care of that camera for ya. :p


http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album50/DSC_0029.sized.jpg

can i call you Desper? :p

[AtownKing187]

I'd confiscate the video or film. Evidence is what gets you in trouble. ;)

Pshh..I wouldn't post it on the internet or nuffin...:D ;)

[deserusan]

Pshh..I wouldn't post it on the internet or nuffin...:D ;)

I would! :p

[EMISGOD]

Do you ever do direct Forearm work, Dan?

[dvsness]

Do you ever do direct Forearm work, Dan?

At least once a day I hear. :p

[Zachattack43]

At least once a day I hear. :p

skeet skeet skeet

[EMISGOD]

At least once a day I hear. :p

With neutral, alternating-grip, I'm sure... :rolleyes:

:D

I should apparently have added the (no homo) tag...

[deserusan]

At least once a day I hear. :p

Zing!


skeet skeet skeet

Zach...you aren't Lil' Jon. ;)


With neutral, alternating-grip, I'm sure... :rolleyes:

:D

I should apparently have added the (no homo) tag...

I've cut down on my use of straps a lot so I've stopped doing direct forewarm work as well. They are pretty vascular these days and have bit more size because of it. :)

[rhaas]

What kind of Glutamine are you taking?

[Zachattack43]

What kind of Glutamine are you taking?

the same brand that Layne Norton recommended:D

[deserusan]

What kind of Glutamine are you taking?

Prolab...FWIW I bought it!

[deserusan]

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The Workout: 9.7 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

Incline Dumbell Bench Press: 140lb'ers x 5, 140lb'ers x 5, 140lb'ers x 5

Supine Dumbell Bench Press: 130lb'ers x 8, 130lb'ers x 8, 130lb'ers x 8

Slight Incline Dumbell Flyes: 60lb'ers x 8, 60lb'ers x 8, 60lb'ers x 8

Cable Flyes (upperchest): 80lbs (per side) x 6, 80lbs x 6, 80lbs x 6

Freemotion Dual Tricep Extensions (outer head): 90lbs (per side) x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10

Freemotion Dual Tricep Extensions (long head): 80lbs (per side) x 15, 80lbs x 15, 80lbs x 15

Crunches: 20, 20, 20

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes


Thoughts

I haven't really talked too much about side effects on this stack for good reason: I really haven't experienced any. Admittedly, my DOMS has increased a bit, but beyond that everything is steady as she goes. I don't mean to imply people that have had experienced side effects in the past are pussies, but it certainly is a possibility. ;)

Anyway, many of the benefits I have been experiencing have included increased vascularity, a better sense of muscle control, loss of fat, increased muscle fullness, and no muscle loss despite losing 8-9lbs as of today. This stack is really proving to be stellar for recomping. Maybe my results are a bit extreme because I did drop my calories a lot with my new diet, but regardless, it's worth the money.

Down the road I'm certainly going to stack Designer Supplements Activate which also contains 3',4'-divanil with X-Factor alone. Halodrol LG contains a synthetic version of 3'4'-divanil and I'm certainly interested in how divanil works in an extracted form. Based on the user feedback I'd say it looks very promising for me.




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[MuZI]

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album50/DSC_0029.sized.jpg

You guys look cute...

I'm just glad I was born tan. :)

[deserusan]

You guys look cute...

I'm just glad I was born tan. :)

How is school going?

[aznxdgnz]

I haven't really talked too much about side effects on this stack for good reason: I really haven't experienced any. Admittedly, my DOMS has increased a bit, but beyond that everything is steady as she goes. I don't mean to imply people that have had experienced side effects in the past are pussies, but it certainly is a possibility. ;)

Anyway, many of the benefits I have been experiencing have included increased vascularity, a better sense of muscle control, loss of fat, increased muscle fullness, and no muscle loss despite losing 8-9lbs as of today. This stack is really proving to be stellar for recomping. Maybe my results are a bit extreme because I did drop my calories a lot with my new diet, but regardless, it's worth the money.

Down the road I'm certainly going to stack Designer Supplements Activate which also contains 3',4'-divanil with X-Factor alone. Halodrol LG contains a synthetic version of 3'4'-divanil and I'm certainly interested in how divanil works in an extracted form. Based on the user feedback I'd say it looks very promising for me.



any significant loss of performance in the gym?

[deserusan]

any significant loss of performance in the gym?

Not one bit! I feel pretty damn strong actually.

[aznxdgnz]

Not one bit! I feel pretty damn strong actually.

holy knights of columbus! i must try this stack once i accumulate enough capital.

[AtownKing187]

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album50/DSC_0029.sized.jpg

I shall call you.....Whitey :)


O...Kickass workout! :D

[deserusan]

I shall call you.....Whitey :)


O...Kickass workout! :D

I still need to post my leg workout from yesterday. I'm a busy bee right now. :p

[AtownKing187]

I still need to post my leg workout from yesterday. I'm a busy bee right now. :p

Well i was behind in your log...lol

On a side note: I hate doing legs...

[dvsness]

Prolab...FWIW I bought it!

:)


Freemotion Dual Tricep Extensions (outer head): 90lbs (per side) x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10

Freemotion Dual Tricep Extensions (long head): 80lbs (per side) x 15, 80lbs x 15, 80lbs x 15


You're gonna' have to explain that.

[rhaas]

Prolab...FWIW I bought it!

Just curious. I could not find it in any of the posts. Thanks again!

[deserusan]

Just curious. I could not find it in any of the posts. Thanks again!

I probably should update my Bodyspace! ;)

[uhockey]

Down the road I'm certainly going to stack Designer Supplements Activate which also contains 3',4'-divanil with X-Factor alone. Halodrol LG contains a synthetic version of 3'4'-divanil and I'm certainly interested in how divanil works in an extracted form. Based on the user feedback I'd say it looks very promising for me.


Definitely would be interested in seeing your opinions on the difference. At some point down the road I want to give HLG a shot since I did extremely well on XF/AT.

Great log so far, albeit difficult to dig through the grabassing.

[haiz69]

Did someone say science? Just kidding Des. I AM looking foward to it though.

Especially since I will be starting an XF, MP, Scorch, and Activate cutting stack in a month or so.

[livinonlava]

When and where is your fall show, des (if I can ask)?

[Branch Chain Blink]

Great log so far, can't wait to see your results at the end :)

[deserusan]

When and where is your fall show, des (if I can ask)?

No set dat yet. Most likely late October early November.


Great log so far, can't wait to see your results at the end :)

Me too! :p

[livinonlava]

No set dat yet. Most likely late October early November.

How far out are you going to start the serious cutting? What (roughly) do you think your contest weight would be?

Please forgive the questions, but I'm trying to get a feel for my own plans.

[deserusan]

How far out are you going to start the serious cutting? What (roughly) do you think your contest weight would be?

Please forgive the questions, but I'm trying to get a feel for my own plans.

Probably about 16 weeks of serious cutting. I'm guessing I could step on stage at about 205lbs shredded. At least that's what I'm shooting for.

[livinonlava]

Probably about 16 weeks of serious cutting. I'm guessing I could step on stage at about 205lbs shredded. At least that's what I'm shooting for.

So like 35lb in 16 weeks??? :eek: It sounds like we'll be on a close schedule then, as I'm gonna start burning down in July. I'll be interested to discuss your approach to losing that kind of weight while maintaining muscle mass. I've never really messed with fatloss supps, but I imagine you have some insight in that arena as well. I'm hoping to top out at around 230 over the next few months, and I'm guessing my show weight to be around 200 as well. Time will tell :)

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.5 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

ATG Closed Stance Hacksquats (High foot placement partial movement): 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6

SLDL (Free Motion)*: 8, 8, 8, 8

Back Squats (Narrow Stance): 365lbs x 8, 365lbs x 8, 365lbs x 8

Single Lying Leg Curls: 90lbs x 8/8, 90lbs x 8/8, 90lbs x 8/8

Leg Extensions (six second negative + 2 second contraction hold): 300lbs x 6, 300lbs x 6, 300lbs x 6

Hybrid Calf Training

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes

* I'm not too sure about the actual weight


Thoughts

Tired!


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[Eyedentify]

I'm guessing I could step on stage at about 205lbs shredded. At least that's what I'm shooting for.

Awesome!

For natural competitions what is the usual standard for bf%?

I've heard from some people it is around 4% as trying to get lower than that without taking in exogenous testosterone would be very bad for health. Is this true?

[deserusan]

So like 35lb in 16 weeks??? :eek: It sounds like we'll be on a close schedule then, as I'm gonna start burning down in July. I'll be interested to discuss your approach to losing that kind of weight while maintaining muscle mass. I've never really messed with fatloss supps, but I imagine you have some insight in that arena as well. I'm hoping to top out at around 230 over the next few months, and I'm guessing my show weight to be around 200 as well. Time will tell :)

I guess when I actually start cutting I'll be down around 225lbs so it won't be as bad. I'll be cycling between Thyrotabs, Designer LX 2.0, Cytolean, X Factor, and Halodrol LG's throughout the process.


Awesome!

For natural competitions what is the usual standard for bf%?

I've heard from some people it is around 4% as trying to get lower than that without taking in exogenous testosterone would be very bad for health. Is this true?

Probably around 5% I would guess. In reality the illegal compounds some use for show prep in untested organizations far exceed exogenous test. It would most likely include some powerful duiretics and site injected steroids to bloat the muscle.

[Eyedentify]

Probably around 5% I would guess. In reality the illegal compounds some use for show prep in untested organizations far exceed exogenous test. It would most likely include some powerful duiretics and site injected steroids to bloat the muscle.

Untested organizations? You mean there are natural competitions that are untested? :confused:

[AtownKing187]

Holy smokes on the narrow squats Des!!! :eek:


EDIT:I feel kinda special after NL made those threads about us....:D

[user4694231326]

Des, isn't it hurtful to the crouch if you do narrow stance back squats?

I tried before and it was hurtful to me :o :(

I have to say I went :eek: (tunning on his shocking facial mode) when I saw yoru leg extensions and back squats. :eek:

[deserusan]

Des, isn't it hurtful to the crouch if you do narrow stance back squats?

I tried before and it was hurtful to me :o :(

I have to say I went :eek: (tunning on his shocking facial mode) when I saw yoru leg extensions and back squats. :eek:

Certainly not. My suggestion is to work on your core/lowerback strength with deadlifts and perhaps also assess your hamstring strength as well.

[5Six]

Killer workout, Big Guy. Keep up the great work :D

[ironhead184]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2447401

Hey Des, can you look at this and tell me what you think. You're pretty knowledgeable, so your opinion is always valuable. It's about the FDA's plans for supplements and it's pretty messed up. I went to the FDA website and couldn't find anything on it and haven't seen something like this on big time news like cnn, new york times, etc. I'm more leaning to this being false or just over dramatization.

Thanks

[ZDub212]

Forgive my ignorance, but what language is that on your banner? Japanese? How did you come to have an affinity towards this certain culture?

PS: The banner is very cool

PSS: You and Ness look fantastic in that pic

PSSS?: Excellent progress. This is a very exciting stack, and I hope to run something similar when I'm 21.

[aznxdgnz]

Forgive my ignorance, but what language is that on your banner? Japanese? How did you come to have an affinity towards this certain culture?

PS: The banner is very cool

PSS: You and Ness look fantastic in that pic

PSSS?: Excellent progress. This is a very exciting stack, and I hope to run something similar when I'm 21.

maybe hes a big japanese anime fan.

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.2 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

Hammer Strength Shoulder Press: 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6, 360lbs x 6

Standing Dumbells Laterals: 60lb'ers x 6, 60lb'ers x 6, 60lb'ers x 6

*Freemotion Front Raises: 8, 8, 8

Freemotion Single Rear Delt Laterals: 8, 8, 8

Barbell Shrugs: 405lbs x 8, 405lbs x 8, 405lbs x 8, 405lbs x 8

*Freemotion Tricep Extensions: 10, 10, 10, 10 superset w/

*Freemotion Curls: 10, 10, 10, 10

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes

* I'm not too sure about the actual weight


Thoughts

I need to sleep. Man, too much to do in too little time. I'll try and get these done earlier in the night!


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[livinonlava]

Is all this "Freemotion" stuff new equipment at your gym? I've seen you mentioning it in several workouts recently.

Also, if I really wanted to go after my legs when I come back from my little break, how might you arrange a split to hit them 2 times per week? And would you suggest 2 similar workouts or different ones focusing on a different part of the leg (quad vs. ham or even different parts of the quad)? I still lack thickness down around the knee... :o

[Robboe]

I am seeing tumbleweed rolling through your thoughts and discussions sections.

[RobertG623]

Des,

Would you recommend I stop taking Cissus while doing a cycle of the Halodrol Liquigels? I was taking it for a past shoulder inury.

Thanks,
Robert

[AtownKing187]

Are those bb shrugs..with or without straps?

[MuZI]

Now if only my shoulder workout was like that I would grow... :(

[deserusan]

Forgive my ignorance, but what language is that on your banner? Japanese? How did you come to have an affinity towards this certain culture?

PS: The banner is very cool

PSS: You and Ness look fantastic in that pic

PSSS?: Excellent progress. This is a very exciting stack, and I hope to run something similar when I'm 21.

Thanks Zach. My interest in Japan was actually born from my grandfather's very vocal hatred of the Japanese. He was a WWII Navy pilot that fought the war in the Pacific.

I spent my summers with my grandparents in a small beach community near Ferry Beach State Park. A day wouldn't go by where I didn't here "Jap" this or "Jap" that mixed in with all his crazy war stories. When he passed I was left with a sword that Kamikaze pilots flew with among a ton of other authentic Japanes WWII antiques.

Needless to say, I developed a keen fascination with WWII history and then Japanese culture. When I began my undergraduate studies I decided to take Japanese to meet my language requirement and actually had 8 semesters.

The tagname "deserusan" was actually a nickname given to me by a TA whom I was very fond of. In class I could be seen drinking a protein shake which seemed odd to most but he certainly respected due to my muscular frame hence the name "diesel" or deseru in Japanese.

You are correct in spotting the japanese in my new banner. It's katakana for Daniel...each symbol meaning da, nyu, e, ru:

http://www.rfsd.k12.wi.us/high/hsfl/kata-cha.gif

I also have a bunch of kanji in my avatar that is presently displayed. One frame is the seven virtues of bushido (rectitude-gi, courage- yu, benevolence-jin, respect-rei, honesty-makoto, honor-meiyo, loyalty-chugi). One is an japanese proverb, masakatsu agatsu, which means true victory is victory is self victory. Another frame is actually bushido, which is interpreted by some and myself as the "way of the warrior."

This ideology has influenced many cultures and might explain at times why I act the way I do on the forum. I take it pretty seriously at times. :)


maybe hes a big japanese anime fan.

Anime gives a me headache. I do like the graphic though. :)

[extremenergy3]

Thanks Zach. My interest in Japan was actually born from my grandfather's very vocal hatred of the Japanese. He was a WWII Navy pilot that fought the war in the Pacific.

I spent my summers with my grandparents in a small beach community near Ferry Beach State Park. A day wouldn't go by where I didn't here "Jap" this or "Jap" that mixed in with all his crazy war stories.

Needless to say, I developed a keen fascination with WWII history and then Japanese culture. When I began my undergraduate studies I decided to take Japanese to meet my language requirement and actually had 8 semesters.

The tagname "deserusan" was actually a nickname given to me by a TA whom I was very fond of. In class I could be seen drinking a protein shake which seemed odd to most but he certainly respected due to my muscular frame hence the name "diesel" or deseru in Japanese.

You are correct in spotting the japanese in my new banner. It's katakana for Daniel...each symbol meaning da, nyu, e, ru:

http://www.rfsd.k12.wi.us/high/hsfl/kata-cha.gif

I also have a bunch of kanji in my avatar that is presently displayed. One frame is the seven virtues of bushido (rectitude-gi, courage- yu, benevolence-jin, respect-rei, honesty-makoto, honor-meiyo, loyalty-chugi). One is an japanese proverb, masakatsu agatsu, which means true victory is victory is self victory. Another frame is actually bushido, which is interpreted by some and myself as the "way of the warrior."

This ideology has influenced many cultures and might explain at times why I act the way I do on the forum. I take it pretty seriously at times. :)



Anime gives a me headache. I do like the graphic though. :)

sou desu ka? kakkoii!

[deserusan]

sou desu ka? kakkoii!

You bet your ass its right and VERY cool. :)

[Eyedentify]

That is very interesting to know, I always been wondering what is the meaning of deserusan.

I thought it was "Daniel", but it turn out to be "diesel", LOL! :D

[getbustered]

Whick one is bushido?

And I'll say it again, is there anything you don't do? You never cease to amaze me. (no homo) :o

[deserusan]

Whick one is bushido?


The frame before the most muscular!

[livinonlava]

And I'll say it again, is there anything you don't do? You never cease to amaze me. (no homo) :o

BUMP to this (totally homo) :D

[IdiotAmerica]

The frame before the most muscular!

How would you compare melting point to e/c?

[uhockey]

How would you compare melting point to e/c?

Not as stimulating? ;)

[deserusan]

How would you compare melting point to e/c?

Well EC was the bomb. Nothing can really compare to it but I must say that using ephedrine as opposed to ephedra leaves little to be desired. It's just not the same really. I tried a few doses of ephedrine HCL on my off day to judge tolerance with Cytolean because I get asked so much (the Duchaine approach I call it) and it alone just isn't strong.

Melting Point is doing a good job in synergistic manner with X Factor because they both stimulate PPAR alpha. Tetradecylthioacetic Acid stimulates gene expression of PPAR alpha while Arachidonic Acid can be used to make leukotrienes act on PPAR alpha as well. I think they have a strong synergy which could explain why I've lost 8-9lbs of pure fat from what I can tell.

[zergling]

Hey Des! I also took Japanese in college for foreign language requirements. Unlike you, I barely passed the first 3 semesters, and completely failed the 4th. It was hard for me because outside of the actual classes, there wasn't really any way for me to practice unless I watch anime with english subtitles. I've been exposed to (American) english since I was 4 or 5 yr old and people still recognize that hint of Filipino accent on my pronounciation -- so I expected Japanese to give me a hard time. I got to a point where I can understand, say and/or write simple sentences, but everything fell apart when we got to strictly using kanji :(

Onaka ga sukima****a.

Nihonggo wa totemo muzukashii desu.

[deserusan]

Hey Des! I also took Japanese in college for foreign language requirements. Unlike you, I barely passed the first 3 semesters, and completely failed the 4th. It was hard for me because outside of the actual classes, there wasn't really any way for me to practice unless I watch anime with english subtitles. I've been exposed to (American) english since I was 4 or 5 yr old and people still recognize that hint of Filipino accent on my pronounciation -- so I expected Japanese to give me a hard time. I got to a point where I can understand, say and/or write simple sentences, but everything fell apart when we got to strictly using kanji :(

Onaka ga sukima****a.

Nihonggo wa totemo muzukashii desu.

I'm actually hungry too and Japanese was pretty hard at first. But when you are passionate about something and have great professors it becomes a bit easier.

[zergling]

But when you are passionate about something and have great professors it becomes a bit easier.

Yeah, I was not as dedicated to learning Japanese as my friends were (they were already reading Japanese books without english translation), as my first choice really was German (mother's side of the family is from Austria), but there weren't enough interested students so they dissolved the class. It also didn't help that I was doing 2 part-time jobs and training for table tennis varsity.

I had very good professors, but the second one was a young smoking hot female on her mid-twenties -- she can get quite distracting at times :D

[deserusan]

And I'll say it again, is there anything you don't do? You never cease to amaze me. (no homo) :o

I honestly don't pay a lot for car insurance.

[dvsness]

Not as stimulating? ;)

Lol.


the Duchaine approach I call it

Lol again.

[deserusan]

Lol.



Lol again.

That's some pretty piss poor "loling" if you ask me. How about a haha or a hardy har for some variety?

[dvsness]

Anime gives a me headache.

Anime porn is cool.


That's some pretty piss poor "loling" if you ask me. How about a haha or a hardy har for some variety?

How about you bite me? Or better yet, send me an IT person to figure out why my computer won't install the ****ing cable modem driver thingie? I hate technology.

[Zachattack43]

I honestly don't pay a lot for car insurance.

"15minutes can save you up to 15% on your car insurance" - Geico

[EMISGOD]

Animal porn is cool.

:eek:

:o Ok, that was weak. I admit it. I'm ashamed. :(

I apologize, Regulator...

[user4694231326]

those exercises will create some major DOMS on your shoulders, Des.

since you're in the power week, just like to know if you're resting 4 ~ 5 minutes as per P/RR/S recommended rest time?

[deserusan]

those exercises will create some major DOMS on your shoulders, Des.

since you're in the power week, just like to know if you're resting 4 ~ 5 minutes as per P/RR/S recommended rest time?

I rest maybe 120 seconds tops. I like to keep the workout fact paced and is definately one of the deviations from the strict P/RR/S protocol.

[ZDub212]

Thanks Zach. My interest in Japan was actually born from my grandfather's very vocal hatred of the Japanese. He was a WWII Navy pilot that fought the war in the Pacific.

I spent my summers with my grandparents in a small beach community near Ferry Beach State Park. A day wouldn't go by where I didn't here "Jap" this or "Jap" that mixed in with all his crazy war stories. When he passed I was left with a sword that Kamikaze pilots flew with among a ton of other authentic Japanes WWII antiques.

Needless to say, I developed a keen fascination with WWII history and then Japanese culture. When I began my undergraduate studies I decided to take Japanese to meet my language requirement and actually had 8 semesters.

The tagname "deserusan" was actually a nickname given to me by a TA whom I was very fond of. In class I could be seen drinking a protein shake which seemed odd to most but he certainly respected due to my muscular frame hence the name "diesel" or deseru in Japanese.

You are correct in spotting the japanese in my new banner. It's katakana for Daniel...each symbol meaning da, nyu, e, ru:

http://www.rfsd.k12.wi.us/high/hsfl/kata-cha.gif

I also have a bunch of kanji in my avatar that is presently displayed. One frame is the seven virtues of bushido (rectitude-gi, courage- yu, benevolence-jin, respect-rei, honesty-makoto, honor-meiyo, loyalty-chugi). One is an japanese proverb, masakatsu agatsu, which means true victory is victory is self victory. Another frame is actually bushido, which is interpreted by some and myself as the "way of the warrior."

This ideology has influenced many cultures and might explain at times why I act the way I do on the forum. I take it pretty seriously at times. :)



Anime gives a me headache. I do like the graphic though. :)

That is BEYOND cool. Quite the life you live there...eh? :D

[deserusan]

That is BEYOND cool. Quite the life you live there...eh? :D

Use to...now my crazy Aunt lives there.

[Zachattack43]

I rest maybe 120 seconds tops. I like to keep the workout fact paced and is definately one of the deviations from the strict P/RR/S protocol.

I rest 30-60seconds:D

[user4694231326]

I rest maybe 120 seconds tops. I like to keep the workout fact paced and is definately one of the deviations from the strict P/RR/S protocol.

Even with a 2 minutes rest time, I think your power workout definitely whacked you hard and some serious DOMS too, I supposed?

[deserusan]

Even with a 2 minutes rest time, I think your power workout definitely whacked you hard and some serious DOMS too, I supposed?

LOL...nice avi. Actually, my DOMS has subsided a bit despite hitting it pretty hard. I need to post up the back workout from Thursday still but it was straight giant sets using seven exercises. No soreness issues today.

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.9 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

Dumbell Pullovers: 80lbs x 10, 80lbs x 10, 80lbs x 10, 80lbs x 10

superset w/

Double Arm Dumbell Rows: 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10, 50lb'ers x 10

superset w/

Wide Grip Pull Downs: 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10

superset w/

Close Grip Cable Rows: 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10, 150lbs x 10

superset w/

*FreeMotion Angels: 10, 10, 10, 10

superset w/

Wide Grip Deadlifts (Sarcev Style): 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10

Dual Arm Overhead Dumbell Extensions (from pause): 30lb'ers x 10,10, 30lb'ers x 10/10, 30lb'ers x 10/10

superset w/

*Close Grip Freemotion Extensions: 15, 15, 15

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes

* Unknown Weight


Thoughts

I've decided to switch my split up a bit. I've switched biceps and triceps training around and have added a light arm workout on shoulder day. Since it seems like my recovery is up a bit I from the Halodrol Liquigels I will certainly be pushing myself a bit more. I've also reverse the P/RR/S order to P/S/RR.

This workout was in part based around a recent Flex Magazine article about Milos Sarcev training a few pros at his gym. Normally, I don't read Flex but decided to pick up a copy for the plane ride home along with a Scientific American. Needless to say, I was a little shocked to see both the Hydrid Calf Training by James Lewis (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow30.htm) and the intense giant set style of Milos Sarcev (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow52.htm) included. These have been featured on the Fit Show (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow.htm) for months and I'm glad to see it's finally catching on.

Also, if you are a fan of Milos Sarcev he is holding a free seminar at his gym in May. Registration can be done here (http://www.wpse.com/milos.asp) and this is one opportunity not to be missed. I'm tempted to go....

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i550820_0.jpg


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[MuZI]

I don't understand the reason for using the P/S/RR instead?

[deserusan]

I don't understand the reason for using the P/S/RR instead?

I felt like switching it up. No reason really. :D

[The Brotherhood]

des, how are you liking Sarcev's giant set method? How are the gains? Do you not feel that it is excessive on a daily basis with little room for progressive power overload?

I had a Sarcev style leg day and it kicked my butt, no doubt. It really manned me up again; but I could not help but feel that id be making better gains off say a 10 x 5 squat routine than a routine that has me doing bodyweight squats holding onto something, no matter how much it hurts.

Thoughts?

[deserusan]

des, how are you liking Sarcev's giant set method? How are the gains? Do you not feel that it is excessive on a daily basis with little room for progressive power overload?

I had a Sarcev style leg day and it kicked my butt, no doubt. It really manned me up again; but I could not help but feel that id be making better gains off say a 10 x 5 squat routine than a routine that has me doing bodyweight squats holding onto something, no matter how much it hurts.

Thoughts?

I think it is excessive on a daily basis and why I would cycle it in once every three weeks for a given body part except for maybe legs. The gains are good because it's excellent at stimulating the muscle and almost force feeding it with carbs if you take them during your workout (recommended for this).

For strength gains this obviously has a disadvantage and is why I only recommend it to advanced athletes. I myself and am not concerned with strength because I am already strong. I'm also focused on developing my physique and am not powerlifting.

The key here is variety.

[The Brotherhood]

I think it is excessive on a daily basis and why I would cycle it in once every three weeks for a given body part except for maybe legs. The gains are good because it's excellent at stimulating the muscle and almost force feeding it with carbs if you take them during your workout (recommended for this). My WMS during the workout would have hit home then :D. Were talking glycogen supercompensation here?


For strength gains this obviously has a disadvantage and is why I only recommend it to advanced athletes. I myself and am not concerned with strength because I am already strong. I'm also focused on developing my physique and am not powerlifting.

The key here is variety.

Gotcha

[deserusan]

My WMS during the workout would have hit home then :D. Were talking glycogen supercompensation here?


Yes sir. It also make you wonder why people are buying into Anabolic Scam (I mean Pump). ;) Creatine alone enhances glycogen storage in muscle without having to manipulate GLUT4 translocation which cannot be stopped in adipose tissue like some would make you believe.

The bottom line, there is no actual Holy Grail but rather a clear deception of what really is truth. Ever read the Davinci Code? ;)

Here are some good references:

van Loon LJ, Murphy R, Oosterlaar AM, Cameron-Smith D, Hargreaves M, Wagenmakers AJ, Snow R. Creatine supplementation increases glycogen storage but not GLUT-4 expression in human skeletal muscle. Clin Sci (Lond). 2004 Jan;106(1):99-106

Nelson AG, Arnall DA, Kokkonen J, Day R, Evans J. Muscle glycogen supercompensation is enhanced by prior creatine supplementation.Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2001 Jul;33(7):1096-100.

[The Brotherhood]

The second study is of particular interest. Creatine apparently is not only anabolic through its intramuscular water retention and ADP->ATP conversion, but helps with glycogen supercompensation too. Sweet!

Btw, have you got any of my pms? Ive sent you a couple over the last week, with no responses. Busy much? :eek:

[deserusan]

Btw, have you got any of my pms? Ive sent you a couple over the last week, with no responses. Busy much? :eek:

LOL...yeah I got them and I have been busy. I'll definately "stop by" though. :)

[AtownKing187]

BAH you and your giant sets!!!!!! :D :D

Sarcev style deads are the best...i switch between regular and themall the time..I love 'em!

[user4694231326]

Des, I think your shocking method is kinda customized from Milos. ;) The man knows his stuff well. I wish I am in America and I will go to that seminar :(

I never attempt the WG Deadlift before but decided to give it a try after watching his fitshow. Damn, that's good.

His shock method really hits home. I tried the legs one before and I nearly throw up because of the intensity those giant sets brought upon :eek:

I do agree the hybrid calves training is one of the best calves training method I have seen for years.

[deserusan]

Des, I think your shocking method is kinda customized from Milos. ;) The man knows his stuff well. I wish I am in America and I will go to that seminar :(

I never attempt the WG Deadlift before but decided to give it a try after watching his fitshow. Damn, that's good.

His shock method really hits home. I tried the legs one before and I nearly throw up because of the intensity those giant sets brought upon :eek:

I do agree the hybrid calves training is one of the best calves training method I have seen for years.

These training methods are great. The first time I tried Hybrid Calf Training I was sore for a week. I've pissed off a few people that I've talked into trying it as well. :)

[user4694231326]

These training methods are great. The first time I tried Hybrid Calf Training I was sore for a week. I've pissed off a few people that I've talked into trying it as well. :)

LOL :D

[dvsness]

Nice avy. :)

[spirit3530]

I think it is excessive on a daily basis and why I would cycle it in once every three weeks for a given body part except for maybe legs. The gains are good because it's excellent at stimulating the muscle and almost force feeding it with carbs if you take them during your workout (recommended for this).

For strength gains this obviously has a disadvantage and is why I only recommend it to advanced athletes. I myself and am not concerned with strength because I am already strong. I'm also focused on developing my physique and am not powerlifting.

The key here is variety.
first time poster and glad I stopped in for this nugget of wisdom.

[deserusan]

Nice avy. :)

Aye...time to get shredded though!


first time poster and glad I stopped in for this nugget of wisdom.

Thanks man. Give it a shot and I'm sure you'll be impressed. :)

[haiz69]

Looking very big des. Props.

[deserusan]

Looking very big des. Props.

Thanks man.:p

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.8 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

** Sets performed with 6 second eccentric motion

**Back Squats: 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12

superset w/

Walking Dumbell Lunges: 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces

superset w/

**Hack Squats: 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10

superset w/

**Reverse Hack Squats: 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10, 90lbs x 10

superset w/

**SLDL (FreeMotion***): 10, 10, 10, 10

superset w/

Walking Dumbell Lunges: 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces, 40lb'ers x 26 paces

superset w/

**Front Squats: 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12, 135lbs x 12

Precor Stationary Bike: 10 minutes

*** Unknown Weight


Thoughts

I'm one sore guy....


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[dvsness]

Cry? :p


Why don't you know the weight used on FreeMotion? Are the plates unmarked?

[deserusan]

Cry? :p


Why don't you know the weight used on FreeMotion? Are the plates unmarked?

They are marked 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6....I don't think they are ten pound increments either.

[retro_roots]

Dumb question time: Whats "freemotion"?

[dvsness]

http://www.freemotionfitness.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&top_category=10009&categoryId=10010

[retro_roots]

Looks like a bunch of fancy versions of the Cable Crossover setup. But I imagine the are affective espically more so than a fixed machine setup for isolation moves.

[Zachattack43]

http://www.freemotionfitness.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&top_category=10009&categoryId=10010

ahh they are popular in golds, i like some of them

[deserusan]

Looks like a bunch of fancy versions of the Cable Crossover setup. But I imagine the are affective espically more so than a fixed machine setup for isolation moves.

I like them because they offer a different type of resistance then Im used to. My gym just bought four machines so I'm trying them out.

[user4694231326]

Des, I was checking if you posted your shock legs workout. There you are!

Geeeez! You're sore man (still pissed :mad: off ) ? :D

There is a few freemotion in my local gym too. I must say they do offer a little different type of resistance. E.g. the freemotion cable crossover definitely requires the person to have better control. Otherwise the swivel pulleys tend to flip-flap.

I wish we have more of those freemotion seated quad & freemotion squat machines.

[livinonlava]

I like them because they offer a different type of resistance then Im used to. My gym just bought four machines so I'm trying them out.

It's cool that you're not afraid of throwing machines into the mix. I get tired of 145lb kids trying to tell me that you can only "get swole" with free-weights. Machines often give "better" resistance on the eccentric portion of the motion, and I think we agree on the value of that. Bottom line: in the endless pursuit of throwing different angles at your ever-adapting body, machines like these freemotion things are an excellent bit of variety to incorporate -- Bob's your uncle!

[sobelik]

those freeemotion machines look pretty cool...

[deserusan]

It's cool that you're not afraid of throwing machines into the mix. I get tired of 145lb kids trying to tell me that you can only "get swole" with free-weights. Machines often give "better" resistance on the eccentric portion of the motion, and I think we agree on the value of that. Bottom line: in the endless pursuit of throwing different angles at your ever-adapting body, machines like these freemotion things are an excellent bit of variety to incorporate -- Bob's your uncle!

LOL...fortunately no one lectures me at the gym but rather they just get out of my way. As I mentioned in your training log, my arms respond much better to lighter weights probably due in part to the fact I train heavy with back and chest days.

Regardless, the FreeMotion really allows a more dynamic plane of force application that free weights cannot provide with movements that are not linear. I'm noticing some good things in my arms which is always welcome. Particularly, I've always had trouble really hitting my inner bicep and the long tricep head. With the FreeMotion it's no problem at all.


those freeemotion machines look pretty cool...

It truly is. The owner of my gym has really put a lot of money into the gym in the past few months. He even added a pimp spa and all the cardio equipment have personal monitors for TV/DVD.

http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0099.jpg

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.2 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***

** Sets performed with 6 second eccentric motion

**Cable Flyes: 50lbs (per side) x 12, 50lbs x 12, 50lbs x 12, 50lbs x 12

superset w/

**Dips: BW x 10, BW x 10, BW x 10, BW x 10

superset w/

**Dumbell Flyes: 40lb'ers x 10, 40lb'ers x 10, 40lb'ers x 10, 40lb'ers x 10

superset w/

**Incline Dumbell Presses: 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10

superset w/

**Supine Bench Press: 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10

superset w/

**Decline Bench Press: 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10, 155lbs x 10

FreeMotion*** Knuckle Curls: 12, 12, 12

suprset w/

Dumbell Curls: 40lb'ers x 10/10, 40lb'ers x 10/10, 40lb'ers x 10/10

Precor Elliptical: 20 minutes

*** Unknown Weight


Thoughts

Another ridiculous workout almost plagiarized straight from Flex Magazine. I'll be honest with you, I'm never really impressed with what I see in magazines in terms of workout advice but obviously, since its Sarcev influenced you know it will kick ass.

Since I did this workout two days ago (I'm a bit behind in the log), I can tell you my chest is pretty sore right now. What's great though is that it looks really full in all areas.

Also, you'll probably notice an exercise in the bicep portion of my workout you have never scene before: Knuckle Curls. Maybe there is a different name for them, so if I'm stepping on some toes I'm sorry. Essentially, try leaning forward in most musclular position with you palms facing you. Now flex you biceps back and forth and you should notice that this motion really hits the outer peak of bicep. I find its pretty easy to do these on the FreeMotion machine so give them a shot.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[extremenergy3]

Heads up! Check out the transformation thread!

[deserusan]

Heads up! Check out the transformation thread!

Aye...it should be a fun journey. Congrats to you to sir! :)

[aznxdgnz]

LOL...fortunately no one lectures me at the gym but rather they just get out of my way. As I mentioned in your training log, my arms respond much better to lighter weights probably due in part to the fact I train heavy with back and chest days.

Regardless, the FreeMotion really allows a more dynamic plane of force application that free weights cannot provide with movements that are not linear. I'm noticing some good things in my arms which is always welcome. Particularly, I've always had trouble really hitting my inner bicep and the long tricep head. With the FreeMotion it's no problem at all.



It truly is. The owner of my gym has really put a lot of money into the gym in the past few months. He even added a pimp spa and all the cardio equipment have personal monitors for TV/DVD.

http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0099.jpg
:eek:
i wish my gym owner can afford at least one tv in the cardio section...

[user4694231326]

Des, that's another great workout.

I do agree the Great Sarcev did mention the kind of arm exercise (Knuckle curls). It hit the outer biceps very well.

He coached the dude in fitshow demonstrating in one arm basis, the multiple angle to hit the biceps.

One question, did you perform yours the same, one arm knuckle curl or double arm?

Congrats to you being selected for the transformation contest.


edit: you have reminded me a few exercises i have neglected, thank you.
I must spread some peanut butter love before adding Deserusan's reputation again.

[retro_roots]

Des is the gym you go to in Madison (I dont know if you still live there)?

And are we going to see any discussion of the mechanisms and syenergy of the stack :hopeful:?

[ltrik]

Well EC was the bomb. Nothing can really compare to it but I must say that using ephedrine as opposed to ephedra leaves little to be desired. It's just not the same really. I tried a few doses of ephedrine HCL on my off day to judge tolerance with Cytolean because I get asked so much (the Duchaine approach I call it) and it alone just isn't strong.

Melting Point is doing a good job in synergistic manner with X Factor because they both stimulate PPAR alpha. Tetradecylthioacetic Acid stimulates gene expression of PPAR alpha while Arachidonic Acid can be used to make leukotrienes act on PPAR alpha as well. I think they have a strong synergy which could explain why I've lost 8-9lbs of pure fat from what I can tell.

Des:
I apologize in advance if this question(s) has been asked:

1) Melting Point recommends taking 6 per-day if you are 200 pounds, which I assume you are. However, looking at page 1, you take 4 per-day. It appears you have been successful with that amount, do you attribute that success to the stack with XFACTOR? I often think they manufacturer's often have you consume more then is necessary (some, not all). To date I have taken the ECA stack--but would like to try something else, if for no other reason, to mix it up some.

2) I took, and did get positive results, from HG; but I had to stop after an injury occurred. I am now into my cutting season (considering a master's contest); do you find HG enhances BF loss? Some believe it should be used only during a "bulk."

3) AA is present in both HG and XFACTOR, I assume there is a logical reason that you are taking both?

4) XFACTOR recommends consuming an additional 500-1000 calories a day, yet you are on a "cut" for your contest. Has this affected you negatively?

[dvsness]

peanut butter love

You rang?


Des is the gym you go to in Madison (I dont know if you still live there)?

He'll be here in 9 days and I'm building a trap. He'll never see that gym again!

*evil laugh*

[user4694231326]

You rang?




peanut butter ... you like? ;)

[retro_roots]

I wanted to know because there is a good chance I'll end up either Studying or Working in Madison in the future and good gyms are hard to come by.

[Robboe]

Also, you'll probably notice an exercise in the bicep portion of my workout you have never scene before: Knuckle Curls. Maybe there is a different name for them, so if I'm stepping on some toes I'm sorry. Essentially, try leaning forward in most musclular position with you palms facing you. Now flex you biceps back and forth and you should notice that this motion really hits the outer peak of bicep. I find its pretty easy to do these on the FreeMotion machine so give them a shot.

Just curious, do you genuinely believe you can target different areas of your bicep depending upon the movement?

[warbird00]

damn, those tread mills are insane!! look like some futuristic ****, lol
the treadmills at the gym i work at/work out at at home have TVs in em, but those look way cooler

[deserusan]

Just curious, do you genuinely believe you can target different areas of your bicep depending upon the movement?

Yes.....essentially the degree of rotation of your wrist is what allows for this.

[Zachattack43]

Yes.....essentially the degree of rotation of your wrist is what allows for this.

and what about grip?
Not sure if this is correct, but wider grip for inner bicep muscle, narrow grip for outside??

[Skull Crusher Chris]

Awesome workout man! Your workouts just keep impressing me, I can't wait till I get workouts like your getting on a regular basis:D Keep it up!

[Eyedentify]

Des

For someone with my current weight, what would you recommend for the dosage of HLG?

[deserusan]

Des

For someone with my current weight, what would you recommend for the dosage of HLG?

3 per day with meals.

[Eyedentify]

3 per day with meals.

Thanks man!

[fitnfirm]

Yes.....essentially the degree of rotation of your wrist is what allows for this.


Ya, please explain this in Des detail, I fail to see rotation of wrist to have any impact on targeting certain areas of the bicep :confused: I can see placement of hands on bar being a factor.


Kathy awaits huge novel by the time she gets back from morning cardio :D

[aznxdgnz]

hey des do you use DOMS to gauge how your workout was?

[boyscouT]

Thanks for the package Dan. :)

[deserusan]

Ya, please explain this in Des detail, I fail to see rotation of wrist to have any impact on targeting certain areas of the bicep :confused: I can see placement of hands on bar being a factor.


Kathy awaits huge novel by the time she gets back from morning cardio :D

Heh....just flex your bicep using varying wrist rotations. A lot of lifters don't realize this because the weight they use is too heavy,


hey des do you use DOMS to gauge how your workout was?

No...my workout scale (1-10) is based on how stimulated, exhausted, and just how I felt about the workout.


Thanks for the package Dan. :)

Anytime, I honestly forgot what I gave you samples of but I know it was a lot. :)

[EMISGOD]

Thanks for the package Dan. :)

... :confused:

[deserusan]

... :confused:

I sent him a bunch of samples I received at the Arnold.

[EMISGOD]

I sent him a bunch of samples I received at the Arnold.

You big teddy bear, you! :D

[Zachattack43]

and what about grip?
Not sure if this is correct, but wider grip for inner bicep muscle, narrow grip for outside??

bump for this

[wrestler707]

damn, those tread mills are insane!! look like some futuristic ****, lol
the treadmills at the gym i work at/work out at at home have TVs in em, but those look way cooler

That's what I was thinking. Our treadmills are better in my opinion. The tv built in with all the cool graphs it makes is entertaining. (Warbird00 and I have been to the same gym)

[deserusan]

Des:
I apologize in advance if this question(s) has been asked:

1) Melting Point recommends taking 6 per-day if you are 200 pounds, which I assume you are. However, looking at page 1, you take 4 per-day. It appears you have been successful with that amount, do you attribute that success to the stack with XFACTOR? I often think they manufacturer's often have you consume more then is necessary (some, not all). To date I have taken the ECA stack--but would like to try something else, if for no other reason, to mix it up some.?

Both AA + TTA stimulate PPAR by different mechanisms. I'm staying with four caps a day to avoid side effects and feel I don't need anymore.



2) I took, and did get positive results, from HG; but I had to stop after an injury occurred. I am now into my cutting season (considering a master's contest); do you find HG enhances BF loss? Some believe it should be used only during a "bulk."?

AI's + ECDY + AA can be used bulking or cutting.



3) AA is present in both HG and XFACTOR, I assume there is a logical reason that you are taking both?

I'm a bigger guy and can handle more AA.



4) XFACTOR recommends consuming an additional 500-1000 calories a day, yet you are on a "cut" for your contest. Has this affected you negatively?

Not at all.


bump for this

Yes Zach....that too when using a straight bar.

[jsweetness]

bump for this

yes, but i think it has more to do with the relation of your elbow to your body....as in the more its "flared" out, the more it will effect the outside bicep.

[Zachattack43]

Yes Zach....that too when using a straight bar.
:D thank you boss

yes, but i think it has more to do with the relation of your elbow to your body....as in the more its "flared" out, the more it will effect the outside bicep.
I always keep my elbow in....ALWAYS

[deserusan]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1547/hlgxfmpfinalqp3.gif



The Workout: 9.9 out of 10

***I'm excluding all warm-up sets***


FreeMotion Lateral Raises: 10, 10, 10, 10

superset w/

FreeMotion Bentover Raises: 10, 10, 10, 10

superset w/

Dumbell Presses: 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10, 60lb'ers x 10

superset w/

Seated Dumbell Lateral Raises: 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10

superset w/

Bentover Dumbell Raises: 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10, 20lb'ers x 10

superset w/

Snatches: 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10, 135lbs x 10

superset w/

Upright Rows: 65lbs x 10, 65lbs x 10, 65lbs x 10, 65lbs x 10

Crunches: 30, 30, 30




Thoughts

Man, my shoulders were popping after this workout. The last two sets were awfully painful to say the least. What was funny is that I get a lot of stares from other gym patrons conducting these giant set workouts. I'm not afraid to get loud and throw dumbells around when things get intense.

This workout was a few days ago and still, my lower traps are really sore. I actually had a massage yesterday which proved to be quite painful because of this.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/144/hlgxfmpfinalsmallxo5.gif

[user4694231326]

Thoughts

Man, my shoulders were popping after this workout. The last two sets were awfully painful to say the least. What was funny is that I get a lot of stares from other gym patrons conducting these giant set workouts. I'm not afraid to get loud and throw dumbells around when things get intense.

This workout was a few days ago and still, my lower traps are really sore. I actually had a massage yesterday which proved to be quite painful because of this.



I really do not understand how you recover so well. It look like your muscles are whacked by the time you hit the DB laterals. You dropped your poundages then.

All a sudden you hit it with a snatches as heavy as 135lbs :eek: I can imagine you yelling like a Alpha Male ROARRRRR!!!

Des, do you take maintenance dosing of bulk BA for recovery? any other recovery products you high recommend? :)

[deserusan]

I really do not understand how you recover so well. It look like your muscles are whacked by the time you hit the DB laterals. You dropped your poundages then.

All a sudden you hit it with a snatches as heavy as 135lbs :eek: I can imagine you yelling like a Alpha Male ROARRRRR!!!

Des, do you take maintenance dosing of bulk BA for recovery? any other recovery products you high recommend? :)

Heh..I do recommend bulk beta-alanine for general health and endurance purposes. Frankly, some of these BS capped products piss me off because they are charging $0.40 per gram of BA when you can buy it for $0.06 a gram as powder. Considering it's highly soluble and tastless I don't see ANY reason to buy it in the more expensive form. 2-4 grams a day is generally recommended.

For recovery purposes I only really recommend a free form BCAA product and to the more advanced athlete perhaps some high dosed glutamine. I'm really like the research on myokine production and oral glutamine has a direct impact on this post workout.

[bongd]

Damn, Dan. I noticed that you really post late!! :eek:

[pu12en12g]

The owner of my gym has really put a lot of money into the gym in the past few months. He even added a pimp spa and all the cardio equipment have personal monitors for TV/DVD.

http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0099.jpg

Holy

Shiat

[5Six]

I gotta ask. Is that just one huge super set for your delt workout? Or was it only two exercises were super setted?

[Free Weight Friedel]

Lol.



Lol again.(Hardy Har Har, HAHA)

Fixed


That's some pretty piss poor "loling" if you ask me. How about a haha or a hardy har for some variety?


Anime porn is cool.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/Phantom_Marishka/13047.jpg

How about you bite me? Or better yet, send me an IT person to figure out why my computer won't install the ****ing cable modem driver thingie? I hate technology.


Hardy har Har!!!

[deserusan]

I gotta ask. Is that just one huge super set for your delt workout? Or was it only two exercises were super setted?

Those were all supersetted. Essentially, one of Sarcev's theories behing this training protocol is that it forces glycogen supercompensation. If you aren't injesting carbs while you do this you can actually do more harm than good but since I'm taking SizeON its all good. I'm fairly certain his new line of supplements will carry a periworkout carb drink.

[5Six]

Those were all supersetted. Essentially, one of Sarcev's theories behing this training protocol is that it forces glycogen supercompensation. If you aren't injesting carbs while you do this you can actually do more harm than good but since I'm taking SizeON its all good. I'm fairly certain his new line of supplements will carry a periworkout carb drink.

The theory makes perfect sense. I am lookin' forward to the new line of supplements. Thanks for the info.

[boyscouT]

Anytime, I honestly forgot what I gave you samples of but I know it was a lot. :)
4 SuperPump250
3 CytoLean
2 SizeOn
+ much more

I'm gonna enjoy em!

[deserusan]

4 SuperPump250
3 CytoLean
2 SizeOn
+ much more

I'm gonna enjoy em!

I had to split the Gaspari samples between you and Gigs. Enjoy :)

[deserusan]

Holy

Shiat

Aye..the gym owner likes to show off and its fine by me!!! :)

http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0174.jpg
http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0151.jpg

[boyscouT]

I had to split the Gaspari samples between you and Gigs. Enjoy :)
He better not have gotten any SuperPump250 Blue Raspberry :mad: :p.

That supplement is truly 10/10 for flavor.

[MuZI]

That's a very pretty gym.

I wouldn't feel like a homo going there at all des... :evil grin:

[bongd]

Aye..the gym owner likes to show off and its fine by me!!! :)

http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0174.jpg
http://www.capitalfitness.net/images/JPG/DSC_0151.jpg

WTFBBQ!! Balling gym!!

What happened to the dingy **** hole gyms with duct tape on all the benches and weights that don't weigh out properly? :D

[deserusan]

That's a very pretty gym.

I wouldn't feel like a homo going there at all des... :evil grin:

True story....someone stuck a bunch of gay porn mags in my gym bag once as a joke. I guess someone was trying to convert me. :cool:

[deserusan]

WTFBBQ!! Balling gym!!

What happened to the dingy **** hole gyms with duct tape on all the benches and weights that don't weigh out properly? :D

Dats how we do! I'm rockin' teh stunna shades in the avi too! :D

[5Six]

Thats a great looking gym.

In the second pic is that a huge ass fan?