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BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 12:04 PM

Okay, originally this was to be a bulk as I'm wanting to gain a few more lbs of muscle, about 3 lbs to make me an even 120 lbs LEAN. Well, now I'm just calling it an experiment because I think this is going to turn out to be a metabolism booster more than anything else as I really don't think I am going to be able to hit my goal weight of 150 lbs in 2 months on 2500-2700 calories. One reason is because I tried this for about 2 weeks once before and didn't gain anything other than water weight. Since then I've ended up eating only about 2100 calories for probably almost a year now and my suspicion is that I can eat a lot more than 2100 cals of clean food and still maintain. I suspect that my metabolism is actually not running full throttle which as we all know is not good. So for the next 2 months I'm going to eat 400-600 more calories than usual, clean food of course and just see what happens. If I do end up gaining weight then great, cause I really would like to add 2 or 3 more lbs of muscle. By March I plan on cutting whatever fat I may have gained during this next 2 months.

So anyway, I actually officially started this on Friday, January 2nd. And instead of retyping everything in my fitday journal, here is the link to my fitday page so everyone who is interested can see what I've been eating as well as my thoughts (in the journal).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=KryptoAllez

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 12:08 PM

My nutrition plan:

4 meals per day (cause I'm usually only awake for 12 hours), if I get 5 in then great, just some extra calories, no big deal, this is just a ballpark figure for me to shoot for.

Daily:
2516 calories
220g P / 220g C / 83g F

Each meal will consist of 55g P / 55g C / 21g F for 629 cals

Supplements include:

Amino Acid tablets, 1000mg vitamin C and 400 I.U. vitamin E after lifting workouts

Amino Acid tablets, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 1000mg vitamin C, 400 I.U. vitamin E, 90mg potassium tablet, and 400mg Echinacea after speed skating practices

Each morning I take a multi-vitamin and I take 2 calcium/magnesium/zinc tablets (333mg calcium, 133mg magnesium, 5mg zinc) + a potassium tablet with each meal (except the post workout meal).

I also take fish oil tablets just whenever a need a few more grams of fat. They also help with my allergies.

Should've done this in the morning but since I didn't come up with this until later, I ended up getting on the scale and getting my bodyfat checked late at night. By this time I was already holding extra water from the extra carbohydrates. So the readings came to be as follows:

5'5"
143 lbs
18.7% bodyfat
116.2 lbs lean muscle

Last I had checked I actually had 117.6 lbs of lean muscle (hence the 2 lb muscle gain goal to hit an even 120 lbs) so I'm thinking the water weight I'm holding has thrown things off, hopefully, cause there's no reason that I should've lost muscle and gained fat instead (been lifting consistently and eating clean 90% of the time).

So anyway, it's hard to guess, but I'm gonna shoot for 150 lbs by the end of 2 months, it will be the heaviest I've ever been, I've not even ever hit 145 lbs yet. I'm thinking about 150 lbs cause I know that a lot of it will be water weight so it'll drop right back off when I start dieting down. I'm hoping to get to 150 lbs then diet back down to 142 lbs at 15% bodyfat.

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 12:11 PM

My training schedule:

Sunday - back, biceps, calves
Monday - chest, triceps
Tuesday - off
Wednesday - speed skating practice 4:30-7:00 PM
Thursday - shoulders & abs
Friday - off
Saturday - speed skating practice 6:00-8:00 PM

I will post my actual training sessions each day but for my daily nutrition refer to my fitday journal.

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 12:25 PM

Saturday evening, January 3rd

Speed skating practice 6:00-8:00 PM.

Coach ran my butt off right from the beginning. Got very discouraged there for a while during practice cause it's been the same thing for the past at least 3 years, people tell me I have tremendous power but I'm losing it because I'm not stepping the way I should be. Had an older guy tell me he was watching my feet and instead of pushing off to the side, off my heals, with all 5 wheels on the floor I am pushing BACK so I'm not using half the power and strength I have! Grrrrrrr! That, added to the fact that I'm still not getting all the way over on the edges of my wheels around the corners! Grrrrrr! When you don't use your edges, you lose your speed around the corners! So in between our drills during the rest breaks I was out in the middle of the floor practing skating small circles which is supposed to help me with getting over on my edges and stepping properly.

So anyway I was feeling pretty discouraged during this practice but my spirits were raised then when coach had all the girls on the team do a 5 lap race. I was able to beat all the other girls (there were 6 other girls) except one! Woohoo! The only girl I didn't beat was a girl who is considered a Pro-Elite skater. This was a big deal for me because one of the girls is a new girl on the team, I believe she is another Classic Lady skater (Classic is ages 27-34) so she is definitely one of my competition. And also because there is another girl on the team about 18 years old and normally she beats me but I beat her this time! I think the best was when the other Classic lady skater later during a drill where we have to line up from slowest to fastest, she mentioned I should be behind her cause I DUSTED her in the 500m! :D Previous to that it's like she just assumed that I was slower than her cause she kept getting in front of me during the fastest to slower skater drills. Hehe, now she knows better. :D

Evening weight, back down to 140.5 lbs.

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 12:27 PM

Sunday, January 4th

Weight this morning down to 139.5 lbs.

See my fitday link for my meals. Meal 2 was eaten at Red Lobster. We went there for my oldest step son's birthday. I ate A LOT. Had about 4 cheddar biscuits, bowl of New England Clam Chowder soup, and a large plate of Crab Alfredo. :eek:

Workout, after meal 2, BACK, BICEPS, CALVES.

Great news, I was able to increase my weights on almost all my lifts! Gee what 3 days of stuffing myself with food does, hehehe.

BACK

One minute break between sets except between exercises (a little longer). All sets done to failure, failure meaning unable to perform another complete repetition.

T-BAR ROWS on T-bar row equipment

Set 1, wide grip: 13 reps/30 lbs
Set 2, parallel grip: 12 reps/35 lbs
Set 3, wide grip: 10 reps/35 lbs
Set 4, parallel grip: 10 reps/35 lbs

NAUTILUS SEATED COMPOUND ROW

Set 1: 13 reps/110 lbs
Set 2: 13 reps/115 lbs
Set 3: 12 reps/118 lbs
Set 4: 10 reps/125 lbs

WIDE GRIP PULLUPS on gravitron machine

Note: This machine has been pissing me off everytime, it needs fixed (lubricated) it hangs up on me so that it doesn't give me the assistance I need. It sticks halfway up, I can take my knees off the pad and it just stays there! :mad: So I end up having to use more assistance so that it won't stick, GRRRRRR!!!

Set 1: 11 reps/45 lbs assistance
Set 2: 5 reps/45 lbs assistance (stupid thing was really hanging up)
Set 3: 11 reps/60 lbs assistance

PARALLEL GRIP PULLUPS on (stupid) gravitron machine

Set 1: 11 reps/45 lbs assistance
Set 2: 7 reps/45 lbs assistance
Set 3: 11 reps/60 lbs assistance

BICEPS

STANDING BARBELL CURLS

Set 1: 12 reps/50 lbs
Set 2: 8 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 6 reps/50 lbs

INCLINE ALTERNATING DUMBELL CURLS

Set 1: 12 reps/20 lb dumbells
Set 2: 10 reps/20 lbs
Set 3: 8 reps/20 lbs

CALVES

DONKEY CALF RAISES

30-45 seconds rest between sets.

Set 1 (basically a warm-up to prevent cramping): 25 reps/30 lbs
Set 2: 15 reps/90 lbs
Set 3: 15 reps/75 lbs
Set 4: 15 reps/60 lbs
Set 5: 20 reps/45 lbs

TOTAL WORKOUT TIME: 50 minutes

10 minute drive home, then:

10 minutes slideboard work. A slideboard is a home-made piece of equipment that speed skaters use to improve their skating technique as well as helping to develop more power and strength in our pushes. My objective is improving my skating technique to help me learn to push out to the sides rather than back like I'm doing which is causing me to lose all my power.

20 minutes of leg stretching, holding the stretch for 30-60 seconds.

Post workout meal.

Hibiscus09

01-04-2004, 12:33 PM

Good luck with everything, buffed! I just took my measurements & the like and am starting my new challenge tomorrow. It will be nice to stop eating all the holiday junk! :D

When you speed skate are you on inline skates? I've only been on a pair of those once & it wasn't pretty. :) That must be great for your legs!

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 03:16 PM

Thanks. :)

Yep, inline speed skates. http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kryptoallez/my_photos

Hibiscus09

01-04-2004, 04:06 PM

Those are really cool pics!! I suppose that's you? You look like you're serious and ready to take off in that first pic! Cute! That looks like a sport where you could have a serious crash! :) That's how I feel when I'm on my road bike, also. LOL I wish I could inline skate -- I think they give lessons at the skating rink here. I think that would be great leg exercise. I do know how to roller skate at least. :)

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 07:07 PM

Yeah, that's me at the National Championships in 2002 in Lincoln, NE (blue & grey helmet, LC SPEED uniform). I got 5th that year, 5th in my division which is Standard Classic Ladies (women ages 27-34). There is also Junior Olympic and Pro-Elite in similar age groups. I placed 2nd in 2000 my first year of serious competing in the Junior Olympic Classic Ladies. J.O. is for those who have been racing for no more than 3 years (so basically beginners) and who haven't placed yet (top three). Once you place in J.O. or been racing for 3 years, you go to the next level up which is Standard. Last year I couldn't compete because I sprained my left ankle at the last practice before Nationals! Ack!

Yeah, you can crash alright, that's why the helmets are mandatory. Doesn't prevent sprained ankles and other broken bones though!

supadave

01-04-2004, 07:12 PM

cool pics BWC. Good Luck with your plan.

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by supadave
cool pics BWC. Good Luck with your plan.

Thanks, more muscle would be cool. I just always thought it would be great if I could be 120 lbs LEAN because then just the amount of muscle I have on my frame would be equal to my TOTAL bodyweight when I graduated high school.

We'll see. I'm not planning on eating more than 2700 calories of clean food, cause dang, it's a lot harder than you would think! I have enough trouble choking down 4 oz of chicken breast let alone 7 oz! Not only that but it costs more! So if I can't gain more muscle on that then forget it, it just isn't worth it for me. I mean especially seeing as how I'm doing this "just because". I don't even plan on ever competing in bodybuilding. I'm just a speed skater after all, not like I NEED to have more muscle. I just want to see if I CAN gain more muscle. :D It's like curiosity killed the cat, "hmmm, what happens IF..."

Hibiscus09

01-04-2004, 07:51 PM

Well, you look fantastic! And I think it's just great that you're excelling at the sport you love!

BuffedWildCat

01-04-2004, 08:35 PM

Aw, thanks. :)

I'm feeling fat and bloated right now though! And my abs are hiding. Eeeek!

This is why I'm only trying this for 2 months, cause I want to make sure I'm cut again for the summer. And I'm one of those who cuts very slowly so as to lose the MINIMUM amount of muscle. And because I have a major problem with cutting calories because of how it affects my speed skating. Cutting and speed skating do NOT go together, unfortunately.

BuffedWildCat

01-05-2004, 11:23 PM

Monday, January 5th

CHEST & TRICEPS

All sets done to failure with 1 min rest between sets.

DUMBELL FLAT BENCH

Warm-up: 12 reps/15 lbs
Set 1: 12 reps/50 lbs (yes, each hand)
Set 2: 8 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 6 reps/50 lbs

Boy my strength sure doesn't seem to last. Does everyone else experience the same thing, you really rep a bunch out on the first set but then you keep losing a bunch of reps on subsequent sets?

DUMBELL INCLINE BENCH

Set 1: 6 reps/45 lbs
Set 2: 10 reps/40 lbs
Set 3: 8 reps/40 lbs

PEC DECK

Set 1: 12 reps/50 lbs
Set 2: 12 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 10 reps/50 lbs

DIPS

Set 1: 10 reps own bodyweight
Set 2: 7 reps own bodyweight

DIPS off edge of bench with feet up on second bench (never did these before, I'd always have my feet on the ground before)

Set 1: 15 reps own bodyweight - no failure
Set 2: 15 reps + 10 lbs - no failure
Set 3: 15 reps + 25 lbs - still no failure, not gonna try putting a 35 pounder on me without a partner either

STRAIGHT BAR CABLE PRESSDOWNS (cable machine where you have to put weight plates on it)

Set 1: 12 reps/70 lbs - no failure
Set 2: 12 reps/80 lbs
Set 3: 11 reps/80 lbs

Came home, ate post workout meal (meal 4). Fiddled around doing other stuff for a while, like posting here, hehe.

Then, 10 minutes on my slideboard.

20 minutes leg stretching.

Hibiscus09

01-06-2004, 04:34 AM

Whoa, buffed! That's a strong chest workout! The most I've ever been able to press with dumbbells is 40lb dumbbells. You're really strong! :)

I saw in your back workout where you had problems with the graviton machine. Ours is old as dirt at our gym and gets stuck also. I think I'm going to start this week trying to do unassisted pullups before I move to that machine. I was able to do 10 to 12 at one time -- however, I quit doing them when I hurt my rotator cuff, so we'll see what happens.

Great workouts!! :)

BuffedWildCat

01-06-2004, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
Whoa, buffed! That's a strong chest workout! The most I've ever been able to press with dumbbells is 40lb dumbbells. You're really strong! :)

Eh, not strong enough. Seriously, I think I should be stronger than that with almost 4 yrs of training under my belt.

I saw in your back workout where you had problems with the graviton machine. Ours is old as dirt at our gym and gets stuck also. I think I'm going to start this week trying to do unassisted pullups before I move to that machine. I was able to do 10 to 12 at one time -- however, I quit doing them when I hurt my rotator cuff, so we'll see what happens.

Great workouts!! :)

Ah, now see there, you're strong too! Last I tried I could only do 2 wide grip pullups unassisted. Pooie!

On another subject, I'm just amazed at the fact that I am still getting hungry 3 hours after I just got done stuffing myself! And I do mean stuffing myself! I mean I sit there for at least a half hour trying to force the rest of my food down yet 3 hours later I'm hungry again! I suppose that's good, must mean I have a healthy metabolism.

Hibiscus09

01-06-2004, 06:09 AM

I can't do those pullups anymore! LOL I'll be lucky to do one! Anyway, I stay hungry too. The healthier I eat -- the hungrier I am. I miss Christmas, wine, parties, chocolates & stuff. :)

Gator

01-06-2004, 06:56 AM

Good luck BWC
Looks like a great plan and workout

Gator

BuffedWildCat

01-06-2004, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Gator
Good luck BWC
Looks like a great plan and workout

Gator

Thanks Gator. :)

Tuesday, January 6

OFF!

And nobody look in my fitday journal today. Heh. :eek:

I caved on meal 3. I had stuff I shouldn't have had, evil processed stuff. But doggone this is hard, hard to keep eating A LOT of the same 'ole foods OVER & OVER & OVER again! Aaaaahhhhh!! But I know it's gotta be done that way if I want MINIMAL fat gain, which I do! ***. Guilty. :o

Who else out there gets REALLY sick of eating the same foods over and over again?

I get so sick of it so I cave now and then, need to STOP!!! Grrrrrr. :mad:

Hibiscus09

01-06-2004, 08:02 PM

LOL! It does get tiresome. Luckily, it's not bothering me too much yet as I just pigged out from Thanksgiving to New Year's. :D You can do it, Buffed! :) Try to figure out ways to get creative with what you have to work with foodwise -- sometimes that helps when I feel like I can't take it anymore.

egoatdoor

01-06-2004, 08:16 PM

Buffed, first of all, this may be the most interesting Journal we'll see in a long time. An athlete in another sport who also bodybuilds and wants to bulk! This will be much different from the other Journals on this site. I'm sure you'll be successful and thanks for letting us in for the show! :D

DUMBELL FLAT BENCH

Warm-up: 12 reps/15 lbs
Set 1: 12 reps/50 lbs (yes, each hand)
Set 2: 8 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 6 reps/50 lbs

Boy my strength sure doesn't seem to last. Does everyone else experience the same thing, you really rep a bunch out on the first set but then you keep losing a bunch of reps on subsequent sets?

This used to happen to me too when I used to begin my work sets at peak weights. Since I began pyramiding(starting at lower weights and working up to a final ultimate set), its usually not a problem.

And by the way, give yourself some credit. In my last three gyms( two "hardcore" and one "fitness"), no woman ever came remotely close to the dumbbells you are pressing. I'll bet if you came to my gym today and did those weights, jaws would be dropping all over the place! :D

egoatdoor

01-07-2004, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by BuffedWildCat

Tuesday, January 6

OFF!

And nobody look in my fitday journal today. Heh. :eek:

I caved on meal 3. I had stuff I shouldn't have had, evil processed stuff. But doggone this is hard, hard to keep eating A LOT of the same 'ole foods OVER & OVER & OVER again! Aaaaahhhhh!! But I know it's gotta be done that way if I want MINIMAL fat gain, which I do! ***. Guilty. :o

I cheated...I looked...a hot dog! One stinking hot dog! So you caved. Its OK!!! I'll bet it tasted good, too. :D You didn't get struck by lightning for eating it, did you?
You're bulking. Its 20 degrees outside...not bikini weather. And you've got abs and 18% bf. Its OK to cheat occasionally at this time. You've got a fast metabolism and I'm sure your skating today will burn off any "damage" that dogger may have done.

Who else out there gets REALLY sick of eating the same foods over and over again?

I get so sick of it so I cave now and then, need to STOP!!! Grrrrrr. :mad:

Dieting is going to be tough enough when you start cutting. Switch things up sometimes, or even better, give yourself an occasional cheat day or cheat meal during this bulking time so that when you do have to be more strict, it won't be such a drudgery.

Gator

01-07-2004, 05:46 AM

BWC
I cave in all the time..LOLOL
You have to reward yerself or youll go nutz...
Yer on the right track..
Great pics by the way

Gator

BuffedWildCat

01-07-2004, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
LOL! It does get tiresome. Luckily, it's not bothering me too much yet as I just pigged out from Thanksgiving to New Year's. :D You can do it, Buffed! :) Try to figure out ways to get creative with what you have to work with foodwise -- sometimes that helps when I feel like I can't take it anymore.

Thanks Hib! :)

BuffedWildCat

01-07-2004, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by egoatdoor
Buffed, first of all, this may be the most interesting Journal we'll see in a long time. An athlete in another sport who also bodybuilds and wants to bulk! This will be much different from the other Journals on this site. I'm sure you'll be successful and thanks for letting us in for the show! :D

Thanks. :)

This used to happen to me too when I used to begin my work sets at peak weights. Since I began pyramiding(starting at lower weights and working up to a final ultimate set), its usually not a problem.

Yeah, I've thought about doing that but I'm always worried that I'll spend too much energy and then not be able to do as much weight and I'm really dead set on getting stronger.

And by the way, give yourself some credit. In my last three gyms( two "hardcore" and one "fitness"), no woman ever came remotely close to the dumbbells you are pressing. I'll bet if you came to my gym today and did those weights, jaws would be dropping all over the place! :D

Hehe. Kewl.

Dieting is going to be tough enough when you start cutting. Switch things up sometimes, or even better, give yourself an occasional cheat day or cheat meal during this bulking time so that when you do have to be more strict, it won't be such a drudgery.

Heh, good point.

BuffedWildCat

01-07-2004, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Gator
BWC
I cave in all the time..LOLOL
You have to reward yerself or youll go nutz...
Yer on the right track..
Great pics by the way

Gator

Thanks mucho! :)

Okay, I have to complain here. I think I will find myself on this board less and less because there are TOO MANY FREAKING RESTRICTIONS!!!!! :mad:

I go to post a message, quoting everyone who responded to my journal, as I like to acknowledge everyone who stops by, but guess what? I CAN'T because there is a limit on how many smilies and how many UBB codes I can use, OH MY FREAKING GOSH!!! As if it isn't bad enough that when I need to post a long message, I'm restricted by how many characters I can have both on posts I post publically AND in pm's. Wouldn't be so bad if it was just pm's but I can't even type as many characters as I sometimes need on a public post! Ridiculous. And THEN, so I have to break up my post messages but NOOOOO, I can't post for another 65 seconds!!!! Every time I turn around there is some kind of stupid restriction keeping me from enjoying this board!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, just had to rant, it really needed to come out of my system. Oh wait, I have one more complaint. I hate the fact that I cannot use smilies from other web sites. Soo, how many restrictions is that altogether now? Hmmm, let me count.....

I counted FIVE. I don't know but I'm very annoyed at all these restrictions. So now, who is the administrator of this board so I can go complain to him or her? Cause I will, this is annoying the ever living crap out of me. I keep getting more pissed off everytime I find a new restriction.

And if there is a perfectly good explanation, like it costs too much or something, then I'll keep my mouth shut about these restrictions from now on (after all beggers can't be choosers). But I've never ever ran into this sort of thing on any other boards I've been on so it does strike me as rather odd.

BuffedWildCat

01-07-2004, 09:04 PM

Wednesday, January 7

Speed Skating Practice 4:30 - 6:30 PM

I actually got there about 10 min late because I couldn't leave right when I wanted to (had to attend to other business first). So by the time I got there everyone was already skating in a pace line. So I figured instead of jumping in on it, I'd practice my circles since I need them more than I need to skate in a pace line. So I did that the whole time the pack was out skating, a few others dropped out and started doing circles as well. I probably got almost 30 min practicing them since after the pace line was over the coach worked with the little kids for a while.

The rest of practice was quite gruelling. During a relay race I was partnered with another skater and we had to do 8000 meters! So that's 4000 meters a piece which boils down to four 10 lap races for each of us (you only rest while your partner is doing their laps). Whew! THAT was hard! Good news is that the girl who apparently thought she was faster than me (cause I just started skating these particular practices, I used to skate practices at another rink with another coach) found out once again that I can whoop her butt, hehe. Actually, the first time I saw this girl I had thought she looked familiar, matter-of-fact I was pretty sure I had raced her at league meets and I beat her in every race every time so I don't know if she just didn't recognize me or what. She used to skate for another team but I guess she skates for our team now.

So anyway it was a good practice, I didn't get all discouraged this time. I have a tendency to get like that sometimes when I feel like I'm not improving fast enough. I was assured though right before I left that I am improving. The coach's wife (who also sometimes coaches) said that she sees some improvement in me with every practice! Woohoo! :D She says my form is looking better, I'm more relaxed, I'm getting my weight down better, etc. I thanked her and told her I really need that sometimes cause I think I'm not getting better.

One thing I am having a problem with though, seems for the life of me I cannot figure out how to not work my calves so hard so that they're not sore come time for practice! Grrrrr! My calves are still REALLY FREAKING sore from training them on Sunday! And the problem with that is that whenever my calves are sore and I try to skate, it makes my shins lock up something terrible! So I dealt with that the whole practice. It's worse if I do longer laps which luckily we didn't do today and that was another reason I stayed out of the pace line in the beginning cause the pace line goes on FOREVER! Yeah, if I do a lot of laps, like over 20, my shins will get to the point where they are locked as tight as can be and then they burn something fierce! I can't be having that. So I'm not sure what to do, I'm thinking about just not training calves. I can probably afford not to since they are 14.5" and my biceps are just barely over 13" so proportionately they are still bigger. Cause don't they say your calves should be the same size as your biceps to be proportionate? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

So what does everyone think? Should I stop training my calves for the sake of speed skating? I just can't seem to work them at a proper intensity so as to not be sore by speed skating practice.

Hibiscus09

01-07-2004, 09:08 PM

I would think your calves are getting plenty of work from the speed skating. I don't do calves when I'm running or when I'm biking regularly. :)

BuffedWildCat

01-07-2004, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
I would think your calves are getting plenty of work from the speed skating. I don't do calves when I'm running or when I'm biking regularly. :)

I don't know, maybe. I know that you get more calf work when you speed skate on the quad skates but I'm not certain about inline speed skating, just going by what I've heard. I guess I could dig into it further. I'll have to break it down into the exact biomechanics and see.

imperfectly_lou

01-08-2004, 01:11 AM

You are doing fantastic BWC!

Supposedly calves and biceps are meant to be similar in size (mine are exactly the same), but it doesn't sound like you are hugely out of proportion!

Lizzee

01-08-2004, 08:17 PM

Do you find that fitday underestimates your caloric intake?
I ask because I normally go by what the labels on the food say at home, but when I come into work and plug it into fitday it shows that I'm about 200 calories under what I logged at home.

Thanks,
Lizzee

Hibiscus09

01-08-2004, 08:19 PM

I custom input my food into fitday & have a very long list. I have noticed they count carbohydrates many times as 3.5 calories per gram as opposed to 4 calories per gram.

Lizzee

01-08-2004, 08:33 PM

Hmmmm....
I've got a pretty long list too and sometimes I wish I could just copy the day before's stuff (I find myself eating the same stuff over and over again) because I get lazy and what ends up happening is that I post for three days and then two weeks go by without a single post....I stink!!

I'm good about logging at home though, but I don't know what the carb/protein/fat breakdowns are there.

Hibiscus09

01-08-2004, 08:39 PM

Hey Lizzee! :)

I actually started a cutting diet on Monday & have my food & ratios all printed out on sheets that my trainer gave to me. So, I haven't had to bother with fitday & won't for the next 15 weeks. :D However, I will be eating a lot of the same food. :eek:

Emma-Leigh

01-09-2004, 04:19 AM

Hey guys (sorry to hijack your journal Buffedwildcat :) - by the way, I am hugely impressed with your knowledge and your dedication! Keep it up!!)... ummm... yes... for a pretty good site go to www.nutritiondata.com

When you search for foods you eat, click on the 'pantry' tag and you can find ratios/cals etc of all your meals (and recipes etc). You can also click on the 'tools' option and put in foods that might not be on the site, or search for foods with specific ratios etc. it is pretty handy.

Hope it helps!! :D

BuffedWildCat

01-09-2004, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by imperfectly_lou
You are doing fantastic BWC!

Supposedly calves and biceps are meant to be similar in size (mine are exactly the same), but it doesn't sound like you are hugely out of proportion!

Thanks Lou. :)

Originally posted by Emma-Leigh
Hey guys (sorry to hijack your journal Buffedwildcat :) - by the way, I am hugely impressed with your knowledge and your dedication! Keep it up

Not a problem. ;) If people are learning via my journal then most of my objective has been met!

And thanks! :)

BuffedWildCat

01-09-2004, 12:18 PM

Thursday, January 8

SHOULDERS & ABS

Hubby and I worked shoulders together so rest break was however long it took him to do his set.

NAUTILUS MACHINE SIDE LATERALS

Set 1: 12 reps/100 lbs
Set 2: 10 reps/90 lbs
Set 3: 12 reps/80 lbs
Set 4: 10 reps/80 lbs

FACE PULLS (for rear delts)

Set 1: 15 reps/50 lbs (oops, too light)
Set 2: 10 reps/70 lbs
Set 3: 10 reps/60 lbs
Set 4: 12 reps/50 lbs

ABS

4 sets of 25 at 60 lbs on Nautilus crunch machine

I've cut down on the amount of ab work I do (from what I used to) because of speed skating. I guess you could say my New Year's resolution is to stop doing too much! I've had a big problem trying to balance weight lifting with speed skating, most times I do too much weight training and then end up being too fatigued come time for speed skating practice then of course I get all frustrated cause I end up skating crappy. This year I vow to cut down on my weight training so that it no longer negatively affects my speed skating.

Yeah, if I do too much on my abs then it sucks trying to speed skate. Speed skating really taxes your core muscles as well so it makes it difficult for me to skate with sore abs. Just like when I try to skate with sore calves it causes my shins to lock up, when my abs are sore it makes my lower back ache and tighten up more (and quicker) than normal.

Came home and had my post workout meal.

Then,

10 minutes on my slideboard

20 minutes leg stretching

BuffedWildCat

01-09-2004, 12:19 PM

Friday, January 9

OFF

1st report:

Starting weight (evening weight): 143 lbs

Week ONE: Morning weight - 143.5 lbs

From now on I will officially weigh in the mornings. I did not weigh myself last Friday morning cause I hadn't decided to bulk until later that day. Now if I go by the fact that I NORMALLY weigh around 139-140 lbs in the morning, then I gained 3.5 lbs this first week. I would think this is more realistic cause you cannot compare an evening weight with a morning weight.

So then, since I'm thinking that I really did put on 3.5 lbs this first week, I got scared that I'd put on too much fat. So I had hubby caliper me again and my bodyfat percentage has remained unchanged. YAY! And according to the actual numbers I only gained .1 lb of fat but gained .4 lbs of muscle! YIPPY!!! Now that's what I wanna hear! Bring on the MUSCLE baby!!! :D

So now my official MORNING STATS as of today, one week into bulking, are:

HEIGHT: Still 5'5"
WEIGHT: 143.5 lbs
BODYFAT: 18.7%
FAT WEIGHT: 26.9
LBM: 116.6

So for those of you out there following who have experience with bulking and women, are those good numbers? Is a .4 lb gain in muscle and a .1 gain in fat good for a natural female bodybuilder?

Hibiscus09

01-09-2004, 03:08 PM

This year I vow to cut down on my weight training so that it no longer negatively affects my speed skating.

Yeah, if I do too much on my abs then it sucks trying to speed skate. Speed skating really taxes your core muscles as well so it makes it difficult for me to skate with sore abs.

Well, you probably don't need to do too much work on your abs anyway -- I'm sure the speed skating is keeping them in shape.

How do you like your slideboard? Is that the thing where you go from side to side with bootie things on? LOL I bet that is a good workout.

So for those of you out there following who have experience with bulking and women, are those good numbers? Is a .4 lb gain in muscle and a .1 gain in fat good for a natural female bodybuilder?

Sounds very good to me, Buff! :) Keep up the good work!

BuffedWildCat

01-09-2004, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
How do you like your slideboard? Is that the thing where you go from side to side with bootie things on? LOL I bet that is a good workout.

Hehe, yeah, actually I just put big wool socks on over top my regular socks, altho I'm supposed to wear the wool socks overtop my shoes, just don't have a big enough pair of wool socks, lol. It takes the shock off your feet, it starts hurting your feet after a while without shoes on.

Yeah, it's an EXCELLENT workout, I always break a sweat and it's killer on the legs. Reason I'm doing it though is for skill work. I've been told I'm losing a lot of my power in my skating strokes cause I'm stroking BACK instead of to the SIDE. So I'm using the slideboard to help teach me to stroke to the side instead of back, since you CAN'T stroke back on a slideboard otherwise you're not going anywhere. I'm hoping that if I workout on it several times a week that my it will teach my neuromuscular system the CORRECT way to stroke when I speed skate, hoping it translates. Most of the top speed skaters use a slideboard regularly for dry land training so it must work, plus my coaches encourage everyone to use them to help improve their skating technique as well as increasing strength and power in their strokes.

BuffedWildCat

01-11-2004, 01:31 PM

Saturday, January 11

Speed Skating Practice 6:00 - 8:00 PM

Not much to report, just another gruelling practice as usual. My legs are sore from it today. They don't always get sore, sometimes just fatigued but he really ran us hard, more sprinting than we have been doing. And my stinkin' shins gave me problems again, grrrrr! They got so friggin tight I could barely move them, felt like they were going to explode or like balloons ready to pop. I think it would've felt better for them to pop, to let the pressure out that I was feeling in them. That's it, I'm done weight training calves, everytime I do I end up with this problem. I don't recall my shins ever bothering me if I haven't trained calves.

I also made another observation, seems almost everytime I consume fast burning type carbohydrates before a practice I get exercise-induced hypoglycemia. I had pizza and cereal before practice (not much left grocery-wise) and at one point I felt nauseous, weak, and shakey after a 5 lap race. I don't think I get the exercise-induced hypoglycemia if I've eaten slow burning carbohydrates before practice.

Hibiscus09

01-11-2004, 04:08 PM

Well, definitely stick to the oatmeal then pre-practice. :)

I'm sorry about the shin pain -- I've only had it occasionally and it hurts.

BuffedWildCat

01-11-2004, 04:58 PM

Sunday, January 12

BACK & BICEPS

One minute rest between sets taken to failure.

T-BAR ROWS (wide grip alternated with parallel grip)

Set 1: 12 reps/35 lbs (wide)
Set 2: 11 reps/35 lbs (parallel)
Set 3: 11 reps/35 lbs (wide)
Set 4: 10 reps/35 lbs (parallel)

NAUTILUS COMPOUND ROW

Set 1: 13 reps/115 lbs (oops, too light)
Set 2: 12 reps/125 lbs
Set 3: 10 reps/125 lbs
Set 4: 10 reps/125 lbs

Started to do one set of wide grip pullups on the gravitron machine but it started hanging up right away so I figured the heck with it, I'm not putting up with its crap this time! :mad:

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWNS

Set 1: 13 reps/80 lbs (oops, too light)
Set 2: 12 reps/90 lbs
Set 3: 10 reps/100 lbs

CLOSE GRIP CABLE ROWS

Set 1: 12 reps/80 lbs
Set 2: 10 reps/80 lbs
Set 3: 12 reps/70 lbs

STANDING BARBELL CURLS

Set 1: 13 reps/50 lbs (didn't go up cause next one up is 60 lbs)
Set 2: 10 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 9 reps/50 lbs

STANDING HAMMER CURLS

(Wanted to do the same thing as last week, the alternating incline dumbbell curls but two other people were using the only incline bench).

Set 1: 10 reps/25 lb dumbbells
Set 2: 8 reps/25 lbs
Set 3: 7 reps/25 lbs

No slideboard work today, legs are all sore from practice yesterday. As much as I really want to work on my skating technique I know it isn't a good idea and I promised myself no overtraining this year. Hate it when that happens. It's like I really want to get better so bad but at the same time I know it's not a good idea to train legs again when they're sore. Coach just ran us so hard yesterday that now I'm too sore to train on my slideboard. Darn! And they'll probably take until Wednesday's practice to recover! Which means no slideboard work, doggone it.

Now I'm sure my coach would tell me to train on the slideboard anyway but he has a totally different training philosophy than I do, his could be appropriately named, "Pound, Pound, Pound, who cares if you're sore, doesn't matter". It's like he trains everyone like we're super humans. And to think there are practices both Saturday nights and Sunday mornings! I did that once and never again. I asked around and found out I'm not the only one who isn't recovered and feels like crap for Sunday morning practices. Now what I don't understand is why coaches do that. Why do they train their athletes that way? How is one supposed to ever recover? Well, I don't care what he thinks, I don't believe in that, I firmly believe I'm not doing myself any good by practicing when I'm all sore and haven't had a chance to recover, I do not believe it's gonna make me any better or a faster skater that way.

Comments, thoughts, opinions?

egoatdoor

01-11-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by BuffedWildCat
Now what I don't understand is why coaches do that. Why do they train their athletes that way? How is one supposed to ever recover? Well, I don't care what he thinks, I don't believe in that, I firmly believe I'm not doing myself any good by practicing when I'm all sore and haven't had a chance to recover, I do not believe it's gonna make me any better or a faster skater that way.

Comments, thoughts, opinions?

I agree 100% Buffed. I do not understand this whole "more is better" mentality in sports, especially Olympic type events. Gymnasts training twice a day seven times a week year round. Swimmers the same. I have a friend whose neighbor's daughter is a high school swimmer. Not even top tier and their coaches have them in the water before breakfast and after school all week and then each day on weekends. When are they supposed to study and when is the point of diminishing returns reached?

I think bodybuilding was in the same school years ago, but many have realized that you do not have to spend every day being in the gym for hours. As you said, your coaches are from the old school. Maybe a newer generation of coaches will see the light.

If you ask me, who will win a race between two equal ( genetics, technique, etc) skaters? The one who is fresh or the one who is tired and overtrained from "practice"?

BuffedWildCat

01-12-2004, 09:14 PM

Monday, January 12

Got to work out with the next door neighbor, a 16 yr old male, that was a trip! LOL! He is job shadowing me for the next few days as part of his school project for 11th and 12th graders so he came in with me to watch me train clients. We worked out together between clients. It was funny because he was desperately trying to match me on all lifts but he just wasn't quite getting there, lol.

Yeah, he picked me to job shadow, imagine that. Pretty cool. I knew he was really into it cause he always asks me questions when he comes over to visit with my step sons, both training and nutrition questions. And he was recently asking me what my max lifts are. Well so now he got to see first hand what weight dumbbells I press. It's cool because I know I'm motivating him to want to train and eat right so he can get stronger and bigger. I must say I'm very flattered about that and actually the whole deal with his picking me to job shadow. :)

CHEST & TRICEPS

DUMBBELL FLAT BENCH

Warm-up: 12 reps/15 lbs
Set 1: 12 reps/50 lbs
Set 2: 10 reps/50 lbs
Set 3: 8 reps/50 lbs
Set 4: 8 reps/50 lbs

DUMBBELL INCLINE BENCH

Set 1: 10 reps/45 lbs
Set 2: 8 reps/45 lbs
Set 3: 10 reps/40 lbs

PEC DECK

3 sets, 12 reps, at 50 lbs

DIPS (with my own bodyweight)

Set 1: 10 reps
Set 2: 7 reps

CLOSE GRIP BENCH PRESS on smith machine

Set 1: 8 reps/40 lbs (just the weights)
Set 2: 10 reps/30 lbs

STRAIGHT BAR PRESSDOWNS on cable machine

2 sets, 12 reps, at 75 lbs

Boy, there sure is a big difference between the base gym's cable machine and the studio gym's cable machine where I work at. I do anywhere from 90-110 lbs on the base gym cable machine for tricep pressdowns but at the studio gym the most I've done is 85 lbs.

And oh my gosh, I have to tell everyone this one, how many MALE TEENAGERS do you personally know that actually PREFER a girl with muscles?! Yeah, we were talking and he mentioned that he doesn't like the skinny model type girls, he likes the ones with some muscle on them. He doesn't like the thin, petite type! I told him he's a RARE breed especially at his age! Then he says he doesn't know why girls don't want to work out. We both agreed that muscle looks GOOD!