Thumbs down for Dr. Phil

[hotgymchick]

Dr. Phil has a new "Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge for Teens". I think it is incredibly awful. I hate the way eating disorders are portrayed. Dr. Phil is a chunky monkey himself. :mad:

[Batz w/ Napalm]

He has know progress to weight loss for teens? What exactly is he trying to do or what is he saying.

I watched the special he had on NBC about when he started. It seemed good and at least a start to try to motivate the country or at least a larger audience than would normally do so.

He is a heavy weight for sure. I think he mention he doesn't run anymore do to bad knees and back.

[Patfan]

I find it hilarious that he can preach about weight loss looking like that. He's just after more money, trying to sell his "ideas" off as the end to obesity. If I was overweight I'd see this as the blind leading the blind :).

[Emma-Leigh]

Originally posted by hotgymchick
Dr. Phil has a new "Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge for Teens". I think it is incredibly awful. I hate the way eating disorders are portrayed. Dr. Phil is a chunky monkey himself. :mad:

I have not seen it?? What is it like?

[hotgymchick]

Originally posted by Emma-Leigh
I have not seen it?? What is it like?

He had a bunch of teens on the show who were all quite overweight. Basically, he's quite crude and rude, and hawks his book like a madman. He just upsets me that he generalizes eating disorders and said that "most teens are overweight and dont eat right" when I know easily 5 people including myself who are highly fit and eat right. It just struck a wrong chord.

[MsFit]

Geez, what's he going to promote next, hair care?

Have you seen his menu plans in his book?

Breakfast:
Banana, oat bran, lowfat milk, coffee/tea

Can any one say 'sky high insulin'? Where's the complete protein Phil? Milk just doesn't cut it.

[Aurora]

The worst part is that he is in a position of trust and people are going to listen to him. When thier attempts fail they will end up feeling worse about themselves or blame genetics. Someone should sue his fat ass.

[egoatdoor]

The guy is a snake, but I don't see much difference between his "meal plans" and the drivel in the "fitness" magazines such as Oxygen, M&F Hers and the like. All of them are irresponsible.

[hotgymchick]

BB.com Female Section should go on his show and throw various low GI products at him! :D :p

[playmaker]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Kristen
What about some low GI tomatoes?

[wonderif1000]

Originally posted by MsFit
Geez, what's he going to promote next, hair care?



That's funny :D

His son (Dr. Phil's) has written a teen weight loss book. He uses "Dad's" show as a plateform. I too get so tired of hearing all Dr Phil's BS. He is such a hypocrite. Why doesn't he take his shirt off and show his weight loss followers what he looks like :o ;)
Anybody think he has a six pack under their hahahaha :D

[BODYIMAGE]

i only read the first and last threaD.............i agree about taking off his shirt and show us his six pack..........can you say FRAUD,JOKE,THEIF,LIAR<DECIEVER.........didnt oprah and geraldo ,maury,jenny jones,riki lake,mortan downey jr.sally jesse,yawn yawn,yawn,try this? its all about ratings....thank goD i dont watch that garbage........................................... ....................






THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE FROM STUPIDITY..................

[BODYIMAGE]

WOULD IT BE CRUELTO SUGGEST DOCTOR PHIL (WHAT KINDA OF DOC IS HE ANWAY??)GO TO PRISON FOR PUBLIC FRAUD AND DECEPTION.......AND BE GANGED RAPED BUY THE BAD GUYS

[FitMandy]

Dr. Phil doesn't look like a personal trainer and doesn't calim that he is one. A lot of obese people try to lose weight many many times, only to fail because mentally, they are not ready. Dr.Phil helps people get in the right mindset to lose weight and gives them some guidelines. No Dr. Phil isn't in great shape, but he doesn't weigh 300 pounds either. I think that what he is doing is a good thing, because many people follow his ideas, and if he is helping many obese in our country tackle their problems, he's helping to end the epidemic.

[Hibiscus09]

I like Dr. Phil. LOL :) I'm with FitMandy on this one -- what he suggests in his book mealwise is probably super duper healthy compared to what some obese people are currently eating. It's heading in the right direction for them. I do think he seems to have a good heart and is trying to help others. He's a big man -- a tall, large framed man, that probably could afford to lose a little weight. However, his self esteem seems to be in order & a lot of times people with obesity issues have low self esteem and I think he is working at the problem from that angle mostly. Furthermore, you don't have to have a 6 pack and be exceedingly muscular and buff to be healthy. Not everyone shares this obsession we have. :)

Here's some biographical information on him:

Dr. Phil and his three sisters grew up in Oklahoma and Texas, where their father worked as a salesman for an oil-equipment company and their mother was a homemaker. Dr. Phil was awarded a football scholarship to the University of Tulsa, and then finished his degree at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas. Later, he earned his doctorate in psychology at the University of North Texas. In 1979, Dr. Phil opened a practice with his father, who got his psychology degree at the age of 40.

After years of practicing, Dr. Phil realized that traditional therapy was not his calling. "From the very beginning, it wasn't for me. I didn't have the patience for it," he says.

In 1989, he co-founded Courtroom Sciences, Inc., a company that assists the legal profession by conducting mock trials, behavioral analysis, jury selection and mediation. It was through CSI that Dr. Phil met Oprah Winfrey. In 1996, she was being sued by cattlemen who claimed she defamed the beef industry on one of her shows, and Oprah hired CSI to help with her case. Dr. Phil did just that in 1998, and soon after he became an expert on her show, dealing with life strategies and relationships.

In concert with his books and television work, Dr. Phil conducts motivational seminars across America. He also provides strategic guidance for millions of Americans through his monthly column in O, The Oprah Magazine.

Dr. Phil, an avid golfer, tennis player and scuba diver, has been married to his wife Robin for 27 years. They have two sons, 24-year-old Jay and 16-year-old Jordan.

He sounds like he's doing pretty well to me. He has a stable family life, well educated, well-rounded and has his own television show and is selling books like crazy. I can't knock the man for being successful and I think he does help a lot of people.

[@lphamale]

Sorry...... I think people need to learn more i can and i will, rather then im too fat to run or im too poor to eat right. Knowing your inner power to change anything is what people forget.

[AKR]

you've gotta give the man some credit; he's got probably the best weight loss advice on tv. he preaches a life long change, not just "do this for 60 days, don't bother exercising, and then, go back to your crappy habits." he says people must eat better food, lift weights, AND run-and continue doing them throughout life. you can't tell me that's bad advice. sure, maybe he makes some mistakes here and there, but i can guarrantee (sp) you people will lose more weight and be healthier with his philosophy than with probably any other philosophy on tv.

whether he's a little chubby or not, you can't knock someone's philosophy just because they don't apply it to themselves. there are TONS of coaches who can tell others how to achieve their goals, but can't do it themselves. and as someone said, he has a bad back and knees.

[Calco76]

Originally posted by egoatdoor
The guy is a snake, but I don't see much difference between his "meal plans" and the drivel in the "fitness" magazines such as Oxygen, M&F Hers and the like. All of them are irresponsible.



I'm a magazine addict and while I agree with you on irresponsible meal plans in M&F Hers and others, I have to disagree and take up for Oxygen. I've only just started to read it having picked up the last two month's issues, but the diets inside seem okay to me. They focus on egg whites, oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potatoes, protein powders, lean meats, etc. and eating 5-8 x a day, just like I read on this forum. I do have to add that I don't care much for the "lifting plans" that they seem to adhere more to maintenance it seems than growth workouts. I know Jen Hendershott didn't get that way from stretch bands and pushups....LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Anyway...I don't mean to take away from the Dr. Phil topic, I just wanted to say that Oxygen lists some pretty great meal plans from what I've seen. Now other magazings..um...no..I do agree there.

[egoatdoor]

Originally posted by Calco76
I'm a magazine addict and while I agree with you on irresponsible meal plans in M&F Hers and others, I have to disagree and take up for Oxygen. I've only just started to read it having picked up the last two month's issues, but the diets inside seem okay to me. They focus on egg whites, oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potatoes, protein powders, lean meats, etc. and eating 5-8 x a day, just like I read on this forum. I do have to add that I don't care much for the "lifting plans" that they seem to adhere more to maintenance it seems than growth workouts. I know Jen Hendershott didn't get that way from stretch bands and pushups....LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Anyway...I don't mean to take away from the Dr. Phil topic, I just wanted to say that Oxygen lists some pretty great meal plans from what I've seen. Now other magazings..um...no..I do agree there.

My problem with Oxygen is that like the others, they show so called diet plans of the pro fitness stars and others which are bogus. What they are are contest preparation diets that are starvation level in terms of calories, but the magazine does not say this and women who do not know better think they need to eat like this for 365 days a year to lose weight or achieve the bodies of these stars. This leads to dangerous consequences, including a rampant fear of carbohydrates, vicious cycles resulting from continuing to reduce calories further and further when the body retains fat in the face of a starvation diet, and unwarranted feelings of guilt if people "cheat" from the same strict day after day "diet".

The last issue I have is October. In there is a Canadian fitness lady whose daily "diet" is basically egg whites, protein shakes and veggies. When I add it up, I'm struggling to get 1400 calories, with the carb count well under 100 for a woman of 138 pounds. And this for a person training six days a week!

Later on, Kelly Ryan's "year round" diet alleges she eats 150 grams of carbs year round with almost no fat, no bread, no fruit, no dairy. Can any reasonable person expect to do this 365/24???

Finally, there is Timea Majorova's alleged 1200-1500 calorie diet which consists entirely of a fruit bowl, a protein bar, chicken breast, a salad, small piece of fruit and a small piece of fish. This doesn't add up to even 700 calories!!!!

Those who know better see all of this as bogus, but many people are not so discerning and the consequences (some major eating disorders) can be seen in some of the threads in the women's bodybuilding section.

[Emma-Leigh]

Originally posted by egoatdoor
My problem with Oxygen is that like the others, they show so called diet plans of the pro fitness stars and others which are bogus. What they are are contest preparation diets that are starvation level in terms of calories, but the magazine does not say this and women who do not know better think they need to eat like this for 365 days a year to lose weight or achieve the bodies of these stars. This leads to dangerous consequences, including a rampant fear of carbohydrates, vicious cycles resulting from continuing to reduce calories further and further when the body retains fat in the face of a starvation diet, and unwarranted feelings of guilt if people "cheat" from the same strict day after day "diet".

The last issue I have is October. In there is a Canadian fitness lady whose daily "diet" is basically egg whites, protein shakes and veggies. When I add it up, I'm struggling to get 1400 calories, with the carb count well under 100 for a woman of 138 pounds. And this for a person training six days a week!

Later on, Kelly Ryan's "year round" diet alleges she eats 150 grams of carbs year round with almost no fat, no bread, no fruit, no dairy. Can any reasonable person expect to do this 365/24???

Finally, there is Timea Majorova's alleged 1200-1500 calorie diet which consists entirely of a fruit bowl, a protein bar, chicken breast, a salad, small piece of fruit and a small piece of fish. This doesn't add up to even 700 calories!!!!

Those who know better see all of this as bogus, but many people are not so discerning and the consequences (some major eating disorders) can be seen in some of the threads in the women's bodybuilding section.

I completely agree with this.

You have to live - the diets that these magazines have people "live" on are pre-contest type diets and are not healthy for the long term.

Enjoy life - you will not get another chance... Mix things up a little, eat a wide variety of foods, have a yummy cheat meal every now and then! Sure - they advocate good foods but the type of calorie restrictions, shear repeatativeness and extreme strictness of eating that is sometimes quoted as 'year round' diets is detrimental and is setting the seeds of disordered eating...

[Hibiscus09]

The women on that level are not getting to where they are by food alone. You can tell by looking at them -- plain and simple. They leave out their "supplementation" plans when posting those silly diets.

[Aurora]

Also, lots of times the magazines write "interviews" with competitors who dont actually participate in the interview. Its all BS made up stuff.

[Thunder_Bunny]

I wouldn't mind so much if Dr.Phil was using pyschological approach to weightloss. Many people are overweight due to emotional problems. So that I can understand.

What I don't like is his various meal replacement products. I doubt that he understands what these products contain or the relationship between food and our bodies.

[nubreed]

i think your better off exercising durng that hour that dr. phil comes on instead of listening to that dolt.

[jle]

I like Dr. Phil too , and I think this 7 Keys is not for becoming super fit or finely tuned athlete its about turning one's life around who had struggled in the past into an all-around healthy lifestyle, not about getting down to low teens or single digits bodyfat.

But anyway, I do my Cardio while I watch Dr. Phil. :)

[Hibiscus09]

LOL -- I'm usually doing mine during Oprah, which comes on right after Dr. Phil here. :)