Lee Preist Jr. Log Sponsored By Cel

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What's In It?

Serving Size: 5 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

CE4 Power Complex: 2,450mg
Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl, Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate, Glycocymine, Di-Creatine Orotate

CytoCEL Performance Formula: 1,075mg
Glycerol Monostearate, R-Alpha Lipoic Acid, Betaine Anhydrous HCl, Beta Alanine

Other Ingredients:
Rice Flour, Magnesium Stearate and Gelatin.

Directions: Take five (5) capsules per day.
On Training Days: Take two (2) capsules with 8 to 12 fluid ounces of cold water 30-40 minutes prior to training (preferably on an empty stomach). Take an additional three (3) capsules with 8 to 12 fluid ounces of cold water immediately after training.
On Non-Training Days: Take five (5) capsules with 8 to 12 fluid ounces of cold water between breakfast and lunch.

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Time Release Nitric Oxide Cycle Optimizer For Increases Lean Mass!

Edge-NO maximizes Nitric Oxide produced for intense muscle pumps and vascularity. The NO-VASO Blend magnifies Arginines vasodilating effects with L-Norvaline to inhibit Arginase, and Oligomeric Proanthocyanidins from Grape Seed Extract to stimulate the Nitric Oxide Synthase enzyme. Combining these ingredients with Arginine AKG increases total Nitric Oxide produced for insane muscle expanding effects. Edge-NO also contains Beta vulgaris (Beet Root), the only natural blood builder, and the CE4 Power Complex, CEL?s proprietary blend of creatine esters. This powerful and effective blend delivers results you won?t find in any other Nitric Oxide supplement.

What's In It?

Serving Size: 4 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 45

Amount Per Serving:

L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate: 3,000mg

VASO-Expanding Time Release Technology?: 1,606mg
CE4 Power Complex?
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate, Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl, Glycocyamine, Di-Creatine Orotate

NO-Vaso Blend?
L-Norvaline, L-Citrulline AKG, Beet (Beta vulgaris)(root), Grape Seed Extract (95% OPC), NADH, Folic Acid

Other Ingredients:
Magnesium Stearate, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Silicon Dioxide, Stearic Acid, Dicalcium Phosphate, HPMC, Black Lake, Blue #2 and Chlorophyll.

Directions: Take 4 tablets twice daily. Take 4 tablets 30 minutes prior to breakfast and take 4 tablets again 30 minutes prior to lunch. On training days consume one of the daily servings 30 minutes prior to working out. If you weigh over 225 pounds, increase serving dosage to 5 tablets.

NOTE: Always take EDGE-NO on an empty stomach approximately 30 minutes prior to eating or at least 2 hours after eating. Do not consume with ephedra based products or large amounts of glutamine (more than 10g), as this will diminish EDGE-NO results. For maximum results consume 128oz of water daily. After 12 weeks of consecutive use, discontinue for at least 4 weeks.
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Welcome to my sponsored CEL log...I will be testing out two products from CEL: n-CREAce and Edge-NO. First off, I want to thank CEL for picking me to test out this stack and sending off the goods promptly. Second I again want to thank them for the cool shaker bottle and samples (although the lemonade refuel sample spilled out into the shaker so I couldn't really sample it :( I think you guys did a great job designing your packaging...very good looking containers.

Now a little about myself:

Age: 19

Height: 5'8-5'9

Weight: 162-167 (fluctuates greatly)

Bodytype: Meso/endo

Training sched: I do a three day split four times a week. Back/bi, chest/tri, legs/shoulders and I also try to do some light (20 min) cardo 2x per week. I also ride my bike to school which is entirely up hill and about half a mile there. So I am riding about 2-3 miles per day on my bike.

Water: ~1.5 gallon/day

Diet: 2800-3200 cals. 250 protein, 280 carbs, 100 fat
My diet mainly consists of top sirloin, 93% lean ground beef, top round steaks, chicken, tuna, shrimp, pork chops, WW bread, WW bagels, WW pasta, natural PB, sunchips(yes I eat them, and they are delicious), WW hamburger buns, oats, skim milk...you get the idea, pretty clean.

Current supplements: n-CREase, Edge NO, leucine, Beta alanine, cyto. complete whey, AI whey isolate, DS sustain, vit. C, Mult., (WMS, Dex., gatorade all post workout).

Current phase: bulking

Short term goal: I am trying to get up at or above 170lbs

Long term goal: Maintain at 180+ with single digit BF.

I am currently stacking AP+powerFULL but I will be done on Tuesday, so that means this log offically starts WEDNESDAY. Thanks again to CEL and I hope all goes well.

[extremenergy3]

haha the title definitely caught my eye.

[bbgolfer]

haha the title definitely caught my eye.

;)

[bigbridrol]

haha the title definitely caught my eye.

hah agreed. Nice start and good luck gaining some mass!

[CuttingEdgeLabs]

hi JR :D

[bbgolfer]

hah agreed. Nice start and good luck gaining some mass!

Thanks! I think my dosing will look like this:

Workout days:
6 caps Edge-NO/3 caps n-CREAse: preworkout
2 caps n-CREAse: postworkout

Off days:
5 caps n-CREAse: 20 min before breakfast
3 caps Edge-NO: 45 min before lunch
3 caps Edge-NO: right before bed

[bbgolfer]

INITIAL THOUGHTS


The Edge-NO pills are huge! Not hard to swallow for me, but perhaps they would be for others. They have to be almost twice the size of your standard multi. But like I said before, great job CEL on the packaging, I really really like it. These pictures really do them no justice.


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Pre workout: 5 caps Edge/3 caps n-crease, 2g beta alanine

Starting weight: 166lbs

The workout: Chest/tris

Chest:
Pec flys: 90x12 105x10 135x6 135x6 105x8

Machine chest press(I dont really know the actual weight on this machine. There is a stack of 20 weights, so I doubt each one is only 10lbs, because Ive never seen anyone do the whole rack, which would only be 200lbs): 80x10 100x8 120x6 120x6

Iso-lateral chest press: 147x8 187x6 207x6 147x8

Tris:
Tricep pushdown: 50x15 60x10 70x8 60x8 50x10
Tricep extention: 40x10 50x8 50x8 40x10

Post workout:

Shake 1: 5g lecuine, 40g dex/gatorate, 25g WMS, 2 caps n-crease
Shake 2: 2 scoop whey iso w/ water


Overall thoughts: First workout was good, not much to say about the stack obviously. Strength and intensity were good even though I didn't take any caffeine this morning like I usually do before my workout. I felt a pretty good pump, but lower than average vascularity. Again, probably none of this is do to the stack. Next workout: Friday- Legs/shoulders

[benjamin0]

INITIAL THOUGHTS

The Edge-NO pills are huge! Not hard to swallow for me, but perhaps they would be for others. They have to be almost twice the size of your standard multi. But like I said before, great job CEL on the packaging, I really really like it. These pictures really do them no justice.



Straight up! Those pills are freakin massive!

[bbgolfer]

Here is what I ate yesterday just so you guys can get some idea of my diet:

Meal 1:
Oatmeal: 2/3 cup oats, 2/3 cup skim milk, table spoon natural PB, splenda
Protein shake: 2 scoops cytosport whey, 10oz skim milk
1 multi
1 vitamin C

Postworkout (meal 2):
Was stated above in my previous post

Meal 3:
Burger: 6oz 93% lean ground beef, whole wheat bun, ketchup, mustard
Sun chips: handful of sunchips
1 large orange
Diet soda

Meal 4:
scrambled eggs: 2 large whole eggs, ~3-4 egg whites
Toast: 2 pieces whole wheat toast

Meal 5:
Turkey: 7-8oz REAL roast turkey, not lunch meat
Potato: 1 large red potato cooked in olive oil

Meal 6:
Protein shake: 1 scoop Sustain, 10oz skim milk


So there is an idea of my diet, I try to vary it quite a bit, but I always use lean meats and 100% whole grains. I know there isnt many veggies in there, I ran out and havent been to the store. :(

[bigbridrol]

Straight up! Those pills are freakin massive!

hah i am usually good with pills, so I swallowed all four at once, and I coughed up two and had to re-swallow them

[benjamin0]

hah i am usually good with pills, so I swallowed all four at once, and I coughed up two and had to re-swallow them

Man, that is just plain NASTY! Coughing up big black pills would not be cool!

[bbgolfer]

hah i am usually good with pills, so I swallowed all four at once, and I coughed up two and had to re-swallow them

I am usually really good with pills too, I can usually swallow 2-3 Vitamin C at once, but I won't even dare to choke down these monsters. :D

[bbgolfer]

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Today was an off day...I took 3 caps of Edge NO and 5 caps n-CREAse 2 hours after breakfast and 1 before lunch. I will take 3 more caps of Edge NO before bed. I may even start to take all 6 caps before bed on off days. People claim it helps sleep and raise GH levels. Any CEL reps see a problem with this?

[CuttingEdgeLabs]

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Today was an off day...I took 3 caps of Edge NO and 5 caps n-CREAse 2 hours after breakfast and 1 before lunch. I will take 3 more caps of Edge NO before bed. I may even start to take all 6 caps before bed on off days. People claim it helps sleep and raise GH levels. Any CEL reps see a problem with this?

sure, on off days you can take the full dose before bed.

thanks for the packaging comment, our stuff looks pretty cool according to most people who see it

[bbgolfer]

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PREWORKOUT:
6caps edge no/3 caps n-crease/2g beta alanine/1 multi/1 vit. C

WORKOUT:

LEGS:

Hack squat: 110x15 200x10 290x8 380x6 200x8

V-Squat: 234x10 324x10 414x6 324x8

Eagle calf raises: 155x15 175x15 160x20 160x20


SHOULERS(the gym was PACKED so I couldn't get to any free weights):

Eagle overhead press: 90x8 90x6 100x6 110x6 70x8

Upright cable rows: 110x10 125x8 140x6 140x6 125x8 125x8

"Neutral grip" shoulder press: 60x10 80x8 70x8

POSTWORKOUT:
Shake 1: 5g leucine, 35g dex, 25g WMS, 2 n-crease, 3g beta alanine
Shake 2: 2 scoops whey iso.

Weight: 165


Thoughts: I really would have liked to do some free weight shoulder work, but oh well. Today in the gym I felt pretty damn good, a nice sense of well-being. I am experiencing some ok pumps, below normal vascularity, but some really good endurance and strength. I am looking forward to the upcoming days with this stack. It should be fun!

[bbgolfer]

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Preworkout was the same as usual, as well as post workout.

WEIGHT: 165. Like I might have said before, my weight really fluctuates anywhere from 163ish-167ish. But I really would like to get to 170 after the end of this stack. 170 is my goal so I can start cutting for the summer. :D

WORKOUT:
BACK:
Wide grip lat pulldown: 120x10 160x8 140x8 140x8 120x8

Dual arm narrow pulldown(alternating arms): 70x8 100x8 80x8 70x8

Eagle Rows: 110x10 150x8 170(PR)x6 130x8

BIs:
Preacher curl: 50x10 70x6 80x6 50x8

DB curl (dropset) 35x6 30x6 25x6

Low cable curls: 80x10 100x8 120x6 80x8


THOUGHTS: PHEW...hell of a workout..I really felt good in the gym. As I read over the ingredients I really don't know which one(s) are responsible for the nice boost of energy and sense of well-being...or it could just be placebo. But I am really starting to like this combo. I got a really nice pump today especially in my bis, but even in my lats too which I don't normally feel all that much. I just felt bigger walking out of the gym today for whatever reason. Three really good workouts so far this week. Its looking good so far.

[bbgolfer]

Just for fun/general info. purposes I decided to take out 6 random tabs of Edge-NO and 5 caps of n-crease (my normal daily dose) and measure each pill on my digital pocket scale. I had no idea what they are supposed to be, but after this I got a pretty good idea.

Edge-NO: 1.9g, 1.8g, 1.9g, 2.0g, 1.8g, 1.7g

Average= 1.85g

Just FYI, there should be 1.15g of active in each tab. Im not sure how much extraneous "stuff" is in each cap, but it looks like there should be plenty of actives in each tab. Good stuff.

N-CREAse: 0.9g, 1.1g, 1.0g, 1.1g, 1.1g

Average=1.04g

There should be .705g of active in each cap, so again this measurement looks good.

[bbgolfer]

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Pre and post workout was the same.

WEIGHT: 165


CHEST:

Chest press: 60x15 90x10 110x8 130x6 150x2(PR) Again, I am almost positive this is not in pounds...there are 20 weights numbered 1-20, so I did a stack of 6, 9,11,13 and 15..I really don't know how much each one weighs...proably 15-20lbs

ISO-lateral chest press: 147x8 187x6 237x3(PR) 147x8 97x10

Decline DB press: 40x10 50x10 55x8

Chest flys: 90x10 120x6 110x6 90x10

TRIs:

V-bar pushdowns: 50x15 70x8 85x6 60x8 50x10

DB kickbacks: 30x8x4

CARDIO: 10 min on the bike


THOUGHTS:Really good workout, I really tore my chest up and pushed almost every excercise to failure. My triceps were pretty exhausted just from the chest workout, so by the time I got to the actual tricep workouts, they were burning pretty bad. I got a really painful pump in my tris, I like :D I feel like my strength is increasing. Im not sure if this is due to the new stack, or the fact that I had been at a semi-plateau for a while and I am just gettting over it. Either way I am happy. I thought I would do some really light cardio just because I felt lazy. The truth is I am getting a lot of cardio from riding my bike to and from school each day. I only rode the bike for 10 min because I had already been in the gym for about an hour and a half and I didn't want to stay too long. This week coming up is finals week so my workout schedule is going to get a little screwy.

[bbgolfer]

I feel like no one is interested in this log..someone prove me wrong :D
Thought I would just update you guys with my diet for the day...

Breakfast: 2/3 cup oats, 18oz skim milk, tbsp nat. pb, 2 scoops whey

Postworkout: 70g carbs, 2 scoops whey

Lunch: 2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 1 WW bagel

"Snack:" 10oz shrimp, 4oz WW pasta

Dinner: 10oz eye of round steak, 3 handfuls sun chips

[bbgolfer]

Day 6 (yesterday) - Yesterday was an off day, but I felt lazy so I went on a little run for about 20 minutes and probably ran around 2 miles(pretty hilly). I dosed all 5 n-CREAse in the morning on an empty stomach. And I dosed all 6 Edge-No on on empty stomach right before bed.


Day 7- I was planning on workout out today... because of finals my workout schedule is a little screwed up. But last night I started feeling like I was getting sick...so I loaded up on Vit. C and took some Zicam..but I still woke up this morning not feeling 100% I was also planning on workout out tomorrow, which is normal, but the way I am feeling it doesn't look like I am going to. I don't think this is horrible, as I was feeling really sore and needed a break.


Things to note: I am feeling some increased and longer lasting DOMS. My DOMS usually go away within one day these are lasting 2-3 days. My vascularity is improving from the first couple days. Hopefully my next workout will be friday.

[bbgolfer]

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Day 8: Off day/still sick

Today (day 9)

WEIGHT: 164

LEGS:

Hack squat: 105x12 195x10 285x8 375x6

V-squat: 234x12 324x10 324x10 414x10

Sitting calf raises: 45x20x2 90x10x2

Eagle cybex calf press: 150x25 150x20 160x15 170x10


SHOULDERS:

Underhand DB raises: 25x10 30x10 30x8 25x10

Eagle shoulder press: 70x10 90x10 100x8 70x8

Upright low cable rows: 80x15 120x12 140x8 150x8


Thoughts: I am still not 100% and my workout suffered. I lost a little strength and didn't want to push it too hard. My diet has been "good" I just lost my appetite for the past few days so my weight is down. I feel like this stack is helping my strength a little, but I am not feeling the pump or vascularity like others are. I think I am going to bump my Edge-NO dose to 8 caps pre workout and 8 caps pre bed on off days. Hopefully that will increase my vascularity and pump a little. I should be feeling 100% by tomorrow. I am going home for spring break tomorrow so I will be using a different gym and my workouts will change a little bit, but it shouldn't be too bad. I am hoping to get a workout in for the next three days to make up for being sick this week, but who knows.

[bbgolfer]

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Preworkout: I decided to change up my preworkout dosing to see if I can see any benifit/difference so it went like this:

8 tabs Edge-NO/5 caps n-CREAse/1.6g beta alanine


BACK:

Wide grip lat pulldown: 135x10 147.5x10 160x6 147.5x6

One-arm DB rows(each arm): 30x10 40x10 50x6 50x6

Seated rows: 87.5x12 125x10 150x8 137.5x8


BIS:

Preacher curls: 60x10 72.5x8 72.5x6 60x6 40x8

DB curls(dropset) 35x5 30x5 25x5 20x5

Postworkout: Because I changed my preworkout n-CREAse dosage to all 5 caps pre, I won't be taking any post for a little bit. But other than that...

35g dex/20g WMS/5g leucine/3g beta alanine/40g whey

WEIGHT: 163... :(


THOUGHTS: I think the 8 tabs of Edge-NO did the trick today...I finally felt a really good pump and some decent vascularity. Strength was ok considering I just am getting over being sick. I should be 100% by tomorrow. My weight is down, and I really need to bring that up quite a bit, but for some reason I feel like I am putting on some adipose...so I might just have to eat really clean for a while and increase the cardio slightly. I burned through my workout today in about 40 minutes, so that was some good cardio. Overall I feel good and am liking this stack.

[bigbridrol]

I hate getting sick! nice job working through it though

[bbgolfer]

Well my girlfriend came over this morning so I got a little preworkout "cardio" ;)

Preworkout: 1.6g Beta Alanine, 8 Edge-NO, 3 N-CREAse


CHEST:

DB press: 55x10 75x6 70x6 65x6 (Haven't done these in about a month)

Incline DB press: 45x10 55x8 50x6 45x8

Low cable cross overs: 45x12 55x10 75x6 65x8 55x8


TRIS:

Tricep press: 55x12 65x10 80x8 85x6 65x8

DB kickbacks: 25x10 30x8 30x6 25x8


CARDIO:

10 min high intensity on the eliptical trainer. I burned about 120 cals according to the machine.

PWO:

35g dex, 5g leucine, 3g beta alanine, 40g whey, 2 caps N-CREAse


THOUGHTS: I think I am experiencing some diminishing returns and even negative effects of my carbs PWO. I think for the rest of this log I am going to cut out the WMS and leave the PWO carbs to 35g dex and then have some lower GI carbs about 45 min later with my "real" meal. Great pump and vascularity today, I think 8 Edge-NO is my sweetspot. So far so good on this log. My intensity is up, my strength seems to be slightly up, but my weight is way down and Im not sure why. My diet has been pretty good the last few days, and I even feel like I have gained some weight (fat). So I dunno what is going on. It could be a discrepancy between scales since I will be using a different scale until next Saturday when I go back to school. Hopefully the low weight is from being sick for a few days and my weight will jump back up within the week.

[bbgolfer]

Day 12- Yesterday

Eliptical machine 30 minutes at medium intensity.

Dosing: 5 caps N-CREAse pre breakfast/ 8 tabs Edge-NO pre bed


Day 13

Preworkout: 3 caps N-CREAse/8 tabs Edge-NO/1.6g Beta alanine

LEGS:

Smith Squat: 135x10 185x10 275x6 245x6 225x6 135x10(below parallel)

Seated leg press/calf press, superset: 200x12/20 280x10/20 300x8/20 200x8/25

Walking lunges: 30'sx10x2 35'sx10x2


SHOULDERS:

Overhead press: 87.5x10 100x8 112.5x6 87.5x6

Upright rows: 80x10 110x10 110x8 90x6

Underhand DB raises, dropset: 30x5 25x5 20x5 15x5

Postworkout: 35g dex/5g leucine/3g beta alanine/2 cap N-CREAse/40g whey


THOUGHTS: Really great workout today. I think my stamina is starting to increase as well as strength. The pumps and vascularity seem to be hit or miss. I get the best pumps and vascularity on back/bi days more than any other day. They have been decent so far, but nothing to write home about. With that said, I have never put to much bank on "pump" products anyway nor have I seen any appreciable results from using them.

[bbgolfer]

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Pre and post workout nutrition was the same as usual, nothing new to note here.

BACK:

Wide grip lat pulldown: 120x12 140x10 180x6(PR) 160x8 160x6

Low cable seated rows: 120x10 140x10 160x6 140x6

DB rows(each arm): 35x10 45x8 50x6 30x10


BIs:

EZ bar standing curls:75x10 95x6 75x8 75x6

Standing Cable curls: 30x12 35x10x3

DB curls(dropset): 30x5 25x5 20x5 15x5


THOUGHTS: Amazing workout. Besides the new PR on latpull downs, I absolutely F*cked my bis up. They were the most pumped they have ever been. Overall a great workout. I also got a nice lat/back pump which is rare for me. Strength and vascularity are up from the begining of the log. Only good things to note so far from this stack.

[10TonBrick]

Congrats on the PRs, lookin good man!

[bbgolfer]

Congrats on the PRs, lookin good man!

Thanks alot, its hard even sitting down to do them considering the weight is like 15lbs more than I weigh. :D

[10TonBrick]

Thanks alot, its hard even sitting down to do them considering the weight is like 15lbs more than I weigh. :D

yea i guess so lol.

man, i didnt know not may ppl were posting in here! ill drop by more often bro!

[bigbridrol]

THOUGHTS: Amazing workout. Besides the new PR on latpull downs, I absolutely F*cked my bis up. They were the most pumped they have ever been. Overall a great workout. I also got a nice lat/back pump which is rare for me. Strength and vascularity are up from the begining of the log. Only good things to note so far from this stack.

Awsome bro, you are the man!

[bbgolfer]

yea i guess so lol.

man, i didnt know not may ppl were posting in here! ill drop by more often bro!

Thanks bud, it was gettin lonely around here.

[10TonBrick]

Thanks bud, it was gettin lonely around here.

No Prob!

*subbed*

[10TonBrick]

no update yet? come on BBG! dont let down! ;):D

[10TonBrick]

POSTWORKOUT:
Shake 1: 5g leucine, 35g dex, 25g WMS, 2 n-crease, 3g beta alanine
Shake 2: 2 scoops whey iso.


nice lookin shake there :cool:

very close to mine. I do-

Shake 1: 70g Vitrago+2g Beta Alanine
Shake 2: 2-3 Scoops whey +30g Dextrose

(i just started doin this, wont be using the vitargo for long...too expensive :p)

[bbgolfer]

no update yet? come on BBG! dont let down! ;):D

heh...off day today. :o


nice lookin shake there :cool:

very close to mine. I do-

Shake 1: 70g Vitrago+2g Beta Alanine
Shake 2: 2-3 Scoops whey +30g Dextrose

(i just started doin this, wont be using the vitargo for long...too expensive :p)

Yea it was a pretty good shake, however I recently felt like my pre workout carbs were plenty and that I didnt need ~60g of high GI carbs post workout. So I am saving the WMS for another time and sticking to just 35g dextrose.

[10TonBrick]

heh...off day today. :o



Yea it was a pretty good shake, however I recently felt like my pre workout carbs were plenty and that I didnt need ~60g of high GI carbs post workout. So I am saving the WMS for another time and sticking to just 35g dextrose.

oo i see, i like a ton of carbs PWO as u can see...:)

[bbgolfer]

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I thought just for the hell of it I would log what I am listening to in the gym. so....

Workout music: The Devil and God Are Raging In Me by Brand New

CHEST:

DB press: 50x10 75x8 75x6 70x6 65x8

Incline press (machine): 170x10 190x10 210x8 240x 3 1/2 :D

Low cable cross overs: 60x8 65x8 65x6 55x8 45x8


TRIS:

Tricep press: 60x10 70x10 80x8 90x6 PR

DB kickbacks: 25x8 30x8 30x8 25x8


THOUGHTS: Another great workout, I must sound like a broken record. My intensity and focus was off the charts today. I got a damn good pump in both my chest and tris. When I was finished with the kickbacks, the pump in my tris actually hurt. On a different note, the 8 tabs of Edge-NO before bed on off days is really helping with my sleep. Whenever I take the Edge-NO before bed I am getting a deeper, longer more refreshing sleep...just something to note.

[10TonBrick]

Strong arms bro, nice

Good job the the Inclines and Db presses to!

[bbgolfer]

Strong arms bro, nice

Good job the the Inclines and Db presses to!

Ha..thanks alot. Although I wish the scale would reflect that atleast a little bit. Dunno what is going on there. But I am happy so far.

[10TonBrick]

Ha..thanks alot. Although I wish the scale would reflect that atleast a little bit. Dunno what is going on there. But I am happy so far.

Is your diet in check?

[bbgolfer]

Is your diet in check?

Yea, my diet is definately in check. However I always loose weight when I go home because I just never eat enough. I don't have as much flexibility with my meals as I do when I am at school and I buy my own food. Here was my diet yesterday...

Meal 1: 2/3 cup oats, 16oz non fat milk, 40g whey,1 spoonfull of nat. PB

Meal 2: 8-10oz 93% lean ground beef, 1 whole wheat bun, 1 slice of havarti cheese

Meal 3: 1 fat free yogurt, 6-8oz turkey (not lunch meat)

Meal 4: 10-12oz chicken, 10oz whole wheat pasta, couple spoonfulls of pesto sauce(olive oil, basil, almonds, garlic, parm. cheese).

The diet is good, I simply just need one more meal in there somewhere. Its hard to have my parents keep stuff I like to eat when I am only going to be home for a week. Yesterdays diet was particularly bad, because I played golf half the day so I didn't really have an opportunity to get in an extra meal. Todays diet will be better.

[10TonBrick]

Yea, my diet is definately in check. However I always loose weight when I go home because I just never eat enough. I don't have as much flexibility with my meals as I do when I am at school and I buy my own food. Here was my diet yesterday...

Meal 1: 2/3 cup oats, 16oz non fat milk, 40g whey,1 spoonfull of nat. PB

Meal 2: 8-10oz 93% lean ground beef, 1 whole wheat bun, 1 slice of havarti cheese

Meal 3: 1 fat free yogurt, 6-8oz turkey (not lunch meat)

Meal 4: 10-12oz chicken, 10oz whole wheat pasta, couple spoonfulls of pesto sauce(olive oil, basil, almonds, garlic, parm. cheese).

The diet is good, I simply just need one more meal in there somewhere. Its hard to have my parents keep stuff I like to eat when I am only going to be home for a week. Yesterdays diet was particularly bad, because I played golf half the day so I didn't really have an opportunity to get in an extra meal. Todays diet will be better.

well dang bro, i eat more than that on a cut...i would ad at least 2 meals to that. your meals are clean, but theres just not enough cals there!

[bbgolfer]

Workout music: Pennybridge Pioneers by Millencolin & The Illusion of Saftey by Thrice


LEGS:

Smith Squat: 135x10 185x12 225x10 285x6 235x6 135x10 (past parallel)

Leg press/calf press superset: 220x12/20 270x10/20 300x10/20 350x8/20

Seated calf raises: 45x20 70x20 80x20 80x20

Walking lunges: 30'sx12 30'sx15 30'sx15


SHOULDERS:

DB overhead press: 40'sx10 55'sx8 60'sx4 50x8

Underhand front raises (drop set): 30x10 25x10 20x10 15x10


THOUGHTS: I wasn't feeling that anxious to get into the gym today but that wore off after about my 4th set of squats. My legs felt pretty good today even though I hate doing smith squats. I hit my calves pretty well and ending a long leg workout with some lunges is always great :D I usually have the energy to do 3 different shoulder excercises, but not today. After that last set of front raises my shoulders were ON FIRE..I had to stop. Overall a very good workout, and my last one at home. I will be going back to school tomorrow and will be using my normal gym. However my schedule is changing because its a new quarter to I haven't quite figured out when I am going to go. I have about 6 days left on the Edge-NO and 12 on the N-CREAse. My weight is also up to about 164, which is still lower than when I started this log, but up since I got home.

[10TonBrick]

Nice squats and Db presses considering your weight.

why no side laterals?

[bigbridrol]

as RR said, EAT! at least ur goin bACk to school now!

[bbgolfer]

Nice squats and Db presses considering your weight.

why no side laterals?

Thanks! My shoulders were dead...it was a long workout, ~90 minutes or so. I usually don't do side laterals, but I probably should.


as RR said, EAT! at least ur goin bACk to school now!

Yea, I know I need to eat more, its just hard when I am home and there is a limited amount of suff especially when my parents only have to cook for themselves now, and they arent the biggest eaters in the world. Once I get back to school my weight will go back up and MAYBE I can get to 170 within this log.

[10TonBrick]

Thanks! My shoulders were dead...it was a long workout, ~90 minutes or so. I usually don't do side laterals, but I probably should.



Yea, I know I need to eat more, its just hard when I am home and there is a limited amount of suff especially when my parents only have to cook for themselves now, and they arent the biggest eaters in the world. Once I get back to school my weight will go back up and MAYBE I can get to 170 within this log.

heck yea u can take a crack at 170lbs! go for it!

I would highly recommend doing side laterals as well, they have helped me lots.

I do them with very short rest periods, they seem to work best that way.

[bbgolfer]

heck yea u can take a crack at 170lbs! go for it!

I would highly recommend doing side laterals as well, they have helped me lots.

I do them with very short rest periods, they seem to work best that way.

Thanks for the support bud.

I did the eliptical machine this morning for 30 min and burned about 300 cals. I took my N-CREAse about 10 min before a protein shake and then I headed to the gym. I am now back at school and ready to eat :D. Some good news, my weight is back up around 165-167, so I think I can get to 170 within 2 weeks.

[10TonBrick]

Thanks for the support bud.

I did the eliptical machine this morning for 30 min and burned about 300 cals. I took my N-CREAse about 10 min before a protein shake and then I headed to the gym. I am now back at school and ready to eat :D. Some good news, my weight is back up around 165-167, so I think I can get to 170 within 2 weeks.

Nice

I personally would drop the cardio if u want to gain weight, or at least do it very low intensity. just my .02

[bbgolfer]

Nice

I personally would drop the cardio if u want to gain weight, or at least do it very low intensity. just my .02

Yea, I really haven't been doing much, but I don't think once or twice a week with no carbs is really going to be too catabolic. I also put on fat pretty easily, so a little cardio now and then makes me feel a little leaner.

[10TonBrick]

Yea, I really haven't been doing much, but I don't think once or twice a week with no carbs is really going to be too catabolic. I also put on fat pretty easily, so a little cardio now and then makes me feel a little leaner.

Ah i see, i was unsure how often you were doing it.

If you get annoyed with me critiquing your diet/spit just say so, some ppl dont like it, but im just here to help :):D

[bbgolfer]

Ah i see, i was unsure how often you were doing it.

If you get annoyed with me critiquing your diet/spit just say so, some ppl dont like it, but im just here to help :):D

No man it's no problem. It's good to know someone is actually reading this lol.

I am going to switch my my workout days from WFSS to TTFS, that makes today an off day.

So far my supplement dosing has been..

-5 caps N-CREAse pre breakfast w/ 1.6g beta alanine
-Breakfast: 3-4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1 whole wheat bagel w/ nat. PB and honey, 1 vit. C, 1 Mult.

[10TonBrick]

No man it's no problem. It's good to know someone is actually reading this lol.

I am going to switch my my workout days from WFSS to TTFS, that makes today an off day.

So far my supplement dosing has been..

-5 caps N-CREAse pre breakfast w/ 1.6g beta alanine
-Breakfast: 3-4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1 whole wheat bagel w/ nat. PB and honey, 1 vit. C, 1 Mult.

a lot of people actaully read logs, its just that few ppl post in them...

dont be afraid of egg yolks, they are natures prohormone!

[bbgolfer]

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MUSIC: Full Circle by Pennywise

Well...some *** got my credit card info recently and placed a bunch of orders online for almost $380 so I have been dealing with that today..with that being said, my pre workout dose of N-CREAse and Edge-NO came about 3 hours after breakfast which is about twice as long as normal.

BACK:
Lat pulldown: 120x12 160x8 180x5 160x6 140x8

Cybex eagle row: 130x10 170x8 180x6 150x6

Dual arm row(alternating each arm): 100x8 140x8 120x8 100x8


BIS:

Preacher curl: 50x10 70x8 80x6 60x8 50x10

Low cable curl: 80x12 100x10 110x8 120x8 80x10


THOUGHTS: Because I took my dose so much later after a meal, it was absorbed MUCH better that usual because I got a better pump today than any other day on the stack. Before, I had OK things to say about Edge-NO, but I think if you wait awhile after a meal to take your dose, then it really kicks in. The pump is now gone about an hour after I left the gym, but during I was getting more of a hard pump than the painful ones I usually get. I only have 30 tabs of Edge-NO left and I haven't figured out how I am going to dose it...probably something like 7,8,7,8 for the next four days.

[10TonBrick]

Dang man, sorry to hear about your CC. what did the guy order, a bunch of porn? haha

nice workout none the less!

[bbgolfer]

Dang man, sorry to hear about your CC. what did the guy order, a bunch of porn? haha

nice workout none the less!

Oddly enough he/sher bought $300 worth of nutri systems food and some other stuff from another weight loss supplement store. But the wierd thing is that he/sher had it all sent to my home address. I am thinking he/she must have gotten the info from one of the places I order supplements from, thats the only thing I can think of.

[10TonBrick]

Oddly enough he bought $300 worth of nutri systems food and some other stuff from another weight loss supplement store. But the wierd thing is that he had it all sent to my home address. I am thinking he must have gotten the info from one of the places I order supplements from, thats the only thing I can think of.

thats wierd as hell bro...

[bbgolfer]

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I know I said my workouts would be TTFSat, but my girlfriend is going to be in town tomorrow and I didn't want to be at the gym while she was here so I just snuck in a workout today. I think I am also going to be out of town on friday, so it looks like my next two workouts will be sat. and sun. As my supply of Edge-NO is running out, my N-CREAse isn't running out as fast with my current dosing scheme...so I decided today and for the duration of this log I would switch from 3 pre and 2 post to 4 pre and 4 post.

MUSIC: Twisted By Design by Strung Out


CHEST:

Chest press: 7x10 13x8 14x5 11x6 9x8

Iso-lateral chest press: 197x8 247x2(I crapped out :() 197x6 154x8 104x10

DB bench press: 60x6 55x6 50x6 45x6


TRIS:

Tricep pushdown: 50x10 70x8 70x8 60x8 50x10

Tricep extension: 50x10 70x8 90x6 90x6 60x8

WEIGHT: 167.5


THOUGHTS:

My muscles do appear to be harder than at the beginging of this log. My strength is also up slightly. We will see if the increased N-CREAse will have any effect. Some other good news is that my weight is back up. Here is what my diet looked like yesterday:

Meal 1: 2 cups skim milk, 1 cup whole wheat cereal, 40g whey

Meal 2(PWO): 40g carbs, 40 whey

Meal 3: 7oz 93% lean ground beef, 1 whole wheat bun

Meal 4: 1 can tuna, 2 pieces WW bread, 2 scoops light mayo

Meal 5: 11oz chicken, 5oz WW pasta, tbsp olive oil, pesto sauce

Meal 6: 1 scoop Sustain, 10oz non fat milk


P.S. On a slightly gross side note, I have noticed that whenever I take a piss within 1-3 hours of taking this combo(usually right after my workout), my pee smells a little off...sort of like when those of you who have the certain gene, eat asparagus. Can any science guys or CEL reps comment if any of the ingredients in either of these would cause this???

[10TonBrick]

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I know I said my workouts would be TTFSat, but my girlfriend is going to be in town tomorrow and I didn't want to be at the gym while she was here so I just snuck in a workout today. I think I am also going to be out of town on friday, so it looks like my next two workouts will be sat. and sun. As my supply of Edge-NO is running out, my N-CREAse isn't running out as fast with my current dosing scheme...so I decided today and for the duration of this log I would switch from 3 pre and 2 post to 4 pre and 4 post.

MUSIC: Twisted By Design by Strung Out


CHEST:

Chest press: 7x10 13x8 14x5 11x6 9x8

Iso-lateral chest press: 197x8 247x2(I crapped out :() 197x6 154x8 104x10

DB bench press: 60x6 55x6 50x6 45x6


TRIS:

Tricep pushdown: 50x10 70x8 70x8 60x8 50x10

Tricep extension: 50x10 70x8 90x6 90x6 60x8

WEIGHT: 167.5


THOUGHTS:

My muscles do appear to be harder than at the beginging of this log. My strength is also up slightly. We will see if the increased N-CREAse will have any effect. Some other good news is that my weight is back up. Here is what my diet looked like yesterday:

Meal 1: 2 cups skim milk, 1 cup whole wheat cereal, 40g whey

Meal 2(PWO): 40g carbs, 40 whey

Meal 3: 7oz 93% lean ground beef, 1 whole wheat bun

Meal 4: 1 can tuna, 2 pieces WW bread, 2 scoops light mayo

Meal 5: 11oz chicken, 5oz WW pasta, tbsp olive oil, pesto sauce

Meal 6: 1 scoop Sustain, 10oz non fat milk


P.S. On a slightly gross side note, I have noticed that whenever I take a piss within 1-3 hours of taking this combo(usually right after my workout), my pee smells a little off...sort of like when those of you who have the certain gene, eat asparagus. Can any science guys or CEL reps comment if any of the ingredients in either of these would cause this???

lmao at the piss comment....

Looking good man, although i would say bump up the cals more! some peanut butter before bed would work great

[bbgolfer]

MUSIC: The Destruction Of Everything Is The Beginning Of Something New by Adair

PREWORKOUT: 8 Edge-NO, 5 N-CREAse


LEGS:

Incline leg press: 305x12 395x10 485x8 575x6 665x6 395x10

V-Squat: 234x10 324x10 414x10 234x10

Calf press: 130x25 150x25 160x15 170x15


SHOULDERS:

Underhand DB raises: 25x12 30x10x3

Shoulder Press: 6x10 8x10x3

Upright low-cable row: 80x10 100x10 130x10 140x8 160x8


THOUGHTS: Well I took my last dose of Edge-NO today so that subsequently ends my CEL stack log. I will post a final review probably tomorrow. As for todays workout..it was OK at best. I felt unfocused and sluggish the whole workout which isn't surprising since I haven't gotten a good nights sleep in 5-6 days. My strength was ok for being so tired, but I had no intensity and probably could have increased the weight on most of my excercises had I slept anywhere near decent. My weight is still hovering around 166.

[bbgolfer]

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First off I want to thank the guys at CEL for letting me test this stack, you guys have some solid products and hopefully you will continue to add to your current lineup.

LOOKS: 9/10 I have said it before, I think the packaging and the pills themselves are very attractive. You guys did a great job with this aspect of this stack.

STRENGTH: 8.5/10 I'm not really sure if I can attribute all of my strength gains to this stack as I was currently hitting on a few plateaus and was due to break them. Either way, this stack didn't hurt my strength at all. Before this log I was not supplementing with creatine on my off days, which could have posed a problem with my saturation. I could definately tell a difference in taking creatine every day.

ENDURANCE: 7/10 For the first few days of this log I experienced some pretty good endurance and found myself able to train longer and harder (heh heh ;) ) but as the log went on I found no real increase from that initial jump start. I think it was perhaps partial placebo effect. But then again, I wasn't really expecting too much of an increase in endurance.

PUMP: 7/10 I have really never put to much emphasis on pump/NO products as I haven't really read any good evidence supporting any claims that they increase muscle mass etc. Edge-NO definately gave me more of a pump than without it, but I had to increase my dose to 8 tabs/day and the dose had to come almost 2 hours after food to really see the effects. The pills were also huge and could be a pain for someone who has trouble swallowing pills. As far as a pure pump goes, anabolic pump trumps Edge-NO in this category.

SLEEP: 8/10 About a week or so into this log I decided to take my Edge-NO dose before bed on off days. And I really did see an increase in the "deepness" of my sleep on these days. As we all know, sleep is important for growth and repair, and I think Edge-NO was defiately more benificial in this aspect instead of being just a "pump product"

DOSAGE: 8/10 Even though there was only ~2.5g of creatine in each serving of this stack, I found that was enough to keep my stores saturated, and was fairly pleased with the amount, but I would not complain if there was about 1g more per serving. I think this would make people feel more comfortable with the dosage. I would also like to see more B-Alanine and no glyco. I think CEL needs to find some more efficient ingredients for Edge-NO (atleast for me). Taking two servings a day to see/feel decent effects would definately not be cost effective.

PRICING: 7.5/10 N-CREAse is priced pretty well to compete with most of the cappped creatine products out there, and I think with a slight reformulation (no glyco, more B-Alanine, and a tad more creatine) without a price increase, would make this product outstanding. I feel that Edge-NO is not really price friendly especially at 2 servings/day.

QUALITY: 9/10 As some of you may have read I took a random sample of each of the products and weighed them on my digi scale. Each one came out almost exactly like they should have. There was no spilled N-CREAse powder and no broken caps. And again, the packaging of these products was great.

OVERALL: 8/10 I felt like this was an overall quality stack. I felt some noticable effects and was definately pleased. However I feel like each product could use a slight reworking to be considered truely GREAT products. But for those of you who want a qulity stack with some good results, check out this stack. If you like capped/pill products, this should definately be a stack you should look into. These are two good initial products from CEL.

Thanks again to CEL and to those of you who read and enjoyed my log.

[10TonBrick]

Great reveiw BBG!

[bbgolfer]

Great reveiw BBG!

Thanks man, appreciate it.

[bigbridrol]

nice job bro and good review. Thanks for putting in the effort and glad you liked the stack