Nolvadex, Novedex, novadex...D@MN it

[DeepSeaSnake]

Got my order of PCT junk for an adventure down SD lane and ended up with 3 bottles of Novedex XT.

So what do I do with this stuff? Will is do anything as a stand alone? (the SD has to wait)

[hobbes1651]

No you need Nolvadex, search for tamoxifen citrate. Novedex is a testosterone booster and is not enough to restore levels after running superdrol. I recommend reading the Superdrol for dummies thread for a pct.

[punksurfer024]

unfortunatly nolvadex (prescription) is far from novedex (OTC) search for the thread title SD for dummies, TONS of info on cycling and PCT. good luck.

[security58]

u can just do a cycle of novedex xt and wait on the superdrol..... im on novedex xt and so far so good

[TR86]

yeah novedex xt is just a natural test booster. if your running SD, like said above you NEED NOLVADEX. i have some dumb friends that came off SD with novedex xt and they lost their gains real quick.

[DeepSeaSnake]

I guess I was unclear. I have no intention of subing nolvadex with novedex I am just stuck with 3 bottles of it cuz I ordered too fast.

My question is if Novedex XT is worth a sh!t by itself? My searching generally only genertates Gaspari links so I'm wondering what real people think of this stuff.
Security58 seems to like it, anyone else?

I got the SD stuff down pat, I'm not gonna do it just yet anyway. I'm gonna lose some weight first.

[2000ss]

Would Novedex XT work ok if I was coming off of another Test Booster such as SustEvol?

[Shea88]

if u dont want the xt i will take a bottle of your hands:D haha......as for using it for pct everyone here likes to go the nolva route but i know many people who only run the xt after a PH cycle and have never experienced any problems (gyno, lose of gains, loss of libido, etc) that are commonly expressed on this site. I suppose its a personal choice and your better to be safe than sorry going the Nolva route:)

[American Psycho]

Seriously how necassary is 6-OXO if you're going to be running nolvadex PCT?

I've read 6-OXO raises test levels by omitting estrogen, but that's exactly what Nolvadex does...

[Shea88]

NOLVA is a SERM and will eliminate estrogen but will not restore test levels, this is where 60x0 comes in, however NOvedex xt seems to be superior.

[American Psycho]

NOLVA is a SERM and will eliminate estrogen but will not restore test levels, this is where 60x0 comes in, however NOvedex xt seems to be superior.

Alright thanks bro, what would you recommend as for PCT in regards to Novadex. I had it at 600/600/300/300 for 6-OXO, just unfamiliar with the Novadex XT.

Edit: Also, don't mean to hijack your thread but it looks like you've got the answer. Thanks.

[zachattack43]

Got my order of PCT junk for an adventure down SD lane and ended up with 3 bottles of Novedex XT.

So what do I do with this stuff? Will is do anything as a stand alone? (the SD has to wait)
Nov XT works good by itself, here read these logs:(unsponsored)
PHbalanced: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=512924&highlight=gaspari

Lonny: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=483864&highlight=gaspari

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=14935251&postcount=26


I guess I was unclear. I have no intention of subing nolvadex with novedex I am just stuck with 3 bottles of it cuz I ordered too fast.

My question is if Novedex XT is worth a sh!t by itself? My searching generally only genertates Gaspari links so I'm wondering what real people think of this stuff.
Security58 seems to like it, anyone else?

I got the SD stuff down pat, I'm not gonna do it just yet anyway. I'm gonna lose some weight first.
SD may be "legal" but i wouldnt use it considering the issues that have risen from people use it, more people had problems with it than testosterone, i mean damn folks.....

Here is a good guideline to follow:
Use the PH/steroid, for PCT use Nolva (after half life has passed of your ph/steroid), then use 6-OXO or Nov XT to help your body get that Free test levels up fast and to help even up the ratio of test : estrogen

Would Novedex XT work ok if I was coming off of another Test Booster such as SustEvol?
SustEvol???? haha sounds like a crap product, sorry to say.

[sonicology]

It's also worth keeping in mind if you do run the superdrol that Dr D recommends to run clomid or toremifene instead of tamoxifen for PCT

[my_whey]

Novadex worked great for me stand alone for size, hardess and strength. I didn't like what it did to my libido, however. I think that was due to me taking 4 a night instead of 2.

[10TonBrick]

Would Novedex XT work ok if I was coming off of another Test Booster such as SustEvol?

is its the same as Sostanol 250 by IDS...which it sounds like it is, then NO

its a mix of Phera, Superdrol, and HaloD...u need proper PCT

[FitManJack]

I guess I was unclear. I have no intention of subing nolvadex with novedex I am just stuck with 3 bottles of it cuz I ordered too fast.

My question is if Novedex XT is worth a sh!t by itself? My searching generally only genertates Gaspari links so I'm wondering what real people think of this stuff.
Security58 seems to like it, anyone else?

I got the SD stuff down pat, I'm not gonna do it just yet anyway. I'm gonna lose some weight first.

Novedex XT by Gaspari is a strong ATD (aromatise inhibitor-ish) product. It WILL increase testosterone levels. That said, allow me to get on the soapbox...

1. Novedex XT has side effects. Most notably, aggression and acne. The acne is easy, just make time for a little extra showering & scrubbing and most fellas are okay.
2. Novedex XT will not only increase your body's testosterone, but it will decrease estrogen. This is both good and bad. Prolonged use of an ATD product will lead to problems; a common one being "dry joints". Novedex XT is strongly anti-estrogenic, so a full dose should not be maintained for long periods of time. Some estrogen is good;in fact, normal levels of estrogen is great.

This being said, a product like Novedex is GREAT when combined in light to moderate doses in a supplement stack. Here is what I recommend for a solid and inexpensive stack THAT ACTUALLY WORKS:

NOVEDEX STACK
1. Novedex XT taken 2 caps every night at bedtime. The recommended max dose is 4 caps. ONLY TAKE TWO.
2. Tribulus @ 1,600mg ed in divided doses
3. Avena Sativa 1,000mg ed in divided doses
4. Beta Ecdysterone 200mg ed
5. Quality creatine product taken per recommendations on packaging
6. Quality nitric oxide product taken per recommendations on packaging

Some shopping around will get you low prices on these items. TRIB-650 is inexpensive, and any good tribulus will both boost LH levels and keep your libido high while on Novedex XT. Avena Sativa and Beta Ecdysterone DO WORK, especially in tandem with tribulus and an ATD product. The creatine and NO are icing on the cake.

Almost anyone can incorporate this cycle with great results if they have solid training, rest and diet.

Good Luck,
FMJ

[mele421]

Would Novedex XT work ok if I was coming off of another Test Booster such as SustEvol?

SustEvol is not a test booster. You should research before taking designer steroids because then you would know that Novedex XT won't help you at all. You need to be taking proper support supps and run a proper PCT to get your test and estrogen levels back to their normal levels.

is its the same as Sostanol 250 by IDS...which it sounds like it is, then NO

its a mix of Phera, Superdrol, and HaloD...u need proper PCT

You're absolutely right.

[10TonBrick]

SustEvol is not a test booster. You should research before taking designer steroids because then you would know that Novedex XT won't help you at all. You need to be taking proper support supps and run a proper PCT.



You're absolutely right.

thanks

[zachattack43]

Novedex XT by Gaspari is a strong ATD (aromatise inhibitor-ish) product. It WILL increase testosterone levels. That said, allow me to get on the soapbox...

1. Novedex XT has side effects. Most notably, aggression and acne. The acne is easy, just make time for a little extra showering & scrubbing and most fellas are okay.
2. Novedex XT will not only increase your body's testosterone, but it will decrease estrogen. This is both good and bad. Prolonged use of an ATD product will lead to problems; a common one being "dry joints". Novedex XT is strongly anti-estrogenic, so a full dose should not be maintained for long periods of time. Some estrogen is good;in fact, normal levels of estrogen is great.

This being said, a product like Novedex is GREAT when combined in light to moderate doses in a supplement stack. Here is what I recommend for a solid and inexpensive stack THAT ACTUALLY WORKS:

NOVEDEX STACK
1. Novedex XT taken 2 caps every night at bedtime. The recommended max dose is 4 caps. ONLY TAKE TWO.
2. Tribulus @ 1,600mg ed in divided doses
3. Avena Sativa 1,000mg ed in divided doses
4. Beta Ecdysterone 200mg ed
5. Quality creatine product taken per recommendations on packaging
6. Quality nitric oxide product taken per recommendations on packaging

Some shopping around will get you low prices on these items. TRIB-650 is inexpensive, and any good tribulus will both boost LH levels and keep your libido high while on Novedex XT. Avena Sativa and Beta Ecdysterone DO WORK, especially in tandem with tribulus and an ATD product. The creatine and NO are icing on the cake.

Almost anyone can incorporate this cycle with great results if they have solid training, rest and diet.

Good Luck,
FMJ

Novedex XT is an aromatase inhibitor mean it prevents test from behind to SHBG
Read:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=21979641&postcount=58

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=21980301&postcount=59


Arginine or a NO product is good for PCT. Not sure on trib since the studies are etchy at best

[DeepSeaSnake]

Okay cool I'll read through some of that stuff.

Last question, I'm a about 275lbs right now, should I still stick to 2 pills a day or can I go up to 3 or 4?

Since this is an AI I don't have to worry about PCT or anything funny but is there anything else I should be aware of before I start chuggin these bottles.

Jack - I can't buy any more supps, I gotta stick to whats takin over my night stand, closet and cupboards in the kitchen and bathroom. If I can manage to free up some space through one cycle of these things maybe I can collect the stuff you mentioned. For now I stick to Protein, Glutamine, CEE, NOX and Animal Packs

[zachattack43]

Okay cool I'll read through some of that stuff.

Last question, I'm a about 275lbs right now, should I still stick to 2 pills a day or can I go up to 3 or 4?

Since this is an AI I don't have to worry about PCT or anything funny but is there anything else I should be aware of before I start chuggin these bottles.

Jack - I can't buy any more supps, I gotta stick to whats takin over my night stand, closet and cupboards in the kitchen and bathroom. If I can manage to free up some space through one cycle of these things maybe I can collect the stuff you mentioned. For now I stick to Protein, Glutamine, CEE, NOX and Animal Packs

Start off with 2, then work up to 3 or 4, but most users experience libido problems at high doses, so 2 caps seems to be ideal. Yea, no PCT for a product that is made for "PCT"

[2000ss]

Wow... I got in way over my head. Im taking SustEvol and I was told that all I needed was Novedex XT. I feel like such an idiot. Can yall give me some recommendations on what I need for PCT? Thanks yall its really appreciated.

[10TonBrick]

Wow... I got in way over my head. Im taking SustEvol and I was told that all I needed was Novedex XT. I feel like such an idiot. Can yall give me some recommendations on what I need for PCT? Thanks yall its really appreciated.

i would stay at the lowest dose u can until u can get some Nolva.

check ur PM box

this is not somting to toy around with, its a PH thatwill destroy ur lipids and natty test levels if u dick around with it

[my_whey]

Wow... I got in way over my head. Im taking SustEvol and I was told that all I needed was Novedex XT. I feel like such an idiot. Can yall give me some recommendations on what I need for PCT? Thanks yall its really appreciated.

I ran Novadex xt only for a SD PCT before. That was because my Nolva was delayed. I have had no problems doing this either but I do not reccomend it.

[10TonBrick]

I ran Novadex xt only for a SD PCT before. That was because my Nolva was delayed. I have had no problems doing this either but I do not reccomend it.

thats why we never do a cycle without having everything we need

[my_whey]

thats why we never do a cycle without having everything we need

I had everthing I needed minus Nolva.... the place I was getting it from was reliable so I had no worries at the time.

Oh well, Novadex did the trick for me and everything went smoothly.

[10TonBrick]

I had everthing I needed minus Nolva.... the place I was getting it from was reliable so I had no worries at the time.

Oh well, Novadex did the trick for me and everything went smoothly.

i see, still, just using as an example, no flaming