See and Say

[Karty]

Does anyone even come close??????

[dseiler]

No. In that form, no one comes remotely close.

**** Lex Luger, that IS the total package.

[Slim_DaDDy]

I dont know, but im interested to see what Jay Cutler will look like this year. He says he's competing between 270-280. I think he was 254 at the 2001 Olympia, and he'll be in even better condition. I think Ronnie is going to come in at 275..just for the sake of weighing 275. Remember..Jay BEAT Ronnie in the phsyique rounds but lost in the posing rounds. So dont think Jay hasn't worked on his posing :D.

[RealDeal2099]

Originally posted by Slim_DaDDy
I dont know, but im interested to see what Jay Cutler will look like this year. He says he's competing between 270-280. I think he was 254 at the 2001 Olympia, and he'll be in even better condition. I think Ronnie is going to come in at 275..just for the sake of weighing 275. Remember..Jay BEAT Ronnie in the phsyique rounds but lost in the posing rounds. So dont think Jay hasn't worked on his posing :D.

I believe Jay competed at around 265 at the 2001 Olympia, increased his weight to 270 for the 2002 Arnold with roughly the same conditioning, and brought in an even sharper, albeit smaller, package for the 2003 Arnold at 257 pounds. In MD, Jay claimed that he is capable of competing at a solid 280 pounds, but to be at his all-time best in terms of conditioning he will need to be about 270 at the '03 O.

Irregardless of Ronnie's size, I believe Jay has all the tools to take out the champ at this year's show...his legs, especially the quads and calves, are much better than Ronnie's, and his hamstrings are just as good (Ronnie's are a little more separated, but if you look at them they are flat, with little belly to them, when viewed from behind).

Upper body wise, no one can beat Ronnie from the back (except maybe Victor Martinez in a few years, the man is THICK!), but Jay's tight midsection and wide delts may help him overcome Ronnie at the show. Peace!

[arnie365]

Im a big Jay fan though Ronnie in 2001 condition is unstoppable.

What lets ronnie down in my opinion is his abs which is genetic.

He also has a tendancy to come in a bit bloated in recent times.

When he did the Arnold a couple of years back he looked tight as a drum and no one will beat him if he comes looking like that.

[Omar]

i think ronnie does have better arms and back for sure tho. its gonna be a close call.

[reanimator485]

If ronnie were competing with the physique from 99, there would be no doubt he would win. It is really hard to maintain that kinda perfection for so long. If that were the case, there would never be a new mr olympia. But this year, from what ive seen, it looks like jay will defeat him. Ronnie is putting so much emphasis on weight that he forgets that dexter jackson finished ahead of gunter at last years olympia with an 80 pound plus deficit.