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El Pena
02-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Received the Cissus this afternoon so I will be starting the log tomorrow. I will be judging its effectiveness based on how both my knees and shoulders feel, particularly my left shoulder which I injured last January, and still is not fully recovered.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 capsules
Servings per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Cissus Quadrangularis Extract (standarized for 40% total Ketosterones & 20% 3-Ketosterone).
1,000 mg **

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.

INGREDIENTS: Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate. Contains NO solvent residues, allergens, artificial flavoring or colors.

El Pena
02-23-2007, 04:48 PM
Good day today right knee was a bit tender and left shoulder had a dull ache as usual. Did not note any additional discomfort during the workout, was pleased by this especially on Dips which usually cause an increase in the level of ache of the shoulder. This is not unexpected as Cissus is supposed to have a mild analgesic effect, keeping this in mind I'm going to be careful not to push harder than I otherwise would, just because I'm not feeling the pain.

Strained my right quad sprinting on Wednesday so far it has only kept me from doing lunges, but if it prevents me from doing other exercises I will note it in the log.

El Pena
02-24-2007, 11:39 AM
Right knee felt great today no pain at all, left shoulder on the other hand feels terrible, woke up this morning with it very stiff and achy, don't know if I slept on it wrong or something, it did not prevent anything from getting done in the gym so all is good on the workout front.

Off day tomorrow.

El Pena
02-26-2007, 04:43 PM
Nice day today, knees felt great although the right leg is a bit tight from the strain on my quad, had to go lighter than I planned to on squats because of this. Had a nice run after the workout as well no problems with the knee, and the quad was nice and loose by then so it didn't hold me back any; will probably skip the scheduled sprints on Wednesday. The shoulder is not feeling much better yet, still nothing I'm not used to though hopefully that will change in the coming weeks.

El Pena
02-27-2007, 09:12 PM
Had to skip split squats due to right quad pain, everything else went as planned. Knees felt good all day, shoulder feels a little better today, although I did get a massage in class so that helped with the pain as well. Not much soreness to report although for me thats not unusual.

El Pena
02-28-2007, 07:26 PM
Excellent workout today, shoulder felt better than usual, and the knee gave me no problems at all until after my run, it was a bit tender but that has gone away since. On a not good note for me they are moving the heavy bag in the cardio room elsewhere and until they decide where I can't use it so I will have to figure out something else for cardio until they do which sucks. Although I suppose it will do my shoulder some good to get away from it for a bit.

El Pena
03-01-2007, 07:42 PM
Workout went excellent today, shoulder was stiff but not painful after a little warmup to loosen it up everything went well. Knees are feeling pretty good as well.

El Pena
03-02-2007, 06:09 PM
Shoulder once again felt decent most of the day, still a dull ache but not as annoying as usual, the pain I'd been having in the right knee has apparently decided to migrate over to my left :p, which is now a bit tender while the right feels great.

WordzWorf
03-03-2007, 02:27 PM
Have you noticed any Anabolic/Fat Loss effects of the PrimaForce Cissus??I know Cissus is suppose to have some Anti-Cortisol properties.

El Pena
03-03-2007, 04:01 PM
As far as fat loss weighed in this morning at 206 which was a 4lb drop this week although that is more than planned, lost 2lbs. last week on roughly the same calorie deficit could just be water though so I can't necessarily say its helping yet.

Can't really say for anabolic properties as I've been on Blue Up/Nos Precursor for a bit which has really helped my strength. I'm going off of them today so if I can maintain my strength in the next few weeks despite the low cal diet and no longer taking that combo then I'd consider the cissus to be having an effect in that department, but I'll have to wait and see.

Joints feel pretty good today, went and shot around the basketball for a while and then did some cardio afterwards.

El Pena
03-05-2007, 05:50 PM
Knees feel great today, right shoulder feels good, and the left is feeling better although it is still a little stiff and tender.

El Pena
03-06-2007, 08:34 PM
Not much new to report knees have been feeling good so far this week, right shoulder feels great, left is still painful at times during the day, but the constant pain is gone.

El Pena
03-07-2007, 03:24 PM
Well joints are feeling good for the most part shoulder pain is mostly gone with the occasional little twinge now and then in the left one. Unfortunately I decided to test out my right quad on sprints again and strained it once again this time more so than last as this time around its much more painful. I'm icing it down a few times tonight and will see how it feels tomorrow. Either way I'm definitely staying away from sprints for at least 4 weeks this time if I even decide to go back to them.

El Pena
03-08-2007, 04:13 PM
Joints are feeling pretty good today, my right quad feels like crap. It's tight and tender at rest and hurts like hell when I stretch it. I'll be laying off of everything until Monday to give it a few days to heal and see how things go from there.

El Pena
03-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Got in a minor car accident on Friday, and had been without a car since. Got to the gym today and everything felt great, other than the quad, skipped lunges so as to not risk aggravating it. Running didn't go as well as planned only went 1 mile and decided to call it a day. I'll be listing my workouts from here on out.

Today's Workout - Usually takes me 3-4 sets before I get to the max attempt, non max sets not listed.

3RM day

Rack Pulls - 320
BB Bench - 210
Power Clean & Press - 115
Single Leg Curl - 100
Pulldowns, pron. - 190
Toe Press - 810

Cardio 1 mile run.

El Pena
03-13-2007, 08:24 PM
Day started out well but in the last few hours my left shoulder has started hating on me. Decent workout today.

4 sets 8 reps

Seated Single Leg Press - 145
T Bar Row - 92.5
Pushups, legs elevated on swiss ball - 20 reps
Cable Lateral Raise - 25
Rope Pressdown - 100
Hammer Curl - 35
Rev. Crunch - 15

Cardio 25 mins. heavy bag.

El Pena
03-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Shoulder is feeling better, and I have very little soreness. I did burn some skin off of my right elbow on the heavy bag today though, if it's not one thing its always another with me :p.

Yesterday's workout

4 sets 8 reps

Asst. Pullups - -60
GHR's - BW
Incline DB Fly - 45
Seated DB Press - 50
Seated Calf - 165
Seated Cable Row, wide - 130
Rev. Forearm Curl - 70

Cardio 1 mile run

Today's workout

4 sets 16 reps

Squat - 95
BB Row, sup. - 95
Shoulder BB Press - 45
Low Pulley Crossover - 60
Standing DB Tricep Ext. - 45
CB Curl, wide - 35
Ext. Cable Rotation - 15

Cardio - 20 mins heavy bag.

El Pena
03-16-2007, 06:30 PM
Shoulder is much improved today, quads are sore as all hell other than that everything else feels good.

Today's workout

4 sets 16 reps

Deads - 135
Incline BB - 95
Split Squat - 45
DB Lateral Raise - 10
Single Leg Ext. - 40
Pulldowns, sup. - 60
HS Seated Calf - 50

Cardio 1 mile run.

El Pena
03-17-2007, 01:07 PM
Cardio only today hit the heavy bag for about half an hour then played some 3 on 3, shoulder is feeling slightly better, quads are still very sore, and I took 2 elbows to the face in the span of 15 seconds while playing basketball :mad:. Just some minor bleeding around some teeth and a couple small cuts on the inside of my mouth so not as bad as it could have been.

Beast
03-19-2007, 08:20 AM
Wow I totally missed this log! Looks like you've been through some rough times lately.

El Pena
03-19-2007, 04:27 PM
Eh it's hasn't been great but I've had much worse times in recent years, on a positive note school's been going great and despite the nagging injuries workouts have been great, and being in the PT program comes with the benefit of free therapy when we practice modalities.

Today's workout

3RM except dips

Leg Press - 900
One Arm DB Row - 125
Dips - 22 reps
Cybex Overhead Press - 130
One Arm Tri Pressdown - 70
Rev. Crunch - 70
MTS Crunch - 100

Cardio 1 mile.

El Pena
03-20-2007, 08:19 PM
Shoulders are feeling relatively good today, knee pain only occurs right after running and is usually gone within an hour, no pain whatsoever today. Not much soreness to not either.

Today's workout

4 sets 8 reps

Assist. Chins - -50
Romanian Deads - 205
High Pulley Crossover - 160
Face Pulls - 130
Standing BB Calf Raise - 165
Seated Cable Row, narrow - 170
Forearm Curls - 100

Cardio 20 mins. heavy bag.

Beast
03-21-2007, 07:09 AM
on a positive note school's been going great and despite the nagging injuries workouts have been great, and being in the PT program comes with the benefit of free therapy when we practice modalities.



NICE!

El Pena
03-21-2007, 08:05 PM
Pretty good day today pain wise, workout went kind of bad though just didn't seem to have it today. I need to get more sleep as I've not been getting anywhere near enough this week.

4 sets 8 reps

Front Squats - 145, 4th set only 4 reps.
BB Row, pron. - 160
Incline DB Press - 80, 3rd & 4th set only 5 reps.
UH Pressdown - 80
Seated DB Press - 55
CB Curl, narrow - 75, 4th set only 5 reps.
Cuban Rot. - 30

Cardio 1 mile run.

El Pena
03-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Excellent day today, workout went really well, joints are feeling relatively good, although there is soreness in my right forearm thanks to the electrostim I got in class yesterday.

4 sets 16 reps, except lunges

Rack Pulls - 135
BB Bench - 95
Lunges - 100ft. * 4
Cable Lateral - 15
Single Leg Curl - 30
Pulldowns, pron. - 60

Cardio 20 mins. heavy bag.

El Pena
03-25-2007, 09:58 AM
First off thanks to SciVation/PrimaForce for making excellent products at great prices and to Beast for selecting me to test this product. I definitely like this Cissus it has reduced my joint pains, and while some days were better than others; for the most part after about 2 weeks I have not had any strong pain. I also had some improved recovery and reduction in DOMS.

I'll rate it an 8 out of 10 for reducing my joint pain, and 9 of 10 at reducing my DOMS.

I currently have some Osteobolin C which I'd planned to try before being selected to test PrimaForce Cissus so I will be using that for a few weeks, after which I'll decide which Cissus to continue using, given the cost comparison I'm going to give a slight edge at this point to PrimaForce unless the Osteo is just amazing.