Beast's Anabolic Pump Log (Unsponsored)

[Beast]

It has been quite some time since I've done a log, so I decided to do one :)

Supplement: USP Labs Anabolic Pump
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/usp/anabolic.html

Note: This is an UNSPONSORED LOG.

I've gone from 196 to 201 lbs in the past 5 weeks, while staying at the same bodyfat%, so I am progressing well. My current diet is:
-6 meals a day
-42 grams of protein per meal
-10-15 grams of fat per meal
Meal 1 = 60 carbs
Meal 4 (Post Workout) = 60 carbs
Meals 2,3,5,6 = VEGGIES

Training
4 days a week Upper/Lower split, with 30 minutes cardio done pre-workout.
1-2 of my off days I do 30 minutes on the Treadmill following by some speed/heavy bag work.

Current Supplements:
Xtend
Creaform
Glutaform
Beta-Alanine
Taurine
Multi-Vitamin

Was using but dropped for this log:
Insopro-R (R-ALA)
Cinnulin PF
Pro-Liver

[FORCE RECON]

oooo snap :p

I'm along for the ride! :cool:

[TT22]

Good luck, *Subscribes*

Very interested in your opinion,

Jdub

[strengthinnumbers]

Good stuff bro. I'll be following along as well. What's your overall calorie load for the day? Are you taking the AP with carb rich meals only? Very interesting product.

[Beast]

Good stuff bro. I'll be following along as well. What's your overall calorie load for the day? Are you taking the AP with carb rich meals only? Very interesting product.

Protein: 250 Grams (1000 Calories)--Not counting workout Aminos
Carbs: 200 Grams (800 Calories)--May increase depending on how AP works
Fat: 90 Grams (810 Calories)

Total Calories = 2610

I am taking 1 AP before meal 1(which has 60 grams of carbs), pre-workout, and before post-workout meal (which has 75 carbs).

[fitnfirm]

Good luck with AP ! Ill be watching :)

[warriors]

Def. will be following this

[zergling]

This definitely is a pleasant surprise! Good luck Derek!

[avian]

subscribe

this should be an awesome log and review

[SPACECLOWN]

Stalking

[Renthal]

Awesome, hopefully you see some great results. I'll definatley be keeping my eye on this log.

[factotum]

Should be a great log. Are you lean bulking because 2600 cals seems almost like a cut to me or at least it would be for me.

[Beast]

Should be a great log. Are you lean bulking because 2600 cals seems almost like a cut to me or at least it would be for me.

Yes LEAN bulking.

Day 1 Observations

Capsule #1
I got lethargic about an hour or 2 after meal #1. After I ate meal #2 I was ok for an hour, but then got lethargic again until I ate meal #3. No feeling of an increased pump.

Capsule #2
Taken 15-20 minutes pre-workout with EAA, Beta-Alanine, and Glutamine. No increased pump during my workout.

Capsule #3
Taken 15 minutes before meal #4 (post workout) which is a LARGE complex carb meal. Did not feel an increase in pump or anything.


Day 1 Conclusions
I did not feel any increase in pump or notice any effects from AP today.

[Striver]

*subscribed*

[Beast]

Day 2
I've been feeling light headed all morning which may be due to not eating enough carbs with AP, but I am not going to change my diet until after week 1.

[pu12en12g]

Awesome.. subscribed :cool:

[Elliptical Envy]

Good luck with this Beast!

[DrnkMnky]

Great to see you logging this! I have been getting extremely lethargic after my first dose before breakfast, and that is after eating 120 g carbs. Subsides after 2nd meal though.

[Blast_]

Subbed. Good luck!

[fitnfirm]

Day 2
I've been feeling light headed all morning which may be due to not eating enough carbs with AP, but I am not going to change my diet until after week 1.

dang, thats gotta suck :( Dont go getting delerious on me :) I need you!!!!!! lol

[paraclesus]

Dang this is going to be a good log. I can't wait to see what you think about this. This should be the ultimate test for AP.

[avian]

One of the doses you are taking is without carbs at all (pre workout i believe)?
You could talk to the USPLabs guys to see if you should be doing 2 caps a day since you have only 2 carb meals. Anyway i think you got this covered!

[huntsmen1989@msn.com]

this should be intresting. i just started Anabolic Pump as well and hope to see some good results! good luck. *subscribed*

[Beast]

Day 3
Off day, nothing to report

Day 4
I have still yet to experience any increase in pump or any other noticeable effects.

[Blast_]

Thanks for the updates man! Hopefully something will come up.

[cobain67]

Day 3
Off day, nothing to report

Day 4
I have still yet to experience any increase in pump or any other noticeable effects.

Hmm, maybe the fats are delaying that pump feeling others feel? I noticed the same thing after I began adding efas to my carb meals when I'd take Glucophase-XR or similar products. I'd get a bit lethargic, and the instant fullness didn't occur as it did when I excluded added fats..

The power of insulin control :)

[retro_roots]

subscribed.

Should be titles "THE AP log."

[user1111]

Protein: 250 Grams (1000 Calories)--Not counting workout Aminos
Carbs: 200 Grams (800 Calories)--May increase depending on how AP works
Fat: 90 Grams (810 Calories)

Total Calories = 2610

I am taking 1 AP before meal 1(which has 60 grams of carbs), pre-workout, and before post-workout meal (which has 75 carbs).

15 minutes before?

[Beast]

15 minutes before?

Yes.

I am thinking about moving my 2nd cap of the day 15 minutes before meal #3, so my schedule would be:

AP Cap #1 (7:45 AM)
Meal #1 (8AM) (60 Grams Complex Carbs)

Meal #2 (11AM)

AP Cap #2 (1:45 PM)
Meal #3 (2PM)

Workout 3:30-5PM

AP Cap #3 (5:15 PM)
Meal #4 (5:30 PM) (75 Grams of Complex Carbs)

Meal #5 (7-7:30 PM)

Meal #6 (10-10:30 PM)

I'm not making any diet changes until after week 1. Meals 2,3,5 and 6 contains veggies and/or fruit with EFAs and some random carbs (i.e. low-carb tortilla or 1/2 can of healthy choice soup with meat and veggies).

[G.W. Hayduke]

Subbed. Myself and a friend have both felt that light headedness you reported. But it doesn't seem to occur everytime even when taken in the same caloric "environment".

Good luck! :cool:

[Beast]

Still no noticeable effects felt. I will be taking my body composition (weight, bf%) on Sunday, so we will see if there are any unusual changes (remember I have been gaining a solid lean pound a week for the past 5 weeks).

[G.W. Hayduke]

Would you say that you are nomrally highly "responsive" to carbs. In other words, your body has no problem making good use of your carb intake and, given your many years of healthy eating and exercise, you utilize insulin efficiently.

Have you ever used other glusoce or insuline supps like gymnema sylvestre? And I knwo you're utilized k-r-ala. How does this compare (although they do work differently)?

I'm thinking a highly trained person will already have a predominance of GLUT in muscle cells (not to mention a lower BF% anyways) therefore the actions behind AP would likely be unnoticed and unnecessary. However, this same person would probably respond very well to something like k-r-ala.

Just a thought. :)

[Beast]

Would you say that you are nomrally highly "responsive" to carbs. In other words, your body has no problem making good use of your carb intake and, given your many years of healthy eating and exercise, you utilize insulin efficiently.

Have you ever used other glusoce or insuline supps like gymnema sylvestre? And I knwo you're utilized k-r-ala. How does this compare (although they do work differently)?

I'm thinking a highly trained person will already have a predominance of GLUT in muscle cells (not to mention a lower BF% anyways) therefore the actions behind AP would likely be unnoticed and unnecessary. However, this same person would probably respond very well to something like k-r-ala.

Just a thought. :)


I've used ALA, R-ALA, K-R-ALA, Cinnulin PF. Your theory could be true, that a highly trained person or a person at a lower bf% may not notice benefits like a less trained person.

With R-ALA, K-R-ALA, and Cinnulin, if I take too much of them I feel hypoglycemic.

[pu12en12g]

Still no noticeable effects felt.

Bummer dude !!! Hopefully it kicks in soon....

[BOSMIA bulk]

oh wow i cant believe i missed this...my apologies sir, i will be following

[ziggy24]

I didn't notice any affects for the first week or so and was pretty frustrated, but today when I was doing my back workout, my lower back felt so pumped. Stick with it man.

[DrnkMnky]

I didn't notice any affects for the first week or so and was pretty frustrated, but today when I was doing my back workout, my lower back felt so pumped. Stick with it man.

Same for me. I started using AP during a cut, and the effects didn't fully kick in till 1-2 weeks. Now while bulking and 1.5 months of use I can really tell a difference.

[stacked2]

subscribed

[spiderduncan]

subscribed

[Kledz]

I've used ALA, R-ALA, K-R-ALA, Cinnulin PF. Your theory could be true, that a highly trained person or a person at a lower bf% may not notice benefits like a less trained person.

With R-ALA, K-R-ALA, and Cinnulin, if I take too much of them I feel hypoglycemic.

Do you know what your BF% is at right now?

[Beast]

Do you know what your BF% is at right now?

Caliper Measurements are:
Chest = 3 mm
Ab = 6 mm
Quad = 8 mm

Which comes out to 4% on the calipers, which I add 3% to, so 7% based on caliper reading.

Start
Weight: 201
BF%: 7%
Lbs. Lean Mass: 186.93
Lbs. Fat Mass: 14.07

Week 1
Weight: 201
BF%: 7%
Lbs. Lean Mass: 186.93
Lbs. Fat Mass: 14.07

So no change going by the numbers. I look leaner in the mirror though.

Diet change for this week: 1/2 Grapefruit or other fruit to my 4 low carb meals. So those meals will include:
42 grams protein
15 grams fat
1 Cup Veggies
1/2 piece of fruit

Also adding 15 grams of carbs for my EAA 15 minutes pre and post workout. So in total I am adding about 50 grams of carbs (200 calories).

[Beast]

Still no increase in pump or any noticeable effects with the added carbs pre and post workout.

[spoonman]

Perhaps it really is the "Genetic Equalizer". Aeter's theory is pretty interesting. Lots of guys are getting amazing results but you arent with your superhuman genetics. (1 lean lb/week is damn good!)

I actually have had a cold for the last 4-5 days and I started taking AP about a week ago. I have been on a mainly shake diet and no gym obviously but my body has drastically improved. Usually I look like hell when I'm sick but my BF has decreased and I look bigger. I cant wait to hit the gym today.

[eddie1234]

Caliper Measurements are:
Chest = 3 mm
Ab = 6 mm
Quad = 8 mm

Which comes out to 4% on the calipers, which I add 3% to, so 7% based on caliper reading.

Start
Weight: 201
BF%: 7%
Lbs. Lean Mass: 186.93
Lbs. Fat Mass: 14.07

Week 1
Weight: 201
BF%: 7%
Lbs. Lean Mass: 186.93
Lbs. Fat Mass: 14.07

So no change going by the numbers. I look leaner in the mirror though.

Diet change for this week: 1/2 Grapefruit or other fruit to my 4 low carb meals. So those meals will include:
42 grams protein
15 grams fat
1 Cup Veggies
1/2 piece of fruit

Also adding 15 grams of carbs for my EAA 15 minutes pre and post workout. So in total I am adding about 50 grams of carbs (200 calories).

doesnt that mean these aint doin nothin either?

extend
Creaform
Glutaform
Beta-Alanine
Taurine
Multi-Vitamin

[redvision]

Great detailled log so far, and you're shape is amazing man!

Keep at it, hopefully it'll kick in in the next few days... I'll make it or brake it for me

Red

[Beast]

doesnt that mean these aint doin nothin either?

extend
Creaform
Glutaform
Beta-Alanine
Taurine
Multi-Vitamin

I gained 5 pounds lean mass in the past 5 weeks. Dieting and training are far more important than supplementation. My current program is working. I am stating that I have not experienced any additional benefits since adding in Anabolic Pump, no increase in pumps, no change in progress (my bodycomposition actually didn't change last week though it did the 5 weeks prior to adding AP).


Beta-Alanine is one of my current favorite supplements.

[triplewhammy]

Wow, how did I miss this log too! Glad to see you giving AP a try Beast!

As far as the results, in your diet I would recommend a MINIMUM of 60g carbs. I actually go with 70-80. Also, I would imagine a majority of your veggie carbs are fiber, so taking AP with those meals probably wouldn't be quite as beneficial. Now obviously you know what you're doing so don't think I'm trying to tell you how to diet, but I believe this advice can help use AP to its fullest.

I'll be watching!

-triple

[Beast]

Wow, how did I miss this log too! Glad to see you giving AP a try Beast!

As far as the results, in your diet I would recommend a MINIMUM of 60g carbs. I actually go with 70-80. Also, I would imagine a majority of your veggie carbs are fiber, so taking AP with those meals probably wouldn't be quite as beneficial. Now obviously you know what you're doing so don't think I'm trying to tell you how to diet, but I believe this advice can help use AP to its fullest.

I'll be watching!

-triple

Meal 1 and Post-workout meal (which I take AP 15 mins prior to) contain 60+ carbs each. Breakfast has 1 Cup Oatmeal and 1 Cup Milk. Post workout varies but always has 60+ carbs. I added some additional carbs during the day and pre and post workout as well this week. Probably will up my carbs next week as well.

[triplewhammy]

Meal 1 and Post-workout meal (which I take AP 15 mins prior to) contain 60+ carbs each. Breakfast has 1 Cup Oatmeal and 1 Cup Milk. Post workout varies but always has 60+ carbs. I added some additional carbs during the day and pre and post workout as well this week. Probably will up my carbs next week as well.

Excellent. :cool:

-triple

[the woo]

I gained 5 pounds lean mass in the past 5 weeks. Dieting and training are far more important than supplementation. My current program is working. I am stating that I have not experienced any additional benefits since adding in Anabolic Pump, no increase in pumps, no change in progress (my bodycomposition actually didn't change last week though it did the 5 weeks prior to adding AP).


Beta-Alanine is one of my current favorite supplements.

wow a pound a week of lean mass i am amazed,i didnt think it was possible for the body to build that much muscle without unnatural help...good work man

[the woo]

Beta-Alanine is one of my current favorite supplements.[/QUOTE]

Do u just use bulk BA...Ive used AEN'S IXL was great

[Beast]

wow a pound a week of lean mass i am amazed,i didnt think it was possible for the body to build that much muscle without unnatural help...good work man

Well that is going by the scale and calipers, which are 100% accurate, but the best way to track stuff unless you have access to a Dexa machine :)

[user1111]

Meal 1 and Post-workout meal (which I take AP 15 mins prior to) contain 60+ carbs each. Breakfast has 1 Cup Oatmeal and 1 Cup Milk. Post workout varies but always has 60+ carbs. I added some additional carbs during the day and pre and post workout as well this week. Probably will up my carbs next week as well.

I would not increase carbohydrates until you feel muscle fullness and density. Anabolic Pump increases what I call contraction strength. You achieve a deeper harder muscle contraction.

take care

[Beast]

Beta-Alanine is one of my current favorite supplements.

Do u just use bulk BA...Ive used AEN'S IXL was great[/QUOTE]

Bulk BA.

[caddimike]

subbed.

[Beast]

Still no increase in muscle fullness or density. I will be running AP for another week and after the Arnold I run something else.

[triplewhammy]

Still no increase in muscle fullness or density. I will be running AP for another week and after the Arnold I run something else.

Strength increase? Weight increase? DOMS decrease?

-triple

[pu12en12g]

Still no increase in muscle fullness or density. I will be running AP for another week and after the Arnold I run something else.

Do you respond well to Cinnulin ?

[HalleluYAH]

Do you respond well to Cinnulin ?

bump to that^^^.

[Appetite]

Hi Derek

While your here I just wanted to say thankyou for this article

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast41.htm

For me the most useful piece I have read in over a year.

There are very few bulking articles for specifically for endos and advice from other bulking articles was causing me to gain to much fat.

This article caused me to re-think my diet.

Very good read

[Beast]

Do you respond well to Cinnulin ?

I think so. If I eat my normal oatmeal breakfast and take 1 cap Cinnulin with it I am good, but if I take 2 caps I get SUPER hypoglycemic, so obviously it is working.

[Beast]

Strength increase? Weight increase? DOMS decrease?

-triple

Strength is progressing at the same rate as it was before adding AP. No change in DOMS.

[sobelik]

man i cant believe i just now found this...subbd

[Beast]

Bumping. Still nothing to report. I will continue talking AP while at the Arnold, which will include some LARGE carbs meals :)

[triplewhammy]

:cool:


-triple

[Beast]

:cool:


-triple

Great meeting you Whammy :)

[fitnfirm]

I am :mad:

I didnt know you and Marc where at the AC until I got back and saw people mention you were at the BN booth :( I would of loved to meet you both. I guess you all didnt make it around to the **** booth either.
It sure was a crazy weekend huh !!!!!!!!!! :)

[Skigazzi]

Bumping. Still nothing to report. I will continue talking AP while at the Arnold, which will include some LARGE carbs meals :)

First time I saw this log....the product is of interest to me so Im in for the rest of it.

[Beast]

I am :mad:

I didnt know you and Marc where at the AC until I got back and saw people mention you were at the BN booth :( I would of loved to meet you both. I guess you all didnt make it around to the **** booth either.
It sure was a crazy weekend huh !!!!!!!!!! :)


Yeah we were hiding on in the BN booth by EAS. The only time I walked around was to use the bathroom.

[Beast]

After 3 weeks of AP use, I honestly didn't notice anything. As of today I am switching back to ALA and Cinnulin.

[Blast_]

Thanks for reviewing this BEAST. Helped me out when I was thinking of purchasing it.

[Skigazzi]

After 3 weeks of AP use, I honestly didn't notice anything. As of today I am switching back to ALA and Cinnulin.

Damn...day I found the log, it ended....well, good info for sure.

[triplewhammy]

After 3 weeks of AP use, I honestly didn't notice anything. As of today I am switching back to ALA and Cinnulin.

Sorry to hear bro. Are you just ditching the final week then?

Perhaps it truly is the genetic "equalizer".... good news for me, maybe I can catch up to you quicker! ;)

-triple

[retro_roots]

Sorry to hear bro. Are you just ditching the final week then?

Perhaps it truly is the genetic "equalizer".... good news for me, maybe I can catch up to you quicker! ;)

-triple

I think this is a fair evaluation, its possible the product is more effective for a person who is less sensitive to carbs (or more sensitive depending on how you look at it) and less useful for someone how already absorbs carbs quickly and doesnt need a very high amount to maintaine recoverey and such.

[triplewhammy]

I think this is a fair evaluation, its possible the product is more effective for a person who is less sensitive to carbs (or more sensitive depending on how you look at it) and less useful for someone how already absorbs carbs quickly and doesnt need a very high amount to maintaine recoverey and such.

Very true. I know Layne Norton has said similar things regarding Arach. Acid supplementation. Even basic things like creatine monohydrate get varied responses in some.

-triple

[pu12en12g]

After 3 weeks of AP use, I honestly didn't notice anything.

Damn.... :(

[little rambo]

After 3 weeks of AP use, I honestly didn't notice anything. As of today I am switching back to ALA and Cinnulin.

That's ok man your still jacked outta your friggin mind!!

[DragOn133]

I think so. If I eat my normal oatmeal breakfast and take 1 cap Cinnulin with it I am good, but if I take 2 caps I get SUPER hypoglycemic, so obviously it is working.

Sorry for bumping this thread , but I saw a lot of people with the same symptoms, such as "hypoglycemic" induced reaction fro AP and even R-ALA...

My question is, I have been using ALA for years, sometimes I would get hypo but 95% of the time not. With AP I am feeling a bit lightheaded , hypo even with increased carbs and lethargy now.. I used 3 sample packs of 12 caps each until they were gone, at 2-3 a day. Then I picked up a bottle of AP, the bottle which are yellow caps also seems WAY STRONGER as my sample AP didn't make me feel this way.

Can it be over the course of getting weeks into the AP I need to up my carbs? I am keeping it rather low since I am carb sensitive, but still over 30 grams! Can Hypoglycemia brought on by ALA or AP be dangerous, should I worry about the hypo/lethargy/tiredness? No one seems to worry, thoughts guy's? My questions ultimately is, is it normal and can it hurt me in any way becoming hypo from a product?

Martin