*Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs Thread

[PR1MO]

http://www.erickstevens.net/uc.jpg

You guys think I need to bring up my traps?

I added high pulls into my workouts and my traps have never hurt so much. Just an FYI....

[lovingit]

Dat V taper, its all genetics. Some have it some dont. Play the cards you were dealt, lift heavy and profit.True that. No matter how small I get, my waist stays wide. The upside is that I have ok obliques, even at a higher bf%. :D

[SOJA]

Uh Mandy, you can't join. Not with that avi.

[lovingit]

Uh Mandy, you can't join. Not with that avi.I'm never allowed in any of the clubs. Except the former fatty club. :(

[MarkVI]

How the heck did I miss this thrad?!?! I am the king of this crew

[Trillios]

Where do I submit my Resume?

[sawoobley]

Where do I submit my Resume?

Resume rejected. Too many visible muzkels.

[Trillios]

Resume rejected. Too many visible muzkels.

Not for long lol.

Brb hips too high, ribs too low for bodybuilding so I'll look like a fat hulk when bulking.

[foodandfitness]

5'8" wt. 155-160 lbs

Bench- 235x1
Front squat- 275x1
Back squat 305x4
Clean- 180x1
26" vertical

[nb4Gainz]

I'm never allowed in any of the clubs. Except the former fatty club. :(

You can be in my club HAAAAYYYYY...... nb4WhiteKnight

[jammyo40]

Man, I feel like such a phaggot for cutting right now :(

[JasonDB]

Man, I feel like such a phaggot for cutting right now :(

Stats: 5'8", 163 lbs

Cutting at 163 = ED.

[sawoobley]

Stats: 5'8", 163 lbs

Cutting at 163 = ED.

http://www.healthdiscovery.net/links/calculators/ideal_bw_men.htm

[ThatWei]

So in, bulking, up 2kgs in 2 1/2 weeks, PRs all round!
For now I will claim it is creatine + glycogen + water weight :D

[JasonDB]

http://www.healthdiscovery.net/links/calculators/ideal_bw_men.htm

I am 90 lbs over my ideal weight damn... but let's assume I am 20% bf (I have a flat stomach and a small waist but have a fair amount of fat so will work with this). That puts me at 188 lbs of lbm. That also means at 198 lbs I would be 5% bodyfat. Methinks according to this calculator the ideal man is a tiny weak phaggot. They want everyone to be a twink.

[sawoobley]

I am 90 lbs over my ideal weight damn... but let's assume I am 20% bf (I have a flat stomach and a small waist but have a fair amount of fat so will work with this). That puts me at 188 lbs of lbm. That also means at 198 lbs I would be 5% bodyfat. Methinks according to this calculator the ideal man is a tiny weak phaggot. They want everyone to be a twink.

Are you comparing yourself to dat dere normal people who don't even lift? Dat guy who wants to be monster big is wondering why he is so much bigger than everybody else. lol

Edit: I agree it underestimates weights slightly but not by much. Most people don't lift. I was 6'1" @ 145 lbs for many years when I was younger and even into adulthood. Healthy and very active and athletic. Dat dere skinny genetics. 10-15 lbs heavier than my parents were at my age and I ate like a horse. I even tried weight gainer 2000 for a while and it didn't help. Being skinny =/= poor health. VVV

[mattypoole]

http://www.healthdiscovery.net/links/calculators/ideal_bw_men.htm

Not sure how much I'd trust that. It punches out a figure suggesting I should be 160 at which I would be having serious health issues from being underweight.

[nb4Gainz]

They want everyone to be a twink.

This.



Those diagrams are such a load of bollocks.

[SOJA]

As appealing as resembling a Holocaust victim is, I would rather be swole and relatively lean. That and I would love to curl the next girl I date.

[LegosInMyEgos]

so i figured out how to deadlift for reps now.

if I start the deadlift at the top, I can rep out 405 for about 12.

if I start the deadlift at the bottom, I can do 405 for 3.

I have no idea why this is, and I swear I am not trolling. I find it ghey and hilarious.

[LegosInMyEgos]

http://www.healthdiscovery.net/links/calculators/ideal_bw_men.htm

im perfect for my extra large frame

[JasonDB]

Are you comparing yourself to dat dere normal people who don't even lift? Dat guy who wants to be monster big is wondering why he is so much bigger than everybody else. lol

Edit: I agree it underestimates weights slightly but not by much. Most people don't lift. I was 6'1" @ 145 lbs for many years when I was younger and even into adulthood. Healthy and very active and athletic. Dat dere skinny genetics. 10-15 lbs heavier than my parents were at my age and I ate like a horse. I even tried weight gainer 2000 for a while and it didn't help. Being skinny =/= poor health. VVV

I haven't been 145 (the ideal weight it gave me) since I was 12 (srs). Even when I was a runner and dropped down to 170 when I was running 5 miles every morning and on an 1800 calorie diet (and had managed to run 12 miles in one day), people thought I lifted but I did not, I was a runner (my doctor said I was around 15-16% bf at 170 and I did not lift). I don't think even with my non-lifting natural muscle mass it would be possible for me to be 145 even if I shreaded down 6 pack lean and stopped lifting completely for 2-3 years.

So to recap that I was 270 at 18, took up distance running, and at 170 a year later my doctor said I was 15-16% bf, healthy and didn't need to lose any more weight. My exercise was mostly (95%)running with some pushups and jumping jacks and a bit of manual labor around the family ranch a couple days a week. I gained 20 lbs my first year lifting weights.

[sawoobley]

I haven't been 145 (the ideal weight it gave me) since I was 12 (srs). Even when I was a runner and dropped down to 170 when I was running 5 miles every morning and on an 1800 calorie diet (and had managed to run 12 miles in one day), people thought I lifted but I did not, I was a runner (my doctor said I was around 15-16% bf at 170 and I did not lift). I don't think even with my non-lifting natural muscle mass it would be possible for me to be 145 even if I shreaded down 6 pack lean and stopped lifting completely for 2-3 years.

The point is I was underweight and had a small/thin frame, even according to those charts with no ED. That is no longer the case. My frame got much larger and I gained weight in my late 20's late bloomer I guess.

It's possible for jammyo40 to safely cut at 5'8" and 163 for a few pounds. It's difficult for us to know what's ideal for him with those numbers without seeing some pics. My main point.

[JasonDB]

The point is I was underweight and had a small/thin frame, even according to those charts with no ED. That is no longer the case. My frame got much larger and I gained weight in my late 20's late bloomer I guess.

It's possible for jammyo40 to safely cut at 5'8" and 163 for a few pounds. It's difficult for us to know what's ideal for him with those numbers without seeing some pics. My main point.

Sorry I was not meaning that you were not terribly underweight just pointing out that before I started lifting and after a year of extreme dieting and losing 100 lbs with distance running and dieting I am certain I did not gain any muscle as I wasn't resistance training and lost 100 lbs in a year, but my lean body mass, if my doctor was right, was as high as the bodyweight they think I should be. I could not be 145 lbs regardless of how lean I got, unless I lost my natural untrained muscle mass also. My natural untrained lbm if dieted down to 5% would still be heavier than 145 lbs. These charts are absurd.

[sawoobley]

Sorry I was not meaning that you were not terribly underweight just pointing out that before I started lifting and after a year of extreme dieting and losing 100 lbs with distance running and dieting I am certain I did not gain any muscle as I wasn't resistance training and lost 100 lbs in a year, but my lean body mass, if my doctor was right, was as high as the bodyweight they think I should be. I could not be 145 lbs regardless of how lean I got, unless I lost my natural untrained muscle mass also. My natural untrained lbm if dieted down to 5% would still be heavier than 145 lbs. These charts are absurd.

So you don't think you could have gotten down to 152-172 lbs as the chart suggests for a normal weight natty non-lifter with a large frame? Keep in mind that at 5'8" and 172 lbs you'd be as big as LegosInMyEgos is in his avi. ;). Maybe they need another category for extra large frame?

[LegosInMyEgos]

5'8" and 172 lbs you'd be as big as LegosInMyEgos

he wouldnt look like he lifts at 172 lbs?

[sawoobley]

he wouldnt look like he lifts at 172 lbs?

Our discussion is about whether or not the link to the chart about normal body weights for male (non-lifters) is accurate. If it is then jammy might be able to cut at his current body weight for a few pounds. The discussion took a tangent...It's all good. Jason doesn't think he could have ever really fit the charts.

[JasonDB]

So you don't think you could have gotten down to 152-172 lbs as the chart suggests for a normal weight natty non-lifter with a large frame? Keep in mind that at 5'8" and 172 lbs you'd be as big as LegosInMyEgos is in his avi. ;). Maybe they need another category for extra large frame?


Our discussion is about whether or not the link to the chart about normal body weights for male (non-lifters) is accurate. If it is then jammy might be able to cut at his current body weight for a few pounds. The discussion took a tangent...It's all good. Jason doesn't think he could have ever really fit the charts.

Well do the math. I lost 100 lbs by running and eating under 2000 calories a day to get down to 170, had a 34" waist and my doctor said I was 15-16% bf and at a healthy level, and I had not started lifting yet. So assuming the upper end of what he said that would put me at around 143 lbs of lbm. Also that weight was still depleted, so I doubt I would have lost further glycogen and water from further dieting as I was on 1800 calories and low carbs and doing daily running. In my case I naturally had roughly 143 lbs of lbm before lifting weights, and not carbup up. If I had 10 lbs liposuctioned off from there to put me at 160 I would have been in the single digits on bf. I think those charts do not take into account that some people have massively more muscle mass naturally than others before training. I also could squat 315 a month after I started lifting. To fit those charts pre-lifting I would have had to lose at least 15 lbs of muscle mass and be at 9-10%bf.

I was bigger than LIME's avatar a year after I picked up my first barbell. 18 months into my training I was 195 at about 15% I think (my old leg avatar pic was around this time I had cuts in my quads so 15% seems reasonable), with a 320ish bench, 450ish squat and a 500ish deadlift.

[LegosInMyEgos]

I was bigger than LIME's avatar a year after I picked up my first barbell. 18 months into my training I was 195 at about 15% I think (my old leg avatar pic was around this time I had cuts in my quads so 15% seems reasonable), with a 320ish bench, 450ish squat and a 500ish deadlift.

for your wifes sake I would hope you were bigger than my avatar, its not even an inch big on most screens

[JasonDB]

for your wifes sake I would hope you were bigger than my avatar, its not even an inch big on most screens

Ah lawd! No the wife is happy with my size there, brohamalis. :D

Then again isn't how big it is, it is how you use it.

[LegosInMyEgos]

Ah lawd! No the wife is happy with my size there, brohamalis. :D

Then again isn't how big it is, it is how you use it.

whats interesting about my avi is that there are 2 ways to interpret it.

how big I am depends on whether or not you visualize my back as part of my arm.

I'm either 14 inch arms, or 20 inch arms

[JasonDB]

whats interesting about my avi is that there are 2 ways to interpret it.

how big I am depends on whether or not you visualize my back as part of my arm.

I'm either 14 inch arms, or 20 inch arms

I caught that... you are like me, torso mass stacks on easy, arms lag if they don't get a lot of special attention.

[tswdan]

Dear Diary,

I did not PR anything this morning at the gym. Set a few yesterday and plan to set more on Friday/Saturday.

Had a real off day with this mornings lifts, but still got through the workout. Aside from the workout I had to go shopping at lunch for new work shirts as I have outgrown all of the medium sized polos and button-ups I own. I am now a full size up that are a fitted cut. Probably not a huge feat for some of the UC faithful, but a year ago I was two sizes under what I bought today.

The End.

[JasonDB]

Dear Diary,

I did not PR anything this morning at the gym. Set a few yesterday and plan to set more on Friday/Saturday.

Had a real off day with this mornings lifts, but still got through the workout. Aside from the workout I had to go shopping at lunch for new work shirts as I have outgrown all of the medium sized polos and button-ups I own. I am now a full size up that are a fitted cut. Probably not a huge feat for some of the UC faithful, but a year ago I was two sizes under what I bought today.

The End.

After yesterday's deadlift PR I went down and bought 2 XL shirts. :D

Gratz on your shirt size level up.

[mkal]

Finished week 1 day 2 of Smolov yesterday and my legs aren't sore at all :-(

[cgattshall]

Jason- what grip do you use when you deadlift? I started double overhand but as I started to pull 400+ I just can't hold onto the bar with a Double OH grip...

[joelash302]

Hook or mixed grip are fine for deads, despite what some may tell you (trap imbalance lolz). Just don't try to curl the weight if you do mixed.

[JasonDB]

Jason- what grip do you use when you deadlift? I started double overhand but as I started to pull 400+ I just can't hold onto the bar with a Double OH grip...

What type of bar do you use? I use mixed grip alternating each set until I changed gyms. We have only bench/squat bars and a no chalk policy so am strapping right now once I get past 405 on the bar, and just do seperate grip work every day (I squeeze tennis balls even when just laying around). I've never been able to master a hook grip.

Sometimes you have to strap up anyway when doing volume work on deadlifts. Jamie Lewis pulled 655 raw at 181lbs bw and uses straps only for training and dose seperate grip work. So, do what you have to do there. However yes it is very easy to get to a point where double overhand isn't going to cut it for your deadlift training even if you can pull one single with it.

[psychodiver9]

I've gotten away from straps but considering going back for heavy sets. I missed my heaviest sry this week as my grip failed. The weight was going up easy but felt it was goof to slip out of my hands

[tswdan]

The only time I'll use straps for deads anymore is high volume 5+ reps with heavier weights which is typically only during rack pulls. I think in the beginning I was relying a little too much on them and hadn't developed my grip well enough. Being able to pull 400+ now without straps feels amazing.

[taptomyarmbar]

In - PR's all the way from here and completed my week at maintenance now adding cals. Goodbye abs. :-)

[mattypoole]

My grip is weak as fuk (has always been a weak point). Lifting is helping but I need to do some extra work on it outside the gym.

[taptomyarmbar]

My grip is weak as fuk (has always been a weak point). Lifting is helping but I need to do some extra work on it outside the gym.

Redtube FTW

[cgattshall]

What type of bar do you use? I use mixed grip alternating each set until I changed gyms. We have only bench/squat bars and a no chalk policy so am strapping right now once I get past 405 on the bar, and just do seperate grip work every day (I squeeze tennis balls even when just laying around). I've never been able to master a hook grip.

Sometimes you have to strap up anyway when doing volume work on deadlifts. Jamie Lewis pulled 655 raw at 181lbs bw and uses straps only for training and dose seperate grip work. So, do what you have to do there.

My gym also only has bench/squat bars but fortunately we can use chalk so I haven't needed to use straps yet. I have no problem with straps if they're absolutely necessary but I prefer to pull raw. Has the tennis ball technique been working for you? It sounds like a solid idea.. Also-- not trying to stereotype, but are you a footy fan? I'm a pretty big fan of English football personally.

[NegatronPrime]

My gym also only has bench/squat bars but fortunately we can use chalk so I haven't needed to use straps yet. I have no problem with straps if they're absolutely necessary but I prefer to pull raw. Has the tennis ball technique been working for you? It sounds like a solid idea.. Also-- not trying to stereotype, but are you a footy fan? I'm a pretty big fan of English football personally.

Jason is a fan of being from Texas

[JasonDB]

Jason is a fan of being from Texas

This is true I am a Texan originally. Actually rugby seems to be the most alpha sport in the UK.

[cgattshall]

Actually rugby seems to be the most alpha sport in the UK.

Intredasting.. my sister's fiancee plays rugby. He's definitely alpha.

[tswdan]

Rugby is pretty alpha no matter where you are or from.

Canada's Adam Kleeberger

http://blindsiderugby.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Kleeberger4.jpg

[JasonDB]

For the unaware.

lMbKxesO0L8

[tswdan]

A group of friends and I used to play pick-up Rugby growing up. Started an unofficial Rugby league in highschool also that spanned the district. Was pretty awesome when I was able to go and play.

I still get chills each time I see the All Blacks do the Haka.

Literally let out an "Oh my god!" at the 3:05 mark in the video above.

[ErickStevens]

Sometimes I look at myself in the mirror and I get the urge to cut. Then I have workouts like today and I cease to give fuks.

Feels good to know you can probably double the same weight that buried you 6 months ago. :)

[JasonDB]

Sometimes I look at myself in the mirror and I get the urge to cut. Then I have workouts like today and I cease to give fuks.

Feels good to know you can probably double the same weight that buried you 6 months ago. :)

I definately know that feel. One reason I am just not likely to take a cut seriously for a good while.

[ErickStevens]

I know I can double 455 on squats and that same weight absolutely crushed me in October.

I pause benched 245 for an triple today with easily 2 more reps in the tank. I think I'd be good for a paused double of 265, the same weight that got stuck just off my chest at my first meet in October.

The only lift that has stalled (at least in a competitive sense) is the deadlift. I need to build I'm my conditioning so that I'm not fatigued by the time DLs roll around at a meet. I think Coan/Philippi will help a lot with that.

[joelash302]

For the unaware.

lMbKxesO0L8

So is the point of the game to kill someone or is just like a component of scoring?

[JasonDB]

So is the point of the game to kill someone or is just like a component of scoring?

I think you get bonus points based on the body count.

[sawoobley]

I think you get bonus points based on the body count.

Would never play /10. One of the football players at my high school got hurt playing football without pads with a few people of the field. Brb, walking with a very severe limp for the rest of his life.

[mattypoole]

Would never play /10. One of the football players at my high school got hurt playing football without pads with a few people of the field. Brb, walking with a very severe limp for the rest of his life.

It's like any contact sport, there's a risk of injury but it's safe for the most part.

I played prop for a few years and had some scrums collapse on me, never got more than some phaggot trying to stomp on my face occasionally (but did see some mates get pretty badly hurt).

Would get destroyed if I tried to play now/10

[SoulZeppelin]

It's like any contact sport, there's a risk of injury but it's safe for the most part.

I played prop for a few years and had some scrums collapse on me, never got more than some phaggot trying to stomp on my face occasionally (but did see some mates get pretty badly hurt).

Would get destroyed if I tried to play now/10

Have been looking for local club rugby but there really isn't any around here other than a semipro team. Rugby is the chit. Would definitely play if there was some sort of rec league.

[mattypoole]

Have been looking for local club rugby but there really isn't any around here other than a semipro team. Rugby is the chit. Would definitely play if there was some sort of rec league.

What position mate?

Haven't played for years, but I'm assuming at your height you'd be a 2nd rower?

[Andrew_S]

Does this crew include people that always screw up bulks and put on too much weight too fast? Dreamer bulky time?

[mkal]

Does this crew include people that always screw up bulks and put on too much weight too fast? Dreamer bulky time?

I'm doing exactly that right now (running Smolov on a bulk) ... first couple days I fulked-out and definitely gained multiple lbs of fat (not just bloat), now I'm on damage control and trying to recover from the binging without under-eating for Smolov.

[SoulZeppelin]

What position mate?

Haven't played for years, but I'm assuming at your height you'd be a 2nd rower?

Almost always have been a lock lol. Would love to be a winger but have never been fast enough. Haven't played in years though. Maybe if we had an over 30 club next year I could try again as a youngster lol.

What position do you play?

[mattypoole]

Almost always have been a lock lol. Would love to be a winger but have never been fast enough. Haven't played in years though. Maybe if we had an over 30 club next year I could try again as a youngster lol.

What position do you play?

I played prop mostly, last couple of years I played I was a breakaway.

[SoulZeppelin]

I played prop mostly, last couple of years I played I was a breakaway.

Props are rugged bro. You must squat like a madman.

[LegosInMyEgos]

I know I can double 455 on squats and that same weight absolutely crushed me in October.

I pause benched 245 for an triple today with easily 2 more reps in the tank. I think I'd be good for a paused double of 265, the same weight that got stuck just off my chest at my first meet in October.

The only lift that has stalled (at least in a competitive sense) is the deadlift. I need to build I'm my conditioning so that I'm not fatigued by the time DLs roll around at a meet. I think Coan/Philippi will help a lot with that.

Oh, by the way, you can keep a log of your LIME bench on my secret logging site if you want, and I can give you feedback.

[ErickStevens]

Oh, by the way, you can keep a log of your LIME bench on my secret logging site if you want, and I can give you feedback.

Most def. When the time comes I'll start one up.

[BBqChicken1]

there's this kid in the teen section, 17 yrs old, natty(admitted to cycling in a few months) and benches 505, i mean, how is such a thing even possible, he's 308lbs but still, that's pretty impressive

[jammyo40]

there's this kid in the teen section, 17 yrs old, natty(admitted to cycling in a few months) and benches 505, i mean, how is such a thing even possible, he's 308lbs but still, that's pretty impressive

hiUFLb-2Eq0

[joelash302]

Contemplating negs for posting an Ian video in the unaesthetic crew thread, despite relevancy.

[cgattshall]

Fellow UC brethren: my sister is getting married on July 15th and with all of my family and friends coming in town, I am planning on bulking up to ~185-190 in an attempt to get rid of the "do you even lift?" look. My question for you all, as masters of the bulk, is what should I do? Besides the obvious "eat in a surplus" and "lift heavy" what have y'all found as the most useful tool for putting on mass semi-quickly?

I'm planning on running Lyle's GBR and eating at a ~400-500 cal surplus. Do you recommend keeping a log on BB.com? I've never really bulked before, so I'm looking for any pointers.. Thanks comrades

[midcoastking33]

Contemplating negs for posting an Ian video in the unaesthetic crew thread, despite relevancy.

He compared caring about bench numbers to caring about the size of another guy's dick. I loled

[FunkymonkAW]

Fellow UC brethren: my sister is getting married on July 15th and with all of my family and friends coming in town, I am planning on bulking up to ~185-190 in an attempt to get rid of the "do you even lift?" look. My question for you all, as masters of the bulk, is what should I do? Besides the obvious "eat in a surplus" and "lift heavy" what have y'all found as the most useful tool for putting on mass semi-quickly?

I'm planning on running Lyle's GBR and eating at a ~400-500 cal surplus. Do you recommend keeping a log on BB.com? I've never really bulked before, so I'm looking for any pointers.. Thanks comrades

Keep a log and be sure to get stronger.

[Andrew_S]

Contemplating negs for posting an Ian video in the unaesthetic crew thread, despite relevancy.

I neg people anytime they post his vids. :p

[Andrew_S]

Sorry for the back to back posts unaesthetic brahs. Anyway, for a drug free guy that isn't a noob, how bad is a roughly 50/50% body fat to muscle gain ratio on a bulk? I suck at it...looks like I put on 10lbs fat and 10lbs muscle since eating like a slob, but I have to figure the stats out to be sure. I feel kinda dumb, but it is what it is. I don't put on strength very easy and I've mostly just been trying to get stronger bit by bit. I think I'm going to do a shorter cut (not drastic, strength seems to tank if I cut back cals too much) and then for the first time make an honest attempt to put on some size while still getting stronger.

[BunkMoreland]

Sorry for the back to back posts unaesthetic brahs. Anyway, for a drug free guy that isn't a noob, how bad is a roughly 50/50% body fat to muscle gain ratio on a bulk? I suck at it...looks like I put on 10lbs fat and 10lbs muscle since eating like a slob, but I have to figure the stats out to be sure. I feel kinda dumb, but it is what it is. I don't put on strength very easy and I've mostly just been trying to get stronger bit by bit. I think I'm going to do a shorter cut (not drastic, strength seems to tank if I cut back cals too much) and then for the first time make an honest attempt to put on some size while still getting stronger.


i wouldnt worry too much about it. when you cut, the ratio of fat loss to muscle loss will be leagues better. long as the muscle is packing, #'s are going up: keep eating, keep lifting

[ErickStevens]

Got in trouble for bending a bar today. Felt good man.

[SOJA]

Got in trouble for bending a bar today. Felt good man.

Godzilla mode.

[Andrew_S]

Got in trouble for bending a bar today. Felt good man.

LOL, let me guess. Rack pulls. Unless you're stronger than I know and...

http://www.golfdriverreviews.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/strongman-bending-bar.jpg

[ErickStevens]

LOL, let me guess. Rack pulls. Unless you're stronger than I know and...

[img]http://www.golfdriverreviews.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/strongman-bending-bar.jpg[/img

4cthvGGAJDo

;)

[SOJA]

Rockin' dem adult size diapers, Eric?

[tswdan]

Sorry for the back to back posts unaesthetic brahs. Anyway, for a drug free guy that isn't a noob, how bad is a roughly 50/50% body fat to muscle gain ratio on a bulk? I suck at it...looks like I put on 10lbs fat and 10lbs muscle since eating like a slob, but I have to figure the stats out to be sure. I feel kinda dumb, but it is what it is. I don't put on strength very easy and I've mostly just been trying to get stronger bit by bit. I think I'm going to do a shorter cut (not drastic, strength seems to tank if I cut back cals too much) and then for the first time make an honest attempt to put on some size while still getting stronger.


i wouldnt worry too much about it. when you cut, the ratio of fat loss to muscle loss will be leagues better. long as the muscle is packing, #'s are going up: keep eating, keep lifting

Completely agree with Bunk here.

Andrew I don't know your history with trying to cut to lose the fat or actively trying to put on weight to get stronger, but when I was finally able to hurdle the mind**** of trying to bounce back and forth between putting on weight and cutting fat for aesthetics it was the healthiest and best thing I've ever done. I am stronger and very noticeably bigger than I've ever been. There's fluff being added, but I just upped my workload in the gym because I know I eat/gorge out like I'm on a mission. Just saying this in hopes that you aren't (or don't often) bounce between cutting/bulking often because you see the fluff come on. It's a major obstacle for many, but man.. once it's cleared the strength gains are just nuts.

In relation my bulk is going well. Strength is up. PRing lifts every week. Maxes are steadily climbing and size is definitely coming on. Got felt up and down this weekend when I was out at the bars and go some of the best compliments I've ever gotten and this is why I'm putting on mad weight. Felt crazy weird awesome unreal. Was told my legs felt like iron and caught my date completely slack jawed looking at my upper back/shoulders/traps. That's some great motivation to keep going headstrong and full steam away with the bulking. ---end brag----

[Andrew_S]

Thanks for the advice guys. I really won't have long to cut then I'll bite the bullet and eat up. :)

[tswdan]

Thanks for the advice guys. I really won't have long to cut then I'll bite the bullet and eat up. :)

You might get some use out of this article (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html) if you haven't read it.

[Andrew_S]

You might get some use out of this article (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html) if you haven't read it.

Yeah, it's good stuff. I've actually been eating at a surplus for a while now, so I'm not just switching it up every couple of weeks like you see on here sometimes. I told myself I'd cut back down when I hit 200 and I was 202 the other day. Back to 197 after dropping the bloat...only looking to get to 190 or so before hitting it hard again and actually training with enough volume to put on some mass. I usually just train for strength gains and enjoyment.

tl;dr

182lb >>> 202
202 >>> 190
190 >>> profit
:D

[mkal]

You might get some use out of this article (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html) if you haven't read it.

Good article, definitely plan on putting it into practice after Smolov. Kinda messed up week 1 pretty bad with a Dreamer Bulk, but I know I need to (and currently am) tighten up my diet, maintain a reasonable bulk and finish this Smolov thing strong as fuark. Fat comes off with time and discipline, just gotta think about that when I see myself in the mirror.

[HunterCML]

Put a few raw eggs in my shake for breakfast since I ran out of enough milk to mix well. I will sacrifice to win.

[NegatronPrime]

Put a few raw eggs in my shake for breakfast since I ran out of enough milk to mix well. I will sacrifice to win.

You disgust me.


Now, tell me what I can't do next.

[Chuck2600]

Put a few raw eggs in my shake for breakfast since I ran out of enough milk to mix well. I will sacrifice to win.

But did you drink it half way through your sleep?

[jammyo40]

But did you drink it half way through your sleep?

He's not that hardcore...

[BBqChicken1]

Thanks for the advice guys. I really won't have long to cut then I'll bite the bullet and eat up. :)


But at what cost?

[Andrew_S]

But at what cost?

Will you sacrifice to bulk?

[Joseph1990]

Put a few raw eggs in my MGN Whey shake for breakfast since I ran out of enough milk to mix well. I will sacrifice to win.

I used to down raw eggs when I was a bro and late for school. brb gotta get breakfast in to keep metabolism going herp derp.

[joelash302]

Weight is going up smooth, just weighed in 191.2. Feeling depressed though, damn heavy deadlift sessions always turn me emo for some reason despite smoking a rep pr.

[ErickStevens]

I'm probably like 220 after yesterday. lulz

[SOJA]

I'm probably like 220 after yesterday. lulz

Prune juice, milk of magnesia and a butt load of coffee, my friend.

[psychodiver9]

I'm probably like 220 after yesterday. lulz

Exactly why I didnt weigh after my cheat. I always think it'll be fun to see how much I gained but it Fuks with my head

[Lvisaa2]

Exactly why I didnt weigh after my cheat. I always think it'll be fun to see how much I gained but it Fuks with my head

We like to call them 'refeeds' and disguise them as useful ;). Yeahh, on that 1500 calorie train today, whootwhoot. Too many reese's eggs and jellybeans ;)

[psychodiver9]

We like to call them 'refeeds' and disguise them as useful ;). Yeahh, on that 1500 calorie train today, whootwhoot. Too many reese's eggs and jellybeans ;)

Ha ha good point. Wow that's low cal

[JasonDB]

Thread is off the first page... mine PR's for the week are 275x3x5 bench, 385x2x5 (only did 4 on 3rd set was getting fatigued) squat, 495x2 deadlift and 255x2x5 GM.

[tswdan]

Here's a little bg for my squat PR last night..

Started lifting seriously (squats/deads/bench) in September of 2011. Worked up to being able to 1rm my squat at 225lbs with good form and below parallel. Pulled a hamstring in December 2011 and couldn't deadlift or squat until the beginning of February this year. Have been trying to squat at least two times a week since then and hit a PR at 325lbs last night.

Also measured my quads against the measurement I took in September... up 2in exactly for each.

[joelash302]

Thread is off the first page... mine PR's for the week are 275x3x5 bench, 385x2x5 (only did 4 on 3rd set was getting fatigued) squat, 495x2 deadlift and 255x2x5 GM.

Very well. This week I did rep PR's at 415x5 dead and 240x4 bench. 275x5 squat will be back to November status (holy crap I backpeddled big time) but squat pr's are finally going to come in.

[JasonDB]

Very well. This week I did rep PR's at 415x5 dead and 240x4 bench. 275x5 squat will be back to November status (holy crap I backpeddled big time) but squat pr's are finally going to come in.

Nice work... keep them coming. PR's are the lifeblood of this crew.

I hit 275x2x5 good mornings today. Saturday going to go for squat and bench PRs.

[Xfaxtor]

Not a single PR was set in the gym today. Starting to really feel the decreased calories on my ability to recover. Time for a deload week..

[joelash302]

Not a single PR was set in the gym today. Starting to really feel the decreased calories on my ability to recover. Time for a deload week..

BW multiplier better? Same weight @ less BW = PR in my mind.

[psychodiver9]

Pulled 335x3 yesterday. Never attempted a triple this heavy before

[Xfaxtor]

BW multiplier better? Same weight @ less BW = PR in my mind.

Meh. might have been, but I doubt it. Complete **** workout as far as chest was conserned. Considering going back lol

[ErickStevens]

PR city this week!

540 x 2 on DLs
415 x 4 on squats
265 x 2 on paused bench

260 was my best attempt at my first meet. lol

[JasonDB]

pr city this week!

540 x 2 on dls
415 x 4 on squats
265 x 2 on paused bench

260 was my best attempt at my first meet. Lol

Gjdm! :D


Here's a little bg for my squat PR last night..

Started lifting seriously (squats/deads/bench) in September of 2011. Worked up to being able to 1rm my squat at 225lbs with good form and below parallel. Pulled a hamstring in December 2011 and couldn't deadlift or squat until the beginning of February this year. Have been trying to squat at least two times a week since then and hit a PR at 325lbs last night.

Also measured my quads against the measurement I took in September... up 2in exactly for each.

100 lbs on your squat in 6 months is something to be proud of.


Pulled 335x3 yesterday. Never attempted a triple this heavy before

Man with a back injury now pulling over 3pps again... don't let anything life throws at you keep you down, bro.

[tswdan]

Pulled 335x3 yesterday. Never attempted a triple this heavy before

Awesome man, way to kill it.


PR city this week!

540 x 2 on DLs
415 x 4 on squats
265 x 2 on paused bench

260 was my best attempt at my first meet. lol

Great job as always E. You're always improving man. Truly an awesome thing to watch.

[ErickStevens]

Welp, I've decided I'm going to compete as a 198er next weekend. I've planning on dropping ~12lbs in 3 days. Wednesday I cut my carbs to 50g and consume nothing but protein shakes, do the same thing on Thursday but cut shakes/water, and Friday is an all day fast. Can't wait. inb4death

[BunkMoreland]

260 bench, huh erick?





lgoXUzIwXk0

[psychodiver9]

Welp, I've decided I'm going to compete as a 198er next weekend. I've planning on dropping ~12lbs in 3 days. Wednesday I cut my carbs to 50g and consume nothing but protein shakes, do the same thing on Thursday but cut shakes/water, and Friday is an all day fast. Can't wait. inb4death

you don't think this will have any impact on your lifts?

[JasonDB]

Welp, I've decided I'm going to compete as a 198er next weekend. I've planning on dropping ~12lbs in 3 days. Wednesday I cut my carbs to 50g and consume nothing but protein shakes, do the same thing on Thursday but cut shakes/water, and Friday is an all day fast. Can't wait. inb4death

Do it phaggot! We expect videos of the meet. :D

[joelash302]

Welp, I've decided I'm going to compete as a 198er next weekend. I've planning on dropping ~12lbs in 3 days. Wednesday I cut my carbs to 50g and consume nothing but protein shakes, do the same thing on Thursday but cut shakes/water, and Friday is an all day fast. Can't wait. inb4death

24 hour weigh in?

[illiniStrive]

Welp, I've decided I'm going to compete as a 198er next weekend. I've planning on dropping ~12lbs in 3 days. Wednesday I cut my carbs to 50g and consume nothing but protein shakes, do the same thing on Thursday but cut shakes/water, and Friday is an all day fast. Can't wait. inb4death

I read a story on EliteFTS about a guy who drops 30lbs 24 hours before a meet.

I think you'll do okay.

[psychodiver9]

I read a story on EliteFTS about a guy who drops 30lbs 24 hours before a meet.

I think you'll do okay.
maybe there is a chance of me doing 184 if I decide to do it in Oct

[ErickStevens]

260 bench, huh erick?


You mad I'm going to bench 3 hundo at this meet?


you don't think this will have any impact on your lifts?

Nah.


Do it phaggot! We expect videos of the meet. :D

There will be videos for sure.


24 hour weigh in?

The night before.


I read a story on EliteFTS about a guy who drops 30lbs 24 hours before a meet.

I think you'll do okay.

Yeah, this is the most I've ever had to cut. Jamie Lewis routinely drops from ~200 to make weight for the 181s and comes within striking distance of world records so I should be okay.


maybe there is a chance of me doing 184 if I decide to do it in Oct

I wouldn't cut weight for your first meet.

[joelash302]

Yea you'll be fine then.

Also u-crew - slop form (hello back arch), but 145x5 ohp no leg drive? Yep, pr.

[JasonDB]

I hit an incline curl PR yesterday... you jelly?

Anywho why did everyone stop posting? Did we all realize how fat the OP is and duck out of the group? :P

[joelash302]

I got 440 deads tonight. Gonna try for a triple, which will be a +2 rep pr. Couldn't even double 450 2 months ago in this new stance.

[JasonDB]

I got 440 deads tonight. Gonna try for a triple, which will be a +2 rep pr. Couldn't even double 450 2 months ago in this new stance.

Nice! :D

[midcoastking33]

Forgot what a pr feels like. pr for me right now stands for please resuscitate

[SoulZeppelin]

Doing a burn in right now because I switched from 5/3/1 to a TM-type setup, so working up from 10% reduction. PRs soon, I hope.

Midcoast - u on dat dere cutting time?

[tswdan]

PRed in the last week:

BB row, 225x6,
db fly 60x6,
squat 325x1,
ohp 145x6,
one arm floor press 90x6x3...

then a bunch of other fluff PRs like lat pull and the ever so popular leg presses and leg extensions.

I have royally wrecked my elbows/shoulders for bench press so I've had to move to dumbbells and being really easy with what I do on ohp. I get some really awesome pain on the inside of my elbows at the distal ends of my biceps, accompanied with shoulder (RC?) swelling.

[joelash302]

PRed in the last week:

BB row, 225x6,
db fly 60x6,
squat 325x1,
ohp 145x6,
one arm floor press 90x6x3...

then a bunch of other fluff PRs like lat pull and the ever so popular leg presses and leg extensions.

I have royally wrecked my elbows/shoulders for bench press so I've had to move to dumbbells and being really easy with what I do on ohp. I get some really awesome pain on the inside of my elbows at the distal ends of my biceps, accompanied with shoulder (RC?) swelling.

PL Bench = win. Also if you aren't doing any bicep work, that causes problems in your elbows if you bench a lots.

[tswdan]

PL Bench = win. Also if you aren't doing any bicep work, that causes problems in your elbows if you bench a lots.

Been doing a PL bench. Nice tight arch, heels flat (if I have a meet my fed requires it), lats tucked, etc. I ran Smolov Jr awhile back with wider grip and it wrecked my shoulders pretty good. Took off of bench for awhile, and came back and had to go really close grip.

I'm one of those lifters that have a very short/shallow torso and very long limbs. My arms extend so far back behind me to get the bar to touch my chest. That's what has caused a lot of issues with heavier weights.

I am doing extra bicep work. A PhysTher suggested possible issues (damage) with the nerves in my arms. Not so sure how I feel about that. Talked to another PhysTer and they said possibly more along the lines of nerve entrapment when I bench not any sort of damage in the arms.

I can bench with DBs just fine and I'm only getting the issues when I bb bench.

[XinApoK]

once i hit my bulking spree ill be sure to fill out an application... :D

[snrygo]

Finally busted my plateau on Friday and hit 210x5x3 on squats. Going fr 215x5x3 today.


I will do this

[joelash302]

Been doing a PL bench. Nice tight arch, heels flat (if I have a meet my fed requires it), lats tucked, etc. I ran Smolov Jr awhile back with wider grip and it wrecked my shoulders pretty good. Took off of bench for awhile, and came back and had to go really close grip.

I'm one of those lifters that have a very short/shallow torso and very long limbs. My arms extend so far back behind me to get the bar to touch my chest. That's what has caused a lot of issues with heavier weights.

I am doing extra bicep work. A PhysTher suggested possible issues (damage) with the nerves in my arms. Not so sure how I feel about that. Talked to another PhysTer and they said possibly more along the lines of nerve entrapment when I bench not any sort of damage in the arms.

I can bench with DBs just fine and I'm only getting the issues when I bb bench.

I hear that. I have a 74" wing span. If you aren't going to PL, I'd just kill the move entirely broheim.

[Andrew_S]

Wingspan...I was just thinking/talking about that and don't know how big a difference is a lot. 72 inches tall, 77 inch wingspan. Someone commented on my db bench vid and asked if I had abnormally long arms...got me curious.

[snrygo]

i did it

[SoulZeppelin]

Wingspan...I was just thinking/talking about that and don't know how big a difference is a lot. 72 inches tall, 77 inch wingspan. Someone commented on my db bench vid and asked if I had abnormally long arms...got me curious.

76" tall, 79" wingspan here. Iknowthatfeelbro. Though apparently my difference is less than yours.


i did it

w00t! Nice PR.

[FunkymonkAW]

i did it

Next stop 220?

[greekmanman]

PR'ing every week here. feelsgoodman

[SOJA]

PR'ing every week here. feelsgoodman

GTFO Phaggot. You're aesthetic by birth.

[Ion26]

Hit 185x10 on squats.

[snrygo]

Next stop 220?that would be friday!


PR'ing every week here. feelsgoodman
PRin erry sesh again! feelsevenbetterman :p ;)

[sawoobley]

GTFO Phaggot. You're aesthetic by birth.

Like a beautiful girl who hangs out with all the fat chicks. Not cool Greekmanman. We don't want to be your fat chicks...:p

[greekmanman]

GTFO Phaggot. You're aesthetic by birth. ;)


Like a beautiful girl who hangs out with all the fat chicks. Not cool Greekmanman. We don't want to be your fat chicks...:p lol Why can't I share my progress as well sirs?

I wasn't always in shape. brb posting my skinny phaggot pics and skinny fat pics lolz

[MarkVI]

It's funny, the less I care about aesthetic, the more aesthetic I get. Winning?

[SOJA]

It's funny, the less I care about aesthetic, the more aesthetic I get. Winning?

I laughed. I needed that. Thank you!

[necon76]

Just pulled 320 for 7 for a PR. I know it's small time compared to most of you guys, but I've only been DL'ing for 15 weeks.

Had previously been scared to do them due to a lower disc herniation. Funny thing is my back currently feels better than ever. Should have started years ago.

Living & learning.

[SOJA]

Just pulled 320 for 7 for a PR. I know it's small time compared to most of you guys, but I've only been DL'ing for 15 weeks.

Had previously been scared to do them due to a lower disc herniation. Funny thing is my back currently feels better than ever. Should have started years ago.

Living & learning.

15 weeks and already at 320 lb and at 165 lb?

Brb, killing myself.

[mike201011]

DL'd 315x3 the other day. PR for me anyway :D


Im also squatting over 210 for sets now. Something that was alien to me a few months ago. Feelsgoodman.

[MarkVI]

I laughed. I needed that. Thank you!

:(.....my mom says I'm aesthetic.

[necon76]

15 weeks and already at 320 lb and at 165 lb?

Brb, killing myself.

Yeah but when I was your age, I didn't even know what a deadlift was.


And thanks. I think.


DL'd 315x3 the other day. PR for me anyway :D


Im also squatting over 210 for sets now. Something that was alien to me a few months ago. Feelsgoodman.


Awesome work for 16 man. Just imagine where you could be at 21!

[SOJA]

How old are you? I thought you were younger than me.

[liammccarthy]

How old are you? I thought you were younger than me.

35-36

[SOJA]

In that case I still want to kill myself. Very short amount of time to get there. Good job, Bruce! Now if I can milk my progression more and get to 500 by August, I'll run naked through a tiger's pen. not srs.

[JasonDB]

CGBP 245x4 today. :D

[necon76]

How old are you? I thought you were younger than me.

Nope. I'm just highly immature.


In that case I still want to kill myself. Very short amount of time to get there. Good job, Bruce! Now if I can milk my progression more and get to 500 by August, I'll run naked through a tiger's pen. not srs.

in4vids. (Of the tiger run, not of you killing yourself).

[joelash302]

Wingspan...I was just thinking/talking about that and don't know how big a difference is a lot. 72 inches tall, 77 inch wingspan. Someone commented on my db bench vid and asked if I had abnormally long arms...got me curious.

Wow. You could train to be an incredible rock climber and swimmer. Ape index is usually 1.0 or 0 (height = wingspan). Even as low as +2 you can see someone having longer arms. You have a higher index than michael phelps, his is 1.05.

[Andrew_S]

Wow. You could train to be an incredible rock climber and swimmer. Ape index is usually 1.0 or 0 (height = wingspan). Even as low as +2 you can see someone having longer arms. You have a higher index than michael phelps, his is 1.05.

That sounds dumb, LOL. I've never even thought to myself "hmm, my arms are long". I'd say I'm doing it wrong if it wasn't so simple. Now I'm going to think about it every time I touch something. :p

[phal]

My friend who's like 5'5 or 5'6 has a 74 inch wingspan lol, pretty insane.

[ParsonBrown]

Question for you guys...I'm doing 5/3/1 right now and loving it. I don't feel anywhere close to hitting a ceiling with it yet. I'm already in PR territory for OHP and DL...will be there with squat this next cycle.


Question is on my bench. No doubt I'm making progress, but I want to try something for a few weeks to push the envelope a bit. I want to run two cycles in the time it takes to do one. I currently do 5/3/1 for OHP on Monday and Thursday is my bench day. I'm doing bench for my accessory work on monday with higher reps and its definitely helping. But I want to try and do 5/3/1 for bench on OHP day as well as my normal bench day. Honestly my bench is my most pathetic lift, but it is progressing. I just feel like I have a bit more in the tank and with my bench being so low (honestly still linear progression territory IMO) I can give this a whirl.

Is this a bad idea...or nothing ventured nothing gained?

[joelash302]

My friend who's like 5'5 or 5'6 has a 74 inch wingspan lol, pretty insane.

Guy could probably be an elite deadlifter in like 8 weeks of training.


Question for you guys...I'm doing 5/3/1 right now and loving it. I don't feel anywhere close to hitting a ceiling with it yet. I'm already in PR territory for OHP and DL...will be there with squat this next cycle.


Question is on my bench. No doubt I'm making progress, but I want to try something for a few weeks to push the envelope a bit. I want to run two cycles in the time it takes to do one. I currently do 5/3/1 for OHP on Monday and Thursday is my bench day. I'm doing bench for my accessory work on monday with higher reps and its definitely helping. But I want to try and do 5/3/1 for bench on OHP day as well as my normal bench day. Honestly my bench is my most pathetic lift, but it is progressing. I just feel like I have a bit more in the tank and with my bench being so low (honestly still linear progression territory IMO) I can give this a whirl.

Is this a bad idea...or nothing ventured nothing gained?

You don't have to follow a single program for all your lifts. You could just as easily do madcow's for your bench and 5/3/1 for squat/dead. You should just be careful about stacking similar lifts, for example don't do coan/phillipi deadlift with smolov squat. As that would be madness, just madness.

[mike201011]

Awesome work for 16 man. Just imagine where you could be at 21!




Thanks man :D

[phal]

He does powerlifting and posts here (mainly my log) - about my weight and I think his best in gym lift is 545 but he will pull 565+ really soon.

[ParsonBrown]

You don't have to follow a single program for all your lifts. You could just as easily do madcow's for your bench and 5/3/1 for squat/dead. You should just be careful about stacking similar lifts, for example don't do coan/phillipi deadlift with smolov squat. As that would be madness, just madness.

Thanks. That sounds like a good idea. For some reason I struggle with routine multi-tasking, but this is manageable.

[ErickStevens]

I am big on program mash-ups. I've done Sheiko 32 + Smolov Jr. in the past.

I'm doing Smolov + LIME Bench then following it up with C/P + LIME Bench + Various Sheiko's squatting. All of this will have a little bit of RPE used for the accessory stuff.

[mynameisuntz]

I am big on program mash-ups. I'm doing Smolov + LIME Bench then following it up with C/P + LIME Bench + Various Sheiko's squatting.

Do you put the lime in the Coke, you nut?

[greekmanman]

Just PR'ed on nearly every set..................WTF

Must be celltech in dat dere water supply lolz

[Joseph1990]

In on Unasesthetics crew. 25% BF come @ me.

[greekmanman]

In on Unasesthetics crew. 25% BF come @ me.25%....you been fulking brah?

[Joseph1990]

25%....you been fulking brah?

lol I'm not 25% yet. After 12-15 months I should be.

[LegosInMyEgos]

still cutting, problem?

http://oi41.tinypic.com/wva3rm.jpg

[Joseph1990]

still cutting, problem?

[img]http://oi41.tinypic.com/wva3rm.jpg[img]

Traps of peace...

[LegosInMyEgos]

Traps of peace...

they make everything else look small(er)

[SOJA]

they make everything else look small(er)

Be happy our dicks don't grow near our necks.

[psychodiver9]

lol I'm not 25% yet. After 12-15 months I should be.

Why?

[ErickStevens]

11lbs to go. Liquid diet starts today. inb4 death

[JasonDB]

11lbs to go. Liquid diet starts today. inb4 death

Good luck Erick!

[Joseph1990]

Why?

More size, more strength, more hypertrophy. Being lean for an entire year was cool time to improve myself and not spin my wheels.

[psychodiver9]

More size, more strength, more hypertrophy. Being lean for an entire year was cool time to improve myself and not spin my wheels.

25% seems excessive to me

[Joseph1990]

25% seems excessive to me

Really? Even over 15 months of weight gain?

[Lvisaa2]

11lbs to go. Liquid diet starts today. inb4 death

Good luck, sir. It sucks, but it'll be worth it. Are you allowed Xantham? If so, it is a godsend, but get used to chewing your shakes instead of drinking them.

[snrygo]

Good luck, sir. It sucks, but it'll be worth it. Are you allowed Xantham? If so, it is a godsend, but get used to chewing your shakes instead of drinking them.i would imagine it would bloat him up :o does that to me

[psychodiver9]

Really? Even over 15 months of weight gain?

I'm just not sure why anyone would intentionally go to that high a bf

[JasonDB]

I'm just not sure why anyone would intentionally go to that high a bf

So as to not look like a phaggot with abs, Abroham Lincoln. :P

[Andrew_S]

I'm just not sure why anyone would intentionally go to that high a bf

Gotta agree with this. I let myself get that big and it took way too long to cut down. Can still be aggressive on a bulk without getting to blob status. 25% BF isn't too great on the old health.

[joelash302]

Tonight is bench. Want 255x3 all paused. Going to really take my time and set up well, if I hit it then immabe a happy person.

[JasonDB]

Went into the gym today for some pressing practice on my one day off from training this week (lulz) after after doing some pause bench I figured I might as well go for a CGBP set or two... and got 245x5 as a new CGBP PR (not bad as I got 245x4 yesterday).

[Andrew_S]

Tonight is bench. Want 255x3 all paused. Going to really take my time and set up well, if I hit it then immabe a happy person.

Slow down, will ya? A competition is only fun if it's close...nobody likes a blowout. :D

[ErickStevens]

Really? Even over 15 months of weight gain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns


Good luck, sir. It sucks, but it'll be worth it. Are you allowed Xantham? If so, it is a godsend, but get used to chewing your shakes instead of drinking them.

Casein is thick enough. I'm supplementing with Psyllium Husk and ExLax. ;)

[joelash302]

Slow down, will ya? A competition is only fun if it's close...nobody likes a blowout. :D

I'm far enough behind on squat that I have to show up with something on my plate lolz. Deads are super close too... I don't like that. Might have to go +15 on next cycle to assert authoritaaah.



Casein is thick enough. I'm supplementing with Psyllium Husk and ExLax. ;)

Might want to supplement with these too-

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/77621/300.jpg

[Andrew_S]

I'm telling you...I fully intend on only sumo deadlifting once a month during PHAT (Ahhh, RDL, so nice) and just one day walking in and pulling 500. Well...I don't have that many plates, so I'll just rep out the previous limit. It'll be funny. Bench is hard to progress on. May have to shove a board under my shirt and cheat on that one. Maybe 2 boards.

[tswdan]

Set a couple of PRs this morning..

DL: 415x1 -- +10lb PR over 2 wks ago
Box Squat (just at parallel): 300x6 -- +25lb PR over 2wks ago

Puts me at a 975lb (415/325/235) total right now. Still making my way to 1k and trying to make up for my injuries keeping me from my bench through squat/dead.

Weight was up this morning to. Came in at 178lbs before heading off to the gym. (cough) I was 155lbs in February.

[joelash302]

I'm telling you...I fully intend on only sumo deadlifting once a month during PHAT (Ahhh, RDL, so nice) and just one day walking in and pulling 500. Well...I don't have that many plates, so I'll just rep out the previous limit. It'll be funny. Bench is hard to progress on. May have to shove a board under my shirt and cheat on that one. Maybe 2 boards.

My plan is to get my arch harder and then use a 2 board so I just have to unrack it and call it a PR. I'm just happy that my triples are projecting back over an 1100 total. Which means end of summer I should be pushing over 1200. Been eating like a beast and now I'm hovering around 192, gotta up the cardio soon or the wife is gonna be not thrilled at me buying new fat clothes haha.

[JasonDB]

My plan is to get my arch harder and then use a 2 board so I just have to unrack it and call it a PR. I'm just happy that my triples are projecting back over an 1100 total. Which means end of summer I should be pushing over 1200. Been eating like a beast and now I'm hovering around 192, gotta up the cardio soon or the wife is gonna be not thrilled at me buying new fat clothes haha.

My wife likes me fat... she has said if I get so lean I have deep abs she is afraid she might stop eating or go vegan again so that she gets skinny and doesn't have to feel insecure. :P

[Andrew_S]

My plan is to get my arch harder and then use a 2 board so I just have to unrack it and call it a PR. I'm just happy that my triples are projecting back over an 1100 total. Which means end of summer I should be pushing over 1200. Been eating like a beast and now I'm hovering around 192, gotta up the cardio soon or the wife is gonna be not thrilled at me buying new fat clothes haha.

I'm down a few pounds. Looking to get to 190 or so and hopefully get stronger on everything. Pressing while cutting is always iffy, but I don't think I'll have to worry about that until/if I get "lean". 1200 is pretty awesome, though! I'd need serious squat and bench improvement for that to happen, but it is a little 2012 goal I have on a sticky note in the lifting area. :D

[ko300zx]

My plan is to get my arch harder and then use a 2 board so I just have to unrack it and call it a PR. I'm just happy that my triples are projecting back over an 1100 total. Which means end of summer I should be pushing over 1200. Been eating like a beast and now I'm hovering around 192, gotta up the cardio soon or the wife is gonna be not thrilled at me buying new fat clothes haha.

Gone from medium to large to xtra large since the middle of 2010. Walletfeelsemptyman.jpg

[HunterCML]

11lbs to go. Liquid diet starts today. inb4 death

Good luck, Eric. Do work man.

Inb4 1,400 meet total. Do it.

[AdamWW]

25% seems excessive to me

Way too much..

I'd hesitate to go over about 18% maximum...

[Lvisaa2]

Way too much..

I'd hesitate to go over about 18% maximum...

http://forumuploads.animutationportal.com/317_4605c876e03a4.jpg

[illiniStrive]

Wouldn't the mirror be a better guide than an arbitrary number? J/w.

[snrygo]

Wouldn't the mirror be a better guide than an arbitrary number? J/w.

This.



Dat mirror test>any bf scale

[AdamWW]

This.



Dat mirror test>any bf scale

True, but I don't think anyone is going to be in their best health at 25%

[illiniStrive]

True, but I don't think anyone is going to be in their best health at 25%

what's health got to do with it. this is a bodybuilding forum





:rolleyes:

[snrygo]

True, but I don't think anyone is going to be in their best health at 25%thats not the point i was trying to make


similarly to how you responded to my comment in your log, i would ask you not to put words in to my mouth

[AdamWW]

thats not the point i was trying to make


similarly to how you responded to my comment in your log, i would ask you not to put words in to my mouth

I didn't put words in your mouth and the comments in my log are completely unrelated and unsuitable for comparison

[joelash302]

No being bitchy in the u-crew thread. This thread is about PR's, not the two skinniest people in the thread pissing around about 25% BF being unhealthy. Get a PR and come back.

On that note, 255x2 went up faster than 250x2 did at the end of last microcyle. Come at me bench gains.

[snrygo]

10lb PR on deads from last week

285

[joelash302]

10lb PR on deads from last week

285

2xBW deadlift unlocked? f yea man.

[snrygo]

2xBW deadlift unlocked? f yea man.

Thanks but this is less impressive than whm I was like 8-10lbs lighter end of feb when I pulled 280

Only in te lat week have I started making pulling progress again. Thank you Mr Stevens

[ErickStevens]

Thanks but this is less impressive than whm I was like 8-10lbs lighter end of feb when I pulled 280

Only in te lat week have I started making pulling progress again. Thank you Mr Stevens

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/yes/b9vfl4b63im3ajczb5y6Qle8o1_250.gif

[illiniStrive]

I never got a Tina Fey gif when I deadlifted 285

http://i41.tinypic.com/fucj8h.jpg

[snrygo]

@E, I did however slightly modify it so that i just jump straight to the amrap set since I find I don't have enough juice left in me for the triple and te rest of my WO

[SOJA]

Oh so it wasn't a 1 RM. Either way good job. :D

[snrygo]

Oh so it wasn't a 1 RM. Either way good job. :D

I would say that's a 1rm for today haha.


Basically it's a ramp up to a new 1rm then you rest, then drop 15% off the bar and do amrap. Thats what I'm doing.


What erick said was that^^ but with a triple in the middle of the two sets with 7.5% less weight than the 1Rm

[necon76]

I never got a Tina Fey gif when I deadlifted 285




Here you go.


http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/4/3/2/1/4/5/1/orig-14321451.jpg

[SOJA]

I would say that's a 1rm for today haha.


Basically it's a ramp up to a new 1rm then you rest, then drop 15% off the bar and do amrap. Thats what I'm doing.


What erick said was that^^ but with a triple in the middle of the two sets with 7.5% less weight than the 1Rm

Oh that. He told me to do the same and I thought he was on that derp mode. But I get the feeling he gave you something else to do.

[snrygo]

Oh that. He told me to do the same and I thought he was on that derp mode. But I get the feeling he gave you something else to do.

Yeah, his rpt thingay.


Basically if I was shooting for 95kg (this will make numbers easy)

Ramp up
95x1
Felt like you have another 5kg in you
100x1
You get it and don't think you could do more
92.5x3
85xAMRAP

[SOJA]

Yeah, his rpt thingay.


Basically if I was shooting for 95kg (this will make numbers easy)

Ramp up
95x1
Felt like you have another 5kg in you
100x1
You get it and don't think you could do more
92.5x3
85xAMRAP

And then you ramp up in the same session or just the next? TBH, I'm starting to think the deadlift and other compound lifts can be manipulated using fight or flight dynamics. Just get something going in you and unleash the momentary power your body is capable of. I'm thinking I could pull a Frank Yang at my gym.

[snrygo]

And then you ramp up in the same session or just the next? TBH, I'm starting to think the deadlift and other compound lifts can be manipulated using fight or flight dynamics. Just get something going in you and unleash the momentary power your body is capable of. I'm thinking I could pull a Frank Yang at my gym.
The next DL session, you would add 5-10lb to the pull and do the same thing

[SOJA]

The next DL session, you would add 5-10lb to the pull and do the same thing

So it just works on linear progression and squeezing out any strength that's untapped or being developed in the background.

[snrygo]

So it just works on linear progression and squeezing out any strength that's untapped or being developed in the background.
Quasi linear, I would say. Because you push yourself to a 1rm (whether that is 5,10, or 15lbs more than the last session) every session at potentially varying increments (depending on how one feels on the day of)

[JasonDB]

Tried conventional again today on deadlift, felt much lighter and got a PR.

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[ParsonBrown]

Got a huge monkey off my back and finally got a BP PR I am pround of....finally hit the magical 225! My bench has gone slower than every other lift, but this was a huge mental barrier for me.

[JasonDB]

Got a huge monkey off my back and finally got a BP PR I am pround of....finally hit the magical 225! My bench has gone slower than every other lift, but this was a huge mental barrier for me.

Adding a new pps (225, 315, 405 etc) on any main lift is always gives a sense of achievement. :D GJDM!

[SOJA]

Jason, I'm just going to be frank with you here. Every time you rep on the bench, squat or deadlift, you make a groaning sound as if you just ejaculated.

[JasonDB]

Jason, I'm just going to be frank with you here. Every time you rep on the bench, squat or deadlift, you make a groaning sound as if you just ejaculated.

My wife said the same thing. (srs)

It is how I roll, you jelly brah?

Edit: I just showed my wife this and she is in tears laughing.

[SOJA]

Hai Jason's wife.

[snrygo]

15lbs in 3 sessions on my squat.


2pps for reps and sets on monday

[necon76]

15lbs in 3 sessions on my squat.


2pps for reps and sets on monday


Yeah budday!

[SimonThePieman]

Just hit 195kg PR on deads. Would have done 200, but lost a chunk of skin in the lift and didn't want completely **** my Gand for the rest of the work out

[snrygo]

Just hit 195kg PR on deads. Would have done 200, but lost a chunk of skin in the lift and didn't want completely **** my Gand for the rest of the work out
So u were unwilling to sacrifice to win?




Jk, awesome pull!

[mkal]

Totally drunk right noww, 24th birthday on Sunday (don't wnat a hangover come Monday morning at work) ... final 2 days of Smolov Saturday/Sunday ... watchin the new Jim Gaffigan skit ($5 online), hilarious, had a good long bit about fitness for about 15 minutes. Gonna sober up in the morning and SFW all weekend! This p[ost has been brought to you by Captain Morgan.

[DTrulez616]

I will soon be joining this crew.

[joelash302]

Totally drunk right noww, 24th birthday on Sunday (don't wnat a hangover come Monday morning at work) ... final 2 days of Smolov Saturday/Sunday ... watchin the new Jim Gaffigan skit ($5 online), hilarious, had a good long bit about fitness for about 15 minutes. Gonna sober up in the morning and SFW all weekend! This p[ost has been brought to you by Captain Morgan.

Late happy b-day bro. Jim Gaffigan is one hilarious albino.

REP PR - 405x8 deadlift. On hex plates none the less. I hurt.

[snrygo]

2pps is now mybitch

[greekmanman]

PR'ed on the db incline(95 x6,5,5)and db shoulder press(80x6,5,4). Felt goodman.

[MarkVI]

2pps is now mybitch
Bench right?

PR'ed on the db incline(95 x6,5,5)and db shoulder press(80x6,5,4). Felt goodman.

Solid work bro! that's some great pressing.

[greekmanman]

Bench right?


Solid work bro! that's some great pressing.Thanks brah.

Anyone have a similar problem on incline? The only bench my gym has(LA Fitness) only goes to about a 45 degree angle. I would have preferred a much smaller angle tbh.

[ErickStevens]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19290540.jpg

[peanut-butter]

Cool. I'm so fuking weak now and constantly feel like ****.

Haven't squatted in 4 months and every time I've tried I have barely been able to even rep 2 fuking plates. Can't remember the last time I even benched over 140 lb and yesterday I missed a 400lb DL from a 4" deficit. Fuk this ****.

Hating life and going to commit /10

[JasonDB]

Knocked out a 3x5 with 245 on the CGBP... if only my wide grip went up in proportion to my close grip. :P

[psychodiver9]

Cool. I'm so fuking weak now and constantly feel like ****.

Haven't squatted in 4 months and every time I've tried I have barely been able to even rep 2 fuking plates. Can't remember the last time I even benched over 140 lb and yesterday I missed a 400lb DL from a 4" deficit. Fuk this ****.

Hating life and going to commit /10

i know this feel. Back injury + cutting feels like I'll never pr again

[peanut-butter]

i know this feel. Back injury + cutting feels like I'll never pr again

When I'm shredded and ready to start lifting some heavy mother fuking weights. I want to fuk **** up.

Going to kill it in the gym. Gonna be squatting like 6 days per week, oly style. If some little 14 year old Chinese girl can do it, I -a young Australian, peanut butter enthusiast can too!

Only problem is a I have a huge procrastination problem. Brb, going to conquer the world....but I'll get around to it tomorrow.

[snrygo]

Knocked out a 3x5 with 245 on the CGBP... if only my wide grip went up in proportion to my close grip. :P
Jason, your close grip numbers are just plain stupid. Why aren't you benching 4 plates yet, again?

[snrygo]

Bench right?.http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss247/jason_is_wanted/laughing.gif



funny man

[JasonDB]

Jason, your close grip numbers are just plain stupid. Why aren't you benching 4 plates yet, again?

Poor technique and unlearning how I used to bench from years ago. Also when I was benching 4pps, I was close gripping 345+ for reps also.... and reverse gripped 4pps too. My wide, close and reverse tend to be fairly close to each other historically.

[Chuck2600]

Whops, wrong thread

[MaoriNate]

Hmmm this thread suits my needs.

Subbed.

[tswdan]

Failed my first PR attempt in weeks on squat. 335x0

Now I'm excited.

[mkal]

[img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19290540.jpg[/mg]

I hope you're ready for a huge appetite increase. Going to test my squat on Thursday now that I finished the base meso. Use knee sleeves if you have them, and prepare to hate yourself, ha ha.

[ErickStevens]

345 x 9 for four sets. My body was not ready. I felt like I was doing Prowler Sprints every set.

[snrygo]

Shmolov already?

[JasonDB]

345 x 9 for four sets. My body was not ready. I felt like I was doing Prowler Sprints every set.

I wish I had a prowler... that is the ultimate piece of cardio equipment.

[ErickStevens]

Shmolov already?

Why wait?

[snrygo]

Why wait?

True. I thought you'd wait a bit after your meet.




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