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matrix563
02-29-2012, 08:06 PM
whats a good one? the titan at new york barbell looks good but i am looking for other options. i don't need a full sized machine, something titan sized is enough.

RBLOCK
02-29-2012, 08:28 PM
You can get by with captains of crush hand grippers but check out the Sorinex G Rex or EliteFTS grippers if you have a bigger budget for one. Lots of guys on the forum have had poor experiences with NYBB.

gp92089
02-29-2012, 08:36 PM
http://www.myspace.com/pitbullstrongmanequipment/photos/30103556#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A30103556%7D

$135 shipped

matrix563
02-29-2012, 08:41 PM
i didn't necessarily want nybb just other options cause i do want something besides them. how is this? http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=114&pid=251

i don't want to pay 399 for the sorinex one :p

matrix563
02-29-2012, 08:43 PM
http://www.myspace.com/pitbullstrongmanequipment/photos/30103556#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A30103556%7D

$135 shipped

where can i get this from? i hope that includes painting heh. would leave you both rep but i gotta spread it around again lol

gp92089
02-29-2012, 08:52 PM
Just call Alan up, I ended up getting from him the 10 inch strongman log about 6 months ago and good quality for a great price. Haha yea it includes painting if you order please do a review I am interested in getting one.

Info
Pitbull Strongman Equipment I can be contacted for ordering information at:
pitbullk9@yahoo.com Or 785-630-0887

KBKB
02-29-2012, 08:53 PM
There's a review thread for the Robert Baraban adjustable grippers (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133054843). If you're into gripper training, that looks like a good one. I have a bunch of the CoC grippers. I occasionally use them to see where my grip is at, but I don't do regular training with them. I've been able to close the #2.5 with either hand.

I used to be into rock climbing. Gripper work didn't help that much with being able to hang onto the climbing holds. The thing that helped most for climbing was... climbing. I haven't been climbing recently, but I'd like to keep my grip strong in case I restart, so here's some of the things that I've been doing...

Rows with fat grip dumbbells. See my discussion of Ironmaster Fat Grip adapters (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140687791&p=800621811&viewfull=1#post800621811). I also compare them to Fat Gripz.

I also use these dumbbells or kettlebells (which have a 1.5" diameter grip) for farmer's carries. I like it when the handle is big enough that I can't get my thumb and fingers to touch because it works the grip a lot more. Farmer's carries are awesome for working the grip, especially with larger diameter handles.

I recently got some pinch blocks from Rogue (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=142734691). I'll do static holds with these and use them for farmer's carries too.

I find that slow movements with 5lb Indian clubs work the grip. This is basically leverage work.

Long kettlebell swing sessions work the grip too. There have been a few times when I finished a 10 minute swing session (30 seconds on and 30 seconds off, repeated 10 times) where my forearms felt just as fried as when I got back from a good night of gym climbing.

Dexterity Ball Training (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133799171). One anecdote from that thread is that I was sick for a couple of weeks and did almost no exercise aside from dexterity ball work. When I went back to the climbing gym after getting over my illness, my forearm strength was just as good, if not better than prior to having gotten sick.

I also have a climber's hangboard (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133330233&p=666035221&viewfull=1#post666035221). I've been using the big grips for doing pull ups; I really ought to be using the other holds too. Truth be told though, I haven't been using it much unless I'm goofing around.

matrix563
02-29-2012, 09:02 PM
i do fatgripz for pullups and for benching but i'd like sonething additional. which do you think is best kbkb? get that one from pitbull? i used one similar as far as closing 2 bars at ndmike's place so i am interested in getting something like that

i am up to about 6 pullups with a short break to do 6 more with the fat gripz. i could barely hang on for more than 1 or 2 with the changed grip. not that i can't do more pullups the grip was just killer and i couldn't hang on lol. i want to build my grip up to about 10-15 pullups in a row :).

KBKB
02-29-2012, 09:29 PM
i do fatgripz for pullups and for benching but i'd like sonething additional. which do you think is best kbkb? get that one from pitbull? i used one similar as far as closing 2 bars at ndmike's place so i am interested in getting something like that

I've never used a machine like that, but John Brookfield discusses them in Mastery of Hand Strength (http://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Hand-Strength-John-Brookfield/dp/092688803X). (They're both worth reading, but I like his other book, The Grip Master's Manual (http://www.amazon.com/Grip-Masters-Manual-John-Brookfield/dp/0926888110) better.) Of the Grip Machine, he says "Another way to build a superb crushing grip is with the grip machine." He then provides a thumbnail sketch of how to build one yourself.

A good resource to look at before making your purchase is GripFAQ.com (http://www.gripfaq.com/).

Another good site is GripBoard.com (http://www.gripboard.com/), but you'll need to register to look at the forums. If you sign up though, you can ask folks there about what they think of such machines.

KBKB
02-29-2012, 09:33 PM
i am up to about 6 pullups with a short break to do 6 more with the fat gripz. i could barely hang on for more than 1 or 2 with the changed grip. not that i can't do more pullups the grip was just killer and i couldn't hang on lol. i want to build my grip up to about 10-15 pullups in a row :).

What's the biggest pair of dumbbells that you have? Whatever it is, put your Fat Gripz on them and do some farmer's carries. Walk (back and forth if you need to) with them until your grip is about to fail. Then set them down, rest for a bit and do that again two or three more times. It's a great grip workout. It's a good conditioning workout too.

KBKB
02-29-2012, 10:16 PM
Hey, check this out. It's a Fat Gripz on a 20kg kettlebell. It ends up being 2.83 inches wide. I was actually able to do a few swings with it. Farmer's Carries or static holds would be fine too.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4192361&d=1330582449

(I know this didn't help answer your question about that grip machine, but I still think it's pretty cool.)

matrix563
02-29-2012, 10:33 PM
i have the 75 pound ironmaster dumbbells. i haven't done much work at that weight really but i have moved the 80 pound olympic dumbbells around they are pretty heavy. i can at least pick it up and carry it my side for a farmers walk lol ;). thats pretty much all the work i have done at that heavy a weight :)

ProtienandIron
03-01-2012, 12:51 PM
Personally I would rather just have a good selection of grippers. Depending on your goals it might be worth working in some thick bar training, and pinch grip work.

If you are set of getting a grip machine then I would recomend a good quality guilotine style machine, or even check out David Hornes vulcan gripper.

KBKB
03-01-2012, 01:51 PM
Personally I would rather just have a good selection of grippers.
I've tried gripper training. While they do make the forearms stronger up to a point, they never trained my grip very well for things that I actually cared about. That's why I'm not that enthusiastic about the grip machine. But, as I said before, I've never tried one, so I can't say for certain that it'll be ineffective.

ProtienandIron
03-01-2012, 02:02 PM
^^What are you after from your grip training? I've had good success from gripper training in the past, came extreemly close to closing the #3 but what works for one....

I used to have a high end grip machine (can't remember the name now) but it did nothing for me, but as far as machines go I don't think you can go wrong with a guilotine style.

Cleveland33
03-01-2012, 02:25 PM
I don't know if this link will take you to the specific post or not, but Armbender has posted this several times and it covers quite a bit:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5442323&p=815585931&viewfull=1#post815585931

KBKB
03-01-2012, 02:29 PM
^^What are you after from your grip training? I've had good success from gripper training in the past, came extreemly close to closing the #3 but what works for one....

You're undoubtedly right - it depends upon your goals. I wanted a strong grip for rock climbing. Gripper training didn't help much for that. That said, I didn't know about Captain of Crush grippers at the time. I just got the heaviest ones I could find at various sporting good stores.

ProtienandIron
03-01-2012, 02:34 PM
Have you ever tried the Metolious rock rings? They are a bit like a hangboard but you can hitch them up over a pullup bar. I got great results from these when I used to do a bit of bouldering in the past.

The good thing about grippers is that they are a bit of a catch-all for strong hands if you without being to specific. Were the grippers you bought along the same lines as the CoCs (heavy duty)?

KBKB
03-01-2012, 03:00 PM
Have you ever tried the Metolious rock rings? They are a bit like a hangboard but you can hitch them up over a pullup bar. I got great results from these when I used to do a bit of bouldering in the past.

I've never tried the Rock Rings. Here's what I have:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3275841&d=1303169021

That's a Metolius Project Training Board (http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/project-board.html) and above it a So Ill Iron Palm (http://www.soillholds.com/iron-palm-moderate) board. (I thought I had the Metolius Simulator board, but I see now that I don't.)

I can campus up from the two big holds on the lower board to the lower (wide) pinch grip on the Iron Palm board and then do a pull up. Hanging on to the slopers on top of the Iron Palm board is hard. I can barely hang on, but not do a pull up, at least not the last time I checked.


The good thing about grippers is that they are a bit of a catch-all for strong hands if you without being to specific. Were the grippers you bought along the same lines as the CoCs (heavy duty)?

I had a number of them over the years. The heaviest of them was probably comparable to the CoC Sport or the CoC Trainer. I remember I had some red-handled ones that I really liked, but the steel spring broke.

I have most of the CoC grippers now up to the #3. (I just noticed that there's a 0.5 that I don't have. I won't bother getting it.) I can close the #2.5 with either hand, but not the #3.

ProtienandIron
03-01-2012, 03:12 PM
NIIICE. I really like the look of that top one. Sounds like you have a good grip routine going on.

John Hicks
03-07-2012, 09:38 PM
whats a good one? the titan at new york barbell looks good but i am looking for other options. i don't need a full sized machine, something titan sized is enough.IMO, get the materials and build it yourself. Just get a good iron bar cheap and find someone who can weld it up for you. The basic plate-loaded grip machine is great for building a powerful crushing grip.

donforeman
03-07-2012, 09:45 PM
http://www.ivankobarbell.com/products/sg/

ProtienandIron
03-08-2012, 01:05 AM
IMO, get the materials and build it yourself. Just get a good iron bar cheap and find someone who can weld it up for you. The basic plate-loaded grip machine is great for building a powerful crushing grip.

Listen to this guy, he is a grip legend.

Sybersnott, have you closed that number 4 yet?

matrix563
07-23-2012, 01:02 PM
http://www.myspace.com/pitbullstrongmanequipment/photos/30103556#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A30103556%7D

$135 shipped

so i have the opportunity to get a nybb one for 60. should i do that or is the myspace one far superior? i kinda like that one better but i don't know! does the myspace one take 45's? i can't tell

matrix563
04-22-2013, 07:58 AM
ok for those who have tried a grip machine like pittbulls or the new york barbells one,

how does one of these compare?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-Tension-Vice-Hand-Gripper-Heavy-Duty-Grips-/160360819262?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25563fea3e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140703466793?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

they look like the same thing, just one is silver the other black.