Letter from ex-slave to old master.

[mixbwoy]

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/01/to-my-old-master.html

This is brilliant.

[whatevergirl]

That was very moving to read....I admire his calmness of tone and the utmost dignity, despite all he and his family had gone through. Thanks for sharing this.

[Keltron]

Are you some kind of hippy liberal from California?

:D Great read though. I love the tone subtle sarcasm. I think he got his point across well.

[NorwichGrad]

After I read the letter, I was..like.."Wow! This is amazing!".. Then I was like... "Wait a minute. Slaves were UNEDUCATED and ILLITERATE. So how could he have written a letter free of grammatikkal and punk-chasion errors. I mean, this letter looks like it was written by an English major with a minor in pot smoking from a major university." So I researched, because, well, you can't trust everything you read on the net so you gotta filter out the BS..

I am happy to report that the letter is indeed LEGIT and AUTHENTIC. The message came from the heart of Jourdan, as it was dictated to the person who actually wrote the letter. (Who cares if Jourdan didn't actually 'write' the letter physically. It came from his HEART - and that's all that matters.)

Jourdan and his wife had four children - and all of whom received an education. (And no, Obama is NOT the great, great, great, grandson.)

It was a moving letter. Just shows you how people had CHARACTER back then.

Very nice find. Thanks for sharing.

[eomrat]

I enjoyed that a great deal

[LisaSkinnoble]

That was a great read. Very interesting. Lives lived.

Thanks for posting!

[mixbwoy]

That was very moving to read....I admire his calmness of tone and the utmost dignity, despite all he and his family had gone through. Thanks for sharing this.

I was thinking the same thing.


Are you some kind of hippy liberal from California?

:D Great read though. I love the tone subtle sarcasm. I think he got his point across well.

No, I'm some kind of hippy liberal from Florida...not srs...well partially. I'll let you figure which part.
The sarcasm is probably the best part.


After I read the letter, I was..like.."Wow! This is amazing!".. Then I was like... "Wait a minute. Slaves were UNEDUCATED and ILLITERATE. So how could he have written a letter free of grammatikkal and punk-chasion errors. I mean, this letter looks like it was written by an English major with a minor in pot smoking from a major university." So I researched, because, well, you can't trust everything you read on the net so you gotta filter out the BS..

I am happy to report that the letter is indeed LEGIT and AUTHENTIC. The message came from the heart of Jourdan, as it was dictated to the person who actually wrote the letter. (Who cares if Jourdan didn't actually 'write' the letter physically. It came from his HEART - and that's all that matters.)

Jourdan and his wife had four children - and all of whom received an education. (And no, Obama is NOT the great, great, great, grandson.)

It was a moving letter. Just shows you how people had CHARACTER back then.

Very nice find. Thanks for sharing.

My initial thoughts exactly. Actually did some research also before posting.


I enjoyed that a great deal

So did I.


That was a great read. Very interesting. Lives lived.

Thanks for posting!

Thought most folks in here would enjoy it.


Would have loved to have seen the colonel's face when he read the letter. Priceless!

[cozener]

I'd like to see the letter the colonel wrote to the guy.

[Keltron]

I'd like to see the letter the colonel wrote to the guy.

Dear Boy,
I'm kinda sorry for stripping you of your basic human rights and having you as a piece of property for your entire life. If you can overlook this minor issue, I'd love to have you come back and do the exact same shxt that I forced you to to against you will but this time I'll give you some money and won't hold you prisoner till the next work day,
Sincerely,
Ex-Massa

something like that I imagein lol

[Mindi912]

I must admit I had a good giggle and thought to myself good on him. He wrote a brilliant letter for sure.

[mixbwoy]

$11,680 was the amount Jourdan said the colonel owed him in 1865. Does anyone know how much that would be worth today?

[Keltron]

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[Frnkd]

first response..."Wow"

I guess you can learn other things besides bodybuilding on bb.com.......thanks for posting.

[Oceanside]

if I was a slave owner in those days, I would have formed a basketball team and told the other slave owners to form teams too, so that the plantations could play each other to help bolster confindence and pride within each plantation and help pass time more quickly ...

I'm sure life as a slave was a grind and every bit of entertainment would help...

[crupiea]

maybe if the owner offered some food stamps, welfare, and housing assistance he would have reconsidered.

oh wait, I am thinking 150 years into the future.

I admire that former slaves letter. an intelligent man clearly.

What the hell has happened to us?

[mslman71]

$11,680 was the amount Jourdan said the colonel owed him in 1865. Does anyone know how much that would be worth today?

It's about $200,000.

[NorwichGrad]

Speaking of slavery, you all know the song 'Amazing Grace.' It was written by a former slave trader John Newton. He wrote the song after he left his 'profession.' Listen (or read) the following:

Amazing Grace how sweet the sound
That saved a wretched like me.
I once was lost
but now am found.
Was blind but now I see.

He ultimately realized how wrong he was, so he wrote the song to repent. The point is that a great sinner like John gave mankind hope.

Fast forward to today. Amazing Grace is a very popular church song. Unfortunately, it is also a popular KKK rally song. (No, I'm not a member of KKK, as I don't quite meet the criteria if you know what I mean.) How a hate group like KKK loves the song Amazing Grace is beyond me. It's one of those 'WTF moments' I guess.

But, yeah, that's today's PBOUI (pronounced pah-booo-eeeh) - Priceless Bits of Useless Information.

[GuyJin]

Norwich Grad,

I bow to your expertise of being a 'Pboui'.

This is coming from an IWKABUT (pronounced "ik-wa-butt")
Idiot
Who
Knows
ABout
Useless
Trivia

:D

[Iceman1800]

I work with a guy who is a civil war historian. He brought up an interesting point in that at our age, we have been touched by someone related to a civil war veteran. He stated that the Generals and such often took young wives even when they were in their 70's-80's. If the wives lived into their 80's, their deaths would have been around the 1960-1970 time frame depending on when they were married. Amazing to think this really wasn't so long ago.

[crupiea]

This is an interesting article about what slavery was really like.

http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/2008/02/25/what_was_slavery_really

[mixbwoy]

It's about $200,000.

Thank-you kind sir.


Speaking of slavery, you all know the song 'Amazing Grace.' It was written by a former slave trader John Newton. He wrote the song after he left his 'profession.' Listen (or read) the following:

Amazing Grace how sweet the sound
That saved a wretched like me.
I once was lost
but now am found.
Was blind but now I see.

He ultimately realized how wrong he was, so he wrote the song to repent. The point is that a great sinner like John gave mankind hope.

Fast forward to today. Amazing Grace is a very popular church song. Unfortunately, it is also a popular KKK rally song. (No, I'm not a member of KKK, as I don't quite meet the criteria if you know what I mean.) How a hate group like KKK loves the song Amazing Grace is beyond me. It's one of those 'WTF moments' I guess.

But, yeah, that's today's PBOUI (pronounced pah-booo-eeeh) - Priceless Bits of Useless Information.

Very cool info. Who doesn't love PBOUI?

[jdtemple]

if I was a slave owner in those days, I would have formed a basketball team and told the other slave owners to form teams too, so that the plantations could play each other to help bolster confindence and pride within each plantation and help pass time more quickly ...

I'm sure life as a slave was a grind and every bit of entertainment would help...Slavery was abolished in 1833. Basketball was invented in 1891. Just sayin! :)

[mslman71]

Slavery was abolished in 1833. Basketball was invented in 1891. Just sayin! :)

?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion

[NYkarate]

Are you some kind of hippy liberal from California?

:D Great read though. I love the tone subtle sarcasm. I think he got his point across well.

Love the "thank him for taking the pistol away when you were shooting at me". By the way, I am pretty sure it was Republicans that lead the emancipation movement in DC, so I don't get the hippy liberal comment.

[jdtemple]

?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tionThis was my source, but I like yours better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

Guess I should have read that a little bit closer!

My statement remains true, however. Basketball didn't exist when slavery was popular.

[champ07]

maybe if the owner offered some food stamps, welfare, and housing assistance he would have reconsidered.

oh wait, I am thinking 150 years into the future.



Enjoyed reading your posts until this one.Same statement could apply to WHITE trash.Never thought you were so narrow minded.

[crupiea]

Enjoyed reading your posts until this one.Same statement could apply to WHITE trash.Never thought you were so narrow minded.

it is referring to how the government wants to keep some segments of society down so they will continue to vote for them. They encourage a system of government dependancy and in return they expect votes. didnt think i had to spell it out but its a certain political party that does this more then the other.

White or black it doesnt matter, its the policy i was pointing towards.

sorry for any confusion.

[sromero]

=crupiea;825900791]This is an interesting article about what slavery was really like.


Are you posting this to try to explain that slavery wasn't as bad as we think it was? Have you lost sight of the fact that people were allowed to OWN other people as property? I hope your "interesting" comment meant "look at how some idiot tries to justify enslaving another race."

[champ07]

it is referring to how the government wants to keep some segments of society down so they will continue to vote for them. They encourage a system of government dependancy and in return they expect votes. didnt think i had to spell it out but its a certain political party that does this more then the other.

White or black it doesnt matter, its the policy i was pointing towards.

sorry for any confusion.How does your foot taste???

[mslman71]

How does your foot taste???

Actually, I think there's plenty of that for everyone.

Rather than ask people what they are meaning to say in the form of a question they have to deny, why don't people just ask what they are saying rather than assume whatever it is that is convenient for them at that moment?

"I like dogs"

"OMMMGGGGGGAWWD are you saying you hate cats?"

[champ07]

[QUOTE=mslman71;826301611]

Rather than ask people what they are meaning to say in the form of a question they have to deny, why don't people just ask what they are saying

??????????????????????

[mixbwoy]

This is an interesting article about what slavery was really like.

http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/2008/02/25/what_was_slavery_really

"Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution."

My favorite quote from this.

WTF did I just read!?

[Iceman1800]

Exactly. There are good aspects of slavery? Taking people from another country, half of them die on the boats over to here, force them to work without pay, beat the men and rape the women. And some how this is twisted into a political thing?

[dbx]

Exactly. There are good aspects of slavery? Taking people from another country, half of them die on the boats over to here, force them to work without pay, beat the men and rape the women. And some how this is twisted into a political thing?

Talk to Africans, as they are the ones who first used slavery for personal gains and tribal dominance. Or not..... :p

[Iceman1800]

I don't disagree slavery has been around for centuries and some forms are much worse. But all of it is wrong regardless of where it is or was

[mixbwoy]

Talk to Africans, as they are the ones who first used slavery for personal gains and tribal dominance. Or not..... :p

I love how this point always comes up in a conversation about American slavery. Like this somehow legitimizes the actions that occurred. We are aware Africans had slaves, Native Americans had slaves & just about every other race/culture has done this. But, you clearly have missed the point.

[dbx]

I love how this point always comes up in a conversation about American slavery. Like this somehow legitimizes the actions that occurred. We are aware Africans had slaves, Native Americans had slaves & just about every other race/culture has done this. But, you clearly have missed the point.

Yes, valid point, but please.....exrtrapolate....

[immuno]

Love the "thank him for taking the pistol away when you were shooting at me".

I loved that part. Lmao

Great post, op. That was a fun read.

[mixbwoy]

Yes, valid point, but please.....exrtrapolate....

Iceman said it right...


I don't disagree slavery has been around for centuries and some forms are much worse. But all of it is wrong regardless of where it is or was

But, in case it was missed:

Point = Slavery is wrong, no matter who is dong it.