Facebook Really Worth Five Billion?

[FernandoVenezue]

so Im watching the nightly news with brian williams...the biggest Fredo in the history of television, and basically they are doing a story that is deep throating Zuckerberg's and Facebooks junk when it comes to the IPO that is going to be released next week, saying how big facebook is etc. how much they will be worth in the future, yada yada.

Idk dude...I honestly don't see it...I use facebook less and less everyday. All it is are annoying ppl complaining about their life...OR bragging and taking pics of themselves in clubs, being narcissistic and self important etc. Fake ass girls who need attention so they post every minutia of detail about their boring lives....

The problem with the content of facebook is that it is created by users....and the users are idiots! They aren't professional writers, journos, media experts....they are just regular morons!

And whats more is that the history of social networking is a rise and fall type pattern. Remember Myspace? Friendster? Geocities? I mean how is it that people don't see facebook going the same way? Five billion is WAAAY too steep folks....WAAAY too steep and way too optimistic a price. No way facebook is worth even one one hundreth of that in ten years..no way. NBC is comparing this IPO to ford motor company and GE.....seriously dude? Seriously? Facebook makes NOTHING....it is a delivery system to track peoples internet browsing habits and collect personal data on its users so that it can create custom advertising...thats it. as soon as the kiddies and the hipsters and the cool people of the world figure that out...its gonna be gone. adios muchachos.

[Zuus]

so Im watching the nightly news with brian williams...the biggest Fredo in the history of television, and basically they are doing a story that is deep throating Zuckerberg's and Facebooks junk when it comes to the IPO that is going to be released next week, saying how big facebook is etc. how much they will be worth in the future, yada yada.

Idk dude...I honestly don't see it...I use facebook less and less everyday. All it is are annoying ppl complaining about their life...OR bragging and taking pics of themselves in clubs, being narcissistic and self important etc. Fake ass girls who need attention so they post every minutia of detail about their boring lives....

The problem with the content of facebook is that it is created by users....and the users are idiots! They aren't professional writers, journos, media experts....they are just regular morons!

And whats more is that the history of social networking is a rise and fall type pattern. Remember Myspace? Friendster? Geocities? I mean how is it that people don't see facebook going the same way? Five billion is WAAAY too steep folks....WAAAY too steep and way too optimistic a price. No way facebook is worth even one one hundreth of that in ten years..no way. NBC is comparing this IPO to ford motor company and GE.....seriously dude? Seriously? Facebook makes NOTHING....it is a delivery system to track peoples internet browsing habits and collect personal data on its users so that it can create custom advertising...thats it. as soon as the kiddies and the hipsters and the cool people of the world figure that out...its gonna be gone. adios muchachos.

zuckerburg finally saying facebook has reached his peak and hes gonna make some more $$ and let the public deal with its decline

they have NO revenue, if nobody wanted to advertise with them, it wouldnt be worth a cent.

[canuckathlete]

so Im watching the nightly news with brian williams...the biggest Fredo in the history of television, and basically they are doing a story that is deep throating Zuckerberg's and Facebooks junk when it comes to the IPO that is going to be released next week, saying how big facebook is etc. how much they will be worth in the future, yada yada.

Idk dude...I honestly don't see it...I use facebook less and less everyday. All it is are annoying ppl complaining about their life...OR bragging and taking pics of themselves in clubs, being narcissistic and self important etc. Fake ass girls who need attention so they post every minutia of detail about their boring lives....

The problem with the content of facebook is that it is created by users....and the users are idiots! They aren't professional writers, journos, media experts....they are just regular morons!

And whats more is that the history of social networking is a rise and fall type pattern. Remember Myspace? Friendster? Geocities? I mean how is it that people don't see facebook going the same way? Five billion is WAAAY too steep folks....WAAAY too steep and way too optimistic a price. No way facebook is worth even one one hundreth of that in ten years..no way. NBC is comparing this IPO to ford motor company and GE.....seriously dude? Seriously? Facebook makes NOTHING....it is a delivery system to track peoples internet browsing habits and collect personal data on its users so that it can create custom advertising...thats it. as soon as the kiddies and the hipsters and the cool people of the world figure that out...its gonna be gone. adios muchachos.

They are looking to raise 5 billion with the IPO, the companies valuation will be $50 billion +


Probably not worth that much, but they are in a far better position than the rest of the social networking sites. Did anyone think that a search engine could ever be worth $180 billion 7 years ago when google became public?

[UniversityMisc]

When FB goes public, welcome to a FB that will be filled with even more ads and give you even less privacy as they will be answering to shareholders and shareholders expect constant gains.

[FernandoVenezue]

When FB goes public, welcome to a FB that will be filled with even more ads and give you even less privacy as they will be answering to shareholders and shareholders expect constant gains.

agreed. facebook is going down, like it or not. ironically what you say happened to myspace too when it was sold to newscorp.

[CDbrah]

twitter FTW

[Otaman]

key here is worth

Google is worth $180 billion if they sold it right now. Advertisements probably bring in like 1-2% of that a year. Same goes for Facebook. They're supposedly worth $5 billion and Zuckerburg is supposedly a "billionaire" but they only make $50 million in revenues per year.

[GinoFelino]

You guys got the numbers wrong. They're selling 5 billion worth of shares which is just a percent of the company. The valuation of the company is 75-100 billion. When Goldman Sachs invested 500 million a year ago, that's when the valuation of Facebook was 50 billion.

They also had 1 billion in profit and 3.7 billion in revenue last year, not 50 million.

The reason Zuckerberg is a multi billionaire and not supposedly is because he still personally owns like 20-25% of Facebook. With the valuation as it is, they said he will be worth 25 billion. Doesn't mean he has 25 billion in cash, but that's what his ownership is worth.

Social networking isn't going anywhere. Facebook has cemented itself in the same way Google has for search engines and won't be going anywhere.

[ej25i]

Doesn't matter what your opinion is.
Doesn't matter that YOU don't use facebook as much, etc. etc. etc.

Facebook is still growing.

http://www.benphoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Facebook-User-Growth-Chart.png

[Chynaman]

You guys got the numbers wrong. They're selling 5 billion worth of shares which is just a percent of the company. The valuation of the company is 75-100 billion. When Goldman Sachs invested 500 million a year ago, that's when the valuation of Facebook was 50 billion.

They also had 1 billion in profit and 3.7 billion in revenue last year, not 50 million.

The reason Zuckerberg is a multi billionaire and not supposedly is because he still personally owns like 20-25% of Facebook. With the valuation as it is, they said he will be worth 25 billion. Doesn't mean he has 25 billion in cash, but that's what his ownership is worth.

Social networking isn't going anywhere. Facebook has cemented itself in the same way Google has for search engines and won't be going anywhere.

Finally, some sense in this thread...

[raypbchz]

Facebook really worth Five Bilion?

of course not.
/thread

[tambn22]

I thought Facebook was worth closer to 100 billion.

[AntiGlobalist]

Do a little internet marketing and you'll understand why facebook is worth so much. They literally have an outlet to bring very specific targeted ads to every age group and demographic in the US. Basically, a marketer's dream.

[HotBiscuits]

key here is worth

Google is worth $180 billion if they sold it right now. Advertisements probably bring in like 1-2% of that a year. Same goes for Facebook. They're supposedly worth $5 billion and Zuckerburg is supposedly a "billionaire" but they only make $50 million in revenues per year.

bahahah ok professor broscience... Google makes 1% of its income from ads. Lmaooo.


http://www.splatf.com/2011/10/google-revenue/
http://www.wordstream.com/images/where-does-google-make-its-money.png
http://gigaom.com/2009/07/17/where-does-google-get-97-of-its-revenue/
http://www.howtogeek.com/103972/where-did-google-make-their-money-in-2011-infographic/

[flabtoabs]

jews gonna jew


facebook is not worth 1c

your personal information you uploaded like sheep is worth billions.

[FernandoVenezue]

to the dude who posted the graph: I'm almost sure that is wrong. Articles have been talking about how unique users are down. Mostly their growth is from outside the U.S.

Yeah, facebook will always be there, but will they be a cultural touchstone like they are now, or will they be a web utility, like the yellow pages? or the web's equivalent of the yellow pages?

Their user base may be intact, but what is facebooks cultural import? how cool is it to the cool kids and the trend makers etc? I say not very. Its cultural value is shrinking and the reliability of its advertising is questionable. how many facebook banner ads do you click on per day? or at all?

myspace stopped being cool, THEN it went belly up. it didn't happen the other way around, even though that's what ppl like to believe. bottom line is that it is on a cultural decline. its financial decline is almost sure to follow...

[Bcider]

to the dude who posted the graph: I'm almost sure that is wrong. Articles have been talking about how unique users are down. Mostly their growth is from outside the U.S.

Yeah, facebook will always be there, but will they be a cultural touchstone like they are now, or will they be a web utility, like the yellow pages? or the web's equivalent of the yellow pages?

Their user base may be intact, but what is facebooks cultural import? how cool is it to the cool kids and the trend makers etc? I say not very. Its cultural value is shrinking and the reliability of its advertising is questionable. how many facebook banner ads do you click on per day? or at all?

myspace stopped being cool, THEN it went belly up. it didn't happen the other way around, even though that's what ppl like to believe. bottom line is that it is on a cultural decline. its financial decline is almost sure to follow...

It will take something big to take facebook down. I just dont see it happening. Too many people are addicted to it.

[CDbrah]

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[WAITINGTO]

zuckerburg finally saying facebook has reached his peak and hes gonna make some more $$ and let the public deal with its decline

they have NO revenue, if nobody wanted to advertise with them, it wouldnt be worth a cent.

are you really saying these words? most retarded thing i've seen today

[RusnConcussion]

key here is worth

Google is worth $180 billion if they sold it right now. Advertisements probably bring in like 1-2% of that a year. Same goes for Facebook. They're supposedly worth $5 billion and Zuckerburg is supposedly a "billionaire" but they only make $50 million in revenues per year.

The valuation is close to 85 bn. They are only selling a small fraction of the company. I agree that Facebook is grossly overvaled. Zynga and Groupon also. They are all garbage and can be copied by a warehouse of Chinese programmers in a month. I am just waiting for the social bubble to burst. It's honestly just young people selling old people **** wrapped in gold to oldies who don't understand what they are buying.

[S.T.A.R.S.]

heard 94b

also heard on the radio today. about some painter fb hired to paint around their HQ. they offered him cash or shares.... he took the shares. shares are worth 200million.