IBE's Epitsane Log (Not Sponsored)

[GrumpySteelMan]

*****01/13/07*****
Ladies and Gentlemen, Grumpy here.

I just got my Epistane in the mail, two bottles, can't wait to start dropping caps!

A little background, I'm recovering from a pretty awful car accident, which happened December 1 (not my fault luckily). The car got smashed up and I got some whiplash and other nasty stuff. My last official weight prior was 223lbs, 12%bf (caliper measured), on November 22.

Today my weight is 204, ouch. Doctor ordered me out of the gym. In fact I'm supposed to stay out, but I can't take it any longer.

I'm really excited about the Epistane, I have an ongoing gyno issue that has pretty much eliminated the chance of my using any high androgenic AAS.

Starting:
Weight - 204lbs
Bodyfat - 14% (Estimated)
Height - 6'2
Dose - 40mg ed, 2 AM, 2 PreWO

Planning to run 4wks followed by a full physical, including blood work scheduled Feb 12, and depending on results will run 6-8wks total.

Also taking (daily):

GNC Ultra Mega Gold
Fish Oil 2-4g
Vitamin C 2g
Vitamin B6 - 200mg
Vitamin B Complex
Vitamin E 800IU
Beta Carotene 20,000IU
GNC Maximum Greens 1/day
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support (1/2 serving AM and PM)

*****01/14/07*****
I took 2/caps 20mg yesterday, just because I couldn't wait. I got wood at dinner while out with my lady and got a little more frisky than usual with her. Seems like sex drive isn't instantly hindered.

I've taken 2/caps 20mg this AM. I'm going to pop two more caps right before gym time. Keep in mind that I haven't worked out in ~45days, and I expect to be weak and run out of steam quick-like.

Pre workout notes:

Mood has improved notably, I must chalk this up to the Epistane because I am having a crappy week. Since I am usually grumpy when I wake up, my girlfriend thanks IBE already.

Nice steady workout tonight, did a simple total body just to help gauge how much strength I've lost...which is a ton. Skipped the cardio, no question I needed to call it early tonight. Didn't think to measure til I was plenty warmed up, and I prefer measuring 'cold' so measurements in the AM.


Grumpy, you will not see hindered libido! It supports libido well and sends it into hyperdrive at first! Plus, I though I posted earlier to warn people but this stuff has a distinct anti-depressant effect. No rage, no anger, just a happy focused confidence all the way, even at 40+mg/day! You are experiencing it just like I did. So you like the feel of it so far?

I am really enjoying how I feel. Sex drive is good, and I am not touchy at all. I am ordering another couple bottles to make sure I stay stocked up.

*****01/15/07*****
Chest/Bi today.

Workout was better than expected. While my bench press was still way below norm, I was still pretty strong in fly movements. My bicep workout went GRRRREAT! I usually have a lot of trouble getting a good pump in the ol' guns, but I certainly made it this time.

Weight Pre-workout was 206
*****01/16/07*****
Got up this morning, and was shocked!

I swear to God I look distinctly leaner and dry in comparison to just a couple days ago! Also muscle soreness isn't so bad (since I haven't worked out in 45 days I expected to not be able to move). Muscles are still very very full.

If this keeps up I'm going to be buying stock in IBE...I never imagined feeling so good or that I feel able to 'bounce' back like this with such a reportedly 'mild' compound.

Another happy fact is that unlike SD I'm not feeling dehydrated or 'pukey.'

[GrumpySteelMan]

*****01/18/07*****
Due to some questions, I will say my diet is only covered by minimums and maximums.

Min 200g protein/day
Min 300g carbs/day
Max 50g fat/day

I'm trying to lean out a little bit while getting some of my lost mass back, so I'm not going crazy on the calories. It's DEFINITELY not placebo effect bros, cause ummm, my gyno is shrinking like John Kerry's approval score.
Pre-workout notes:

Mood is still top outta sight, great all around. Feeling and looking very full. Can't wait to see what I get out of my workout this time around.

I'll catch my weight PreWO today.
*****01/18/07*****
PreWO weight 210, 6lbs in 5 days at 40mg/day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy Gentle Sweating Jesus!

It can't be water, it can't be water, it can't be water, because when I retain water my BP goes up like crazy. Checked it today PreWO - 119/79. So a big nod to Epistane and AIs Cycle Support.

Did a total body circuit with my girlfriend today, including 20mins HIIT cardio. No doubt about it, my stamina and endurance are waaaay above normal, even prior to my car accident and layoff time.

Libido issues, haha! Nailed it last night twice and once this AM...now that's what I call a good warm-up.

It's been about an hour and a half since my workout and I swear I'm ready to go back.

Before anybody goes crazy, I think there is a reason I am responding so well...

A- I haven't run a full PH or AAS cycle in a long time due to ongoing gyno issues

B- I LOST 19lbs in 45 days from being injured and out of the gym.

C- The good mood and mild appetite enhancement is helping me get the calories, and stay motivated to power through that 4th set pump and burn.
*****01/20/07*****
Bloodwork has looked fine for everyone else, so I am not terribly worried about it.

Mood is still lifted and libido isn't down by ANY means.

Time for a total body w/o and some HIIT

*****01/22/07*****
Still feeling strong and very 'together' no training and crappy diet for a couple day, stress with school, projects, crazy drama I thought I left in high school, etc.

I can attest to Epistane supporting a positive mood, because the **** that has gone down with me recently would've landed me (at least) the night in jail. Hindsight being 20/20 it's the Epistane that saved this dudes face.

Back on topic, planning to hit the gym shortly, my recovery is so good that I feel like I could workout again just a couple hours after I've just completed one!

Good stuff goooooood stuff.

P.S. The gyno is still shrinking, I'm in love with this stuff!
*****01/30/07*****
Sorry for the delay in updating, life and school is NUUUUTS.

Running til Feb 14. Then doing bloodwork, etc and a full physical.

Holy **** Bros, I am still hopping around like a kid. Hit the scales today, 215lbs. No ****.

Bwahahahahahaha. This is up from 204lbs on 1-13.

+11lbs in seventeen days with a clean diet, 8+hrs of sleep, cardio three times a week, and a heavy workout regimen.

I've been working on modified HST training, and the extra reps I'm able to do is really making me incredibly happy. My arm pump when I was doing back/tris was getting out of hand to the point I decided to jump on and doing some low-intensity cardio for the remainder of my workout. Despite that effect from time to time (no nasty low-back pumps here) I am finding that my muscle endurance is ahead of my cardiovascular capacity to support it.

I feel really strong and even the night or next morning after a workout my soreness is minimal and I feel as strong as I did previous to my workout the day before, i.e. I am not suffering from the weakness I generally expect the day after a heavy workout.

General fatigue hasn't been a problem at all, in fact I'm in severe danger of overtraining because I worked out at 9AM and now it's 2:30PM and I want to get back in the gym all over again. The positive mood and mild increase in desire for protein has been awesome for me.

Currently I'm running 20mg AM, 20mg PWO. When it gets close to bloodwork time I may kick it up to 30mg AM 30mgPWO just to give the bloodwork a trial by fire (i.e. kick it in the ass real hard and see what happens). I am confident the numbers will still be good.

In regards to this being an oral Pro-anabolic, I don't have any of the symptoms that i've had with other orals, no flu-blah like with A-50 and no sunk cardio workouts like I experienced with Lady Dianabol. No hard hard shutdown and terrible acne and fatigue like with SD.

Shutdown is starting to appear more aggressively now. My nuts are drawn up tight and close with very slight atrophy, but sexual function is good and sexual stamina is...ahem...awesome. If I dose early AM and take my second dose around 2pm then by the next AM my boys are almost back to full swing.

Next cycle I'm thinking about pulsing 50mg on WO days for 3on 2off. Any ideas there gentlemen?

Did I mention I love this shibby? Good times.

Side Note: I am not leg humping IBE, nor do I have any stake in the supplement or research company whatsoever. I am simply a believer in the service and quality that they provide. IBE has in return for my business always given me good feedback, appreciation, and a willingness to fix something that has gone awry. I have spent a lot of money with them for my research needs as well as my personal workout needs and they've always come through for me.

Thanks a million IBE.
*****02/04/07*****
Diet question answered: I shoot for 3500-4000 on WO days, 3000 off (Drop carbs and 1/2 fat).

Strength gain has been hella sick. For example:

First day back on Incline BB Bench Press (remember 45 days off and injured):
45X20 W/U
1 - 95X15
2 - 135X10
3 - 155X5

This week on Incline BB Bench Press -
W/U - 45X20
1 - 135X15
2 - 185X12
3 - 185X9
4 - 205X6

I have been astounded by my strength gains in my large muscle group movements. Shoulders/Arms haven't gone up like that, but quads, hams, chest, lats, lower back have all really picked up in strength.

I know some of it is coming from CNS adaptation to heavy loads again, but at the same time I am extremely thankful, I couldn't have picked a better (legal) compound for assisting me in my return to the gym.

*****02/05/07*****
Weight was up to 218 today, no workout, be there in the AM!

*****02/06/07*****
PreWO weight 219lbs gains appear to be around 85% lean (exceptional).

Did a heavy heavy heavy leg workout on machines. Is anyone else finding they can get those extra 3, 4, even 5 reps on the compound exercises? It's like my brain says I can't do anymore, but then I can bang out more solid reps with nothing more than a groan.

I actually got a low back pump from doing weighted decline crunches today, nothing painful, but a definite reminder that I was 'ON' something.

I am still feeling like my cardiovascular system just can't keep up with the pace my muscles are setting, haha. I have been getting a little light headed but I think it is due to my prior lack of activity. Maybe I should throw some of my medication in for my exercise induced asthma? Any thoughts?

I still just feel great! Libido and function are good, balls are still coming back right before my next dose. I am in love.
I have tried a number of compounds, oral and otherwise, and I really have been amazed at how fast the strength comes up. I was NEVER one to go up in strength WO to WO every WO...but I have AND I've added another work set to each and every exercise, so 4 sets each exercise and more weight every time I step foot in the gym.

The only way this stuff wouldn't be so great is if you wouldn't push yourself to the new limit. So don't waste your time with the 'same old workout' with Epistane. Kick it up to eleven and you'll love it.

[LakeMountD]

Definitely subscribed. Outstanding log so far, wish we had more people like you ;).

[TTewell]

Subscribed do you know if epistane has DHT side effects?

[ZDub212]

Did you check out the thread on havoc? Some insightful stuff on PCT etc...best of luck

[LakeMountD]

Subscribed do you know if epistane has DHT side effects?

The only thing I noticed was an increased in shedding at 40mg. As for the other effects such as acne I definitely didn't have any at 30mg, might have had a little at 40 but a very small amount and it was usually only one (usually I have very clear skin).

There is a lot of info over at the IBE Forums in the Epistane section about it. There are good stickies and A LOT of logs.

[TTewell]

The only thing I noticed was an increased in shedding at 40mg. As for the other effects such as acne I definitely didn't have any at 30mg, might have had a little at 40 but a very small amount and it was usually only one (usually I have very clear skin).

There is a lot of info over at the IBE Forums in the Epistane section about it. There are good stickies and A LOT of logs.

So there could be hair loss? :(

[LakeMountD]

So there could be hair loss? :(

Haha with any substance that has any androgenic value you are going to have it. It is the nature of the beast ;).

[mmowry]

Lookin good Grumpy.Those are some amazing gains!!!

Its nice to see that there are more that are reporting the same and or better results than Ive had!!BTW your last post would have taken me 3 hrs to type.LOL

[GrumpySteelMan]

Subscribed do you know if epistane has DHT side effects?

I *may* be shedding more, but my hairline is unaffected.

Pre WO weight today was 220lbs.

Had an early morning workout, too early, I didn't wake up completely until about halfway through. I guess I need a jog or something prior to my workout, but it was still pretty good.

I noticed a little joint soreness in my wrists today, but I usually work out after I've been awake a few hours, so it's possible I was still very 'cold.' Also I should mention that I am still undergoing therapy to my wrists 2-3 times a week (cold laser, chiropractic adjustment, paraffin, etc).

[P4D2A0]

just subscribed to ur log bro.. awesome gains man, my hat is tipped

[GrumpySteelMan]

Thanks a lot P4D2A0. It's still tough being so weak, but man this stuff is magic. haha.

[P4D2A0]

no prob, i had to give credit.. really? its that good? not gonna lie, the more i read about, the more tempted i am to try it lol

[GrumpySteelMan]

no prob, i had to give credit.. really? its that good? not gonna lie, the more i read about, the more tempted i am to try it lol

I'm a tough guy to please. I think MOST supps are BS. I've taken everything I can buy and this stuff is the best value I've ever encountered, even compared to real AAS cycles.

I had a great day today.

I planned this cycle for a four-week'r but man I don't think I ever want to come off this stuff.

W/O planned for the PM after class. Calories have been short today, slept good though...hoping to get psyched and get into the gym.

I may drop some NO Xplode or something as I may have experienced a tad of lethargy, but once again my kcals have been lower than usual so that may be the culprit.

So now I'll get my learn on, shut the h311 up, and then go lift my 4$$ off.

[P4D2A0]

any good updates bro?

[sicdeusvult]

any updates bro? bf%?

[Yin-Yang]

What would be recommended for PCT Eipstane's product X-lean make me a little weary and all the info I have obtained seems great then just gets shot down by equally great info, maybe some first hand experiences will be better