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JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:12 AM
After my move to the UK and joining a real gym again I've realized that if I am actually training for something I might push myself harder. Given my Meneire's Disease I will have limitations of course and would probably need to wear ear protection at a loud meet, and given that my doctors would clear any forms needed for my duiretics for purposes of testing I should be ok on that.

What think?

PerpetualMotion
11-21-2011, 08:13 AM
Do it or you're a pussy.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:16 AM
Also it could be up to 3 weeks before our broadband is installed in our flat so once I get there I will not see you gaise for a bit. I will miss my Nut Misc family. However I will try to have lots of sex in your honor.

ko300zx
11-21-2011, 08:16 AM
Do it or you're a pussy.

2nding your potential resemblance to female genitalia if you do not.

Phrak
11-21-2011, 08:17 AM
Hear protection might lead to red lights if you cant hear the commands.

NaLLa8705
11-21-2011, 08:24 AM
Do it phaggot!!

Also, will be sad to see you go, you perpetual motion and bunk have became some of my favorite nmisc posters (no homo no wk)

Do whatever you feel is necessary to stay motivated.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:25 AM
Hear protection might lead to red lights if you cant hear the commands.

I am also hearing impared. Would they use visual signals becuase of this possibly?

In any event my lifetime lifts are 475 bench, 585 squat, 615 deadlift, all raw as a bodybuilder so I think with proper trainign I could hit some solid numbers again if I focus on it.

Chuck2600
11-21-2011, 08:28 AM
Nah, disregard strenght aquire aesthetics imo. But to each his own I guess

SoulZeppelin
11-21-2011, 08:30 AM
Do it. Where do you think your total is right now?

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:31 AM
Nah, disregard strenght aquire aesthetics imo. But to each his own I guess

I lifted very heavy even as a bodybuilder most of the time. I know how to train for both, and Jamie Lewis has proven that you can be at a low bodyfat and own power lifting.

Phrak
11-21-2011, 08:32 AM
Im sure if you talk to the head judge you can ask them for visual cues. I dont look at the judges during the lift, and only listen for the verbal commands. Plus you can ask them to turn off the music. I dont like lfting to your stereotypical death metal you see at these meets. So i get them to turn it down low.

Also most people should acquire strength before acquring aesthetics. Good luck building a good physique repping 135lb on the bench.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:34 AM
Do it. Where do you think your total is right now?

****ty, I need a year to build some strength and I have not deadlifted in forever as I train at home and bad for my housemate's floor. Cutting atm, but I think I could hit 405 squat and 500 deadlift in just a few months. My bench would need a lot of work about to start actually using some power lifting form today to see how it feels. I've been training with zero arch etc lately on it. As I have said in my training thread I regained a ton of size doing very high volume training but my strength gains have been very slow, so will be spending the next year doing very little over 5 reps anyway, while continuing to cut down to 200. I think 300 bench, 400 squat and 500 dead at 200 lbs will happen in less than a year for me without any specialized training, as I had a higher bench, squat and deadlift when still an intermediate natty at 195 years ago.

Lifterforlife10
11-21-2011, 08:47 AM
****ty, I need a year to build some strength and I have not deadlifted in forever as I train at home and bad for my housemate's floor. Cutting atm, but I think I could hit 405 squat and 500 deadlift in just a few months. My bench would need a lot of work about to start actually using some power lifting form today to see how it feels. I've been training with zero arch etc lately on it. As I have said in my training thread I regained a ton of size doing very high volume training but my strength gains have been very slow, so will be spending the next year doing very little over 5 reps anyway, while continuing to cut down to 200. I think 300 bench, 400 squat and 500 dead at 200 lbs will happen in less than a year for me without any specialized training, as I had a higher bench, squat and deadlift when still an intermediate natty at 195 years ago.

Why would you power lift given the bold, everyone knows high reps for toning bro, you want dem abs right? Then its 20+ reps for every set

:D

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 08:51 AM
Why would you power lift given the bold, everyone knows high reps for toning bro, you want dem abs right? Then its 20+ reps for every set

:D

Go read my training thread on this subforum. ;-)

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 09:00 AM
Bwahahha well the strengh on bench will come slow (just tested my max), again for those forgetting I have been rebuilding after medical issues kept me partially bed ridden for 8 months and have only been training again for a year. So am still weak as a kitten.

Just tested my bench... 235 was difficult for a single, started with 205 and add 5 lbs until it got heavy. Almost stuck 2/3 of the way up, so could use some tricep strength and a lot more work on my technique...

johnpagnolo
11-21-2011, 09:13 AM
are you the guy on disability payments?

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 09:16 AM
are you the guy on disability payments?

Yes... and before you ask given the specifics of my condition and the reasons I was determined to be disabled being able to lift weights 20 days out of a month if I still spend 4 days a month in bed/vomiting/unable to function does not void disability status, nor would me working part time.

Going from 46k a year to 12k a year isn't something I did "for the money" believe me. It is nearly impossible to hold a full time job when you randomly miss that much work no matter what you try to do about it even if you do a great job when you are there. This is something my lawyer commented on in our talks as well... people who run marathons etc are considered disabled if their medical conditions will result in termination from regular full time work due to excessive missed time and qualify for their social security payments early.

Sorry get a little touchy, lost a long term friend over this issue who is an ultra conservative who owns a company who got pissy with me when I filed for social security when my company terminated me when on disability leave stating that my medical condition would require me to miss too many sick days from work and they could not accomidate it... who then said "You could do some desk jobs" when I asked him if he would hire me to work at his company though while I was fighting my disability he told me "Well it would mess with my insurance because you randomly fall down... and you would miss a lot of work... I have to have reliable people bro"... just a week after he said it was wrong of me to try to get my social security. He would not hire me to sit at a desk because of my medical issues, nor will anyone else, yet felt I wasn't disabled medically and applying for the social security I put into was wrong of me.

jammyo40
11-21-2011, 09:58 AM
Damn. 12K/year is harsh as f*ck. Anyways, I think either competitive powerlifting or bodybuilding would help you rack up a decent clientele if you become a personal trainer in the UK. Ya know, something a little a more than a "certification".

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 10:01 AM
Damn. 12K/year is harsh as f*ck. Anyways, I think either competitive powerlifting or bodybuilding would help you rack up a decent clientele if you become a personal trainer in the UK. Ya know, something a little a more than a "certification".

Right I plan on trying to pick up some part time training work. My SSDI really isn't enough to live on comfortable (yeah bro 12k a year... but at least I pay no income tax on it... that is what you have to look forward to at 65), and they encourage you to try and work part time if you are able when on it... and not penalize you if you make an attempt to work again full time but have to stop or are terminated within 36 months.

Chuck2600
11-21-2011, 10:01 AM
So what exactly is your medical disorder?

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 10:09 AM
So what exactly is your medical disorder?

Severe bi-lateral Meneire's disease... most of the symptoms are workable, such a the poor balance (I just walk with a cane), the hearing loss (I've lost around 40-50% of my hearing)... but the drop attacks are what classify me as disabled.

NegatronPrime
11-21-2011, 10:12 AM
do it phaggot train for a year and ill go to a meet with you and show you how a real boy lifts light weights (srs)

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 10:16 AM
do it phaggot train for a year and ill go to a meet with you and show you how a real boy lifts light weights (srs)

Ok deal. :D

My wife is ok with me giving it a try as long as I stay safe and careful. She fusses over my vertigo issues.

jammyo40
11-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Ok deal. :D

My wife is ok with me giving it a try as long as I stay safe and careful. She fusses over my vertigo issues.

At least you ain't clean and jerking 500 lbs over yo head.

ananf72
11-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Is all the sex gonna affect your strength?
Will miss the lols for a few weeks but you have some catching up to do with the wife :)

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 10:38 AM
At least you ain't clean and jerking 500 lbs over yo head.

This is true yeah some Olympic lifts could be dangerous for me.


Is all the sex gonna affect your strength?
Will miss the lols for a few weeks but you have some catching up to do with the wife :)

That thar testosterone from 3+ climaxs a day is helpful.

Actually I lose like 5 lbs every time she visits from the catching up. I actually have had to do my Chef voice/imitation and go "Damn woman... I just made sweet love to you 5 minutes ago... you trying to kill me?".

axxlef
11-21-2011, 10:50 AM
as long as you feel it won't be to demmanding medically go for it.Having a goal to aim at should give you the motivation to hit those lifts again. soyeahdoitphaggotaslongasitissafetodosoofcourse.

MarkVI
11-21-2011, 10:57 AM
Do it.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 02:53 PM
Negatron... actually looks like there are a lot of meets not that far from where I will be looking around... and after converting their Kg to lbs... a lot of these meets the guys are not really that strong... am I missing something or if I diet down to 198 and have totals 1200+... I could actually win meets or am I reading things wrong? I'm assuming these are raw tested meets becuase some of the numbers I am seeing in the 90 and 100 kg classes are numbers you see in gym rats who compete in nothing at a number places I have trained.

You are more familiar with the scene.

sawoobley
11-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Negatron... actually looks like there are a lot of meets not that far from where I will be looking around... and after converting their Kg to lbs... a lot of these meets the guys are not really that strong... am I missing something or if I diet down to 198 and have totals 1200+... I could actually win meets or am I reading things wrong? I'm assuming these are raw tested meets becuase some of the numbers I am seeing in the 90 and 100 kg classes are numbers you see in gym rats who compete in nothing at a number places I have trained.

You are more familiar with the scene.

What meets would you compete in? Would you have to compete against other bike riders or how does that work since you fell off your bike years ago?

NegatronPrime
11-21-2011, 02:59 PM
I dont really know Jason, I dont know if theyre tested or as regulated as the US meets, or how big/popular they are in regards to being part of lifting associations or whether they literally are just 'meets'.

On topic of 'testing', i dont think the natural scene is all that big in england.

Out of the regulars, im pretty sure im the only natural lifter at my gym lol

foodpr0n
11-21-2011, 03:01 PM
Do you want to do it?
For me, I see no point - but if it's something you WANT to do then yes, do it phaggot.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 03:28 PM
What meets would you compete in? Would you have to compete against other bike riders or how does that work since you fell off your bike years ago?

I can pass a drug test, have not ridden a bicycle since 2004. Plus even if there are bike-rides I has them thar genetics, I don't think, given training and motivation, a 1200 total is that unobtainable at 198, or higher if I end up pushing back up to 210 or 215. I've pulled over 500 and benched over 300 under 200 lbs pre-bicycle and have never even touched a bench shirt or a squat suit let alone put one one.


I dont really know Jason, I dont know if theyre tested or as regulated as the US meets, or how big/popular they are in regards to being part of lifting associations or whether they literally are just 'meets'.

On topic of 'testing', i dont think the natural scene is all that big in england.

Out of the regulars, im pretty sure im the only natural lifter at my gym lol

Doesn't matter honestly... I never felt that tech massively increased my strength... just my size. If anything I feel like it hurt my bw to strength ratios as I gained size more quickly than strength compared to natty training. For example I probably only added 95 lbs to my deadlift from 3 years of bicycle riding but gained 65 lbs of bodyweight.

I think I will give it a shot, it gives me something fun and challenging to do, that could help make new friends, keep me focused and possibly help me with a bit of income if I want to do some PT work.

JasonDB
11-21-2011, 06:26 PM
Also... which 3 people voted: "No, you are a disabled phaggot!"? That hurted my feelings. :'-(

JeffyDOS
11-22-2011, 12:24 AM
do it phaggot

btw how would you even go about training for PL? what does a PL routine look like? just 5x5?

JasonDB
11-22-2011, 02:55 AM
do it phaggot

btw how would you even go about training for PL? what does a PL routine look like? just 5x5?

A complex subject with a great deal of conflicting theory.

ErickStevens
11-22-2011, 03:51 AM
How about just start lifting period? ;)

JasonDB
11-22-2011, 03:58 AM
How about just start lifting period? ;)

I do broseph. :D I've been at it hard again for a year at home... and am joining a gym at the start of the month after my move that actually has power racks and such. I'm looking at powerlifting as a motivational tool (people train harder when they are training for something) and for the potential socialization and networking it might allow for when moving to a new place.

adean1989
11-22-2011, 04:11 AM
I voted no you're disabled :D

Not exactly speaking from experience but I'm sure there's a market out there for person trainers whom can back up their training/nutrition philosophies through science and physique. I've been to a few gyms round London and the quality of personal training is unimaginably bad (think middle aged men/women forced to do endless low intensity core work), whether up market or working class I've yet to meet one particularly clued up trainer.

Lvisaa2
11-22-2011, 04:16 AM
Good luck with whatever you decide.

I tried to do some PT work, but I couldn't stand it. I don't want to have to motivate people to get into the gym and give effort. I'm all for pushing someone a little harder or giving them a more structured routine, but I don't want to be the sole reason they even come to the gym. My ideal client would be someone who actually cares and I'm simply assisting them along the way. I realized that wasn't realistic and have suspended doing training until I find people that suit that. If I do then I'd be happy to train them

ErickStevens
11-22-2011, 04:34 AM
If you can handle the schedule, being a PT is easy as fuk.