Hrt

[Nood]

looks like an awful routine

amirite??

[G Diesel]

looks like an awful routine

amirite??

I get it. I've always been skeptical about programs.

Talk to me man... What don't you like about it? What style or styles have you found to work for you?

I give you credit, at 15 had no real clue about training.

Peace, G

[spiderman997]

I get it. I've always been skeptical about programs.

Talk to me man... What don't you like about it? What style or styles have you found to work for you?

I give you credit, at 15 had no real clue about training.

Peace, GNo need to be condescending. OP squats 405x5 and deadlifts 445x5 at 15, so I doubt he 'has no real clue about training'. This program looks like a pretty generic 4 day split. Splits on the whole are pretty mediocre and I don't know why this merits a subsection.

[TreeTrunkLegs]

No need to be condescending. OP squats 405x5 and deadlifts 445x5 at 15, so I doubt he 'has no real clue about training'. This program looks like a pretty generic 4 day split. Splits on the whole are pretty mediocre and I don't know why this merits a subsection.

I dont think G meant it to be condescending at all. I think he was saying that at 15, he did not know anything about training. So he gives the OP credit for knowing so much and being able to decipher the good from the bad.

[Nood]

I get it. I've always been skeptical about programs.

Talk to me man... What don't you like about it? What style or styles have you found to work for you?

I give you credit, at 15 had no real clue about training.

Peace, G

well to be quite honest with you, i see nothing extra this program provides aside from doing extra negative reps. the split is pretty basic, the generic 4 day split that really anybody could think of, the only thing really this program has that other splits dont have is the +4 "hellcentric reps" and here the program is having its own sub section...

so you mean to tell me if i thought of doing +4 extra eccentric reps, i would haave an entire sub section for a program i created?

yeah, didnt think so (i'm sending a small message here, i hope i made it obvious)

another large thing that stuck out to me about this program was its lack of frequency...

http://forum.body-fitness.nl/The-inf...y-m500296.aspx



"Some evidence suggests that the training frequency has a large impact on the rate of gain in muscle volume for shorter periods of training."

"For hypertrophy, studies suggest that training two or three times per week is superior to training one time per week, even when volume is equal."


then you probably think you're too advanced, and you've been lifting a long time, so you need long recovery time?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16287373

this study basically has an ass ton of people, it shows the best gains are made lifting 3x a week (full body of some sort), then it moves to 2x a week and stays there, it doesnt drop down to 1x a week as u become more advanced....

there are also other small pieces of crap laying around, such as shrugs being with chest/shoulder when its apart of your back (lol), and some silly grammar mistakes (The Importance Of A Having A Partner In Crime), but im not trying to nitpick.

i also found it silly how the basic principles of hypertrophy werent even mentioned in the articles, AKA progressive overload, adding weight to the bar. it was really mostly just some article writer praising this "hellcentric" thing...

it really blows my mind how many people are going to fall for this crap, especially beginners, when this is the last program they need. i'm not trying to be a hater, but its really frustrating how a lot of this BS is published and marketed just because you're a supp company trying to make money, and dont deny it, thats really all you guys are really in it for. and please dont respond to this saying i really need to spend 30$ on a multivitamin to help make gains, especially if that multivitamin barely lasts a month...


I dont think G meant it to be condescending at all. I think he was saying that at 15, he did not know anything about training. So he gives the OP credit for knowing so much and being able to decipher the good from the bad.

i kind of doubt this because if this were correct, then he would be admitting that HRT is a bad program... and i dont think he means that.

[Chest-Rockwell]

well to be quite honest with you, i see nothing extra this program provides aside from doing extra negative reps. the split is pretty basic, the generic 4 day split that really anybody could think of, the only thing really this program has that other splits dont have is the +4 "hellcentric reps" and here the program is having its own sub section...

so you mean to tell me if i thought of doing +4 extra eccentric reps, i would haave an entire sub section for a program i created?

yeah, didnt think so (i'm sending a small message here, i hope i made it obvious)

another large thing that stuck out to me about this program was its lack of frequency...

http://forum.body-fitness.nl/The-inf...y-m500296.aspx



then you probably think you're too advanced, and you've been lifting a long time, so you need long recovery time?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16287373

this study basically has an ass ton of people, it shows the best gains are made lifting 3x a week (full body of some sort), then it moves to 2x a week and stays there, it doesnt drop down to 1x a week as u become more advanced....

there are also other small pieces of crap laying around, such as shrugs being with chest/shoulder when its apart of your back (lol), and some silly grammar mistakes (The Importance Of A Having A Partner In Crime), but im not trying to nitpick.

i also found it silly how the basic principles of hypertrophy werent even mentioned in the articles, AKA progressive overload, adding weight to the bar. it was really mostly just some article writer praising this "hellcentric" thing...

it really blows my mind how many people are going to fall for this crap, especially beginners, when this is the last program they need. i'm not trying to be a hater, but its really frustrating how a lot of this BS is published and marketed just because you're a supp company trying to make money, and dont deny it, thats really all you guys are really in it for. and please dont respond to this saying i really need to spend 30$ on a multivitamin to help make gains, especially if that multivitamin barely lasts a month...



i kind of doubt this because if this were correct, then he would be admitting that HRT is a bad program... and i dont think he means that.

this is why ur strong as ****

[G Diesel]

No need to be condescending. OP squats 405x5 and deadlifts 445x5 at 15, so I doubt he 'has no real clue about training'. This program looks like a pretty generic 4 day split. Splits on the whole are pretty mediocre and I don't know why this merits a subsection.


I dont think G meant it to be condescending at all. I think he was saying that at 15, he did not know anything about training. So he gives the OP credit for knowing so much and being able to decipher the good from the bad.

Honestly I wasn't being condescending at all, but sincere. I had no clue about any kind of advanced training methodologies when I was 15 years old, let alone moving that kind of weight.

Dissent, critical analysis and varied viewpoints are always welcome. In all truthfulness, we'd like to do what we can to contribute to the lifestyle and help those we interact with to achieve their goals. I guess there is no better form of Marketing than that.

As for the merits of HRT, Tom "Rage" Fuller, a part of the Animal family, developed HRT on his own to address shortcomings in his training--basically taking proven styles, tweaking, combining and adding to them to develop his own technique, which he has proven to be quite effective thus far. BB.com and Animal have come together to shed light on his method, to help spread it to guys who are looking for something fresh and challenging to help them continue to progress. HRT might not be for everybody--just like 5/3/1, FST-7, Heavy Duty and the like, but odds are there is something in the program that could benefit any bodybuilder looking to make gains.

Peace, G

[spiderman997]

As for the merits of HRT, Tom "Rage" Fuller, a part of the Animal family, developed HRT on his own to address shortcomings in his training--basically taking proven styles, tweaking, combining and adding to them to develop his own technique, which he has proven to be quite effective thus far. Fancy way of saying he took a 4 day split and added a few eccentric reps to it.

[rabidelmo]

just wondering if hrt is worth to switch to or just stick with my routine i am doing now? will it make any difference? i am currently doing a 3 day split by brit_beef

[rockwood51]

just wondering if hrt is worth to switch to or just stick with my routine i am doing now? will it make any difference? i am currently doing a 3 day split by brit_beef

The only way for you to know that is to grab a partner you trust and try it out for yourself. As mentioned elsewhere, HRT isn't for everyone but it's working for a lot of people in here. Give it a fair shake and try it for a month or so. I'll bet you you'll be willing to stick it out for the full 12 weeks to see what really happens.