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Officer Iron
02-12-2002, 11:42 AM
The following is information on either laws or theories on how to successfully arrest and prosecute the crime of possession of or the delivery of steroids. It is based on my personnel experiences or the experience of other officers the ONLY difference is the cases WERE NOT steroids, it would of been marijuana, Methamphetamine or Cocaine.

1. The one that has the most possibilities for the highest number of arrests and prosecutions is Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity, the reason I believe this is possible is it only takes three people involved in the same crime on more than one occasion to fall in this category, and the punishment is ONE HIGHER than the original charge had in not been organized crime, so a Second degree felony just bumped UP to a first degree. To make this case the ones most at risk would be the MODS. If a Mod or anyone was to recommend a source they are in fact supporting that source and facilitating the crime by connecting the two other parties. This is used A LOT in other drug cases, if I was to wont Cocaine and someone introduced me to the dealer knowing what I wonted then they are now a part of the crime. Same applies when you have a lot of people dealing with one source and they are all connected in some way, I do not believe a bulletin board would support that nexus
HOWEVER what certain people post could draw them into it, if you posted and purchased and helped others do the same you run the Possibility.

2. The signature thing is not going to save you, with or without a signature a case can still be done against you, don’t let anyone BS you it can be the beginning of major problems.

3. If a person was to get popped his PC would contain a wealth of information and deleting it does not keep it from being recovered I have seen items five years old be recovered from a hard drive.

4. Your E-mail is still alive and well at your ISP’s for sometime after even you delete it a subpoena will provide every piece of information on you needed.

I hope this information helps you in making a decision.

* Officer Iron *

IME
02-12-2002, 12:32 PM
Bump! Good wealth of knowledge from Officer Iron. Thanx for educating bro!

Kane
02-12-2002, 12:45 PM
Good post OI. Although the laws vary slightly from state to state you'd still be looking at some serious charges and the possibility of jail time. No matter how secure you think your computer is remember anything can get hacked. Most big law enforcement agencies have people on their payroll that do nothing but that. They can get into just about any pc and any info they retrieve regarding illegal activities will be admissible in court.
Some people consider this a game especially since they can get on the net, go to board such as this one and discuss AAS openly. If you get busted, you risk losing everything you have and or everything you hope to have in the future.
If you think you'll get off by snitching think twice about it. You may stay out of jail but if you think you're safe because no one you turned in really knows who you are you're wrong. If someone really wants to find out who you are and where you live they can. You may end up having to keep looking over your shoulder for a very long time.

IME
02-12-2002, 12:52 PM
A-Men to that....One word for you "Sword-fish." Never think you're invincible. The moment you do, is the moment it could all come around.

SHOT
02-12-2002, 12:57 PM
good post we need more info liek this

02-12-2002, 01:12 PM
great post officer!

gotgrowth
02-13-2002, 05:45 AM
Officer Iron, you are right about the PC. When you delete a file, you are not really deleting it, you are deleting the reference to that file. It will always be accessible until you overwrite that area of your hard drive.

There is one thing you can do if you are that worried when a source gets busted. You can buy a System utility (i.e. Norton Utilities) and run a program called “Government Wipe”. This will overwrite your hard drive 3 times, making it useless. Of course, after doing this you would have to re-load Windows and your other programs. This is what we use before sending our equipment out for donations.

Hobbit_Boy
02-13-2002, 08:50 AM
No, even overwriting it 3 times isnt secure. DOD specs are 7 times for their machines, my program does it NINE times. The program I have also "secures" the free space (re-writes over it 9 times) also. It takes FOREVER but it's "pretty safe"..It also deltes all the AIM logs of who I've talked to.

The safest thing would be to literally destroy the hard drive physcially. The DOD/FBI/CIA can use electron microscopes to retrieve bits of data here and there.

The feds can also now pick up the RF signals of your computer, the monitor is the notorious "leaky" part. The feds can actually see what is on your monitor supposedly 7 blocks away, but up to one block reliably. Bulding a cage of conductive material such as gold or coper for your computer is the only known sollution. The feds can also read the RF from your power cables.

Anytime you go on the net you expose yourself, there is no way aroud this. You bros that are actually "in" the game might want to invest in a utility to 256 bit encrypt your HD (military strength) AND have it removable so you can hide it in a "safe place" when not in use.

You could also rig up a powerfull electron magnet to the hard drive and wire a button to it...when they come a knocking, press the button and let the power fly, *ZAP* no more hard drive.

Be carefull guys...they know more than you possibly can imagine.

budman68
02-13-2002, 09:17 AM
an easy way to do it:

1.msdos Prompt
2. Format C:\

Good News: Say good bye to everything on your hard drive
Bad News: Say good bye to everything on your hard drive

gotgrowth
02-13-2002, 09:38 AM
I guess they are always a step ahead.

Hobbit_Boy
02-13-2002, 11:27 AM
Budman, do not be fooled. The ONLY way -- I mean this -- IS TG PHYSICALY DESTROY THE HARD DRIVE. There have even been cases where a HD was recovered after beeing shot with a .45

The gov. has special hacker nerds and super computers with software so sophisticated, it's impossible to ever really clean your hard drive by software means. It can be *sorta* safe...but not totally.

The feds could also now under the new anti-terrorism bill send you a trojan with a keystroke recorder, thus recording everything you have typed on your computer. Unless you were an "elite" hacker you would never know of it's presence. Make sure you have a good anti-virus program and an airtight firewall...also do not accept emails from people you don't know.

I have to protect myself because im on a college campus, there are many "pseudo" nerds here that love to reek havok on other people's computers. I have to really protect my computer to keep it from being f*cked with...if these "nerds" can **** with you badly, think of what a government funded operation could do.

02-13-2002, 12:40 PM
bump

MrTechno
02-13-2002, 01:55 PM
Very good, I am impressed.........

Hobbit_Boy
02-13-2002, 02:12 PM
I wish i was more of a nerd...I would LOVE to work in the computer security industry..maybe even for the government. That would a blast. You would have acess to top technology that civillians can't even use.

Im a history major, but at present i find myself thinking about computer security and sports nutrition at the same time. Maybe work for biotest's computer dept?! LOL LOL

BEEFCAKE
02-13-2002, 02:19 PM
Sounds pretty scary. Just a question, keeping in mind that i work for a Global IT company, if the government can retrieve all this deleted informationfrom your hard drive, how come my HelpDesk people can't do anything ?? I've had to retrive stuff before when HDD's at work have crashed, half the time they can't get diddly squat out of them. I would hope that whatever the government could do, a massive Global IT company could do aswell seeing as we created the stuff in the frist place.

Not flaming anyone or anything i'm just curious, I believe the email thing on the ISP's but as far as the HDD's go, i'm just a bit dubious as to how effective the retrieving can be. I've done it myself, had tech guys do it but most of the time on a crashed HDD most of the info is lost. I would figure shooting the drive with a gun would be more detrimental to the info stored, is this actually true about the gun bit ?? Maybe they just got extremely lucky ???

Officer Iron
02-14-2002, 07:26 AM
It is my UNDERSTANDING from watching these guys that they can get complete files that were just deleted andn then the older the deleted file the lass they can get, they might only get part of the file, when it comes to pictures it is better the main cases I have been involved in were Child exploration cases. as for e-mial files deleted I dont know.

* Officer Iron *

IME
02-14-2002, 08:41 AM
BUMP!!

budman68
03-04-2002, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Hobbit_Boy
Budman, do not be fooled. The ONLY way -- I mean this -- IS TG PHYSICALY DESTROY THE HARD DRIVE. There have even been cases where a HD was recovered after beeing shot with a .45

The gov. has special hacker nerds and super computers with software so sophisticated, it's impossible to ever really clean your hard drive by software means. It can be *sorta* safe...but not totally.

The feds could also now under the new anti-terrorism bill send you a trojan with a keystroke recorder, thus recording everything you have typed on your computer. Unless you were an "elite" hacker you would never know of it's presence. Make sure you have a good anti-virus program and an airtight firewall...also do not accept emails from people you don't know.

I have to protect myself because im on a college campus, there are many "pseudo" nerds here that love to reek havok on other people's computers. I have to really protect my computer to keep it from being f*cked with...if these "nerds" can **** with you badly, think of what a government funded operation could do.


You are probably right on this because I have heard of instances like this myself. But Thats if they really want your ass (alot of time and money to recover a drive like that). Being in the DB workforce I can tell you this though...Once that memory address has been filled with new data, the old memory that was recently there is almost impossible to recover. So actually, if one was to format the drive then overwrite the memory addresses with new material, it is close to impossible to recover data that was erased from that sector. But you would have to fill the capacity of the drive with random data to be 100% sure each and every address is filled.
But, the other option is gauranteed..:D (Could always install a "Mission Impossible" device on the side of the computer.."this will self-destruct in 3 seconds" LOL)

ctgblue
03-04-2002, 09:15 AM
One bit of advice you could give some of the people is at what quantity does law enforcement decide to go after an individual.
IE a single user 8-10 week stack . Is it REALLY worth the time and manpower?
OR
Is it more like the shipments of 50/100 amps of these, and 50/100 amps of those, and 1000 pills of this, etc...
I'm sure that anyone who would consider mail ordering this stuff for personal use would or should be smart/paranoid enough not to order a ton at a time.
Your input???

Officer Iron
03-04-2002, 11:12 AM
There is always a chance you could be jacked with a very small amount, however most agencies have limits and now the Lab's are setting limits so if it is a small amout chances are you would never be targated, however if you are stopped and a consent to search on your vehicle is obtained then you will take the ride no matter how small. Most all Roids are done in weight so look back at my old posts and I have them all listed with Penalty group and weights. Hope this helps

* Officer Iron *

alfman
03-04-2002, 11:44 AM
You can download Zone Alarm for a good firewall, it is at www.zonelabs.com . I use it and it rocks.

Mitosis
03-04-2002, 03:16 PM
eh go domestic.....

dnoel
03-04-2002, 04:41 PM
Hobbit_Boy: i have wet dreams at night about working for the cia in the computer security area (i'm a comp. sci major).... but dude.... those guys only take the best of the best of the best of the best... i think i'll have to settle with dreaming about it =(

phillyrollin
02-17-2003, 11:06 AM
I really doubt it would be used in a steroid case unless it were a major source but some agencies can PHYSICALLY inspect the drive outside of the machine and have tools to piece by piece get the data off of the drive in whatever fragments they can, I have seen accounts of them getting 70% of the data off a machine that went down in an office fire, it can be done but not with simple software tools.

jcaballplaya77
03-02-2003, 11:15 PM
Wow incredible they can take over all your info on your comp. That makes me weary

Johnny Cut
03-06-2003, 05:05 PM
keep a 5lb magnet next to your comp, that is the only way to completely erase incriminating info

littlestrongman
03-12-2003, 10:25 AM
completely rewriting over any memory block will remove all previous info ENTIRELY!

formating your c drive will not work, nor will most erasing programs, or simply deleting the files.
this is because computer info is stored as bits of magnetic info(negative or positive-1 or 0) and these bits are seperated into blocks on your computer. erasing a file or formating your drive only erases the first tiny bit of each of these blocks, the computer doesnt read any further and hence finds the block empty(free memory)...the thing is, most of the file is still there, thats how the feds get it...they have programs that look past the first bit of each block.

ANY program that completely erases or rewrites ALL the bits in every selected block will render all previously stored info unaccessible to ANYONE...because it is not there! and it need only be run once.

AMDEZ
04-17-2003, 02:02 PM
simple case...take the hard drive...take it to a nearby trash site. AND CHUCK THAT MOTHER****ER AS FAR AS YOU CAN THROW...

Then burn any evidence of you visiting the trash site...

If push comes to shove...take the hard drive. get a water proof container bury it in lime :D

Or you could take each indivdual hard drive wafer (the big silikon thingy) take it to your local forge and melt the ****er.

Winds2930
04-23-2003, 03:11 PM
Little more info on avoiding getting busted

1) Never keep source info/cycle info on your computer. Keep that **** saved in emails (even if you gotta write them to yourself) on a secure email server that is not located in the US (so it can not be subpoenaed).

2) DO NOT cookie your password to bulletin boards, I'm guilty of this myself sometimes. It just is easier....but if your computer is confiscated, you are ****ed, they can read your PM's, etc.

3) Delete PM's everyday.

4) Never talk about anything relating to sources or your purchases unless it is via secure email or secure PM's (and I'd still say delete the PM's ASAP). This includes talking on your cell phone to a buddy.

5) Always keep a completely clean house when receiving. This includes old empty vials, amp breaker, needles etc. even though needles are not illegal in most states, it still shows a link.

6) Never consent to a search, even if they have a warrant. I mean you must allow them in or you will get your ass beat. But when they show up simply say "I will allow you in, but I do not consent to this search." This holds them to only search the places in which are specified in the search warrant. If you consent or don't say anything (which can be taken as consent) then they can search anywhere they damn please. If they do search everywhere anyways, you might be able to use it later.

7) If you happened to get pulled over in your car with **** on you, obviously don't consent to a search. If they arrest you and impound you car, make sure you say you wish to waive the inventory check they do. Not positive you can waive it successfully, but I know police get around you not giving consent to a search by impounding your car. Then taking "inventory" of your car so you can't claim they stole **** later.

8) If you get popped keep your god damn mouth shut. No explanations, no denial, nothing. Just ask to speak to your lawyer. THAT'S IT!

9) Don't be a pussy ass bitch and rat out others to save your own ass. Remember snitches get stitches.

10) Above all, don't let people know about your usage unless they have to. The more people that know, the more chances someone might make an anonymous tip that might bring your ass down.

11) If you insist on keeping **** on your hard drive, get a removable hard drive, so you can smash that **** if you need to in a pinch.

12) Use PGP. It's an easy software program to use and free. PGP wipe is good to make sure you deleted **** STAYS deleted and can't be recovered later. PGP encryption is great and is very hard to crack if not impossible if you use the highest levels of encryption.

13) Don't openly talk about when you are expecting a package. If you are being watched it just makes you more easily taken down.

Steel Chicken
05-30-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by littlestrongman
completely rewriting over any memory block will remove all previous info ENTIRELY!

ANY program that completely erases or rewrites ALL the bits in every selected block will render all previously stored info unaccessible to ANYONE...because it is not there! and it need only be run once.

I dont know gear, but I know computers. Youre wrong. Heres why.

Harddrives store data with magnetic fields on a ferro-magnetic sruface. The actual data is read as either off, or on (bits) but when you write a series of bits to a hard drive the actual magnetic field strength is analog. When each bit is erased (set to 0 for example) the actual piece of ferro magnetic material is NOT set to zero field strength, it is set to something FAR below what the threshold for 1 is, but still above zero. What does this mean? For your average user its erased, for someone in the government with super bucks and machines that can read even the faintest of magnetic fields stored on a hard drive, they know whats there-- erased or not. There are few ways to safely erase data on a hard drive.

MULTIPLE (like more than 5) writes of every sector alternating between 0 and 1 which hides any trace of leftover magentic imprints.

COMPLETE destruction of the drive. Fire will not do it. Sledgehammer will not do it. Only complete meltdown or destruction into millions of peices totally seperated and thrown away.

A magnetic field so strong that the entire drive is magnetized so strongly nothing can be read. We are talking multiple orders of magnitude more power than whats normally used by the read/write head.

A total meltdown in super strong acid would do it too.

Another level of security would to be use harddrive level encryption, such as in the OpenBSD OS, or hardware solutions for windows.

Billy Poe
08-16-2003, 11:58 PM
Why is it that some people can find doctors that will give you a perscriptoin for these drugs and some cannot?Surely everyone does not get this stuff illegally?Whats the catch?

GNT
08-17-2003, 04:56 AM
Yo steel chicken how about an EMP from a baby nuke!
Well with such a strong EM burst, your HD is history( as well is with the rest of your electronic equipment).

Anyway let's get a little bit serious...

You're right about your ways to render a HD useless. I wouldn't rely that much on software to protect my data. You must realize that even the most sophisticated, military grade, encryption algorithms are pseudorandom. This means that there STILL IS A CHANCE of obtaining the key in finite time. But the the agencies interested will jointly use their myltimillion $ supercomps to drastically reduce the time to decrypt your data.

The moral is: If you think that you're going to be busted, then make a useful use of the size and strenght the juice gave you and smash your HD using certain construction tools. You know hitting sth hard with a hammer makes an excellent forearm workout!

irish_2003
09-08-2003, 04:13 PM
How about having an alternate hard drive to install when your gear work is complete? I'm sure you all can find creative ways to hide the important one.

Shadow_Hunter
01-21-2004, 02:52 PM
I would like to know of the realistic chances of getting busted if you are only ordering enough for one 10-12 week cycle......i'm a newbie to Roids, and i am curious about the risks....if's it's that dangerous then why are ther so many users.... i'm only 19 and i can not afford to get busted for a felony,, i want to go to school, but i want to grow to.....another thing .... EDITED

NO ASKING FOR SOURCES....DO IT AGAIN AND YOU WILL BE BANNED, READ THE RULES (Sticky'd in the steroid forum)

Officer Iron
01-21-2004, 06:59 PM
Welcome Shadow, I sww you brought back an old legal thread of mine, It hasnt changed much since then. to try and answer your questions, ill break them down.

1. If you walk across a street you stand a chance to getting hit by a car, the same applies here, alot would depend on the what,when,where and who the connection was with. Is there a chance, YES will it happen who knows.

2. The danger thing, thats a big can of worms and everyone has their own OP, I can say Im not a DR. but used right they are alot less dangerous then smoking or drinking and driving. Owe yea and politics are big into it, just dont bring up BUSH or all hell will break loose again today on him and Roids. ( past post from yeaterday)

3. Your age is not a issue its your entire life, so 19 or 91 no one needs to catch a felony over roids, check the state you live in and see what they are in your state.

4. I am sure its legal to show links if thats your question, however I wouldnt buy ANY RX from a web site, you will get bunk **** and loose your money.

5. Good Luck and spend some time around here, you will get a better idea of how it all works.

Officer Iron

Shadow_Hunter
01-22-2004, 09:57 AM
Thanks alot for the info... i thought about it alot last night and weighed all the risks, i think if i chose to use i will wait untill i reach my full potential....Oh and one other thing i'v been reading all of the threads but i have no clue on what some of the thing you guys are talking about......If some one will help with all the steriod lingo that would be great, i.e. 'whinny' 'RX' etc.

Officer Iron
01-22-2004, 10:13 AM
Go to the steroid info done by I think BIg Cat, it will tell ya about the roids names , etc. as for the rest when you see on just ask. Also read the sticky's at the top if you havnt it will keep ya from getting flamed.

Good Luck,

Officer Iron

kj2833
01-25-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by BEEFCAKE
Sounds pretty scary. Just a question, keeping in mind that i work for a Global IT company, if the government can retrieve all this deleted informationfrom your hard drive, how come my HelpDesk people can't do anything ?? I've had to retrive stuff before when HDD's at work have crashed, half the time they can't get diddly squat out of them. I would hope that whatever the government could do, a massive Global IT company could do aswell seeing as we created the stuff in the frist place.

Not flaming anyone or anything i'm just curious, I believe the email thing on the ISP's but as far as the HDD's go, i'm just a bit dubious as to how effective the retrieving can be. I've done it myself, had tech guys do it but most of the time on a crashed HDD most of the info is lost. I would figure shooting the drive with a gun would be more detrimental to the info stored, is this actually true about the gun bit ?? Maybe they just got extremely lucky ???

the problem is most of the time a company isnt willing to spend the kind of money it takes to do a forensic style recovery. They can take the platters or disc areas out and read them even if they are shattered. there will still be usable information. no one is willing to spend big money to retrieve john from cubicle fives report, i mean **** him, let him retype that ****. if you really worked at a "global it company" you would think you would have a whole room full of back up drives. hell the new windows server lets the workers retrieve backups from the server on their own.

edit: also when a hard drive crashes it is usually motor failure, taking the guts out reveals all.

MTT
05-15-2004, 07:40 AM
uhm,. I dont know about most of you, but, all of the libraries around my area have these computers with internet access, so if you where to use one and a free e-mail (hotmail) with a fake name and dont use a credit card,. I think the chances of anyone tracing it back to you are next to none. And what about web tv`s n such that dont have a hard drive. Im not an expert, just throwin out ideas

grb2000
09-09-2004, 08:02 PM
What about encrypted email like hushmail, cyber rights, etc.... Can they get the emails that were sent there, received, stored?

GRB2000

Officer Iron
09-10-2004, 07:54 AM
What about encrypted email like hushmail, cyber rights, etc.... Can they get the emails that were sent there, received, stored?

GRB2000

Hushmail is a Canadian owned Company with its servers in San Domingo so the US Laws cant touch it because it is out of country. They are in my OP one of the best, ZIPLIP is a US company in California so it would be subject to American laws. A tool that one needs is " McAfee Visual trace" great tool just put in a web address and it tells you everything about it with a real neet node map so you can also see what conutry it ends at.

Officer Iron

grb2000
09-10-2004, 09:06 AM
Hushmail is a Canadian owned Company with its servers in San Domingo so the US Laws cant touch it because it is out of country. They are in my OP one of the best, ZIPLIP is a US company in California so it would be subject to American laws. A tool that one needs is " McAfee Visual trace" great tool just put in a web address and it tells you everything about it with a real neet node map so you can also see what conutry it ends at.

Officer Iron



Thank you for the clarification Office Iron.

GRB2000

bluehazard
09-15-2004, 10:18 PM
Sounds pretty scary. Just a question, keeping in mind that i work for a Global IT company, if the government can retrieve all this deleted informationfrom your hard drive, how come my HelpDesk people can't do anything ?? I've had to retrive stuff before when HDD's at work have crashed, half the time they can't get diddly squat out of them. I would hope that whatever the government could do, a massive Global IT company could do aswell seeing as we created the stuff in the frist place.

Not flaming anyone or anything i'm just curious, I believe the email thing on the ISP's but as far as the HDD's go, i'm just a bit dubious as to how effective the retrieving can be. I've done it myself, had tech guys do it but most of the time on a crashed HDD most of the info is lost. I would figure shooting the drive with a gun would be more detrimental to the info stored, is this actually true about the gun bit ?? Maybe they just got extremely lucky ???

It's done in what's called a "White Room". It's a completely and totally clean room, the hdd is physically disassembled, and the surface of each disc of the drive is run under a few different scanners. It's very expensive, time consuming, and won't yield 100% of every file. But they don't need 100% of every file. A few good "hits" of the data they need are enough supporting evidence.

b_montalban
10-13-2004, 06:59 PM
I dont know gear, but I know computers. Youre wrong. Heres why.

Harddrives store data with magnetic fields on a ferro-magnetic sruface. The actual data is read as either off, or on (bits) but when you write a series of bits to a hard drive the actual magnetic field strength is analog. When each bit is erased (set to 0 for example) the actual piece of ferro magnetic material is NOT set to zero field strength, it is set to something FAR below what the threshold for 1 is, but still above zero. What does this mean? For your average user its erased, for someone in the government with super bucks and machines that can read even the faintest of magnetic fields stored on a hard drive, they know whats there-- erased or not. There are few ways to safely erase data on a hard drive.

MULTIPLE (like more than 5) writes of every sector alternating between 0 and 1 which hides any trace of leftover magentic imprints.

COMPLETE destruction of the drive. Fire will not do it. Sledgehammer will not do it. Only complete meltdown or destruction into millions of peices totally seperated and thrown away.

A magnetic field so strong that the entire drive is magnetized so strongly nothing can be read. We are talking multiple orders of magnitude more power than whats normally used by the read/write head.

A total meltdown in super strong acid would do it too.

Another level of security would to be use harddrive level encryption, such as in the OpenBSD OS, or hardware solutions for windows.

bump on that.. im not too familiar with the openbsd, or h/s.. ill have to look into it,, but steel is right.. best bet honestly for the average user is to chuck it in the river nowhere to be found.. forget about formatting blah blah blah you can do that 1k x's over and still get data off it.. it runs in the thousands of dollars for recovery, but the feds will take no shorcuts to prosecute and make you the scapegoat..if you that deep in the game and not a pc whiz, keep important info on paper, no digital records AT ALL!.. burn the **** as needed. no way to read ashes :cool:

bluehazard
10-14-2004, 12:40 PM
bump on that.. im not too familiar with the openbsd, or h/s.. ill have to look into it,, but steel is right.. best bet honestly for the average user is to chuck it in the river nowhere to be found.. forget about formatting blah blah blah you can do that 1k x's over and still get data off it.. it runs in the thousands of dollars for recovery, but the feds will take no shorcuts to prosecute and make you the scapegoat..if you that deep in the game and not a pc whiz, keep important info on paper, no digital records AT ALL!.. burn the **** as needed. no way to read ashes :cool:

It depends on the crime. No shortcuts will be taken to get rid of a child molester. Those guys will basically always have their **** analyzed. If they only find you with a small cycle, they probably don't want to spend the money to have a rewritten drive checked.

KILLDISK isn't bad either. You can DL a copy for free. Free version runs off of a floppy. It only rewrites sectors once, but you can rerun it a bunch of times if you want. I use it at work to clear off HDD's before reinstalling an OS.

TrueWarrior1
10-14-2004, 01:07 PM
hard drive + microwave = no hard drive.

bluehazard
10-14-2004, 01:09 PM
hard drive + microwave = no hard drive.

Yeah, but it could also = no more microwave and burning house. I guess if you wanted to take apart the whole damn thing, and shove the platters in the microwave for 1-2 second bursts it would be ok, but I wouldn't put the whole HDD in there, too much metal.

dYNAMIC Ez
11-15-2004, 01:33 AM
Look, I have to tell you guys that the goverment really does not care to much about steroid use. They are more concered with street drugs like cocaine and xstecy ect. The CIA and FBI have more important things to worry about than whats on your computer. I mean common if they tryed to go after every guy whos doing roids they would go broke and look stupid. As long as you are not a dealer of roids and when i say dealer i mean 30lbs more of anadrol,test cyp,d-bol,winstrol,ghb than what you use. Their focus right now is on terrorism. Unless you have a lot of bad stuff about your roid shipments and porn and fraudulent credit card numbers, then dont worry. The best way to get rid of something on your computer is to never put is on there in the first place. Paranoid? No Why? Because theirs no reason to be.