West Coast Roasting Company

[poison]

Guatemala La Folie = chocolate covered cherries!

[poison]

Anyone feel like helping out?

www.missionsmallbusiness.com

I have 89 votes, and 11 days to get 161 more.

409 votes, and 2 days to go!! :D

[dsade]

409 votes, and 2 days to go!! :DYou got my attention with your blueberry notes facebook post. I miss the Dara...let me know how the new Ethiopian goes.

[poison]

You got my attention with your blueberry notes facebook post. I miss the Dara...let me know how the new Ethiopian goes.

It's outstanding! Intense fruitiness throughout, with strong blueberry and gentle lemon notes, it's right up your alley, dsade. It's probably the best one since the idido misty valley a couple years ago...

[ajvitan]

It's outstanding! Intense fruitiness throughout, with strong blueberry and gentle lemon notes, it's right up your alley, dsade. It's probably the best one since the idido misty valley a couple years ago...

WTF! Guatemala La Folie - I'm sipping on a cup for my pre run stim. I"ll chase it with body octane and clout but.. WOW chocolately...touch of cherry....mind blown. Great job man..wow my tastebuds are blown away. Sooo good in the frenchy press :D Thanks!

[poison]

You got my attention with your blueberry notes facebook post. I miss the Dara...let me know how the new Ethiopian goes.

Arrived today, and online!

[poison]

WTF! Guatemala La Folie - I'm sipping on a cup for my pre run stim. I"ll chase it with body octane and clout but.. WOW chocolately...touch of cherry....mind blown. Great job man..wow my tastebuds are blown away. Sooo good in the frenchy press :D Thanks!

Excellent, thank you for the feedback! :D

[poison]

'GRATITUDE' is $5 off. :)

[dsade]

I used my Gratitude discount last Friday to pick up some of the new Ethiopean! Should be here today...can't wait.

[KingItalia]

Posion...What are your thoughts on the Silvia paired with the Rocky grinder? Worth the extra $$ or go with the Gaggia Classic and Baratza.

[poison]

Posion...What are your thoughts on the Silvia paired with the Rocky grinder? Worth the extra $$ or go with the Gaggia Classic and Baratza.

AHHHH, NONONO!

I owned silvia for 4 years, and have a deep seated hatred for that hussy. Biggest cause of frustration and pain ever. Here's why: an espresso machine has two jobs, namely to heat water to the proper temp, and deliver it to the coffee at the correct pressure.

Silvia does neither.

She is so inconsistent its ridiculous. Sure, Silvia's best shot may be better than Gaggia's, but you'll never be able to reproduce it again on purpose. Gaggia's are much easier to pull quality shots consistently, and they have other bonuses: small aluminum boilers which heat fast in the morning; boiler heating elements outside the boiler so they won't burn out if the boiler is low on water (which can happen with Silvia).

So buy a Gaggia, or a $1200 HX. There's nothing worthwhile in between.

Grinders: The two best budget espresso grinders are the Baratza Preciso, and revamped Cunill Tranquilo. Both are better than Rocky. The Cunill has some pretty neat features for the price, like electronic dosing.

Let me know if you need more help, and if you ever want a good HX machine, I can get you a deal on the best in class HX.

[dsade]

Update on the Ethiopia Yirgacheffe #1 Wote Konga....This is a singularly unique bean and roast. I combine this with (shut up) a Columbian-heavy breakfast blend that I am impressed with from Sam's Club. I used about 25 beans to 60 of the BB into the burr grinder. Water hit about 200 degrees. Poured the grind into the French Press and added water. Stirred it for about 4 minutes.

Beautiful chocolate bronze color. Flavor is very complex, and can be overwhelming on its own (based on past experience with the Ethiopians) but was perfect in the blend. Most cominant note is the expected blueberry, but with a twist. It reminds me of blueberry mixed into fresh whipped light cream. There is a hint of vanilla, very slight citrus note, and oddly enough an almost undetectable dash of tobacco that enhances the baritone notes. Bright fruity and deep all at the same time, this is definitely one of the top cups of coffee I have ever had.

http://www.westcoastroasting.com/ethiopia-yirgacheffe-1-wote-konga/

[poison]

Excellent, glad it's up to snuff!

A customer contacted me on the 3rd of july about sending coffee to some troops, his treat. I asked around for a suitable apo recipient on a military forum, and in the process, someone else ponied up for 2 more lbs. Here's what the package looked like today when I sent it out:

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/muraal1/IMG_20120710_150028.jpg

**** yeah! Thanks linda and damien, and thanks to our troops!

[dsade]

Can you add a "donate" function to order checkout, say $1 to send coffee to the troops?

[KingItalia]

AHHHH, NONONO!

I owned silvia for 4 years, and have a deep seated hatred for that hussy. Biggest cause of frustration and pain ever. Here's why: an espresso machine has two jobs, namely to heat water to the proper temp, and deliver it to the coffee at the correct pressure.

Silvia does neither.

She is so inconsistent its ridiculous. Sure, Silvia's best shot may be better than Gaggia's, but you'll never be able to reproduce it again on purpose. Gaggia's are much easier to pull quality shots consistently, and they have other bonuses: small aluminum boilers which heat fast in the morning; boiler heating elements outside the boiler so they won't burn out if the boiler is low on water (which can happen with Silvia).

So buy a Gaggia, or a $1200 HX. There's nothing worthwhile in between.

Grinders: The two best budget espresso grinders are the Baratza Preciso, and revamped Cunill Tranquilo. Both are better than Rocky. The Cunill has some pretty neat features for the price, like electronic dosing.

Let me know if you need more help, and if you ever want a good HX machine, I can get you a deal on the best in class HX.

I'm hearing this more and more now.
Thanks for your honesty.

So much info to read and go through before I make this purchase. Who do you recommend, brand wise, for an HX machine?

edit: I can get The Gaggia Classic paired with a Barazta Virtuoso Preciso for 650 shipped. May just have to.

[poison]

I'm hearing this more and more now.
Thanks for your honesty.

I can't stress enough: avoid Silvia. I freaking hate her.


So much info to read and go through before I make this purchase. Who do you recommend, brand wise, for an HX machine?

Astra Pro. There's very little info out there on it, but it's where I put my money. I've owned gaggias, Silvia, an expobar Pulser, and now the Astra, and there's simply no comparison. You'd have to spend $800 more to get the Astra's equal. Here's why she's better:

Made in the USA
Excellent customer service from Astra
All stainless construction, including frame
Whopping 2.6l stainless steel boiler, by far the biggest in its class
Beefy Sirai pressurestat
English pipe fittings (screwed, NOT soldered)
Commercial grade water pump
Outstanding performance in a compact, beautiful design

The bottom line is that Astra uses the same components in ALL their machines, from their $15k 4 group machine down to the $1200 Pro (with size reductions where needed). No other manufacturer is making a machine of this quality for less than $2000. Why is it cheaper? Because it's made in the US, not Europe. I've been in the factory and watched these old guys putting them together by hand, seen inside them, and paid my own cold hard cash for one. You'll never need to buy another machine, and you can be sure this machine will not be holding you back. I've served espresso drinks for 2 hours straight on mine, no problem. It's a steam monster because of the boiler size.

They also have the Gourmet model, which has a 4.x liter boiler, and a rotary pump, with manual or semi-auto options, and pour-over or plumbed in options. Thing is obviously bigger than the Pro, but it IS a commercial machine on the level of a $4k Elektra, for $1500 less.



edit: I can get The Gaggia Classic paired with a Barazta Virtuoso Preciso for 650 shipped. May just have to.

IF you buy a Gaggia, don't buy a Classic. Every gaggia is the same, internally; compared to the $200 Pure or Color, the Classic gets you a snazzier exterior and a 3 way solenoid...that's it. The piping, wiring, pump, boiler, pressurestat, etc, are all 100% the same. So buy a Pure or Color, or an Astra Pro.

[poison]

http://coffeegeek.com/images/43928/astra2.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/180083_10150091828995669_167594755668_6321001_5204 736_n.jpg
.....

[poison]

Can you add a "donate" function to order checkout, say $1 to send coffee to the troops?

I've thought about it, but more for steering additional funds toward our primary charity, the International Medical Corps. If you didn't know, we make regular donations to the IMC, $.25/lb of coffee sold. :)

[StrongRepublican]

This thread has definitely changed my coffee drinking experience for the best!

[poison]

I'm happy to help!

[gachase21]

I'm happy to help!
I knew you were trying to help us
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/newsplus/hsph-studies-connect-coffee-to-protection-against-heart-failure-skin-cancer/

[poison]

Oh yeah, coffee has many benefits. :)

[poison]

I can get the Colombia Cup of Excellence #1 coffee, $80 for 12oz. I can also get Jamaica Blue Mountain, $45 for 12oz, both in small quantities. Anyone interested.

No? Bunch o cheapskates! :p

[PuZo]

I can get the Colombia Cup of Excellence #1 coffee, $80 for 12oz. I can also get Jamaica Blue Mountain, $45 for 12oz, both in small quantities. Anyone interested.

No? Bunch o cheapskates! :p

I sent PM, you no reply.

[poison]

Resend.

[PuZo]

Resend.

Ha, I'm not falling for that again ;)

[poison]

What, the old 'order coffee, but get coffee + samples' routine? ;)

[StrongRepublican]

Poison, I've been drinking dark roasts lately over the past few weeks - Sumatra and Gold Coast @ Starbucks (only place there is around here) and I've decided the darker the better (for me).

I will back home in under a week and I need beans for the house. Recommendations?

[poison]

Java kopi sunda and colombia tolima herrera. I don't do dark roasts, but just trust me and my expertise. My beans are nothing like starbucks or peets, and thuat's before roasting.

[DGreekStallion]

Loooove the Torro blend.

And yes I do think our Miele makes me a better espresso maker than I am actually! :D

Trying the Ethiopian beans tomorrow.

[poison]

Outstanding! Did you have to adjust the grind?

[DGreekStallion]

Outstanding! Did you have to adjust the grind?It didnt appear to need it, but I could be wrong.

[poison]

It didnt appear to need it, but I could be wrong.

Good deal! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the ethiopia!

[KingItalia]

This showed up Friday.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/tuesdayespresso/98a6d1c2.jpg

Had to adjust the grind a bit finer for the Espresso Torro.

Pulled an amazing shot with the Organic Ecuador Guatenay Microlot.

[poison]

This showed up Friday.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/tuesdayespresso/98a6d1c2.jpg

Had to adjust the grind a bit finer for the Espresso Torro.

Pulled an amazing shot with the Organic Ecuador Guatenay Microlot.

:D Glad you love it! How was the Torro? Like the Ecuador better?

[Elliptical Envy]

How much would it cost for a couple of beans shipped to me? I just want to smell them :o

[poison]

How much would it cost for a couple of beans shipped to me? I just want to smell them :o

Lol, don't :o. A customer just ordered 40lbs of my beans...to put in her bosses house to make it smell good. Two months ago she ordered 30lbs. I'm so conflicted on it, I hate that they are basically wasted, but it's a sale.

[Elliptical Envy]

Lol, don't :o. A customer just ordered 40lbs of my beans...to put in her bosses house to make it smell good. Two months ago she ordered 30lbs. I'm so conflicted on it, I hate that they are basically wasted, but it's a sale.

That house must smell like dumpster juice :D

[poison]

I have no idea WTF, but...I'm pretty sure it's one of Hollywoods biggest directors, so...probably not.

[DGreekStallion]

The Ethiopian blend.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2i8u5tz.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/5kpw7k.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z6gzf8.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2duwemv.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/33jpzpz.jpg


SRS. Amazing. Job. Poison & West Coast Roasting Company.

[poison]

Haha, I'm happy to hear! I agree, it's really fruity, juicy stuff!

[poison]

We're featured roaster of the month on www.lacoffeeclub.com!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2z6xgk2.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/LACoffeeClub

http://lacoffeeclub.com/home

[DGreekStallion]

Haha, I'm happy to hear! I agree, it's really fruity, juicy stuff!I need a metric ton of it.

[poison]

I need a metric ton of it.

That could be arranged. ;)

[poison]

Sumatra Lintong Dolok Sangul is up!

The aroma has big chocolate notes, with cedar, leather, and dried apricot notes. When brewed, it's sweet and caramelly, with interesting spice notes, butterscotch, hints of herbaciousness, and stewed plums.

[StrongRepublican]

Any chance of you doing a sampler again any time soon, Poison? I seem to remember you doing four small bags of different beans for sale together at some point last year...

[poison]

Any chance of you doing a sampler again any time soon, Poison? I seem to remember you doing four small bags of different beans for sale together at some point last year...

I'm sure I'll do it for Christmas again. :)

[StrongRepublican]

Well then Christmas needs to hurry up. I would love some small batches of the Sumatra, Columbia, and Etheopia. A pound of each would just be wayyyy more coffee than I drink.

[poison]

Well then Christmas needs to hurry up. I would love some small batches of the Sumatra, Columbia, and Etheopia. A pound of each would just be wayyyy more coffee than I drink.

One lb at a time, my friend. :)

[ChrisG12]

First I can't get SAN samples in Canada. And now I can't get coffee from you either?

You're killing me here poison.

[poison]

Lol, I know. I've done Canada orders, but it's a pain in the ass, and time in transit varies. I want it in your hands fresh, not a week or 10 days old.

[ChrisG12]

Lol, I know. I've done Canada orders, but it's a pain in the ass, and time in transit varies. I want it in your hands fresh, not a week or 10 days old.

I'll spike it with a lil watermelon Fierce if the taste is off ;)

[KingItalia]

I'm sure I'll do it for Christmas again. :)
That would be awesome.
Went thru my 2lbs so fast.

[D3Baseball]

I'm going to sneak into poison's mansion (this is how I imagine him living at least), past his own security services, and have a cup of his coffee for once. You know he's got a stash of the REAL good stuff for himself

[poison]

I'll spike it with a lil watermelon Fierce if the taste is off ;)

I'm not sure how to respond to that, it's conflicting. :p


That would be awesome.
Went thru my 2lbs so fast.

Order more? :D


I'm going to sneak into poison's mansion (this is how I imagine him living at least), past his own security services, and have a cup of his coffee for once. You know he's got a stash of the REAL good stuff for himself

I may hang in mansions all day, but my personal mansion is a spacious 850 sq ft. I drive an 11yo car.

[poison]

A new Colombia inbound, from an award winning farm.


Product Description
THE CUP
Yellow Bourbon microlot. Heavy bodied and fruity with a tart cherry acidity and distinct cocoa after taste; GRAINPRO BAGS.


ADDITIONAL NOTES
Average temperatures: 18-23 degrees Celsius

Average precipitation: 2000-2400 mm

Total trees of this variety: 9,600

Total area of this variety: 2.4 ha

This is one of the most progressive and quality focused farms around the world. The view of the farm is impressive. It looks like a perfect variety garden.

This is one of a few different experimental single variety projects at Granja La Esperanza. Everything at this farm is focused towards quality improvement. Data for every imaginable detail is logged in order to find correlations between different variables and positive results.

The warehouse were coffee is stored is temperature and humidity controlled.

Each new variety projects takes about 10 years to be in full production. The first five years are only to determine if the project is viable (only a few acres are planted). The next five years is what it takes for the variety to be in full production.

Varieties are bred selectively to produce only pure offspring.

[poison]

Colombia is in stock, had my first cup this morning. Chocolate, nougat, dried cherries, and nutmeg. It's sweet and heavy-bodied!

[SupremeMMA]

Colombia is in stock, had my first cup this morning. Chocolate, nougat, dried cherries, and nutmeg. It's sweet and heavy-bodied!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/supremementality/homer-simpson-drooling.jpg

[poison]

It's really good, man.

[poison]

Sipping a cup of Costa Rica Hernan Solis Villa Sarchi now. Aromatically awesome, very floral with gentle fruit. In the cup, wow! Caramel, honey, dried red fruit, and mild cinnamon. There's a distinct Red Vines note in there as well, and everyone loves Red Vines, right? :D

[poison]

I always provide a very special coffee for the holidays, usually an excellent Kona. This year I am mixing it up, and just ordered the #2 coffee from this year's Cup of Excellence competition in Honduras. It is going to be insane.

[laneanders]

Definitely enjoying the coffee I bought from you the other day. I seem to gravitate toward the Ethiopians, this Yirgacheffe is nice, it still isn't as good as the Dark Kebado you had awhile back though.

[poison]

Definitely enjoying the coffee I bought from you the other day. I seem to gravitate toward the Ethiopians, this Yirgacheffe is nice, it still isn't as good as the Dark Kebado you had awhile back though.

It's a totally different flavor profile. I am starting to look for a new Ethiopia, as I only have a half bag of this Wote Konga left.

[PuZo]

Is there anyway you can get it vacuum sealed?

[poison]

Is there anyway you can get it vacuum sealed?

It's not worthwhile, at all. Coffee goes stale quickly, and vac packing it doesn't extend the window of freshness enough for me to even consider it.

[PuZo]

It's not worthwhile, at all. Coffee goes stale quickly, and vac packing it doesn't extend the window of freshness enough for me to even consider it.

Meh, I think it was good enough when I received it.

[poison]

Try 49th parallel, up your way. ;)

[PuZo]

Try 49th parallel, up your way. ;)

Want to support you idgit...

[poison]

Want to support you idgit...

Which I appreciate greatly, but sometimes it just makes more sense to keep it local. I love their stuff, try it and compare.

[PuZo]

Which I appreciate greatly, but sometimes it just makes more sense to keep it local. I love their stuff, try it and compare.

NAFTA bro... what was NAFTA all aboot?

[poison]

NAFTA bro... what was NAFTA all aboot?

It wasn't about delivery of fresh coffee, for sure. :p

[poison]

I always provide a very special coffee for the holidays, usually an excellent Kona. This year I am mixing it up, and just ordered the #2 coffee from this year's Cup of Excellence competition in Honduras. It is going to be insane.

This stuff should be at FedEx for pickup tomorrow or Weds. I can't wait. Normally I cup coffees before ordering, but these CoE ones I generally don't. They've been vetted by far better cuppers than me.

[poison]

Honduras CoE #2 and sample packs are up. Roasting CoE now, so much fun!

[StrongRepublican]

Honduras CoE #2 and sample packs are up. Roasting CoE now, so much fun!

Saw this on FB; will be ordering shortly.

[poison]

Thanks man. Seems like people love the sample pack.

[thefleshlight]

Thanks man. Seems like people love the sample pack.

Oh sample packs? I may be interested now.

[PuZo]

Thanks man. Seems like people love the sample pack.

Need some for the wifey... the usual PM will suffice?

[poison]

Oh sample packs? I may be interested now.

Yessir! Four 1/2lb bags of my finest!


Need some for the wifey... the usual PM will suffice?

PM me.

[StrongRepublican]

Just ordered the Holiday Sample Pack

[poison]

Just ordered the Holiday Sample Pack

Thanks bro, roasted and shipped today! Plus $2 will go to the International Medical Corp. Threw a San goodie or two in as well, sorry I'm kinda low right now.

[StrongRepublican]

Thanks bro, roasted and shipped today! Plus $2 will go to the International Medical Corp. Threw a San goodie or two in as well, sorry I'm kinda low right now.

Fast shipping was fast. Just got the box in and immediately put the kettle on for a cup of the Sumatra before I head out of the house.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/StrongRepublican/IMG_0227.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/StrongRepublican/IMG_0228.jpg

[poison]

Fast shipping was fast. Just got the box in and immediately put the kettle on for a cup of the Sumatra before I head out of the house.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/StrongRepublican/IMG_0227.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/StrongRepublican/IMG_0228.jpg


And...?? :)

[StrongRepublican]

And...?? :)

So far I've tried the Sumatra, Kenya, and Costa Rica. All very tasty, but I have to say the Kenya is my favorite out of those three (for now). It's very sweet and smooth, but very complex - definitely a lot to take in with a single cup.

[PuZo]

Mine will be coming shortly! In your FACE SMITTY!

[poison]

So far I've tried the Sumatra, Kenya, and Costa Rica. All very tasty, but I have to say the Kenya is my favorite out of those three (for now). It's very sweet and smooth, but very complex - definitely a lot to take in with a single cup.

Saving the best for last, hmm?

[poison]

Mine will be coming shortly! In your FACE SMITTY!

You're in here:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/315789_10151150944745669_1227319148_n.jpg

That was today's labors.

[poison]

I'm donating $2 per Holiday Pack to the IMC this year (in addition to the $.25/lb on everything else, as usual). I just made the donations for purchases up until now. :)

http://internationalmedicalcorps.org/

[AlecGaspari]

http://home.woot.com/

cheap burr grinder for you ladies :p

[poison]

Woot has coffee stuff up pretty frequently. Problem with cheap burr grinders is they are usually only marginally better than blade grinders. If anyone is interested in really upgrading their coffee equipment, ask me first. I can save you a ton of money. Keep in mind I don't sell any of it, and don't profit, so no bias here.

[poison]

Only a few days left to get fresh roasted joe for Christmas/gifts/stocking stuffers!

[poison]

Mine will be coming shortly! In your FACE SMITTY!

How's the coffee? Was the deed done? :D

[StrongRepublican]

Couldn't resist another sampler since it was still up on the site. Went through the last 2lbs in exactly one month.

[poison]

Damn sampler. Just not busy enough to do it now.

[laneanders]

Going to order more coffee pZn what should I get :eek:

[poison]

Going to order more coffee pZn what should I get :eek:

Damn, they're all REALLY good right now. The Ethiopia is great, but don't expect it to be the same.

[Daycrawler]

Damn, they're all REALLY good right now. The Ethiopia is great, but don't expect it to be the same.


I vote Panama. I got that last week, it's incredible.

[AlecGaspari]

Poison, how you feel about this bad boy?

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-Single-Serve-Coffee/dp/B005GUGBS4/ref=sr_1_5?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1361129886&sr=1-5

Girl and I split up so I'll be losing my big espresso maker... :(

Or this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-Brewer-Single-12-cup/dp/B004O0AOMQ/ref=pd_sbs_k_3

both will match the stainless steel of my new house and are small enough to leave out with issue... do you see any forseeable issue with either of these?

[poison]

How many cups do you drink per day? How lazy are you? Fee things beat a clever dripper for $20 and a capresso infinity or baratza encore grinder. If you drink multiple cups, you need another solution. So tell me more.

[AlecGaspari]

How many cups do you drink per day? How lazy are you? Fee things beat a clever dripper for $20 and a capresso infinity or baratza encore grinder. If you drink multiple cups, you need another solution. So tell me more.

1 or 2 cups a day, only on weekends

Drink coffee at work during the week

[poison]

OK, you NEED a grinder. For some reason people tend to fixate on the brewing mechanism, but the grinder is equally, or more, important. Here's why: coffee goes stale quickly, and ground coffee goes stale much faster than whole bean (ground = more surface area and exposure to oxygen). At the pace of a couple cups a weekend, a lb will last you a couple months. It's shelf life as whole bean is 1 month max, 3-4 days ground (this is from the roasting date; wait, you don't know when your coffee was roasted? It's stale, guaranteed).

So...the best way to improve your coffee is to buy fresh-roasted coffee (less than a weekout of the roaster). Buy a grinder. Store it as whole bean in the freezer. Take out the weekends coffee Sat morning, and leave the rest in the freezer. Grind before brewing, and use whatever method you prefer which uses 195-200 degree water (clever dripper, frenc press, or a good machine).

See links below.

[poison]

http://www.amazon.com/ABID-CO-LTD-C-70888-Dripper/dp/B0047W70GY/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1361182297&sr=1-1&keywords=clever+dripper

http://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1361182263&sr=1-1&keywords=baratza+encore

http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-560-01-Infinity-Grinder-Black/dp/B0000AR7SY

[AlecGaspari]

http://www.amazon.com/ABID-CO-LTD-C-70888-Dripper/dp/B0047W70GY/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1361182297&sr=1-1&keywords=clever+dripper

http://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1361182263&sr=1-1&keywords=baratza+encore

http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-560-01-Infinity-Grinder-Black/dp/B0000AR7SY



very cool, thanks for the links

that clever dripper looks badass!

[poison]

If it's unclear, it is a cone filter, with a stopper on the bottom. The problem with cone filters is brew time: the water flows through immediately, with lower extraction over other methods. The clever fixes the issue with a stopper on the bottom. Put the filter in, put the grounds in, pour 200 degree water, stir, and wait 4 minutes. Set the whole shebang on top of the cup, and it drains, leaving all grounds in the clever. It simply kicks ass.

[AlecGaspari]

If it's unclear, it is a cone filter, with a stopper on the bottom. The problem with cone filters is brew time: the water flows through immediately, with lower extraction over other methods. The clever fixes the issue with a stopper on the bottom. Put the filter in, put the grounds in, pour 200 degree water, stir, and wait 4 minutes. Set the whole shebang on top of the cup, and it drains, leaving all grounds in the clever. It simply kicks ass.

I used to do this at my old work, but I found that waiting more than a minute left my coffee very bitter

I wasn't using special beans (starbucks I think?) and the water wasn't measured but was definitely hot from the microwave

[poison]

A couple things:

I hate to say it, but crappy coffee tastes bad. Buy the best coffee you can afford, it's a lot easier to dial in the equipment when you know the coffee is not the problem.

Grinding too fine will be make it bitter. It needs to be a medium grind.

Water hotter than 200 will make it bitter. A microwave can heat water to 212, or higher. It takes 5-6 minutes at ambient home temps for water to cool to 200 or so.

I can guarantee you the clever is one of the best brew methods, and capable of a world class cup, if you follow the above. It's easy.

[dsade]

A couple things:

I hate to say it, but crappy coffee tastes bad. Buy the best coffee you can afford, it's a lot easier to dial in the equipment when you know the coffee is not the problem.

Grinding too fine will be make it bitter. It needs to be a medium grind.

Water hotter than 200 will make it bitter. A microwave can heat water to 212, or higher. It takes 5-6 minutes at ambient home temps for water to cool to 200 or so.

I can guarantee you the clever is one of the best brew methods, and capable of a world class cup, if you follow the above. It's easy.Have you heard any updates about the Guatemalan coffee fungus outbreak, and influence on world coffee prices?

Trying to figure out how much I should be stocking up.

[poison]

Did you stock up before the cost of gas tripled in 2001-2? ;) You can't stock up on perishables, brother.

[dsade]

Did you stock up before the cost of gas tripled in 2001-2? ;) You can't stock up on perishables, brother.I did....I have several tanker trucks hidden in the desert.

[poison]

I wouldn't put it past you. :p

[ginosko]

Put an order in last month for Espresso Torro after hearing all the stellar reviews. WCR exceeded my expectations with quality and how quickly my order was filled. No burnt taste, just delicious fresh espresso. Almost makes me want to buy a new machine to do this coffee justice.

[AlecGaspari]

Just a heads up for everyone, this deal is today only 3-11-13

http://home.woot.com/offers/breville-smart-grinder


http://d3gqasl9vmjfd8.cloudfront.net/46742a6a-18e1-4e49-8ea1-a09e36eda4ac.jpg

$195 on Amazon, $119 on WOOT (Refurbished)


Woot: http://home.woot.com/offers/breville-smart-grinder


Amazon for review/compare:
http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG800XL-Smart-Grinder/dp/B0043EWFAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363013354&sr=8-1&keywords=Breville+BCG800XL+Smart+Grinder

[poison]

Put an order in last month for Espresso Torro after hearing all the stellar reviews. WCR exceeded my expectations with quality and how quickly my order was filled. No burnt taste, just delicious fresh espresso. Almost makes me want to buy a new machine to do this coffee justice.

I don't **** around. :D Glad you liked it! See the new Peru I put up today?


Just a heads up for everyone, this deal is today only 3-11-13

http://home.woot.com/offers/breville-smart-grinder


http://d3gqasl9vmjfd8.cloudfront.net/46742a6a-18e1-4e49-8ea1-a09e36eda4ac.jpg

$195 on Amazon, $119 on WOOT (Refurbished)


Woot: http://home.woot.com/offers/breville-smart-grinder


Amazon for review/compare:
http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG800XL-Smart-Grinder/dp/B0043EWFAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363013354&sr=8-1&keywords=Breville+BCG800XL+Smart+Grinder

You buy it?

[BlazerXX]

I have a red technivorm KBG-741 coming in along with a frieling 23k gold filter, also picked up a few bamboo filters.... will use with baratza preciso

https://www.jlhufford.com/images/technivorm-kbg-741-red.jpg

Supposedly this new model does away with the drip control switch and instead has an auto bloom programmed into the drip cycle, as well as an auto drip stop feature that allows you to pull the carafe away and stop the brewing until you replace it

[poison]

I have a red technivorm KBG-741 coming in along with a frieling 23k gold filter, also picked up a few bamboo filters.... will use with baratza preciso

https://www.jlhufford.com/images/technivorm-kbg-741-red.jpg

Supposedly this new model does away with the drip control switch and instead has an auto bloom programmed into the drip cycle, as well as an auto drip stop feature that allows you to pull the carafe away and stop the brewing until you replace it

You win the lottery or something? :D

[poison]

I had some fantastic espresso in reykjavik. There are 2 main coffee 'chains', both of which roast their own, one with in store roasters, so it's fresh. The third single location was absolutely fantastic, world class. Overall, they have way more good coffee in reykjavik than we have in La, even though la is like 572 times as big.

[poison]

Update on the Ethiopia Yirgacheffe #1 Wote Konga....This is a singularly unique bean and roast. I combine this with (shut up) a Columbian-heavy breakfast blend that I am impressed with from Sam's Club. I used about 25 beans to 60 of the BB into the burr grinder. Water hit about 200 degrees. Poured the grind into the French Press and added water. Stirred it for about 4 minutes.

Beautiful chocolate bronze color. Flavor is very complex, and can be overwhelming on its own (based on past experience with the Ethiopians) but was perfect in the blend. Most cominant note is the expected blueberry, but with a twist. It reminds me of blueberry mixed into fresh whipped light cream. There is a hint of vanilla, very slight citrus note, and oddly enough an almost undetectable dash of tobacco that enhances the baritone notes. Bright fruity and deep all at the same time, this is definitely one of the top cups of coffee I have ever had.

http://www.westcoastroasting.com/ethiopia-yirgacheffe-1-wote-konga/

dsade, my current Ethiopia is just as fruity. ;)

[Outside backer]

^^^

this

Never in my life have I tasted a hot cup of coffee and look twice for floating blue berries

[INGENIUM]

poison,

do you know anything about the saeco incanto deluxe?

it's on woot today for 370...thinking about pulling the trigger...

cheapest I have seen it online otherwise is like 750

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/saeco-incanto-deluxe-espresso-machine

[poison]

^^^

this

Never in my life have I tasted a hot cup of coffee and look twice for floating blue berries

lol, well this one has that too.


poison,

do you know anything about the saeco incanto deluxe?

it's on woot today for 370...thinking about pulling the trigger...

cheapest I have seen it online otherwise is like 750

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/saeco-incanto-deluxe-espresso-machine

Do you really want a super auto? If so, saeco builds good super autos. If you can take the time to learn to pull your own shots, a little more money buys you a gaggia and grinder that allows you to brew far better espresso.

What are your needs?

[poison]

btw, seattle coffee gear is fully legit, so the 1 year warranty through them is good. also, you might consider the square trade extension, if it's cheap.

[INGENIUM]

Do you really want a super auto? If so, saeco builds good super autos. If you can take the time to learn to pull your own shots, a little more money buys you a gaggia and grinder that allows you to brew far better espresso.

What are your needs?

I know nothing at all about brewing espresso...just love the stuff and would like to be able to make it at home. most of the machines people have recommended to me have been like 1-2k and I don't really want to drop that much...just looking for something that will make good espresso but doesn't cost a grand...

[poison]

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Baratza/

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia/

Those two are the premier budget option. You can be brewing the best espresso in miles with those two. Yes, the grinder is pricey, but trust me, the grinder is even more important than the machine, once you get a real machine with a real pump, like the Gaggia.

This setup is easy to learn on, will blow away any super auto, and resale value stays high. Only other thinyou:d need is a tamper and fresh roasted coffee.

[Blacklac]

Poison, that Ethiopia brew was awesome. I wouldn't do it any justice trying to break it down or compare it, but it was very good. :D Looking forward to trying the other one, as well.

I wasn't expecting to get the package so fast, but I opened my Apartment door and saw it laying there and then I got a whiff of some coffee goodness...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/7/9/1/0/1/webimg/513572961_o.jpg


Gonna try and hook up with my buddy and do a little comparison from his French Press to my Vacuum pot. :)

[poison]

Very nice, thanks! The smell even before opening the box is pretty nuts, huh?

[Blacklac]

It is. Lol. The 2nd bag of beans is sitting on my coffee table as an air freshener. One of the benefits of being a bachelor, how many women would let that fly? Lol

[poison]

Lol, just try to use it within 3-4 weeks of the roast date.