Lean Xtreme, Alphaburn, Eviscerate + ECDY Weekly Log

[vsev12]

Cliffs:
- Lean out, keep strength, get biking season rolling and have a 6 pack by memorial day

[itzDodge]

I approve of the first three. Running EC alongside these? Would definitely give a positive boost.

[vsev12]

I approve of the first three. Running EC alongside these? Would definitely give a positive boost.

No EC, im losing too much weight in the first week as it is, without LX fully kicking in. Also, EC + Biking wont go together too well.

As far as ecdy, I responded very well to E-Bol, so if ECDY can do half of what that did for me I'll be very happy as I am going to increase my workout load by a lot during this 40 day run.

Log setup & info to follow later, as well as weekly update sometime tomorrow as today is end of the first week on the stack.

[vsev12]

40 DAY LOG OVERVIEW

Personal
Age: 26
Height: 6'5
Starting Weight: 230.7

Supplements
Lean Xtreme - favorite non stim fat burner, this is 4th time using it. (1morning, 1 4 hrs later, 1 prebed)
Alphaburn - Alpha Y with some peppa (3in the morning , 3 either pre second exercise session or bed (w/ melatonin))
ECDY - $20/bottle worth a try if it can do anything like Ebol did as I really up the training. (2morning , 1 afternoon, 1 prebed)
Eviscerate (pre morning workout)
Slin Sane - makes carbs yo friend (1-3 a day with highest carb meals)

Other regular supps:
rage or superpump max pre lifting
rage or phenadrine pre cardio only sessions
powershock or wraath intra
myofusion protein
green mag - to get my creatine in during non superpump days
cordygen5 - take before long biking sessions
ALCAR
Orange Triad + Oximega

Training
Day1: Chest/Tris
Day2: Shoulders/Traps etc
Day3: Back/Biceps

Lifting sessions usually last 30-45 minutes mostly supersets and dropsets with short rest. Lifts will not be recorded, but notes will be made about strength changes.

Will sprinkle in legs here and there, but not too often during biking season.

Very high intensity elliptical sessions after lifting when weather is bad.
Cycling at least 4 days a week, weather permitting.
Abs will be done every other day after lifting before elliptical, or P90X ab ripper at home.

Diet:
Regular Days (4-5/week): 3000-3200 cals 150-175g of carbs , goal to stay under 200, most carbs after workout. Protein ~400g. Fat 90-100g
Carb days (2-3/week): 3700+ cals 400-500g carbs, 250+ g protein, <30% of daily cals fat.

Diet is clean and will be adjusted if needed as the run progresses.

Goals
-Be at or below 220lbs before memorial day weekend while keeping current strength.
-Have ab definition
-Bike 1000 miles during the log (putting that ecdy to the test by throwing 1000 miles at myself starting from first rides of the year, unfortunately due to severe suckyness of the midwest weather, this goal is not primary)
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Will post weekly updates with diet, exercise performed and weight. Will also note the effects of the supplements used and answer questions in regards to this run.

[gainweightnow]

"Be at or below 220lbs before memorial day weekend while keeping current strength."

So lose 10.7 or more..

YOU GOT THIS :cool:

[vsev12]

"Be at or below 220lbs before memorial day weekend while keeping current strength."

So lose 10.7 or more..

YOU GOT THIS :cool:

welcome and don't anticipate weight being an issue, definition and strength is what i'm after, will be bumping calories up shall I fall toooo far below 220 and turn the rest of the run into recomp.

[gainweightnow]

welcome and don't anticipate weight being an issue, definition and strength is what i'm after, will be bumping calories up shall I fall toooo far below 220 and turn the rest of the run into recomp.

awesome man, should be a great log.

curious, what are your bench and squat 1RM?

[vsev12]

awesome man, should be a great log.

curious, what are your bench and squat 1RM?

last time i squatted got 480 x 8, comes out to about 600 1RM
bench 290 x 7 which comes out to about threefiddy five

both are on smith machine since i lift alone, so probably worth half that in real life. Both of those were recorded around middle of march, I guesstimate i can squat more and know that bench few reps less since starting the cut

[ajerone]

Impressive numbers and you got an extremely solid stack :D

Subbed, in for shreddage ;) This is gonna be funnnnnn

[Guy187]

In on this bro. Gotta love summer cuts.

[vsev12]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3503/week11.jpg
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1403/week12.jpg


- First week went very well, lost 4.9lbs, with lowest weight 6.9 lbs below the starting weight.
- There has been no loss of strength, actually set a few lifetime PRs on 2 tricep, 1 chest and 1 back exercise, so I would imagine that most of that weight is water/fat.
- Felt good and finally get some biking in, but seems like we are setting up for a rainy week in the midwest
- With 5lbs lost looking leaner, especially in the arms on low carb days, as always midsection is the last to comply with ridding of the fats

Supplement Notes:
- LX, thermogenic effect seems to be less than the first few times I ran it, most likely due to body not being a shocked by experience
- Alphaburn - feel added focus, sweat a little more, wouldnt say I feel exreme rush of energy even though dosing 3x, but will attribute that to not having cycles off PWO supplements in a while.
- Eviscerate - smells like bengay+icyhot, does not cause any discomfort during lifting or cardio.
- Ecdy - recovery has been good, not sure I can attribute it to ecdy solely, will let it do its job, and report once I get through the grueling May.
- Slin Sane - great as always, nothing like a back/bicep workout after consuming 2 slinsanes with 400 g of carbs in the prior 4 hrs, pump was insane (sp max helped too im sure)

Sides:
- Throughout the hole morning/afternoon, every 1-10minutes I would get this stabbing pain on the side of my knee, as if someone was poking me with a fork while trying to slice it with a knife at the same time, extremely painful, actually made me drop my protein shake on myself the first time it hit, after fishoiling up and taking double dose of orange triad seems to have subsided. I am going to attribute this half to biking 83 miles this weekend at the very beginning of the biking season, without really having a chance to build up slowly and other half to LX (glad I decided to dose 3/day instead of 4)

Adjustments for week 2
will continue doing what I'm doing, no major adjustments, hopefully lose a few more lbs this week.

[Guy187]

Holy balls dude...biked 83 miles this weekend? Wow.

Nice update too btw.

[vsev12]

Holy balls dude...biked 83 miles this weekend? Wow.

Nice update too btw.


Thanks man. Over sat/sun combined. when it warms up and everyone i ride with gets in better shape will be shooting for 100-120 mile weekends. Biking is great therapy, enjoyable cardio outside, gets your mind off things.

[PinchTheBear]

Nice stack. I'm a huge /G/tard (Genomxy lover/user/nuthugger) myself as well.

[vsev12]

Nice stack. I'm a huge /G/tard (Genomxy lover/user/nuthugger) myself as well.

Thanks and welcome, and I havent even tried the two most hyped up supps DCP/HEAT yet.
Happen to be a DS l/u/nh also, will be coming back for more triazole and lx every chance/sale i catch.

[PinchTheBear]

Thanks and welcome, and I havent even tried the two most hyped up supps DCP/HEAT yet.
Happen to be a DS l/u/nh also, will be coming back for more triazole and lx every chance/sale i catch.

Word. There's supposedly a sale coming up soon on bb.com but I don't expect it to be anything to write home about, granted that it's a sale on bb.com, which would make it pretty much the same price as our products are elsewhere.

[GENOMYX]

nice stack. I'm a huge /g/tard (genomxy lover/user/nuthugger) myself as well.

^^^^ lmao

[Mrsliz1724]

Looks like a solid stack my man and with the amount of biking your doing can't see leaning out and gaining definition being anywhere near a problem for you. Good luck, ill keep checking in. Keep up the good work!

[vsev12]

Looks like a solid stack my man and with the amount of biking your doing can't see leaning out and gaining definition being anywhere near a problem for you. Good luck, ill keep checking in. Keep up the good work!

Thanks for the support man, my main concerns are midwest weather, and whatever was going on with my knee today, other than that fully expect to achieve my goals.

Day 8:
4,113cals f148.8 c276.0 p430.8 (32/27/41%) << Cutting diet fail


Minor setback today, stayed up till about 1130pm last night, couldnt fall asleep all night even though took melatonin, ended up getting up around 4ish (hitting the gym at 530) it was also "one of those days" so due to very extended day and stress ended up eating over my goals, all clean foods tho. Additional factor is Sunday's cals in - cals out were under 1000, yet hunger didnt show up till today. (wasnt reflected in weight either since i drank just under a gallon shortly before what was supposed to be bed time)

Will weigh in first thing in the morning and hit the gym after. Plan on fasted lifting+hiit and biking at night weather permitting.

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did not take before pix, but will try to get some from this girl in Miami from few weeks ago, dont really wanna talk to her, but I think it will make the log better if she sends the picks over.

[vsev12]

A question for Genomyx Reps/Alpha Y experienced people:
From what i understantand Rage>Superpump max pre fasted workout with alphaburn since it has no creatine in it, is that correct?

[_Smitty_]

A question for Genomyx Reps/Alpha Y experienced people:
From what i understantand Rage>Superpump max pre fasted workout with alphaburn since it has no creatine in it, is that correct?

for that short-term purpose, it won't matter too much; especially considering that SP only contains 1.3g/scoop.

if you're concerned at all, just use the rage on those days.

[pYUNEit]

40 DAY LOG OVERVIEW

Personal
Age: 26
Height: 6'5
Starting Weight: 230.7

Supplements
Lean Xtreme - favorite non stim fat burner, this is 4th time using it. (1morning, 1 4 hrs later, 1 prebed)
Alphaburn - Alpha Y with some peppa (3in the morning , 3 either pre second exercise session or bed (w/ melatonin))
ECDY - $20/bottle worth a try if it can do anything like Ebol did as I really up the training. (2morning , 1 afternoon, 1 prebed)
Eviscerate (pre morning workout)
Slin Sane - makes carbs yo friend (1-3 a day with highest carb meals)

Other regular supps:
rage or superpump max pre lifting
rage or phenadrine pre cardio only sessions
powershock or wraath intra
myofusion protein
green mag - to get my creatine in during non superpump days
cordygen5 - take before long biking sessions
ALCAR
Orange Triad + Oximega

Training
Day1: Chest/Tris
Day2: Shoulders/Traps etc
Day3: Back/Biceps

Lifting sessions usually last 30-45 minutes mostly supersets and dropsets with short rest. Lifts will not be recorded, but notes will be made about strength changes.

Will sprinkle in legs here and there, but not too often during biking season.

Very high intensity elliptical sessions after lifting when weather is bad.
Cycling at least 4 days a week, weather permitting.
Abs will be done every other day after lifting before elliptical, or P90X ab ripper at home.

Diet:
Regular Days (4-5/week): 3000-3200 cals 150-175g of carbs , goal to stay under 200, most carbs after workout. Protein ~400g. Fat 90-100g
Carb days (2-3/week): 3700+ cals 400-500g carbs, 250+ g protein, <30% of daily cals fat.

Diet is clean and will be adjusted if needed as the run progresses.

Goals
-Be at or below 220lbs before memorial day weekend while keeping current strength.
-Have ab definition
-Bike 1000 miles during the log (putting that ecdy to the test by throwing 1000 miles at myself starting from first rides of the year, unfortunately due to severe suckyness of the midwest weather, this goal is not primary)
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Will post weekly updates with diet, exercise performed and weight. Will also note the effects of the supplements used and answer questions in regards to this run.

Nice bro, good luck! Wow at those cals, mine are measly compared to them. With all the biking you'll be doing I'm sure you'll need them though. Your joints ever bother you when biking?

[vsev12]

for that short-term purpose, it won't matter too much; especially considering that SP only contains 1.3g/scoop.

if you're concerned at all, just use the rage on those days.

Thanks, I tried with both and couldnt really tell if they were "working" any different, but I guess I'll stick to rage to maximize results.


Nice bro, good luck! Wow at those cals, mine are measly compared to them. With all the biking you'll be doing I'm sure you'll need them though. Your joints ever bother you when biking?

Thanks and good to have you. Yeah, its something to keep me sane & make progress while doing everything I enjoy, so its a win win. For some its suffering thru 1200 calorie diets and dreaded cardio indoors, for me its 3000-3200 cals and enjoyable cardio outside = win win.

Joints have never really bothered me biking, think my high month last year was 1200 miles in a month with several days in the mid 60 mile range, but I used to build up to it, not just jump right in.

Day Date Weight Calories
1 Apr 18 230.7 3319
2 Apr 19 229.7 2983
3 Apr 20 228.8 3262
4 Apr 21 226.4 3968
5 Apr 22 225.8 3110
6 Apr 23 225.8 3729
7 Apr 24 223.8 2914
8 Apr 25 225.8 4113
9 Apr 26 224.2

Even after going way over on cals, and only lifting yesterday, now down 6.5 lbs after 8 days

[Guy187]

Thanks, I tried with both and couldnt really tell if they were "working" any different, but I guess I'll stick to rage to maximize results.



Thanks and good to have you. Yeah, its something to keep me sane & make progress while doing everything I enjoy, so its a win win. For some its suffering thru 1200 calorie diets and dreaded cardio indoors, for me its 3000-3200 cals and enjoyable cardio outside = win win.

Joints have never really bothered me biking, think my high month last year was 1200 miles in a month with several days in the mid 60 mile range, but I used to build up to it, not just jump right in.

Day Date Weight Calories
1 Apr 18 230.7 3319
2 Apr 19 229.7 2983
3 Apr 20 228.8 3262
4 Apr 21 226.4 3968
5 Apr 22 225.8 3110
6 Apr 23 225.8 3729
7 Apr 24 223.8 2914
8 Apr 25 225.8 4113
9 Apr 26 224.2

Even after going way over on cals, and only lifting yesterday, now down 6.5 lbs after 8 days

Strong weight loss bro. Nice.

[pYUNEit]

Thanks, I tried with both and couldnt really tell if they were "working" any different, but I guess I'll stick to rage to maximize results.



Thanks and good to have you. Yeah, its something to keep me sane & make progress while doing everything I enjoy, so its a win win. For some its suffering thru 1200 calorie diets and dreaded cardio indoors, for me its 3000-3200 cals and enjoyable cardio outside = win win.

Joints have never really bothered me biking, think my high month last year was 1200 miles in a month with several days in the mid 60 mile range, but I used to build up to it, not just jump right in.

Day Date Weight Calories
1 Apr 18 230.7 3319
2 Apr 19 229.7 2983
3 Apr 20 228.8 3262
4 Apr 21 226.4 3968
5 Apr 22 225.8 3110
6 Apr 23 225.8 3729
7 Apr 24 223.8 2914
8 Apr 25 225.8 4113
9 Apr 26 224.2

Even after going way over on cals, and only lifting yesterday, now down 6.5 lbs after 8 days

Goal 220? Might wanna make that 215...how's the strength?

[vsev12]

Strong weight loss bro. Nice.

Thanks bro


Goal 220? Might wanna make that 215...how's the strength?

Strength is at or slightly above where I started, as long as that holds true I am not going to change anything even sub 220.

Weight is a bit tricky here, since water in take ranges from 1.5 to 2.5 gallons a day, excercise ranging from 0-60 biking miles, possible HIIT and lifting and calories from 2500 to 4500, weight will really fluctuates. As long as the weight graph starts in top left and ends in bottom right, i'll be pleased.

[knightowl]

Subbed!!! Awesome progress thus far

[uforce]

in for vsev action, no homo

bicycle seats hurt my a$$ and balls
:(

[vsev12]

Subbed!!! Awesome progress thus far

Thanks, good to have you


in for vsev action, no homo

bicycle seats hurt my a$$ and balls
:(

ufooooooooorce, glad you found this to witness me going though some of the post supplement aquisition syndrome supps , without actually putting a dent in

also, dont think you are supposed to put your balls between the seat and ur a$$ when biking urdoingitwrong.gif

[uforce]

Thanks, good to have you



ufooooooooorce, glad you found this to witness me going though some of the post supplement aquisition syndrome supps , without actually putting a dent in

also, dont think you are supposed to put your balls between the seat and ur a$$ when biking urdoingitwrong.gif

lmao.........must acquire more supps!!

oh crap.........here all this time, i was thinking you had to tuck everything back into a "fruit basket", put on the tight shorts (to help hold the fruit basket in place), and ride!!
:D

but, srsly, your stats look rather beefy for a cyclist. no homo. keep up the hard work, bro. put those supps to use!!

i found this thread by doing a search for alphaburn. i found a pretty hot deal on it, and was debating a purchase.

[vsev12]

lmao.........must acquire more supps!!

oh crap.........here all this time, i was thinking you had to tuck everything back into a "fruit basket", put on the tight shorts (to help hold the fruit basket in place), and ride!!
:D

but, srsly, your stats look rather beefy for a cyclist. no homo. keep up the hard work, bro. put those supps to use!!

i found this thread by doing a search for alphaburn. i find a pretty hot deal on it, and was debating a purchase.

Actually my goal would be to go through the whole stash, to the last energy pill and then reward myself by splurging ~$500 in one order during one of the holiday sales, i was close, but few wheycheap/planet/protein deals put that out of reach.

i am anything and everything but a CYCLIST, i just fell in love with riding a bike outdoors as a form of cardio few years ago (beats the **** out of doing indoor machines), i break about every cyclist "code" by riding my mountain bike in my basketball shorts with groups of spandexed out, shaved legged road bikers :)

[vsev12]

Yesterday had an excellent day work, lifting and biking wise, didn't hurt that what was supposed to be thunderstorms and tornadoes cleared up into 70 and sunny.

Went a little lower on cals to make up for going way over the day before ended up with
2674 cals 67 fat 331 protein 196 carbs

Had an excellent shoulder session, strength on some minor exercises has gone up to all time highs, so very pleased about that. Also got 28.7 miles in biking.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/8875/day9d.jpg


Weighed in at 226.2 (-4.5 IN 9 days) on the morning of day 10, due to drinking lots of water in the evening to rehydrate from back-to-back lifting and biking session in the hot and humid gym/outside. As mentioned yesterday expect weight to be a rollercoaster due to many factors of diet & expercise. Looking noticeably leaner and stronger than when the run was started, should be fun when I arrive at target 220lbs with all the strength kept.

Supplement notes:
To aid with appetite suppresion took Phenadrine with the morning dose, and Cryoshock with the prelifting/biking LX/AB/ECDY dose. Both phenadrine and cryoshock contain 1,3 dimeth, which really helped with appetite suppression & thermo effect. Will try to use 1,3 no more than twice per week, unless im running behind my goals, as long as I am at <225 mark come day 20, I'm on solid pace

Knee update
strangest thing, but apparently overtime my chair slid down and when I was sitting knee was bent in a position , straining something in it used during cycling, adjust the seat and magic.. no more casper slicing the side of my knee and no pain during biking

[vsev12]

Day 10:
Weight 224.4 (-6.3 in 10days)

Diet: 3187cal 101f 380p 189c

Exercise:
Back and bicep workout in the morning

2miles elliptical, squats (smith 440x10 last set 1rm=587) and lunges, followed by walking 1 mile on incline in the evening. Pretty good squat numbers especially after back workout in the morning, really need to look into getting a belt, would feel a lot more comfortable going for higher numbers with that on, going for really high reps currently as to not have 500+ lbs sitting on my back.

Strength is slowly climbing as body weight is going down, looking very lean in the arms, midsection leaning out also. Luckily still 30days to go on this stack, will have to start throwing some p90x abripper at that stubborn stomach fat.

Supps:
Going to bump Aburn to 7 day 3-2-2, keep lx at 1-1-1, ECDY at 2-1-1

YAY to Carb Thursday, will try to get in >400 today


Horribly long winter and now that its warmer seems to be raining non stop, me bikey no likey

[tjwoody]

im in and very jelly or those high carb days!! :D

great, great weight loss too! i got a mountain bike myself and really gotta use it more this year!

[Guy187]

Nice weight loss so far bro!

[vsev12]

im in and very jelly or those high carb days!! :D

great, great weight loss too! i got a mountain bike myself and really gotta use it more this year!

Thats what I did 2 years ago, like "hmm, let me ride this to the gym".. then realized its beats the $hit out of doing cardio in hot and humid summer gym.


Nice weight loss so far bro!
Thanks for the support man

[vsev12]

Weight:
223.8 (-6.9lbs in 11 days), which ties the lowest weight of the run AND it was after a carb day

Diet:
3,883cals 112.0f 438.9c 297.5pro

Exercise:
Chest+Tris in the morning, still strength loss in sight, getting stronger on few non major lifts here and there
Bike 29.1 miles in the afternoon, even though it was a fairly easy ride, certainly felt it after back workout and first leg workout in few months yesterday.

Supplements:
-Morning dry mouth is coming on with LX, slightly annoying but i supposed ill deal with considering the results :p

[Guy187]

Losing weight on 3500++ calories? Hell yeah dude.

[vsev12]

Losing weight on 3500++ calories? Hell yeah dude.

Yeah man, feels awesome. Before the run is over i might throw in a week of pretty low cals, but while strength is at least the same and weight is dropping there really no need to do so. I find this works well for me, high cal and lots of activity, you having great results with <1500 cals, to each their own

[Guy187]

Yeah man, feels awesome. Before the run is over i might throw in a week of pretty low cals, but while strength is at least the same and weight is dropping there really no need to do so. I find this works well for me, high cal and lots of activity, you having great results with <1500 cals, to each their own

4 days at 1200 cals, one day at 6500 cals, and then two days at 2500 cals....averages to about 2300 a day. It is working very well though.

[knightowl]

Great results man! Cutting at such high calories is Amazing! you also have crazy Stamina! Keep it up!

How is the sleep by the way? are you able to get 8 hours a night?

[tjwoody]

Weight:
223.8 (-6.9lbs in 11 days), which ties the lowest weight of the run AND it was after a carb day

Diet:
3,883cals 112.0f 438.9c 297.5pro

Exercise:
Chest+Tris in the morning, still strength loss in sight, getting stronger on few non major lifts here and there
Bike 29.1 miles in the afternoon, even though it was a fairly easy ride, certainly felt it after back workout and first leg workout in few months yesterday.

Supplements:
-Morning dry mouth is coming on with LX, slightly annoying but i supposed ill deal with considering the results :p

amazing results!!

im around 2300-2400 cals myself with minimal cardio. just starting so not enough data to see whats working for me, but my gym #s going up with some weight loss so I will take it. i bet u burn a good amount of cals during those nice bike rides. theres a nice trail like 10 mins from house im gonna try to hit up this weekend.

how many LX u taking? im doing 1 in morning, 1 4 hours later but thinking time to up to 3 split up. I read in here u liked LX last times U did it i believe.

Keep it up!

[vsev12]

4 days at 1200 cals, one day at 6500 cals, and then two days at 2500 cals....averages to about 2300 a day. It is working very well though.

I might try that in winter or when going on heavier bulk, I am pretty sure I would not enjoy 1200 calorie days and or trying to bike on such low cals. If I did I would probably end up losing too much weight, since 50 mile ride burns ~2500-3000 cals.


Great results man! Cutting at such high calories is Amazing! you also have crazy Stamina! Keep it up!

How is the sleep by the way? are you able to get 8 hours a night?

Thanks man, kind of trying to put ECDY to the test as far as adjusting to new workout load, unfortunately midwest is still struggling to bring spring along, too many rainy days.

I take melatonin at night, so sleep is good most of the nights, unfortunately I can only afford 5-7 hrs of sleep/night

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Today got my lifts done and had good strength, the energy didnt seem to be there compared to the usual, must be leg/back day followed by biking day making my lower back and legs feel tight.

Supposed to have really nice weather tomorrow, will try to get at least 40 fasted miles in in the morning, and then carb up (mmm sushi buffet) and recover the rest of the day.

[vsev12]

amazing results!!

im around 2300-2400 cals myself with minimal cardio. just starting so not enough data to see whats working for me, but my gym #s going up with some weight loss so I will take it. i bet u burn a good amount of cals during those nice bike rides. theres a nice trail like 10 mins from house im gonna try to hit up this weekend.

how many LX u taking? im doing 1 in morning, 1 4 hours later but thinking time to up to 3 split up. I read in here u liked LX last times U did it i believe.

Keep it up!

During cold months 3-5 sessions of VHIIT post lifting do the trick for me cardio wise, so not even an HR total a week, during warm month enjoy to get out there and do some biking.
From what i gather, according to most bike computer, formulas and power meters, I should be burning ~50calories a mile , that is very conservative estimate considering previously mentioned methods, in real life, who knows. Weekend 50 mile rides for my weight show up as ~3300 calories, makes me wonder how accurate that is since that would mean i'd need to eat 6000+ calories just to maintain, and I never eat that much.

Yes, lx dosing is 1lx prewo , 1 afternoon, 1 pre afternoon biking or prebed if no biking. I ran it at 4/day previously, but from what I read that is overkill and would also cause more joint risk, which is not what I want while kicking off biking season

[tjwoody]

During cold months 3-5 sessions of VHIIT post lifting do the trick for me cardio wise, so not even an HR total a week, during warm month enjoy to get out there and do some biking.
From what i gather, according to most bike computer, formulas and power meters, I should be burning ~50calories a mile , that is very conservative estimate considering previously mentioned methods, in real life, who knows. Weekend 50 mile rides for my weight show up as ~3300 calories, makes me wonder how accurate that is since that would mean i'd need to eat 6000+ calories just to maintain, and I never eat that much.

Yes, lx dosing is 1lx prewo , 1 afternoon, 1 pre afternoon biking or prebed if no biking. I ran it at 4/day previously, but from what I read that is overkill and would also cause more joint risk, which is not what I want while kicking off biking season

u take with food?

im gonna look at 1 Bfast, 1 4 hours later and maybe one with preWO also.

[vsev12]

u take with food?

im gonna look at 1 Bfast, 1 4 hours later and maybe one with preWO also.

Since i take with Alphaburn I try to take it at least an hour after and before food, not sure it matter for solo lx

[vsev12]

Saturday:
Morning Weight 224.4 , already pretty depleted fom fridays 121g carb day went for a fasted 46 mile bike ride (~2560 calories), with 300cal/25g pro/40g carb powerbar sometime at 29 mile mark. Got involved in a few full effort sprints in the first 10 miles which made me feel the empty tank even more the rest of the ride. After I came home it was time for the carb up + only CHEAT day of the run, featuring sushi buffet, and a sh!tton of icecream putting me on the day at 4859cals 602g carbs, 308g pro, 142g fat
p.s. was at 221.6lbs post ride.

Sunday:
Morning weight 228.8 as expected after consuming months worth of sodium and sugar the day before, hit up back and bis, had epic pump considering the carb up, slin sane and 2 bagel brekfast before lifting, strength up across the boad on all back/bi lifts, diet for the day 2915cals 88fat 327p 213c w/ most carbs around workout time

Monday
morning weight: 225.3 still feeling the affects of cheat day sodium + sugar i'd imagine, had a quick superset / dropset chest/tri workout in the morning

Notes:
- stronger across the board
- visually leaner even after carb up
- no sides
- trying to build up endurance for some serious biking
- no more cheat days till memorial day , only clean carb up days
- no joint issues
- thermogenic effects are there, but not to the point of being uncofmortable or distracting from daily activities

[tjwoody]

Had a cheat day sunday myself...not all day but cheated a few times. I gotta stop em too myself.

i think the LX is making me sweat a lot more in the gym...cant be sure. started 1 Bfast, 1 4 hours later and 1 around preWO time with my drink.

[vsev12]

Had a cheat day sunday myself...not all day but cheated a few times. I gotta stop em too myself.

i think the LX is making me sweat a lot more in the gym...cant be sure. started 1 Bfast, 1 4 hours later and 1 around preWO time with my drink.

probably about 500 of those 600 carbs came in 3 hours span, i super pigged out, from now on 400-500g clean carb up days

LX + Alphaburn + anythign 1,3 dimeth = lots of sweat, trying to save 1,3 for 2 times a week though

[PinchTheBear]

Excellent updates

[vsev12]

Excellent updates

Thanks, excellent LX ;)

[Guy187]

Yeah, awesome work dude.

[vsev12]

Yeah, awesome work dude.

Thanks bro.

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The bodyweight goal of 220 is just something approximate to shoot for, as long as my strength is increasing , i am leaning out and endurance is going up with no sides, i'll be happy regardless of what the scale says.

Another big part of this, is I have declared no partying time through memorial day, that is greatly helping, as previously working very hard in the gym 6-7 days a week progress has been slow due to super sloppy weekends.

[vsev12]

Monday: Chest and tri workout in the morning, 90% of 2917 cals consumed in the 8hr window between post workout and 30.9mile bike ride, just a protein shake after the ride... and SWOOSH... looks like cheat day sodium / glycogen is gone, weight in at the lowest of the run:
221.3lbs down 9.4LBS in 15 days!

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7660/15daychart.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5826/15dayweight.jpg

disclaimer:
"real" weight is most likely bit higher, a little less hydrated than usual, when drinking 2+ gals of water or many other things in life, you dont appreciate something (ability to urinate every 30 minutes) until its gone... once i was 7-8 miles into my 31 mile bike ride i realized that I HAD TO GO.. but had to hold it for another 23 miles , so there was certainly no sipping on the powershock, just the battle vs the bladder

[Guy187]

Awesome work bro. Enjoying the mirror changes?

[vsev12]

Awesome work bro. Enjoying the mirror changes?

Thanks man. Certainly leaning out very noticeably, arms are very lean, legs are shedding off some of the winter build up since starting up biking, the part im most concerned about - abs are playing a little hard to get, guess it takes some work to melt off 26 yrs worth of fat for the first time.

[tjwoody]

Thanks man. Certainly leaning out very noticeably, arms are very lean, legs are shedding off some of the winter build up since starting up biking, the part im most concerned about - abs are playing a little hard to get, guess it takes some work to melt off 26 yrs worth of fat for the first time.

lol, i hear ya on the ab fat!

ur log with graphs is very nice!

got my bike almost ready to go. no more easy cardio indoors for me! either biking or shooting around the bball with my son! id still like some Hiit sessions now and then though.

ur weight loss is impressive. i have to bring my cals very low.

[vsev12]

lol, i hear ya on the ab fat!

ur log with graphs is very nice!

got my bike almost ready to go. no more easy cardio indoors for me! either biking or shooting around the bball with my son! id still like some Hiit sessions now and then though.

ur weight loss is impressive. i have to bring my cals very low.

Thanks a lot for support, i keep my own spreadsheet with the above graphs, so why not post them for 30 seconds worth of work.

A little surprised by the weightloss myself, especially considering the amount of calories, the timing and the supps must be doing their job. Guessing lots of that weight is from legs, sides and must be water weight also, since 9.5lbs later my I'm setting some PRs here and there, me = very happy keeping teh musklz.

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Today was a little rough in the gym, after yesterday 160g carb day, all before the 31 mile bike ride and fasted tradining today + taking smaller caffeine amount via SP MAx instead of rage felt a little less energy at the gym today, but got it going towards the end, rewarded myself with 137g carbs post workout shake & meal, nom nom, time for slin sane to put those carbs where they belong

[vsev12]

Day 16
Weight: 223.1 (down 7.6 lbs in 15 days)
Diet: 3900cals 115f 374p 368c
Chest/Tri workout, nothing noteworty, minus weather keeps on sucking in the midwest and messing with my high mileage biking days tue/thu/sat/sundays

Log Diet Adjustments
Due to losing weight almost too fast as well as gaining strength, I will try to aid the latter by going from 3 to 4 carb days / week from now on.

[vsev12]

Also, got some triazole form the trade today, REALLY REALLY tempted to put this log into overdrive by throwin in 4 triazoles a day for the final 21 days.. that would be insane.. but idk idk idk

[Mrsliz1724]

your progress has me literally salivating at the thought of this summer...2 bottles LX 2 bottles Alphaburn 2 bottles DCP Ephedrine HCL Caffeine Eviscerate. Over the top? yes. Kick ass? Yes.

Keep it up man been checking it out every couple of days.

[vsev12]

your progress has me literally salivating at the thought of this summer...2 bottles LX 2 bottles Alphaburn 2 bottles DCP Ephedrine HCL Caffeine Eviscerate. Over the top? yes. Kick ass? Yes.

Keep it up man been checking it out every couple of days.

Thanks for following along...

LX & AB are great... with DCP!?! E?!?! = negative body fat??

E should take care of the appetite suppression i seem to lack on this stack, but anything 1,3 containing taken on the day of lower desired cals usually does the trick

[tjwoody]

nice carb days!

think im gonna add E this weekend. i am finishing some ergoburn, and i really like it. gonna do EC with my LX and see where it takes me!

[vsev12]

nice carb days!

think im gonna add E this weekend. i am finishing some ergoburn, and i really like it. gonna do EC with my LX and see where it takes me!

mmmm carb days....

LX+EC seems to be THE goto cutting stack around here.. i simply dont think biking and E will mix very well, especially assuming we have a spring or summer this year. Also, am extremely satisfied with current weight loss progress, anticipating reaching 220 mark shortly even on 3000 cals and 4 carb days

[whitesox23]

221.3lbs down 9.4LBS in 15 days!


Awesome man! Feeling fatigued or anything? I wrestled and making the number go down was no problem, but maintaining muscle/strength/consciousness ;) was the impossible part...

[vsev12]

Awesome man! Feeling fatigued or anything? I wrestled and making the number go down was no problem, but maintaining muscle/strength/consciousness ;) was the impossible part...

Thats the thing feeling great, today's back/bis set few new prs... the only time in 16days i felt questionable was lifting fasted in the morning following a low carb day including lifting in the morning and biking in the evening... other than that , on carb days feel great, and on low carb days still using up the glycogen from the day before. Not sure I would differently if I could do it all over again. Only thing is I wish i had access to some remotely accurate BF measuring apparatus to see whats what of this weight coming off.

[whitesox23]

Thats the thing feeling great, today's back/bis set few new prs... the only time in 16days i felt questionable was lifting fasted in the morning following a low carb day including lifting in the morning and biking in the evening... other than that , on carb days feel great, and on low carb days still using up the glycogen from the day before. Not sure I would differently if I could do it all over again. Only thing is I wish i had access to some remotely accurate BF measuring apparatus to see whats what of this weight coming off.

That's awesome man! PR's while losing weight is best case scenario! Yeah tracking it is tough, just go by the mirror man..

[vsev12]

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1838/2198v.jpg

Diet yesterday
2835cals 99f 336pro 159c

Back/Bis in the morning with several PRs
31.8mi very light bike ride in the evening

Have to decide in 2 days if I will put this into overdrive by adding triazole for last 21 days @ 4 a day :confused:

[vsev12]

Supplement update:
- ran out of my new favorite intra PowerShock, to keep the nitrates flowing through the rest of the run will take what I have left of CBOL in my stash post lifting, or cycling on bike-only days
- still contemplating TZ.. decision decisions...

[vsev12]

Day 18:
220.5lbs - down 10.2 in 19days , this is after high carb day of 3850cals 98fat 373pro 388 fat.
Chest/Tri workout in the morning, 37.6mi biking in the evening, hardest ride of the year so far.

Nothing crazy to note, except legs are feeling it from yesterday, so will not lift this morning, will lift in the evening.

[tjwoody]

i hope to start a lil riding today with my boy. for me to go on longer rides i cant bring him so i try to do lil short ones with him, things like around the block or so, some weekends i bring him to the trail with me.

I love EC for the app supp. but Im gonna hold off until i need to really lower my cals though.


ur doing great in here.

[vsev12]

Not much has changed, lifting has been disco supserset/dropset monkey style training with almost no breaks, weather has cleared up a little bit, so have been getting some decent biking in, still with so many rainouts 1000mile goal is out of reach, but will be more repsectable.

Have been upping cals in 4000-4500 range on carb days and 3000-3500 on low carb days.

Today weight in at new lowest weight of the run
218lbs - Down 12.7 lbs in 23 days, with strength steadily going up through the run!! very impressed. Looking much leaner, with abs leaning out the slowest, will have to have a conversation with my parental units to see maybe I was not given abdominals.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4651/day232.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8268/day23p.jpg

[vsev12]

Lean Xtreme 1st bottle DID NOT HAVE 90 caps in it :mad:

[Guy187]

Have been upping cals in 4000-4500 range on carb days and 3000-3500 on low carb days.
Today weight in at new lowest weight of the run
218lbs - Down 12.7 lbs in 23 days, with strength steadily going up through the run!! very impressed. Looking much leaner, with abs leaning out the slowest, will have to have a conversation with my parental units to see maybe I was not given abdominals.

Awesome dude. Are you even human?? You must be doing insane amount of cardio.

[vsev12]

Awesome dude. Are you even human?? You must be doing insane amount of cardio.

in the right move column you can see i did 50.7/50.7/35/31 miles biking last 4 days alone, those burn some good calories. On weekdays I lift in the morning, have 90% of my cals in the next 6-8 hours, then bike in the afternoon and only have a shake or so after biking, so with my metabolism revving I guess it does some wonders overnight

If I was just going for straight up weight loss I dont think its unreasonable to see myself in 210-215 range right now, but with my strength and mirror factors improving, I see no reason to have an "uncomfortable diet"

My work is very very instense and stressful, I have also been logging some serious hours lately, so getting out there and biking for a while really helps me clear my head , reset and oh, provides that medium intensity cardio.

[tjwoody]

Lean Xtreme 1st bottle DID NOT HAVE 90 caps in it :mad:

How many you figure it had cause im counting mine up too and I swear Im short like...close to a dozen. Need to recount them!!! :(

[vsev12]

How many you figure it had cause im counting mine up too and I swear Im short like...close to a dozen. Need to recount them!!! :(

23x3 a day = 69 + 1-2 days a week of 4/day = about a dozen short at least

[tjwoody]

23x3 a day = 69 + 1-2 days a week of 4/day = about a dozen short at least

/AGREED.

i think u got a rep subb'd so lets see what they say....

[vsev12]

/AGREED.

i think u got a rep subb'd so lets see what they say....

sad truth is, I really enjoy the product on this 4th run of it, and will run it again for the 5th time in the winter with left overs of 2nd bottle of this run. It shouldnt be like this though in perfect world, were customer is satisfied with under-filled bottles just cause the product is great

[Guy187]

What's still goin on in here?

[vsev12]

What's still goin on in here?

It's going on, was planning on posting an update tomorrow.

Cliffs:
- Today = Day 29 weight 219.4 (-11.3lbs)
- have upped cals, and turned the rest of the run into more of recomp to maximize my strength/muscle gains
- Did go with TZ for the last 21 days @ 4caps , speaking of TZ there is bb.com glitch right now where u can pick up 3tZ for $45
- Weather keeps on sucking in midwest, messing with my biking
- strength , endurance, vascularity, body composition all improved.
- Diet mistake: having myofusion as only protein for the past 2.5 weeks, can't stand seeing Myofusion add up to most g of fat/carbs of any foods on low fat/carb days. Getting 22g pro/1fat/1carb protein in tomorrow and will be using it the rest of the run.

I honestly believe if I was going for straight up weight #s could have relatively easily lost 20 LBS in 40days.

[Guy187]

I have done TZ at 4 caps for 3 weeks and it was pretty awesome bro. You will like it for sure, but beware of the bad dreams!!

[vsev12]

I have done TZ at 4 caps for 3 weeks and it was pretty awesome bro. You will like it for sure, but beware of the bad dreams!!

I've ran it before and have yet to experience the dreams, maybe cause I don't have much time to sleep these days.

After the run is up im going to run a month of TZ @ 3 caps + glycobol to help me combat 4 day memorial day weekend followed by 2 wedding weekends.

[knightowl]

Amazing change in 29 days!

no glitch for TZ anymore :(

[whitesox23]

23x3 a day = 69 + 1-2 days a week of 4/day = about a dozen short at least

No way that sux! DS are good people so a rep should make that better... Cute 3D graphs btw

[vsev12]

Gonna call it the end of the log as of this morning's weigh in (39 total days), even though plan to put in some serious work in the next 36 hrs prior to memorial day sloppyness. Will post supp reviews, weight progress, diet, comments, suggestions etc later today.

[tjwoody]

was wondering where u were!
i was reading up on alphaburn and was thinking about adding it towards the end of my ec/lean extreme stack.