That Clomubanus dude's NFSC log [Archive] - Page 4

Cumulonimbus

04-28-2011, 07:28 PM

any cutting tips bro?

lookin to get down to 10% bf from 16 %

much appreciated

I know I'm not him... But what kind of an answer are you expecting? I mean there are no cutting tips (per se) other than "eat less and/or move more".

You'll get from 16% to 10% by either moving more, eating less or a combination of both. Do that consistently for a prolonged period of time and your weight will drop.

The only "tip" would maybe be lose the weight slowly and don't intentionally drop weight in the gym. But that's the kind of stuff birds have been chirping in the trees for decades.

That. I mean I don't really know how to explain lol, the stickies should explain.

Chickneater negged me back: "You are one creepy stalker, say hello to my ignore list."

lolwut?

I think Chickeneater is mildly mentally ill (srs)

Lolwut indeed:)

Strong deadlifts, Paul.
Never seen this lemon icecream before, sounds delicious.

inb4 sh!tstorm.

And thanks Julia:) The icecream was different but in a good way, and thanks for the deadlift comment, however I want to get past 405lbs soon!

Hey man, just wanted to say excellent log!! I've been following it since you started (A whole ****ing two weeks!!) and I've def learned a lot. Good luck with your comp and keep the great material coming!

Sweet dude, glad you're enjoying the log and info

<-- still lurking on this.

Nice food pics! I believe I spotted some sriracha on a chicken+broccoli plate. That, or you're cheating on me.

wut?

Good stuff man.

You sir are correct, I love my sirracha cock sauce ;)

Yeah, team efforts who needs 'em? Bodybuilding is all dependent on yourself. Just the way I like it.

I would love to get to 10%BF, thats another goal I have...thing is I have to cut on so few cals. I'm at 1900-2100 a day right now and when I bulk it literally takes less than 2500 to gain weight. :(

Bodybuilding is an individual sport, but also a lot of outside peer influences can make a huge impact. The motivation you receive from them can make the different. So it is a team sport, however indirectly!

I was the same with calories, near my prep my calories were so damn low.. Now they are at 3,400 and I am almost just as lean, it's crazy. Try slowly introducing calories to maintenance if you start stalling for a while, then drop back down.

I can't keep up with this thread. Every time I come back it's 5 more pages of randomness.

Get with it dude!

The traffic here reminds me of Manu's log. I am contriburing of course, I am not denying this:D

I am an avid lurker of his log, a ton of motivation from him. He's such a great guy to represent this lifestyle.

We will make sure there is a "Clomabanus dude Part 2" before August is here.

Damn man, I'll be obese if I have to keep up with all the traffic.. goodbye life hello endless typing LOL

ya man, 20k views is nuts!

cum is nuts^^^

datz why

Wow.. never would have thought this log would have 20k views seriously! I do feel as if I need more videos, so I will try my hardest to get weekly videos, but at my gym, there are just so many bros it would be hard and awkward.. but I'll try!

Cumulonimbus

04-28-2011, 07:29 PM

Gotta get that extra burn in on the BB!

I am lazy, I just use my electric mixer >_>

Haha my shoulder actually got sore. I mix the fluff in an "S" pattern. Really gotta give it elbow grease for extra volume!

cum, I just wanna let you know that your log is an inspiration.

Thanks bro, appreciate it :)

Everybody loves Cum!

*blushes*

Thanks

It's good stuff man, really good if you're having sudden hunger lol.

Yo guy got any tips for the DB SLDL's? I'm not getting great activation from em, but then again my gym's only got up to 80 lb db's :( either that or occluded curls

With the DB SLDL's, I really like to stick my hips/ass out when going down and focusing on stretching the hamstrings. When performing the concentric portion of the movement, focus on keeping your lower back tight, and brining your hips and ass back in. It is a MMC type of movement, hence why I prefer the DB's.

Hey Cumulonimbus, How is the BB Armband workout out? it start to smell like a gym bag yet? The 2nd one they give to you, how is it in size? Around about the same to be able to swap it out while you clean the other one?

Nah dude, no smelly issues with the armband, and I don't think it'll ever stink up that bad to be honest.. never know though lol. Never tried on the second one though, it's just chilling in the box

Strong deads Paul, mirin'

Cheese balls.

Thanks for the sugar coat with regards to my deadlifts... they're pathetic!

Haha... the infamous google image search of "cheeseball"

I snapped my BB arm band. :(

Stop doing curls fo yo gurl(s ;)) son

You must've missed his arm pic in his log.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5634861194_cfc8712367.jpg

;) Mirin my fatceps?

Damn dude! Lookin' nasty.. got any measurements or are you a guy like me that doesn't like to measure? ;p

Also, how is your growth coming along since your last show? Happy with progress?

Finally;

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/34/60517345.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/60517345.jpg/)

Battle of the bi's!

you going to mcmaster, [late] this year?

Strong Hamilton area presence, and nah man.

Hey cumu, been following your thread since you started it, its awesome and great motivation. Just wondering if I could pm you some questions and ask for some advice?

Sure, just as long as it doesn't contain questions regarding frequency, if you are able to eat 1 tbsp PB with your toast, or GI :p

Anti-BS!

However, strong name to question content relevance

Joseph1990

04-28-2011, 08:43 PM

;) Mirin my fatceps?

Screw clum its all about the fatceps.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3306991&stc=1&d=1304048533
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3307001&stc=1&d=1304048533

PS Mad jelly of clum's shreadedness, will get there soon. For now fuuuuuuuuu.

juliacheh

04-28-2011, 08:55 PM

BRB Julia has no gunzzz :(
http://pics.livejournal.com/louie1977/pic/000dht0z/s640x480

Mirin' Paul's delts and biceps.

Joseph, you look good, stop whining;)

JohnBrowne

04-28-2011, 09:27 PM

brb Julia has bigger delts than I do
brb training shoulders 10x harder

foodpr0n

04-28-2011, 09:55 PM

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/foodpr0n/Photoon2010-09-19at1226.jpg

Shhiiity bi's = fml

t1ger

04-28-2011, 10:02 PM

Mirin' all ceps.

Having read your log, I think your device is defected. 2,000-2,200 TDEE on workout days along with your NEAT is a bit too low, regardless of your weight and height. There could be a possibility of hypothyroidism, but I kind of doubt that. Hows the scale? Is it showing that your current macros are working?Thanks for answering. :)

I have contated Bodymedia, so we'll see what they have to say about it. I think I'm gaining weight, at least now with the raised cals, but it's a little bit hard to tell.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/foodpr0n/Photoon2010-09-19at1226.jpg

Shhiiity bi's = fml
stfu.

foodpr0n

04-28-2011, 10:09 PM

stfu.

come@me, I have bad bicep genetics.
so you stfu

just cause arms are lean doesn't mean they are 'good'.

Joseph1990

04-28-2011, 10:12 PM

Julia strong delts and and upper chest serration.

come@me, I have bad bicep genetics.
so you stfu

just cause arms are lean doesn't mean they are 'good'.

stfu! you got dem der good arm genetics, what are those 17" daym.

t1ger

04-28-2011, 10:16 PM

come@me, I have bad bicep genetics.
so you stfu

just cause arms are lean doesn't mean they are 'good'.
Well, I think your bicep looks great. We'll just have to agree to disagree, then. ;)

adamrochester

04-29-2011, 12:35 AM

sorry man forgot ......got it now will cook up a storm on the weekend !

dude dose shoulder striations......

erick your arms look mass measure ments boi ??

foodpron ..... looking beast man

Joseph you 2 bro ..what do they measure ??

julia ... great work !! shoulders are looking like boulders

paul.> whats your favourite thing to do hitt on ? me personally i like car pushes or parachute sprints

Joseph1990

04-29-2011, 12:54 AM

Joseph you 2 bro ..what do they measure ??

16.5 meh.

bijsanei

04-29-2011, 01:41 AM

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3072/imagelf.jpg
Hey, all the cool kids are doin' it!

PS I agree with whoever said that this thread moves too fast. DAMN.

BRB catching up on 3 pages from this morning alone LOL

tofastforyou

04-29-2011, 02:37 AM

Hey mate, your a great motivation, really inspiring.
With your routine i was wondering if you are using layne nortons power hypertrophy routine or your own???
cheers.

banginator

04-29-2011, 03:53 AM

inspiring thread, i got all the motivation i need just by reading it.

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 04:25 AM

*blushes*

Just realized that looked phucking gay.. fml haha

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 05:09 AM

JpcCcpi8Zlk

B-ryminD09

04-29-2011, 07:32 AM

have been and will be lurkin in here.

cum ur conditioning is insane, def motivation for me to get and STAY lean.

Jenslyn17

04-29-2011, 07:44 AM

ko300zx

04-29-2011, 08:01 AM

ko300zx

04-29-2011, 08:02 AM

JpcCcpi8Zlk

Your theme song.

klByHG-dKR4

Jenslyn17

04-29-2011, 09:04 AM

Taken from the link you're sporting in your signature...

"Lyle McDonald paints a dark picture of life in the low body fat percentage-range. Yet I and my clients maintain a low body fat % without any of the often cited symptoms, such as anhedonia, low libido and a general sense of weakness.

I too experienced the aforementioned side-effects in the past, That is, before I finally "got it right."

True, and I think getting down is not so bad. But I also think that many people will have to sacrifice their well-being if they try to maintain contest-like conditioning over longer periods of time...

ko300zx

04-29-2011, 09:20 AM

True, and I think getting down is not so bad. But I also think that many people will have to sacrifice their well-being if they try to maintain contest-like conditioning over longer periods of time...

Point of my post was, Martin claims he and his clients can maintain the ~5% BF levels year round without many making sacrifices or suffering from the negative side effects associated with low BF%.

If you are following IF and don't mind the effort to get that low, which it seems you don't, you should go for it and see for yourself if you in fact can avoid these side effects as he claims you can. Since it isn't so bad to get there, if it's not working out for you, you haven't lost much.

Just my 2cents. I'm sure Cumpernickle will share his thoughts soon enough.

Jenslyn17

04-29-2011, 09:24 AM

Point of my post was, Martin claims he and his clients can maintain the ~5% BF levels year round without many making sacrifices or suffering from the negative side effects associated with low BF%.

If you are following IF and don't mind the effort to get that low, which it seems you don't, you should go for it and see for yourself if you in fact can avoid these side effects as he claims you can. Since it isn't so bad to get there, if it's not working out for you, you haven't lost much.

Just my 2cents. I'm sure Cumpernickle will share his thoughts soon enough.

Yes, but even Martin himself wasn't as ripped as Copernikus I reckon. And I maintain that, probably, many of us will experience a fair bit of "sides" from getting that low. But sure I'll try to get there, but I won't do it if I find that it's just living hell since I'm only doing this for my personal well-being, confidence and all of that stuff... not to compete and look my absolute best for a short period of time

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 09:28 AM

Hey Colomnubanus

I'm pretty cut up, but not shredded as you are/were. I'd like to ask you if you think that for you, personally, the conditioning would be worth the invested effort if it were only to look and feel good during the summer period and not to win any competition or anything? In other words: You didn't ever feel misrable during the extremely low bf-levels you reached? I think I'm about 7 or 8 % now and you are/were probably at 4-5 would be my guess... doesn't sound like that big of a difference but I imagine it takes great effort to get down there. On the other hand, it may just be that some people do better at low bf levels than others. I hear about guys from this forum all the time that get shredded for a competition but feel absolutely miserable in the final weeks...

Thanks for any insight! :-)

The only time I felt "miserable" aka dieted down were the 2 weeks prior to my show and the 3 weeks inbetween my first and second show.

This is such an individual question that it is something than only you can answer from personal experience. At this BF, I feel like I have a ton of energy. The only thing that sets me back at times is when the weather is crap (weather heavily influences my mood). Some people have a lowerish set-point, others don't. A ton of variables come into this sort of situation. Genetics, food intake, activity level, training frequency, sleeping patterns, outside influences such as stress, environment, etc. You shouldn't exactly try and stay at a low BF if you personally cannot sustain it mentally.

True, and I think getting down is not so bad. But I also think that many people will have to sacrifice their well-being if they try to maintain contest-like conditioning over longer periods of time...

As mentioned, it boils down to the individual. Some can, some can't. Look at Alberto Nunez for instance, the guy is rolling into a show this weekend and his strength has BARELY went down, he is not feeling dieted down, his hormones/libido is in check and he is around his natural set point. On the contrary, some people feel like death offseason at 10-12% BF and say they must be around 15ish %. It's a very individual situation where only you yourself can determine the answer.

So in class right now...bored, here's a nice research review if anyone is interested.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/physiological-elevation-of-endogenous-hormones-results-in-superior-strength-training-adaptations-research-review.html

ian0789

04-29-2011, 09:41 AM

The only time I felt "miserable" aka dieted down were the 2 weeks prior to my show and the 3 weeks inbetween my first and second show.

This is such an individual question that it is something than only you can answer from personal experience. At this BF, I feel like I have a ton of energy. The only thing that sets me back at times is when the weather is crap (weather heavily influences my mood). Some people have a lowerish set-point, others don't. A ton of variables come into this sort of situation. Genetics, food intake, activity level, training frequency, sleeping patterns, outside influences such as stress, environment, etc. You shouldn't exactly try and stay at a low BF if you personally cannot sustain it mentally.

As mentioned, it boils down to the individual. Some can, some can't. Look at Alberto Nunez for instance, the guy is rolling into a show this weekend and his strength has BARELY went down, he is not feeling dieted down, his hormones/libido is in check and he is around his natural set point. On the contrary, some people feel like death offseason at 10-12% BF and say they must be around 15ish %. It's a very individual situation where only you yourself can determine the answer.

So in class right now, here's a nice research review if anyone is interested.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/physiological-elevation-of-endogenous-hormones-results-in-superior-strength-training-adaptations-research-review.html

I gotta agree 100% on that :) great post!

Jenslyn17

04-29-2011, 09:46 AM

Thanks! I'll for sure see how low I can get while still feeling well and energized... completely striated glutes on the long-term might be a stretch, but it sure would be cool :D

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 09:55 AM

Jenslyn17

04-29-2011, 10:12 AM

Great posts about low bodyfat, wealth of info here, thank you, guys.
I personally can maintain about 17% - nor problem, never been any lower than that, shooting for this now, don't know if will succeed, because I am doing this on my own.

I posted my last picture just for fun on a different fitness board, and some people told me that I look like a man
:D:D
I've used your pics a couple of times to show some girls from my college that women can actually put on muscle... they seem to think that that hormonal shortcomings would hinder any gains, but obviously you can achieve quite a bit!

Very impressive :-)

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 10:15 AM

I've used your pics a couple of times to show some girls from my college that women can actually put on muscle... they seem to think that that hormonal shortcomings would hinder any gains, but obviously you can achieve quite a bit!

Very impressive :-)

Thank you, and my test levels are not higher than normal, I specifically asked the doctor about this:)

AllGenetix

04-29-2011, 10:48 AM

Yes, but even Martin himself wasn't as ripped as Copernikus I reckon. And I maintain that, probably, many of us will experience a fair bit of "sides" from getting that low. But sure I'll try to get there, but I won't do it if I find that it's just living hell since I'm only doing this for my personal well-being, confidence and all of that stuff... not to compete and look my absolute best for a short period of time
im sure you have noticed that your test levels go into the ****ter the leaner you get. for some, the body is hypersensitive to getting below a certain bodyweight/fat level and will down regulate a lot of hormones

ErickStevens

04-29-2011, 11:16 AM

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 11:17 AM

Everybody is different. When I hit 8% and below my strength, libido, and energy levels plummet. Now that I'm around 15% I feel so much better, although I do bear a striking resemblance to a Gummi Bear.

LOL, Erick, bodybuilders are so hard on themselves, many regular joes would die to be 15% bf:)

JohnBrowne

04-29-2011, 11:21 AM

brb I have abs but still feel fat as f*ck

Ghosting

04-29-2011, 12:12 PM

ko300zx

04-29-2011, 01:03 PM

LOL. Whatever. ITT : almost everyone criticizes themselves. Every pic was good and yet the poster insults themselves. LOL. Everyone has a physique that far surpasses the average Joe but they hate on themselves. :D

Me reading through the log :
[IMG]http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9085/nnslzt.png[IMG] (http://img848.imageshack.us/i/nnslzt.png/)

That's a good thing. While they might not look bad like their self-haterization would make you think, the fact that they are not satisfied and are seeking improvements only means good things to come. I suspect a lot of that from the regulars here...hence why they are here. The dedicated few.

Ghosting

04-29-2011, 01:20 PM

That's a good thing. While they might not look bad like their self-haterization would make you think, the fact that they are not satisfied and are seeking improvements only means good things to come. I suspect a lot of that from the regulars here...hence why they are here. The dedicated few.

Ya, being a critic or hard on yourself is good motivation. It's just kinda funny at the same time. :)

danzink

04-29-2011, 01:21 PM

In on this.... rediculously late but watever.

Interesting log man, gave me inspiration to use fitday to plan out my short 3 week cut coming up, and eat peanut butter, cereal and bacon (always stayed away from them on cuts because I couldn't fit them in to my mental diet, but now can plan down to the final gram).

Oh and cause every1 else is doing it:

http://www.4freeimagehost.com/uploads/PUSH254fdbb7886d.jpg

:P

viridian

04-29-2011, 01:22 PM

This thread has turned into the GUN SHOW!!!!

Hellz Yeah :D

Great posts about low bodyfat, wealth of info here, thank you, guys.
I personally can maintain about 17% - nor problem, never been any lower than that, shooting for this now, don't know if will succeed, because I am doing this on my own.

I posted my last picture just for fun on a different fitness board, and some people told me that I look like a man
:D:D

Success! lol

I get that comment about my back and chest quite a bit... my arms havent leaned out enough quite yet to be getting that far... look out in the next two weeks though!

JohnBrowne

04-29-2011, 01:33 PM

viridian

04-29-2011, 01:42 PM

waitwut?

:P Upper chest - seperation from delts to upper pecs, down the middle, feint striations when benching, flyes, etc - LOL my chest is pretty thick for my training age on top of being a girl

Should have specified that one haha!

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 01:45 PM

lol wth is up with the pics being posted. Just me and Eric, bro-faceoff.

cantwait2lift

04-29-2011, 01:50 PM

lol wth is up with the pics being posted. Just me and Eric, bro-faceoff.

damn it at work

can't get in on the bicep showdown

see avi

JohnBrowne

04-29-2011, 01:50 PM

:P Upper chest - seperation from delts to upper pecs, down the middle, feint striations when benching, flyes, etc - LOL my chest is pretty thick for my training age on top of being a girl

Should have specified that one haha!

Why do such women only exist on the internet?

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 01:52 PM

Why do such women only exist on the internet?

I am real

:D

JohnBrowne

04-29-2011, 01:54 PM

I am real

:D

I have yet to meet a single female in real life that is less than ten years older than me that takes lifting/dieting seriously.

fuuuuuuuuuu
uuuuuuuu
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u

cantwait2lift

04-29-2011, 01:54 PM

I am real

:D

tell me truth robot woman! :)

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 02:13 PM

Screw clum its all about the fatceps.

[img]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3306991&stc=1&d=1304048533[/mg]
[img]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3307001&stc=1&d=1304048533[img]

PS Mad jelly of clum's shreadedness, will get there soon. For now fuuuuuuuuu.

Holy crap dude, your delts and bi's are full as phuck. Wait till dat dere dieting magic pays off!

BRB Julia has no gunzzz :(
[img]http://pics.livejournal.com/louie1977/pic/000dht0z/s640x480[img]

Mirin' Paul's delts and biceps.

Joseph, you look good, stop whining;)

Oh just shutty you! Julia = female aesthetic Goddess

[IMG]http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/foodpr0n/Photoon2010-09-19at1226.jpg[IMG]

Shhiiity bi's = fml

Sh!tty bi's, lol wut? Strong peaks dude. How recent is that?

Mirin' all ceps.

Thanks for answering. :)

I have contated Bodymedia, so we'll see what they have to say about it. I think I'm gaining weight, at least now with the raised cals, but it's a little bit hard to tell.

Hopefully they refund your product. As I mentioned earlier in either my thread or your thread, try daily morning weigh ins after bowel movement and peepee. If no bowel movement, record it next to your weigh in number to keep track.

sorry man forgot ......got it now will cook up a storm on the weekend !

dude dose shoulder striations......

erick your arms look mass measure ments boi ??

foodpron ..... looking beast man

Joseph you 2 bro ..what do they measure ??

julia ... great work !! shoulders are looking like boulders

paul.> whats your favourite thing to do hitt on ? me personally i like car pushes or parachute sprints

So you find a cheeseball under my fitday yet forget that you can find the recipe there lolwut.

For HIIT I like to either sprint or go on the stationary bike.

[img]http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3072/imagelf.jpg[img]
Hey, all the cool kids are doin' it!

PS I agree with whoever said that this thread moves too fast. DAMN.

BRB catching up on 3 pages from this morning alone LOL

As I mentioned in your thread earlier, for your size those bis are impressive, keep it up. I better see some magic happening at the beginning of your workout week.

Hey mate, your a great motivation, really inspiring.
With your routine i was wondering if you are using layne nortons power hypertrophy routine or your own???
cheers.

Thanks dude. You can't exactly call it Layne's routine since he didn't make it up, but rather popularized it. I do follow a WSB/PHAT mix. I perform mainly WSB's ME days. I am thinking of running a WSB full out in the near future.

inspiring thread, i got all the motivation i need just by reading it.

I get all the motivation from you guys... legs in 30 minutes or so! Thanks :D

have been and will be lurkin in here.

cum ur conditioning is insane, def motivation for me to get and STAY lean.

Thanks man, watch those cals, enjoy the food and train hard!

Great posts about low bodyfat, wealth of info here, thank you, guys.
I personally can maintain about 17% - nor problem, never been any lower than that, shooting for this now, don't know if will succeed, because I am doing this on my own.

I posted my last picture just for fun on a different fitness board, and some people told me that I look like a man
:D:D

You got to a PHENOMENAL build for a female. Perfect balance of femininity and muscularity. If you are saying that you can't get to a lower BF%, you are just being tough on yourself.. really. PS Will you be making a journal anytime soon?

You know you outwork people when guys mistake your avatar photo for a man's back!

I've used your pics a couple of times to show some girls from my college that women can actually put on muscle... they seem to think that that hormonal shortcomings would hinder any gains, but obviously you can achieve quite a bit!

Very impressive :-)

Thank you, and my test levels are not higher than normal, I specifically asked the doctor about this:)

Julia is quite the inspiration, for both males and females. The lady has gotten past the bullcrap info, built a better physique than most males on this site, and is so damn humble. Keep up the hardwork, because it surely has an impact on all of us :)

im sure you have noticed that your test levels go into the ****ter the leaner you get. for some, the body is hypersensitive to getting below a certain bodyweight/fat level and will down regulate a lot of hormones

I noticed hormonal issue when my calories were low as opposed to BF levels. BTW what did your bodybugg say your burn on an average day, I know you eat like 650g+ CHO daily and stay lean as phuck.. also what is your BF and goals in BB?

fitnessbyjay

04-29-2011, 02:21 PM

I have yet to meet a single female in real life that is less than ten years older than me that takes lifting/dieting seriously.

fuuuuuuuuuu
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My ex girlfriend for 2.5 years, was pretty nice.

viridian

04-29-2011, 02:21 PM

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133776321&page=3
^^ Julias journal ;)

And I gotta get in on the gun show... my only "gunz" pic is attatched, from Easter... not actually flexed, lol couldnt get my camera to take and then the battery died before heading to church... love the pic though, makes me LOL :D

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 02:27 PM

Everybody is different. When I hit 8% and below my strength, libido, and energy levels plummet. Now that I'm around 15% I feel so much better, although I do bare a striking resemblance to a Gummi Bear.

Us bodybuilders :o

LOL, Erick, bodybuilders are so hard on themselves, many regular joes would die to be 15% bf:)

Haha yeah it's pretty awkward. People always want a six pack and stuff but when it comes to body composition, that is the least of my worries haha.

brb I have abs but still feel fat as f*ck

As mentioned, us bodybuilders ;)

LOL. Whatever. ITT : almost everyone criticizes themselves. Every pic was good and yet the poster insults themselves. LOL. Everyone has a physique that far surpasses the average Joe but they hate on themselves. :D

Me reading through the log :
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9085/nnslzt.png (http://img848.imageshack.us/i/nnslzt.png)

I guess that's the thing that got us to where we are. The need and want for more. That along with not racking discipline = great physique!

That's a good thing. While they might not look bad like their self-haterization would make you think, the fact that they are not satisfied and are seeking improvements only means good things to come. I suspect a lot of that from the regulars here...hence why they are here. The dedicated few.

It is a good thing, and the posters posting their pictures are simply wanting more. However, there are cases were people truly suffer from body dysmorphia and go to the extremes to reach a particular body image, and even then they are not satisfied. But as stated, this type of non satisfaction is good, but hopefully it does not come down to an unhealthy extreme.

Ya, being a critic or hard on yourself is good motivation. It's just kinda funny at the same time. :)

Sure is!

In on this.... rediculously late but watever.

Interesting log man, gave me inspiration to use fitday to plan out my short 3 week cut coming up, and eat peanut butter, cereal and bacon (always stayed away from them on cuts because I couldn't fit them in to my mental diet, but now can plan down to the final gram).

Oh and cause every1 else is doing it:

[img]http://www.4freeimagehost.com/uploads/PUSH254fdbb7886d.jpg[img]

:P

Welcome

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 02:33 PM

This thread has turned into the GUN SHOW!!!!

Hellz Yeah :D

Success! lol

I get that comment about my back and chest quite a bit... my arms havent leaned out enough quite yet to be getting that far... look out in the next two weeks though!

I can critique you know, jus sayin..

:P Upper chest - seperation from delts to upper pecs, down the middle, feint striations when benching, flyes, etc - LOL my chest is pretty thick for my training age on top of being a girl

Should have specified that one haha!

Only if girls I knew IRL had this mentality.. wtf!

damn it at work

can't get in on the bicep showdown

see avi

lol

Why do such women only exist on the internet?

This. Great body, not semi-retarded, enjoy food, and express their hard working personality... FUU

I am real

:D

When you said that, the phrase "Realize.. real eyes" sprung to mind... then this photo

http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/01/30/18985872/gallerypic/1D9D9DEbLa2EM8cn7gWwCu45sbw962e.jpeg

Strong want.

I have yet to meet a single female in real life that is less than ten years older than me that takes lifting/dieting seriously.

fuuuuuuuuuu
uuuuuuuu
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uuuu
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uu
u

LOL. My gym is packed with cardio bunnies lol

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133776321&page=3
^^ Julias journal ;)

And I gotta get in on the gun show... my only "gunz" pic is attatched, from Easter... not actually flexed, lol couldnt get my camera to take and then the battery died before heading to church... love the pic though, makes me LOL :D

Bodybuilding.com Forums > Specifically For You > Female Bodybuilding

that's the issue...

viridian

04-29-2011, 02:39 PM

My bestie/unrelated sister is also a gym rat - She's in KY now, soon to be on the east coast in South Carolina. There are a few of us here and there.

Its pretty rare to find guys really into training and nutrition - most gym boys are mirror muscle nuts - biceps and bench press FTW followed by post workout beers! :rolleyes:

Joseph1990

04-29-2011, 02:42 PM

Strong want.

Oh lawd, over the shoulder look and them eyes.

This (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photo/6608482) one is my fave if I had to choose. (no lurker :p)

coals

04-29-2011, 03:14 PM

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8115/photo01382.jpg

When can it be mines turn for bicep? :(

Disregard facial expression, havent slept properly in days. Finals week is next week :(

Webber91

04-29-2011, 03:54 PM

Sorry Paul, I had to do it...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/kylewebber/64a7902b.jpghttp://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/kylewebber/68e0b02e.jpg

Will trade bicepz 4 tan.

coals

04-29-2011, 04:00 PM

Sorry Paul, I had to do it...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albus/aa63/kylewebber/64a7902b.jpg[/MG][IMG]http://i196.photobucket.com/albus/aa63/kylewebber/68e0b02e.jpg

Will trade bicepz 4 tan.

deal

coals

04-29-2011, 04:13 PM

[ig]http://goldenmucles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/heath.jpg[/img]

I didn't know you were black.

Strong lighting in avi

midcoastking33

04-29-2011, 04:25 PM

Unofficial white knight thread!!!!!!!

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 05:26 PM

holy chill out ppl lol

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 05:30 PM

OMG, Paul, Joseph what did you do??;)
Now I will be accused of cougar behavior even more :D:D
Geez, I've never received so many compliments.
Thank you, guys.

Viridian gave away my journal, what should be your punishment, girl? :)
not srs

joelash302

04-29-2011, 05:31 PM

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 05:32 PM

After my cardio session I am going to treat my lungs to a nice delightful toke session of hookah. My post cardio protocol. Dat dere watermelon, yum.

juliacheh

04-29-2011, 05:32 PM

Whatever the punishment is, vids plz.

LOL Joel, maybe I was thinking that she should Fran tonight and videotaope it:D

l2ambo

04-29-2011, 05:32 PM

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5634861194_cfc8712367.jpg

;) mirin my fatceps?

screw clum its all about the fatceps.

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[ihttp://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3307001&stc=1&d=1304048533[/

ps mad jelly of clum's shreadedness, will get there soon. For now fuuuuuuuuu.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/foodpr0n/photoon2010-09-19at1226.jpg

shhiiity bi's = fml

[i]http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3072/imagelf.jpg[/
hey, all the cool kids are doin' it!

Ps i agree with whoever said that this thread moves too fast. Damn.

Brb catching up on 3 pages from this morning alone lol

in on this.... Rediculously late but watever.

Interesting log man, gave me inspiration to use fitday to plan out my short 3 week cut coming up, and eat peanut butter, cereal and bacon (always stayed away from them on cuts because i couldn't fit them in to my mental diet, but now can plan down to the final gram).

Oh and cause every1 else is doing it:

G]http://www.4freeimagehost.com/uploads/push254fdbb7886d.jpg[/i

:p

g]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8115/photo01382.jpg

when can it be mines turn for bicep? :(

disregard facial expression, havent slept properly in days. Finals week is next week :(

sorry paul, i had to do it...

G]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/kylewebber/64a7902b.jpg[/][g]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/kylewebber/68e0b02e.jpg[/i

will trade bicepz 4 tan.

http://goldenmuscles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/heath.jpg

brb training biceps. (Had to leave Phil Heaths up, they just too epic.)

joelash302

04-29-2011, 05:33 PM

LOL Joel, maybe I was thinking that she should Fran tonight and videotaope it:D

Dreams shattered.

zhall616

04-29-2011, 05:34 PM

After my cardio session I am going to treat my lungs to a nice delightful toke session of hookah. My post cardio protocol. Dat dere watermelon, yum.

hookah=amazing. Redbull shisha is the best!

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 05:40 PM

Mixed fruit is awesome!

zhall616

04-29-2011, 05:58 PM

Mixed fruit is awesome!

agreed. chocolate is a good combo with anything. I like to mix mine! my hookah is broken right now. my friend left the vase outside when temps dropped below freezing and the vase cracked. i was pissed!

Cumulonimbus

04-29-2011, 06:02 PM

Hmm the bar I'm going to doesn't have chocolate, couldn't imagine how that would taste.

I'm just waiting for my rush of nonstop pissing hits me post workout so I can finish that and go do my name cardio.

I drink roughly 2.5L throughout my workout... I'm like a racehorse 30-45 minutes after my workout.. it's like clockwork LOL.

zhall616

04-29-2011, 06:04 PM

you should try it if you see it! whats your cardio like?

adamrochester

04-29-2011, 11:23 PM

what else is in the hookah tobacco or what ?

viridian

04-30-2011, 12:03 AM

I dont understand the hype with hookah... is it just flavored smokey/air??

OMG, Paul, Joseph what did you do??;)
Now I will be accused of cougar behavior even more :D:D
Geez, I've never received so many compliments.
Thank you, guys.

Viridian gave away my journal, what should be your punishment, girl? :)
not srs
I think you should mail me the cheesecake thing you made and make me fit it all in my macros for one day :-D

Whatever the punishment is, vids plz.

bahaha!

bijsanei

04-30-2011, 01:38 AM

After my cardio session I am going to treat my lungs to a nice delightful toke session of hookah. My post cardio protocol. Dat dere watermelon, yum.

Grape-mint FTW. Used to hit up sheesh sesh's on the regular, but its been SO long. Maybe when I come to tdot you could show me some sick spots homie;) selection is limited in Ottawa lol

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 03:18 AM

I think you should mail me the cheesecake thing you made and make me fit it all in my macros for one day :-D

Come on girlie,
Protein 69 grams
Fat 59 grams
Carbs 81 grams

Not that hard, right?
;);)

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 06:10 AM

you should try it if you see it! whats your cardio like?

There was no chocolate.. bummer. I went with coconut pina-colada , good stuff.

I already posted my cardio ;) However 3x a week I do LISS for 30 minutes.

what else is in the hookah tobacco or what ?

Molasses.

I dont understand the hype with hookah... is it just flavored smokey/air??

It's flavored molasses, it's very smooth and has a good amount of flavor. Definitely a nice relaxant.

Grape-mint FTW. Used to hit up sheesh sesh's on the regular, but its been SO long. Maybe when I come to tdot you could show me some sick spots homie;) selection is limited in Ottawa lol

Haha I'm down dude

Come on girlie,
Protein 69 grams
Fat 59 grams
Carbs 81 grams

Not that hard, right?
;);)

Now I might sound dumb, but damn that is a lot of fat for 1 meal! I would only have 15g of fat left for the day :p Just chicken breast, egg whites and kids cereal haha.

shawn3087

04-30-2011, 07:10 AM

yo paul how u finding the bodybugg? looks interesting...

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:16 AM

Thursday

Chest and Back

Decline BB Press
185x10
185x10
185x11

Hammer chins
BWx9
BWx10
BWx10

Incline DB Press
75x12
80x8.5 :(
80x8.5 :(

Overhand BB Row
195x10
195x10
195x10

Pecdec - HS Close Grip Pulldown
160x12 2pps+10x12
160x12 2ppsx12

Nutrition
220/475/75

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3664/apr28.png (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/apr28.png/)
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1266/apr281.png (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/apr281.png/)

Expenditure
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/629/bodybuggapr28.png (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/bodybuggapr28.png/)

The eats
Apple & cinnamon oats, veggie omelet
Blueberry bagel, WW bread with veggies cheese and deli meat
Chicken burgers and fries
Sludge, honey shreddies, quaker life cinnamon, sliced banana and blueberries
Veggie omelet, yogurt topped with raspberries and cereal

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2867/img1225s.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/img1225s.jpg/)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5820/img1226v.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/img1226v.jpg/)
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6332/img1248m.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/img1248m.jpg/)

Extras
Good workout, however not stoked on my incline DB press and hammer chinup strength. I gotta start focusing on my thickness, lotta trap work is calling.

zhall616

04-30-2011, 07:16 AM

damn I seem to do that alot. I'm not really a fan of grape. Hookah also doesn't make you leave with a smell, it's way smoother (and cool) going down, and it's fukcing awesome for rings and stuff

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:31 AM

Friday

Legs

Leg Press Really stoked
5pps+25sx12
5pps+35x12
5pps+35x12

Deadlift Gave most of my gas for this
295x8
295x8
315x10
315x10

Seated Calves
200x12
200x12
200x12

Seated straight leg calves
190x15
190x15
190x15

DB SLDL Got a bit sloppy with last set
105x10
105x10

Leg Extension - Lying Leg curl Had to drop, damn
190x15 110x15
175x15 95x15

Nutrition
220/475/75

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4016/apr29.png (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/apr29.png/)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7554/apr291.png (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/apr291.png/)

Expenditure
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7931/bodybuggapr29.png (http://img806.imageshack.us/i/bodybuggapr29.png/)

The Eats
Pumpkin oats, veggie omelet
Rye bread with veggies cheese and deli meat
Pancakes, strawberries, chicken
Sludge, Honey Bunches of Oats Pecan, Honey Shreddies, banana, blackberries
Veggie omelet, Cadbury Creme egg, Cadbury Caramilk egg, strawberries and blackberries

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4408/img1250u.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img1250u.jpg/)
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8307/img1254br.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/img1254br.jpg/)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6593/img1267t.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/img1267t.jpg/)

Extras
Super stoked on the Leg press and the deadlifts were solid! I could have kept the intensity a bit lower with those two movements so the rest of my workout wouldn't suffer, but I kind of said whatever..

Got a video of some sloppy SLDLs. I usually always perform them at the begging, and if later then with around 80-90lbs, but I stuck with my usual weight as if I started off with them.. silly me

mqV8dwR4KT0
Note: Despite my horrendous form you can see what I mean by lacking some upper back and trap thickness.. gotta get on that!

Did 30 minutes of LISS, then went out to have some post cardio hookah.

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:35 AM

yo paul how u finding the bodybugg? looks interesting...

It's friggin awesome man, it really makes you open your eyes and realize that you don't burn as much as you think you do some some activities, and you burn a lot more for others you underestimate. Yesterday in class we had a supply so I decided to fidget my foot (toes on the group, heel just bouncing) and my kcal burn while sitting was 2.1-2.3! Normal it's around 1.5. It's pretty sensitive.

damn I seem to do that alot. I'm not really a fan of grape. Hookah also doesn't make you leave with a smell, it's way smoother (and cool) going down, and it's fukcing awesome for rings and stuff

Yeah man, when you enter the bar, the smell is overwhelming, in a good way. I don't smoke regular tobacco. Never have and don't plan on, but hookah is a nice treat. I don't think the bar I go to has grape either. I want to try mango, I've heard good things about that flavor.

zhall616

04-30-2011, 08:04 AM

Yeah man, when you enter the bar, the smell is overwhelming, in a good way. I don't smoke regular tobacco. Never have and don't plan on, but hookah is a nice treat. I don't think the bar I go to has grape either. I want to try mango, I've heard good things about that flavor.[/QUOTE]

I have an occasional cigar with my dad and bros or while playing golf (feel like an old man). I users to smoke hookah weekly, sometimes 2-3 times a week lol. Mango is probably my favorite fruit flavor! definitely try that one!

shawn3087

04-30-2011, 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=Cumulonimbus;673106431]It's friggin awesome man, it really makes you open your eyes and realize that you don't burn as much as you think you do some some activities, and you burn a lot more for others you underestimate. Yesterday in class we had a supply so I decided to fidget my foot (toes on the group, heel just bouncing) and my kcal burn while sitting was 2.1-2.3! Normal it's around 1.5. It's pretty sensitive. QUOTE]

thats awsome! i would love that cuz some days im just laying around whereas when Im at work I'm running all over the place and carrying weights around. will look into this, which one did u get?

tagun

04-30-2011, 09:04 AM

It may be that I'm unaware and have been doing SLDL (okay it's more of a RDL hybrid anyway) with REALLY terrible form, but it looks to me like your form was pretty much spot on. Nice deep ROM, okay TUT and back was not even close to rounding.

Guess I'm doing it wrong then! :D

PM12345

04-30-2011, 10:27 AM

Sure, just as long as it doesn't contain questions regarding frequency, if you are able to eat 1 tbsp PB with your toast, or GI :p

Anti-BS!

However, strong name to question content relevance

Sounds good man, I PM'd you

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 11:19 AM

I'm anal about my form, and I was not satisfied haha.

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 11:40 AM

Not enough TUT/control on the eccentric and a bit shaky.

coals

04-30-2011, 11:48 AM

I'm anal about my form, and I was not satisfied haha.

I'm exactly the same way brah :\

Brb my deadlift is textbook perfect and yet I still find ways to nitpick

Jenslyn17

04-30-2011, 12:09 PM

Not enough TUT/control on the eccentric and a bit shaky.

Do you feel like it's very important to keep the weight under control at all times and all that? I think it has helped me lately to be more concerned with this stuff... also indirectly because it makes your sets take longer than when you power through reps.

I've seen so many knowledgable give completely different versions of how reps should be performed for mass... Pretty much came to the conclusion that I should generally be quite strict and keep TUT high :-)

mike201011

04-30-2011, 12:41 PM

Great log brah, been lurkin from the start. Can you tell me what program you started on if any and if you didnt what was your training regime like?
Inspirational log brah,
Mike.

Mr.Cooper69

04-30-2011, 03:34 PM

Alright, alright, alright. Subbed :D.

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:14 PM

I see. I have a mixed opinion about the product ATM.

Going to throw a card right now..

AA -

Hopefully that signal works :cool:

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 07:16 PM

Perfect deadlifts, but that video brought some bad memories for me lulz.
I screwed up my back on this exercise:).

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:30 PM

thats awsome! i would love that cuz some days im just laying around whereas when Im at work I'm running all over the place and carrying weights around. will look into this, which one did u get?

Yeah dude my on and offdays differ by 400-500 calories. That's why I was spilling over before on 475, because I was ramping 475g CHO on sedentary days LOL. I got the SP one. Hooks up to your smartphone :p It was like $25 extra so I said why not lol

It may be that I'm unaware and have been doing SLDL (okay it's more of a RDL hybrid anyway) with REALLY terrible form, but it looks to me like your form was pretty much spot on. Nice deep ROM, okay TUT and back was not even close to rounding.

Guess I'm doing it wrong then! :D

Well as DG mentioned, the form [i]is[/b] good, but I am anal about TUT and stability and no bouncing etc. My calve extercises have a long TUT due to a lot of pausing to avoid any bouncing and activation of the achilles tendon as opposed to my gastrocnemius and partial involvement of the soleus.

I'm exactly the same way brah :\

Brb my deadlift is textbook perfect and yet I still find ways to nitpick

Right on, sounds just like me :p

Do you feel like it's very important to keep the weight under control at all times and all that? I think it has helped me lately to be more concerned with this stuff... also indirectly because it makes your sets take longer than when you power through reps.

I've seen so many knowledgable give completely different versions of how reps should be performed for mass... Pretty much came to the conclusion that I should generally be quite strict and keep TUT high :-)

Well it really depends. For my hypertrophy/higher rep days, I like to keep textbook form and utilize TUT. On my power days I will sometimes go sloppy to overload and haul as much weight as possible. However that doesn't mean you will see my deadlifting with a round back and squatting quarter reps or bouncing on BB press lol.

Great log brah, been lurkin from the start. Can you tell me what program you started on if any and if you didnt what was your training regime like?
Inspirational log brah,
Mike.

Thanks dude! I started off doing 1 muscle group a day, then unknowingly moved onto a split VERY similar to Lyles generic bulking routine. I then went back to the one group a day for about 4 months and after that I've been doing a mix of PHAT and WSB. I think I will be having a deload this week.. not too sure. So either another run to try and break PR's, or deload, or just move straight into new ME exercises. I'll be running WSB for another cycle and then going onto either Lyles routine or sheiko if my cals get over ~3,650.

Alright, alright, alright. Subbed :D.

I've seen high-dose R-ALA given to type-2 diabetics in a clinical setting. That's compelling enough for me. :p

inb4 Alan says all supplements are overrated lulz

Exactly the reason behind my mixed opinion, those clinical trial studies.

Perfect deadlifts, but that video brought some bad memories for me lulz.
I screwed up my back on this exercise:).

Thank you, but you know me and I am still not satisfied with the form!

Ouch, what exactly was the issue? Rounded back? Too much weight?

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 07:32 PM

Ouch, what exactly was the issue? Rounded back? Too much weight?

I was stupid, I was swimming literally all day and then I decided to go train - it was last summer. My lower back just snapped. After that I have to be very careful. If I am not careful, my back hurts for a few days after a session.
My own fault - sheer stupidity.

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:36 PM

:(

The only time I had an issue was around this time of last year. I was going for 4 plates and either a 25 or 35 for 2 reps. Got the first one, second one about 3/4 up and then I had to abort. It felt extremely tight and putting on my socks was the worst thing on earth, it was EXTREMELY painful. Other than that no issue whatsoever. I still put thought and precaution into my ME exercises however.

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 07:50 PM

I know that Lyle is against ALA these days. Also a study showing activation of muscle AMPK, however... a rat study.

Mr.Cooper69

04-30-2011, 08:23 PM

Either way, if youre going to use ALA, make sure it is Na-R-Ala.

Mr.Cooper69

04-30-2011, 08:42 PM

I use

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/store/media/catalog/product/i/n/insopro_r.jpg

If you guys are looking for good nutrient partitioners, Slin-sane and Glycobol are far and away better than products like these.

AllGenetix

04-30-2011, 08:46 PM

good ole exercise is the BEST nutrient partitioner

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 08:49 PM

What are nutrient partitioners?

Mr.Cooper69

04-30-2011, 08:52 PM

good ole exercise is the BEST nutrient partitioner

Agreed.

Explain.

Very insightful post, thank you.

On phone, but if you have time, do some research on the ingredients.

What are nutrient partitioners?

Basically GDAs that maximize nutrient delivery to muscle (accelerate glycogen resynthesis). You dont need it Julia, they're more tailored for people who don't understand/track their nutrition, and have inconsistent dieting leading to inconsistent progress.

AllGenetix

04-30-2011, 08:54 PM

brb, snorting metformin before bed and getting all hypo

not serious.jpg

mannydawg

04-30-2011, 08:58 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if IFBB pros have metformin in their cocktail LOL

nah they inject that there insulin instead...

mannydawg

04-30-2011, 09:08 PM

I imagine GDAs would enhance the effect. I'm not going to pretend to know though... LOL

/discussion before we get in murky waters. lol

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 09:17 PM

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/JackoTheDweeb/MichaelJacksonPopcorn.gif

Keto section

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 09:19 PM

That thread about 5000 calories a day is lulz for days.
I respect Pug very much, but overall I understand it now why Alan uses the term "ketards".

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 09:24 PM

That thread about 5000 calories a day is lulz for days.
I respect Pug very much, but overall I understand it now why Alan uses the term "ketards".

Exactly, I have no issue with keto, but when crap like that is getting tossed around, a line has to be drawn.

Plus, Pug is doing CKD I believe.

Webber91

04-30-2011, 09:24 PM

Yo! Definitely an advocate of R-ALA supplementation. It improves insulin sensitivity and nutrient partitioning and is pretty cheap too.

If you have the money then go for it.

Definitely agree here, it's one of the few things I've actually experienced "work" for me. I just take plain R-ALA at around 800mg/day. Noticed effects within the first few days, haven't had a day without it in 5 months.

inb4 placebo effekt.

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 09:25 PM

Exactly, I have no issue with keto, but when crap like that is getting tossed around, a line has to be drawn.

Plus, Pug is doing CKD I believe.

I think you are right about Pug and he is only doing it to cut. To bulk he takes 150 grams of CHO per day.

ilovegreg05

04-30-2011, 09:25 PM

Cum, I always see you talk about photoshoots and stuff..

Do you model or are you photographer..etc?

just curious what you do other than school, lift, eat, post on bb.com and make everyone jelly.

juliacheh

04-30-2011, 09:26 PM

Definitely agree here, it's one of the few things I've actually experienced "work" for me. I just take plain R-ALA at around 800mg/day. Noticed effects within the first few days, haven't had a day without it in 5 months.

inb4 placebo effekt.

Sometimes it is really hard with supplements.
I swear that when I am taking probiotic on a regular basis, I get sick less frequently, have better digestion and feel better overall. But I cant prove anything because this is anecdotal experience.

Mr.Cooper69

04-30-2011, 09:27 PM

Definitely agree here, it's one of the few things I've actually experienced "work" for me. I just take plain R-ALA at around 800mg/day. Noticed effects within the first few days, haven't had a day without it in 5 months.

inb4 placebo effekt.

The effect is real. But take Na-R-Ala man! The ignorance is killing me!

jk, but srs, take Na-R-Ala :)

foodpr0n

04-30-2011, 09:27 PM

As gentix said - exercise is your king partioner.
...as is....wait for it....

NEAT! :D

This may be purely anecdotal at this point - as in I haven't seen studies thus far on TDEE and partioning general. Kirk? Perhaps you can shed some light if there are.

I mean you look at athletes. Alan has, via email correspondance mentioned that he's seen countless young athletes go through dramatic body recomposition changes without ever fulking. Yes, they might not be IFBB pro's, but just something to think about perhaps.

They are a population who have high activity levels. I mean even have a look at holyspokes' transformation over the few years he has pics up - you'll see outstanding results....outstanding levels of activity too.

I have friends who are in top level sports in our country and they grow fine without getting 'fat' per se. Some even have mediocre genetics in that region in that they weren't lean all their life, but now under high levels of training and good diets - composition gets better everytime I see them

Dun dun duuuuuun, Berardi perhaps might have been onto something wrt g-flux?
PERHAPHS.

*Note if you look him up - don't take much of what he says on board:p

I am not really all for the 'minimalistic' crap anymore. :cool:
Here is a WONDERFUL article on the state of most people's minds these days. I mean, training and shiiiit - I love it.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/knowledge/fast-food-solutions-fast-food-problems

I also suggest anyone who reads that post check out at least the last 20 articles Perryman has written! :D They are exceptional. Another one here on exercise and dopamine too actually. An 'activity set-point'.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/exercise-science/cortical-lottery-dopamine-activity-setpoint-research-review

Cumulonimbus

04-30-2011, 09:35 PM

adamrochester

04-30-2011, 10:48 PM

Definitely agree here, it's one of the few things I've actually experienced "work" for me. I just take plain R-ALA at around 800mg/day. Noticed effects within the first few days, haven't had a day without it in 5 months.

inb4 placebo effekt.

i take ala i beleive it works ... also kyle do you ever get heart burn or reflux from it ? i get it a faire bit about 5-10 mins after i have a pill

Will catch up on replies and updates tm.. I need sleep. Sorry! I hit 3539 cals today. We'll see on Monday/Tuesday how my body corresponds with the kcal increase and the accuracy of the Bodybugg. So far the thing is looking accurate in terms of picking up me fidgeting, etc. So if a need for kcals calls, I'll be upping PRO and FAT. Looking at 80/475/240

yo do you time your rest breaks .? or just go when ever you feel ready again ?

good stiff legs to man no harry half reps in here !

alan aragon

04-30-2011, 10:59 PM

I see. I have a mixed opinion about the product ATM.

Going to throw a card right now..

AA -

Hopefully that signal works :cool:As yet, R-ALA has not been tested in non-diabetics, let alone non-diabetics on a structured training program. While orally administered R-ALA has been seen to improve glucose tolerance & insulin sensitivity in sedentary type-2 diabetics, assuming that it would benefit the training goals of non-diabetics on a bodybuilding-type training protocol is highly speculative at best. It can even be postulated that R-ALA supplementation would inhibit training adaptations through its antioxidant effects, which can suppress exercise-induced skeletal muscle mitochondrial biogenesis. So, what you have is both positive as well as adverse potential, and no direct evidence in the population that actually matters to us. I personally wouldn't spend a penny on the stuff until more relevant research indicates it's worth it. Thus far, it's one big leap of faith. But hey, whatever tickles the buying public's placebone.

tagun

04-30-2011, 11:22 PM

Well as DG mentioned, the form [i]is[/b] good, but I am anal about TUT and stability and no bouncing etc. My calve extercises have a long TUT due to a lot of pausing to avoid any bouncing and activation of the achilles tendon as opposed to my gastrocnemius and partial involvement of the soleus.

Sure man, I saw that.

I thought the only thing that MIGHT upset you was TUT because form was virtually perfect as was ROM. However I can see how someone that really emphasizes TUT wouldn't be satisfied with that.

It's all good! :)

PS: I so agree with you (and JB) on calve training. Almost EVERYONE is just bouncing their weight up and down and isn't doing anything but stretching their tendons. I go really slow and with no bouncing - the DOMS are so strong for 3 days and more after training that I have serious trouble walking.

ian0789

05-01-2011, 03:56 AM

BB is definitely worth it. Really freaken cool to see what you are burning doing different things. Random spikes from running around playing tug of war with my doggy, going up and down my stairs a bunch of times doing loads of wash. Heck spending time in the kitchen! Food shopping was a nice burn as well lol.

Got a 3051 Calorie Burn with 8606 steps taken on my off day. Cant wait to see what happens with Work and training days put into the mix ;)

Cumulonimbus

05-01-2011, 06:50 AM

Definitely agree here, it's one of the few things I've actually experienced "work" for me. I just take plain R-ALA at around 800mg/day. Noticed effects within the first few days, haven't had a day without it in 5 months.

inb4 placebo effekt.

I just need more convincing evidence and studies performed with subjects that are relative to myself and others in the BB community.

I think you are right about Pug and he is only doing it to cut. To bulk he takes 150 grams of CHO per day.

Yeah he mentioned couple times that he does keep his CHO around 150g when bulking even on keto.

Cum, I always see you talk about photoshoots and stuff..

Do you model or are you photographer..etc?

just curious what you do other than school, lift, eat, post on bb.com and make everyone jelly.

I do modelling on the side haha, I think I've only mentioned photoshoots 2 or 3 times however so not much - I hope.

Besides BB and school, most of the free time I have is on the weekends. So during the week I'm at school, studying, posting here in between, training, T.O. for the shoots on Wed (offday) and going out for an hour or so with friends.. really in a time squeeze. On weekends and Fridays that's where I can finally give myself a break and chill out and go out and enjoy myself.

Thing is my parents are gone so I have school, lifting, shopping, house work, other crap to do for my parents since they're not here, study and soon to have job. So a lot of my time goes towards that crap during the week. It may seem like I post often here but I'm an all over the place sort of person who is doing his homework while multitasking and posting on the boards in between haha.

But yeah, weekdays are packed for me, weekends are when I enjoy myself.

Sometimes it is really hard with supplements.
I swear that when I am taking probiotic on a regular basis, I get sick less frequently, have better digestion and feel better overall. But I cant prove anything because this is anecdotal experience.

I have used R-ALA a long time ago.

My current supplements are

Multi
Omega
Vit D3
Creatine Mono
B-Alanine
Gluc/Chon/MSM

I'm thinking of picking up some Citrulline Malate

As gentix said - exercise is your king partioner.
...as is....wait for it....

NEAT! :D

This may be purely anecdotal at this point - as in I haven't seen studies thus far on TDEE and partioning general. Kirk? Perhaps you can shed some light if there are.

I mean you look at athletes. Alan has, via email correspondance mentioned that he's seen countless young athletes go through dramatic body recomposition changes without ever fulking. Yes, they might not be IFBB pro's, but just something to think about perhaps.

They are a population who have high activity levels. I mean even have a look at holyspokes' transformation over the few years he has pics up - you'll see outstanding results....outstanding levels of activity too.

I have friends who are in top level sports in our country and they grow fine without getting 'fat' per se. Some even have mediocre genetics in that region in that they weren't lean all their life, but now under high levels of training and good diets - composition gets better everytime I see them

Dun dun duuuuuun, Berardi perhaps might have been onto something wrt g-flux?
PERHAPHS.

*Note if you look him up - don't take much of what he says on board:p

I am not really all for the 'minimalistic' crap anymore. :cool:
Here is a WONDERFUL article on the state of most people's minds these days. I mean, training and shiiiit - I love it.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/knowledge/fast-food-solutions-fast-food-problems

I also suggest anyone who reads that post check out at least the last 20 articles Perryman has written! :D They are exceptional. Another one here on exercise and dopamine too actually. An 'activity set-point'.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/exercise-science/cortical-lottery-dopamine-activity-setpoint-research-review

Great post dude, I'm an avid lurker of ampedtraining.

yo do you time your rest breaks .? or just go when ever you feel ready again ?

good stiff legs to man no harry half reps in here !

ME days I take my time, hypertrophy days I try and go with the flow - give myself enough time to rest but not too long.

As yet, R-ALA has not been tested in non-diabetics, let alone non-diabetics on a structured training program. While orally administered R-ALA has been seen to improve glucose tolerance & insulin sensitivity in sedentary type-2 diabetics, assuming that it would benefit the training goals of non-diabetics on a bodybuilding-type training protocol is highly speculative at best. It can even be postulated that R-ALA supplementation would inhibit training adaptations through its antioxidant effects, which can suppress exercise-induced skeletal muscle mitochondrial biogenesis. So, what you have is both positive as well as adverse potential, and no direct evidence in the population that actually matters to us. I personally wouldn't spend a penny on the stuff until more relevant research indicates it's worth it. Thus far, it's one big leap of faith. But hey, whatever tickles the buying public's placebone.

Thanks Alan!

Sure man, I saw that.

I thought the only thing that MIGHT upset you was TUT because form was virtually perfect as was ROM. However I can see how someone that really emphasizes TUT wouldn't be satisfied with that.

It's all good! :)

PS: I so agree with you (and JB) on calve training. Almost EVERYONE is just bouncing their weight up and down and isn't doing anything but stretching their tendons. I go really slow and with no bouncing - the DOMS are so strong for 3 days and more after training that I have serious trouble walking.

Yeah I like using TUT on hyp. days.

And I actually don't really get much DOMS in my calves, I feel it the most in my glutes and hams.

BB is definitely worth it. Really freaken cool to see what you are burning doing different things. Random spikes from running around playing tug of war with my doggy, going up and down my stairs a bunch of times doing loads of wash. Heck spending time in the kitchen! Food shopping was a nice burn as well lol.

Got a 3051 Calorie Burn with 8606 steps taken on my off day. Cant wait to see what happens with Work and training days put into the mix ;)

Glad you're liking it. That's a lot of calories burned with only 8606 steps on an offday! Training will give you around 400-650 calorie burned, and work is a huge variable - but you mentioned you're on your feet for 8 hours, so you'll be burning around 4.5-5.5kcal a minute at work, that's my guess. So I think you'll be coming close, if not at the 4,000 range lol

coals

05-01-2011, 07:18 AM

Dun dun duuuuuun, Berardi perhaps might have been onto something wrt g-flux?
PERHAPHS.

*Note if you look him up - don't take much of what he says on board:p

I am not really all for the 'minimalistic' crap anymore. :cool:
Here is a WONDERFUL article on the state of most people's minds these days. I mean, training and shiiiit - I love it.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/knowledge/fast-food-solutions-fast-food-problems

I also suggest anyone who reads that post check out at least the last 20 articles Perryman has written! :D They are exceptional. Another one here on exercise and dopamine too actually. An 'activity set-point'.
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2011/exercise-science/cortical-lottery-dopamine-activity-setpoint-research-review

In b4 flames for mentioning berardi. I've always thought the g-flux concept was an interesting idea but he doesnt give much support for it. AmpedTraining.com is a great resource reps :)

Unrelated to the topic of partitioning, but
http://www.ampedtraining.com/2010/strength/highbar-squat-underrated is a good read I saw a few month ago for anyone interested in a basic squat discussion.

Back on topic, for anyone looking to acquire a little background on the dopamine system, I found this to be a beautiful read:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2836544/

(yes homo)

Warning: Anecdotes ahead:

I noticed that when I added in lots of off-day cardio and generally increased my activity the strength gains maintained constant (read: near roid like strength gains that even scared me into thinking someone was slipping me d-bol in my coffee, amazing what happens when you aren't permacutting) (n = 1, time frame = 1 month) and yet I seemed to be getting slightly leaner. The scale stayed the same over this month but we all know scale weight is retarded.

But hey, whatever tickles the buying public's placeboner.

fixed

ian0789

05-01-2011, 07:33 AM

Glad you're liking it. That's a lot of calories burned with only 8606 steps on an offday! Training will give you around 400-650 calorie burned, and work is a huge variable - but you mentioned you're on your feet for 8 hours, so you'll be burning around 4.5-5.5kcal a minute at work, that's my guess. So I think you'll be coming close, if not at the 4,000 range lol

Yeah was a lot more then I would have thought but even still I didnt feel stuffed at all and woke up lighter. I only took in 2800 so had a bit of a calorie deflect. I didnt put in my BF% Since I have no clue what it is so hopefully its not reading a bit higher from not giving it that stat. I felt it would be better of left blank vs trying to guess something I have no clue on. My scale has a BF Reading but I think its a crock of ****.

just got back from a bit of a trail walking with my dog. Up to 6765 steps and its not even 11am yet haha.

tagun

05-01-2011, 08:21 AM

My current supplements are

Multi
Omega
Vit D3
Creatine Mono
B-Alanine
Gluc/Chon/MSM

Yeah I like using TUT on hyp. days.

And I actually don't really get much DOMS in my calves, I feel it the most in my glutes and hams.

1.) What's your opinion on creatine? I was using it basically since forever but then it hit me one day that it maybe isn't even helping me. I stopped about 5-6 weeks ago and I don't think I lost any water weight nor strength so it's obviously pointless for me to take it. I also know that this might not be the case for everyone as their seem to be "responders" and "non-responders".

2.) Well DOMS isn't an indicator of progress/growth anyway, so **** that! :) It does feel good tho.

B-ryminD09

05-01-2011, 08:46 AM

curious whats the deal w/ ur parents/living situation?

danzink

05-01-2011, 11:25 AM

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/JackoTheDweeb/MichaelJacksonPopcorn.gif

Keto section

Just read the 5000 cal thread...

Provided the lulz.

juliacheh

05-01-2011, 11:33 AM

Just read the 5000 cal thread...

Provided the lulz.

I rated this thread five stars for the incredible lulz.
:D

mannydawg

05-01-2011, 11:36 AM

I rated this thread five stars for the incredible lulz.
:D

that thread kept me entertained for quite some time, heck it even got JB banned again.

danzink

05-01-2011, 11:40 AM

I rated this thread five stars for the incredible lulz.
:D

Its clear that if you eat arounds 2000 cals above maintenance you will gain fat, but what I don't think what people like cumul understands is they ARN'T EATING CARBS... so therefore its impossible to gain fat ever....

http://www.geeksofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/trollface.jpg

coals

05-01-2011, 01:40 PM

Its clear that if you eat arounds 2000 cals above maintenance you will gain fat, but what I don't think what people like cumul understands is they ARN'T EATING CARBS... so therefore its impossible to gain fat ever....

But dood, if theres no insulin to move fat into adipocytes theres no way to store fat.

http://th642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/ZephyBlaze/th_MaximumTrolling.jpg

chickeneater

05-01-2011, 04:40 PM

curious whats the deal w/ ur parents/living situation?

this^ how'd you end up in empty house? How do you avoid becoming the highschool party house?

Webber91

05-01-2011, 04:53 PM

The effect is real. But take Na-R-Ala man! The ignorance is killing me!

jk, but srs, take Na-R-Ala :)

Haha sorry mate!

What's the difference in effectiveness between the two? I havn't done a whole lot of research on it, it was just kind of one of those things I'd heard about and could pick up hell cheap so I did haha.

i take ala i beleive it works ... also kyle do you ever get heart burn or reflux from it ? i get it a faire bit about 5-10 mins after i have a pill

Depends how long I wait before eating bro. If I take a pill and don't end up having a meal for about half an hour later, I get a crazy heart burn feeling but usually I'll eat within 10-15 minutes and it's fine.

ibracadabra

05-01-2011, 06:53 PM

I'm curious, do you cycle your creatine or just stay consistent with it?

Ghosting

05-01-2011, 07:02 PM

Dear heavenly blessed OP (no homo),
Your almond breeze, is it regular unsweetened? If so, have you tried vanilla unsweetened? I have had regular before and it was fine. I just looked it up online and every 8 oz has a mere 40 cals!! Wow, skim milk has 90 cals. Big difference and seeing as I don't get my protein from 1 cup of milk, it is just more cals I can eat.

PS good luck with all your fitness goals in 2005 (no homo).

K0pe

05-01-2011, 07:04 PM

Good **** man, keep it up.

Cumulonimbus

05-01-2011, 08:20 PM

1.) What's your opinion on creatine? I was using it basically since forever but then it hit me one day that it maybe isn't even helping me. I stopped about 5-6 weeks ago and I don't think I lost any water weight nor strength so it's obviously pointless for me to take it. I also know that this might not be the case for everyone as their seem to be "responders" and "non-responders".

2.) Well DOMS isn't an indicator of progress/growth anyway, so **** that! :) It does feel good tho.

1) CM is good stuff, solid research backing it up. One of the useful supplements

2) Yes I am aware that DOMS isn't an indicator, but I was just stating anecdotal evidence to my response from training. Never associated it with recovery either way lol

curious whats the deal w/ ur parents/living situation?

Father's an entrepreneur, parents are here 50% of the time and in Europe 50% of the time.

Just read the 5000 cal thread...

Provided the lulz.

I rated this thread five stars for the incredible lulz.
:D

that thread kept me entertained for quite some time, heck it even got JB banned again.

For sure. So much anecdotal crap and non scientific info being tossed around by those ketotards... it makes me cringe.. hard. It's quite funny how Discov3ry backs otu when he is called out for his crap.

this^ how'd you end up in empty house? How do you avoid becoming the highschool party house?

^^^

I had parties last year, did not turn out well for me, let's just leave it at that.

I'm curious, do you cycle your creatine or just stay consistent with it?

Cycling creatine is bro-tarded.

Dear heavenly blessed OP (no homo),
Your almond breeze, is it regular unsweetened? If so, have you tried vanilla unsweetened? I have had regular before and it was fine. I just looked it up online and every 8 oz has a mere 40 cals!! Wow, skim milk has 90 cals. Big difference and seeing as I don't get my protein from 1 cup of milk, it is just more cals I can eat.

PS good luck with all your fitness goals in 2005 (no homo).

LOL! Love you buddy no homo. I use the unsweetened one.. you think a guy with a bottomless pit will use a sweetened product?! Hell no, I'm putting those calories elsewhere and using splenda!

Good **** man, keep it up.

Thanks man

braggable

05-01-2011, 08:53 PM

Just wanted to drop by and say, keep up the good work bro! (This thread moves fast!)

Bnizzle163

05-01-2011, 08:58 PM

A couple things :

1.) Don't know how I missed this.

2.) You have over 30 pages in just under a month (damn popular, cool kids)

3.) You have a ridiculous physique for your age.

4.) You're staying ridiculously lean while adding mass post contest

5.) I officially hate you

:D

PR1MO

05-01-2011, 09:03 PM

Father's an entrepreneur, parents are here 50% of the time and in Europe 50% of the time.

I sometimes think I'd love a job that had me travelling heaps, but then sometimes I think it would be a pain in the ass...

Cumulonimbus

05-01-2011, 09:16 PM

Saturday

Shoulders/arms hypertrophy

Seated BB Press
125x10
135x10
135x9

HS Shoulder press
1pps+25x12
1pps+25x12

Reverse pec dec
130x12
130x12
130x12 – 70x6

Lateral Machine
70x12
70x12
70x12 – 30x6

CGBP – Seated Hammer Curl
185x8 – 45x10
185x8 – 45x10
185x8 – 45x10

Single Arm DB OH Ex – Machine preacher
30x10– 110x10
30x10– 115x10

Rope pushdown – Cable curl
42.5x15 – 37.2x15
42.5x15 – 37.2x15

Roman chair
BWx15
BWx15

Decline crunch
BW+10x12
BW+10x12
BW+10x12

Nutrition
220/475/75

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6396/apr30.png (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/apr30.png/)

Expenditure
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9254/bodybuggapr30.png (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/bodybuggapr30.png/)

The Eats
Apple & Cinnamon Oats, veggie omelet
Waffles, ham, PB&Co CRS, banana, WF pancake syrup
WW bread, chicken, banana, PB&Co CRS, WF pancake syrup (love this combo as you can tell :))
Sludge, S'mores poptart, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Honey Shreddies
Veggie omelet, mixed bowl of berries, skinnycow icecream sandwich

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2774/img1272cw.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/img1272cw.jpg/)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6394/img1273o.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/img1273o.jpg/)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6501/img1277fb.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/img1277fb.jpg/)

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/67/img1285i.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/img1285i.jpg/)

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6443/img1287nv.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/img1287nv.jpg/)

Yes that's freezer burn on the icecream sandwich LOL!

Extras
Good workout, I felt in going tired as hell from the other night, but managed to do well on the BB OH press and break a current BW PR. Last year around this time I was doing 185x6, so my goal is to get there soon. My arm workout suffered due to the rush that I was in so that was a bummer.

So I'm planning a deload for this week, so no macro bump, unless I change something last minute and decide to run another week of these ME movements and see if I can pull something, but I doubt that'll be the case. So 55% deload this week (yes boring :/), and I'll be using Decline BB press and either box squats or regular squats for my main movements. It sucks but it has to be done!

coals

05-01-2011, 09:18 PM

You're berryies look .... extra natural.

Like they came out out of a fruit magazine or something. Where are you canadians getting your fruit?!

AllGenetix

05-01-2011, 09:28 PM

whats your weight at? any gain so far?

Ghosting

05-01-2011, 09:58 PM

LOL! Love you buddy no homo. I use the unsweetened one.. you think a guy with a bottomless pit will use a sweetened product?! Hell no, I'm putting those calories elsewhere and using splenda!

I hear ya on that. The unsweetened one tasted fine to me and it is so low in cals!!! Good bye milk!!

I recently got MIO to add to my water. I have a friend that has a "food coach" that is organic, low GI, he can feel his insulin levels :rolleyes:, anti-protein over 80 grams (regardless of body weight), and anti-artificial sweeteners. Drives me crazy. The guy is like 5'1" and 100lbs.

I am usually the type of person that says you can't look at a persons body to determine if their knowledge is correct, but at the same time you wouldn't go to a dentist with bad teeth. :D The fact that someone with this build is giving away body building advice too, is laughable. Anyways, my point, this guy was saying (along with everything else) that Acesulfame K or Acesulfame potassium is bad. He says, "just google it", as if that were good proof.

I tried to explain to my friend that google was not a good source for science. Do you know of any studies regarding this stuff?

spicyprice

05-01-2011, 11:41 PM

I am usually the type of person that says you can't look at a persons body to determine if their knowledge is correct, but at the same time you wouldn't go to a dentist with bad teeth. :D The fact that someone with this build is giving away body building advice too, is laughable.

ermmm........my dentist has terrible teeth (srsly, needs braces worse than me!)

starting to question my choice of dentist.......................

I picked up the unsweetened unflavored almond milk and was pretty disappointed, ruined an entire cup of coffee!!

So vanilla is where it is at?

danzink

05-02-2011, 01:51 AM

Love the food porn.

I'm trying to get WF pancake syrup here in the uk but postage cost is almost 3x the product (even from the uk supplier). Guess I'll just scout the supermarkets for a magical low cal sweet sauce to put on my pancakes and waffles.

adamrochester

05-02-2011, 02:34 AM

whats your weight at? any gain so far?

x2 how much weight have you gained from your comp ?

ryannic

05-02-2011, 03:42 AM

Will catch up on replies and updates tm.. I need sleep. Sorry! I hit 3539 cals today. We'll see on Monday/Tuesday how my body corresponds with the kcal increase and the accuracy of the Bodybugg. So far the thing is looking accurate in terms of picking up me fidgeting, etc. So if a need for kcals calls, I'll be upping PRO and FAT. Looking at 80/475/240

Hey man, been lurking the BB.com forums for a couple of years on & off but more recently (pretty much since the beginning of this year) been reading threads in the Nutrition section daily. Gotta say that I've learned so much from the likes of yourself, Alan, Julia, Manu etc (there are a lot more than this) and wanted to say a big thanks - you've certainly opened my eyes to what nutrition is really about and enlightened me on the world of "broscience" disproving a lot of what i've previously practised and to some extent preached.

Feels a bit weird to be honest having read your (and others listed above) posts daily seemingly getting to know you all but never having said anything myself. Having said that i am thinking of starting a log myself soon - in the middle of a cut right now. hoping to hit 12% or so in the next month and then lean bulk.

Sorry for the long rant, i do actually have a question...

You've mentioned your Bodybugg a few times and seem to be really happy. I'm considering buying either a bodybugg or Bodymedia fit but a few hundred dolls plus subscription cost has me wondering... Having used yours for a little while now, do you see it as something that you'll continue to use long term or can you see it hitting your bottom drawer in a few months and not being seen again??

Thanks again mate for helping me break the shackles of "broscience" and getting me on a more healthy (mentally) path to my goals. That applies to Julia, Alan, Manu etc. if any of them ever read this post. Thanks guys. You're awesome.

chickeneater

05-02-2011, 03:54 AM

1)

I had parties last year, did not turn out well for me, let's just leave it at that.

oh rly?.........................;)

strong reverse pec dec btw. Your shoulders ( including 75# db's for military) are strong.

thebankcard

05-02-2011, 09:35 AM

since i started lurking in here and the 1st meal post i saw was the waffle sandwich!!!!!! i got me soo pumped i keep making them now all types of waffle favors lol!!!!

dustinh6719

05-02-2011, 09:45 AM

Cumbucket, when's your next reload? I'm curious if the bb shows much change In calorie expidenture.

Cumulonimbus

05-02-2011, 10:04 AM

You're berry's look .... extra natural.

Like they came out out of a fruit magazine or something. Where are you canadians getting your fruit?!

Haha thanks, but I got no clue where they come from TBH LOL. They are sweet and ripe however :)

whats your weight at? any gain so far?

So my current weight under my profile hasn't been updated in a long time. So at my show I was 170lbs. Great, I had striated glutes, chest striations, tri striations, etc. I was stoked. So when reverse dieting, I bumped my CHO to 120g, and from the 120g to 200g CHO range my weight DROPPED. I went ALL the way down to 159lbs... (SRS). The thing is, my strength was there, size was there (althought not fullness from showday due to not being fully CHO'd up) and my libido was still in the lowerish end. This was the most ****ed up woosh I have EVER experienced and completely blew me away. So right now... I am sitting at a whopping 166.4lbs this morning with no bowel movement, so 5-6lbs up from the huge woosh. My weight has been going up super slow since that period, but the strength gains and size gains have been going up well. It almost seems like BF was dropping while strength was going up. Basically my met. rate was catching up at a higher rate than my calorie intake.

So I might as well start posting in morning weigh ins and indicating BM movement.

This was a weird thing for me when it happened LOL

I hear ya on that. The unsweetened one tasted fine to me and it is so low in cals!!! Good bye milk!!

I recently got MIO to add to my water. I have a friend that has a "food coach" that is organic, low GI, he can feel his insulin levels :rolleyes:, anti-protein over 80 grams (regardless of body weight), and anti-artificial sweeteners. Drives me crazy. The guy is like 5'1" and 100lbs.

I am usually the type of person that says you can't look at a persons body to determine if their knowledge is correct, but at the same time you wouldn't go to a dentist with bad teeth. :D The fact that someone with this build is giving away body building advice too, is laughable. Anyways, my point, this guy was saying (along with everything else) that Acesulfame K or Acesulfame potassium is bad. He says, "just google it", as if that were good proof.

I tried to explain to my friend that google was not a good source for science. Do you know of any studies regarding this stuff?

I sent you a PM this morning with a bunch of links bro, I was in a rush so I didn't only want to dig those links up for you and ignore the other posts.

I picked up the unsweetened unflavored almond milk and was pretty disappointed, ruined an entire cup of coffee!!

So vanilla is where it is at?

Vanilla and chocolate are both good, even without a splenda packet they taste bomb!

Love the food porn.

I'm trying to get WF pancake syrup here in the uk but postage cost is almost 3x the product (even from the uk supplier). Guess I'll just scout the supermarkets for a magical low cal sweet sauce to put on my pancakes and waffles.

Thanks bro, I was surprised when I seen WF at my supermarket, and this Sunday I found a new store that is closer to my house that carries them... brand new product they carry, YES :D

x2 how much weight have you gained from your comp ?

See above.

Gotta go guys, will catch the rest later.

So I am puny.. 166.4lbs LOL.

ibracadabra

05-02-2011, 10:42 AM

So my current weight under my profile hasn't been updated in a long time. So at my show I was 170lbs. Great, I had striated glutes, chest striations, tri striations, etc. I was stoked. So when reverse dieting, I bumped my CHO to 120g, and from the 120g to 200g CHO range my weight DROPPED. I went ALL the way down to 159lbs... (SRS). The thing is, my strength was there, size was there (althought not fullness from showday due to not being fully CHO'd up) and my libido was still in the lowerish end. This was the most ****ed up woosh I have EVER experienced and completely blew me away. So right now... I am sitting at a whopping 166.4lbs this morning with no bowel movement, so 5-6lbs up from the huge woosh. My weight has been going up super slow since that period, but the strength gains and size gains have been going up well. It almost seems like BF was dropping while strength was going up. Basically my met. rate was catching up at a higher rate than my calorie intake.

I find this super interesting considering that your met rate rebounded quite well. How aggressive, or slowly did you up your macros?

alan aragon

05-02-2011, 10:51 AM

Thanks Alan!You're welcome! And since you encouraged me to do so, here you go:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3316811&d=1304358556

mannydawg

05-02-2011, 10:56 AM

Arm looks bigger than your head. lol

juliacheh

05-02-2011, 10:57 AM

You're welcome! And since you encouraged me to do so, here you go:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3316811&d=1304358556

WOW! Alan, what's your secret dammit?
Is it poptarts, In&Out?

How come I have everything else OK but no gunzz?:(

Cumulonimbus

05-02-2011, 10:57 AM

Fukc everything in this log... Alan posted a pic of his bi. My log is complete.

You do 21's and hardcore squeezes for toning bro?

alan aragon

05-02-2011, 11:00 AM

It's my only standout muscle group besides calves, but who looks at calves anyway, lol. My current goal is to maintain size & get my BF down to double that of Cuminmyrumpus.

alan aragon

05-02-2011, 11:03 AM

Fukc everything in this log... Alan posted a pic of his bi. My log is complete.

You do 21's and hardcore squeezes for toning bro?I just make sure I hit them from enough angles to hit the upper, lower, inner, & outer bi. Plus the intraworkout BCAA helps, along with the waxy maize afterwords. Been thinking of adding a little bit of glutamine, HMB, & CLA too, just so I can tone them up some more.

spicyprice

05-02-2011, 11:05 AM

I just make sure I hit them from enough angles to hit the upper, lower, inner, & outer bi. Plus the intraworkout BCAA helps, along with the waxy maize afterwords. Been thinking of adding a little bit of glutamine, HMB, & CLA too, just so I can tone them up some more.

Ordering all from BBc.om nao......

not srs.

alan aragon

05-02-2011, 11:08 AM

WOW! Alan, what's your secret dammit?
Is it poptarts, In&Out?

How come I have everything else OK but no gunzz?:(I literally bought an In & Out shirt after church yesterday. I'm so stoked about it. As for your gunz, c'mon girl, you got some game. I would love to have some of your outer tri genetics. Cherish what ya got. And don't forget to take your Arginine/Fenugreek cocktail right before bed every night.

juliacheh

05-02-2011, 11:09 AM

It's my only standout muscle group besides calves, but who looks at calves anyway, lol. My current goal is to maintain size & get my BF down to double that of Cuminmyrumpus

LOL at bolded.

I look at man's legs and calves.
Puny legs and no calves = DO NOT WANT.
:D

t1ger

05-02-2011, 11:15 AM

Spot for sale. :D

(same page as Alan's bicep-pic, yo)

alan aragon

05-02-2011, 11:19 AM

LOL at bolded.

I look at man's legs and calves.
Puny legs and no calves = DO NOT WANT.
:DWell, that's good to hear. My calves are retarded & I am pissed at them for being bigger than my arms despite the fact that I train them with far less focus & much more fukkit.

And yes, the variety of plays on Cum's name has become the spice of life!

braggable

05-02-2011, 11:21 AM

ITT: Cumulo gets shredded-er and Alan rides DUBS...

Mind = obliterated.

Cumulonimbus

05-02-2011, 11:23 AM

My old Asian (Vietnamese) training partner also has phenomenal calves despite not training them. Perhaps hereditary dating from paleolithic times.

Jenslyn17

05-02-2011, 12:21 PM

My calves absolutely refuse to grow... I've tried high volume, high intensity... thinking about training them hard every second day now just to try something. It bothers me so much because my small calves make me look like I'm one of those guys who only train their upper bodies when I wear shorts :P

Feelsbadman

Ghosting

05-02-2011, 01:04 PM

ermmm........my dentist has terrible teeth (srsly, needs braces worse than me!)

starting to question my choice of dentist.......................

lol

Ghosting

05-02-2011, 01:12 PM

Seriously, holy crap Alan. I had no idea you were so built because you never show it (AFAIK). You ever measure those things? Do you ever ask people to call you Alan AragoRn (aragorn was the Ranger dude in Lord of the Rings - for anyone unaware)?

Prestonmayne

05-02-2011, 01:22 PM

Cumulo, you're a big inspiration to me as I am 18 as well. Your posts in the nutrition section have given me much insight (and lulz). Been lurking this log since the beginning and its so bomb. Keep it up bud, you da man!

ErickStevens

05-02-2011, 01:22 PM

Alright, fuk the biceps. Lets see them cawk shots! Who's first?

ko300zx

05-02-2011, 01:26 PM

Alright, fuk the biceps. Lets see them cawk shots! Who's first?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldw1px8RGL1qc29lm.gif

fitnessbyjay

05-02-2011, 01:42 PM

I haven't read all the posts here, but it's your "offseason" and you're eating just under maintenance? Fill me in bro:)

Cumulonimbus

05-02-2011, 01:51 PM

Hey man, been lurking the BB.com forums for a couple of years on & off but more recently (pretty much since the beginning of this year) been reading threads in the Nutrition section daily. Gotta say that I've learned so much from the likes of yourself, Alan, Julia, Manu etc (there are a lot more than this) and wanted to say a big thanks - you've certainly opened my eyes to what nutrition is really about and enlightened me on the world of "broscience" disproving a lot of what i've previously practised and to some extent preached.

Feels a bit weird to be honest having read your (and others listed above) posts daily seemingly getting to know you all but never having said anything myself. Having said that i am thinking of starting a log myself soon - in the middle of a cut right now. hoping to hit 12% or so in the next month and then lean bulk.

Sorry for the long rant, i do actually have a question...

You've mentioned your Bodybugg a few times and seem to be really happy. I'm considering buying either a bodybugg or Bodymedia fit but a few hundred dolls plus subscription cost has me wondering... Having used yours for a little while now, do you see it as something that you'll continue to use long term or can you see it hitting your bottom drawer in a few months and not being seen again??

Thanks again mate for helping me break the shackles of "broscience" and getting me on a more healthy (mentally) path to my goals. That applies to Julia, Alan, Manu etc. if any of them ever read this post. Thanks guys. You're awesome.

Dude, stoked to hear you got your head out of all the bro crap and started understanding the bread and butter of training and nutrition! Glad our posts have helped, I do admit some of us (me :D) can come off as as$holes, but that's because of the sheer stupidity and repetitiveness of the same crap. Thanks for stopping by man and enjoy the log :)

About the Bodybugg, I don't think I would stop using it for a long time and just forget about it. However there will be times where I simply know that I won't need it because I will have a good idea of how many calories will be burned that day if the activities are similar. However for now it's an interesting tool and I'm curious as to what it'll show me when my weight gets even higher.

oh rly?.........................;)

strong reverse pec dec btw. Your shoulders ( including 75# db's for military) are strong.

Thanks!

since i started lurking in here and the 1st meal post i saw was the waffle sandwich!!!!!! i got me soo pumped i keep making them now all types of waffle favors lol!!!!

Glad you like the waffles, they're bomb.

Cumbucket, when's your next reload? I'm curious if the bb shows much change In calorie expidenture.

What do you mean by reload? My normal lifting intensity? If so, next week :(. This week I'll be at 55% of my 1RM.

I find this super interesting considering that your met rate rebounded quite well. How aggressive, or slowly did you up your macros?

Yeah dude it was crazy! I did an 80 calorie increase weekly every Monday.

Spot for sale. :D

(same page as Alan's bicep-pic, yo)

I'll toss an offer :D

ITT: Cumulo gets shredded-er and Alan rides DUBS...

Mind = obliterated.

I'm getting my obese on brooo

Cumulo, you're a big inspiration to me as I am 18 as well. Your posts in the nutrition section have given me much insight (and lulz). Been lurking this log since the beginning and its so bomb. Keep it up bud, you da man!

Sweet dude! Enjoy the rest of the log, hopefully it'll get better as I stop being a phaggot and get more weekly videos!

Alright, fuk the biceps. Lets see them cawk shots! Who's first?

It's on muthafugga!

I haven't read all the posts here, but it's your "offseason" and you're eating just under maintenance? Fill me in bro:)

Finding a sweet spot.

Alright guys, wish me luck on this brutal 55% week... FUUUUU

dustinh6719

05-02-2011, 02:54 PM

What do you mean by reload? My normal lifting intensity? If so, next week :(. This week I'll be at 55% of my 1RM.

Lol, meant deload. Stupid Droid auto-correct. It was probably a stupid question but I was just curious how much of a difference the bb would show between deload and normal intensity.

chickeneater

05-02-2011, 03:02 PM

Well, that's good to hear. My calves are retarded & I am pissed at them for being bigger than my arms despite the fact that I train them with far less focus & much more fukkit. So if you have a retarted muscle group, you are being complimentary?
If thats the case, I think your arms are pretty retarted there...;)

And yes, the variety of plays on Cum's name has become the spice of life!

Cumplestilskin,

I can't believe you're only 166 pounds, burnin 3500 cal a day, hittin 75# db presses, oh mayne!

PR1MO

05-02-2011, 03:30 PM

And yes, the variety of plays on Cum's name has become the spice of life!

I thought we had peaked with this one:

Cumbucket, when's your next reload? I'm curious if the bb shows much change In calorie expidenture.

But then this happened:

Cuminmyrumpus.

Cumplestilskin

ibracadabra

05-02-2011, 04:46 PM

Smart move on the deload cumulo, I feel as if it is often overlooked

Do you switch your ME primary movements every mesocycle? Becuase my understanding of reading WSBB is that you are supposed to switch every 2 weeks to keep your CNS in check

VenomBrock

05-02-2011, 04:49 PM

Cum - you inspired this long time lurker to pull the trigger on a BBV3 along with the digital display. Can't wait to get it.

Hoitze

05-02-2011, 06:05 PM

Hey, i've been lurking in your thread for a while now, and i've learned a lot from your log and various other pots. You seem to be really knowledgeable, so I have a question. I've been lifting since I was 15 and got up to 175lbs when i was 17. Then, through a combo of running too much and not eating enough I lost A LOT of muscle and strength. Any way since I have been training for a few years now and never stopped lifting, what kind of program do you think would be best to start gaining back my muscle and strength. Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.

AllGenetix

05-02-2011, 08:15 PM

I literally bought an In & Out shirt after church yesterday. I'm so stoked about it. As for your gunz, c'mon girl, you got some game. I would love to have some of your outer tri genetics. Cherish what ya got. And don't forget to take your Arginine/Fenugreek cocktail right before bed every night.

i have an In N' Out shirt too.................i just sharpied "that's what she said" in small print below it for the lulz

mannydawg

05-02-2011, 08:16 PM

i have an In N' Out shirt too.................i just sharpied "that's what she said" in small print below it for the lulz

If she talking yourdoingitwrong. lol

ryannic

05-02-2011, 08:56 PM

Dude, stoked to hear you got your head out of all the bro crap and started understanding the bread and butter of training and nutrition! Glad our posts have helped, I do admit some of us (me :D) can come off as as$holes, but that's because of the sheer stupidity and repetitiveness of the same crap. Thanks for stopping by man and enjoy the log :)

About the Bodybugg, I don't think I would stop using it for a long time and just forget about it. However there will be times where I simply know that I won't need it because I will have a good idea of how many calories will be burned that day if the activities are similar. However for now it's an interesting tool and I'm curious as to what it'll show me when my weight gets even higher.

Thanks for that mate, just ordered one off ebay this morning. No idea how long it's going to take to get here though - shipping from US to Australia.

I can understand why some ppl would consider some of your posts as harsh but i can also understand the frustration of having to repeat the same thing over and over. I think i can relate to your attitude too; i know i can quite often come across as arrogant myself. The good thing is that those posts that some ppl take offence to provides lulz for the rest of us. Loved the in depth conversation on the IIFYM thread with 2020wellness haha.

Keep up the great work dude, you're log continues to be great inspiration.

Cumulonimbus

05-02-2011, 09:23 PM

Lol, meant deload. Stupid Droid auto-correct. It was probably a stupid question but I was just curious how much of a difference the bb would show between deload and normal intensity.

So far there is a 120 calorie difference.

Cumplestilskin,

I can't believe you're only 166 pounds, burnin 3500 cal a day, hittin 75# db presses, oh mayne!

Haha thanks! I'm puny :p And I love seated DB shoulder presses!

I thought we had peaked with this one:

But then this happened:

It's a revelation!

Smart move on the deload cumulo, I feel as if it is often overlooked

Do you switch your ME primary movements every mesocycle? Becuase my understanding of reading WSBB is that you are supposed to switch every 2 weeks to keep your CNS in check

I fully believe in the need for a deload, both from a physiological and psychological point of view.

I chill with an ME movement for about 3-4 weeks or shorter if I stall.

Cum - you inspired this long time lurker to pull the trigger on a BBV3 along with the digital display. Can't wait to get it.

Great, can't wait to hear how you like it!

Hey, i've been lurking in your thread for a while now, and i've learned a lot from your log and various other pots. You seem to be really knowledgeable, so I have a question. I've been lifting since I was 15 and got up to 175lbs when i was 17. Then, through a combo of running too much and not eating enough I lost A LOT of muscle and strength. Any way since I have been training for a few years now and never stopped lifting, what kind of program do you think would be best to start gaining back my muscle and strength. Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.

Damn man, sh!tty situation, sorry to hear. I would recomend either West Side for Skinny Bastards (WS4SB), Starting Strength, or Lyle's Generic Bulking Routine. All are solid options, and I was even thinking of using Lyle's routine for awhile soon just to try something new.

Thanks for that mate, just ordered one off ebay this morning. No idea how long it's going to take to get here though - shipping from US to Australia.

I can understand why some ppl would consider some of your posts as harsh but i can also understand the frustration of having to repeat the same thing over and over. I think i can relate to your attitude too; i know i can quite often come across as arrogant myself. The good thing is that those posts that some ppl take offence to provides lulz for the rest of us. Loved the in depth conversation on the IIFYM thread with 2020wellness haha.

Keep up the great work dude, you're log continues to be great inspiration.

Haha yeah, really repetitive, and a lot of people are ignorant, not wanting to listen to others, especially when it's like 5 vs. 1 plus the 5 have scientific literature.. drives me nuts!

And yeah, the 2020wellness debate was quite funny. He commented on one of my videos saying my shirt is for girls or something about his sister asking for it.. idk but quite funny lol.

Sorry guys no update from Sunday. It's almost 12:30am and I want to make the best of this deload week... sleep!

Ghosting

05-02-2011, 09:24 PM

I can understand why some ppl would consider some of your posts as harsh but i can also understand the frustration of having to repeat the same thing over and over. I think i can relate to your attitude too; i know i can quite often come across as arrogant myself. The good thing is that those posts that some ppl take offence to provides lulz for the rest of us. Loved the in depth conversation on the IIFYM thread with 2020wellness haha.

I think it is funny when people argue with IIFYM people that have good physiques in their avis and telling them it doesn't work. It's like how can they say that when their avi says different? I don't get it.

Ghosting

05-02-2011, 09:33 PM

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3316811&d=1304358556

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9517/randymarsh.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/randymarsh.jpg/)

ryannic

05-02-2011, 10:25 PM

Haha yeah, really repetitive, and a lot of people are ignorant, not wanting to listen to others, especially when it's like 5 vs. 1 plus the 5 have scientific literature.. drives me nuts!

And yeah, the 2020wellness debate was quite funny. He commented on one of my videos saying my shirt is for girls or something about his sister asking for it.. idk but quite funny lol.

haha classic. especially after he played the age card and criticised your maturity saying things like 'he'll grow out of it eventually' lol

ryannic

05-02-2011, 10:32 PM

I think it is funny when people argue with IIFYM people that have good physiques in their avis and telling them it doesn't work. It's like how can they say that when their avi says different? I don't get it.

Yea they seem to take it personally like ppl are telling them they're completely wrong, when in reality they're probably fitting their macros anyway and just overdoing the 'bro-ness' by only eating plain oats, brown rice, chicken breast and vegies 9 times a day haha. Oh and no carbing after "x" o'clock... that's my personal favourite broism

adamrochester

05-03-2011, 12:56 AM

Well, that's good to hear. My calves are retarded & I am pissed at them for being bigger than my arms despite the fact that I train them with far less focus & much more fukkit.

And yes, the variety of plays on Cum's name has become the spice of life!

dam alan ! what are those pythons sir 18.5s ?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldw1px8RGL1qc29lm.gif

lol ^ felt like a was watching for 5 mins

about your weight bro :| you look heavier than that ... illusion ftw you strong mofo at that bw we might have a berto #2 ;)

Hoitze

05-03-2011, 05:42 AM

Thanks. I really appreciate the input. I'm leaning towards WS4SB but still deciding.

Cumulonimbus

05-03-2011, 12:56 PM

I think it is funny when people argue with IIFYM people that have good physiques in their avis and telling them it doesn't work. It's like how can they say that when their avi says different? I don't get it.

Anecdote!

haha classic. especially after he played the age card and criticised your maturity saying things like 'he'll grow out of it eventually' lol

Yeah, he got his answer like 3 different times and yet he still ignored it.

Yea they seem to take it personally like ppl are telling them they're completely wrong, when in reality they're probably fitting their macros anyway and just overdoing the 'bro-ness' by only eating plain oats, brown rice, chicken breast and vegies 9 times a day haha. Oh and no carbing after "x" o'clock... that's my personal favourite broism

Majority of bros don't believe in cals in vs. cals out and jsut foods as "muscle building and fat building" lololol.

about your weight bro :| you look heavier than that ... illusion ftw you strong mofo at that bw we might have a berto #2 ;)

Thanks

Thanks. I really appreciate the input. I'm leaning towards WS4SB but still deciding.

WS4SB is solid!

Cumulonimbus

05-03-2011, 01:04 PM

Sunday

HIIT

15 seconds jump rope - 45 second kettleball swings x 15

Nutrition
220/400/75

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9361/may1.png (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/may1.png/)

Expenditure
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7381/bodybuggmay1.png (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/bodybuggmay1.png/)

The eats
Overnight oats, Kashi, raspberries, veggie omelet
Protein fluff, yogurt bowl
Pizza
Veggie omelet, popcorn, yogurt topped with blueberries

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1964/img1289j.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/img1289j.jpg/)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9655/img1293i.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/img1293i.jpg/)

Extras
Rainy sluggish day... but I went to lazer tag - pure nostalgia LOL. I wish I still had WoW for days like these.

DRstalepunch

05-03-2011, 01:10 PM

lurking this log made me look more into IIFYM and the stickies on teh nutrition board. i was like YO WTF, why am i stressing over this 6 meals a day + insulin spike crap that i've heard all these years.

thanks man!

Cumulonimbus

05-03-2011, 01:27 PM

Monday

ME Upper Deload

Decline BB Press 55%
95x5
105x4
135x5
135x5
135x5
135x5

DB Row
75x7
75x7
75x7
75x7

Floor one arm DB Press
60x5
60x5
60x5

Overhead extension
25x6
25x6
25x6
25x6

DB Curl
25x7
25x7
25x7
25x7

DB Laterals
20x8
20x7
20x7

Nutrition
220/475/75

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3425/may2.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/may2.png/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3761/may21d.png (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/may21d.png/)

Expenditure
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3946/bodybuggmay2.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/bodybuggmay2.png/)

The eats
Apple & Cinnamon oats, veggie omelet
Rye bread, deli meat, deli meat, cheese, veggies
WW bread, PB&Co, banana, chicken, and a sh!tty WF fluffernutter LOL
Sludge, Blueberry poptart, berries, Kashi Honey Almond Flax, Honey Bunches of Oats Almond
Chicken and veggie stir-fry, chocolate yogurt with chopped up Oh Henry

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3863/img1294yy.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/img1294yy.jpg/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9994/img1295zs.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/img1295zs.jpg/)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5258/img1297zq.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/img1297zq.jpg/)

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4756/img1299g.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img1299g.jpg/)

Extras
Deload this week. It sucsk but I gotta do it. So as I was about to start my 4th set on decline, a bro and his group of bro's ask if they can work in - I said sure but I'm on my last set anyways. As I'm about to start my last set he comes up with 2 25lb plates and asks with a smirk on his face "you need a spot there, bud?". I look at him for a good 2 seconds without saying anything and I tell him "it's quite funny that a guy who just finished doing 21's with terrible form with his group of friends who also have no knowledge in training comes up, to try and look tough, and ask if I need a spot. I suggest taking a good hard look at yourself and realize that your constant high volume, improper training is doing sh!t all for your physique... and your friends, it's quite sad that they're so fukcing stupid that they take your advice"

Seriously, if I had my usual aggression that I have when performing 90% lifts, I would have mad a pretty big fukcing deal. How can a dude just go up to someone in the gym, try and look tough, and just say that? Hopefully one day he goes up to some 225lb'er while warming up with a plate and says the same thing. Since I'm good with the manager I'll just aware him for the luls - tattle tale I am ;)

Other than that.. slow workout, nothing crazy, all 55%. My macro bump next week should set me at 240/475/80 - 3580 calories, you know bro. I honestly have little room left for direct protein sources with my carbs so high.. LOL.

juliacheh

05-03-2011, 01:32 PM

cantwait2lift

05-03-2011, 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=Cumulonimbus;675112651]Monday

cot damn, your food pics make me want to give up on life, for i will never prepare anything half as good as what I see you make on a daily basis.

Ghosting

05-03-2011, 01:46 PM

cot damn, your food pics make me want to give up on life, for i will never prepare anything half as good as what I see you make on a daily basis.
LOL. This.

Ghosting

05-03-2011, 01:51 PM

Deload this week. It sucsk but I gotta do it. So as I was about to start my 4th set on decline, a bro and his group of bro's ask if they can work in - I said sure but I'm on my last set anyways. As I'm about to start my last set he comes up with 2 25lb plates and asks with a smirk on his face "you need a spot there, bud?". I look at him for a good 2 seconds without saying anything and I tell him "it's quite funny that a guy who just finished doing 21's with terrible form with his group of friends who also have no knowledge in training comes up, to try and look tough, and ask if I need a spot. I suggest taking a good hard look at yourself and realize that your constant high volume, improper training is doing sh!t all for your physique... and your friends, it's quite sad that they're so fukcing stupid that they take your advice"

Seriously, if I had my usual aggression that I have when performing 90% lifts, I would have mad a pretty big fukcing deal. How can a dude just go up to someone in the gym, try and look tough, and just say that? Hopefully one day he goes up to some 225lb'er while warming up with a plate and says the same thing. Since I'm good with the manager I'll just aware him for the luls - tattle tale I am ;)

LOL. This dude was not a ripped as you correct? High BF and ESPECIALLY fat tall guys think they are tough. Whenever I saw someone with low BF I would be polite and ask them questions, not be a hater.

dustinh6719

05-03-2011, 05:16 PM

I honestly have little room left for direct protein sources with my carbs so high.. LOL.

Lol aware. Not as high as your intake but I'm in the same boat. I think I'll up protein next. :p

chickeneater

05-03-2011, 05:21 PM

midcoastking33

05-03-2011, 05:42 PM

Seriously, if I had my usual aggression that I have when performing 90% lifts, I would have mad a pretty big fukcing deal. How can a dude just go up to someone in the gym, try and look tough, and just say that? Hopefully one day he goes up to some 225lb'er while warming up with a plate and says the same thing. Since I'm good with the manager I'll just aware him for the luls - tattle tale I am ;)

Other than that.. slow workout, nothing crazy, all 55%. My macro bump next week should set me at 240/475/80 - 3580 calories, you know bro. I honestly have little room left for direct protein sources with my carbs so high.. LOL.

Sounds like jelly phags who wouldn't know how to spell deload

ryannic

05-03-2011, 06:01 PM

Monday

Extras
Deload this week. It sucsk but I gotta do it. So as I was about to start my 4th set on decline, a bro and his group of bro's ask if they can work in - I said sure but I'm on my last set anyways. As I'm about to start my last set he comes up with 2 25lb plates and asks with a smirk on his face "you need a spot there, bud?". I look at him for a good 2 seconds without saying anything and I tell him "it's quite funny that a guy who just finished doing 21's with terrible form with his group of friends who also have no knowledge in training comes up, to try and look tough, and ask if I need a spot. I suggest taking a good hard look at yourself and realize that your constant high volume, improper training is doing sh!t all for your physique... and your friends, it's quite sad that they're so fukcing stupid that they take your advice"

Seriously, if I had my usual aggression that I have when performing 90% lifts, I would have mad a pretty big fukcing deal. How can a dude just go up to someone in the gym, try and look tough, and just say that? Hopefully one day he goes up to some 225lb'er while warming up with a plate and says the same thing. Since I'm good with the manager I'll just aware him for the luls - tattle tale I am ;)

Still not exactly sure how the 'repping' stuff works but - attempted reps for this. Loving the morning lulz when i wake up and check this log.

AllGenetix

05-03-2011, 07:01 PM

funny story about the gym. stupid brosefs

do you look "big" in gym clothes or more lean and not like a bodybuilder?

adamrochester

05-03-2011, 09:13 PM

lol bros say that when i do my 1st warm up set as a joke we got the fellow gym clowns

yo man whats your favourite poptart flavour ?

ananf72

05-03-2011, 09:35 PM

So it has taken me this long to get through the thread. Holy sh*t those 'thick' pics of yours!!! Great log though. Will be in...

Cumulonimbus

05-04-2011, 10:54 AM

LOl at the story in the gym. You are one tough cookie, Paul;)

So making some sandwiches for breakfast tomorrow, whenever I see them in your log, I start drooling uncontrollably:)

Nice deload, some of the weights are my working weights.

I actually never really get into that many problems unless at a bar or party, I was pretty surprised that people would just randomly act like this, at a gym...

And thanks for the food picture comments, I love me some sandwiches, keeping it clean ;)

cot damn, your food pics make me want to give up on life, for i will never prepare anything half as good as what I see you make on a daily basis.

LOL. This.

I always considered my foods to be "average" they're not as crazy as Slov's eats, and I don't put much time into making them so I thought they are pretty lousy hah, but really, thanks guys :)

LOL. This dude was not a ripped as you correct? High BF and ESPECIALLY fat tall guys think they are tough. Whenever I saw someone with low BF I would be polite and ask them questions, not be a hater.

Nah man, just an average looking Joe that gives brotips to his group of friends while doing some awesome island double arm cable curls.

Lol aware. Not as high as your intake but I'm in the same boat. I think I'll up protein next. :p

It sucks, gahhhhh

lulz at your parents being gone and you eating so well. So different then what I imagine other parents go thru when they leave their kid alone (parties, alcohol, drugs etc).

btw, don't let the comment from that dude bother you. It could've been a brocompliment. Like as jacked/ripped as you are it's obvious you work with a lot more but are taking it easy at that time. I was'nt there of course, but could that be the case?

Oh man, last year it was brutal, too many parties where it just got annoying to clean up. Staying up after the party till like 7am watching kids shows and being clueless... LOL

But his comment in no way was friendly, he said it to be a complete jackass, what ever, his trains like a fool, and his physique shows.

Still not exactly sure how the 'repping' stuff works but - attempted reps for this. Loving the morning lulz when i wake up and check this log.

Reps just means reputation points, pretty much a number system, the more the merrier!

funny story about the gym. stupid brosefs

do you look "big" in gym clothes or more lean and not like a bodybuilder?

I express a round muscled anatomy chart when I got a pump, so I hope so :D I was wearing a baggy shirt so maybe that kept me a bit covered that day.

lol bros say that when i do my 1st warm up set as a joke we got the fellow gym clowns

yo man whats your favourite poptart flavour ?

They're all pretty good, chocolate chip, s'mores, blueberry.

So it has taken me this long to get through the thread. Holy sh*t those 'thick' pics of yours!!! Great log though. Will be in...

Haha damn must have taken a while to read 34 pages all at once! Nice to have you here, enjoy :)

Christiffer

05-04-2011, 11:09 AM

lol bros say that when i do my 1st warm up set as a joke we got the fellow gym clowns

yo man whats your favourite poptart flavour ?

Smores ftw!!

Cumulonimbus

05-04-2011, 11:53 AM

Tuesday

ME Lower Deload

Squat 55%
95x8
135x5
195x4
195x4
195x4
195x4

Sumo deadlift
225x5
225x5
225x5
225x5

Seated calves
140x8
140x8
140x8
140x8

Pull through
42.5x10
42.5x10
42.5x10

Leg Extension
165x8
165x8
165x8
165x8

Standing Leg Curl
65x10
65x10
65x10

Cable crunches
72.5x10
72.5x10
72.5x10
72.5x10

Nutrition
220/475/75

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3817/may3.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/may3.png/)

Expenditure
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4338/bodybuggmay3.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/bodybuggmay3.png/)

Deload.. it shows lol

The eats
Pumpkin oats, veggie omelet
Cinnamon Raisin Bagel with PB, strawberries, chicken
Pancakes with PB2 and banana, chicken
Sludge, reese puffs, puffins, s'mores poptart
Veggie omelet, popcorn, skinnycow cup, bowl of berries

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2323/img1301wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/img1301wy.jpg/)

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9857/img1303w.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/806/img1303w.jpg/)

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http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4986/img1306n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/img1306n.jpg/)

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7910/img1309w.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/img1309w.jpg/)

Extras
Good workout, nice and slow nothing too crazy - just trying to get some active recovery going. Can't wait for this deload to be over and done with, hopefully some PRs will be broken!

coals

05-04-2011, 12:05 PM

What's in that last pic? Ice cream?

If so what ice cream?

bijsanei

05-04-2011, 12:41 PM

Meaning to cook up a bag of popcorn soon, when I'm hungry eh?! Shiit probably fills up at 260 cals for the whole bag! (Smart Pop! 'Buttery')

Was gonna ask, what do you put on top of the popcorn or any suggestions of how to go down with it? Buttery flavor would be alright but probably pretty boring...

Ghosting

05-04-2011, 01:03 PM

Nah man, just an average looking Joe that gives brotips to his group of friends while doing some awesome island double arm cable curls.

Surprising. I have never met a fat tall guy that didn't think they were tough. Never.

Phrak

05-04-2011, 01:46 PM

Surprising. I have never met a fat tall guy that didn't think they were tough. Never.

You havent met me!

Ghosting

05-04-2011, 02:14 PM

You havent met me!

LOL. Then you sir, are rare in my experience.

Webber91

05-04-2011, 03:00 PM

Nice volume there Paul. How long do your workouts usually take?

feelsg00dmayne

05-04-2011, 06:20 PM

ahhh the food pr0n is strong in this thread. must acquire skillz.

You're welcome! And since you encouraged me to do so, here you go:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3316811&d=1304358556

olawdy. is dis real life?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhyumsV5cd1qhbcvno1_400.jpg

tentex87

05-04-2011, 06:23 PM

Yo Paul. This is a badass log. Could you elaborate a little more on your training? I know it's a power/hypertrophy split with some westside principles. I guess I could go back through every page and find all your training posts, but I'm being pretty lazy at the moment.

HunterCML

05-04-2011, 06:27 PM

Question:

If I pay you with cheap hookers and pay for your gym membership, will you consider moving to America and being my personal chef?

nohomo

Eats are lookin' good man. Very good.

Bnizzle163

05-04-2011, 07:46 PM

Paul, your food is always legit. That bowl looks killa

franko man

05-04-2011, 10:10 PM

your pancakes look as good as the ones my gf and I ordered from a Dutch restaurant today @ breakfast, kinda serious!

bout 10 mins about when I was spooning out my peanut butter from the jar, i thought of you, (100% no homo!) How do you usually measure the amount of peanut butter you use, on bagels and such??
lol I know my one "spoon" contains much more than a real tablespoon! Just want to know how someone who's as meticulous with macros as you would measure the small things like peanut butter, ketchup.. etc.
thanks brah

I think i'll be ordering a bodybug too by the end of this month!!

t1ger

05-04-2011, 10:14 PM

Weird serious question incomming: How much can you pinch on your stomach?

:D

Ghosting

05-04-2011, 10:53 PM

weird serious question incomming: How much can you pinch on your stomach?

:D

lol.

adamrochester

05-05-2011, 01:14 AM

still looking for the reese puffs :@ dam you ....

keen as phuck to try ! but THE #1 GREATEST cereal would be ctc or cookie crisp though :) agreed ;) ??

alex2363

05-05-2011, 02:03 AM

love those pics, makes me feel like im there

addictR3

05-05-2011, 02:11 AM

bit late here but lol @ your gym story! what you should do next time is ask to spot them instead but when they start to struggle simply set your phones alarm to a ringtone lol and answer. BOOM!

l2ambo

05-05-2011, 08:36 AM

bit late here but lol @ your gym story! what you should do next time is ask to spot them instead but when they start to struggle simply set your phones alarm to a ringtone lol and answer. BOOM!

That's just unsafe. =(

Edit: DAYUMMMM I got 50 lbs on you bro. ^^^^^

Cumulonimbus

05-05-2011, 08:56 AM

What's in that last pic? Ice cream?

If so what ice cream?

Sure is, it's skinnycow, don't you read my fitday? :(

Meaning to cook up a bag of popcorn soon, when I'm hungry eh?! Shiit probably fills up at 260 cals for the whole bag! (Smart Pop! 'Buttery')

Was gonna ask, what do you put on top of the popcorn or any suggestions of how to go down with it? Buttery flavor would be alright but probably pretty boring...

Popcorn = best filler food. I use some dollar store brand flavoring, it's dill pickle. Has like 5 calories for 5g of it? Don't bother counting it. The kernels brand seasonings are strong n the macros however :/

Surprising. I have never met a fat tall guy that didn't think they were tough. Never.

There's quite a few in our school, it's luls

You havent met me!

You wanna be tough now, huh?

Nice volume there Paul. How long do your workouts usually take?

Thanks brah! ME days around 1 hour and hypertrophy days around 1 hour and 25 minutes

ahhh the food pr0n is strong in this thread. must acquire skillz.

Lotta food comments, thanks guys! I always thought they were boring compared to others haha

Yo Paul. This is a badass log. Could you elaborate a little more on your training? I know it's a power/hypertrophy split with some westside principles. I guess I could go back through every page and find all your training posts, but I'm being pretty lazy at the moment.

Thanks for the compliment!

I did mention my training earlier in my log, and being lazy is not a good way to learn :)

Question:

If I pay you with cheap hookers and pay for your gym membership, will you consider moving to America and being my personal chef?

nohomo

Eats are lookin' good man. Very good.

1 good hooker > couple mediocre hookers

Paul, your food is always legit. That bowl looks killa

Thanks dude, I will be making a Lucky Charms bowl soon because of you ;)

your pancakes look as good as the ones my gf and I ordered from a Dutch restaurant today @ breakfast, kinda serious!

bout 10 mins about when I was spooning out my peanut butter from the jar, i thought of you, (100% no homo!) How do you usually measure the amount of peanut butter you use, on bagels and such??
lol I know my one "spoon" contains much more than a real tablespoon! Just want to know how someone who's as meticulous with macros as you would measure the small things like peanut butter, ketchup.. etc.
thanks brah

I think i'll be ordering a bodybug too by the end of this month!!

I do post a fitday brah - seems like no one reds it :( You can see that I measure PB. Also, PB isn't exactly "small" a tablespoon is 80-90 calories, and most people can't measure a tbsp so they usually do 1.5 tbsps which could be around 150 calories.

Weird serious question incomming: How much can you pinch on your stomach?

:D

Not much, it's always weird and tight lo, but at night it gets a bit lose.

still looking for the reese puffs :@ dam you ....

keen as phuck to try ! but THE #1 GREATEST cereal would be ctc or cookie crisp though : ) agreed ;) ??

Reese Puffs are God-like, I never tried Cookie Crisp however

love those pics, makes me feel like im there

3D food pron!

bit late here but lol @ your gym story! what you should do next time is ask to spot them instead but when they start to struggle simply set your phones alarm to a ringtone lol and answer. BOOM!

Welcome! Never would I let such a bro spot me. When I need a spot I always clarify on ME lifts that I will only need a spot for the last rep if needed, and I ask them to not touch the bar... however people are just slow and completely do the opposite.

That's just unsafe. =(

Edit: DAYUMMMM I got 50 lbs on you bro. ^^^^^

170lbs, my short term goal!

Was in T.O. last night, got a sneak peak at some "dud" photos that were taken during camera angle and light testing, note the socks and underwear LOL

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6315/paul6136w.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/paul6136w.jpg/)

I need to up the cals more, blah :/

However in the past 3 weeks my ham-drop is a bit more visible :)