That Clomubanus dude's NFSC log

[Cumulonimbus]

Tuesday

ME Lower

BB Squat
95x10
135x5
185x5
205x3
225x3
255x2
275x2
305x4
325x3,3 is this real life? :D

Sumo deadlift
335x6,7,7

Standing calves J squat
2pps+35x15,15,15

B.S.S
60x8
70x10,10

Leg Extension
200x15-2-2-2

Cable crunches
95x,10,10,10,10

Nutrition
250/600/90

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June14.png
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June141.png

Expenditure

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/BodybuggJune14.png

The Eats
Apple & Cinnamon Oats, Veggie omelet
WW bread with deli meat, goat cheese and veggies, Lays Ketchup chips
Blueberry bagel, Cinnamon Raisin Bagel with WF chocolate and caramel spread, PB&Co WCW topped with a sliced banana and chicken
Pumpkin sludge, Honey Nut Chex, Kellogg's Muslix Banana Nut, Strawberry Milkshake poptart, strawberries, blueberries
Veggie omelet, Frito Lays Munchies mix, Lays Baked ketchup chips, Cookie Dough Skinny cow

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1717.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1718.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1721.jpg

[Cumulonimbus]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1722-1.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1723-1.jpg

Extras
Wow, friggin awesome squats! I was working to my max for the day and 305 was wayyy too explosive so I got super stoked and went for 325, ass down to the floor, booom, explode up, woo! :D

Other than that just finishing up on the filming project at school so a lot of movement there.

[ispankmidgets]

Jeez brah, what is your daily expenditure? Are you tracking with a device like the BB?

If I work (which is usually 6 days a week) its around 3800. Yup, with the BMF.

Protein is the hardest for me to hit and I'm not sure why. It's not even that high (218g minimum). Guess I just need to start firing up the grill more often.

[juliacheh]

325 squat? ATG? Is this real life?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hCU-g77txl4/TcPAMWjjqQI/AAAAAAAAASI/mVsp7y2L9mU/s1600/Copy+of+awesome.jpeg

I came just looking at this :D
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1721.jpg

[silly_sally808]

BB Squat
95x10
135x5
185x5
205x3
225x3
255x2
275x2
305x4
325x3,3 is this real life? :D



damn...I stop at 275 because I dun feel like I'm going low enough...

Now that I'm always eating 250 over ACCURATE maintenance tho, I already notice increase in lifts...like skullcrusher/cgbp today, finally hit 10 reps all my sets at 75 lbs, so hopefully everything else will be goin up soon too

[Cumulonimbus]

Oldest girl I've ever been with was 2 years younger than me. I'm a predator.

On baller status


Dumb advice alert: this is my first time cutting/bulking. Thought I needed to eat more (want bigger arms for chainsaw comp) so I've bumped up cals. At gym this morning two guys told me I need to be cutting and doing more cardio. Before I keep going with higher cals, how should I make the decision when to cut?

Well pick a goal and go for that one strictly. Saying you have to cut AND do cardio is nonsense.


Two random douches approach a woman and tell her to diet harder and intensify the cardio...
We aren't actually taking these meat heads seriously now?

Adjust macro nutrient intake according to YOUR goals / prospective desires (the chainsaw comp).
If you require an increase in muscularity, assuming your caloric / macronutrient intake is appropriate, bulk the fawk away.

:)

This!


Want some muscle in arms (lower body is fine for now)... am looking pretty damn fluffy... I'll send you pm pic and you give opinion plz...

Gotta pick one, and it's up to you


I've been with a guy who was 8 years older, and it was horrible. He was jealous as fuk and controlling.
I know you are not like this, Erick ;)

Sorry to hear that the old boy was a douche :(


And when people ask me what my diet is like and I tell them..... They tend to think I am B.Sing and tell me I cant look like I do eating how I eat. I am clearly not in the condition of some of you guys but I try my best.

Someone forgot to tell me I need to only eat chicken and brocc 5x times a day every 3hrs and should only eat crabz around PWO meal. And if I eat a crabz past 8PM I will most likely wake up a fat ****.

Cardio is a fun activity at times but isnt the all ends to keep fat off. Id mostly likely take what they said with a grain of salt. Did they have Fatriceps and 6pack of flabby goodness?

I hate when I get asked what I eat. I get a brain fart thinking to myself.. should I troll them or try to educate them. I usually just say I eat foods I enjoy and hit my caloric goal. I've trolled like 2 bros because I overlooked them slamming a post workout shake previously LOL


This forum has clearly changed my outlook on eating. I felt stupid for eating 900 cals a day after reading what Julia is cutting on. Lots of info to try to absorb so putting all the research into use is iffy. Just when I think I've got it all figured out, someone tells me what a big mistake I'm making then it's mindf'king. Personally, I like cardio for calming me down so I've cut it in half. Both guys are trainers at golds and ex-bfs of a friend of mine. They like 'em skinny with DDs :)


That's a fantastic idea!!! Shall I video and post? They were dipsh*ts... iron looked at my pic and confirmed I'm fine to bulk. I hate asking for advice but glad to make sure I'm doing it right. (is happy now)

Glad you came to a consensus.


@ananf72, don't tell me you were also working out on 900 cals :eek:
Glad you saw the light!!!

You know how much sh.t people told me...They called me fat, made fun of me, told me that I'd never have a decent physique. I never effing listen to anybody and am stubborn as a donkey.

Do what you want to do.

I never would have thought I would be where I'm at now, but now I also never think I'll be 190lbs :/

[Cumulonimbus]

Fellow lurker just posting to say that your dedication and progress is inspiring.

Thank you, your comments motivate me :)


The page you requested was not found :(

Edit: Nvm just searched No bull**** bodybuilding on facebook :p




Lol...you should make a vid of you eating a whole pizza or something

I'd rather include sushi! Speaking of pizza, I had some epic street food and pizza yesterday in Toronto!


Yeah fawk that. I used to eat a sub 1000 calories a day and think I need to burn burn burn to get me some of dat muscle mass. I have learned a **** ton and half the time I am the D-Bag who is in a heated debate about some of the crap people spew out of there mouth.



Personally I still take heat from people. I will be taking out the trash at work and someone behind me will start saying "I lift things up and put things down" Or I get silly nick names. Some I find funny and brighten up my day but then other times I get comments from people who cant stand how I enjoy living my life.



Id hit it...... Mhhh on that note time to make some epic eats.

Damn dude, just gotta ignore the comments from others. I never get any negative comments from others, just always compliments and encouragement.


Totally lovable and adorable :o

Is this the motherly part of you speaking? :)




Edit: Subbed ; )

Sweet!


yes, I lurk in here

Welcome! Some more keto'ers lol


One of my favorite posters in Keto section: )

Indeed. kweb, anaf and atavis are all solid posters there


aww if you are for serious you just totally made my day! (srs, legs was rough today : () hahah and I only go in there occasionally now 1. b/c I went back to carbs (I miss oatmeal nomnom) and 2. there are more dumb dumbs in there than the regular nutrition section lol forehead started hurting from ze daily facepalms :/

Carbs.. welcome to the CLUB :D


[img]http://mynutritiousaffair.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/hugs.jpg[img]

Indeed, hugs all around


Good. Carbs are delicious. I tried that low-carb sh*t for a while... t'was awful.

Yeah man, fukc eating bacon and eggs, I'd rather eat turkey bacon, eggs and a bun on the side :)


i've considered low carbing, but then i think, "what the fukc would i eat without carbs"

Nothing exciting to eat LOL


:D



yes, yest'was....though I'll probably do it again....... coz made me super lean coz its a miracle diet!!

i JK lol

Uhh ohhh, oh no you didn't!

[Cumulonimbus]

Anyone going to the pro-show tomorrow?

[Drizzy10]

"Ketchup"Flavoredchips.......

http://lol.oswld.net/Internet%20Memes/dontknowifwant.jpg

[Cumulonimbus]

"Ketchup"Flavoredchips.......

[img]http://lol.oswld.net/Internet%20Memes/dontknowifwant.jpg[img]

...?

[Matturbator]

itt cum hates me :'(

[chaz1172]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-BullSh*t-Bodybuilding

In the URL sub an 'i' for the *



Facebook group joined, yo'.

[ibracadabra]

Standing calves J squat
2pps+35x15,15,15



Curious as to what a J-squat is?



I'd rather include sushi! Speaking of pizza, I had some epic street food and pizza yesterday in Toronto!




But did it fit on your macros?

[adamrochester]

strong squats negro film this shiz !

yo got something for you if you havnt herd it downloaded the album last night had epic squat sesh today

http://popcrush.com/bad-meets-evil-hell-the-sequel-deluxe-edition-album-review/

download the album epic !

[juliacheh]

Is this the motherly part of you speaking? :)


Only partly ;)

[NorthTexasBB]

Hey Paul, joined your grp on facebook but wanted to ask if your going to school and if so under what program?

[Cumulonimbus]

Oh, and Hi Paul

:)

Hi :)


inb4paulbecomesnextxnickedgex

lol go full out BRO


the first couple days were actually pretty cool. dropped water weight like no other. but then it got old.

Water weight =/= fat loss, never gonna sacrifice dat dere glycogen!


Inb4pauleatschickenandbroccolli5XadayAndavoidsCHOa fter6

I have chicken and broccoli daily, but never in the same meal :D


Lol that video is awesome. Informative too!

Very informative! Wealth of knowledge :D


Is the page down already or is it a joke I don't get? :(

Ghosting, come on!


Yeah I was. Because I am the reigning champ at burning off muscle. I'm not very tall so when doing the math, I put my cals pretty low. Saw you and realized I just needed to train smarter and eat more because there's no where left to drop cals. I'm pretty open to trying anything so I have to be careful lol.



YAY! So glad to see you in here! Miss you over in keto but agree with why you left. My forehead stays red too.



Isn't it strange? People get as opinionated as hell about food 'other people eat'!!?? It's really kinda interesting that a guy who wears his gym shorts too high wants to open his fat mouth in front of a bunch of guys and be a hero. I have 'learned' that women who have fat to lose and lift heavy weights will only make the "fat appear fatter". Creatine is responsible for my 'oprah arms'... not the past year of b'fing. Cardio will lean me out and "help" me appear taller. wtf lol Didn't even ask him... just was trying to weigh myself.

@ Paul... LOL that video. Food is dropping from your mouth! Are those blueberries? You have pointy elbows. (j/k... just always wanted to try that)

Creatine is good, don't cut it out. Lift heavy, keep that overload, and create a reasonable caloric deficit!

As for the food, pftt nah, they were reese puffs, chex, crushed chocolate chip poptart and chocolate cheerios :)


I'm posting that video on every idiotic IIFYM thread that pops up.





notsrslybutirlyshould

Hopefully it would probably make people realize that they look like tards making those threads.


Paul I'm actually starting to feel bad for you. I just had to scarf down an additional 1200 calories to reach my 750 deficit and it felt like a f*cking chore. Never thought it'd feel this way since I love food. This is on a cut... I can only imagine what its like for you on a bulk...

Wait, you feel full?! What is your cal intake?

[Cumulonimbus]

Jeez brah, what is your daily expenditure? Are you tracking with a device like the BB?


If I work (which is usually 6 days a week) its around 3800. Yup, with the BMF.

Protein is the hardest for me to hit and I'm not sure why. It's not even that high (218g minimum). Guess I just need to start firing up the grill more often.

Cutting with a 500 deficit from 2800 and full, not for me :p


325 squat? ATG? Is this real life?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hCU-g77txl4/TcPAMWjjqQI/AAAAAAAAASI/mVsp7y2L9mU/s1600/Copy+of+awesome.jpeg

I came just looking at this :D
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1721.jpg

Thanks! :) I was so stoked, I couldn't believe how easy it went!


damn...I stop at 275 because I dun feel like I'm going low enough...

Now that I'm always eating 250 over ACCURATE maintenance tho, I already notice increase in lifts...like skullcrusher/cgbp today, finally hit 10 reps all my sets at 75 lbs, so hopefully everything else will be goin up soon too

Try slipping 10's under your heels. That's what I do to go super low

TBH, I didn't notice much of a difference in gym performance with the surplus, just scale and I started filling out a bit. I will be hitting 625-650g CHO soon because I think I can still fit out a tad more.


itt cum hates me :'(

You're a bro who says to only eat clean foods and you buy into diet fads. It's people like you who make dieting so fukcing retarded. Just eat and hit your macros and stop getting caught up in the latest fukcing trend.



Facebook group joined, yo'.

Sweeet!


Curious as to what a J-squat is?



But did it fit on your macros?

Err J press, V squat, fukc.

I meant V-squat machine LOL


And it most likely did not! haha


strong squats negro film this shiz !

yo got something for you if you havnt herd it downloaded the album last night had epic squat sesh today

http://popcrush.com/bad-meets-evil-hell-the-sequel-deluxe-edition-album-review/

download the album epic !

Thanks! Filming in my gym is tough, it's filled with bros, like crazy. Very packed

Thanks for sharing the link as well


Only partly ;)

Gotta get that other side ;)


Hey Paul, joined your grp on facebook but wanted to ask if your going to school and if so under what program?

Currently in high school. I'll be going to Holland for physio in 2 years. Either physio, molecular bio or biochem. dunno yet lewl

[Shazriki]

Currently in high school. I'll be going to Holland for physio in 2 years. Either physio, molecular bio or biochem. dunno yet lewl

..Where you'll be attending a different kind of "high" school, lolol.

[AllGenetix]

thats +/- 200kcal over bodybugg estimates. At that rate, even without TEF, you should gain a pound in a month. haha, goood luck with that sucka

and vids of said squats please.......

/trolllsauce

[Cumulonimbus]

..Where you'll be attending a different kind of "high" school, lolol.

Rotterdam, a bit more peaceful ;)


thats +/- 200kcal over bodybugg estimates. At that rate, even without TEF, you should gain a pound in a month. haha, goood luck with that sucka

and vids of said squats please.......

/trolllsauce

I thought the BB accounts for TEF?

As for the vids, it's hard without all the bros, kind awkward. I can re-assure you that I am the most anal person when it comes to form, and these legs don't lie :)

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg

But do you have any more info WRT to the BB's reading on internal basal readings and TEF?

[symchykp]

Where in Hamilton do you train?

Well when im here in the summer i train at mcmaster cuz im goin into 3rd year next year. Since i live in brampton for the most part of the summer its LA with shawnp3087.


When were both in ham we wi def send u a shout. Shawn says ur a cool guy. By this log i would think so too haha.

So come burn a bit if u want and we can rip the gym! Welcome anytime.

[hankst]

Rotterdam, a bit more peaceful ;)



I thought the BB accounts for TEF?

As for the vids, it's hard without all the bros, kind awkward. I can re-assure you that I am the most anal person when it comes to form, and these legs don't lie :)

[IM.G]http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg[/IMG]

But do you have any more info WRT to the BB's reading on internal basal readings and TEF?

I wish my girlfriend had legs like that.



Haha, j/k of course.















...



I don't have a girlfriend! :p

[2020Wellness]

Currently in high school. I'll be going to Holland for physio in 2 years. Either physio, molecular bio or biochem. dunno yet lewl

I've got my Biochemistry degree, good choice.

[juliacheh]

Love Allgenetix and hankst, made my day with their comments:D

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg

*cougar mode on*
http://www.breedemandweep.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/do_want.jpg
*cougar mode off*

[Phrak]

Well its time to give'r a shot. Going to drop my protein! 275g ill try first. Its very hard letting old habits die. Water weight come at me!

[AllGenetix]

1. the bodybugg has no way of measuring internal thermic effect of food and is only basing its caloric burn on SKIN heat flux as well as accelerometry. That's like saying it should be able to detect insulin or testostrone fluxes. It is only a device that measures external factors.

2. leg size and form have nothing to do with each other. you can get hyoooge legs and have ****ty form. being anal about form and having leg size are correlative, not causative.

[Shazriki]

1. the bodybugg has no way of measuring internal thermic effect of food and is only basing its caloric burn on SKIN heat flux as well as accelerometry. That's like saying it should be able to detect insulin or testostrone fluxes. It is only a device that measures external factors.

2. leg size and form have nothing to do with each other. you can get hyoooge legs and have ****ty form. being anal about form and having leg size are correlative, not causative.

http://thebusysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/gauntlet1.jpg

[Bnizzle163]

Yep, that's some serious squattin. Must be all the eggo's n' lucky charms ;)

[zstanton]

Rotterdam, a bit more peaceful ;)



I thought the BB accounts for TEF?
As for the vids, it's hard without all the bros, kind awkward. I can re-assure you that I am the most anal person when it comes to form, and these legs don't lie :)

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg

But do you have any more info WRT to the BB's reading on internal basal readings and TEF?

i'm pretty sure it does, I personally am gonna play around with it eventually to be sure, but one day when i barely ate anything (like 1400 cals) the next day my resting expenditure was lower

[shawn3087]

eh yo bro reach the supershow!! im going to the expo later today

[ErickStevens]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg


Mirin dat dere deadlift wound.

[b3b0p]

Paul, if my dad still worked at General Mills he would sponsor you ;)

fu(& wheaties, you'd be on the box of Lucky Charm's.

[snrygo]

3C5NQzmfhag

Testing my video skills for up coming videos for our new channel

http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-BullSh*t-Bodybuilding

In the URL sub an 'i' for the *

Note my trophies in the BG :p

i rofld

[HunterCML]

My girlfriend asked if I could stay away from your log because she believe I have a man crush on you, and is slightly jealous.








wut? nohomo

[juliacheh]

My girlfriend asked if I could stay away from your log because she believe I have a man crush on you, and is slightly jealous.



Ha ha, I was right :D

[HunterCML]

Ha ha, I was right :D

rofl. I showed her this post (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=700105741&postcount=2389) you made, and she laughed for at least half an hour. :p

[juliacheh]

rofl. I showed her this post (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=700105741&postcount=2389) you made, and she laughed for at least half an hour. :p

I'm glad :D

[snrygo]

btw guys, i'm preety much out of school now so i'm bumping up my cooking skillz over the summer.

a sample of what's to come in MEN:
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9735/imgp3002w.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/imgp3002w.jpg/)

[Matturbator]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

[ErickStevens]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

How about sticking to one diet for more than a month? Until then STFU.

[juliacheh]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

You don't like Paul, then GTFO. This is HIS log.

[zhall616]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

what's a clean food? did you shower with it? im confused....

[Matturbator]

You don't like Paul, then GTFO. This is HIS log.

I never said I didn't like him.

[HunterCML]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

Wtf is a clean food.

Strong edit taking out the part where you called Paul "Mr internet tough guy".

Surprised you're green still.

[Matturbator]

Wtf is a clean food.

Strong edit taking out the part where you called Paul "Mr internet tough guy".

Surprised you're green still.

i don't know. i'm being accused of eating "clean food" because i was on low carb very SHORTLY. ouch, my online rep. what will i ever do?

i'm gtfo'ing now, haters gon' hate!

[jaklcrow]

Yo, party at Cum's. If you can get yo asses here then we're gonna go destroy some AYCE! Free house :cool:

Chinese buffet sushi is awful, I feel sorry for the sushi virgins that try that kind frist then never touch real sushi because of that bad first experience

Yeah, Chinese food is extremely calorically dense, however delicious.

If I were Phrak I would probably chill at 250 as a lowwwwww point.



- lol awesome, I'm going to need to eat enough food to make sure I at least break even for my round trip ticket from LA to Canada though; cool?

- Agreed

- Chines food is to me like PB&CO is to 90% of this forum lol

- Ya def no lower

[jaklcrow]

i don't know. i'm being accused of eating "clean food" because i was on low carb very SHORTLY. ouch, my online rep. what will i ever do?

i'm gtfo'ing now, haters gon' hate!

you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot

[TheRagingboxer]

you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot

Haha, now noticed!!! U sir are correct.

[juliacheh]

you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot

LOL, man, you always make me laugh,digging your posts so much <8
:)

[Ghosting]

Ghosting, come on!





I literally left the hyphens between the words. :( I did a search and found it. :)

[Phrak]

you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot

I have no idea how he plans on cutting with no mass to begin with.

[TheNaturalOak]

Hey Cum, why cant we be friends irl? :(

We could hang out and you could make foods to fit both our macros (homo)

haha j/p But thanks for the heads up on "dont make iifym" thread. I only visit ur thread in the nutrition forum so I was a little nieve and didnt realize I made myself look dumb :P

On a good note, I've raised my cals/carbs, I even had cocoa puff cereal this morning :)

I also think u might enjoy a "lol" by me telling you I did keto for 3 months for my prep. I didnt kno brah my bad!

Anyways keep on eating m8

[juliacheh]

I have no idea how he plans on cutting with no mass to begin with.

That's like half of the Nutrition forum, no hate, but lots of skinny guys "cutting" - I don't get it.

[hankst]

That's like half of the Nutrition forum, no hate, but lots of skinny guys "cutting" - I don't get it.

One less as of this week.
:p

[juliacheh]

One less as of this week.
:p

Yay for bulking!!!. I can't wait till I start bulking.
Will be eating plenty of CHO - going for Paul and Berto status :D

[TheNaturalOak]

Yay for bulking!!!. I can't wait till I start bulking.
Will be eating plenty of CHO - going for Paul and Berto status :D

Heck yea! I have 3 more wks of prep & then its reverse dieting. I'm so excited to see these lean gains my way, it will be the first time I ever bulked while knowing what calorie intake + macros are lmao.

Only problem is Idk if my wallet will be able to keep up with my CHO intake!

[Phrak]

Im even tempted to start bulking. 275 here i come :P

[Cumulonimbus]

lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video

lol go fukc yourself bud. You're annoying and can't stick to any sort of eating plan because you know jack sh!t.

You stated that eating "junk" is something no one should be doing.

Anyone have any good cheesecake recipes? Preferably blueberry cheesecake. Looking for it to be around 150/200/40 P/C/F

Thanks!

[HunterCML]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=294171&highlight=cheesecake

That's the base.

160/48/18

It's crustless though, with a homemade crust you can easily bang up the extra fat and carbs to where you want it. Also, adding in the berries into the mix will up the carbs as well.

[Cumulonimbus]

Where in Hamilton do you train?

Well when im here in the summer i train at mcmaster cuz im goin into 3rd year next year. Since i live in brampton for the most part of the summer its LA with shawnp3087.


When were both in ham we wi def send u a shout. Shawn says ur a cool guy. By this log i would think so too haha.

So come burn a bit if u want and we can rip the gym! Welcome anytime.

Solid, I'm down! Hit a good workout and then light one up


I wish my girlfriend had legs like that.



Haha, j/k of course.















...



I don't have a girlfriend! :p

LOL


I've got my Biochemistry degree, good choice.

And you don't believe in incomplete proteins. not sure if srs


Love Allgenetix and hankst, made my day with their comments:D

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1339-1.jpg

*cougar mode on*
http://www.breedemandweep.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/do_want.jpg
*cougar mode off*

Allgen, that damn troll!


Well its time to give'r a shot. Going to drop my protein! 275g ill try first. Its very hard letting old habits die. Water weight come at me!

Water weight from that CHO CHO, wooooooooo!


1. the bodybugg has no way of measuring internal thermic effect of food and is only basing its caloric burn on SKIN heat flux as well as accelerometry. That's like saying it should be able to detect insulin or testostrone fluxes. It is only a device that measures external factors.

2. leg size and form have nothing to do with each other. you can get hyoooge legs and have ****ty form. being anal about form and having leg size are correlative, not causative.

1. I always thought it takes TEF into account, thanks.

2. I can assure you I am anal as balls hence why I use 10's under my heels. But you're correct, size =/= good form


[img]http://thebusysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/gauntlet1.jpg[img]

Not too sure lol


Yep, that's some serious squattin. Must be all the eggo's n' lucky charms ;)

As Erick stated, Cereal = PR's ;)


i'm pretty sure it does, I personally am gonna play around with it eventually to be sure, but one day when i barely ate anything (like 1400 cals) the next day my resting expenditure was lower

Interdesting.


eh yo bro reach the supershow!! im going to the expo later today

I'm broke, and parking is sooo expensive! My car also burns through gas :(


Mirin dat dere deadlift wound.

Fukc yeah! Glad another deadlift brah noticed :cool:


Paul, if my dad still worked at General Mills he would sponsor you ;)

fu(& wheaties, you'd be on the box of Lucky Charm's.

I'd bump CHO to 800 if I was sponsored by the, LOL

[Shazriki]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=294171&highlight=cheesecake

That's the base.

160/48/18

It's crustless though, with a homemade crust you can easily bang up the extra fat and carbs to where you want it. Also, adding in the berries into the mix will up the carbs as well.

I might actually make this tomorrow, nice!

[Shazriki]

Not too sure lol


Gauntlet thrown down AKA ITS ON

[Cumulonimbus]

i rofld

Glad someone got a chuckled out of it!


My girlfriend asked if I could stay away from your log because she believe I have a man crush on you, and is slightly jealous.








wut? nohomo



Ha ha, I was right :D


rofl. I showed her this post (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=700105741&postcount=2389) you made, and she laughed for at least half an hour. :p


I'm glad :D

Thought you don't have one bro :p Or were you being sarcastic hehe


btw guys, i'm preety much out of school now so i'm bumping up my cooking skillz over the summer.

a sample of what's to come in MEN:
[IMG]http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9735/imgp3002w.jpg[IMG] (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/imgp3002w.jpg/)

Your cooking inspires me, hopefully you can give me a good blueberry cheesecake recipe to meet roughly 150/200/40 p/c/f :)


lol i'm a bro who eats clean foods because I tried palumbo's cutting diet for like 3 days? if you read through my log you would see that I don't only eat clean foods. at all.

don't say **** like that about someone based on assumptions and false pretenses, mr.

edit: lol at the video


How about sticking to one diet for more than a month? Until then STFU.


what's a clean food? did you shower with it? im confused....


I never said I didn't like him.


Wtf is a clean food.

Strong edit taking out the part where you called Paul "Mr internet tough guy".

Surprised you're green still.

This. You're a clean tard with little adherence. You buy into "diet fads" and the sh!t you post about clean foods in dumb.


Junk food is never cheaper. I don't care if it's $1.00 pizza day. The food is **** and unsatisfying. Even IF it were genuinely cheaper today, think about long-term health effects. Junk food is not worth it.



i don't know. i'm being accused of eating "clean food" because i was on low carb very SHORTLY. ouch, my online rep. what will i ever do?

i'm gtfo'ing now, haters gon' hate!

Good, pls go.


- lol awesome, I'm going to need to eat enough food to make sure I at least break even for my round trip ticket from LA to Canada though; cool?

- Agreed

- Chines food is to me like PB&CO is to 90% of this forum lol

- Ya def no lower

Party at Cum's, you're in I see :p

And chinese food is my weakness as well!


you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot


Haha, now noticed!!! U sir are correct.


LOL, man, you always make me laugh,digging your posts so much <8
:)

LOL I just noticed that!

[hankst]

I might actually make this tomorrow, nice!

Me too. On Sunday. But I'll add some vanilla pudding mix instead of the vanilla extract, and use quark instead of cream cheese.

Will end up at 160g protein, 1200 kcal.
:D
'dis gonna be gud

[Shazriki]

Me too. On Sunday. But I'll add some vanilla pudding mix instead of the vanilla extract, and use quark instead of cream cheese.

Will end up at 160g protein, 1200 kcal.
:D
'dis gonna be gud

Yep, quark it is, the texture is going to fuaaarking delicious. I'll probably take the fat that WOULD have been in the cream cheese (I use FF quark) and make a PB-based frosting for the cheesecake. **** I'm excited now

[Cumulonimbus]

I literally left the hyphens between the words. :( I did a search and found it. :)

You better join!


I have no idea how he plans on cutting with no mass to begin with.

Welcome to BB.com


Hey Cum, why cant we be friends irl? : (

We could hang out and you could make foods to fit both our macros (homo)

haha j/p But thanks for the heads up on "dont make iifym" thread. I only visit ur thread in the nutrition forum so I was a little nieve and didnt realize I made myself look dumb :P

On a good note, I've raised my cals/carbs, I even had cocoa puff cereal this morning :)

I also think u might enjoy a "lol" by me telling you I did keto for 3 months for my prep. I didnt kno brah my bad!

Anyways keep on eating m8

Yeah the IIFYM threads are fukcing retarded, a majority of them aren't even IIFYM related. It's a buzzword that is getting ridiculous. Seriously, IIFYM = common sense. Yet people make it out to be the opposite.

Sorry to hear about the keto issue. It simply isn't optimal for BB'ers. Sedentary people sure.


That's like half of the Nutrition forum, no hate, but lots of skinny guys "cutting" - I don't get it.

Hey guise, 5'8" 150lbs, looking to cut plz


One less as of this week.
:p

Glad I got you to realize the benefit :) Reversing slowly?


Yay for bulking!!!. I can't wait till I start bulking.
Will be eating plenty of CHO - going for Paul and Berto status : D

I'm going for Berto status soon, 625g CHO! Thanks Allgen :cool:


Heck yea! I have 3 more wks of prep & then its reverse dieting. I'm so excited to see these lean gains my way, it will be the first time I ever bulked while knowing what calorie intake + macros are lmao.

Only problem is Idk if my wallet will be able to keep up with my CHO intake!

Lol my food bill is so expensive :p I spent $85 today and I still need to buy a couple more things to make this cheescake haha.


Im even tempted to start bulking. 275 here i come :P

Dude, 6kcal burn soon!


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=294171&highlight=cheesecake

That's the base.

160/48/18

It's crustless though, with a homemade crust you can easily bang up the extra fat and carbs to where you want it. Also, adding in the berries into the mix will up the carbs as well.

Thank you! By the way while you were gone I used your pumpkin bread pudding recipe :) I used a cinnamon raisin bagel instead but it was good!


I might actually make this tomorrow, nice!

Will be making cheesecake this weekend... hopefully!


Gauntlet thrown down AKA ITS ON

Ahh

[juliacheh]

Me too. On Sunday. But I'll add some vanilla pudding mix instead of the vanilla extract, and use quark instead of cream cheese.

Will end up at 160g protein, 1200 kcal.
:D
'dis gonna be gud

I used half cream cheese, half fat free ricotta. Turned out good.

But soon I am going to make a real New York style with FULL FAT Philadelphia and graham crackers crust, will not count macros not to get upset LOL.

[hankst]

Glad I got you to realize the benefit :) Reversing slowly?


Semi-slowly.
Off days -> about maintenance* (+/-100, still need to get a hang of this), so about 500-700 kcal more than I used to eat
Workout days -> still 3000 kcal, which puts me 300 kcal over maintenance*

*what the Bodymedia tells me

Haven't gained (or lost) weight so far, but I feel fatter, lol.
n-th degree mind****. But I'll just stick with it and increase calories steadily every ten days - two weeks.

(btw: still haven't reached a single 3k day, even on the day when I was running like a mother****er for 45 minutes straight and went for 3 walks afterwards... ended up at 2980 or so)

[NVious]

Hey thanks for answering my other question. I've got some good news and bad news. So my mom is letting me order 2 packs of the Anaconda Protocol so I can take it twice a day, the bad news is we did have to rent out our house to a mime convention to pay for my monthly supplement bill, but I'm gonna be huge I'm telling ya. Anyways I gotta a question about IIFYM, can I use this in the night too or is this a morning thing? Because I've heard you're more insulin sensative at night than in the morning due to the change in the sky, anyways I'm getting pretty big so yeah. Cool talking to you, see you in the IFBB.

[Cumulonimbus]

Me too. On Sunday. But I'll add some vanilla pudding mix instead of the vanilla extract, and use quark instead of cream cheese.

Will end up at 160g protein, 1200 kcal.
:D
'dis gonna be gud


Yep, quark it is, the texture is going to fuaaarking delicious. I'll probably take the fat that WOULD have been in the cream cheese (I use FF quark) and make a PB-based frosting for the cheesecake. **** I'm excited now

Waiting for snrygo to chime in. Get in here fugger!

[camlam]

Easy now cumbum I'm 5'10 and only 157lb, trying to stay lean on my bulk this time.

Keep the posts coming everyone, top 5 thread on BB.com


This thread has blown up again today!

[Cumulonimbus]

Me too. On Sunday. But I'll add some vanilla pudding mix instead of the vanilla extract, and use quark instead of cream cheese.

Will end up at 160g protein, 1200 kcal.
:D
'dis gonna be gud

Yum! I don't know if I should use FF cream cheese or quark

The SF/FF pudding mix sounds also good!


I used half cream cheese, half fat free ricotta. Turned out good.

But soon I am going to make a real New York style with FULL FAT Philadelphia and graham crackers crust, will not count macros not to get upset LOL.

Omg, plzzz wait like 8 hours, that's how long it takes me to get there, but it might take longer, my car burns a ton!

:D


Semi-slowly.
Off days -> about maintenance* (+/-100, still need to get a hang of this), so about 500-700 kcal more than I used to eat
Workout days -> still 3000 kcal, which puts me 300 kcal over maintenance*

*what the Bodymedia tells me

Haven't gained (or lost) weight so far, but I feel fatter, lol.
n-th degree mind****. But I'll just stick with it and increase calories steadily every ten days - two weeks.

(btw: still haven't reached a single 3k day, even on the day when I was running like a mother****er for 45 minutes straight and went for 3 walks afterwards... ended up at 2980 or so)

The mental game is tough, but do it for a week and then you'll just want MOAR FOOD


Hey thanks for answering my other question. I've got some good news and bad news. So my mom is letting me order 2 packs of the Anaconda Protocol so I can take it twice a day, the bad news is we did have to rent out our house to a mime convention to pay for my monthly supplement bill, but I'm gonna be huge I'm telling ya. Anyways I gotta a question about IIFYM, can I use this in the night too or is this a morning thing? Because I've heard you're more insulin sensative at night than in the morning due to the change in the sky, anyways I'm getting pretty big so yeah. Cool talking to you, see you in the IFBB.

Glad the anaconda protocol package when well, it is expensive but VERY worth the amazing gains. As for IIFYM, usually early in the morning when you are most insulin sensitive.


Easy now cumbum I'm 5'10 and only 157lb, trying to stay lean on my bulk this time.

Keep the posts coming everyone, top 5 thread on BB.com

not sure if srs

But really, lean bulk man

[juliacheh]

Omg, plzzz wait like 8 hours, that's how long it takes me to get there, but it might take longer, my car burns a ton!


Come over, I'll tell my husband that you are an au pair who will be taking care of Eugene.

[camlam]

SRS
No idea BF right now profile pic is from yesterday. (estimates)

Just started the last month, scale up average 2 lb.
Hitting PR's every workout feels good.

3500
P220
C500
F70

Working to hit 600 Cho think I'm going to drop protein to 210 it just seems I always hit 220 so I just stick with that.

[NVious]

Glad the anaconda protocol package when well, it is expensive but VERY worth the amazing gains. As for IIFYM, usually early in the morning when you are most insulin sensitive.



LMAO, I love trolling your log ;). Awesome job on dat der squat brah! Gonna be doing widowmaker sets with 405 soon!!

[snrygo]

you seriously have the most depressing avi I have ever seen. strong foreveralone shot
never realzed this til now...


I have no idea how he plans on cutting with no mass to begin with.
body dismorphia... been there, done that, got sick of it and manned up!



Waiting for snrygo to chime in. Get in here fugger!
shaz is 110% on the mark! quark is the shizz for cheesecake! it's actually how i make mine. as for the frosting, i would do some sort of peanut butter/chocolate drizzle to go on top after baking.

This all just made me realize that i havent made cheesecake in soo long. maybe i'll make some tomz. any flavor suggestions?

[LiftHeavy85]

bout to go full bulk mode till end of the year and see where it takes me, been so damn busy lately

[Cumulonimbus]

0... 0... fukcing numbers on my ticket from tonight's lotto. FUUUUUUUUUUU

[Cumulonimbus]

Wednesday

Offday

Nutrition
195/300/65 + street food and a pizza

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June15.png

Expenditure
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/BodybuggJune15.png

The Eats
Chocolate overnight oats topped with Lindt White/milk chocolate, Ferrero Rocher and banana, veggie omelet
Ghetto mexican pizza with beans, plum tomatoes, cheese and chicken topped with salsa
Chicken dumplings and shrimp
+
shawarma and pizza

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1783.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1784.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1785.jpg

Extras
Was in a rush to make it to Toronto so the eats were half assed lol. Went to go review some shots, and talk over the new agency auditions. Good day it was.

[Cumulonimbus]

Thursday

Chest and Back

Neutral Grip Machine Pulldown
150x10
150x10
150x10

DB Press
80x10
80x10
80x10

V-bar Row
3plates+25x8
3platesx10
3platesx10
3platesx10

Incline BB Press Shoulder, oopsies!
185x7
135x10
135x10

HS Row
2pps+25x12
2pps+25x12
2pps+25x12

Flyes
40x15
40x15

Nutrition
250/600/90

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June16.png

Expenditure
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/BodybuggJune16.png

The Eats
Pumpkin oats, veggie omelet
Everything bagel with ham and cheese, Chocolate chip rice cake and cracker jack rice cake with PB&Co WCW, frozen strawberries filled with WF pancake and chocolate syrup
WW bread, PB&Co CRS, banana and chicken sandwich, cinnamon caramel popcorn
Sludge, Reese Puffs, Honey Nut Chex, Chocolate Cheerios, Chocolate chip poptart
Banana muffin topped with chocolate sludge

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1787.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1788.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1790.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1796.jpg

Extras
Great workout besides the shoulder acting up weird on the incline BB press. I woke up flat today even though I got complimented today again on my swoli-osis. I think I have a G6P deficiency :p

[jaklcrow]

Haha, now noticed!!! U sir are correct.

LOLZ


LOL, man, you always make me laugh,digging your posts so much <8
:)

and you always make me smile :) <3


I have no idea how he plans on cutting with no mass to begin with.

ya seriously


Im even tempted to start bulking. 275 here i come :P

haha f-in do it. If I didnt need to get in epic aesthetic shape for my desired career I would totally work on just getting crazy massive lol. do it for all the lonely chinese food and sushi out there. you know how much CHO goes to bed alone and afraid every night? Its your responsibility, no its your duty to be their champion. Make us proud.



Party at Cum's, you're in I see :p

And chinese food is my weakness as well!

LOL I just noticed that!

- yayuhhhh
- lol



never realzed this til now...


- he should thank me for actually getting his profile some views

[HunterCML]

Those eatssss... do want. If I were you, I'd be eating at least 120g fats/day - not for any particular reason other than I like fats personally.

Brah, I was dieting like a retard; 1,800cals/day with intensive daily exercise when weightloss completely stopped.

Upped cals to 2,400 and stopped doing so much cardio and the weight is dropping like mad.. I may even have to raise it again soon if I don't balance out.

In other news, everyone is telling me to bulk now instead of my original plan. :(

[Cumulonimbus]

Pftt fukc fat, today was a nice 625g CHO. Why up fat when I could increase gym performance, plus I tend to flatten out so more CHO.

[AllGenetix]

you ate less calories than you burned the day before, i thought you were trying to gain muscle? no wonder you woke up flat eh?

remember, your body doesn't have a "24 hour clock" and say oh today is an off day and ill stop repair and recovery from previous bouts of exercise........i could see you eating maintenance if you were 1k+ on workout days, but your only 200ish.

[HunterCML]

Pftt fukc fat, today was a nice 625g CHO. Why up fat when I could increase gym performance, plus I tend to flatten out so more CHO.

When cutting, I prefer the increases in mood I notice when I keep dietary fat high. My spike in calories had me go from 100g carbs/day to 240g/day - and to be honest I haven't felt a huge difference.

With that said, you're bulking, you enjoy carbs -> fats, and the epic amounts of carbs per day you eat make me tune in nightly. :)

[Cumulonimbus]

you ate less calories than you burned the day before, i thought you were trying to gain muscle? no wonder you woke up flat eh?

remember, your body doesn't have a "24 hour clock" and say oh today is an off day and ill stop repair and recovery from previous bouts of exercise........i could see you eating maintenance if you were 1k+ on workout days, but your only 200ish.

I did mention I went out and ate food that I didn't track, l2 read.

Pizza + shawarma goof

[AllGenetix]

I did mention I went out and ate food that I didn't track, l2 read.

Pizza + shawarma goof
ok. still waking up flat should not happen when adding size

[TheNaturalOak]

Those eatssss... do want. If I were you, I'd be eating at least 120g fats/day - not for any particular reason other than I like fats personally.

Brah, I was dieting like a retard; 1,800cals/day with intensive daily exercise when weightloss completely stopped.

Upped cals to 2,400 and stopped doing so much cardio and the weight is dropping like mad.. I may even have to raise it again soon if I don't balance out.

In other news, everyone is telling me to bulk now instead of my original plan. :(

Im with you on the fats :)

But srsly you upped cals from 1800-2400 .... gradually or just BOOM? Not only that but how long till you started to "drop weight like mad" ?? Did you see a small weight increase at first?

Also, wats the deal with this Allgenetix guy? is he for cereal??

[Cumulonimbus]

Fukc fats

Allgen is a good bro. We trolls and I troll him with my naughty mouth :)

[TheNaturalOak]

Fukc fats

Allgen is a good bro. We trolls and I troll him with my naughty mouth :)

haha to each his own.

I do share the same passion for cereal/pop-tarts as u lol

[HunterCML]

Im with you on the fats :)

But srsly you upped cals from 1800-2400 .... gradually or just BOOM? Not only that but how long till you started to "drop weight like mad" ?? Did you see a small weight increase at first?

Also, wats the deal with this Allgenetix guy? is he for cereal??

I'll try to answer before I pass out. Laying in bed with my iPhone. lol.

I took a trip to Brazil for 10 days a did some intensive work there. Disregarded all dieting. Ate really nutrient dense food and plenty of it. I was also working very hard 8-10 hours of the day so I was burning calories like crazy. I continued to eat what ever I wanted to on non working days, and the days going back to the states.

When I got back I had gained 6 pounds. I decided to start from there fresh, and ate more and did less cardio. Dropped all the trip weight within 5 days, and now less than I was before I left and continuing to drop.

Barring possible health issues, I don't know how I would be losing more weight while eating more and doing less - but it's happening.

I know Paul has some interesting studies on it that I've seen him post before.


k bedtime

[TheNaturalOak]

I'll try to answer before I pass out. Laying in bed with my iPhone. lol.

I took a trip to Brazil for 10 days a did some intensive work there. Disregarded all dieting. Ate really nutrient dense food and plenty of it. I was also working very hard 8-10 hours of the day so I was burning calories like crazy. I continued to eat what ever I wanted to on non working days, and the days going back to the states.

When I got back I had gained 6 pounds. I decided to start from there fresh, and ate more and did less cardio. Dropped all the trip weight within 5 days, and now less than I was before I left and continuing to drop.

Barring possible health issues, I don't know how I would be losing more weight while eating more and doing less - but it's happening.

I know Paul has some interesting studies on it that I've seen him post before.


k bedtime

Interesting, thanks for the pre-bedtime write up.

Sorry to break the news to you but, to me it sounds like someone caught a tape-worm from brazil!

Haha I kid. Sounds awesome, glad I got ur story as it keeps me motivated and allows me to pass that mental block that lower cals always = more fat loss. Recently upped cals by 300. We'll see how it pans out!

[hankst]

The mental game is tough, but do it for a week and then you'll just want MOAR FOOD



Bam.
7:00 AM, 4 lbs heavier than usually, ab skinfold thicker than last week, too

So it begins.. :p
I'll not freak out, though. Gonna go for a short morning run and notasingle****willbegiven.jpg.

[tonytoo]

3C5NQzmfhag

Testing my video skills for up coming videos for our new channel

http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-BullSh*t-Bodybuilding

In the URL sub an 'i' for the *

Note my trophies in the BG :p

/liked.

damn there is too much going on in this thread to follow! - fuark having a real job now... back to working 10-12 hours a day is killing my gym time/thread lurking time!

[Ghosting]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3328/uloriot.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/uloriot.jpg/)

[Phrak]

Probably the strongest photoshop skills on the forum.

[camlam]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3328/uloriot.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/uloriot.jpg/)

On spread.

[Phrak]

haha f-in do it. If I didnt need to get in epic aesthetic shape for my desired career I would totally work on just getting crazy massive lol. do it for all the lonely chinese food and sushi out there. you know how much CHO goes to bed alone and afraid every night? Its your responsibility, no its your duty to be their champion. Make us proud.


I slept with a bag of shreddies by my bed last night, at least some carbs didnt go to bed lonely last night.

[jaklcrow]

I slept with a bag of shreddies by my bed last night, at least some carbs didnt go to bed lonely last night.

lol good man. and wtf are shreddies haha?

[Phrak]

Im not a huge fan of sugary cereals. These are my favourite.

http://i.imgur.com/PLMe4.jpg

[JHarden]

Dude, eats look amazing as usual.

How much water do you drink during the day? I've found that the leaner I am and the more I eat, the thirstier I am. I think if I was eating as much as you I would constantly have a bottle in hand, lol.

[snrygo]

I'll try to answer before I pass out. Laying in bed with my iPhone. lol.


no questions will be asked about this :D

[Cumulonimbus]

Err I was tired last night and meant to say my muscles produce G6P for dephosphorylation hence why I flatten out :p I r genetik fuxup

[b3b0p]

I'd bump CHO to 800 if I was sponsored by the, LOL

lol, i'll let him know and see if has any contacts there.

Btw, since taking your advice (slowly upping calories and carbs), according to my Bodymedia Fit, my burn was the highest ever yesterday. And my resting burn rate through out the day seems to be up 10% to 20% right now on average. I hope this keeps up. Up to 235-285 cho on workout days (weekly kcal average is up 10-15% from what it was).

Edit:

Also, Paul, when you first started slowly adding more cho and cals, did you notice you got DOMS/Sore alot easier? It's like everything I make any sort of exerted effort lifting makes me sore the past few days. I did 3 sets of squats, maybe 4-6 reps. Normally, 99.9% of the time I would not get DOMS... today oh FU(&!

[jaklcrow]

Im not a huge fan of sugary cereals. These are my favourite.

ttp://i.imgur.com/PLMe4.jpg[/IMG]

ah ok ya we have stuff like that, agreed they are good. My love for sugary cereals is pretty strong though lol

[ispankmidgets]

Paul do you ever get impatient when cutting/bulking? And how do you deal? Probably the biggest mindf*ck for me. I'm fairly patient, but after a month or two I'm like lets gooooooooo! With only a 200+ calorie surplus I think I'd get real impatient.


If I didnt need to get in epic aesthetic shape for my desired career I would totally work on just getting crazy massive lol.

whats desired career brah? modeling? acting?


http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3328/uloriot.jpg

I lol'd


Probably the strongest photoshop skills on the forum.

Hahah for real.

[jaklcrow]

whats desired career brah? modeling? acting?


both. Mainly acting but I would love to do some modeling as well. Recently graduated film school so I havnt done much yet, just a few vids here and there over the last few years. The goal is to be the next action star lol. Most actors actually stay in SHT shape until they get the roles so I figure the more I can do to set myself apart from the get go the better. Like Gerard Buttler.... Was around him quite a bit a few months ago for his movie hes shooting now, Playing the Field, and lol yaaaa he doesnt even remotely maintain a decent physique. So 6-8%, hold, get sht rollin is the plan lol.

[Ghosting]

Err I was tired last night and meant to say my muscles produce G6P for dephosphorylation hence why I flatten out :p I r genetik fuxup
Bro, not even a courtesy laugh about my amazing chop skills? :(

[ispankmidgets]

both. Mainly acting but I would love to do some modeling as well. Recently graduated film school so I havnt done much yet, just a few vids here and there over the last few years. The goal is to be the next action star lol. Most actors actually stay in SHT shape until they get the roles so I figure the more I can do to set myself apart from the get go the better. Like Gerard Buttler.... Was around him quite a bit a few months ago for his movie hes shooting now, Playing the Field, and lol yaaaa he doesnt even remotely maintain a decent physique. So 6-8%, hold, get sht rollin is the plan lol.

Yeah I thought so when you said that. I'm doing the same thing man. Currently studying film with some acting on the side, but the dream is to be a professional actor. So cliche. May be in impossible, but we all have dreams.

Trying to get into modeling as well, mostly as a stepping stone, but I'm not where I need to be yet (I'm about 12-13% BF). And yeah, having a killer physique opens doors in the film industry for sure. Brad Pitt is a great actor, but like many, his physique helped launch his career (Thelma & Louise).

No getting hooooooge for me, although it would be fun.

[Cumulonimbus]

haha f-in do it. If I didnt need to get in epic aesthetic shape for my desired career I would totally work on just getting crazy massive lol. do it for all the lonely chinese food and sushi out there. you know how much CHO goes to bed alone and afraid every night? Its your responsibility, no its your duty to be their champion. Make us proud.


Interdesting. I'm also getting into modelling and acting on the side :p



In other news, everyone is telling me to bulk now instead of my original plan. :(

What is your current BF?


When cutting, I prefer the increases in mood I notice when I keep dietary fat high. My spike in calories had me go from 100g carbs/day to 240g/day - and to be honest I haven't felt a huge difference.

With that said, you're bulking, you enjoy carbs -> fats, and the epic amounts of carbs per day you eat make me tune in nightly. :)

Dietary fats do little personally


ok. still waking up flat should not happen when adding size

635g CHO, weirrrd lewl. Takes me about 3 meals/350g CHO to start filling out :p


Im with you on the fats :)

But srsly you upped cals from 1800-2400 .... gradually or just BOOM? Not only that but how long till you started to "drop weight like mad" ?? Did you see a small weight increase at first?

Also, wats the deal with this Allgenetix guy? is he for cereal??

Gradually increased.


haha to each his own.

I do share the same passion for cereal/pop-tarts as u lol

Performance wise, CHO


I'll try to answer before I pass out. Laying in bed with my iPhone. lol.

I took a trip to Brazil for 10 days a did some intensive work there. Disregarded all dieting. Ate really nutrient dense food and plenty of it. I was also working very hard 8-10 hours of the day so I was burning calories like crazy. I continued to eat what ever I wanted to on non working days, and the days going back to the states.

When I got back I had gained 6 pounds. I decided to start from there fresh, and ate more and did less cardio. Dropped all the trip weight within 5 days, and now less than I was before I left and continuing to drop.

Barring possible health issues, I don't know how I would be losing more weight while eating more and doing less - but it's happening.

I know Paul has some interesting studies on it that I've seen him post before.


k bedtime

TDFLE


Interesting, thanks for the pre-bedtime write up.

Sorry to break the news to you but, to me it sounds like someone caught a tape-worm from brazil!

Haha I kid. Sounds awesome, glad I got ur story as it keeps me motivated and allows me to pass that mental block that lower cals always = more fat loss. Recently upped cals by 300. We'll see how it pans out!

Nice, curious to see how that will work out


Bam.
7:00 AM, 4 lbs heavier than usually, ab skinfold thicker than last week, too

So it begins.. :p
I'll not freak out, though. Gonna go for a short morning run and notasingle****willbegiven.jpg.

Pft oh come on, I put on some fluff, but it's worth the food :D


/liked.

damn there is too much going on in this thread to follow! - fuark having a real job now... back to working 10-12 hours a day is killing my gym time/thread lurking time!

Lurk at work lewl


[IMG]http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3328/uloriot.jpg[IMG] (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/uloriot.jpg/)

Sir... my hat goes off to you. LOL!

My face looks srs. srs face is srs


Probably the strongest photoshop skills on the forum.


On spread.

Amazing photochop skills. However, not a single fukc was given WRT hockey :D


I slept with a bag of shreddies by my bed last night, at least some carbs didnt go to bed lonely last night.

Dude, the insulin fairy, never sleep with carbs!

[ispankmidgets]

Interdesting. I'm also getting into modelling and acting on the side :p

This is why I said so cliche. So are 1000000000000000 people haha :p

[Cumulonimbus]

Dude, eats look amazing as usual.

How much water do you drink during the day? I've found that the leaner I am and the more I eat, the thirstier I am. I think if I was eating as much as you I would constantly have a bottle in hand, lol.

About 6L of water and 1-2L of diet pop lol


no questions will be asked about this :D


lol, i'll let him know and see if has any contacts there.

Btw, since taking your advice (slowly upping calories and carbs), according to my Bodymedia Fit, my burn was the highest ever yesterday. And my resting burn rate through out the day seems to be up 10% to 20% right now on average. I hope this keeps up. Up to 235-285 cho on workout days (weekly kcal average is up 10-15% from what it was).

Edit:

Also, Paul, when you first started slowly adding more cho and cals, did you notice you got DOMS/Sore alot easier? It's like everything I make any sort of exerted effort lifting makes me sore the past few days. I did 3 sets of squats, maybe 4-6 reps. Normally, 99.9% of the time I would not get DOMS... today oh FU(&!

Solid! More cals is like a snowball effect. Better gym performance, more NEAT, more cals burned therefore gotta up them even more, and so on!

Hmm, I never really paid attention. DOMS is a rather false way to tell if you're recovered or had a "good workout". Some days I have it and some days I don't. I always tend to get it in my chest and glute/ham tie-in area.


ah ok ya we have stuff like that, agreed they are good. My love for sugary cereals is pretty strong though lol

Sugar cereals, MOAR MOAR MOAR!


Paul do you ever get impatient when cutting/bulking? And how do you deal? Probably the biggest mindf*ck for me. I'm fairly patient, but after a month or two I'm like lets gooooooooo! With only a 200+ calorie surplus I think I'd get real impatient.

Nah never get impatient with cutting. When I dieted I took my time, I had a good chunk of time for my show so I went slow, but I did get a bit impatient in between my two shows however. With bulking, lately I have been getting impatient, so I upped my food for teh luls.


both. Mainly acting but I would love to do some modeling as well. Recently graduated film school so I havnt done much yet, just a few vids here and there over the last few years. The goal is to be the next action star lol. Most actors actually stay in SHT shape until they get the roles so I figure the more I can do to set myself apart from the get go the better. Like Gerard Buttler.... Was around him quite a bit a few months ago for his movie hes shooting now, Playing the Field, and lol yaaaa he doesnt even remotely maintain a decent physique. So 6-8%, hold, get sht rollin is the plan lol.

Nice, similar to my interest! Now I hope people understand why I stay lean :p


Bro, not even a courtesy laugh about my amazing chop skills? :(

Eh, it was written on my iPhone, gimmie some time lol


Yeah I thought so when you said that. I'm doing the same thing man. Currently studying film with some acting on the side, but the dream is to be a professional actor. So cliche. May be in impossible, but we all have dreams.

Trying to get into modeling as well, mostly as a stepping stone, but I'm not where I need to be yet (I'm about 12-13% BF). And yeah, having a killer physique opens doors in the film industry for sure. Brad Pitt is a great actor, but like many, his physique helped launch his career (Thelma & Louise).

No getting hooooooge for me, although it would be fun.

Man, we all have a similar interest! But if you're going to get into modelling, go for fashion/advertisement. Fitness modelling has little $$$. Commercials are around $100-110/hr

[HunterCML]

What is your current BF?


No clue. I would estimate ~ 15-16%. I would hate to start a bulk with such a high %.

[Cumulonimbus]

No clue. I would estimate ~ 15-16%. I would hate to start a bulk with such a high %.

Yeah cut down to 7-10% and then bulk bro

[Cumulonimbus]

These two recipes interest me

http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/philly-blueberry-swirl-cheesecake-76176.aspx

and

http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/philadelphia-blueberry-crown-cheesecake-70019.aspx

[hankst]

Yeah cut down to 7-10% and then bulk bro

I disagree; he posted this pic (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv332/ArmyPunk210/IMG_0956.jpg) in the bodybugg thread, and I think it's a good base for a slow bulk, to be honest.

[jaklcrow]

Yeah I thought so when you said that. I'm doing the same thing man. Currently studying film with some acting on the side, but the dream is to be a professional actor. So cliche. May be in impossible, but we all have dreams.

Trying to get into modeling as well, mostly as a stepping stone, but I'm not where I need to be yet (I'm about 12-13% BF). And yeah, having a killer physique opens doors in the film industry for sure. Brad Pitt is a great actor, but like many, his physique helped launch his career (Thelma & Louise).

No getting hooooooge for me, although it would be fun.

o hell ya dude. you very far along with the degree? and who gives a Fk how cliche it is, if no one tried because of how hard it is we wouldnt have any movies haha :p. keep pushin man u never know.

and yaa there are quite a few guys/girls that dont bring a ton acting wise, at least at first, but just look damn good lol.



Sugar cereals, MOAR MOAR MOAR!
Nice, similar to my interest! Now I hope people understand why I stay lean :p


- damn right
- haha hell ya gotta look good year round

Ok might as well use this as a shameless plug for a one of my fav things I was in a while back, since were on the topic and all :p. I was quite a bit, bulkier in it though haha. I have never tried to imbed vimeo vids so hang in there if I f-it up a few times, idk if it works like youtube.

O well FFF heres the 2 links, if anyone knows how to embed a vid from vimeo, sweeet
http://vimeo.com/9240540

And heres a behind the scenes, its cool to see some of what goes into making this stuff IMO.
http://vimeo.com/9258436

[juliacheh]

I am no model, but I will stay lean from now on too.
I was lean on a prior bulk, but I am going to stay even leaner. You, guys, all motivate me, so thanks :)

[jaklcrow]

I am no model, but I will stay lean from now on too.
I was lean on a prior bulk, but I am going to stay even leaner. You, guys, all motivate me, so thanks :)

you are damn motivational yourself! :)

[ispankmidgets]

Man, we all have a similar interest! But if you're going to get into modelling, go for fashion/advertisement. Fitness modelling has little $$$. Commercials are around $100-110/hr

Yeah, that's what I'm shooting for. I'm not ripped enough for fitness. And definitely trying for commercials. More money and carries over better for acting (looks better on thee resume).



o hell ya dude. you very far along with the degree? and who gives a Fk how cliche it is, if no one tried because of how hard it is we wouldnt have any movies haha :p. keep pushin man u never know.

Not very far. Got about a year and half to go (studying at a University. Production-wise kind of sucks.) Almost went to Full Sail for it, but didn't know if that's what I truly wanted to do and didn't want to drop that much cash.

Exactly. I'm gonna go for it and not a single f*ck will be given. Packing up all my **** into the car and driving out to LA or NYC as soon as I graduate. Getting some experience here first before I make the big move, though.

[jaklcrow]

Not very far. Got about a year and half to go (studying at a University. Production-wise kind of sucks.) Almost went to Full Sail for it, but didn't know if that's what I truly wanted to do and didn't want to drop that much cash.

Exactly. I'm gonna go for it and not a single f*ck will be given. Packing up all my **** into the car and driving out to LA or NYC as soon as I graduate. Getting some experience here first before I make the big move, though.

ah ok thats not too long, sht flyss by. and ya I have heard most normal universities dont have a ton of stuff for you to do with the production aspect. and lol Full Sail is where I went actually. I loved it but ya money wise its just insane. Good luck with the move when youre finished. We should have gone somewhere like that, but the school recommended Louisiana and this is where my GF is from so it seamed like a good choice. Blah, hopefully cali in the next few years

[b3b0p]

Yeah cut down to 7-10% and then bulk bro


I disagree; he posted this pic (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv332/ArmyPunk210/IMG_0956.jpg) in the bodybugg thread, and I think it's a good base for a slow bulk, to be honest.


He's gotta do what he feels comfortable with.

Best examples I can think of are Martin's clients (from Leangains). None of his clients are huge, but they seem to all be happier with themselves mentally and physically. Which is important.

He has some skinny kids as clients that you might put on the edge of skinny fat, but from their results on his page they seem to be very happy and feel better about themselves overall even though they are skinny as a rail. Hopefully now though they are working on bulking up a little.

http://www.leangains.com/search/label/Client%20results

I am almost exactly the size of Jordan from that link. As lean? I have no clue. I don't even know my bf, I just go by comfort level and mirror. My profile pic is from 2 days ago. And I would rather be skinny, lean, and athletic and physically and mentally feel good about myself.

I'm bulking, slowly ramping up my kcals like Paul suggested now. This is my first stable controlled week and it feels good man! No beach whale feeling, no boobies shaking in the car feeling, no ring around my ankle from socks. I'm skinny as a freakin rail, but I'm hoping that changes over the next 6-12 months. I Just gotta stick with my plan, ask questions when needed and not make any hap hazard quick decisions to get me off track. Oh, and not be anal or ocd about this ****. it's all in good fun, and challenge.

I did the modeling thing and quit after 3-6 months and them telling me I needed to get leaner using careful words. That's what got me in to this mess and feeling like ****. Luckily I found Paul's thread.

[hankst]

Yeah, I understand, but Hunter is already very skinny, and there is not a ton of fat left. But it's up to him.

[HunterCML]

Would my original plan of cutting to 165 (estimated 12%BF) be detrimental to my body though? I don't think the extra 10 pounds is a huge deal. Idk.

[jaklcrow]

Would my original plan of cutting to 165 (estimated 12%BF) be detrimental to my body though? I don't think the extra 10 pounds is a huge deal. Idk.

no as long as you're doing it slowly and retaining most of your LBM it wont be a big deal.

[ispankmidgets]

No clue. I would estimate ~ 15-16%. I would hate to start a bulk with such a high %.

I felt the same way. I wanted to get shredded for once.


ah ok thats not too long, sht flyss by. and ya I have heard most normal universities dont have a ton of stuff for you to do with the production aspect. and lol Full Sail is where I went actually. I loved it but ya money wise its just insane. Good luck with the move when youre finished. We should have gone somewhere like that, but the school recommended Louisiana and this is where my GF is from so it seamed like a good choice. Blah, hopefully cali in the next few years

Yeah, I'm only required to take one production class for my major, but I should have a couple electives left so I'll definitely take more.

And that's funny as hell that I said that and you went there. It looked cool as f*ck.

I want to transfer to UCLA, but I really just want to graduate and get the f*ck out. Can always go there for grad school.

[ananf72]

This log moves so fast... They still sell crackerjacks? Do they still put prizes in them? Notice that you eat the ends of the bread. I should pack all the ends up instead of throwing them in the compost then mail them to you. Would save you a billion dollars. lol@ hockey pic. My boston family/friends are delighted however.

@ ghosting. I've given out way more than 5 reps and still can't give back to you and julia yet. I especially owe you for the tea out my nose. Feels bad but haven't forgotten.

[Shazriki]

I've been lean gaining for the past 3.5 months. When I started I was approx. 183-184 @ 16% bf. Since then I've gained roughly 10 lbs with trace fat gains (that includes beginning supplementing with creatine though). Point is, you can start bulking whenever YOU feel ready. My personal choice was not to continue cutting because with my current LBM shredded would just look silly. If done properly it's not like you have to go out and buy a new wardrobe. This morning I tipped the scales at just under 194 and I'm still rocking a 32" waist (and I have a genetic fat-ass) so don't worry about starting a bulk at a non-ideal bf%.

[Ghosting]

@ ghosting. I've given out way more than 5 reps and still can't give back to you and julia yet. I especially owe you for the tea out my nose. Feels bad but haven't forgotten.


No biggie. I was surprised that I got a ton of reps for it. I just thought it was funny, I didn't think others would find it as funny. I'm just glad that it made others smile. :) Too many people take this online stuff too seriously. :)

[snrygo]

No clue. I would estimate ~ 15-16%. I would hate to start a bulk with such a high %.


I've been lean gaining for the past 3.5 months. When I started I was approx. 183-184 @ 16% bf. Since then I've gained roughly 10 lbs with trace fat gains (that includes beginning supplementing with creatine though). Point is, you can start bulking whenever YOU feel ready. My personal choice was not to continue cutting because with my current LBM shredded would just look silly. If done properly it's not like you have to go out and buy a new wardrobe. This morning I tipped the scales at just under 194 and I'm still rocking a 32" waist (and I have a genetic fat-ass) so don't worry about starting a bulk at a non-ideal bf%.

bulking @ 16% and not stopping until 1 hit 125lbs

notasinglefukisgiven.jpg

[juliacheh]

you are damn motivational yourself! :)

Thank you:)

Chad, I wouldn't cut for long. Maybe just a bit more for you to be more comfortable and start a slow bulk.
Just my two cents.

[HunterCML]

Chad, I wouldn't cut for long. Maybe just a bit more for you to be more comfortable and start a slow bulk.
Just my two cents.

Thanks for the advice Julia, I don't take advice lightly when it comes from members I really admire and respect.

It's a two sided coin. I've never bulked before, so all my LBM is pretty much the hidden mass I had hidden away when I was 285lbs+. Sadly, over the course of losing all my weight, I've lost a lot of that LBM.

When I bulk, I plan on hitting around 200lbs for my first attempt (I suspect it will be super easy since I gain weight fairly easily). So I figure the leaner I get pre-bulk the less I'll have to trim off once the bulk is complete.

Ideally, I only want to have to cut 10 pounds maximum by the end. Hoping to land myself at a very lean 190lbs or so.*



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* very lean as in low teens (sub 12% preferably) -- bulk planned on being super slow and as lean as being natty will allow me. 2-3 pounds/month.

[TheNaturalOak]

Thanks for the advice Julia, I don't take advice lightly when it comes from members I really admire and respect.

It's a two sided coin. I've never bulked before, so all my LBM is pretty much the hidden mass I had hidden away when I was 285lbs+. Sadly, over the course of losing all my weight, I've lost a lot of that LBM.

When I bulk, I plan on hitting around 200lbs for my first attempt (I suspect it will be super easy since I gain weight fairly easily). So I figure the leaner I get pre-bulk the less I'll have to trim off once the bulk is complete.

Ideally, I only want to have to cut 10 pounds maximum by the end. Hoping to land myself at a very lean 190lbs or so.*

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* very lean as in low teens (sub 12% preferably) -- bulk planned on being super slow and as lean as being natty will allow me. 2-3 pounds/month.

I dont suggest bulking to a certain weight. Or atleast keep ur options open.

I set a quest to hit 200lbs and I did it! but of course when I got there it was time for me to start preping for a bb contest..... 40lbs later im sure I lost a good amount of LBM.

My plan is to clean bulk.... stay on the leaner side (not over 12%) or do periodic cuts or set cals at maint for a week etc.

But to each his own :)

[juliacheh]

I agree with TheNaturalOak here.
I personally don't set any goals in numbers - whether I am cutting or bulking, that's why Alan's concept of target bodyweight is a little unclear to me.
When I started this cut, I had no clue where I was going to end up in terms of bodyweight. I go by the mirror usually, I do use the scale but with the water fluctuations that I am having it's so much mindfuk that I prefer mirror and tape measurements.

[stevenkim2012]

Hi, I usually lurk this thread. Anyways I respect many of the posters here and I wanted some advice on whether I should "bulk", "cut", or "recomp". I am currently 160 lbs about 12-14% body fat. Thanks for any advice :)

[juliacheh]

Hi, I usually lurk this thread. Anyways I respect many of the posters here and I wanted some advice on whether I should "bulk", "cut", or "recomp". I am currently 160 lbs about 12-14% body fat. Thanks for any advice :)

Do you have pictures?

[stevenkim2012]

Do you have pictures?

not right now but can post later if you would still be willing to help! My bed time is approaching ;)

[juliacheh]

not right now but can post later if you would still be willing to help! My bed time is approaching ;)

Sure, you can PM if you want, good night.

[IronResolution]

Parking was $20.00....

Was definitely worth.
Met the pros and biddies.
Made useful acquaintances.
MAD supplement stash (see log).

Next time!

[jaklcrow]

Thank you:)


:)


Thanks for the advice Julia, I don't take advice lightly when it comes from members I really admire and respect.

It's a two sided coin. I've never bulked before, so all my LBM is pretty much the hidden mass I had hidden away when I was 285lbs+. Sadly, over the course of losing all my weight, I've lost a lot of that LBM.

When I bulk, I plan on hitting around 200lbs for my first attempt (I suspect it will be super easy since I gain weight fairly easily). So I figure the leaner I get pre-bulk the less I'll have to trim off once the bulk is complete.

Ideally, I only want to have to cut 10 pounds maximum by the end. Hoping to land myself at a very lean 190lbs or so.*

* very lean as in low teens (sub 12% preferably) -- bulk planned on being super slow and as lean as being natty will allow me. 2-3 pounds/month.

you're dead to me FYI

[juliacheh]

:)

you're dead to me FYI

wut?:)

[jaklcrow]

wut?:)

lol you're so fast! idk sht happens when u party naked.

[juliacheh]

lol you're so fast! idk sht happens when u party naked.

LOOOOL

Yeah, I miss Paul, I ate a poptart today in his honor LOL.

[jaklcrow]

LOOOOL

Yeah, I miss Paul, I ate a poptart today in his honor LOL.

:(, and LOL thats awesome, what flavor?

[juliacheh]

:(, and LOL thats awesome, what flavor?

Strawberry, I kinda indulged myself today to be honest, didn't track anything, but I am back on the diet tomorrow, I consider my cut finished and done. so freaking tired of this sh...t.
I have no clue how competitors do it, mad props to them, I'll probably never get into contest conditioning.

[jaklcrow]

Strawberry, I kinda indulged myself today to be honest, didn't track anything, but I am back on the diet tomorrow, I consider my cut finished and done. so freaking tired of this sh...t.
I have no clue how competitors do it, mad props to them, I'll probably never get into contest conditioning.

hell ya best fruit flavor hands down lol. def good to do every once in a while, I actually didnt either today. Was out most of the day so just ballparked it all haha.

and are u kidding? you have done amazing work and are already insanely lean. If you actually picked out a contest and had that date set, no question you would walk on that stage shredded as fk. Dont short change your accomplishment like that thats BS; Fk whatever has u saying F-it right now, get back on tomorrow and keep going until u hit that goal of competition condition u set for yourself. Seriously, take a deep breath, look at some old pictures, then look in the mirror, and get your mind back into it. You will know how they do it soon OK :)! seriously, FK that bs

[juliacheh]

hell ya best fruit flavor hands down lol. def good to do every once in a while, I actually didnt either today. Was out most of the day so just ballparked it all haha.

and are u kidding?

Thanks, man. I thought next year, but now I doubt it. Too much mindfuk for me.
I'll see. Good that I didn't jump into it like the other girls and decided to see how it's like first LOL. When I diet, I start feeling bad and can't do anything, like constant brain fogs, and I have a child that needs my attention.

And lol that we both didn't diet today, that's just awesome. :D

[jaklcrow]

Thanks, man. I thought next year, but now I doubt it. Too much mindfuk for me.
I'll see. Good that I didn't jump into it like the other girls and decided to see how it's like first LOL. When I diet, I start feeling bad and can't do anything, like constant brain fogs, and I have a child that needs my attention.

And lol that we both didn't diet today, that's just awesome. :D

:( that sucks, but I know what u mean. Thankfully I havnt had to get very low this round yet but ya I got pretty bad on the last one. and who knows, maybe a little break is all u need and if u decide to actually do one in the future it could be much easier the next time :). And ya I understand the child thing, I have a little boy myself. He will be 1 in 5 days :)!!

LOL ya thats hilarious! well I gotta get to bed haha, talk to u tomorrow I'm sure!

[l2ambo]

Cumul I'm burning 1.8/min sleeping. Is that high?

[TheNaturalOak]

Thanks, man. I thought next year, but now I doubt it. Too much mindfuk for me.
I'll see. Good that I didn't jump into it like the other girls and decided to see how it's like first LOL. When I diet, I start feeling bad and can't do anything, like constant brain fogs, and I have a child that needs my attention.

And lol that we both didn't diet today, that's just awesome. :D

Thats the diet talking honey.

I was so sick of dieting for my show but then once I allowed that one day binge post show. I was 110% ready the following monday. Its so strange, its easier to stick to the diet now after allowing myself go crazy. Tbh I enjoy my diet, and well of course low energy and cardio sucks but I want that damn conditioning!

And your also shredded, like jak said, you got contest lean on a "trial." Thats impressive!!

Once ur hormones get back to normal and u the stress leaves, I bet you'll be more than ready mentally/physically to compete next year.

[HunterCML]

I have no clue how competitors do it, mad props to them, I'll probably never get into contest conditioning.

notsureifsrs

[juliacheh]

Thats the diet talking honey.

I was so sick of dieting for my show but then once I allowed that one day binge post show. I was 110% ready the following monday. Its so strange, its easier to stick to the diet now after allowing myself go crazy. Tbh I enjoy my diet, and well of course low energy and cardio sucks but I want that damn conditioning!

And your also shredded, like jak said, you got contest lean on a "trial." Thats impressive!!

Once ur hormones get back to normal and u the stress leaves, I bet you'll be more than ready mentally/physically to compete next year.

Thanks for support. Nowhere near shredded though.
I loved honey, lol I am turning into a full-blown cougar, thank you, bodybuilding.com :D:D


notsureifsrs

Well, have you seen Paul's glutes? (I bet you have, and were mirin hard :D:D)
Mine are nowhere near like Paul's. not even one fifth of that shreddedness. :)

Going to bed.

Paul, I am sorry for posting all this crap today in your log, I would give you all the cookies, cakes and poptarts I have, I am not going to eat any of this crap.

Good night, everybody.
:)

[ibracadabra]

Try slipping 10's under your heels. That's what I do to go super low


I have seen people do this quite often, but never understood it until now. Do you do it this way all the time? Also, are there any other benefits to this method?

[juliacheh]

Wow, I was uptight yesterday LOL.
Alan said - perfect cut, no need to cut any further, because a lot of women overcut and lose muscle, look unhealthy and stringy.

Oh boy, i can't even imagine what competing bodybuilders go through, if I am having so much mind**** just on a cut. Good that I wrote to Alan, and he calmed me down, only he can do this. :D:D

Mad props to Paul and other guys who compete.

[Cumulonimbus]

I disagree; he posted this pic (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv332/ArmyPunk210/IMG_0956.jpg) in the bodybugg thread, and I think it's a good base for a slow bulk, to be honest.

Ah I never viewed that before, but now I will agree that a slight caloric surplus would be a good idea. HOWEVER, if your weight loss is currently linear with no stalls, then carry on for another 3-4 weeks, from there on bulk.


o hell ya dude. you very far along with the degree? and who gives a Fk how cliche it is, if no one tried because of how hard it is we wouldnt have any movies haha : p. keep pushin man u never know.

and yaa there are quite a few guys/girls that dont bring a ton acting wise, at least at first, but just look damn good lol.



- damn right
- haha hell ya gotta look good year round

Ok might as well use this as a shameless plug for a one of my fav things I was in a while back, since were on the topic and all : p. I was quite a bit, bulkier in it though haha. I have never tried to imbed vimeo vids so hang in there if I f-it up a few times, idk if it works like youtube.

O well FFF heres the 2 links, if anyone knows how to embed a vid from vimeo, sweeet
http://vimeo.com/9240540


And heres a behind the scenes, its cool to see some of what goes into making this stuff IMO.
http://vimeo.com/9258436

Thanks for the videos man, so you and Spank are going to uni for acting?


I am no model, but I will stay lean from now on too.
I was lean on a prior bulk, but I am going to stay even leaner. You, guys, all motivate me, so thanks : )

So I just got back and viewed your photos.. uhm, GET ON STAGE. WHAT THE FUKC. GSAFSVf!! You're leaner than me lady!


you are damn motivational yourself! :)

She sure as hell is, her dedication and consistency is phenomenal.


Yeah, that's what I'm shooting for. I'm not ripped enough for fitness. And definitely trying for commercials. More money and carries over better for acting (looks better on thee resume).




Not very far. Got about a year and half to go (studying at a University. Production-wise kind of sucks.) Almost went to Full Sail for it, but didn't know if that's what I truly wanted to do and didn't want to drop that much cash.

Exactly. I'm gonna go for it and not a single f*ck will be given. Packing up all my **** into the car and driving out to LA or NYC as soon as I graduate. Getting some experience here first before I make the big move, though.



ah ok thats not too long, sht flyss by. and ya I have heard most normal universities dont have a ton of stuff for you to do with the production aspect. and lol Full Sail is where I went actually. I loved it but ya money wise its just insane. Good luck with the move when youre finished. We should have gone somewhere like that, but the school recommended Louisiana and this is where my GF is from so it seamed like a good choice. Blah, hopefully cali in the next few years

Damn sounds like you guys got big plans! I'll see where my modelling takes me with the new agency :)


He's gotta do what he feels comfortable with.

Best examples I can think of are Martin's clients (from Leangains). None of his clients are huge, but they seem to all be happier with themselves mentally and physically. Which is important.

He has some skinny kids as clients that you might put on the edge of skinny fat, but from their results on his page they seem to be very happy and feel better about themselves overall even though they are skinny as a rail. Hopefully now though they are working on bulking up a little.

http://www.leangains.com/search/label/Client%20results

I am almost exactly the size of Jordan from that link. As lean? I have no clue. I don't even know my bf, I just go by comfort level and mirror. My profile pic is from 2 days ago. And I would rather be skinny, lean, and athletic and physically and mentally feel good about myself.

I'm bulking, slowly ramping up my kcals like Paul suggested now. This is my first stable controlled week and it feels good man! No beach whale feeling, no boobies shaking in the car feeling, no ring around my ankle from socks. I'm skinny as a freakin rail, but I'm hoping that changes over the next 6-12 months. I Just gotta stick with my plan, ask questions when needed and not make any hap hazard quick decisions to get me off track. Oh, and not be anal or ocd about this ****. it's all in good fun, and challenge.

I did the modeling thing and quit after 3-6 months and them telling me I needed to get leaner using careful words. That's what got me in to this mess and feeling like ****. Luckily I found Paul's thread.

Solid action with the reverse.

As for the modelling, sorry to hear man. That's why I'm getting calls and auditions I guess, because of my great portfolio and leanness :p


Yeah, I understand, but Hunter is already very skinny, and there is not a ton of fat left. But it's up to him.

Now that I've seen the photo I can slightly agree


Would my original plan of cutting to 165 (estimated 12%BF) be detrimental to my body though? I don't think the extra 10 pounds is a huge deal. Idk.

If you can do it with the weight loss currently being and staying linear, then continue, but if you're struggling then lean bulk bro


no as long as you're doing it slowly and retaining most of your LBM it wont be a big deal.

Yup.



This log moves so fast... They still sell crackerjacks? Do they still put prizes in them? Notice that you eat the ends of the bread. I should pack all the ends up instead of throwing them in the compost then mail them to you. Would save you a billion dollars. lol@ hockey pic. My boston family/friends are delighted however.

@ ghosting. I've given out way more than 5 reps and still can't give back to you and julia yet. I especially owe you for the tea out my nose. Feels bad but haven't forgotten.

It sure does, tough catching up myself haha. The crackerjacks are Quaker rice cakes, but they do sell crackerjacks as well. No clue about the prizes lol. The ends on the bread is the best part IMO :D And Ghosting did nail it with the pic, I LOL'd hard.


I've been lean gaining for the past 3.5 months. When I started I was approx. 183-184 @ 16% bf. Since then I've gained roughly 10 lbs with trace fat gains (that includes beginning supplementing with creatine though). Point is, you can start bulking whenever YOU feel ready. My personal choice was not to continue cutting because with my current LBM shredded would just look silly. If done properly it's not like you have to go out and buy a new wardrobe. This morning I tipped the scales at just under 194 and I'm still rocking a 32" waist (and I have a genetic fat-ass) so don't worry about starting a bulk at a non-ideal bf%.

Why are you correlating creatine use to fat gains? They have nothing to do with each other bro. And agreed on the fat:muscle gain ratio. The fat gain sure as hell outweighs any trace amounts of fat if bulked slowly and carefully.


No biggie. I was surprised that I got a ton of reps for it. I just thought it was funny, I didn't think others would find it as funny. I'm just glad that it made others smile. :) Too many people take this online stuff too seriously. :)


bulking @ 16% and not stopping until 1 hit 125lbs

notasinglefukisgiven.jpg

Your call bro!


Thank you:)

Chad, I wouldn't cut for long. Maybe just a bit more for you to be more comfortable and start a slow bulk.
Just my two cents.

Agreed in a way


Thanks for the advice Julia, I don't take advice lightly when it comes from members I really admire and respect.

It's a two sided coin. I've never bulked before, so all my LBM is pretty much the hidden mass I had hidden away when I was 285lbs+. Sadly, over the course of losing all my weight, I've lost a lot of that LBM.

When I bulk, I plan on hitting around 200lbs for my first attempt (I suspect it will be super easy since I gain weight fairly easily). So I figure the leaner I get pre-bulk the less I'll have to trim off once the bulk is complete.

Ideally, I only want to have to cut 10 pounds maximum by the end. Hoping to land myself at a very lean 190lbs or so.*



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* very lean as in low teens (sub 12% preferably) -- bulk planned on being super slow and as lean as being natty will allow me. 2-3 pounds/month.

You also gotta consider if you gain FFM at a faster rate than FM, your BF% actually drops due to the ratio.


I dont suggest bulking to a certain weight. Or atleast keep ur options open.

I set a quest to hit 200lbs and I did it! but of course when I got there it was time for me to start preping for a bb contest..... 40lbs later im sure I lost a good amount of LBM.

My plan is to clean bulk.... stay on the leaner side (not over 12%) or do periodic cuts or set cals at maint for a week etc.

But to each his own :)

Yeah I just have a rough weight that I want to hit, but everything else is by feel, scale and mirror... and half of it is also not giving a fukc and wanting MOAR FOOD. I just set ballpark numbers. 180lbs short term, 190lbs long term

[Cumulonimbus]

I agree with TheNaturalOak here.
I personally don't set any goals in numbers - whether I am cutting or bulking, that's why Alan's concept of target bodyweight is a little unclear to me.
When I started this cut, I had no clue where I was going to end up in terms of bodyweight. I go by the mirror usually, I do use the scale but with the water fluctuations that I am having it's so much mindfuk that I prefer mirror and tape measurements.

For bulking setting numbers ain't bad, but for cutting it is a terrible idea IMO due to a lot of people not being realistic in telling themselves how my fat they're carrying and how long it will truly take. If they do set a goal, they go into retarded caloric deficits and lose LBM.


Hi, I usually lurk this thread. Anyways I respect many of the posters here and I wanted some advice on whether I should "bulk", "cut", or "recomp". I am currently 160 lbs about 12-14% body fat. Thanks for any advice :)

How long is a piece of string?

You gotta be more detailed man.


Do you have pictures?

Exactly, it would help


not right now but can post later if you would still be willing to help! My bed time is approaching ;)


Sure, you can PM if you want, good night.

Alrighto she's got it taken care of lol


Parking was $20.00....

Was definitely worth.
Met the pros and biddies.
Made useful acquaintances.
MAD supplement stash (see log).

Next time!

Hmm, kinda sad I missed out on the huge amounts of PP samples :(

[Shazriki]

Why are you correlating creatine use to fat gains? They have nothing to do with each other bro. And agreed on the fat:muscle gain ratio. The fat gain sure as hell outweighs any trace amounts of fat if bulked slowly and carefully.




You misunderstood slightly, what I meant to say was that a portion of the 10 lbs I've gained can be attributed additional glycogen uptake due to creatine, the implication being that I would probably have gained less in the 3.5 month timeframe had I not initiated creatine supplementation.

[Cumulonimbus]

: )



you're dead to me FYI


wut?: )


lol you're so fast! idk sht happens when u party naked.

Lol I'm lost!


LOOOOL

Yeah, I miss Paul, I ate a poptart today in his honor LOL.

Poptarts, best processed food! I wish Canada carried the LF ones, then I could have more :)


:(, and LOL thats awesome, what flavor?


Strawberry, I kinda indulged myself today to be honest, didn't track anything, but I am back on the diet tomorrow, I consider my cut finished and done. so freaking tired of this sh...t.
I have no clue how competitors do it, mad props to them, I'll probably never get into contest conditioning.

Strawberry?! :( I will be honest, that is my least favorite flavor! Out of the fruit flavors, strawberry milkshake and blueberry are the best!

And dieting is obviously brutal, however, get your ass on stage!


hell ya best fruit flavor hands down lol. def good to do every once in a while, I actually didnt either today. Was out most of the day so just ballparked it all haha.

and are u kidding? you have done amazing work and are already insanely lean. If you actually picked out a contest and had that date set, no question you would walk on that stage shredded as fk. Dont short change your accomplishment like that thats BS; Fk whatever has u saying F-it right now, get back on tomorrow and keep going until u hit that goal of competition condition u set for yourself. Seriously, take a deep breath, look at some old pictures, then look in the mirror, and get your mind back into it. You will know how they do it soon OK :)! seriously, FK that bs

Solid words


Thanks, man. I thought next year, but now I doubt it. Too much mindfuk for me.
I'll see. Good that I didn't jump into it like the other girls and decided to see how it's like first LOL. When I diet, I start feeling bad and can't do anything, like constant brain fogs, and I have a child that needs my attention.

And lol that we both didn't diet today, that's just awesome. :D

Brainfog was really bad for me. Plus I was in low digit %'s during the winter, so it was extremely tough haha


:( that sucks, but I know what u mean. Thankfully I havnt had to get very low this round yet but ya I got pretty bad on the last one. and who knows, maybe a little break is all u need and if u decide to actually do one in the future it could be much easier the next time :). And ya I understand the child thing, I have a little boy myself. He will be 1 in 5 days :)!!

LOL ya thats hilarious! well I gotta get to bed haha, talk to u tomorrow I'm sure!

I think with her reversing slowly she can get the mindset back and hop on stage feeling comfortable. My 2 cents


Cumul I'm burning 1.8/min sleeping. Is that high?

I think you know the answer and you're just bragging lol. You know how I feel about my low resting burn.

[Cumulonimbus]

Thats the diet talking honey.

I was so sick of dieting for my show but then once I allowed that one day binge post show. I was 110% ready the following monday. Its so strange, its easier to stick to the diet now after allowing myself go crazy. Tbh I enjoy my diet, and well of course low energy and cardio sucks but I want that damn conditioning!

And your also shredded, like jak said, you got contest lean on a "trial." Thats impressive!!

Once ur hormones get back to normal and u the stress leaves, I bet you'll be more than ready mentally/physically to compete next year.

When it got mentally tough for my I literally forced myself out of the house to just go for a walk and get my mind off everything and set priorities and think about my goals hard. It kinda worked since when I got mentally tired, I would get ravenous as hell at those points, and staying in the house didn't help.


notsureifsrs

This x 1000


Thanks for support. Nowhere near shredded though.
I loved honey, lol I am turning into a full-blown cougar, thank you, bodybuilding.com : D: D



Well, have you seen Paul's glutes? (I bet you have, and were mirin hard : D: D)
Mine are nowhere near like Paul's. not even one fifth of that shreddedness. : )

Going to bed.

Paul, I am sorry for posting all this crap today in your log, I would give you all the cookies, cakes and poptarts I have, I am not going to eat any of this crap.

Good night, everybody.
:)

You're leaner than me now, I'd kill to have that graininess that you're holding in your midsection! And how can you call that food crap?! Noo!


I have seen people do this quite often, but never understood it until now. Do you do it this way all the time? Also, are there any other benefits to this method?

You can break parallel and go ATG baby!


Wow, I was uptight yesterday LOL.
Alan said - perfect cut, no need to cut any further, because a lot of women overcut and lose muscle, look unhealthy and stringy.

Oh boy, i can't even imagine what competing bodybuilders go through, if I am having so much mind**** just on a cut. Good that I wrote to Alan, and he calmed me down, only he can do this. :D:D

Mad props to Paul and other guys who compete.

Alan sure as hell gives solid advice. He recommended more CHO :p I think I'm going to chill out at 650g and then up fats... I think

Thank you for the props for competing :) Hopefully my next cut I will pull a Berto and roll in with absolutely no stress (so it seems like for him)


Welp, there you guys have it. Tired as hell, sorry if I missed anything :( I was out all day yesterday and had to take in 4.5k. Apex website was down last night and I wasn't able to get an accurate reading and I am about to upload the data right now. I think it may have no been enough, if not then more ingredients will go towards my cheesecake today! Speaking of cheesecake, props to snrygo for helping me out!

God I was scared I wasn't gonna catch up :p


You misunderstood slightly, what I meant to say was that a portion of the 10 lbs I've gained can be attributed additional glycogen uptake due to creatine, the implication being that I would probably have gained less in the 3.5 month timeframe had I not initiated creatine supplementation.

Ahh I see. Well glycogen still counts as FFM, just that it isn't pure contractile tissue, so it is a positive gain that should be accounted for :)

[juliacheh]

Paul, I appreciate everything, but I am leaner than you??

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xoosGkBROvM/TFl5WqvwipI/AAAAAAAAAJE/anDE3XRmwZY/s1600/not+sure+if+serious.jpg

Objectively you are probably 5-6 bf, I am probably 13-14 (7-8 for men) and still holding some in lower glutes, however most natural females do, if they cut further, as Alan mentioned, they end up looking stringy and unhealthy - kinda anorexic look, saw it many times.

I had no doubt in my mind that Alan would suggest more CHO. He is a very pro CHO guy.

[Cumulonimbus]

Paul, I appreciate everything, but I am leaner than you??

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xoosGkBROvM/TFl5WqvwipI/AAAAAAAAAJE/anDE3XRmwZY/s1600/not+sure+if+serious.jpg

Objectively you are probably 5-6 bf, I am probably 13-14 (7-8 for men) and still holding some in lower glutes, however most natural females do, if they cut further, as Alan mentioned, they end up looking stringy and unhealthy - kinda anorexic look, saw it many times.

I had no doubt in my mind that Alan would suggest more CHO. He is a very pro CHO guy.

I honestly believe so. It may just be the genetic structure of my abs though that make it deceiving for me.

Totally agree with what Alan said, many females over-diet and come on stage stringy and flat, and at times actually making them appear at a higher BF% then they truly are due to not filling out.

And yeah, CHO is fun! I'm curious as to what Allgen has to say in terms of macros, for the most part he will say "it doesn't matter, just get calls in from either fat or carbs" But I remember him saying he was up at like 800-900g a day at one point, and he uses PB2 so I think I know the answer ;)

Anyways some fat ass pics cause I felt like a narcissistic fukc today at the gym *no ego just felt good*

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1835.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1836.jpg

lol@my face, I can never keep a normal face when posing for ****ty cellphone BB pics

Plans for today:
Find springform pan
Make cheesecake
Update log
Get beer
Finish essay
Get drunk
Eat

[hankst]

Looking swole there.
What size is your T-shirt?

(no homo, of course)

[Cumulonimbus]

IDK let me check...

M, however it is larger than most of my other M size tees. I am starting to fill out last years clothes, so that's good.

*Yes I walked over to the other room to check*

[hankst]

Cool.
My M-shirts don't fit me as well, they're a bit too big. And S-shirts look like I stole them out of my little sister's closet. Something in between would be awesome :D.

(or I'll just bulk the **** up. Yep.)

[Cumulonimbus]

Bulk!

And where the fukc is my springform pan?! My mom isn't on skype and IDK where she placed it, gahhh! BRB calling long distance to EU.

[hankst]

Bulk!

And where the fukc is my springform pan?! My mom isn't on skype and IDK where she placed it, gahhh! BRB calling long distance to EU.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/5847512735_49ff18795a_z.jpg

Cheesecake envy, officer?
> 3 lbs!
'twas a glorious breakfast.

[juliacheh]

Paul, you look awesome!

<8

will trade my abs for your glutes :D

[jaklcrow]

Wow, I was uptight yesterday LOL.
Alan said - perfect cut, no need to cut any further, because a lot of women overcut and lose muscle, look unhealthy and stringy.


it happens LOL. and I agree, you have made it very low already



Thanks for the videos man, so you and Spank are going to uni for acting?

Damn sounds like you guys got big plans! I'll see where my modelling takes me with the new agency :)


- np, and I graduated already back in Feb. actually. But I just went for film production actually lol. Found out I wanted to act accidentally because an actor backed out of my film last min so I jumped in haha.

- hell ya man. and good luck with it man!


Lol I'm lost!

lol

Strawberry?! :( I will be honest, that is my least favorite flavor! Out of the fruit flavors, strawberry milkshake and blueberry are the best!

Solid words

I think with her reversing slowly she can get the mindset back and hop on stage feeling comfortable. My 2 cents


- thats crazy talk! Blueberry is def awesome though, one of 2 flavs I have atm. Havnt tried the milkshake though. I def DO NOT recommend Hot Fudge Sundae, pretty underwhelming lol

- thanks
- agreed

[jaklcrow]

[im
Cheesecake envy, officer?
> 3 lbs!
'twas a glorious breakfast.

LOL it totally took me like 10 seconds to realize that this wasnt a pizza. WHY ARE PEANUTS ON THIS PIZZA???? O nvm... lol

[Jenslyn17]

Lookin' bigger!!

Great forarm vascularity for a natural imo. I envy that. I always had pretty bad vascularity (relative to my BF ofc), wish I could do something about it...

[b3b0p]

Solid action with the reverse.

As for the modelling, sorry to hear man. That's why I'm getting calls and auditions I guess, because of my great portfolio and leanness :p

They wanted to use me as a replacement for teenagers in clothing ads. After a few weeks of being in shape they wanted, I couldn't take it anymore, my mind was going crazy and I felt emaciated like never before. I was not healthy and it just spiraled down from there.


Wow, I was uptight yesterday LOL.
Alan said - perfect cut, no need to cut any further, because a lot of women overcut and lose muscle, look unhealthy and stringy.

Oh boy, i can't even imagine what competing bodybuilders go through, if I am having so much mind**** just on a cut. Good that I wrote to Alan, and he calmed me down, only he can do this. :D:D

Mad props to Paul and other guys who compete.

This. HUGE props to Paul and the other guys who get in that kind of shape. People underestimate how difficult it really is.

When I was trying to get leaner for a modeling gig, it totally warped my mind. It got near depression levels for me. None of my friends or family noticed, but I sure as hell did. I went about it in the wrong way though, so it was worse than it should or could have been. I'm seeking out advice if I ever do it again.

[b3b0p]

Poptarts, best processed food! I wish Canada carried the LF ones, then I could have more :)





Strawberry?! :( I will be honest, that is my least favorite flavor! Out of the fruit flavors, strawberry milkshake and blueberry are the best!


I picked up the Ice Cream Sandwich Pop Tart's. Not bad, I think I still would say Brown Sugar and Cinnamon are the best. I use half a box + protein shake + pint of milk for post workout anabolism now (not all the time of course). Feels good man.

I think the low fat ones taste like tar. I don't know why would want them. Nasty stuff.

[Jenslyn17]

When I was trying to get leaner for a modeling gig, it totally warped my mind. It got near depression levels for me. None of my friends or family noticed, but I sure as hell did. I went about it in the wrong way though, so it was worse than it should or could have been. I'm seeking out advice if I ever do it again.

Why do you suppose it's so much harder staying at, say, 5 % than 8? Your metabolism shouldn't be that much slower. I'm not arguing that it isn't, just wondering why. Is it the hormones telling you to eat, eat, eat? :)

[Phrak]

Ate 1535g of carbs yesterday. Successful day was successful. Where do you where your bb? I tried it on the long head of the tricep yesterday, seem to report low readings.

[Phrak]

Why do you suppose it's so much harder staying at, say, 5 % than 8? Your metabolism shouldn't be that much slower. I'm not arguing that it isn't, just wondering why. Is it the hormones telling you to eat, eat, eat? :)

Hormonal response. The body tries to maintain homeostasis and well when you get to 5% you are really getting down to the essential for life %. Your body is going to be going nuts trying to get some BF on.

[jaklcrow]

Ate 1535g of carbs yesterday. Successful day was successful. Where do you where your bb? I tried it on the long head of the tricep yesterday, seem to report low readings.

thats so awesome! and I where mine in the middle of the heads generally

[snrygo]

Cumul I'm burning 1.8/min sleeping. Is that high?
jelly snrygo is jelly



Anyways some fat ass pics cause I felt like a narcissistic fukc today at the gym *no ego just felt good*


lol@my face, I can never keep a normal face when posing for ****ty cellphone BB pics

Plans for today:
Find springform pan
Make cheesecake
Update log
Get beer
Finish essay
Get drunk
Eat whole cheesecake
fixed :p




Cheesecake envy, officer?
> 3 lbs!
'twas a glorious breakfast.
the cheesecake competition is on! I made mine last night and weighed in at 3.5lbs qithout the pastry cream as a topping. if i were to weigh it with thte topping, i'm guessing 4lbs.
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7107/imgp3022.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/806/imgp3022.jpg/)

great cheesecake turnout BTW. pics of inside?
waiting for Paul's....

[hankst]

Snyrgo:
Now the question is - did you eat the whole thing at once?
I did, for breakfast. :D

[NVious]

Hey bro, I just wanna say that you're a big time inspiration for me. People say that I'm dedicated cuz I count my cals and wear a BB, but I just laugh and say damn you should see this homie that I know of. I wish I would've had the knowledge you have now at your age, you're going to go far (srs).

[juliacheh]

j

great cheesecake turnout BTW. pics of inside?
waiting for Paul's....

Damn, this looks good, I wanna adopt snrygo...

[Shazriki]

Ahh I see. Well glycogen still counts as FFM, just that it isn't pure contractile tissue, so it is a positive gain that should be accounted for :)

Hehe fair enough, I guess I only count the musclez :p

Oh and this has become "Cheesecakes Eating Now"? I'll play:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1680/p1020375y.jpg

[snrygo]

Snyrgo:
Now the question is - did you eat the whole thing at once?
I did, for breakfast. :D
:( not this time. I had already had a big pasta lunch yesterday so no room left in macros... only 2 slices were eaten


Damn, this looks good, I wanna adopt snrygo...
hmmm, maybe i could market myself as some starving african child or sumthin...

butsrsly, the cheesecake comes out to about 14p/19c/4.5f per 1/8 cake inclding the crust but not the topping. it's about an extra 50 cals of fat/pro for that


ITT: a bunch of cheesecakes and not much about the trainee :p

[b3b0p]

Cumul I'm burning 1.8/min sleeping. Is that high?

I'm almost 100 lbs less then you and my Bodymedia Fit it looks like a pretty consistent 1.1.

feelsbadman.

[b3b0p]

Why do you suppose it's so much harder staying at, say, 5 % than 8? Your metabolism shouldn't be that much slower. I'm not arguing that it isn't, just wondering why. Is it the hormones telling you to eat, eat, eat? :)

Well, I'm guessing getting there is much harder than actually maintaining it.

To get there you have to be eating a deficit. Which sucks balls and is always difficult, mentally and physically. It's just much easier I have noticed to keep a deficit when you have more excess to get rid of.

When already lean eating a deficit seems to me to be much more difficult.

Maintaining it I have no clue, but I'm only guessing. Martin from Leangains claims to maintain a 5.5% rather easily: http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

At one point, I was a a bit leaner than I am now. It kind of went away as soon as I went ape **** on the ice cream when I learned about the whole macros thing and reading Paul's log, and your posts. Yeah, no self control here :) If I'm having something like that, I'm having the whole damn thing, I don't have the self control you and Paul have. Well, I could, but I choose not too. I just learned to fit it in once in a while and feel good about it now. No more OCD or being anal about this ****.

Edit: I thought you were Julia for a moment, your avatars at quick glance are similar.

[Cumulonimbus]

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/5847512735_49ff18795a_z.jpg[img]

Cheesecake envy, officer?
> 3 lbs!
'twas a glorious breakfast.

3lbs, damn! Mine was pretty heavy, it is currently in the oven :D Cannot wait till it is done baking and chilled!


Paul, you look awesome!

<8

will trade my abs for your glutes :D

Thank you, and I am always down for the trade off, I wear shorts so glutes don't matter, you on the other hand as a female.. :)


it happens LOL. and I agree, you have made it very low already



- np, and I graduated already back in Feb. actually. But I just went for film production actually lol. Found out I wanted to act accidentally because an actor backed out of my film last min so I jumped in haha.

- hell ya man. and good luck with it man!



- thats crazy talk! Blueberry is def awesome though, one of 2 flavs I have atm. Havnt tried the milkshake though. I def DO NOT recommend Hot Fudge Sundae, pretty underwhelming lol

- thanks
- agreed

-Agreed, she has made amazing progress with her cut.. as a warm up!
-Everyone here is going to school for film and acting EXCEPT for me. amidoinitrong?
-Thanks :)
-Fukc man, America has so much awesome food that Canada doesn't. I wish we had it half of the stuff.


LOL it totally took me like 10 seconds to realize that this wasnt a pizza. WHY ARE PEANUTS ON THIS PIZZA???? O nvm... lol

I thought the same! :p


Lookin' bigger!!

Great forarm vascularity for a natural imo. I envy that. I always had pretty bad vascularity (relative to my BF ofc), wish I could do something about it...

Thanks bro! WRT forearm vascularity, I is mainly genetics and BF%, I don't think drugs have much involvement. Unless we're speaking of full out DNP clen and winny and like -1000% BF lol


They wanted to use me as a replacement for teenagers in clothing ads. After a few weeks of being in shape they wanted, I couldn't take it anymore, my mind was going crazy and I felt emaciated like never before. I was not healthy and it just spiraled down from there.



This. HUGE props to Paul and the other guys who get in that kind of shape. People underestimate how difficult it really is.

When I was trying to get leaner for a modeling gig, it totally warped my mind. It got near depression levels for me. None of my friends or family noticed, but I sure as hell did. I went about it in the wrong way though, so it was worse than it should or could have been. I'm seeking out advice if I ever do it again.


Sorry to hear that it didn't work out. That is why set-point is a critical role in maintaining a physique and sustaining it for stuff like a photoshoot/modelling season. A ton of people in the modelling industry really have no clue (like most BB'ers actually) as to what they're doing with terrible dieting and training. Hell man watch Super Slim Me on youtube, those females are PHUCKED.


I picked up the Ice Cream Sandwich Pop Tart's. Not bad, I think I still would say Brown Sugar and Cinnamon are the best. I use half a box + protein shake + pint of milk for post workout anabolism now (not all the time of course). Feels good man.

I think the low fat ones taste like tar. I don't know why would want them. Nasty stuff.

Dude, send some poptarts, we only have 7 flavors... :(


Why do you suppose it's so much harder staying at, say, 5 % than 8? Your metabolism shouldn't be that much slower. I'm not arguing that it isn't, just wondering why. Is it the hormones telling you to eat, eat, eat? :)

Homeostasis. If you're really below set-point it can be a total mindphuck


Ate 1535g of carbs yesterday. Successful day was successful. Where do you where your bb? I tried it on the long head of the tricep yesterday, seem to report low readings.

Holy crap, you're making me look bad! I'm eating 625g a day.. you're eating almost triple my amount LOL

[b3b0p]

Dude, send some poptarts, we only have 7 flavors... :(

I can send a couple pics of the choices we have here and send some if you want. Not a problem, just pay the shipping and such.

[Cumulonimbus]

Hormonal response. The body tries to maintain homeostasis and well when you get to 5% you are really getting down to the essential for life %. Your body is going to be going nuts trying to get some BF on.

Right on, set-point is a make or break sort-of-deal when it comes to maintaining low BF%'s

I wear mine on the very back of my arm on the tricep, about 1.5 inches blow my rear delt.


thats so awesome! and I where mine in the middle of the heads generally

Strong spelling for both of you guys :p


jelly snrygo is jelly


fixed : p


the cheesecake competition is on! I made mine last night and weighed in at 3.5lbs qithout the pastry cream as a topping. if i were to weigh it with thte topping, i'm guessing 4lbs.
[IMG]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7107/imgp3022.jpg[IMG] (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/806/imgp3022.jpg/)

great cheesecake turnout BTW. pics of inside?
waiting for Paul's....

I am jelly too. I wonder if the BB bases resting cal burn on the info you put in, or throw all the sensors. A buddy of mine is like 150lbs, about 135-140lbs LBM yet burns 1.8 at rest, wtf lol

I will try to take "good" pictures of my "good" cheesecake haha

And yes, all of it will be eaten in one meal :) Currently cooling


Snyrgo:
Now the question is - did you eat the whole thing at once?
I did, for breakfast. : D

If anything I will leave 1 slice for later in the day :p


Hey bro, I just wanna say that you're a big time inspiration for me. People say that I'm dedicated cuz I count my cals and wear a BB, but I just laugh and say damn you should see this homie that I know of. I wish I would've had the knowledge you have now at your age, you're going to go far (srs).

:) It's comments like these that make me realize that I have in fact made great progress. I guess every time I always look at myself and say that I am selling myself short or that my progress has been bad. At times I just gotta be real and compare myself to the average population in terms of fitness, consistency, dedication, motivation and constant push for seeking more knowledge.

Thanks for the words bro, made brew some real tea.


Damn, this looks good, I wanna adopt snrygo...

He's going to be my step brother!


Hehe fair enough, I guess I only count the musclez :p

Oh and this has become "Cheesecakes Eating Now"? I'll play:

[img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1680/p1020375y.jpg[img]

The fruit cheesecake face off! Mine is blueberry :)


: ( not this time. I had already had a big pasta lunch yesterday so no room left in macros... only 2 slices were eaten


hmmm, maybe i could market myself as some starving african child or sumthin...

butsrsly, the cheesecake comes out to about 14p/19c/4.5f per 1/8 cake inclding the crust but not the topping. it's about an extra 50 cals of fat/pro for that


ITT: a bunch of cheesecakes and not much about the trainee :p

IIT: moar cheesecake.

Mine came out to 155/225/50 P/C/F


I'm almost 100 lbs less then you and my Bodymedia Fit it looks like a pretty consistent 1.1.

feelsbadman.

Yeah dude my resting calorie burn sucks!


Well, I'm guessing getting there is much harder than actually maintaining it.

To get there you have to be eating a deficit. Which sucks balls and is always difficult, mentally and physically. It's just much easier I have noticed to keep a deficit when you have more excess to get rid of.

When already lean eating a deficit seems to me to be much more difficult.

Maintaining it I have no clue, but I'm only guessing. Martin from Leangains claims to maintain a 5.5% rather easily: http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

At one point, I was a a bit leaner than I am now. It kind of went away as soon as I went ape **** on the ice cream when I learned about the whole macros thing and reading Paul's log, and your posts. Yeah, no self control here :) If I'm having something like that, I'm having the whole damn thing, I don't have the self control you and Paul have. Well, I could, but I choose not too. I just learned to fit it in once in a while and feel good about it now. No more OCD or being anal about this ****.

Edit: I thought you were Julia for a moment, your avatars at quick glance are similar.

I'm assuming Martin has a very low set-point, lucky fukcer. However I don't see a reason to maintain, unless you mean bulk while keeping BF levels pretty low.

As for self control, just picture the final product and the positives that will be produced. Risk:benefit ratio is a good example.

[ispankmidgets]

Ate 1535g of carbs yesterday. Successful day was successful. Where do you where your bb? I tried it on the long head of the tricep yesterday, seem to report low readings.

Jesus.


=
-Agreed, she has made amazing progress with her cut.. as a warm up!
-Everyone here is going to school for film and acting EXCEPT for me. amidoinitrong?
-Thanks :)
-Fukc man, America has so much awesome food that Canada doesn't. I wish we had it half of the stuff.

- She's ripped for sure. Julia -- stop the self-doubting. You look amazing.
- Do whatever you like/interests you. I was originally going to go for film, but then decided to the univ as undecided. Finally decided business might be the "safer" route. Well, two years later I didn't get accepted into the business school, but its actually a good thing because during the process I learned that I really do love film production and acting and thats what I want to do.
- For sure. That's why we're all fatasses down here in America.

[Cumulonimbus]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1840.jpg

There is the cheesecake and beverage for tonight

So much traffic I can't even update lol :)

I tried to make a cool design, I failed lololol

[ispankmidgets]

Hey bro, I just wanna say that you're a big time inspiration for me. People say that I'm dedicated cuz I count my cals and wear a BB, but I just laugh and say damn you should see this homie that I know of. I wish I would've had the knowledge you have now at your age, you're going to go far (srs).

Dude I agree. Paul, ever since I discovered your log I've adopted the IIFYM approach, started tracking intake on fitday, bought a scale, and now wear a BMF. I've learned a sh*t ton from the past 90 pages, so thanks man. Huge inspiration.

[snrygo]

There is the cheesecake and beverage for tonight

So much traffic I can't even update lol
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7415/boratgreatsuccess450x33.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/boratgreatsuccess450x33.jpg/)



great job man! looks delish

edit: First on cheesecake replies

[hankst]

[IM.G]http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1840.jpg[/IMG]

There is the cheesecake and beverage for tonight

So much traffic I can't even update lol :)

I tried to make a cool design, I failed lololol

Fruit? You fancy son of a bitch!
:D
Looking good.

[InfinityBeyond]

Dude, send some poptarts, we only have 7 flavors...

In the UK we only have 2.
We also only have 11 flavours of Ben & Jerry's too.
Kinda sucks over here in the ol' Great Britain.

[Cumulonimbus]

Friday

Legs

Leg Press
6ppsx12
6ppsx12
6ppsx12

Front squat
185x10
185x11
185x11

Walking Lunges
60x10

Occluded Leg extension
135x15
135x15

Standing Hamstring Curl
90x15
90x15

Seated Calves
1pps+25x15
1pps+25x15
1pps+25x15

Standing Calves
45x15
45x15

Nutrition
250/625/90

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June17.png

Expenditure
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/BodybuggJune17.png

The Eats
Apple & Cinnamon Oats, Veggie omelet
Waffles, ham, banana, PB&Co CRS, cinnamon popcorn
Banana plavored pancakes topped with banana, PB&co WCW, banana, WF chocolate and pancake syrup, chicken
Sludge, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Honey Nut Chex, Chocolate Chip poptart
Veggie omelet, Breyers Creme Brulee, Apple and Cinnamon Cheerios

Extras
Loved this workout. Felt extremely smooth and aggressive - oxymoron-ish haha. Great intensity and ROM. Perhaps my badass taste of music

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[NVious]

:) It's comments like these that make me realize that I have in fact made great progress. I guess every time I always look at myself and say that I am selling myself short or that my progress has been bad. At times I just gotta be real and compare myself to the average population in terms of fitness, consistency, dedication, motivation and constant push for seeking more knowledge.

Thanks for the words bro, made brew some real tea.





Np brah, I think at times we can be our own worst critic. I know all my friends are like "fuarkk bro you're jacked as ****" or stuff along the lines of that and I usually just laugh and think of somebody I seen on here or another site and I just say "nah not even close." I guess it's good in a sense though because it keeps you humble. Keep smashing it!

[jaklcrow]

-Agreed, she has made amazing progress with her cut.. as a warm up!
-Everyone here is going to school for film and acting EXCEPT for me. amidoinitrong?
-Thanks :)
-Fukc man, America has so much awesome food that Canada doesn't. I wish we had it half of the stuff.

I thought the same! :p


- seriously
- LOL very wrong
- NP
- haha, well if it makes u feel any better I'm in a small ass town where its hard to find a lot of stuff I love

- LOL



Strong spelling for both of you guys :p


- LMAO I literally typed it out diff ways like 4 times then said F it ile go with what he said haha. I fail hardcore at spelling lol

[Cumulonimbus]

I made sweet tender love to that cheesecake.

[jaklcrow]

I made sweet tender love to that cheesecake.

In for results on cals burned during cheesecake sex

[Cumulonimbus]

I am planning on making another cheesecake soon, 250/400/100 srs

Gimmie ideas!

[silly_sally808]

I made sweet tender love to that cheesecake.

I hope that was all for you.


What was the drink btw? Looks kinda like a bottle of Chardonnay.

[hankst]

I made sweet tender love to that cheesecake.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9305/americanpiehumping.jpg

Sucking @ MS paint since 1987.

[TheNaturalOak]

ZOMG Paul ur entire cheese cake macros fit my exact diet macros for today lol.

Also, thanks for the great advice of "Forcing yourself out of the house when ur getting mindfukd" Tried it today, and well.... it was nice! **repped**

Curious if u you have links/article u recommend for dieting/nutrition? I really am over stressing about my diet but I want Saran Wrap skin!

Not only that I cant imagine bulking after these last 3 weeks because I still feel like a fatass :(

*sigh*

[Cumulonimbus]

Jesus.



- She's ripped for sure. Julia -- stop the self-doubting. You look amazing.
- Do whatever you like/interests you. I was originally going to go for film, but then decided to the univ as undecided. Finally decided business might be the "safer" route. Well, two years later I didn't get accepted into the business school, but its actually a good thing because during the process I learned that I really do love film production and acting and thats what I want to do.
- For sure. That's why we're all fatasses down here in America.

-She sure is, but every BB'er is self-doubting, including myself
-Well it looks like you made the right choice and everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg
-When I go down there I will make America skinny again, one citizen at a time... by stealing their CHO :D


Dude I agree. Paul, ever since I discovered your log I've adopted the IIFYM approach, started tracking intake on fitday, bought a scale, and now wear a BMF. I've learned a sh*t ton from the past 90 pages, so thanks man. Huge inspiration.

Again, more smiles:) I never knew this log would inspire people and impact them that much. feelsgoodmayne.jpg


http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7415/boratgreatsuccess450x33.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/boratgreatsuccess450x33.jpg/)



great job man! looks delish

edit: First on cheesecake replies

Was very good!!


Fruit? You fancy son of a bitch!
:D
Looking good.

Hell yeah, I am thinking of doing this next week

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/philadelphia-chocolate-vanilla-swirl-cheesecake/detail.aspx

Or a Reese Cup cheese cake.

This one was a warm, a successful warm up... kind like Julia's situation!


In the UK we only have 2.
We also only have 11 flavours of Ben & Jerry's too.
Kinda sucks over here in the ol' Great Britain.

Eh, you guys have better flavors for BnJ's than we do!


Np brah, I think at times we can be our own worst critic. I know all my friends are like "fuarkk bro you're jacked as ****" or stuff along the lines of that and I usually just laugh and think of somebody I seen on here or another site and I just say "nah not even close." I guess it's good in a sense though because it keeps you humble. Keep smashing it!

I'm the same, I always get complimented by friends but never think to myself "damn, it paid off" but rather "meh comments from people who don't train, I can do a hell lot more/be like that dude"

Right on, keep killing it as well!


- seriously
- LOL very wrong
- NP
- haha, well if it makes u feel any better I'm in a small ass town where its hard to find a lot of stuff I love

- LOL



- LMAO I literally typed it out diff ways like 4 times then said F it ile go with what he said haha. I fail hardcore at spelling lol

Just recently my local grocer has gotten PB&Co and WF syrups, yes!


In for results on cals burned during cheesecake sex

About tree fiddy an hour

[PM12345]

-
Just recently my local grocer has gotten PB&Co and WF syrups, yes!


Metro? ;)

[juliacheh]

He's going to be my step brother!


I have other plans for you. :D You will be an "au pair for Eugene", OK?;)



- She's ripped for sure. Julia -- stop the self-doubting. You look amazing.


Thanks, I appreciate it. But that's the way I am. I always doubted myself, but I still keep going. Very stubborn too...
And I agree about Paul, he helped a lot of people here.

Paul, that cheesecake looks gorgeous, do want. :)

[Cumulonimbus]

I hope that was all for you.


What was the drink btw? Looks kinda like a bottle of Chardonnay.

colio estate vineyard vidal :)


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9305/americanpiehumping.jpg

Sucking @ MS paint since 1987.

LOL

I smashed it hard!


ZOMG Paul ur entire cheese cake macros fit my exact diet macros for today lol.

Also, thanks for the great advice of "Forcing yourself out of the house when ur getting mindfukd" Tried it today, and well.... it was nice! **repped**

Curious if u you have links/article u recommend for dieting/nutrition? I really am over stressing about my diet but I want Saran Wrap skin!

Not only that I cant imagine bulking after these last 3 weeks because I still feel like a fatass :(

*sigh*

In a week or two I will make a cheesecake to fit my entire macros :)

Yeah man taking a walk REALLY helps and gives you time to think about everything without all the distractions

In terms of reading, I'm a pubmed and JAP phaggot so those two for sure, article wise I recommend www.bodyrecomposition.com, www.alanaragon.com AARR and www.leangains.com - I don't IF but the studies and articles there are great.

Eh man, I leaned out reversing, and so did Berto and he is doing it again starting this week :)

[juliacheh]

Eh man, I leaned out reversing, and so did Berto and he is doing it again starting this week :)

Maybe I will still lean out some more...That would be so freaking awesome.
Not really hoping, but I am so like you and Berto in metabolism that there is a tiny chance:)

[Phrak]

Sick looking cheese cake!

Ill have to make some when i have a kitchen. House is under renovation right now, so everything gets cooked on the BBQ, and prepared on fold away tables...

[ErickStevens]

As Blood Runs Black is fuking sweet.

[b3b0p]

I'm assuming Martin has a very low set-point, lucky fukcer. However I don't see a reason to maintain, unless you mean bulk while keeping BF levels pretty low.

As for self control, just picture the final product and the positives that will be produced. Risk:benefit ratio is a good example.

No clue, but if you look / read his transformation, he was once a fatty.

http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

and he talks about set point and leptin here:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/03/intermittent-fasting-set-point-and.html

Both very fascinating, you should give them a read. He backs all his stuff up with science and such.

[TheNaturalOak]

Maybe I will still lean out some more...That would be so freaking awesome.
Not really hoping, but I am so like you and Berto in metabolism that there is a tiny chance:)

Lets both keep our fingers crossed :D

I think I have a chance of this too as my last bulk consisted of fast food 2x's a day lmao

[thebankcard]

Metro? ;)

I doubt it that place is for the rich lol :p

[ian0789]

Hey Paul I have a question for you in regards to how you train. How is your over all recovery when hitting your Saturday workout and then getting back in the gym Monday hitting upper?

Or is Saturday used as a condition day for weak area's to target a bit more?

I have been running Upper/Lower Upper/Lower now for a really long time it seems. I have been thinking of switching it up and running a Hypertrophy Training Program (Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Layne_Norton%27s_Power/Hypertrophy_Routine)

[Cumulonimbus]

Saturday

Shoulders/Arms

HS Shoulder Press
2ppsx10,9.9

DB side Laterals
30x10,10
25x12 slowww

Machine side laterals
70x10,10

Bent over reverse DB Flys
15x15,15,15

Weighted Dips
75x10,10

Incline DB Skullcrusher
30x10
35x8,8

Single arm pushdown
15x15,15

BB Curl
80x12,12

Machine Preacher Curl
95x15
110x12

Cable Hammer Curl
45x10,10

Decline Weighted Crunches
10x,12,12,12

Nutrition
250/625/100

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June18.png
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/June181.png

Expenditure
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/BodybuggJune18.png

The Eats
Pumpkin oats, Veggie omelet
Rye bread with cheese, deli meat and veggies, caramel popcorn
Blueberry bagel, Cinnamon Raisin Bagel with PB&Co CRS/WCW, banana and WF chocolate and caramel spread, Apple cinnamon rice cake, caramel rice cake, chicken
Chocolate Fudge Sludge, Honey Nut Chex, Reese Puffs, Chocolate Cheerios, S'mores poptart
Breyers Creme Brulee, Breyers French vanilla, HD Coffee, blueberries and failed chocolate banana protein fluff so I microwaved it to make a "brownie" :(

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1826.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1827.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1837.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee425/PaulMura/IMG_1838.jpg

Extras
Enjoyable workout but I was in quite a rush since I had plans to go out afterwards. Got some shopping done and picked up some sweet shorts :-P

Derp was short on cals since bodybugg website was down :/

Caught up today

[Cumulonimbus]

Metro? ; )

Yup!


I have other plans for you. :D You will be an "au pair for Eugene", OK?; )



Thanks, I appreciate it. But that's the way I am. I always doubted myself, but I still keep going. Very stubborn too...
And I agree about Paul, he helped a lot of people here.

Paul, that cheesecake looks gorgeous, do want. :)

No, snrygo is MINE!

Glad that I have helped others in the community. I am part srs at times and part notsrs/trollin.. most of them time haha

The cheesecake was great! It was a warm up, like your dieting :)


Maybe I will still lean out some more...That would be so freaking awesome.
Not really hoping, but I am so like you and Berto in metabolism that there is a tiny chance:)

I honestly never expected to lean out with the increase kcals. It was cool :D


Sick looking cheese cake!

Ill have to make some when i have a kitchen. House is under renovation right now, so everything gets cooked on the BBQ, and prepared on fold away tables...

Thanks man! I'm trying to get creative as of late! Muffins soon :p


As Blood Runs Black is fuking sweet.

Hell yeah, Elysia is good shi too


No clue, but if you look / read his transformation, he was once a fatty.

http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

and he talks about set point and leptin here:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/03/intermittent-fasting-set-point-and.html

Both very fascinating, you should give them a read. He backs all his stuff up with science and such.

I've read those studies before reading this articles lols


Lets both keep our fingers crossed :D

I think I have a chance of this too as my last bulk consisted of fast food 2x's a day lmao

I will be upping my cals next prep at about 6 weeks out


I doubt it that place is for the rich lol :p

Nah he's actually right.


Hey Paul I have a question for you in regards to how you train. How is your over all recovery when hitting your Saturday workout and then getting back in the gym Monday hitting upper?

Or is Saturday used as a condition day for weak area's to target a bit more?

I have been running Upper/Lower Upper/Lower now for a really long time it seems. I have been thinking of switching it up and running a Hypertrophy Training Program (Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Layne_Norton%27s_Power/Hypertrophy_Routine)

No issues with recovery from Saturday to Monday. I may be SLIGHTLY sore but that isn't really related to recovery, and it doesn't drop performance personally.

Saturday isn't really a "conditioning" day, it's mainly a higher repetition/hypertrophy day. My split is essentially PHAT with WSB ME days and incorporating some DE/RE into the 3 hyp. days. I find the PHAT to be too heavy in volume.

[ananf72]

I made sweet tender love to that cheesecake.


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9305/americanpiehumping.jpg

Sucking @ MS paint since 1987.

I kinda hope you get that cheesecake pregnant.

Actually like the design on it. It's like a grateful dead cheesecake.

[jaklcrow]

Just recently my local grocer has gotten PB&Co and WF syrups, yes!

About tree fiddy an hour

- fukn a!
- lolz

[juliacheh]

- fukn a!
- lolz

I love your responses :D

[jaklcrow]

I love your responses :D

Thank u, they are all meticulously hand crafted :p

[juliacheh]

Thank u, they are all meticulously hand crafted :p

I need to take a course from you. I learned a lot of interesting things on bb.com. many of them not even related to bodybuilding LOL.

[HunterCML]

The eats are missing a protein fluff.

[zhall616]

The eats are missing a protein fluff.

it's the brownie looking thing. he said th protein fluff failed so he nuked it lol

[jaklcrow]

I need to take a course from you. I learned a lot of interesting things on bb.com. many of them not even related to bodybuilding LOL.

I am just going to need a 5 page essay and 2 non relative references and we can see about getting you onboard for my next one.

[HunterCML]

it's the brownie looking thing. he said th protein fluff failed so he nuked it lol

Rofl. I was unaware! Sorry about seeing that, Paul. :( Maybe next time, champ. Looks like a chocolate omelette to me.

[BrennanHockey]

Hey, sorry for bothering you but I have a question about my chest/arms day. I do 3 exercises for chest, then 3 for bi's, then 3 for tri's then 3 sets of flyes to finish my workout. Is this counterproductive? Should I place the flyes before my bi/tri exercises?

[YCHR]

Paul, if you have the time, check this out. You've probably heard about him already but in this specific video, from 6:50 onward, there's things he mentions that make me wonder what your opinion on them are. youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mQ-QZkZpk&feature=player_embedded#at=411

[viridian]

How did I miss all the cheesecake??

Killer guys!

And... do we have to request bi-monthly noodz or something??

Wheres the progress??
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3455571&stc=1&d=1308557403

[Cumulonimbus]

I kinda hope you get that cheesecake pregnant.

Actually like the design on it. It's like a grateful dead cheesecake.

Dead cheesecake, what?! :(

My next creation will be more "alive" :D


- fukn a!
- lolz


I love your responses :D


Thank u, they are all meticulously hand crafted :p


I need to take a course from you. I learned a lot of interesting things on bb.com. many of them not even related to bodybuilding LOL.

Hahaha, you learn the most irrelevant things on a forum that is most relevant to you.


The eats are missing a protein fluff.


it's the brownie looking thing. he said th protein fluff failed so he nuked it lol


Rofl. I was unaware! Sorry about seeing that, Paul. :( Maybe next time, champ. Looks like a chocolate omelette to me.

Yeah man I was sad, Dymatize XT fudge doesn't fluff :(


I am just going to need a 5 page essay and 2 non relative references and we can see about getting you onboard for my next one.

Lol are you proposing to write the official non relative nutrition forum hand book?


Hey, sorry for bothering you but I have a question about my chest/arms day. I do 3 exercises for chest, then 3 for bi's, then 3 for tri's then 3 sets of flyes to finish my workout. Is this counterproductive? Should I place the flyes before my bi/tri exercises?

Well I don't really see this as being counter productive with your arm workout however it may be if you have too much volume in your chest workout. What other workouts are you training for chest that day, and what is the set/rep range and are you hitting complete failure?


Paul, if you have the time, check this out. You've probably heard about him already but in this specific video, from 6:50 onward, there's things he mentions that make me wonder what your opinion on them are. youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mQ-QZkZpk&feature=player_embedded#at=411

berstare.jpg

LOLOLOL

Keto section ----->


How did I miss all the cheesecake??

Killer guys!

And... do we have to request bi-monthly noodz or something??

Wheres the progress??
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3455571&stc=1&d=1308557403

The cheesecake was awesome! Next time I'll making making something grand!

As for the pics, fukc I've been busy as balls. Need a bit of free time to take the noodz

[Phrak]

Holy crap, you're making me look bad! I'm eating 625g a day.. you're eating almost triple my amount LOL

Tis what happens when i get lazy and was out of dead animal to eat. All i ate was a few loaves of cinnamon rasisn bread and jam. It was a fail nutrition day at best.

Also my inner nerd is going to come out. Had to go buy a Nintendo 3DS and Zelda:OOT. So much win there.

[jaklcrow]

Hahaha, you learn the most irrelevant things on a forum that is most relevant to you.

Lol are you proposing to write the official non relative nutrition forum hand book?


- LOL who would have thunk it
- I'm on the 5th chapter already

[Phrak]

- LOL who would have thunk it
- I'm on the 5th chapter already

Got a working title?

[hankst]

Ya, grateful dead like tie dye design. I like it! Please tell me you are old enough to know who the grateful dead is!

Stinkin' hippies!

Paul, I noticed you seem to actually have a taste of music (which, in my book, is defined by not listening to Usher), which is seldom with today's teens.
Do you know Darkest Hour? Can't stop listening to their latest album, it's amazing.

m06ayCYCIJQ
(Holy cheesy video, Batman!)

Fb5t4w0K1Ds

[juliacheh]

hankst, when are you going to start a log??

[hankst]

hankst, when are you going to start a log??

Translation "woman to allspeak": "gtfo with your crappy music and diary entries" :D


Soon, I guess. I have now one full week with the bodymedia armband, and some data to share, but I'm a bit anxious about the whole "half naked pictures on the internet"-thing, and a log without nudes is only half the fun, don't you agree?

[Phrak]

Translation "woman to allspeak": "gtfo with your crappy music and diary entries" :D


Soon, I guess. I have now one full week with the bodymedia armband, and some data to share, but I'm a bit anxious about the whole "half naked pictures on the internet"-thing, and a log without nudes is only half the fun, don't you agree?

Just use your awesome MS Paint skills to make yourself look like an IFBB pro.

[juliacheh]

Translation "woman to allspeak": "gtfo with your crappy music and diary entries" :D


Soon, I guess. I have now one full week with the bodymedia armband, and some data to share, but I'm a bit anxious about the whole "half naked pictures on the internet"-thing, and a log without nudes is only half the fun, don't you agree?

No, I enjoy everything you post:) I am kinda adding up to clutter here myself, I hope Paul forgives me. I promise him cookies and other tasty stuff :)

And yeah, log without the nudes is only galf fun, you are right. Hope Paul posts some soon. :D

[hankst]

Just use your awesome MS Paint skills to make yourself look like an IFBB pro.

Oh, no, it's not that I'm self conscious about my looks, I'm more or less at peace with my body.
It's just the fact that once you get something on the internet, it's impossible to get it out again. And half naked pics of myself posing in underpants with my face visible is definitely something I don't want to float around, especially when I'll start applying for jobs sooner rather than later.

And cropping my pretty face out of the pictures is not an option. I'm too handsome to be hidden! :p

[Phrak]

Oh, no, it's not that I'm self conscious about my looks, I'm more or less at peace with my body.
It's just the fact that once you get something on the internet, it's impossible to get it out again. And half naked pics of myself posing in underpants with my face visible is definitely something I don't want to float around, especially when I'll start applying for jobs sooner rather than later.

And cropping my pretty face out of the pictures is not an option. I'm too handsome to be hidden! :p

Lol! This is the exact reason I dont use facebook or let my friends take pictures of me. Must fly under the radar as much as possible these days.

Ill start my log back up when i can get some decent food porn going and maybe some cool gym shots/movies. But just a text log is boring and people dont stick around.

[InfinityBeyond]

I need to start making food like that cheesecake.
Could you please share where you found the recipe, or how you made it?
It looks amazing man.
I haven't got much money though, so also... was it expensive to make?

Love your log so damn much. Haven't had much in the way someone to look up to as inspiration until now. Thanks man.

[jaklcrow]

Got a working title?

I always start out naming all of my writing the same thing and just add a # to the end until it is finished. So we will continue the tradition with The Greatest Thing Ever Written #45

and Fkng in on the good music subthread
AWggPLXeOkU&feature

[hankst]

Unexpected, what a positive surprise!
Saw them live two times, can only remember one concert, was too drunk at the other (festival).. but I bet they were great at both occasions.


http://youtu.be/Sno86b4lb4U

Now that is about just as classy as our stuff. :D

[ananf72]

I always start out naming all of my writing the same thing and just add a # to the end until it is finished. So we will continue the tradition with The Greatest Thing Ever Written #45

and Fkng in on the good music subthread
AWggPLXeOkU&feature

Love that song! reps

(for the record... I can't stand the grateful dead... I just like the effects on the cheesecake)
:)

[ananf72]

Unexpected, what a positive surprise!
Saw them live two times, can only remember one concert, was too drunk at the other (festival).. but I bet they were great at both occasions.



Now that is about just as classy as our stuff. :D

Thanks! pretty awful huh?

[HunterCML]

I can perfectly hit my macros by eating a whole Layne cheesecake, 7 twinkies and a PB omelette. Seeking advice and council from the cumfromsomanycarbs man.





lol.

[Cumulonimbus]

Strong OT.

@hunter egg whites pb and fruit or sf/ff pudding helps :)

[HunterCML]

Lol edited it. I meant I can perfectly hit my macros with it. luls.

Brb eating PB omelettes, twinkies and whole cheesecakes everyday.

[jaklcrow]

Love that song! reps



Major points for loving this sht! repps back on recharge :)

[juliacheh]

I am lost at what's going on in here. :D

[Cumulonimbus]

I am lost at what's going on in here. :D

Me too :/