Please Evaluate My Reverse Diet/Nutrient Timing

[henkejo]

So I did my first show: 1st place in my class, bantamweight, weighing in at a whopping 135.5lbs! Ha, and I still didn't have shredded glutes :/. I had an absolute blast! Dang was that fun! Thanks to anyone who commented in my last thread and gave advice. I really appreciated that as prepping for a contest by yourself is extremely stressful, especially being my first. It was an NPC show, so most of the guys there were juiced and dehydrated. I felt like an outcast at the prejudging meeting eating a Jimmy John's sandwich and drinking a 20oz water. It worked out though!

Anyway, this is my first time going into an offseason and I would like to do it the right way. I'm not really looking for advice on my macros but rather my nutrient timing. Am I eating at the right times or could I be doing something more effective?

Macros: (178p/195.5c/45f)

730am: (28/21/9) carbs low-mid GI
945am: 5g BCAA + (2.5/13.5/1.5) carbs mid GI
1230pm: (34/6/17) carbs as bi-products
230pm: 5g BCAA + (2.5/13.5/1.5) carbs mid GI
530pm (pre-wo): (37/54/6) carbs low GI
630pm (immediate before wo): 5g BCAA
8pm (immediate post-wo): 10g BCAA + (18/28.5/2) protein from whey & carbs in form of dextrose
845pm: (30/34/2.5) carbs low GI
11pm: 5g BCAA + (2/22/4.5) carbs mid GI
2am: (24/3/1) protein from casein

[bwelch1985]

Huge congrats man! First place in your first show...I'm guessing you're gonna be hooked for life now! ha ha

The numbers look good to me...although I don't know what you were dieting on, so that's just a guess...but they're not crazy in any way so just hitting them consistently will undoubtedly result in a very successful reverse diet (especially compared to what the average competitor does:eek:)

As far as the nutrient timing, meal frequency, concern w/ GI....IMO you're wasting your efforts and energy. Just hit your numbers for the day. Eat the foods you enjoy, when you want to eat them and let bodybuilding enhance your life, rather than have such a drastic impact on it. I mean, all those meals, w/ all those specifications does not look like a healthy way to go about your offseason (again IMO).

[Slovation]

Huge congrats man! First place in your first show...I'm guessing you're gonna be hooked for life now! ha ha

The numbers look good to me...although I don't know what you were dieting on, so that's just a guess...but they're not crazy in any way so just hitting them consistently will undoubtedly result in a very successful reverse diet (especially compared to what the average competitor does:eek:)

As far as the nutrient timing, meal frequency, concern w/ GI....IMO you're wasting your efforts and energy. Just hit your numbers for the day. Eat the foods you enjoy, when you want to eat them and let bodybuilding enhance your life, rather than have such a drastic impact on it. I mean, all those meals, w/ all those specifications does not look like a healthy way to go about your offseason (again IMO).

Couldnt have really said it better. My last show was 2 1/2 weeks ago. After dieting for so long you get stuck in this mindset and become very detail oriented. My strategy was to hit my macros but be more lax about it. Im no longer weighing slices of bread, protein powder, condiments, etc. I feel it makes the transition a little easier to get back to "normal." You dont want to become an obsessive year round bodybuilder do you? You might have different goals than I do but this is a hobby for me and not a career. I still want to make great gains but also have a life outside of competing as well. Go out once in a while and have a meal at a restaraunt. Bring cals back up slowly and just keep an eye on the scale and try not to stress too much. Im about 2.5-3lbs over my lightest contest weight but cals are up. Most importantly, enjoy yourself.

[Cumulonimbus]

Huge congrats man! First place in your first show...I'm guessing you're gonna be hooked for life now! ha ha

The numbers look good to me...although I don't know what you were dieting on, so that's just a guess...but they're not crazy in any way so just hitting them consistently will undoubtedly result in a very successful reverse diet (especially compared to what the average competitor does:eek:)

As far as the nutrient timing, meal frequency, concern w/ GI....IMO you're wasting your efforts and energy. Just hit your numbers for the day. Eat the foods you enjoy, when you want to eat them and let bodybuilding enhance your life, rather than have such a drastic impact on it. I mean, all those meals, w/ all those specifications does not look like a healthy way to go about your offseason (again IMO).

This. Grats on the reverse, but chill out with the timing man, totally unnecessary and it's just splitting hairs.

[henkejo]

This. Grats on the reverse, but chill out with the timing man, totally unnecessary and it's just splitting hairs.

Okay, so maybe I am taking things a little too serious and should relax a bit. Last night I went to my grandma's for dinner. I ate 4oz chicken and two whole wheat flatbreads (27/32/5). I then proceeded to eat one of her home-made chocolate chip cookies. Then I ate another.. and another.. and another and before I knew it I had eaten 12 cookies! I felt horrible about myself but I couldn't bring myself to stop. Finally, I skulled about 40oz of water and just sat my ass on the couch. After about 45 minutes I felt an extreme rush of energy. I took my BCAAs and went off to the gym. I proceeded to have the best workout of my life- the pump, vascularity, and energy were insane. The energy high lasted the entire duration of my hour and 15 minute workout.

I'm so confused- I thought the sugar would make me crash but the energy lasted. What was the cause? Should I reconsider my pre-workout meal and introduce some fast digesting carbs? I understand that the pump and vascualrity were a result of those carbs, and I could care less about that. It was the energy and focus. Usually I do 4oz of chicken and 1 cup of oatmeal.