Carnage & Cordygen 5 The ultimate endurance stack?

[DS Looney]

Today I received my Millennium Sports Technology Package and I must say I am really excited to get started. These supplement seem to be tailored to suit my type of training to a T. High intensity/ High Endurance. I would like to thank Spaceclown and Matt for the opportunity to test these products.
I will be running a High intensity training routine focusing on muscular endurance, cardio endurance, and muscular strength. I will be sticking to a higher strict rep range 10-15+, but some days I do like to lift a little heavy. I plan on using this stack for the recommended 40 days and will be basing final results on a comparison to my rep max using 135 lbs on bench, squats, and deadlifts at the begining of stack and my 135 lb rep max in those same exersizes at end of the stack. I will also be looking at how much time I can drop off a 2 mile run.
I will be trying to log on a daily basis and will be including my thoughts on the supplement effects, workouts for the day, and diet.
I am planning on starting this stack on Feb. 6, 2007. I am currently finishing a cutting cycle on Monday using Fyre which I have been logging: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1048101


Background:
I was allways lean (skinny) when I was in High School 1992-1996. When I graduated I weighed about 160 and had maybe 14% bf. I enlisted in the Army out of High School and became serious with physical training. Lots of running, calisthenics and lifting weights. Its the Army what do you exspect. That was from 1997-2001. My weight was around 175 and maybe 14% bf. After my enlistment I left active duty but stayed in the Army Reserves and went to college. I got very serious with weight lifting during this time and got away from running and cardio. I thought I had run enough in the Army to last a lifetime. This was between 2001-2005. I weighed 215 lbs and I was at maybe 16% bf. Within the last few years I got a full time desk job and got away from living healthy. I gained a little weight and got out of shape until I decided Enough!!! So on January 1, 2007 I decided to get back on track. I am just coming off a 30 day high intensity lift routine with lots of cardio. On this stack I am keeping my routine very similar to the first 30 days (High Intensity/ High Reps + Cardio) but I am coming off the Fyre and starting Carnage and Cordygen 5.

Other Supplements:
Whey Protien
Multi Vitamin
BCAA
Fish Oil

[SPACECLOWN]

Subscribed :D

[DinoT1985]

Subbed! You're testing the same stack as me. If you havent used C5 before, you're going to love it and BA has great research behind it.

[DS Looney]

Today I set the standard on my bench press, squats, and dead lifts.

Bench Press:
135x30
Squats:
135x25
Dead Lift:
135x20

These are my rep maxes that I will be comparing to at the end of the stack.

I am going to be starting the stack in a few days. I finished my fat burning supplement today and want to give my body a few days before starting Carnage and Cordygen 5.

[SPACECLOWN]

Drop your cocks and grab your socks its logging time!
Alright Sarge kick some ass! I am real curious how your endurance improves on this combination.

[Random907]

I hope you take a quantitative approach towards your cardiovascular activities. I want to know how much longer you are running whilie on this stack, as well as any other positive effects(lactic acid, cramps, etc.)

[DS Looney]

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I am starting the stack tommorow and I can't wait! Just in time too tommorow is 4 mile run day in the A.M. and back & traps in the P.M. I plan on pushing myself as hard as I can each training session so lets see what this Carnage Stack is all about!!!

[SPACECLOWN]

Take the 3 Cordygen about 45 minutes before the run. This seemed to be about what most people have found to be best.

[airborne_g]

Nothing scarier than a DS! I am always looking for products to help me out on the APFT.. subscribed to this thread!

Good luck DS! What unit/mos?

[Millennium 1]

Wow, where have I been? Subbed! Great start to your log.

C5 45-60 minutes pre endurance/workout/cardio seems to be best for most like SC mentioned.

[DS Looney]

Thoughts
Today was day 1 of the Carnage Cordygen 5 stack. I woke up and ran a few miles after taking 3 Carnage and a Codygen 5. The run felt really good. I was able to keep a pretty fast pace without running out of gas. This is especially good since I did a pretty intense leg workout last night. Usually my legs are super tight after leg day but not to bad today. Not to sure how much the new supplements contributed.
Took 3 more carnage and a Cordygen 5 and did a high volume back workout this evening. Workout felt ok. I was definately feeling stiff during cardio warm up from leg day yesterday. Did not feel any major effects from the new supplements.

Workout 1
3.5 mile run

Workout 2
Cardio:
25 min bike
Back:
3x8 Pull Ups
4x12 Lat Pull Down
4x15 Cable Row
4x12 Bent Over row
4x10 High Pull
3x10 Soulder Shrugs
50 Crunches
50 Leg Raises

[SPACECLOWN]

You should notice that during your runs your breathing (oxygen utilization) is much easier. Eventually you'll notice your legs tire before your breath. Its pretty freakin sweet.

[DS Looney]

Thoughts

Had class this morning so I only did my evening workout. Took my Carnage and Cordygen5 in the A.M. and before my evening workout.
Tonight I hit 40 min of cardio and a high volume arm workout. The cardio went about the same as usual. Legs were feeling a little tight. My ogygen utilization was ok. The arm workout went really well. I was able to knock out alot of reps and still felt good at the end. I would say maybe a slight increase in recovery between sets.

Workout
Cardio:
20min bike
20min run
Arms
4x12 EZ Bar Curl
4x12 Close Grip BP
4x12 DB Curls
4x12 Tricep Rope Press
3x10 DB Preacher Curl
3x10 Dips

[SPACECLOWN]

Keep it up

[DS Looney]

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Thoughts:
I have not logged in a few days but here is a catch up post. I took the weekend off from lifting but have been consistant with cardio. I think that my runs are starting to get a little better on the stack. I still need to increase my pace but I am doing some sprint/walk intervals to improve speed.

Friday
Off day
3 Carnage and 1 Cordygen 5 in the A.M.
3 Carnage and 1 Cordygen 5 in the P.M.


Saturday
Ran 3 miles. Run felt o.k. I pushed the pace pretty good.
3 Carnage and 1 Cordygen 5 30 min before run
3 Carnage and1 Cordygen 5 in the P.M.

Sunday
Ran a slow 2 miles (pacing someone for their PT test)
3 Carnage and 1 Cordygen 5 30 min before run
3 Carnage and 1 Cordygen 5 in the P.M.

[DS Looney]

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Thoughts:
This morning I went on a realy long run and lifted chest and shoulders in the evening. My air felt really good on the run. Legs were not wanting to keep a really fast pace throughout. I did speed intervals the last mile. The evening workout felt ok. I had a decent intensity. So far I do not think the stack is contributing a whole lot to my lifting routine. I do think my areobic endurance is increasing though. I have not felt any side effects from supplements.

Workout 1
Cardio
4.5 mile run with sprint intervals last mile

Workout 2
Cardio
Bike 10 min
Chest and Shoulders
4x11 Bench Press
4x10 Incline Bench Press
4x10 Cable Cross Overs
4x10 Dumb Bell Flys
4x12 Military Press
3x12 Dumb Bell Lateral Raises
3x12 Dumb Bell Front Raises
3x12 Dumb Bell Rear Raises

[SPACECLOWN]

For me the C5/Carnage is excellent for endurance. C5 in the gym allows me to decrease rest times but not necessarily lift heavier. Carnage also is going to help with endurance and you should see some strength increases as well. Keep up the good work Sarge.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I did an intense 20 min run followed by 20 min of push ups, sit ups, and calisthenics. I pushed the pace on the run and kept my heart rate up during calisthenics. I guess it felt ok as far as cardio goes. Tonight is leg night I am planning on doing a intense high volume workout to try to build my leg endurance up. I am thinking that I may want to up my dosage slightly in the near future. I am 210 lbs so the recommended dosage may be slightly low for me. Spaceclown you can comment on that if you read this post. If I do increase dosage though I am not sure if I will have enough to run the full 40 days.

Workout 1:
Cardio
20 min run
20 min Push-ups, Sit-ups, Calisthenics

Workout 2:
Cardio
10 min elliptical warm up
Legs
4x12 Squats
4x12 Dead Lifts
4x12 Leg Press
Superset
3x12 Leg Curls
3x12 Reverse Leg Curls
4x15 Calf Raises

[BIG F@CE]

this is the stack i wanted to see a log on....subscrizzled for sho ;)

[Millennium 1]

Instead of upping the dosage try taking all three Cordygen5 60 minutes pror to your run. I think you'll notice a big difference.

[DS Looney]

I am going to be taking Millennium 1's advice and taking my full dosage of Cordygen5 in the A.M. before cardio. I am going to stick to doing my intense cardio in the A.M. and most of my lifting in the P.M. After this log is complete I may look at taking Carnage/Cordygen5 in A.M. before Cardio and Ragnarok/Citruvol in the P.M. before lifting. I think this could be the best all around cardio/lifting stack.

[Random907]

Are you seeing more than marginal effects?

[SPACECLOWN]

As Mill 1 said a single full dosage of C5 is recommended. I take it 45 minutes pre but others take it 60 min. Just play around to find the sweet spot for you. Rok/Citruvol is a great stack and you can tear up some **** in the gym.

[DS Looney]

Millennium and Spaceclown... What would you say is a better stack for intense weight lifting and resistance training. Ragnarok/Citruvol or Kreacaps/Citruvol. It seems like the Rok might have a slight advantage over the Krecaps with its added ingredients. But the caps seem like they may have their place to. Please feel free to comment on the two stacks. Us loggers would appreciate your oppinion.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
This morning I took the full dosage of C5 and Carnage 45 min before cardio. I believe Millennium 1 and Space Clown were right. This time I think I could feel more of a difference. I am going to stick to taking dosage all in the A.M. before cardio. In the evening when I lift I am going to maybe start using a NO product with creatine. I think the Carnage and Cordygen5 are best to use before long cardio sessions and that they are not as good as other products for intense lifting.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
40 min elliptical (Last night was leg night so I did not run today)

Workout 2:
Cardio
15 min bike warm up
Back and Traps
4x12 T Bar Row
4x12 Lat Pull Down
4x10 Bent Over Row
4x12 High Pull
4x12 Shoulder Shrugs

[SPACECLOWN]

Really I think its dependant on your personal needs.

Ragnarok is a complete all in one, caffeinated, powder based product.
Kreaceps is a pill based, non-stimulant product that allows your own flexibilty to add other ingredients. Citruvol and Carnage can be stacked with both.

[DinoT1985]

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THOUGHTS:
This morning I took the full dosage of C5 and Carnage 45 min before cardio. I believe Millennium 1 and Space Clown were right. This time I think I could feel more of a difference. I am going to stick to taking dosage all in the A.M. before cardio. In the evening when I lift I am going to maybe start using a NO product with creatine. I think the Carnage and Cordygen5 are best to use before long cardio sessions and that they are not as good as other products for intense lifting.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
40 min elliptical (Last night was leg night so I did not run today)

Workout 2:
Cardio
15 min bike warm up
Back and Traps
4x12 T Bar Row
4x12 Lat Pull Down
4x10 Bent Over Row
4x12 High Pull
4x12 Shoulder Shrugs


Glad you could feel the C5. Love it when it works for others because its my favourite and I enjoy seeing it get credit where its due :D

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I took my dosage of C5 and Carnage and did a 5 mile road march in the A.M. and hit an intense arm workout in the P.M. I have discovered a awsome new workout that I tried tonight. It is a MMA workout created by Ken Yasuda that I modified. Go to: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kenyasuda.htm for details. It is based on giant sets with high reps. Example:
Barbell Curls 30 reps
Barbell Presses 30 reps
Bent over rows 30 reps
Barbell Curls 30 reps
Barbell Presses 30 reps
Bent over rows 30 reps
*No rest between exercises
*Rest for 1 minute and repeat.
I have altered it and am repeating 2 giant sets of the same body part. His routine you would go into another giant set for a different body part. Let me tell you this is a smoker. Maybe not for putting on mass or increasing strength. But definately for cutting and getting in shape. I am going to stick with this type of routine for a little while and see what kind of results I get.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
5 mile road march

Workout 2:
Cardio:
20 min elliptical
Arms:
Barbell Curls 30 reps
Skull Crushers 30 reps
DB Curls 30 Reps
Rest 1 min
Rope Press Down 30 reps
Preacher Curls 30 reps
Tricep Kick Back 30 reps
Rest 1 min
Repeat 2 more times

[DinoT1985]

that looks like a real endurance builder there DS. Good luck with it!

[SPACECLOWN]

Definately brutal looking WO. We have had some MMA fighters train similar to this using Cordygen5 with great success.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I took my full dosage of C5 and Carnage and went for a 4 mile run. The run fely really good. Good pace, my air felt good, and I felt like I could have gone forever. I am taking the night off from lifting.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
4 mile run

[SPACECLOWN]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I took my full dosage of C5 and Carnage and went for a 4 mile run. The run fely really good. Good pace, my air felt good, and I felt like I could have gone forever. I am taking the night off from lifting.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
4 mile run

That's what I am talking about!

[Millennium 1]

That's more like it. Have a good night off.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Saturday I just went on a really good run. Really good pace. Felt good. Sunday I did another high volume arm workout. I am reserving Sundays for workout of choice and I felt like my arms needed the attention so I hit them. So overall it was a pretty good weekend.

Saturday
Workout
Cardio
5 mile run

Sunday
Workout
Arms
Giant Set 1
30 reps EZ Curls
30 reps Skull Crushers
30 reps Military Press
*rest 1 min and repeat 3 times
Giant Set 2
30 reps DB Curls
30 reps Tricep Press
30 reps Lateral raises
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times
Superset 3
30 reps Cable Curls
30 reps Rope Press Down
*rest 1 min prepeat 3 times

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I woke up feeling not quite 100%. Not sick or anything just felt a little off. I took my C5 and Carnage and 20 min later went for a 2.5 mile run. I should have waited 45 minutes instead of 20 before running but I was pressed for time. Anyway after that run I do believe it takes the stack at least 45 min to kick in. My wind felt ok on the run but my legs felt dead. Also, this evening I was kinda dragging butt. Motivation to go lift was not quite there. So I decided to take the sample of Ragnarok and Citruvol that Millennium sent to see if would help get me going. BAM!!! that stuff hit me like a freight train. I went from 0 to 100 m.p.h. The caffine jolt was just what I needed. It was almost a little to much. Well I ended up having a great workout.


Workout 1:
Cardio
2.5 mile run


Workout 2:
Cardio:
20 min Bike
Chest and Back
Super Set 1
30 reps T-Bar Row
30 reps Incline DB Bench Press
*rest 1 min and repeat 4 times
Giant Set 2
30 reps Lat Pull Down
30 reps DB Flys
30 reps Cable Row
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times
Giant Set 3
30 reps Push Ups
30 reps High Pull
30 reps Shoulder Shrugs
*rest 1 min prepeat 3 times

[DinoT1985]

Congrats on lifting up the spirit to train man! Nice workout. Ragnarok definetly gets the blood pumping for a workout. How were the pumps on Citruvol?

[SPACECLOWN]

ROK definately will kick you in the ass! Glad you like it. I agree that I really need a good 30-45 minutes for the C5. You will tire the muscles before the lungs for sure when it kicks in.

[DS Looney]

Citruvol Pumps were really good. I did a super high volume, high intensity, high reps work out so I was going to have good pumps any way but it seems like after the workout the pumps seemed to stick around longer. I think the Creatine in Ragnarok is also to contribute to that.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I hit legs at the gym in the A.M. and an hour of Jiu jitsu in the evening. It has been a while since I have rolled so it felt good to get back on the mat. Leg workout felt ok. I am still doing the MMA type workout comprised of giant sets.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
20 min Treadmill
Legs:
Giant Set 1
30 reps Squats
30 reps Straight Leg Dead Lifts
Walking Lunges
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times
Giant Set 2:
30 reps Leg Curls
30 reps Reverse Leg Curls
30 reps Calf Raises
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

Workout 2
1 hour Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

[SPACECLOWN]

Sounds like another great day.

[DinoT1985]

Your endurance is freaky!

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
I woke up a little stiff from leg workout so I did not do A.M. cardio. I did do 25 min of cardio and a arm workout this evening. I went a little heavier and dropped my reps back down to the 12-15 range. I will start back up with high volume again tommorow.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
25 min Treadmill
Arms:
4x12 Cable Press Down
5x12 Skull Crushers
3x10 dips
4x12 Barbell Curls
4x12 DB Curls
3x10 Preacher Curl
2x50 Sit Ups

[SPACECLOWN]

Doing great Sarge. Keep it rolling.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I started the day with my C5/Carnage dosage and went fo a 3 mile run. Followed by chest and shoulders. I feel slightly over trained with this new high volume routine. I do not mind being a little over trained. My body has to get used to working hard on little or no rest. I am going to have a cardio only day tommorow though. I am going to stick with this routine for probably 1 more week and than go heavy for a couple weeks. Followed up with 2 weeks of 8-10 reps per exersize.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
3 mile run
Chest and Shoulders:
30 reps Bench Press
30 reps Incline Bench Press
30 reps Military Press
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times
(I was smoked after first set so I dropped reps down to 25)
30 reps Lateral DB Rasies
30 reps Rear DB Raises
30 reps Front DB Raises
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times
(I was smoked after first set so I dropped reps down to 25)

[SPACECLOWN]

With that rep range I bet you are feeling a bit like someones kicking you in the love sack. You definately got the drive for sure!

[Millennium 1]

30 reps? Sarge you are crazy! Those are some painful sets. Looks like your endurance is going strong. Great job!

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
This weekend was a fairly sham weekend. The only thing I manged to do was to get out and run 4 miles. I needed the break from the gym. So I spent a lot of time with the fam eating some things I normally don't. I am starting Monday off right though. Run in the A.M. and Legs in the P.M.

Friday
Off
Saturday
4 Mile Run
Sunday
Off

[SPACECLOWN]

Your body probably needed break. Time to get back to work sgt.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Back to the grind!. Took my C5 and Carnage and this morning I had a good 4 mile run. I am half way through my stack and I got to say I am happy with the results so far. I don't think my body is making a huge transformation but I am in great shape for running and high intensity high volume workouts. This is really what I was trying to get out of this so no complaints. I really feel that the stack is beneficial to my runs. I am able to push myself without my legs wanting to tire out.
Tonight I hit a intense high volume leg workout. Felt really good. I pushed myself since I was so fresh from taking a few days off.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
4 mile run

Workout 2:
Cardio:
15 min bike
Legs:
Superset
30 reps Squats
30 reps Dead Lifts
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

3 Sets Walking Lunges

Giant Set
30 reps Hack Squat
30 reps Leg Press
30 reps Leg Curl
30 reps Reverse Leg Curl
*rest 1 min repeat

3x15 Calf Rasises

[Millennium 1]

Ok Sarge, that giant set was sick! Nice session. Do you feel you get your wind back faster with this stack compared to normal in those 1 minute rest periods?

[Docta J]

You should notice that during your runs your breathing (oxygen utilization) is much easier. Eventually you'll notice your legs tire before your breath. Its pretty freakin sweet.

Now that sounds promising! How would this stack work on someone with asthma? I have a mild case of asthma to where I don't really need any inhalers or anything like that, but I can feel it weighing on me when I play sports. I consider myself an athlete and I am always playing sports, so a stack like this could prove to be very beneficial, but I want to be sure first. Has anyone with asthma tested this stack before?

P.S. Don't mean to threadjack, just seemed like it was the best place to ask since a lot of reps check this thread, sorry :)

[SPACECLOWN]

Now that sounds promising! How would this stack work on someone with asthma? I have a mild case of asthma to where I don't really need any inhalers or anything like that, but I can feel it weighing on me when I play sports. I consider myself an athlete and I am always playing sports, so a stack like this could prove to be very beneficial, but I want to be sure first. Has anyone with asthma tested this stack before?

P.S. Don't mean to threadjack, just seemed like it was the best place to ask since a lot of reps check this thread, sorry :)

Actually yes. PM DinoT1985 and he is an extremely helpful guy. He has had great success with Cordygen5 standalone and is now testing this stack. You can hit him up in his log also
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1231301
I think this stack could help immensly being C5 really helps with oxygen utilization.

[DS Looney]

Now that sounds promising! How would this stack work on someone with asthma? I have a mild case of asthma to where I don't really need any inhalers or anything like that, but I can feel it weighing on me when I play sports. I consider myself an athlete and I am always playing sports, so a stack like this could prove to be very beneficial, but I want to be sure first. Has anyone with asthma tested this stack before?

P.S. Don't mean to threadjack, just seemed like it was the best place to ask since a lot of reps check this thread, sorry :)


Honestly I think C5 could be somewhat beneficial with someone with asthma. I am not a doctor but I can tell you how I feel since I have been taking the supplement. I have been able to push myself on my runs as far as pace goes without running out of gas as quick. I find myself not having to really slow down to catch my breath. I can just get in that rythem with my breathing and my stride and go. I don't think C5 or Carnage has any effect on lung capacity or air way which is the main issue with asthma but I think your body may use the air it does receive a little more efficiently.
Someone with more knowledge feel free to correct if wrong.

[DS Looney]

Ok Sarge, that giant set was sick! Nice session. Do you feel you get your wind back faster with this stack compared to normal in those 1 minute rest periods?

Well you know this may sound a little insane but I have really not been getting extremely winded during these giant sets high volume program. When I first started this routine I did feel like I was going to pass out at the end of each set but now I am getting to the point where the muscle is just fatigued and my breath and air are ok. I am able to recover really fast and jump right into it again. I contribute this to a combination of things.
1. I am running 3-5 miles about every other day.
2. My body is getting use to high volume intensity
3. Eating pretty clean and supplementing for recovery
4. Giving the body part enough recovery time before hitting it again.
5. And the C5/Carnage stack is helping me push my cardio sessions
It is pretty basic but really if your cardio fitness is not where it should be high volume is going to kick your butt. You got to have a good lung capacity and aerobic endurance which I feel C5/Carnage benefits. I think Ragnarok/Citruvol could be a more beneficial stack though as far as muscular strength and muscular endurance is concerned.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I did not get to do my A.M. cardio, but did have a sick P.M. back workout. My legs were kinda sore from yesterdays leg workout so missing my run this morning is probably not the worst thing in the world. Tommorow might be a cardio only day and than I am going to kill chest and shoulders on Thurs. I would just like to say there is definately a place for high volume workouts. I think they get over looked because everyone wants to lift heavy but I think sometimes the body needs a change.
Workout:
Cardio
20 min elliptical
Back:
Giant Set 1
30 reps Lat Pull Down
30 reps Cable Row
30 reps Bent Over Row
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

Giant Set 2
30 reps Tbar Row
30 Reps High Pull
30 reps Shoulder Shrugs
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

3x30 Crunches

[DinoT1985]

Definetly agree with high volume. I dont do as many reps as you but I like having a good amount of exercises per muscle. I think most think that they'll over-train if they do high volume, but it depends on the body type and recovery imo.

[SPACECLOWN]

When I cut I do high rep/volume ;)

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Today I had a great chest workout filled with high rep giant sets. I am changing my routine next week and wil be going heavy for about 2 weeks. I will definately be re-visiting this giant set high volume routine in the future. I am however looking forward to pushing some heavy weight around. Especially some heavy legs. I think that is the one area I could use a little more size and strength in.

Workout:
Cardio:
25 min elliptical

Chest and Shoulders:
Giant Set 1
30 reps DB Bench Press
30 reps DB Flys
30 reps Incline DB Press
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

Giant Set 2
30 reps DB Military Press
30 reps DB Lateral Raises
30 reps Db Front Raises
*rest 1 min repeat 3 times

Super Set
30 reps Cable Cross Overs
30 reps Cable Lateral Raises

3x15 Calf Raises

[Docta J]

Actually yes. PM DinoT1985 and he is an extremely helpful guy. He has had great success with Cordygen5 standalone and is now testing this stack. You can hit him up in his log also
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1231301
I think this stack could help immensly being C5 really helps with oxygen utilization.

Honestly I think C5 could be somewhat beneficial with someone with asthma. I am not a doctor but I can tell you how I feel since I have been taking the supplement. I have been able to push myself on my runs as far as pace goes without running out of gas as quick. I find myself not having to really slow down to catch my breath. I can just get in that rythem with my breathing and my stride and go. I don't think C5 or Carnage has any effect on lung capacity or air way which is the main issue with asthma but I think your body may use the air it does receive a little more efficiently.
Someone with more knowledge feel free to correct if wrong.

thanks a lot fellas, I'll definitely be looking into this stack and following along with you DS!

[Millennium 1]

Did I hear "going heavy"? I like the sound of that. Great session once again. Way to go.

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:

Day 24:
I had a good high volume arm workout. It was my last giant set workout for a while I am starting my heavy routine tonight.

Day 25:
Rest

Day 26:
2 mile run

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:

Today was another get back on track day. Did a little cardio over the weekend but went out and drank some good old Kentucky burbon, So needless to say the diet and routine were a little off track. Had a great run this morning after my C5 and Carnage. I tell you this is a great running stack. I just feel like I could run forever. I hit legs heavy tonight. It has been a while since I have gone heavy and it felt really good to really have to push to move some weight. I am doing a 5x5 routine for all my core lifts. I am going to do this type of routine for 2 weeks and than do a pyramid type of routine for 2 weeks. And jump back into a high volume routine.

Workout 1:
Cardio
3 mile run

Workout 2:
Cardio
20 min elliptical
Legs:
5x5 Squats
5x5 Hack Squats
3x10 Leg Curls
5x5 Dead Lifts
3x10 Calf Raises

[SPACECLOWN]

How you holding up DS?

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
I have not ben able to post this week but I can catch up now. My training is still going great and I have finished week 1 of heavy 5x5 training. It definately has me a little sore since I have not pushed heavy weight in a while. But my lifting and cardio are both going really good.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
6 mile road march

Workout 2:
Cardio:
20 min bike
Chest:
5x5 Bench Press
5x5 Incline Bench Press
5x5 Military Press
5x8 Cable Cross Overs
5x5 Lateral Rasies

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Cardio Only today. Good thing cause heavy legs than chest, I need the rest.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
4 mile run

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
HEAVY BACK!!!. Today I went with a heavy back day. Back is something I can just go for days on but I am still not quite where I want to be with my pull ups. Also went for a good 3 mile run.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
3 mile run

Workout 2:
Cardio:
20 min bike
Back:
5x5 Pull Ups
5x5 Lat Pull Down
5x5 Bent Over Row
5x5 T Bar Row
5x5 Cable Row
5x5 High Pulls
3x10 Shoulder Shrugs

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Arms and Sprints. Today I did wind sprints for Cardio this morning and I went with a heavy arm routine this evening. Starting to run low on my Carnage C5 stack. I have 9 days left. But so far I have really got a lot out of these supplements

Workout 1:
Cardio:
35 min wind sprints

Workout 2:
Cardio:
20 min bike
Arms:
5x5 Close grip Bench Press
5x5 Dips
5x5 Overhead French Press
5x8 Tricep Rope Press
5x5 Barbell Curl
5x5 Dumb Bell Curl
5x5 Preacher Curl
5x8 Standing Cable Curls

[DS Looney]

How you holding up DS?

Space Clown I would love to test the new Ragnarok. I am about to go look at the testers needed and post and submit. I loved the sample you guys sent with my Carnage and C5. I am thinking of doing like a ultimate Millenium Stack. Carnage and C5 in the A.M. before Cardio and Stim Free Ragnarok and Citruvol in the P.M. when I lift. What do you think?

[Millennium 1]

I am thinking of doing like a ultimate Millenium Stack. Carnage and C5 in the A.M. before Cardio and Stim Free Ragnarok and Citruvol in the P.M. when I lift. What do you think?

That would be the most effective stack for your training in my opinion sarge. I think you got it all figured out! :D

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Carnage/C5 and Cardio only today. Went for a 4 mile run. Started off at a fast pace and maintained pretty good throughout.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
4 mile run

[SPACECLOWN]

You're a running machine!

[5Six]

Sub'd! Interested as to see how Carnage turns out for you, as compared to me.

And damn, your workouts look pretty crazy.

[DS Looney]

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REST!!!

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Had a good 3 mile run in the morning and went heavy on legs in the evening. Another great workout day.

Workout 1:
Cardio:
3 mile run

Workout 2:
Cardio
20 min tread mill
Legs:
5x5 Squats
5x5 Dead Lifts
5x5 Hack Squat
3x8 Leg Curls
3x8 Leg Extensions
3x10 Calf Raises

[DS Looney]

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THOUGHTS:
Ran for 20 min in the morning. Something I am usually not able to do after a leg day. No DOMS in legs so I ran hills. Evening is heavy chest and shoulders

Workout 1:
Cardio:
25 min hill run

Workout 2:
Cardio
20 min elliptical
Chest and Delts:
5x5 Bench Press
5x5 DB Incline Bench Press
5x5 DB Shoulder Press
3x8 DB Flys
3x8 Lateral Raises

[SPACECLOWN]

Running after leg day :eek: you da man.

[DinoT1985]

Running after leg day :eek: you da man.

This is us
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[SPACECLOWN]

You alive sarge or you out running like a mad man? :D

[DS Looney]

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FINAL REVIEW:

Well I am at the end of my Carnage / C5 journey. I took my last of each supplement today. It has been a great overall experience and I would like to thank Millennium Sport Technologies for the opportunity to test this new product.
My ultimate conclusion is that this stack is a great aerobic and anaerobic supplement. If you check out my training I really put the stuff through the test with cardio and high volume / high intensity workouts. I changed it up at the end and even did some heavy strength training type routines. The effects it had on me was that I was able to really push myself on my runs and in the gym because I was not fatiguing from lack of oxygen. During runs I was able to maintain a fast pace without feeling like I needed to slow down to catch my breath. In the gym I would just do Giant Set after Giant Set of 30 rep + exersizes. Yes the muscle would fatigue but I was not sucking for air like you might think.
I am plan on continuing to use these supplements in the future. I think I will take them in the A.M. before cardio and I might take Ragnarok and maybe Citruvol in The P.M. before lifting. Carnage and C5 I think are more for cardio. But if you are into anything from racket ball to MMA fighting and you would like a supplement for endurance than I would definitely recommend you take a look at these 2 products. If you are just into heavy lifting and cardio is not really your thing I would stick to a Creatine/ NO product. Please feel free to ask me any questions.

[Millennium 1]

Great Log Sarge! Thanks for putting this stack to the test for us. I'm really glad you found it to be beneficial to your training.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance in the future. Stay Strong!

[SPACECLOWN]

Thanks for logging for us Sarge! I am very happy you enjoyed the supps and they worked well for your training. If you happen to run the ROK and log it shoot me a PM with the link. I would love to follow along.