Dropping water weight

[guerra123]

Hi guys first off im not doing this for a BB'ing competition, but i still need to drop it for a weigh in so i figured id post here. How can i drop water relatively fast without being in a sauna with fat suit etc? Also how long could i keep it off? Im wondering because if my weigh in is on a thurs say, would i be able to do it on monday and keep it off or would i have to do it on wed? Thanks in advance

[AustrianOakJr]

Most naturals don't drop water weight......we load water weight. We want our muscle to be hydrated (loaded with glycogen and water). If you want to reduce water weight you need to crank water intake up to about 2 gals a day for several days before the weigh in. Also reduce calorie intake specifically carbs for several days and do a lot of high rep training. Cut the water intake off about 12-18 hrs before your weigh in. Be aware this is not good for athletic performance and you will be flat as a board.

[AustrianOakJr]

U can keep the weight off for as long as your carbs are low. But the water load and cut provides an addional burst of extra water loss that you will have to repeat......several days of increased water then cut it prior to the weigh in.

[iversonmourning]

Most naturals don't drop water weight......we load water weight. We want our muscle to be hydrated (loaded with glycogen and water). If you want to reduce water weight you need to crank water intake up to about 2 gals a day, reduce calorie intake specifically carbs, and do a lot of high rep training. Cut the water intake off about 12-18 hrs before your weigh in. Be aware this is not good for athletic performance and you will be flat as a board.

I need to look into not dropping water for my next show. My trainer always had us dropping water before each show (I have done 2). I never really understood why we had to drop water, and he never really gave us a good reason behind it. I just knew that it sucked for the 2-3 days he had us dropping and especially at the show w no water. Coincidentally everyone looks flat too.

[AustrianOakJr]

I need to look into not dropping water for my next show. My trainer always had us dropping water before each show (I have done 2). I never really understood why we had to drop water, and he never really gave us a good reason behind it. I just knew that it sucked for the 2-3 days he had us dropping and especially at the show w no water. Coincidentally everyone looks flat too.

A lot of trainers follow protocols that were passed down from bodybuilders using anabolics who had to mitigate the estrogenic effects of the drugs which often left them with excess water under the skin. Naturals dont normally have excess water under the skin unless our carb intake is too high or we are too fat (and in the case of the latter, its not water, but we call it that to be nice ;)). In order to keep the muscle full, give the body all the water it needs and then regulate carb intake to achieve max fullness by supercompensating the muscle with glycogen.

http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/carb-up-and-ketogenic-diet.htm

[dennisguy]

is the weigh-in right before the match or day before

[alex a]

your getting good advise by your peers bro.. absorb all you can from more experienced competitors... but keep in mind....get in the best shape possible.. get as lean as you can and your going to look dry...less fat under the skin yields a harder look...

[alex a]

your getting good advise by your peers bro.. absorb all you can from more experienced competitors... but keep in mind....get in the best shape possible.. get as lean as you can and your going to look dry...less fat under the skin yields a harder look... I know its been said a million times but cant be stressed enough...

[guerra123]

Thanks for the replies! Now for my carb intake. What should be a good range 30-40 ish (a few days before the weigh in) and the increased 2 gallons of water? Now if i do this, approx how many lbs do you think id lose?

[iversonmourning]

A lot of trainers follow protocols that were passed down from bodybuilders using anabolics who had to mitigate the estrogenic effects of the drugs which often left them with excess water under the skin. Naturals dont normally have excess water under the skin unless our carb intake is too high or we are too fat (and in the case of the latter, its not water, but we call it that to be nice ;)). In order to keep the muscle full, give the body all the water it needs and then regulate carb intake to achieve max fullness by supercompensating the muscle with glycogen.

http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/carb-up-and-ketogenic-diet.htm

Took a look at that article, so what would the difference be between cutting carbs and reintroducing them in peak week as opposed to say a refeed where you drop fats and make up all those calories in carbs? Is it basically the same concept. I am 9 weeks out of comp this sunday. I have been just doing a cheat meal at 500 cals over maintenance once a week but seeing as how I am going to be 8 weeks out soon I was gonna start doing refeeds.

[AustrianOakJr]

Thanks for the replies! Now for my carb intake. What should be a good range 30-40 ish (a few days before the weigh in) and the increased 2 gallons of water? Now if i do this, approx how many lbs do you think id lose?

There are a number of factors that go into this.....age, weight, metabolism, what were you carbs prior to the cut?, what are you total calories while cutting the carbs..... etc. So its gonna come with some trial and error. I would start increasing water several days before the weigh in and cutting. The smaller your deficit the larger the carb cut will have to be in order to move more water. If you went keto (30-40 carbs) you could keep your deficit pretty small (maybe a 500 cal deficit) and move a good amount of water in 3 days.


Took a look at that article, so what would the difference be between cutting carbs and reintroducing them in peak week as opposed to say a refeed where you drop fats and make up all those calories in carbs? Is it basically the same concept. I am 9 weeks out of comp this sunday. I have been just doing a cheat meal at 500 cals over maintenance once a week but seeing as how I am going to be 8 weeks out soon I was gonna start doing refeeds.

That article is written for a cyclical ketogenic diet, but the numbers apply pretty directly to a bodybuilder at the end of a long prep getting ready to load (because we are usually so depleted). If you are just doing a refeed as opposed to a load for competition, the number of carbs is significantly less. We dont want to completely repack glycogen storage on a refeed. Just give it a healthy boost to keep our metabolism moving. You are best off lowering protein and fat to bare minimum levels.....1g per lb of bodyweight for protein and 15-20% of total cals for fats. Then fill the rest of your diet with carbs to reach just under your maintenance for the day. You should be adding a significant amount of carbs to your diet on your refeed day but protein and fat will be relatively low compared to your normal diet numbers.

[guerra123]

[QUOTE=AustrianOakJr;607236043]There are a number of factors that go into this.....age, weight, metabolism, what were you carbs prior to the cut?, what are you total calories while cutting the carbs..... etc. So its gonna come with some trial and error. I would start increasing water several days before the weigh in and cutting. The smaller your deficit the larger the carb cut will have to be in order to move more water. If you went keto (30-40 carbs) you could keep your deficit pretty small (maybe a 500 cal deficit) and move a good amount of water in 3 days.



Makes sense. I was used to eating about 150-200 carbs a day. im thinking maybe for now i could do 50 a day and see what that does for me. If i dont feel content ill drop 10-20g. Though im kinda weary with the keto diet thing. Ill probably have 30g of fat to start off and fill the rest with protein so i dont lose as much muscle.

[str8flexed]

if you plan to do keto, starting with only 30g of fat is a damn near sure fire way to bomb out your metabolism quick

[guerra123]

If i do keto will i still be able to run long distance? (i know carbs give energy so with low to no carbs it would be very hard would it not?) Ill go with keto i just wana make sure i can run without dieing half way through :P . Also a bit of a silly question, but my whey has creatine in it (how much is beyond me, the container doesnt specify) now can i still lose water while i take it? (since creatine holds water intracellular, im not sure if id be able to rid water thats outside of the muscle while on it. Or if the creatine would drag more in and id see no difference)

[str8flexed]

i really think you need to do some basic reading on nutrition and contest dieting, it will help you out a lot

creatine holds water inside the muscle cell, that is a good thing

[guerra123]

I know, but would i be able to drop my water weight thats not inside the muscle? I just wana know so i know weather to pick up a new whey or keep this one

[str8flexed]

what kind of competition are you doing? is it physique or something that requires you to make weight?

[guerra123]

Not a comp at all. Im actually trying to make weight for military weigh-ins. So in addition to fat loss i was trying to drop water so i get there faster.

[str8flexed]

ok, well the contest prep section probably isn't the best place to ask the question then simply because most people are answering it as it relates to your physique

[guerra123]

Sorry if its the wrong section. I just figured you guys would probably have better info cuz from what i saw on other sections they reccomended the sweat suits. Just wanted to see how the pros did it ;)

[AustrianOakJr]

Sorry if its the wrong section. I just figured you guys would probably have better info cuz from what i saw on other sections they reccomended the sweat suits. Just wanted to see how the pros did it ;)

Thats why I told you my recommendations were simply for dropping water weight. Cutting out carbs (or water of any kind) is not something I would want to do if I had to go run with a drill Sargent yelling in my face. As Layne suggested, you are best off doing some reading on basic nutrition and lose the fat the right way. Get off that keto crap and bring your carbs back in so you can perform. I dont think the military wants a wet noodle of a soldier.....they want someone full of energy and ready to do the job. Get in shape and make weight the right way.

[guerra123]

Thats why I told you my recommendations were simply for dropping water weight. Cutting out carbs (or water of any kind) is not something I would want to do if I had to go run with a drill Sargent yelling in my face. As Layne suggested, you are best off doing some reading on basic nutrition and lose the fat the right way. Get off that keto crap and bring your carbs back in so you can perform. I dont think the military wants a wet noodle of a soldier.....they want someone full of energy and ready to do the job. Get in shape and make weight the right way.


I know and thank you. The weight is only for weigh in. While im awaiting to ship to boot id focus on fat loss and id regain the water, i just wanted to drop the water so i can start the process.

[BigPicNut]

You might not like to hear this, but like with all things, cramming the night before the big tesat does not make up for months worth of ill preperation.
If you really wanted this bad enough, you should have done it right from the begning, or push the date back. Hard lesson learned, but on a small level, what you are doing (so some extent) is cheating.

That being said, go visit a wrestlers forum.
Wrestlers are notorious for cutting weight.
My brother-in-law used to drop 10-12 lbs in less thatn 48 hours (and his weighs less than 160 lbs).
No carbs, rubber suit, bike, in the sauna, diuretics and sodium manipulation..

I would never do that kind of stuff for any reason and don't suggest you do it either.

ANT

[ehalps26]

Hi guys first off im not doing this for a BB'ing competition, but i still need to drop it for a weigh in so i figured id post here. How can i drop water relatively fast without being in a sauna with fat suit etc? Also how long could i keep it off? Im wondering because if my weigh in is on a thurs say, would i be able to do it on monday and keep it off or would i have to do it on wed? Thanks in advance

use a diuretic. xpel by mhp. or take dandelion root by itself and you should lose a few pounds from it

[guerra123]

Kk thx for all the help guys.