anyone elso feel like a total zombie during prep?

[fimblez]

****, only six days in and I literally cant feel any emotion....not interested in doing anything at all

(not keto, about 30% of my cals are from carbs)

how the **** am I gonna last another 11 weeks

not hungry at all during the day whatsoever, and gym lifts are the same(thus far)

[PINO2007]

welcome to contest prep.....no seriously , hang on man things will get better when your body will get used to the new calories intake . Did 3 shows this year and only the last 2-3 weeks were hard to get by , but once you get on stage everything falls in place ;)

[fimblez]

welcome to contest prep.....no seriously , hang on man things will get better when your body will get used to the new calories intake . Did 3 shows this year and only the last 2-3 weeks were hard to get by , but once you get on stage everything falls in place ;)

its hardly my first time cutting lol

but I always feel like this when I cut

plus my willy doesnt work gud wut do i do

[AustrianOakJr]

If you are feeling bad only 6 days in, then your diet is most likely not optimal. Most will tend to feel very lethargic towards the end, but thats just due to bodyfat being very low. When you are in the beginning stages of prep, your bodyfat is relatively high so as long as you have the necessary carbs and fats to feed the ole' furnace, you should be fine. Why dont you post your stats along with your macros and/or typical diet and let us take a look to see if we can help tweak things.

[fimblez]

If you are feeling bad only 6 days in, then your diet is most likely not optimal. Most will tend to feel very lethargic towards the end, but thats just due to bodyfat being very low. When you are in the beginning stages of prep, your bodyfat is relatively high so as long as you have the necessary carbs and fats to feed the ole' furnace, you should be fine. Why dont you post your stats along with your macros and/or typical diet and let us take a look to see if we can help tweak things.


sorry cant post macros

im 5'8 220ish and 10%ish bf at the moment

I was just wondering is there anything else I can do to alleviate this feeling

[Barn01]

The first week is always the worst. I like to think of it as a washout period for getting over your sugar addiction. After the first week I lose the craving for sweets and life get easier.

[fimblez]

The first week is always the worst. I like to think of it as a washout period for getting over your sugar addiction. After the first week I lose the craving for sweets and life get easier.

dont have any cravings, plus even if I do I can fit a bit of chocolate or ice cream inot my macros

the constant heartburn is the worst....antacids only help for an hour or two and I have to take like 5 times the rec dose

[AustrianOakJr]

sorry cant post macros

Ummmm.....why? :confused:



im 5'8 220ish and 10%ish bf at the moment

Wow. You are one huge dude then. Is this an untested show you are doing?....because there arent too many (more like none) 5'8" tall guys that are over 200 lb on the natural stage....

The reason I bring it up is if you are on gear, it could be a hormonal issue....



I was just wondering is there anything else I can do to alleviate this feeling

Well, the problem could be what Barno1 talked about, however I have never experienced a "sugar detox" period before, I suppose its possible. But its most likely that your diet needs to be tweaked.....but you "cant" post your diet.....so......

Oh...yea.....there are those magic pills you take and your whole prep becomes super easy and you feel great the entire time....just take a couple of them. :D

[lth]

The first week is always the worst. I like to think of it as a washout period for getting over your sugar addiction. After the first week I lose the craving for sweets and life get easier.

Def disagree here, like oak said...if the diet is that intolerable at the start then its not optimal imo. I always tend to gradually feel more like sh*t.

Op, diet drinks are your friend...thats all I have for you man

[B-Neva]

the first week or 2 definitely sucks. I remember my first day I woke up went to work and it dawned upon me, "**** I can't eat anything good for 4 months" LOL

[fimblez]

the first week or 2 definitely sucks. I remember my first day I woke up went to work and it dawned upon me, "**** I can't eat anything good for 4 months" LOL

no its not a tested show, and its def not the gear.....

anywho thanks for your input guys

[FemmeFatale28]

Wow.. way to kill your own thread.. slapping down help or any advice/motivation anyone can give... lol I dont understand why you can't post something so generic as macros but anyway.

I too think that the 1st couple weeks of dieting is the worst part. Not that Ive ever been competion lean which I am sure sucks alot more but the beginning sucks too.

[highiso]

Wow.. way to kill your own thread.. slapping down help or any advice/motivation anyone can give... lol I dont understand why you can't post something so generic as macros but anyway.

I too think that the 1st couple weeks of dieting is the worst part. Not that Ive ever been competion lean which I am sure sucks alot more but the beginning sucks too.

Yep really, i was wondering why he couldnt post macros too

[cianoo333]

no its not a tested show, and its def not the gear.....

anywho thanks for your input guys

What show are you doing? Is it in Ireland?

[_jim_]

I went to a pumpkin patch with my wife, daughter and son like a week and a half out. All I remember is just standing in one spot not wanting to walk around because walking like 50 feet was grueling. Fun times.

[ErickStevens]

I had to stop golfing at 6 weeks out because it took too much out of me. lol

[highiso]

I went to a pumpkin patch with my wife, daughter and son like a week and a half out. All I remember is just standing in one spot not wanting to walk around because walking like 50 feet was grueling. Fun times.

How do you possibly go to the gym and lift when u feel like this? Just wondering. I never plan on getting to 3% bf, just wonder how u guys still train when ur so depleted

[Withoutreason]

****, only six days in and I literally cant feel any emotion....not interested in doing anything at all

(not keto, about 30% of my cals are from carbs)

how the **** am I gonna last another 11 weeks

not hungry at all during the day whatsoever, and gym lifts are the same(thus far)

Sounds like you're doing just fine

[_jim_]

How do you possibly go to the gym and lift when u feel like this? Just wondering. I never plan on getting to 3% bf, just wonder how u guys still train when ur so depleted

And I go to the gym at 5 am LOL. A good pre-workout supp, good music, and plenty of motivation. Nothing was going to stop me from achieving my goal.

[fimblez]

And I go to the gym at 5 am LOL. A good pre-workout supp, good music, and plenty of motivation. Nothing was going to stop me from achieving my goal.

damn 3%? did you still feel like crap carbed up? lowest iv ever been was six point something

[_jim_]

damn 3%? did you still feel like crap carbed up? lowest iv ever been was six point something

I was never 3%, not sure where I was at. I felt great, almost euphoric, once I started carbing up.

[AustrianOakJr]

How do you possibly go to the gym and lift when u feel like this? Just wondering. I never plan on getting to 3% bf, just wonder how u guys still train when ur so depleted

When you get lean and depleted at the end of prep, 90% of your day is zombie land......but thats the beauty of training.......the carbs beforehand ;). Even 30 or 40g of carbs just prior to training is enough to wake you for the short burst.


Wow.. way to kill your own thread.. slapping down help or any advice/motivation anyone can give... lol I dont understand why you can't post something so generic as macros but anyway

He has found "THE" top secret ratio. ;) So secret that the nutrients are weighed down to the milligram.

[mrusa85]

Cycle your carbs. Since macros can't be posted for some reason, try eating a lot of carbs one day, a few the next day, and then zero the following day. Then repeat the cycle. Keep your protein high all the time. You'll feel much better than going with a just a few carbs every day. If you can't handle it, then just skip the show. Pretty simple. Life's too short to be miserable. Maybe a prep diet is not for you right now. Try again some other time.

[FemmeFatale28]

He has found "THE" top secret ratio. ;) So secret that the nutrients are weighed down to the milligram.

Suddenly. It all makes sense :)

[fimblez]

He has found "THE" top secret ratio. ;) So secret that the nutrients are weighed down to the milligram.

im not "slapping away" motivation and advice....wtf

my trainer wont allow me to say my macros or training, i honestly dont know why but havent the nerve to ask him

i just wanted to know if their is anything non-diet-training I can do to feel better....nvm i guess

[_jim_]

He has found "THE" top secret ratio. ;) So secret that the nutrients are weighed down to the milligram.

ppssshhh...i have a secret scale that measures to the nanogram.

[bwelch1985]

im not "slapping away" motivation and advice....wtf

my trainer wont allow me to say my macros or training, i honestly dont know why but havent the nerve to ask him

i just wanted to know if their is anything non-diet-training I can do to feel better....nvm i guess

meditation...drugs...sex...hobbies...anything to distract you from recognizing your internal misery.

what makes you feel good/happy when you aren't dieting?

[Rsardinia]

First part sucks, last part sucks even more. The middle is all gravy as you get leaner.

First part sucks for me cuz my body is in shock that it doesn't get all the calories I've been feeding it for months before hand.

The last part sucks because you are so lean that your body is craving anything it can get yet you have to keep your daily intake at a deficit.

[fimblez]

meditation...drugs...sex...hobbies...anything to distract you from recognizing your internal misery.

what makes you feel good/happy when you aren't dieting?

funny you say drugs lol

i started smoking my last cut, and quit after prep was over

apparently the nicotine acts as an anti-estrogen(for what it's worth, it did make me look leaner-less water retention I guess) and raises leptin

but mainly I just used it so I could have a *** when I wanted food lol, actually worked nicely......still felt like a zombie though

[Bnizzle163]

I'm going to agree with most guys on here. It sucks at first, then you're cruisin' for quite some time, but once you get to the nitty gritty, the mind games come into play, the anxiety, the cravings for random foods you'd never even think of eating normally lol... it's a wonderful and thrilling ride :).

I have only had 2 days this prep where I felt somewhat like a zombie. I only had a few hours sleep the previous nights though. I'm only about 6.5 weeks into prep, so I still have a while before I have to start dragging myself off the couch to go to work lol.

[_jim_]

I'm going to agree with most guys on here. It sucks at first, then you're cruisin' for quite some time, but once you get to the nitty gritty, the mind games come into play, the anxiety, the cravings for random foods you'd never even think of eating normally lol... it's a wonderful and thrilling ride :).

I have only had 2 days this prep where I felt somewhat like a zombie. I only had a few hours sleep the previous nights though. I'm only about 6.5 weeks into prep, so I still have a while before I have to start dragging myself off the couch to go to work lol.

LOL at the cravings of random foods. I think I drooled at a few dog food commercials during prep.

[AustrianOakJr]

im not "slapping away" motivation and advice....wtf

my trainer wont allow me to say my macros or training, i honestly dont know why but havent the nerve to ask him

i just wanted to know if their is anything non-diet-training I can do to feel better....nvm i guess

Interesting. Hmmmm. :confused:

One of my rules in selecting a trainer is that I am free to ask him whatever I want or need to know. No magic "no one goes behind the curtain" advice.

I dont want to bash anyone or cause unnecessary concern but I would be very careful about "secret" advice. And my trainer would be the first person that I would ask this question to. Again, I have never felt like a zombie right out of the gate because I really dont drop my calories all that low at the start, but apparently others do. But if you continue feeling horrible all prep, I would question your trainer because as Rsardinia says the bulk of the fat burning should be gravy....just trickling that fat onto the carbohydrate furnace for a few months should be fairly easy. Now the last 5-10 lbs might be pure torture but thats to be expected.

The cigarettes is an interesting one......havent heard that before. Ever tried puffing on one while you were out running cardio?? ;)

[mrusa85]

Interesting. Hmmmm. :confused:

One of my rules in selecting a trainer is that I am free to ask him whatever I want or need to know. No magic "no one goes behind the curtain" advice.

I dont want to bash anyone or cause unnecessary concern but I would be very careful about "secret" advice. And my trainer would be the first person that I would ask this question to. Again, I have never felt like a zombie right out of the gate because I really dont drop my calories all that low at the start, but apparently others do. But if you continue feeling horrible all prep, I would question your trainer because as Rsardinia says the bulk of the fat burning should be gravy....just trickling that fat onto the carbohydrate furnace for a few months should be fairly easy. Now the last 5-10 lbs might be pure torture but thats to be expected.



Yeah, you shouldn't feel like a zombie right out of the gate. There's no reason to. Take it up with your trainer. He either has good reasons for what he's doing or he has no clue. Either way you need to know at the BEGINNING of your prep and not later on. If you can't talk to your trainer or coach about it, find another trainer or coach.

[fimblez]

Interesting. Hmmmm. :confused:

One of my rules in selecting a trainer is that I am free to ask him whatever I want or need to know. No magic "no one goes behind the curtain" advice.

I dont want to bash anyone or cause unnecessary concern but I would be very careful about "secret" advice. And my trainer would be the first person that I would ask this question to. Again, I have never felt like a zombie right out of the gate because I really dont drop my calories all that low at the start, but apparently others do. But if you continue feeling horrible all prep, I would question your trainer because as Rsardinia says the bulk of the fat burning should be gravy....just trickling that fat onto the carbohydrate furnace for a few months should be fairly easy. Now the last 5-10 lbs might be pure torture but thats to be expected.

The cigarettes is an interesting one......havent heard that before. Ever tried puffing on one while you were out running cardio?? ;)

lol why would i do that

it didnt affect my cardiovascular performance at all(then again i only do liss......30mins to 60mins of fast incline treadmill walking

[ChristianBBer]

Def disagree here, like oak said...if the diet is that intolerable at the start then its not optimal imo. I always tend to gradually feel more like sh*t.

Op, diet drinks are your friend...thats all I have for you man

lulz aint that the truth

[AustrianOakJr]

lol why would i do that

it didnt affect my cardiovascular performance at all(then again i only do liss......30mins to 60mins of fast incline treadmill walking

I was being sarcastic. Usually, my cardio isnt the biggest tax on my cardiovascular performance.....aside from HIIT, its legs day. You cant squat, deadlift, or lunge when youre coughing up a black lung. But it sounds smoking was more of an occasional thing for you rather than a habit.