A Stay at Home Hdrol User- 75 to 100mg 6 weeker

[wutsrealgood]

Stats:
-age- 24
-height- 6'3
-weight- 234
-bf- 11-12%
-Previous Cycles (2 years plus ago)
--tren, supremacy and mass caps, dymethazine

Workout: "Slightly revised Arnold beginner 1 program"
-3 days on, 1 off, repeat
-day1- chest/upper back
-day2- shoulders/arms
-day3- legs/lower back
--*reps 6-10 on hdrol, 4-8 on PCT
--*done in my home gym hence stay at home

Diet: Eat clean and heavy
-Calories ~4500
-Carbs ~450
-Protein ~320
-Fat ~150
--*40 carbs, 30 protein, 30 fat ration
--*will adjust diet as weight increases

Hdrol Dosing- Starting at 75mg and adjust accordingly throughout 6 weeks.
-75/75/then maybe 100 depending on sides for 4 weeks

Support Supplements- Preloaded Week Prior through End Pct
-Liv52 (liver)
-Cycle Assist (support solution)
-Cissus (joints)
-Taurine 5g daily (for back pumps)

Pct-
Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)- 20/20/10/10
Formadrol xt- 4/3/2/1
Tribulus/ZMA- Last Week of Cycle then throughout PCT
Kreaklyn

Updates-
-Will Post Lift Logs every 4 days.
-Describe any sides and answer all questions.
-Open to suggestions/recomendations throughout cylce.
-Pictures Will Be Posted Before and After.

[wutsrealgood]

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Before Pictures

[wutsrealgood]

Preload Week

Weight 230 in morning without clothes or food/water consumed.

Days1-3- Took Off to Rest For Cycle

Day4
-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 225x10,255x8, 275x5
Incline- 205x10, 220x8, 225x6
Pullover- 75x10, 85x10, 95x8
Fly- 35x8, 8, 6
Wide Pullups- 10,8, 8
Bent Rows- 225x12, 275x8, 295x6
Rack Pull- 405x8
Crunches- 20, 15

Day5
-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 165x8, 175x7, 180x7
Upright Row- 135x10, 145x8, 6
Lat Raise- 20x8,8,8
Shoulder Press- 135x10, 155x10, 185x6
Shrugs- 315x15,12,12
Stand Curl- 115x8,10,10
Concen Curl- 25x8,8,8
Close Grip- 135x1-. 185x10, 205x7
Stand Tri Ext- 75x10, 95x10, 8
Reverse Crunch- 25,20,15

Day 6
-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 275x10, 315x10, 345x8
Front Squat- 205x8, 225x8
SLDL- 135x8, 8
Good Morning- 135x9,5
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Crunches- 25,20,20
Day 7
-Rest

*Starting Hdrol today so to avoid Confusion will restart at day 1 for lift logs.

[trm2k]

that my friend is a great looking cycle! 2 thumbs up!

I'll be tracking ur progress...gonna start my hdrol cycle in feb.

good luck man

[wutsrealgood]

that my friend is a great looking cycle! 2 thumbs up!

I'll be tracking ur progress...gonna start my hdrol cycle in feb.

good luck man

Thanks bro, I know everyone's different but I want everyone to know my experience so they can do things the same/differently based on my experience. I forgot to post my diet so it will be below this post

[wutsrealgood]

Diet:

900am Wakeup Shake- Whey Protein, 2 scoops Waxy Maize

930am Meal- 3/4 cup oats, 1 tablespoon brown sugar, 10oz egg whites

1030-1230- Lift

1230am PWO- Quick Gainer Shake

130pm Meal- 12 oz ground beef, 2 cups brown rice

430pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 1tbsp Olive oil

730pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 1tbsp Olive oil

1030pm Bedtime Shake- Whey Protein

Totals- 4,508cals, 460.1 carbs, 320.7 protein, 143.5 fats

[SicilianFool]

Im in. Good luck bro, cant wait to see your gains. I am on the last week of my 6 week cycle at 75mg tomorrow so Id love to see how the higher dosage treats you.

[trm2k]

you should have no problem gaining 10-15 pounds on this cycle...maybe more...you've got it down pat!

[wutsrealgood]

thanks bros i felt like doing 75 for a week or two than going to 100 if the sides arent bad cuz ive been reading of alot of heavier people saying 100 was the sweet spot for them but never really found any logs at a high dosage. i hope mine will be able to help out those that were thinking of bumpin it up early instead of waiting til last few days of a cycle when ur sides are already a b*tch

[trm2k]

yeah your a bigger dude and have experience with ph's...100mg shouldn't be a big problem.

any specific reason you're saving creatine for the pct?

[swimmer32]

Good luck OP! Nice to see another tall guy running it, so I'll be watching. It'll be interesting to see how much more the higher dosage affects you.

Maybe I missed it above - but are you purely bulking, or going for some recomp also?

[wutsrealgood]

Good luck OP! Nice to see another tall guy running it, so I'll be watching. It'll be interesting to see how much more the higher dosage affects you.

Maybe I missed it above - but are you purely bulking, or going for some recomp also?

Im going for more of a bulk, just added 2 more tablespoons of olive oil so my diet is about 4750 cals now.. I'm only two days in the hdrol but it has increased my hunger already, so as I gain weight I'm goin to try hit 5500 cals by the end


yeah your a bigger dude and have experience with ph's...100mg shouldn't be a big problem.

any specific reason you're saving creatine for the pct?

I'm saving the creatine for pct cuz the hdrol is going to be giving me a kickass pump which it already has been just two days in, and when I get off, I'll add the creatine back to help with keeping my weight that I gained and most of my strength I hope.

[wutsrealgood]

Status Update:
(75 mgs, 2 days in)
-Incredible Pump during workouts
-Feels like I can just keep going and going
-Increase Hunger

No sides, will post lift log tomorrow.

I also feel the need to constantly walk around the house with my shirt off cuz my muscles look swole all day.

[trm2k]

I was unaware that hdrol gives u a pump...can't wait to start mine!

how are you spacing your dosing?

[wutsrealgood]

I take 50 mg in the mornin when i wakeup around 9am, and then I workout about an hr or two after and take my support supps around 4 hrs after my hdrol pill at 1, and then take my next 25mg hdrol at 6pm then cycle assist before bed at 1030pm

[BBlikecrazy]

hey bro just wanted to drop by and wish you good luck. im in for this

[chaser1712]

In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

[wutsrealgood]

hey bro just wanted to drop by and wish you good luck. im in for this

THanks, Good luck to you too!


In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

People say taking the support supps within 4 hours of the hdrol will affect the absorption of the hdrol. You probably won't notice a difference, but I'm just being safe than sorry.

The purpose of your PCT is to try to return your body levels to normal. During PCT your going to be fighting to keep the gains/weight you made. Depending on how well you did your pct and the damage the ph did to your levels will affect how soon your body's back to normal.

Once you recover from the ph, you should be able to make gains again naturally just keep in mind they aren't going to come as fast as they did in ur 6 week ph run.

[slimwealthy1]

let's do this big man

[chaser1712]

Right on. I'm just running h-drol as well, I know that shutdown is possible but unlikely. I have a really good pct set up so I think I'll be good. Thanks bro

[BBlikecrazy]

In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

i agree with wutsrealgood. ive read many logs and reviews saying its not recommended to take hdrol and support supps together because of the absorption. i never took it together though so im not saying this from personal experience. but i read that its better to take support supps and hdrol 3-4 hours apart

[wutsrealgood]

I'm going to post my first lift log tomorrow.. I decided to start weighing myself in the mornin before breakfast and at night before bed.. I weighed myself the last 3 days in the morning and have been around 230 but when I weigh myself at night there is a weight gain from the day before.. probably from eating more and increased water intake during the day, but with both weights I'll be able get a better picture of my weight gain

I also increased the amount of oats of eating so my calories are at about 5000, ~500 carbs, ~330 protein, ~160 fats.

[scrossmaggard]

Good luck with the log

[scrossmaggard]

i agree with wutsrealgood. ive read many logs and reviews saying its not recommended to take hdrol and support supps together because of the absorption. i never took it together though so im not saying this from personal experience. but i read that its better to take support supps and hdrol 3-4 hours apart

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

[slimwealthy1]

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

for the first 4 weeks i took them at the same time, for the last 2 i took them 4 hours apart, i didn't notice a difference.

[wutsrealgood]

yea i dont see how it would make a HUGE difference

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 75mgs

Day1 (230lbs +0)

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 245x10, 265x6, 285x3
Incline- 205x10, 225x7, 235x6
Pullover- 95x10, 105x8, 110x7
Fly- 35x12,8,12
Wide Pullups- 11,10,9
Yate Rows- 265x10, 285x8, 305x6*
Rack Pull- 425x8
Crunches- 25,25,25

Day2 (230.6 +.6)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 175x8, 185x7, 195x6
Upright Row- 145x10, 155x9, 165x6
Lat Raise- 25x6,7,8
Shoulder Press- 170x10, 185x8, 195x5
Shrugs- 315x15, 335x15, 355x12*
Stand Curl- 115x10, 135x8, 145x4*
Concen Curl- 25x10,10,10
Close Grip- 185x10, 205x8, 225x8
Stand Tri Ext- 95x10, 115x7, 125x5
Reverse Crunch- 3x25

Day 3 (230.2 +.2)

-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 315x10, 245x8, 365x6*
Front Squat- 225x8, 245x8, 265x5*
SLDL- 225x6,7,5
Good Morning- 135x10, 185x6, 185x8*
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Crunches- 25,25,25

Cliffs
-Started to really feel pump days 2 and 3
-No weight gain yet
-No sides
*-PR

[BBlikecrazy]

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

i read in some logs that people who took it together had som stomach aches or something like that. some people didnt notice any difference ( like you guys ). i guess its just different from person to person

[trm2k]

@wutsrealgood are you taking your hdrol doses on an empty stomach or with food?

[wutsrealgood]

@wutsrealgood are you taking your hdrol doses on an empty stomach or with food?

I take 50 mg in the mornin when i wake up with fish oil than have my protein shake than 15 mins later have breakfast, than my 2nd dose of 25 is about 10 hrs later, an hour after I eat my food.

No reason really why I do it like that except that hdrol has half life of 12 hours so I try take the two dosages an hour apart.

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 75mgs

Day4 (233.6 lbs +3.6lbs)

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 245x10, 265x8, 285x6 *
Incline- 215x10, 225x8, 235x6
Pullover- 105x10,9,8
Fly- 35x15, 45x8, 8
Wide Pullups- 12*,11,8
Bent Rows- 225x10, 245x9, 265x8

Day5 (234.4lbs + 4.6)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 175x8, 190x6, 200x6*
Upright Row- 155x6, 7, 6
Lat Raise- 20x10,10,10
Shoulder Press- 175x10, 185x9, 205x6
Stand Curl- 120x10, 130x8, 140x6
Concen Curl- 35x10,8,9
Close Grip- 205x10, 225x8, 235x6*
Stand Tri Ext- 115x10, 120x7
Reverse Crunch- 25,25, 20

Day 6 (235.8 + 5.8)

-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)

Decided to skip workout out because my legs were still sore from Day 3 and my groin is still hurting from a couple weeks ago when i pulled it lunging. Last workout, I worked through the pain, but doing it again seemed stupid, just going to let it rest a bit more

CLiffs
- Weight Gain has begun (excited :) )
-Pumps Are Ok
-No sides

Side Notes
-The drol hasnt kicked in enough to workout 6 days in a row, so I'm just going to have to be patient.
-Week 2 will bump to 100mgs.

[swimmer32]

Strong shoulder press is strong OP. Keep it going!

[pwicks83]

I really mirrin your log so far. Keep up the hard work.

[wutsrealgood]

Thanks guys! Its hard gettin my body used to going from 6 reps which i was doin b4 cycle to the 10 reps my first set. It'll only be a matter of time though. For legs, I just have to get them warmed up alot more before going for my first set to avoid injury.

[slimwealthy1]

nice breast lifts. keep chuggin

[trm2k]

are you taking anything pre-workout or any stims at all while on cycle?

[wutsrealgood]

nice breast lifts. keep chuggin

Thanks bro Id be happy to gain half the amount of weight you did!


are you taking anything pre-workout or any stims at all while on cycle?

Not at all lol, the first two days i took hemo rage after my 50mg dosing of hdrol and my heart was gonna come out of my chest.. Without preworkout my heart rate seems normal during the lifts, and the hdrol is kicking in enough to give me the pump I need to squeeze out my reps.

[wutsrealgood]

Day 7 (236 +6)

-Rest Day

Day 8 (236.5 +6.5)
**Started 100mgs

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 250X10, 270x8, 290X5
Incline- 220x10, 230x8, 240x6
Pullover- 105x10,10,10
Fly- 45x10, 8, 8
Wide Pullups- 8,5,8
Bent Rows- 245x10, 265x8, 275x6
Rack Pull- 435x8
Crunches- 25, 18, 15

Day9 (236.6 +6.6)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 175x8, 190x7, 205x4*
Upright Row- 145x10, 150x8, 7
Lat Raise- 20x10, 25x7, 7
Shoulder Press- 185x10, 195x8, 205x6
Shrugs- 335x15, 355x15*, 365x10*
Stand Curl- 115x10, 135x10*, 145x8
Concen Curl- 35x8, 9, 10
Close Grip- 215x10, 225x7, 235x6*
Stand Tri Ext- 85x10, 95x8, 105x8
Reverse Crunch- 25, 25, 25

Cliffs-
-Slight Weight Increase
-Muscles Look Bigger
-Strength is up, but not by much
-Taking Taurine 3g pre/post workout (no back pumps)
-No sides noticeable

[slimwealthy1]

looks like youre on par for a 20-25 pound gainer

[wutsrealgood]

looks like youre on par for a 20-25 pound gainer

thanks man, the size is def coming! my routine has a decent amount of volume and higher rep range, so the strength gains aren't as apparent as some of the other logs. however, the drol is def helping me keep up the weight towards the end of my lifts and get extra reps in the beginning. I look leaner too even though I upped my cals to around 5200 lol

[slimwealthy1]

thanks man, the size is def coming! my routine has a decent amount of volume and higher rep range, so the strength gains aren't as apparent as some of the other logs. however, the drol is def helping me keep up the weight towards the end of my lifts and get extra reps in the beginning. I look leaner too even though I upped my cals to around 5200 lol

why not lower the volume and reps to see if you can gain more? Do you plan on doing that in the later stages of the cycle? Starting out at 230 pounds and having to gain, 5000 calories sounds about right haha

[wutsrealgood]

why not lower the volume and reps to see if you can gain more? Do you plan on doing that in the later stages of the cycle? Starting out at 230 pounds and having to gain, 5000 calories sounds about right haha

I'm waiting to see if the strength people say kick in weeks 2 or 3 helps lol The last 3 months Ive lifted low reps so I wanted to switch to higher reps and have the hdrol help me still do a decent amount of weight for 10 reps.

I think its a matter of time until my body adjusts to the higher reps and I plan on lowering the reps/volume on PCT so my gains are solidified.

[trm2k]

I've never used taurine as a supp but I have noticed in some energy drinks...does it give you any kind of pre-workout energy?

[wutsrealgood]

I've never used taurine as a supp but I have noticed in some energy drinks...does it give you any kind of pre-workout energy?

my bottle of taurine by primaforce says:
-Supports Healthy Blood Sugar Levels Already Within A Normal Range*
-Antioxidant Properties*
-Supports Energy Production*

I've never felt energy from taking it and I am more than capable of falling asleep after taking it, so I wouldnt say so.

[wutsrealgood]

*Hdrol Days 10-11 100mg*

Day 10 (234 +4, minus 2 due to diarreah water loss day prior)
-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 320x10, 350x8*, 380x4*
Front Squat- 245x3, 3, 3
SLDL- 135x8, 185x6
Good Morning- 135x8, 185x6
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Crunches- 20,15

I had jury duty all day then work was able to start lifitng at 930pam, so after I got some great new PR's (*) in squats I was satisfied and loss focus with other lifts.. I may have to switch the way my hands are with front squats b/c my wrists were killing me which usually doesnt happen.

Day 11 (235.8 +5.8 regained water weight that was loss)
-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 250x10, 275x8*, 295x4*
Incline- 225x8, 235x8, 245x5
Pullover- 95x10, 105x8, 115x8*
Wide Pullups- 5,7,7
Bent Rows- 255x10, 275x9, 295x5*
Rack Pull- 455x8*
Crunches- 23,18,15

I was pumped up and hit some new pr's on chest. I started day 1 doing 275 for around 5 and got 8, and then 295 for 4. Pullups were killing my left bicep, so I may switch to lat pull downs b/c it was killing me.


Cliffs-
-Weight still stable although calories around 5200: ~510carbs 360 protein, and 175 fats
-Great Pumps and Feeling good
-Sides- Back pumps here and there during lifts, few pimples on back
-Joints good, taking cissus and glucosamine.

[BBlikecrazy]

nice PRs bro. doing a good job, keep up. sorry to hear about the setbacks lately =/

[SicilianFool]

Keep up the good work bro, so far youre doing great

[wutsrealgood]

nice PRs bro. doing a good job, keep up. sorry to hear about the setbacks lately =/

Its not too bad, but for some reason when ever i take my quickgainer shake immediately after i lift i get diarreah all day, so I just have to remember to wait 10 mins or so. I'll be fine switching to lat pull down cuz I dont wanna mess up my bicep. And my groins been healing well since I hold a butterfly stretch for 5 mins each day. I also made my stance closer on squats and feet not as angled out.

Just gotta stay focused and do work.


Keep up the good work bro, so far youre doing great

Yea man my lifts have been going up and my size has exploded. I was waiting until the very end to post progress pics for the aw factor, but I may have to do some pics halfway.

[Porkchop5]

Looking great so far. I will be following and will be 3-4 weeks behind you on my cycle. I like your workouts alot and may borrow them for this week to see how I like them.

Keep getting huge!

[wutsrealgood]

Looking great so far. I will be following and will be 3-4 weeks behind you on my cycle. I like your workouts alot and may borrow them for this week to see how I like them.

Keep getting huge!

Thanks man I've been lifting really hard on that routine and seen some great size gains.. Good luck on your lifts recovery from your injury and think a lot about whether or not you need to do you cycle right now or wait a couple months :)

[wutsrealgood]

I'm updating my diet once more this time adding more protein by drinking two cups of egg whites instead of 1.3 and eat 16oz of ground beef instead of 12. Also, taking two scoops of protein before bed instead of 1.

So it now looks like:

900am Wakeup Shake- Whey Protein, 2 scoops Waxy Maize

930am Meal- 1 cup oats, 5 teaspoon brown sugar, 16oz egg whites

1030-1230- Lift (1 scoop of waixymaze prior)

1230am PWO- Quick Gainer Shake

130pm Meal- 16 oz ground beef, 2 cups brown rice

430pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 2 tbsp Olive oil

730pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 2 tbsp Olive oil

1030pm Bedtime Shake- Whey Protein (2 scoops)

[wutsrealgood]

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[macmoney]

http://i51.tinypic.com/30m8leq.jpg

which place is this from?

[wutsrealgood]

which place is this from?

Screenshot of fitday.com. I always enter the foods I eat as custom to get accurate numbers because if you search for foods on there sometimes they're way off lol

[mikehoncho22]

Screenshot of fitday.com. I always enter all the foods I eat as custom foods to get accurate numbers because if you search for foods on there sometimes they're way off lol

I love fit day lol i use it everyday....makes life easy!

btw nice log so far im IN!

[macmoney]

Screenshot of fitday.com. I always enter all the foods I eat as custom foods to get accurate numbers because if you search for foods on there sometimes they're way off lol

I thought it was fitday. I think im going to sign up again with them, I didn't want to have to custom all the foods, but doing it by hand sucks. I might just sit down Saturday and throw in a ton of my foods.

[wutsrealgood]

I love fit day lol i use it everyday....makes life easy!

btw nice log so far im IN!

haha it sure does bro.. Thanks for following!


I thought it was fitday. I think im going to sign up again with them, I didn't want to have to custom all the foods, but doing it by hand sucks. I might just sit down Saturday and throw in a ton of my foods.

Yea, thats what I did sat down for an hr and entered in about 20+ foods, now I just point and click to see what I'm eating. The thing I really like is that it gives you a pie chart of your fats, proteins, and carbs.

Right now I'm at 36/31/33 carbs/protein/fat.

[RVAPump]

Quacker oats FTW!

[swimmer32]

Nice lifts OP! Awesome that you're setting PR's in week 2, since the best is yet to come.

I'll have to check out fitday again - I didn't even realize you could customize food. I've been tracking everything on an excel spreadsheet. I have all the different foods that I ever eat broken down by protein, carbs, and fat. Then I just select what I eat, and plug it into the current day. Works pretty well, but I don't want to deal with making graphs. :)

[wutsrealgood]

Quacker oats FTW!

Fa Sho!


Nice lifts OP! Awesome that you're setting PR's in week 2, since the best is yet to come.

I'll have to check out fitday again - I didn't even realize you could customize food. I've been tracking everything on an excel spreadsheet. I have all the different foods that I ever eat broken down by protein, carbs, and fat. Then I just select what I eat, and plug it into the current day. Works pretty well, but I don't want to deal with making graphs. :)

Haha those PR's did not come easy lol Im hopin to hdrol really boosts my strength soon so the weight at least feels a lil lighter lol

Def give fitday another shot, you'll be able to log each day, see some graphs, and can easily click on any day you logged to see the foods you ate !

[ChristianLoving]

Is it true that H-drol doesn't seem to be the best in the way of strength gains?

[wutsrealgood]

Is it true that H-drol doesn't seem to be the best in the way of strength gains?

There are better prohormones out there for strength gains. Originally, I was going to use mdol now and then near summer use hdrol to cut, but people were telling me the mdrol would spoil me for hdrol meaning I'd gain way more strength on mdol than hdrol. I chose hdrol because of the lesser sides and I'd rather deal with having less strength gains now and then having more later with a stronger compound.

There are logs of people gaining 20 plus on bulks, but some of those people started bulking and hdrol at the same time. As for me I've been bulking for about 2-3 months prior to this and have went from maybe 215 to 230 with out a ph in that time. So thats about 5 a month. If you do a 6 week (month and half cycle) that's maybe 8 lbs that you would of got without hdrol on a bulk plus the 8-15 you expect from this, your looking at possible +20.

I just hope to hit 245 which would be +15, but would still be happy with a solid +10 too!

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol-100mg

Day 14 (235 +5, minus 1 from day before)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 185x6, 195x6, 205x5*
Upright Row- 135x10, 145x9, 155x6
Shoulder Press- 185x10, 195x8, 205x6
Lat Raise- 25x8,8, 7
Shrugs- 335x15, 365x15*, 385x10*
Stand Curl- 95x10, 10, 10
Concen Curl- 25x10x3
Close Grip- 225x8, 7,6
Stand Tri Ext- 95x10, 105x8, 115x6

I found out that my bicep was getting hurt from doing clean and presses using wraps and dropping the weight down too fast/hard. I removed the wraps and focused more on my form which helped a lot. I also did slow controlled curls to not harm my biceps.

Day 10 (236.2 +6.2)
-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 315x10, 365x8*, 385x5*
Front Squat- 225x8, 8, 8
SLDL- 225x8, 8, 7
Good Morning- 135x8, 185x6
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Rev Crunches- 25,25,20

I had an awesome squat day. Hit new PR's. Switched my feet to pointing straight instead of angled out which took away right groin pain. It brought back an old pain I had in my left glute/hamstring but doing the squats slow and controlled shouldnt make it an issue. I just may be favoring that side a bit which I'll have to stop.

Cliffs:
-*new pr's, More concerned of adding weight to last set and not first two
-Feeling good, happy, and being patient about my gains knowing I have to do work
-Took taurine pre workout, intra, and post and eliminated all back pumps on legday
-No sides except a pimple or two

[wutsrealgood]

I've also been drinking a small amount of coffee preworkout to help get me ready for the lift since I lift in the morning. Heart Rate did not seem to increase even when taking 50mg of hdrol prior.

[slimwealthy1]

I've also been drinking a small amount of coffee preworkout to help get me ready for the lift since I lift in the morning. Heart Rate did not seem to increase even when taking 50mg of hdrol prior.

50mg of drol 100mg of caffeine definitely shouldn't be bad.

[dollerbill]

Lookin good OP. I'm jealous of all you guys that get to bulk taking 5000+ calories. I just started my hdrol cycle last week and am trying to recomp so I'm down at 2,300 cals right now. Even at 2,000 the hdrol was having me gain weight so I decided to slowly bump up to 2,500 then 3,000, but 5,000 sure sounds nice :D

And for anyone out there with an iphone or ipod touch, I use an app called LoseIt! It's just like fitday it allows you to customize all your foods or choose from thousands of preloaded supermarket or restaurant foods. It's free on the app store and is super convenient

Screenshots for anyone interested

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1245/loseit.jpg

[wutsrealgood]

haha you'll get there someday dollerbill, i went from doing 3k to 4k over the years and now 5k hopefully by the end of winter i may be pushin 6k.. It's a pain in the ass if your eating clean tho, but after bulking dirty before and getting fat its the way for me!

Thats a sweet app! I wish my phone could do that, it would help if I ever eat something not on my diet like a cookie or a bag of chips I'm starting to find at work while on this cycle.

[jquintinjr]

Lookin good OP. I'm jealous of all you guys that get to bulk taking 5000+ calories. I just started my hdrol cycle last week and am trying to recomp so I'm down at 2,300 cals right now. Even at 2,000 the hdrol was having me gain weight so I decided to slowly bump up to 2,500 then 3,000, but 5,000 sure sounds nice :D

And for anyone out there with an iphone or ipod touch, I use an app called LoseIt! It's just like fitday it allows you to customize all your foods or choose from thousands of preloaded supermarket or restaurant foods. It's free on the app store and is super convenient

Screenshots for anyone interested

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1245/loseit.jpg

myfitnesspal is better

[dollerbill]

myfitnesspal is better
iPhone app?

[gtg223x]

iPhone app?

Yeah, I've used it for awhile its pretty damn good
Never ran into anything it didnt have, from supreme protien bar to my pasta brand
not sure if yours does by myfitnesspal calcs nutrients & sodium too
also free & can access on the regular net (syncs)

[wutsrealgood]

Day 14(236.6 +6.6)
-Rest Day

Today feels good. I'll get to relax and take my mind off lifting for the day. My weight is back up to what it's been so hopefully it will be steady gains from here on out. My body is getting used to the 5300 cals and extra added protein so hopefully won't have any more days of diarrhea lol

[wutsrealgood]

Day15 (237lbs +7)
Hdrol 100mgs

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 245x10, 275x8, 295x6*
Incline- 225x9, 8, 7
Pullover- 95x10,10,10
Lat Pulldown- 180x12, 200x8, 8
Bent Rows- 275x10, 285x8, 295x6*
Rack Pull- 465x6
Crunches- 20,20,15

I drank a half cup of coffee prior to the lift in the am so I was pumped. Got PR's on Bench and Rack Pull. I'm hoping I can get my bench to 315 for 5 and bent rows 315 for 5 too. I also changed my 2nd dose of hdrol to before bed which has been helping my morning workouts. I also take taurine mid workout which eliminates back pumps.

Cliffs
-*New Pr's
-Deep Sleeps and having a lot of dreams lol
-No Sides except 1 or 2 pimples
-Good sense of well being

[jquintinjr]

iPhone app?

free iphone app and free online website. been a member since jan 2010. place is legit. helped me go from 130-162 today while staying lean

[jquintinjr]

Is it true that H-drol doesn't seem to be the best in the way of strength gains?

this should give u an idea of what ph/ds produce better or worse strength gains.

look and the anabolic and androgenic numbers

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b333/rastafariskate/chart3-1.jpg

[dollerbill]

free iphone app and free online website. been a member since jan 2010. place is legit. helped me go from 130-162 today while staying lean
I tried the iphone app but it won't load on my phone. Maybe it isn't 4.0 compatible? I'll try the website and see if I like it, then worry about the phone

[scottysbody]

[QUOTE=jquintinjr;577337091]this should give u an idea of what ph/ds produce better or worse strength gains.

look and the anabolic and androgenic numbers


Hey Bro, where'd you get this? I'd like to read into it a bit more. Thanks.

[swimmer32]

Strong lifts OP!

[wutsrealgood]

Strong lifts OP!

haha thanks a comment on the actual log! I got some updates to post tomorrow and maybe throw up so progress pics a little before the halfway mark :)

[jquintinjr]

I tried the iphone app but it won't load on my phone. Maybe it isn't 4.0 compatible? I'll try the website and see if I like it, then worry about the phone

^^^it should work. try getting it again and running it





[QUOTE=jquintinjr;577337091]this should give u an idea of what ph/ds produce better or worse strength gains.

look and the anabolic and androgenic numbers


Hey Bro, where'd you get this? I'd like to read into it a bit more. Thanks.




^^^^http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?445176-***Prohormone-OTC-Chart***

its a pretty good read

[wutsrealgood]

^^^it should work. try getting it again and running it




[QUOTE=scottysbody;578430001]




^^^^http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?445176-***Prohormone-OTC-Chart***

its a pretty good read


I know you guys mean no harm, but if you're going to keep up the iphone discussion please pm one another or start a new thread since this is after all a hdrol log :p

[wutsrealgood]

Pics on left are before at 230lbs.
Pics on right are Day 18 drol at 238.8lbs

Front
http://i52.tinypic.com/mwwr47.jpg

Side
http://i53.tinypic.com/24y8llv.jpg

Back
http://i53.tinypic.com/qxvucn.jpg

Double Bi's
http://i55.tinypic.com/2eyja6c.jpg

I don't see a huge difference in the pics, but when I look at myself in the mirror I seem bigger and the scale says I gained almost 9lbs in 18days so I'm somewhat happy about that. Bench has gone from 275 for 6 to 295 for 6. Rows and squats have increased as well!

[trm2k]

looking good op...

you may have already addressed this but what does your on-cycle split look like?

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 100 mgs

Day 16 (237 +7)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 185x6, 195x5,210x4*
Upright Row- 135x10, 145x10, 155x7
Shoulder Press- 185x10, 205x8, 215x6
Lat Raise- 25x6,6,5
Shrugs- 365x15,15,12
Stand Curl- 95x10,10.10
Concen Curl- 25x10,10,10
Close Grip- 225x8,8,8
Stand Tri Ext- 95x10,10,10

I had a good pump this workout out and got a pr doing clean and press. I'm making sure I am warmed up enough prior to lifts because its starting to get cold in my basement. I did some research on my bicep pain and it seemed I strained it while lowering the weight between exercises (i.e bring the bar off squat position to lower bent row position with out taking weight off it).

Day 17 (238 +8)

-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 335x10, 355x8, 385x7
ATG Squat- 225x8,7,6
SLDL- 225x5, 5
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Reverse Crunches-25,25

Im tired of parallel/box squats.. Its too hard to tell if im going parallel without mirrors and using a bench as a guide hasnt been helping. The position just does not feel natural for me compared to when I squat til my hamstring touches my calves. At the bottom position my butts about 7 inches from the floor, but at least I wont be getting leg/knee pains. My squat weights will drop but I feel my legs will grow more :)

Day 18 (238.8 +8.8)

-Rest

I normally workout 6 days in a row, but today as I was warming up to bench press my outer pecs were still too sore from prior lifts, so I was smart about it and will take an extra day of rest. Least thing I need now is a strained pec on top of the groin, bicep and hamstring. Those pains have been going away btw just being more smart about lifting at home without a partner!


Cliffs-
-Posted some pics on middle of page three
-Weight Gain almost to about 9lbs
-No sides, no acne
-Thinking of bumping to 125 mg weeks 4,5, and 6

[wutsrealgood]

looking good op...

you may have already addressed this but what does your on-cycle split look like?

A- Chest/Upper Back
B- Shoulders/Traps/Arms
C- Legs/Lower Back

I either doing this twice in a week than a day off. Or just do A,B,C and a day off if im too sore.

Im hoping this log will hit 3 pages soon so I can bump my pics to the top of that page.. It's a pain scrolling down so much lol

[scottysbody]

[QUOTE=jquintinjr;578775511]^^^it should work. try getting it again and running it

I know you guys mean no harm, but if you're going to keep up the iphone discussion please pm one another or start a new thread since this is after all a hdrol log :p

Sorry OP, not meaning to hijack.

Progress is definitely noticeable for 2.5 weeks. You should definitely hit 245 by start of PCT. Keep it up.

[jquintinjr]

[QUOTE=wutsrealgood;578926441]

Sorry OP, not meaning to hijack.

Progress is definitely noticeable for 2.5 weeks. You should definitely hit 245 by start of PCT. Keep it up.

agreed. and sorry bro

[wutsrealgood]

[QUOTE=wutsrealgood;578926441]

Sorry OP, not meaning to hijack.

Progress is definitely noticeable for 2.5 weeks. You should definitely hit 245 by start of PCT. Keep it up.



[QUOTE=scottysbody;578958921]

agreed. and sorry bro

It's all good bros! If i can hit 245 I'll be happy.. I'm trying to hit 250-260 by feb and then work on trimmin the fat for summer:)

[swimmer32]

I don't see a huge difference in the pics, but when I look at myself in the mirror I seem bigger and the scale says I gained almost 9lbs in 18days so I'm somewhat happy about that.

Ah the joys of being 6'3". It takes a lot of mass to really look bigger when you're this tall. It's typically a 15-20 pound difference before I can tell a difference.

[wutsrealgood]

Ah the joys of being 6'3". It takes a lot of mass to really look bigger when you're this tall. It's typically a 15-20 pound difference before I can tell a difference.

haha thats def true! just gotta keep working hard, slow and steady wins the race and hdrol sure helps speed up the pace!

[swimmer32]

Just checking in - how are your strength gains? I've heard that week 3 is when the strength gains really kick in, but it just hasn't happened yet. Hopefully my next couple workouts will get it going.

[mikehoncho22]

Ah the joys of being 6'3". It takes a lot of mass to really look bigger when you're this tall. It's typically a 15-20 pound difference before I can tell a difference.

lol i def know this!

[SICKNOUZA]

Just checking in - how are your strength gains? I've heard that week 3 is when the strength gains really kick in, but it just hasn't happened yet. Hopefully my next couple workouts will get it going.

i just started the 3rd week 2 days ago and today it all hit me like WOW. it was arm day and currently if i flex it feels like my skin is going to rip off. the pump is absolutely insane. my workout partner ended up sitting there watching me because i didnt want to leave. i cant wait for chest day this week

[dollerbill]

i just started the 3rd week 2 days ago and today it all hit me like WOW. it was arm day and currently if i flex it feels like my skin is going to rip off. the pump is absolutely insane. my workout partner ended up sitting there watching me because i didnt want to leave. i cant wait for chest day this week
Did it just hit you when you started week 3?

And OP, you're up to what, day 20? You feel like that ^ ?

Today is day 14 for me and I still haven't really felt anything yet, just checking in with everyone else and seeing everybody's progress...

[slimwealthy1]

i just started the 3rd week 2 days ago and today it all hit me like WOW. it was arm day and currently if i flex it feels like my skin is going to rip off. the pump is absolutely insane. my workout partner ended up sitting there watching me because i didnt want to leave. i cant wait for chest day this week

Yea i started to get this feeling on arm day around day 13-14.

[SICKNOUZA]

Did it just hit you when you started week 3?

And OP, you're up to what, day 20? You feel like that ^ ?

Today is day 14 for me and I still haven't really felt anything yet, just checking in with everyone else and seeing everybody's progress...

i could notice small effects starting in the 2nd week. i had a rest day 2 days into my 3rd week and the workout after that i could really notice huge effects.

[wutsrealgood]

i just started the 3rd week 2 days ago and today it all hit me like WOW. it was arm day and currently if i flex it feels like my skin is going to rip off. the pump is absolutely insane. my workout partner ended up sitting there watching me because i didnt want to leave. i cant wait for chest day this week


Did it just hit you when you started week 3?

And OP, you're up to what, day 20? You feel like that ^ ?

Today is day 14 for me and I still haven't really felt anything yet, just checking in with everyone else and seeing everybody's progress...


i could notice small effects starting in the 2nd week. i had a rest day 2 days into my 3rd week and the workout after that i could really notice huge effects.

I felt some strength increases Day 19 on my bench press, Day 20 was today and I had an alright lift with my shoulders..

I strained my left bicep so I cant go so hard on arms, and the pain is now around my armpit/pec area so Im changing my workout away from arnolds. My body def wants to lift alot more weight but his workout is mainly for size and lifting heavy on it is only leading to injury since my muscles are never really healed.

The splits are just too awkward for me and puts too much strain on my biceps which I'm not used to lifitng much with anyway. Im going back to my old workout just with about the same rep range ~8.

That would be-
Day 1 Chest/Tri's
Day 2 Legs
Day 3 Shoulders/Traps
Day 4 Back/Bi's
Day 5 off
Repeat

That should lead to workouts around 45mins to an hr instead of 1.5 to 2 hrs and my musles should have ample time to recover.

[wutsrealgood]

Day19 (239lbs +9)
Hdrol 100mgs

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 255x10, 275x8, 305x4*
Incline- 225x9, 8, 8
Pullover- 95x10,10,10
Lat Pulldown- 180x12, 200x8, 8 (superset with Reverse Grip)
Bent Rows- 275x10, 285x8, 295x6
Crunches- 20,20,15

I felt the Hdrol starting to kick in on my sets on bench 255 felt really light for 10 and I usually start 235-245, and 275 for 8 is usually a struggle but felt like clock work. 305 for 4 was ok getting up but my pec was slightly strained from going to extreme close gripping before.

Day 20 (239.6 +9.6)
Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Shoulder Press- 205x10, 215x7, 225x4*
Upright Row- 135x10, 145x8, 145x7
Lat Raise- 25x10,8,8
Shrugs- 375x15,15,15
Stand Tri Ext- 95x10,10,10

My biceps been slightly hurt, but getting better. Clean and presses seem light but it agitates my bi's too much that I had to cut them out. I'm going back to my old workout to make my workouts shorter and more time to rest my muscles.

On arnolds workout it seems like you're working everymuscle every day except legs and they dont heal. It would be good to just lift light and get some size but my bodies telling me to go heavy so ima go heavy :D

Also, I havent been having any more diareah I figured out it was from drinking too much liquids protein too fast before I lift (2 cups egg whites at once) so I added to slices of bread and drink a cup at a time. I also eat my meals slower in the day and I think my weights gonna start to shoot up.

Cliffs
-Hdol's Kicking (I think)
-Going Back to My old routine to minimize injuries
-Solved My Diarea issues
-Almost up 10lbs and bout to start reppin 315!! (i hope)
-No sides

[wutsrealgood]

I was planning on bumping up to 125mgs tomorrow til the end, but may give 100mgs a shot this week since I felt the drol kicking a bit. Then I could bump to 125mgs weeks 5 and 6 or maybe even 150 week 6. I've seen people run it this high on other sites without many problems.

I realize now that my previous cycles in the past of dymethazine, tren, and supremacy+mass tabs may have been stronger compounds than the drol so I may have been expecting too much of it for a solo compound on a bulk.

It's not too bad because I feel the gains will be easy to keep with minimal shut down. It kind of just got my feet wet so when I recover in a few months I'll be hitting up mdrol to finish up the bulking job.

[wutsrealgood]

I'm only going to be posting summaries of my lifts because I have to start studying for a law enforcement exam in two weeks, so I hope no one minds. It's also a lot to read through posting every single lift.


Hdrol- 125 mgs

Day 21 (239.7 + 9.7)
-Up to 125 mgs, 75 preworkout am, 50 12 hrs later b4 bed
-Took a rest day to gather myself and start my new split

Day 22 (240.4 + 10.4)
-Leg Day Finally broke 240 (+10 gain in weight) :)
-Started ATG Squats
-Felt great pump was able to get 3 extra reps at 295 (6 total)
-Ended at 315 for 3

No sides

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol- 125 mgs
Day 23 (240, +10lbs)
I just did my shoulders today, and they felt really pumped. Instead of doing clean and presses I did seated military press on a flat bench. It was a little awkard which got me agitated, but once I got the blood flowing, I was good.

-No Sides, except a bit tired (need a little coffee to get lift going)
-Mood/Joints good

[mikehoncho22]

Still watching this dude, looks like things are going good.

[wutsrealgood]

Still watching this dude, looks like things are going good.

Thanks bro!

[wutsrealgood]

Day 24 (241, +11)
Hdrol 125 mg

Today I did back and Ive never been so pumped.. The hdrols really hit me and the weight really started feeling lighter which Ive been waiting for lol.. I was doing weight I usually do for 8 reps for about 12, and I did 4 sets instead of 3. I was much more vascular and feel i'll make some great gains now on my old workout.

-Sides- Lathargy Waking Up, 1 or 2 pimples
-Mood- Feeling good

Ive been drinking so much water I usually wake up 3 or 4 times throughout the night to pee. Do you guys have any ideas how to stop this like should I just stop drinking water after like 7 o'clock? It's not like I chug water before bed either.

[mikehoncho22]

Day 24 (241, +11)
Hdrol 125 mg

Today I did back and Ive never been so pumped.. The hdrols really hit me and the weight really started feeling lighter which Ive been waiting for lol.. I was doing weight I usually do for 8 reps for about 12, and I did 4 sets instead of 3. I was much more vascular and feel i'll make some great gains now on my old workout.

-Sides- Lathargy Waking Up, 1 or 2 pimples
-Mood- Feeling good

Ive been drinking so much water I usually wake up 3 or 4 times throughout the night to pee. Do you guys have any ideas how to stop this like should I just stop drinking water after like 7 o'clock? It's not like I chug water before bed either.

hmmm if i got up to piss in the middle of the night id take another casein shake lol!

[Guy187]

Watching too. Same thing with water happens to me brah. I just deal with it. It sucks, and sometimes even hurts like hell. LOL But, I guess it is what it is.

[wutsrealgood]

hmmm if i got up to piss in the middle of the night id take another casein shake lol!

Thanks actually a good idea.. I take a shake before bed and its more like pudding cuz I dont want to piss even more.


Watching too. Same thing with water happens to me brah. I just deal with it. It sucks, and sometimes even hurts like hell. LOL But, I guess it is what it is.

hahah thats true, the cold weather makes me go more too.. I feel like a damn old man

[jlm25]

I would just stop drinking water about an hour or two before you go to bed..it would help avoid urinating throughout the night. I probably would've gone with a stronger compound for a bulk. hdrol gains are good for first time users, but there are much better stuff out there :)

[wutsrealgood]

I would just stop drinking water about an hour or two before you go to bed..it would help avoid urinating throughout the night. I probably would've gone with a stronger compound for a bulk. hdrol gains are good for first time users, but there are much better stuff out there :)

Thanks man I'll try that! But ya I found that out with Hdrol after buying 3 bottles on sale lol.. I just figured since I havent used any ph in over two years I'll try squeezing out some gains with this.. Then wait a few months and do something stronger.

[scrossmaggard]

keep it up brother

[wutsrealgood]

keep it up brother

thanks bro, Im following urs too

[wutsrealgood]

Day 25 (242+ 12)

I did my chest workout today, and was able to get 2 more reps on my last set of bench. Pump was Great.

Day 26 (243.3 +13.3)

Today was the day after Thanksgiving so I was bloated the morning. I did legs and got it for 5 times when I only did it 3 ATG last workout. My back pumps were killing me towards the end of the workout and I cut down on my sets of SLDL's.

Day 27 (243.6 +13.6)

I kept my weight up since Thanksgiving, so I am happy about that. I've been getting in about 5,300 clean calories a day plus a snack or to that I see throughout the day so that puts me up to about 6k cals daily. I've noticed a bit more stomach fat, and a bloated feeling after eating a large breakfast.

Day 28 (243.8+ 13.8)

Today was shoulders and I had a solid pump I could really feel in my shoulders. I'm almost +15 which I'm very happy about. The last few days I've been feeling a little tired throughout the day which could be some of the drol or just it being winter time.

Cliffs
-Weight Gain +13.8 since start
-Strength Up 2 or more reps from last workout
-Moods good, feeling slightly tired but maybe from winter
-No other sides except maybe a pimple every few days

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 125 mg

Day 29 (244, +14)
Today was back day. Reps and weights are still increasing. My left bicep seems to have almost healed, but I am still careful about the lifts I do since some still strain it.

Day 30 (244.4 +14.4)
Rest Day. I'm almost at 245 which is probably what I have wished for. Im getting sick of eating so much rice chicken and beef, but will get with it. Hopefully I can hit 250 with a little less the two weeks I have left.

I thought about maybe bumping to 150mgs today to finish up the last week and half. So far I took 100mg's at once but I did feel my blood pressure rise which I never felt while taking 75 mgs at once. I'll either keep it at 150 for a few days but take 75 mg at a time and see how it goes or go back down to 125 which didnt seem bad at all.

Sides- One or two pimples, slightly tired, having trouble sleeping now when taking drol before bed so I will take a few hours before. Libido still strong.. I'm very happy sides have not been an issue yet

Cliffs-
-Same pump, increased reps and weights
-Almost 245 (+15 from start)
-Logging is such a pain :)
-Same little sides (acne) but now trouble sleeping

On a side note did any one else who took hdrol notice that their dreams seem so much more realistic lol

[scrossmaggard]

My dreams are lifelike

[slimwealthy1]

looking good man. 150mg, that's nuts haha. My dreams have been crazy for the last 11 weeks. First the drol made them realistic as hell, and now the nolva is too. The nolva makes them more intense and sometimes they can actually affect the way i feel for a few hours once i wake up. I will there was a pill i could take that would make me have dreams about boning hot chicks every night

[wutsrealgood]

150 is pretty nuts so I just wanted to see it cuz I've heard about some people going that high but not many have logged it so if Im gonna try it I mine as well log it..

bout those dreams hahah i know exactly how you guys feel bro... my dreams are so weird.. i had a dream i was driving a round a long twisty road going up a mountain.. and next thing i know theres a snake in the middle of the road and I woke up like AH and my gf started laughin at me.. the next night I already knew it was going to be a wacky dream so I just said NO outloud and woke up.. thats never happened to me, cant wait to see wut the nolva brings

[swimmer32]

Sounds like great progress! Any idea how much of your weight gain is muscle vs fat?

[wutsrealgood]

Sounds like great progress! Any idea how much of your weight gain is muscle vs fat?

it be hard for me to judge, but by the end of my cycle you'll see the after pics.. Hopefully there'll be a more noticeable increase in size.. But without measuriing I'd say I gained about 1% or 2% bodyfat.. I still have a fourpack, but I do feel more fat on top. Roughly i'd hope ~8lbs muscle, ~4 fat, ~2 added water (~14lb increase)

[wutsrealgood]

On a side note, I was on a tv show on TruTV: Aztec Pool Party at the Shore. Here's some clips of it here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGUcPpGiMZk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH5ythSvNUQ&feature=channel

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol back down to 125

Day 31 (244.4, +14.4)

I weighed the same as yesterday but seemed more dehydrated from bumping to 150mgs. I still felt same amount of bodyfat over my abs but you could see them alot more once i got my pump going. I took 100mgs before my lift in the morning and did chest.

My chest workout was about the same as last's even tho last week I had a spotter at the house that time. It was frustrating lifting alone and with it raining the last two days, I was not in the upbeat mood as usual. I think i strain my muscles when I unrack and rack the weight when i bench alone since i usually have a lift off prior to this cycle. The other week my left armpit was sore after a chest day and today my right armpit seems a little sore already.

Cliffs-
-Started this cycle doing 275 for 5 and got 275 for 10 flat bench
-Almost plus 15
-Going back to 125 b/c 150 felt like a lot for now

[wutsrealgood]

Day 32 (244.4, + 14.4)
Today was legs and I did an extra set of squats and lunges. I also did SLDL's off the floor instead of on a box and 225 felt about a 1000x lighters.

Day 33(244.4, 14.4)
Today's usually a rest day, but I felt pumped to do shoulders so what the hell lol I was able to go up some weight in my seated militaries so I was happy.

On a side note, I went to the dr today and he took blood to test since i told him bout my diareah problem i've had a while bak. so looks like there may be some interesting results cuz of hdrol maybe?

I dont like seeing 244.4 everyday on the scale for like the last week, so Im thinking my gains have really tapered out and I'm not feeling much stronger on the drol so I think I may end it at a 5 week cycle.. I wasnt too impressed with hdrol in the strength department although Ive had my muscles strains which may have affected that. I'm happy with my size/weight gains that I will post w/ my final pics after tomorrrow.

PCT
Nolva- 20/20/10/10
Formadrol- 4/3/2/1
Z force (trib/ldopa/zma)- x/6/6/6

[wutsrealgood]

my hdrol dosing ending up being 75/100/125/125/125 so its not confusing going through posts

[boost_me1]

my hdrol dosing ending up being 75/100/125/125/125 so its not confusing going through posts

Damn dude, thats a LOT. Excited to see some bloodwork of this once its done :D How much milk thistle are you taking per day btw? I'm taking about 4-5 grams, on top of my liver support.

[wutsrealgood]

Damn dude, thats a LOT. Excited to see some bloodwork of this once its done :D How much milk thistle are you taking per day btw? I'm taking about 4-5 grams, on top of my liver support.

haha yea not many blood results around here so i'll be interested too.. will see it next week:)

and ive been taking cycle assist which has about 1000mg + liv52 which doesnt have any milk thistle but other liver supports

[pwicks83]

Wow, 125 mgs in one day. Do you get bad back pumps from it. When I was taking 100mgs a day I would get minor head aches and some back pumps.

[dmi888pay]

haha yea not many blood results around here so i'll be interested too.. will see it next week:)

and ive been taking cycle assist which has about 1000mg + liv52 which doesnt have any milk thistle but other liver supports

Sounds like a waste of money and liver to get such little results that can be attained naturally

[wutsrealgood]

Sounds like a waste of money and liver to get such little results that can be attained naturally

its pretty cool u say that before i post my final results and blood results, go bash someone else's log *******

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 125

Day 34 (245.2 + 15.2)

I decided to finish my workout week that ends with back before doing pct. I had a nice pump and looking forward to posting final results/pics today.

Day 35 (245 +15)

Today is day 1 of my pct so I hope to hold on to my gains which I am pleased with.

[wutsrealgood]

HDROL 5 weeks

75/100/125/125/125

Weight Started 230, ended 245= 15 lb gain
Body fat about same maybe a little less.

Beginning/Ending Lifts (Main Lifts)

Bench- 275 for 5....305 for 5
Incline- 225 for 6....235 for 10
Close- 205 for 6....225 for 10
Shoulder Press- 185 for 6....215 for 5
ATG Squats- 275 for 6....315 for 5

Pics from Beginning, Middle, End

Front
http://i53.tinypic.com/1g3iio.jpg

Side
http://i54.tinypic.com/105ce3o.jpg

Back
http://i52.tinypic.com/j9ookk.jpg

[wutsrealgood]

Back Double Bi's
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cpcaki.jpg

Angled
http://i54.tinypic.com/5edca0.jpg

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http://i56.tinypic.com/20sucfl.jpg

[wutsrealgood]

Wow, 125 mgs in one day. Do you get bad back pumps from it. When I was taking 100mgs a day I would get minor head aches and some back pumps.

i took taurine preworkout mid and post, so they werent that bad except on leg day.. front squats were really hard to do along with sldls

[kpytou]

Not bad. Looks like a solid 15 lbs in 5 weeks. I wouldnt complain. Anything you would do differently? I just started week 4 at 75mg

[wutsrealgood]

Not bad. Looks like a solid 15 lbs in 5 weeks. I wouldnt complain. Anything you would do differently? I just started week 4 at 75mg

i wouldnt have added so much volume in the beginnin of my cycle and waitin more til weeks 3 and 4 where i felt i got my best gains..

its a great first ph for someone to start off with, but ive already done a few so i would have either chose something stronger or stacked hdrol with another compound.

good luck!

[wutsrealgood]

the nurse just called and left a message saying that my blood results were unremarkable and everything looks fine, i never got blood done before the cycle so i guess theres not much to compare, but if people are interested in seein the results i'll try gettin a copy so i can post