View Full Version : At 10% BF, cannot hit any lower, ECA stack?
Majortom420
09-23-2010, 04:39 AM
Currently I'm taking Animal Cuts which is ephedrine free however due to a lot of research, I've discovered this will probably help significantly for my fat loss plus HIIT.
Has anyone here safely combined Animal Cuts and ECA? Given that Caffiene is already in animal cuts but I'm kinda worried I might get the jitters..
I don't have a history of heart disease or a heart condition, no one in my family does. Would appreciate some input.
edit: I've also been taking Carnivor protein for the past month and thinking of switching back to isoflex
Emma-Leigh
09-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Currently I'm taking Animal Cuts which is ephedrine free however due to a lot of research, I've discovered this will probably help significantly for my fat loss plus HIIT.
Has anyone here safely combined Animal Cuts and ECA? Given that Caffiene is already in animal cuts but I'm kinda worried I might get the jitters..
I don't have a history of heart disease or a heart condition, no one in my family does. Would appreciate some input.
edit: I've also been taking Carnivor protein for the past month and thinking of switching back to isoflexThe type of protein you take doesn't matter in the context of your whole diet. So as long as the cals/ macros are 'right' you'll be fine with what ever you choose.
For the supplements - stop the animal cuts and simplify things.
E + C, at the end of the day, would probably be enough. Y can also help when you really want to get yourself lean.... And L-tyrosine may also be of benefit.
paradoxman
09-27-2010, 07:19 AM
Currently I'm taking Animal Cuts which is ephedrine free however due to a lot of research, I've discovered this will probably help significantly for my fat loss plus HIIT.
Has anyone here safely combined Animal Cuts and ECA? Given that Caffiene is already in animal cuts but I'm kinda worried I might get the jitters..
I don't have a history of heart disease or a heart condition, no one in my family does. Would appreciate some input.
edit: I've also been taking Carnivor protein for the past month and thinking of switching back to isoflex
I would not take Animal Cuts + ECA, choose one. EC is way more potent and works faster. Animal Cuts has a whole bunch of ingredients in it that are designed to duplicate the effectiveness of ephedrine, while being legal. So in other words you don't need both, choose one or the other.
kodyt21
10-03-2010, 04:35 PM
Currently I'm taking Animal Cuts which is ephedrine free however due to a lot of research, I've discovered this will probably help significantly for my fat loss plus HIIT.
Has anyone here safely combined Animal Cuts and ECA? Given that Caffiene is already in animal cuts but I'm kinda worried I might get the jitters..
I don't have a history of heart disease or a heart condition, no one in my family does. Would appreciate some input.
edit: I've also been taking Carnivor protein for the past month and thinking of switching back to isoflex
Agree with the rest of them , E/C/Y"yohimbine hcl" is what got me in the single digits along with clean low carb diet. Animal cuts was AMAZING when it had the ephedrine , sadly they have dulled it down so much it cant even be considered a fat burner anymore or thermogenic I had no effect from 3 cans what so ever. I had GREAT results from vpx clenbutrx it is very hardcore but the true winner of them all E/C/Y just hard to get your hands on the real ephedrine hcl anymore best bet is bronkaid at wegmans .walgreens otc you can get it.
Majortom420
10-12-2010, 05:19 PM
Just thought I'd update this thread. ECA-Y stack has had some of the best results ever. I've pretty much blasted right through my plateau.
Cape1
10-12-2010, 06:03 PM
When you're stuck at a certain bodyfat like that, it's probably your diet/training that are the chief culprits. Are you still loosing weight and just not seeing your composition improve? Or, have you just stopped loosing weight alltogether? Important question.
Most people with discipline can get to 10-15% body fat. Getting single digits is different though. YOu need to really make sure that you're keeping the muscles fed properly and that may go against the "less is better" mentality people have with respect to dieting. Macro nutrient timing, food choices, the right type of cardio progression and weight Training volume, even recovery paterns, all become much bigger factors than they were 5-10 digits of BF ago when you could pretty much wing-it and make progress...
My point is that just tossing ECA into the mix may not even make sense. You're suggesting that you already know the problem is calorie level and by just creating a sharper deficit through the use of a thermo you will reach the Promise Land. You migh; then again, you might not. My money is on the later. I would be willing to bet that it's not the caloric level but, rather, the overall picture that probably needs tweaking. You're right there.
Keep in mind that your first priority at this point (assuming you are in fact 10% bf and not "bb.com-10% BF") is not fat loss - it's muscle retention. Dont just arbitrarily increase your calorie deficit.
HighwaytoHell7
10-13-2010, 10:14 AM
Just thought I'd update this thread. ECA-Y stack has had some of the best results ever. I've pretty much blasted right through my plateau.
Awesome, glad to hear this.
Wasn't really at a plateau but just added EC stack and hoping to get cut even faster. I read in a couple studies it lowers the percentage of muscle loss so that's the main reason I'm throwing it in.
Bryanc182
10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
E/c/y....what is that? What are the best brands to take? Sorry, Ima newbie to training.
fireballer25
10-21-2010, 07:23 AM
I am currently taking ec (200-400 mg C and 25 ephedrine hcl) per dose. I would like to add yohimbe hcl to the stack. What dose of yohimbe hcl should I use? Thanks!
PeZzYy
10-21-2010, 10:24 AM
Lost 6lbs 1st week on cuts and thats all through the whole cycle I was mad I wanted my money back.... I figure it was only water weight and I was mad cause I was only 163.... Animal Cuts use only if you want to get rid of excess water weight... if you want to get rid of more fat go hydroxy cut..... also a tip when you take the 2nd pack of pills during they day depending what time take out the rep pill cause thats the caffeine unless you wanna be jumping walls at night...
GL BRAH
acchoi
10-23-2010, 04:10 PM
Just thought I'd update this thread. ECA-Y stack has had some of the best results ever. I've pretty much blasted right through my plateau.
thanx for the great motivation. I have been on a sever plateau using animal cuts and switched to EC Stack a few days ago. I hope it will also work out for me =). However is the Y necessary?
LightCrow
10-25-2010, 08:22 AM
I am currently taking ec (200-400 mg C and 25 ephedrine hcl) per dose. I would like to add yohimbe hcl to the stack. What dose of yohimbe hcl should I use? Thanks!
Either stick to yohimbe and caffeine first thing in the morning 4 hours before your first dose of EC later in the day, or don't worry about yohimbe at all. You definitely don't want to combine ephederine and yohimbe at the same time.
DaTruth1
10-31-2010, 07:58 PM
EC+a **** ton of w-3's makes a good weightloss stack.