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[Nitric Oxide]

Hi, over the past few years that I've been on this site, I've noticed there is a significant amount of people that are either working in the IT field, striving to do so or people looking for information about IT so I figured it would be appropriate to dedicate a thread to it considering we have a Science and Technology forum now.

Myself, I have a degree in IT and I've spent quite a bit of time gathering technical knowledge about various aspects of IT for the past 5 years or so. I work in the computer networking side of things but I also know a lot about security and systems administration.

I'm always willing to talk about IT or to try and fix computer problems so if you have questions then feel free to ask.

I really don't know what else to include in this OP other then I know there's a lot of other posters out there that are involved in IT so go ahead and identify yourselves :)

[EasTexan]

I think you've already been beat to the idea: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126025463 Kinda.

[Nitric Oxide]

I think you've already been beat to the idea: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126025463 Kinda.

Ya I saw that and posted in there but the way the title was written seems to limit the discussion to programming which is why I made this thread to broaden the horizons.

[mehldau]

i'm a student studying IT, i plan on graduating next spring. there are so many different types of IT specializations out there, i'm not really sure what direction i should/want to take

[EasTexan]

Ya I saw that and posted in there but the way the title was written seems to limit the discussion to programming which is why I made this thread to broaden the horizons.
Ah ok, fair enough. I'll just post in both! :D

[Nitric Oxide]

i'm a student studying IT, i plan on graduating next spring. there are so many different types of IT specializations out there, i'm not really sure what direction i should/want to take

ya I hear ya on that one lol... I was in the same predicament when I graduated. At least you realize that you need to pick a route though. Most people that graduate don't really know how to approach the job market after school and they keep their skillset too broad. Broad enough that they don't know enough about any particular sub-field to land job.

Have you looked at jobs on careerbuilder or monster? Is there any particular job within IT you would consider ideal?

[mehldau]

ya I hear ya on that one lol... I was in the same predicament when I graduated. At least you realize that you need to pick a route though. Most people that graduate don't really know how to approach the job market after school and they keep their skillset too broad. Broad enough that they don't know enough about any particular sub-field to land job.

Have you looked at jobs on careerbuilder or monster? Is there any particular job within IT you would consider ideal?

i've looked around a little bit. i don't think i would want to be a web designer or DBA. networking/security/auditing seems like it might be interesting, but i haven't taken those classes yet so i'm not quite sure how much i will actually end up liking it. one of the main concerns i have is that it seems like the things we are taught in school are so basic and useless, that they won't be nearly enough to land a job upon graduation.

[Idontlikeit]

Haven't start my upper courses yet but I think i'm pretty set on with this major, Information System. Going to minor in Marketing just in case.

[Nitric Oxide]

i've looked around a little bit. i don't think i would want to be a web designer or DBA. networking/security/auditing seems like it might be interesting, but i haven't taken those classes yet so i'm not quite sure how much i will actually end up liking it. one of the main concerns i have is that it seems like the things we are taught in school are so basic and useless, that they won't be nearly enough to land a job upon graduation.

Hopefully by the time you graduate you'll feel more confident about your skills. The classes might seem useless or basic because they might be low level intro classes. Once you get into some higher level classes you should have a better grasp of what's out there, how things work and you'll be able to put everything you learned into perspective. I do know what you're saying though about classes seeming to be basic or not relevent enough to get a job. The problem is that IT covers a lot of different jobs and a degree is only going to be able to cover the intro to each respective route. Even the higher level classes are essentially intro classes in terms of introducing databases, networking, administration or whatever the subject may be because there's not enough time in a degree to focus on anything in particular. Realistically, in order to fully master some of those jobs, they could almost be degrees by themselves. Some degrees might have concentrations but even those usually don't scratch the surface of the actual field. In the end, most, if not all IT degrees alone will not secure you a job after school. A degree might get you a job, but it won't secure you one. There's no guarantee.

Getting job experience is pretty important because job experience teaches you how to do things, whereas college teaches you about things. In other words, there's a difference between doing and knowing something. I'll use the example of creating a small computer network. School might teach you all the technical jargon about a network and how it works but they probably won't teach you how to set one up and configure it. That's the difference between knowing and doing something and when you go to get a job, most interviewers are going to be concerned with what you can do, not what you know. I'd suggest you try to get some experience before you graduate. When you're looking for an internship or entry level job, the most important thing you should consider is how much you're going to be able to learn there. My personal opinion is that advancing yourself and learning is more important than pay for entry level jobs.

Unless you're one of the select few that knows a lot and can really bypass the job experience barrier cuz you're just good like that, you're going to be stuck with the infamous paradox all college students face. If jobs require job experience, then how the hell do you get one in the first place? You'll either have to start low on the ladder and work your way up or you can do your best to try and fabricate job experience in your own time so that you won't have to start so low. Practice doing things in your spare time. If you want to be a DBA, then go out there and install some databases on your computer. Make database tables, run queries, configure the database etc... don't just read about things, do them.

If you find you can't land a job through sheer knowledge (this is my approach) then the only other alternative is to rely on social networking. Go to workshops, meet other professionals and go to career fairs. In short, I'll say I don't prefer this route but it's definitely a viable option for some people.

[TheAustrianOak]

i'm a network analyst and thinking of changing fields from IT to something completely different. there is a lot bull**** that come with working in IT that you don't really hear about. off the top of my head:
-lower pay compared to other positions in the company that have a smaller work load (sales, etc.)
-long hours
-a high percentage of positions come with an on call responsbility, so you take the job home with you if **** goes sour
-generally underappreciated by other departments in the company
-you are expected to keep up to date with current tech/trends. the stuff you learned in school will be outdated in 5 years (obviously some exceptions to this, as certain programming languages never die)

some days it isn't so bad, but some days are horrible. if it wasn't for the other people in my department that i actually enjoy working with, or the fact that i need a steady paycheck to survive, i would have quit by now

this is not the first company i have worked for either

[kenonator]

i'm a network analyst and thinking of changing fields from IT to something completely different. there is a lot bull**** that come with working in IT that you don't really hear about. off the top of my head:
-lower pay compared to other positions in the company that have a smaller work load (sales, etc.)
-long hours
-a high percentage of positions come with an on call responsbility, so you take the job home with you if **** goes sour
-generally underappreciated by other departments in the company
-you are expected to keep up to date with current tech/trends. the stuff you learned in school will be outdated in 5 years (obviously some exceptions to this, as certain programming languages never die)

some days it isn't so bad, but some days are horrible. if it wasn't for the other people in my department that i actually enjoy working with, or the fact that i need a steady paycheck to survive, i would have quit by now

this is not the first company i have worked for either

I have noticed some of these things as well, however if you have the right skill sets you should be able to make bank based on the things you have stated. Also if your a good admin you really shouldn't need to go in off hours unless something like whole raid array just magically breaks.

[Lemonade727]

I plan on going back to school next year (current work situation won't allow for it for fall enrollment), unsure whether I should try to go for a Bachelor's in Computer Science or Computer Engineering. Is there really a large difference in employment opportunities if I choose one over the other?

And since I'm unable to return to school this year I'm currently working on establishing some IT certifications to help build my resume while I'm working towards my degree. I'm starting with A+, Network+, and Security+ and striving to have them before year's end since they'll be considered lifetime certifications if I complete the exams before Dec 31st since CompTIA decided to change their recertification policy so newcomers after the end of this year are required to recertify every 3 years.

Are there any certifications in particular that I should work towards after these 3? Unsure if Microsoft's MCSE would help or if I should try to jump straight towards CCNA?

[J1n]

i went to school for IT. got a AAS degree in networking.

i work in IT project management though. started off travelling doing networking stuff but then after the project was over i landed a Project coordinator position. i was dealing with very very BIG projects that dealt with sites all across the country and some international. So, many group were involved. my group was incharge of the network side of it (circuits, cabling, switches, workstations, etc). i have like a good 30k worth on network equipment at my desk right now lol.

Im starting a new job in a week as a technical project manager under the same company. its in a totally different branch so i will be doing more server / storage stuff at a data center.

[samh16]

i went to school for IT. got a AAS degree in networking.

i work in IT project management though. started off travelling doing networking stuff but then after the project was over i landed a Project coordinator position. i was dealing with very very BIG projects that dealt with sites all across the country and some international. So, many group were involved. my group was incharge of the network side of it (circuits, cabling, switches, workstations, etc). i have like a good 30k worth on network equipment at my desk right now lol.

Im starting a new job in a week as a technical project manager under the same company. its in a totally different branch so i will be doing more server / storage stuff at a data center.

Wanna gimme a job brah?

Will rep. lulz

[J1n]

Wanna gimme a job brah?

Will rep. lulz

Location: Dublin, Ireland

The equipment is property of the US goverment so i dont think so... lol

[samh16]

Location: Dublin, Ireland

The equipment is property of the US goverment so i dont think so... lol

You had to go and burst my bubble didn't you?

[whyumadson]

looking into information technology also. Recommend 2 year degree or 4 yr?

[J1n]

You had to go and burst my bubble didn't you?

lol sorry brah


looking into information technology also. Recommend 2 year degree or 4 yr?

4 yr. i only have a 2 yr and regret not getting a BS. im trying to make up for it with certifications and experience though. i will probably get back to school and get my bs but i dont have time right now.

[AceFiasco]

Information Systems (or CIS as it's commonly referred to) is more about running and maintaining servers and databases. if you like networks and network security that's probably your thing. Computer Science, on the other hand, is about solving problems with algorithms that are later implemented as computer programs. You can do almost anything in computer science.

CIS jobs are easily outsourced. It really doesn't take a degree to run a network, so some dude in India can easily do it. Computer Science is also outsourced to an extent...but the better you are the more job security you have.

Start at the lowest CS course your school has. The first "basic programming" class. Even if it doesn't count for the major, take it anyway. That's where I got my foundation and I've done well in CS. Also start teaching yourself now the language you'll be using next semester. You'll be way ahead of the curve if you do.

[Lemonade727]

Information Systems (or CIS as it's commonly referred to) is more about running and maintaining servers and databases. if you like networks and network security that's probably your thing. Computer Science, on the other hand, is about solving problems with algorithms that are later implemented as computer programs. You can do almost anything in computer science.

CIS jobs are easily outsourced. It really doesn't take a degree to run a network, so some dude in India can easily do it. Computer Science is also outsourced to an extent...but the better you are the more job security you have.

Start at the lowest CS course your school has. The first "basic programming" class. Even if it doesn't count for the major, take it anyway. That's where I got my foundation and I've done well in CS. Also start teaching yourself now the language you'll be using next semester. You'll be way ahead of the curve if you do.

Sounds good. Yea I figured I would have a safer bet learning something software based going in for CS, it seems like I could get a lot of the CIS fields covered by certifications as I know the majority of network admins at my current location had no educational or real experience backgrounds, but had Net+ and Security+ certifications to back them up. But looks like my gut was right with this one on leaning towards CS.

I've been keeping brushed up on my math skills as well so that should help out a bit.

[6-SPEED]

Good thread, I got started in IT while active duty in the Air Force. Learned most of the basics for computer networking and managing long distance circuits. I don't consider myself a nerd or anything like that but I enjoy IT because it's something that can be self-taught.

[specone]

I plan on going back to school next year (current work situation won't allow for it for fall enrollment), unsure whether I should try to go for a Bachelor's in Computer Science or Computer Engineering. Is there really a large difference in employment opportunities if I choose one over the other?

They have similarities but are different fields.

Computer engineering lies at the interface of computer science and electrical engineering - so a major aspect of the field is in the physics of computing. That would be the design of computer systems at the level of circuitry and signal processing.

Computer science is more about solving problems using computers and the use of different technologies and methods for doing so.

There are many jobs for which either degree is significant experience. However, a computer engineer could find a job designing computer hardware where as a computer science grad could not. A computer science grad might have an easier time finding a job in software development.

[Evolutionary1]

i went to school for IT. got a AAS degree in networking.

i work in IT project management though. started off travelling doing networking stuff but then after the project was over i landed a Project coordinator position. i was dealing with very very BIG projects that dealt with sites all across the country and some international. So, many group were involved. my group was incharge of the network side of it (circuits, cabling, switches, workstations, etc). i have like a good 30k worth on network equipment at my desk right now lol.

Im starting a new job in a week as a technical project manager under the same company. its in a totally different branch so i will be doing more server / storage stuff at a data center.

did you go to ecpi brah?

[dcballer]

i went to school for IT. got a AAS degree in networking.

i work in IT project management though. started off travelling doing networking stuff but then after the project was over i landed a Project coordinator position. i was dealing with very very BIG projects that dealt with sites all across the country and some international. So, many group were involved. my group was incharge of the network side of it (circuits, cabling, switches, workstations, etc). i have like a good 30k worth on network equipment at my desk right now lol.

Im starting a new job in a week as a technical project manager under the same company. its in a totally different branch so i will be doing more server / storage stuff at a data center.

Awesome! Where did you get your AAS from? NOVA?

[dcballer]

I am about to finish my Associate Degree in IT at a Community College. Next fall I will transfer to George Mason and work on my Bachelor in IT. I am interested in Networking and security. I am planning to get an Internship asap.

[Galvatorex]

I could really use a PC repair job in PA, i can fix em and anything that goes wrong with em just not networking wise

[J1n]

did you go to ecpi brah?


Awesome! Where did you get your AAS from? NOVA?

lol no i went to ITT tech. my credits from that school dont transfer but i did a 1.5 yrs at nova and wasnt that many credits away from getting an associates in general studies. i just got so fed up with the classes and it feeling like a high school. only classes that interested me was the IT classes so i said fuk it and checked out ITT and decided to go. so all i need is a few more credits and i can go to mason or something to finish my bs.

ppl look down on that school but i went and learned everything i needed to know and after i finished from there i got a job pretty quick and made good money pretty quickly. first job was the travel gig and i was making 75k. my base salary was 40k but you just rack up so many hours just doing nothing. sitting on a plane, sitting in my hotel room, driving, etc.

also once you get into the field and start working you quickly realize how many dumb fuks there are in positions they are not even close to being qualified for. all you need to do is get in and just network and make ppl like you and they will hook you up with good jobs if they can. my current manager knew i did good work and knew i wanted to move up but had no positions under him so he basically went to all the other managers and gave em my resume with his recommendation. one stuck and i got my new tech project manager position.

[Nitric Oxide]

I could really use a PC repair job in PA, i can fix em and anything that goes wrong with em just not networking wise

If you have networking problems you can post them here. I work night shift fixing network problems. Not much goes on in the middle of the night besides posting in this thread lol

[Galvatorex]

If you have networking problems you can post them here. I work night shift fixing network problems. Not much goes on in the middle of the night besides posting in this thread lol

i mean i could use a job, as in a job hired ect.. :)

[Evolutionary1]

lol no i went to ITT tech. my credits from that school dont transfer but i did a 1.5 yrs at nova and wasnt that many credits away from getting an associates in general studies. i just got so fed up with the classes and it feeling like a high school. only classes that interested me was the IT classes so i said fuk it and checked out ITT and decided to go. so all i need is a few more credits and i can go to mason or something to finish my bs.

ppl look down on that school but i went and learned everything i needed to know and after i finished from there i got a job pretty quick and made good money pretty quickly. first job was the travel gig and i was making 75k. my base salary was 40k but you just rack up so many hours just doing nothing. sitting on a plane, sitting in my hotel room, driving, etc.

also once you get into the field and start working you quickly realize how many dumb fuks there are in positions they are not even close to being qualified for. all you need to do is get in and just network and make ppl like you and they will hook you up with good jobs if they can. my current manager knew i did good work and knew i wanted to move up but had no positions under him so he basically went to all the other managers and gave em my resume with his recommendation. one stuck and i got my new tech project manager position.

why you lol @ ecpi? thats where i go

[Nitric Oxide]

i mean i could use a job, as in a job hired ect.. :)

oh woops lol, I misread your post. I thought that's what you do but needed help on networking.

[J1n]

why you lol @ ecpi? thats where i go

not lolin at that. lolin at myself.

didnt even know what ecpi was bro. i goggled it to find out. srs

[Evolutionary1]

not lolin at that. lolin at myself.

didnt even know what ecpi was bro. i goggled it to find out. srs

oh word, its pretty similar to ITT. if anyone is serious about getting a job in this field, get certifications, then get some experience, then profit

[J1n]

oh word, its pretty similar to ITT. if anyone is serious about getting a job in this field, get certifications, then get some experience, then profit

Good sht dude. there are alot of jobs in our area. mostly jobs with companies that have contracts with the gov.

[someeh]

oh word, its pretty similar to ITT. if anyone is serious about getting a job in this field, get certifications, then get some experience, then profit

I agree! You NEED certifications to get in. I was going to college for my A.S but stopped. I was young and not wise as I am now back then.
I've heard of people getting B.S in Info tech and land jobs that pay 25k because they don't have the experience or certifications to get them good money. I've thought about going back to school but really too sure yet.
ATM I'm a IT manager for a non profit agency pursuing my MSCA 2k3 then bump up to 08. I'm aiming for the MSCE later on.
Currently got my N+, and MCP in XP with no college degree making pretty good money.
But if you want to get your foot in... degree isn't going to be enough.

[J1n]

I agree! You NEED certifications to get in. I was going to college for my A.S but stopped. I was young and not wise as I am now back then.
I've heard of people getting B.S in Info tech and land jobs that pay 25k because they don't have the experience or certifications to get them good money. I've thought about going back to school but really too sure yet.
ATM I'm a IT manager for a non profit agency pursuing my MSCA 2k3 then bump up to 08. I'm aiming for the MSCE later on.
Currently got my N+, and MCP in XP with no college degree making pretty good money.
But if you want to get your foot in... degree isn't going to be enough.

gotta disagree bout that. i got my foot in the door with just a degree and i still have only a degree + some experience. i havent gotten any certifications yet. i could probably go take the net+ and pass right now if i wanted to. degree helps out alot. and once you get your foot in the door its not hard to network and move up. but the best would be to have a degree + certifications + experience.

i plan on getting net+, security+, server+, ITILV3, and my PMP hopefully within the next year. net+ should be cake for me since i work alot with networking equipent and LAN / WAN infastructure designs.

[someeh]

gotta disagree bout that. i got my foot in the door with just a degree and i still have only a degree + some experience. i havent gotten any certifications yet. i could probably go take the net+ and pass right now if i wanted to. degree helps out alot. and once you get your foot in the door its not hard to network and move up. but the best would be to have a degree + certifications + experience.

i plan on getting net+, security+, server+, ITILV3, and my PMP hopefully within the next year. net+ should be cake for me since i work alot with networking equipent and LAN / WAN infastructure designs.


The downside now with the N+ or any Comptia cert is that after a # of yrs you have to retake, which isn't bad being that technology is always changing. I totally agree with degree and all others, just going on based on what others have told me and have encountered.

[J1n]

The downside now with the N+ or any Comptia cert is that after a # of yrs you have to retake, which isn't bad being that technology is always changing. I totally agree with degree and all others, just going on based on what others have told me and have encountered.

It doesnt expire after a certain amount of time. they do refresh tests when they feel that its needed. the Cisco ones like CCNA expire after a certain amount of time. and the PMP which is a project management one you have to get a certain amount of credits every year to keep it.

[Lemonade727]

It doesnt expire after a certain amount of time. they do refresh tests when they feel that its needed. the Cisco ones like CCNA expire after a certain amount of time. and the PMP which is a project management one you have to get a certain amount of credits every year to keep it.

Actually, after Dec 31st of this year, CompTIA is placing a 3-year re-certification mandate on their A+, Net+, and Sec+ certifications. If you receive the certifications before the end of the year then they will be classified as lifetime certifications, but anything after and you'll be re-certifying every 3 years. This reason is why I'm pushing those 3 to the top of my to-do list.

[J1n]

Actually, after Dec 31st of this year, CompTIA is placing a 3-year re-certification mandate on their A+, Net+, and Sec+ certifications. If you receive the certifications before the end of the year then they will be classified as lifetime certifications, but anything after and you'll be re-certifying every 3 years. This reason is why I'm pushing those 3 to the top of my to-do list.

oh wow did not know this. thanks for the info.

[Lemonade727]

oh wow did not know this. thanks for the info.

Np. But yea, if you're going to strive towards getting them now would be the time :)

[guitarwar241]

I'm graduating in December with my B.S. in IT and would like to do something with network security. What kind of certificates do you think I should get?

[guitarwar241]

Actually, after Dec 31st of this year, CompTIA is placing a 3-year re-certification mandate on their A+, Net+, and Sec+ certifications. If you receive the certifications before the end of the year then they will be classified as lifetime certifications, but anything after and you'll be re-certifying every 3 years. This reason is why I'm pushing those 3 to the top of my to-do list.

Wow, really? I should probably get these done ASAP then.

[zyx1337]

I am soon doing the MCITP course tests (first one : 60-780 windows 7 config)

anyone got tips on how to learn it? I want to be good and not just memorize the questions & answers!

[Nate2003]

Actually, after Dec 31st of this year, CompTIA is placing a 3-year re-certification mandate on their A+, Net+, and Sec+ certifications. If you receive the certifications before the end of the year then they will be classified as lifetime certifications, but anything after and you'll be re-certifying every 3 years. This reason is why I'm pushing those 3 to the top of my to-do list.

thanks man! I already have the A+ and Net+.. got the study material for Sec+ but haven't started yet..
appreciate the tip.. hopefully I'll have this covered before them

[OldeEnglish800]

I got A+ and Net+ back in 2004-05 in high school. Would those still be valid? The school I'm going to has an IT/IS program that is really business involved. They told me it combines IT/CIS/MIS into one. I don't know how useful that would be in the job world? I've always been into computers and IT but I don't like how sketchy some of the jobs sound in terms of job security or overall morale.

What I'm really interested in is CS. I've never done any programming before but I do respect how thorough the major is with computers, the nitty-grittyness of it. I also like the job outlooks of having a degree like that. Honestly don't know how I'd handle the math part of it, I do have the highest grade in my college algebra class though LOL, if that says anything.

Basically I'm stuck with what to major in. I'm almost finished with my Associates in Business Administration which is required for the IS/IT program, but CS does intrigue the hell out of me.

[Nate2003]

<---- computer janitor..

I try not to let it get the best of me.. I think going to the gym has helped me release some rage though.. ha

[lil_pirie]

have a degree in networking.
have a interview for a telecoms job on monday

[SmallyBiggs92]

good luck lil pirie

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[Sounds Good]

I'm graduating in December with my B.S. in IT and would like to do something with network security. What kind of certificates do you think I should get?

network+
security+
CCNA

to start with

[guitarwar241]

network+
security+
CCNA

to start with

Alright, thanks man. I have to get going with these certificates then haha. I'm gonna start with A+ and work my way down.

[J1n]

for certification info go here http://www.techexams.net/forums/

[zyx1337]

I am soon doing the MCITP course tests (first one : 60-780 windows 7 config)

anyone got tips on how to learn it? I want to be good and not just memorize the questions & answers!

bumop

[J1n]

bumop


for certification info go here http://www.techexams.net/forums/

bump the thread but skip my post that has the answer to your question.......

[zyx1337]

didnt realized you answer my question with it.

[Lemonade727]

I got A+ and Net+ back in 2004-05 in high school. Would those still be valid?


Yes. The certifications earned anytime before the start of the new year will remain as lifetime certifications from CompTIA (A+, Net+, and Sec+ for now). It's just anything after it that require the recertification.

http://www.trainsignaltraining.com/comptia-certification-renewal-policy/2010-01-14/


for certification info go here http://www.techexams.net/forums/

Thanks!

[ElBonemeister]

Going to take my CCNA test either Wed, Thurs or Friday of this upcoming week.

[Lemonade727]

Going to take my CCNA test either Wed, Thurs or Friday of this upcoming week.

Good luck!

[dcballer]

Going to take my CCNA test either Wed, Thurs or Friday of this upcoming week.

Good luck!

[Nitric Oxide]

Going to take my CCNA test either Wed, Thurs or Friday of this upcoming week.

let us know how it goes


Anyone in the field want to elaborate on what they do and what they're currently working on?

[Ephedra]

Hey guys I'm interested in the CIS concentration they have going on at my school but was wondering if you think I'd learn a decent amount from it.

Here are the classes....

ISDS 309 Introduction to Programming (3)
ISDS 312 Database Management Systems (3)
ISDS 406 System Analysis & Design (3)
ISDS 409 Business Telecommunications for Info. Sys. Design (3)
ISDS 454 Seminar in Information Systems Development (3)


And then I need to pick 2 from these as electives:

ISDS 371 C++ for Business Applications (3)
ISDS 372 JAVA Programming for Business Applications (3)
ISDS 411 Microcomputer Business Applications Design (3)
ISDS 414 Internet Technologies and Applications (3)
ISDS 415 Decision Support and Expert Systems (3)
ISDS 418 Privacy and Security (3)
ISDS 431 Enterprise Systems Implementation, Configuration & Use (3)
ISDS 433 Enterprise Systems Administration (3)
ISDS 435 Integrated Enterprise Information Systems (3)
ISDS 437 Enterprise Networks for Information Systems (3)
ISDS 443 Marketing Analytics Decision-Making (3)
ISDS 474 Introduction to SAS & Data Mining (3)
ISDS 485 Wireless Business Networks for Info Systems (3)



Any opinions on these classes and any suggestions on which electives would be the most beneficial for the job market?

[Nitric Oxide]

Hey guys I'm interested in the CIS concentration they have going on at my school but was wondering if you think I'd learn a decent amount from it.

Here are the classes....

ISDS 309 Introduction to Programming (3)
ISDS 312 Database Management Systems (3)
ISDS 406 System Analysis & Design (3)
ISDS 409 Business Telecommunications for Info. Sys. Design (3)
ISDS 454 Seminar in Information Systems Development (3)


And then I need to pick 2 from these as electives:

ISDS 371 C++ for Business Applications (3)
ISDS 372 JAVA Programming for Business Applications (3)
ISDS 411 Microcomputer Business Applications Design (3)
ISDS 414 Internet Technologies and Applications (3)
ISDS 415 Decision Support and Expert Systems (3)
ISDS 418 Privacy and Security (3)
ISDS 431 Enterprise Systems Implementation, Configuration & Use (3)
ISDS 433 Enterprise Systems Administration (3)
ISDS 435 Integrated Enterprise Information Systems (3)
ISDS 437 Enterprise Networks for Information Systems (3)
ISDS 443 Marketing Analytics Decision-Making (3)
ISDS 474 Introduction to SAS & Data Mining (3)
ISDS 485 Wireless Business Networks for Info Systems (3)



Any opinions on these classes and any suggestions on which electives would be the most beneficial for the job market?

ISDS 309 Introduction to Programming (3)

This is a definite must have course for any IT or computer science professional. You should at least understand how to program if you are going into the IT field. You don't necessarily have to become a programmer or be good at it but you should at least know how it's done

ISDS 312 Database Management Systems (3)
This class is "iffy" and is only going to be valuable if you decide to become a database administrator. If you don't become a DBA, then most of the stuff you'll learn in this class will be kind of useless.

ISDS 406 System Analysis & Design (3)
I have mixed feelings on this class. Again, this class will only be beneficial if you decide to become a systems analyst OR if you become a programmer on a fairly large project. However, at the same time you'll become a lot more confident in how software is developed and how to program on large projects. This class is about preparing diagrams and information for programmers to write their code. Think of a fairly large or complex computer program. In order to create that program, there are months and sometimes years of planning and preparing the requirements and design for the program. There's a set of diagrams called UML that help explain how programming code is supposed to work. System analysts are the ones who draw these diagrams and then programmers can easily write their code by simply looking at the diagram (which is essentially a blueprint). You'll learn how to create these diagrams and create documentation for computer programs.
ISDS 409 Business Telecommunications for Info. Sys. Design (3)
Not really sure what this class is about but it sounds like gathering requirements and designing a network to meet business needs. If so, it's fairly useful

ISDS 454 Seminar in Information Systems Development (3)

This will probably be pretty worthless. It's supposed to emulate real life job experience by having students work in teams and develop their own project from scratch. Most other schools call this their senior design or senior project. It's more of a hassle and work then educational.

As for your gen eds, it depends on what you want to do. Any of those classes are fine if that's what you want to pursue. Don't pick something because it's easy or time convenient, pick something you want to do, or something where there's a high demand. Do you want to do administration or development?

Overall I'd give that curriculum a 7.5/10. How much is the tuition?

[kubakuba]

I just received my bachelors in marketing and have an entry job working at an advanced technologies firm but I don't see myself staying there much longer (more or less because I plan to leave Michigan)..

Having said that, I can't seem to settle on one area to specialize in and am following the dreaded "generally good at everything" route which I know I have to get off of..

For example, most recently I've been doing lots of web development (jquery, ajax, asp.net) but 6 months ago was dead set on game development (unrealscript, 3d modeling/sculpting). I enjoy both programming and gfx design so one route I'm thinkomg may be "the one" is UI design, since it often is a mix of both and I imagine will only grow larger in demand as apps become more and more sophisticated. Still haven't sold myself on it just yet.. I hate knowing that as each day passes I'm wasting time that could be spent building a specialized portfolio. Feelsbadman.

[Brothylated]

Sup IT brahs. I'm in Cisco systems right now, getting paid to misc.

u mad?

[Brothylated]

looking into information technology also. Recommend 2 year degree or 4 yr?

2 year degree plus a good cert like CCNA or MCP will get you far.

[TheStender]

Not in IT but I’m the go to computer guy in my department because I know how to click around enough to find the problem. Might go to school for it, but I’m not sure yet.

Yesterday I was called in to solve a printer jam. The printer says right on it exactly what you need to do to fix the jam but apparently the person couldn’t do it themselves.

[droolingdonkey]

I am about to finish my Associate Degree in IT at a Community College. Next fall I will transfer to George Mason and work on my Bachelor in IT. I am interested in Networking and security. I am planning to get an Internship asap.

It's a good school man, I'm going there right now for IT Security. The only thing I don't like is that almost all of their IT classes are at another campus 30 mins away from the main one.

[c0vjek]

Getting my A.S in Network Systems Administration next year and then going for my B.S in Network and Systems Managment

currently hold A+ *****, working on studying for CCNA and getting ready to go into Army Reserves as a IT Specialist.

[Nitric Oxide]

Wow, I spent my spare time on night shifts writing a program that automates a report that everyone on my team spends so much of their time doing and the guy who issues the report to us flips out on me because now I made his job look unimportant. He called me up at 4 in the morning asking who authorized me to write that and that I'm not properly trained to write that program. ****ing old timers lol, I'm saving this company money and yet I get yelled at for it.

[LiftHeavy85]

my friend is in IT and her company has had 3 layoffs so far, all from IT, she is now doing the work of 6 people with a 3 person crew.

[c0vjek]

I am not good at writing shell commands, I missed the class due to being sick and need to write this for an assignment.

I will rep



 Set the prompt to “COMP230 day mm/dd/yy>”
 Starts a new shell with the title “Comp230 Exercise”.
 Opens at the location H:\Shell Scripts
 Presents a screen with a purple background and a white foreground.
 Executes the dir command with the /p switch.
 Save the script on the H:\Shell Scripts directory as “Sample Script-03.cmd”.

[Silent-A]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone that majored in MIS/CIS can give me some guidance.

I'm a high school graduate, but not currently in college (but I will enroll in a community college in the Spring semester, and hopefully transfer to USF). I've been doing some research on this major and I could really see myself on this career path in the next several years.

I still want to know more about this major, but I don't know where to begin, especially on the technical side (ie. Which certifications should I get? Where do I go to get certified?)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[cgrimaldo]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone that majored in MIS/CIS can give me some guidance.

I'm a high school graduate, but not currently in college (but I will enroll in a community college in the Spring semester, and hopefully transfer to USF). I've been doing some research on this major and I could really see myself on this career path in the next several years.

I still want to know more about this major, but I don't know where to begin, especially on the technical side (ie. Which certifications should I get? Where do I go to get certified?)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

This thread is a great idea but still young. Go here to get a lot of those questions answered.

http://techexams.net/forums/

I have been in the I/T world for 7 years; the last 5 in the Healthcare arena. I'm about to finish up my B.A in Infrastructure Assurance. PM me..I can help you out brah.

[Silent-A]

This thread is a great idea but still young. Go here to get a lot of those questions answered.

http://techexams.net/forums/

I have been in the I/T world for 7 years; the last 5 in the Healthcare arena. I'm about to finish up my B.A in Infrastructure Assurance. PM me..I can help you out brah.

Thanks man, repped on recharge.

[DuLac]

Not in IT but I’m the go to computer guy in my department because I know how to click around enough to find the problem. Might go to school for it, but I’m not sure yet.

Yesterday I was called in to solve a printer jam. The printer says right on it exactly what you need to do to fix the jam but apparently the person couldn’t do it themselves.

Your post pretty much sums up IT, but this does it in a flowchart:

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/tech_support_cheat_sheet.png

[SmallyBiggs92]

likin the flow chart. I started my class in C++ earlier this week and im having trouble correlating binary numbers and letters.

If every letter is a number, is every number a letter or character?

[reyalp]

I am currently provisioning some SAN storage.
Man does Hitachi make theirs a pain in the ass. Storage Navigator FTL.
I have 200TB of Dell Equalogic on order, due sometime in October. :P

To think, I could be at the gun range right now...

[reyalp]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone that majored in MIS/CIS can give me some guidance.

I'm a high school graduate, but not currently in college (but I will enroll in a community college in the Spring semester, and hopefully transfer to USF). I've been doing some research on this major and I could really see myself on this career path in the next several years.

I still want to know more about this major, but I don't know where to begin, especially on the technical side (ie. Which certifications should I get? Where do I go to get certified?)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

MIS is more of a foundation than a specific job opportunity. There's no set job you're supposed to get after your MIS degree.
I'd specifically avoid being a Windows admin if you enjoy your sanity.
Just hit up Indeed.com for your area, look up the IT jobs, go through and see what you think looks good. Do market research and make sure you're not picking something oversaturated for that area. Do salary research and make sure the range is something you're comfortable with.
Pick a position you want to aim for and then plot out the baby steps in between your status quo and that ideal position.

[Silent-A]

MIS is more of a foundation than a specific job opportunity. The
Just hit up Indeed.com for your area, look up the IT jobs, go through and see what you think looks good. Do market research and make sure you're not picking something oversaturated for that area. Do salary research and make sure the range is something you're comfortable with.
Pick a position you want to aim for and then plot out the baby steps in between your status quo and that ideal position.

Just checked it out, definitely seems like a great resource. Thanks reyalp. (repped)

[Quzah]

I am currently going for a BA in IT. I don't know what I want to do though. Any suggestions? Not big on programming.

[lems]

anyone have any idea on what a new grad will make with a BS in CS?

central texas area.

[mehldau]

I am currently going for a BA in IT. I don't know what I want to do though. Any suggestions? Not big on programming.

there are so many different things out there... its all up to you and what your interested in. programming, telecommunications, database, web design, computer forensics, IT auditing come to mind. try taking a course or two in each area to see what you do/don't like.

[mehldau]

anyone have any idea on what a new grad will make with a BS in CS?

central texas area.

the figures i usually see for CS majors is between 50k and 60k... not specific to your area. its going to be very important that you get some hands on experience during school so that you will be able to land a job upon graduation

[WinG.NuT]

I am currently in my 2nd year of Computer Information Technology. I have learned A LOT of IT related subjects and I think I am leaning towards web developement because I already have a solid set of graphic design skills to go a long with it.

[mehldau]

I am currently in my 2nd year of Computer Information Technology. I have learned A LOT of IT related subjects and I think I am leaning towards web developement because I already have a solid set of graphic design skills to go a long with it.

web design definitely sounds like a good choice if you have artistic skills and want to be creative

[zyx1337]

Maybe anyone could help me, I just completed a test with Microsoft (pro-metric) and passed.
now this is my first certification (60-780).
I received a mail from Microsoft confirming that I have indeed passed the test, now they give me a site to register for my MCP. now the site requires MCP ID and Access Code. how do I obtain access to both of those things?

also how does a MCP code looks like

edit: I searched the mail microsoft sent me inside out and didnt found anything

[fulloffat]

I am currently in my 2nd year of Computer Information Technology. I have learned A LOT of IT related subjects and I think I am leaning towards web developement because I already have a solid set of graphic design skills to go a long with it.

I think there is a strong demand for web development. The skills gained from the job can be passed into other areas as well. The graphics guys I worked with had a lot of Java knowledge, which they used Eclipse for their development, and developed skills in DB's to connect their applications and do SQL lookups.

[fulloffat]

I am currently going for a BA in IT. I don't know what I want to do though. Any suggestions? Not big on programming.

What about Networking ? Install hardware, routers, hubs, configuration of networks, VPN's, Firewalls. I'm not sure if schools are specific to System Administrators or if it is included as part of Networking.

www.dice.com

Enter "Networking" and the area you're in. See what comes up and what sort of demand for that particular field.

[EasTexan]

Thread revive! Studying for my systems admin test tomorrow. Check out my bangin study setup. Dinner trays ftw!

(bowl was mac and cheese + tuna, winter bulk)

Taking a break from studying, but gotta stay focused so I'm posting in the IT thread. :D

http://i51.tinypic.com/or4abo.jpg

[Quzah]

Thread revive! Studying for my systems admin test tomorrow. Check out my bangin study setup. Dinner trays ftw!

(bowl was mac and cheese + tuna, winter bulk)

Taking a break from studying, but gotta stay focused so I'm posting in the IT thread. :D

http://i51.tinypic.com/or4abo.jpg

Nice!

You a CS Major?

[EasTexan]

CS major and IT minor. :D

[Quzah]

CS major and IT minor. :D

Same here except I haven't decided on if I want to become a IT minor yet.

[dcballer]

Sup guys? I just started working on my CCNA :)

[thebear123]

does IT involve math?

[sword_]

Which one of these classes would you take if you had the option?

CCNA, CCNP, Oracle DBA, MCITP, MCSE, MCSA, Java, Linux and Unix.

I'm out of work now but luckily my state has funding for job training and this is what is offered currently. Reps of course!

[Idontlikeit]

does IT involve math?

IIRC just basic math, no calculus.. unless you're doing comp sci

[$uperdrolin]

Networking because you can get into high paying jobs easily with a bit of luck.

[Nate2003]

I'm just trying to get my Security+ since they will be changing it to a 3 year certification after this year is over. I just can't seem to find much time to study with work/working out/social life. >_<

[BladeRun]

My advice for the non-developers in this thread: Learn to script. VBscript & Powershell will VASTLY help you nearly all technical positions.

[reyalp]

IIRC just basic math, no calculus.. unless you're doing comp sci

trig is also involved

[Quzah]

does IT involve math?

My IT program requires Calculus I, Discrete Math, and Probability Models.

[Phenom01]

Associates in Computer Science and currently enrolled in CST major.

[EasTexan]

Our IT program only requires probability/statistics and trig.

The CS program requires trig, plane analytic geometry, calc I, calc II, and prob/stats. And of course the prereqs for any of those (like math 099) but if you scored decent on the ACT or SAT those are not normally required.

Think I aced the sys admin test today. Repetition is key to remembering this stuff. feelsgoodman.

[Quzah]

Our IT program only requires probability/statistics and trig.

The CS program requires trig, plane analytic geometry, calc I, calc II, and prob/stats. And of course the prereqs for any of those (like math 099) but if you scored decent on the ACT or SAT those are not normally required.

Think I aced the sys admin test today. Repetition is key to remembering this stuff. feelsgoodman.

Your CS Math doesn't seem to bad. Mine is Calc I, Probability Models, Discrete Math, Calc II, and the we get to choose from Calc III, Advanced Programming, or Linear Algebra.

Anyways, congrats on your test.

[SightSeeker]

I'm a certified Oracle 10G DBA. If anyone has any questions they can let me know.

[ElBonemeister]

Which one of these classes would you take if you had the option?

CCNA, CCNP, Oracle DBA, MCITP, MCSE, MCSA, Java, Linux and Unix.

I'm out of work now but luckily my state has funding for job training and this is what is offered currently. Reps of course!

I would definitely go the Cisco route. Networking jobs = paysgoodman

If you can do CCNA AND CCNP, I would highly recommend it. Currently have my CCNA, but they dropped the CCNP classes and I don't think I could just study for it myself.

Java and the MCSE/A wouldn't be bad, either.

[sword_]

I would definitely go the Cisco route. Networking jobs = paysgoodman

If you can do CCNA AND CCNP, I would highly recommend it. Currently have my CCNA, but they dropped the CCNP classes and I don't think I could just study for it myself.

Java and the MCSE/A wouldn't be bad, either.

I have to get a CCNA first before a CCNP so I might do that while working another job. I am getting a lot of advice saying that Oracle would be a good idea. Either that or leave IT.

[ElBonemeister]

I have to get a CCNA first before a CCNP so I might do that while working another job. I am getting a lot of advice saying that Oracle would be a good idea. Either that or leave IT.
Mehh depends on what you want to specifically do/who you work for

Oracle cert isn't going to look that great unless you're going to try for a big company that needs such a specific thing.

Cisco ***** look good for just about any IT job available

[sword_]

Mehh depends on what you want to specifically do/who you work for

Oracle cert isn't going to look that great unless you're going to try for a big company that needs such a specific thing.

Cisco ***** look good for just about any IT job available

There seems to be a lot of need for database admins and network admins in my state. Ideally I'd take both, but I'm going with Oracle first. DBAs seem to be growing a lot now.

How was the CCNA course BTW?

[fulloffat]

I have to get a CCNA first before a CCNP so I might do that while working another job. I am getting a lot of advice saying that Oracle would be a good idea. Either that or leave IT.

It stick with the hardware networking field. I wouldn't get into a separate field until you hand a job and then get the hands on experience/training.

There is a pretty high demand for Networking experience in the broadband and telecommunications world. Cable Companies, Telecom Companies are huge into it, and beyond that any mid size to large companies.

[sword_]

It stick with the hardware networking field. I wouldn't get into a separate field until you hand a job and then get the hands on experience/training.

There is a pretty high demand for Networking experience in the broadband and telecommunications world. Cable Companies, Telecom Companies are huge into it, and beyond that any mid size to large companies.

I think I will have to do the Oracle DBA job certification first. I CCNA is a prerequisite for CCNP apparently and the schedules for the CCNA and CCNP courses overlap one another unfortunately. Even if I don't use it entirely it will still be a decent skillset to have.

I'm just afraid that if I get the CCNA since its so basic I will just get a help desk position or something. I can do it in the meantime.

[c0vjek]

Sup guys? I just started working on my CCNA :)

me too, currently studying for it, hopefully I can take it in Mach, April time


does IT involve math?

Yes

Depending on what your focus is, will depend on how much math you have to take. I am focusing on Networking and only have to take 2 math classes to graduate with a B.S.

[Quzah]

I am getting a BA in IT with a concentration in networking. I'm thinking about grad school but not sure what masters degree should/could I go for?

[jafomofo]

Which one of these classes would you take if you had the option?

CCNA, CCNP, Oracle DBA, MCITP, MCSE, MCSA, Java, Linux and Unix.

I'm out of work now but luckily my state has funding for job training and this is what is offered currently. Reps of course!

get your PMP instead. There is nothing in that list that you can't self study with ease.

[jafomofo]

I am getting a BA in IT with a concentration in networking. I'm thinking about grad school but not sure what masters degree should/could I go for?

having a masters in IT is going to be worthless. get your degree, get a job and a few years experience then you can get a masters to focus on what you want but a masters in IT is silly to start with. At that point you could get an MBA, grad work in security or something like that but a generic IT masters with the same undergrad is a waste.

If you were going for CS it would be a different story.

[Quzah]

having a masters in IT is going to be worthless. get your degree, get a job and a few years experience then you can get a masters to focus on what you want but a masters in IT is silly to start with. At that point you could get an MBA, grad work in security or something like that but a generic IT masters with the same undergrad is a waste.

If you were going for CS it would be a different story.

True, CS is still in a planning stage. Not sure if I really want to do it. What do you guys think?

[Duckyy]

What GPA did you guys end up with after the program?

Does GPA matter?

[MusclePrime]

Arite computer bruhs, need help over hurrr..



My hard drive died couple days ago so I went and bought a new one (500gb) and installed it. Then I installed XP but decided to buy ram and put in Vista so I did that. When I installed XP it said that I had 127gb of space and it says the same thing with Vista. I updated the service pack and still same problem. What do bruhs?

[EasTexan]

When you chose which partition to install windows to, how big did it show the hard drive to be? Was there any unpartitioned space?

You can run the setup again to see, and then cancel it.

Or, check in your bios to see if it is being reported correctly. (press F1, del, or F8 while your pc is booting up)

[EruptionofSex]

Which has better job opportunities? CS or IT/IS? I've heard from a lot of people that IT/IS is too general of a degree and a waste, have also heard the exact opposite.

I'm stuck between IT/IS and CS with only a month left to decide before I have to start picking classes. I'm not that interested in becoming some big businessman, I want to work with computers mostly. The IS degree at my school is huge on business. Don't know if I can hack the rigorous courses that CS has to offer however. I like how CS gets DEEP with computers tho, while IS is mainly just using applications to help a business operate.

[sword_]

Looks like I won't have enough time to get all my paperwork in to take the Oracle DBA course so I'm going towards the CCNA and CCNP. I can take self study the CCNA during the month of Nov and take it for $250 then by Dec take the CCNP courses. Sounds like a plan.

[Motion23]

Looks like I won't have enough time to get all my paperwork in to take the Oracle DBA course so I'm going towards the CCNA and CCNP. I can take self study the CCNA during the month of Nov and take it for $250 then by Dec take the CCNP courses. Sounds like a plan.

CCNA is serious business. I just finished the first of 4 classes at my local college to prepare for the exam.

[Quzah]

Which has better job opportunities? CS or IT/IS? I've heard from a lot of people that IT/IS is too general of a degree and a waste, have also heard the exact opposite.

I'm stuck between IT/IS and CS with only a month left to decide before I have to start picking classes. I'm not that interested in becoming some big businessman, I want to work with computers mostly. The IS degree at my school is huge on business. Don't know if I can hack the rigorous courses that CS has to offer however. I like how CS gets DEEP with computers tho, while IS is mainly just using applications to help a business operate.

I am wondering the same thing, I am in the same boat as you.

Any advice?

[ausluke]

anyone in here a business/systems analyst?

Im doing an IS degree and am wondering how you got into it. What was your first job in IT? thinking about doing an intern as a level 2 support technition... would this help me land a better job on graduation?

[Phal4nx]

My career is in Software Packaging, Windows Installer/MSI. Anyone else in this field?

[Zvengeance]

I think I will have to do the Oracle DBA job certification first. I CCNA is a prerequisite for CCNP apparently and the schedules for the CCNA and CCNP courses overlap one another unfortunately. Even if I don't use it entirely it will still be a decent skillset to have.

I'm just afraid that if I get the CCNA since its so basic I will just get a help desk position or something. I can do it in the meantime.

sorry to burst your bubble but any competent CIO or Network manager with the right mind will not hire someone that just got their CCNA or CCNP for a networking engineering position. especially if the person has not worked in a live networking environment. you WILL start at desktop support or something along the lines of network support.

taking exams and configuring production cisco equipment are 2 different things. you submit the wrong command you could take out server vlans or user vlans.

i know this bc i got a bach in MIS, and then proceeded to get my CCNA. i still landed a network support job that dealt with mostly desktop related tasks. after a year my boss saw potential moved me up to network engineer. i'm telling you right now you better know how to configure switches, routers, and subnetting by the end of your class.

now i'm working towards ccnp, and masters in computer engineering. i suggest anyone taking ccna to land a job, and meanwhile prepare for ccnp if that is what you want.

[sword_]

sorry to burst your bubble but any competent CIO or Network manager with the right mind will not hire someone that just got their CCNA or CCNP for a networking engineering position. especially if the person has not worked in a live networking environment. you WILL start at desktop support or something along the lines of network support.

taking exams and configuring production cisco equipment are 2 different things. you submit the wrong command you could take out server vlans or user vlans.

i know this bc i got a bach in MIS, and then proceeded to get my CCNA. i still landed a network support job that dealt with mostly desktop related tasks. after a year my boss saw potential moved me up to network engineer. i'm telling you right now you better know how to configure switches, routers, and subnetting by the end of your class.

now i'm working towards ccnp, and masters in computer engineering. i suggest anyone taking ccna to land a job, and meanwhile prepare for ccnp if that is what you want.

I have previous networking experience actually but never received a CCNA. I see what you mean though. What I was saying was is that I don't want to get cornered in the general support positions and years later having to look into something else.

This is the reason why I've considered going into another industry.

[OldeEnglish800]

Do I have to take any classes to be eligible for the A+ exam? Or could I just study from home and take it on my own will.

[SightSeeker]

Aren't those Cisco exams like the hardest ones there are? I thought my Oracle exams were hard lol. I took one of the exams 3 times. Last one I aced but I had no idea the studying involved. I studied more for those exams than I did through college.

[sword_]

Yep so I'm going to go for a CCNA. Just looking to get funding at the moment.

[ElBonemeister]

Yep so I'm going to go for a CCNA. Just looking to get funding at the moment.
good decision! will rep on recharge

i got my CCNA and it was worth it!

[sword_]

good decision! will rep on recharge

i got my CCNA and it was worth it!

What type of work do you do man?

Still want to use this as a stepping stone for a CCNP / CCVP because I want a good salary combined with my previous experience, ya know? Really more concerned with stability but working in the city + commuting = $$$

[Zvengeance]

Aren't those Cisco exams like the hardest ones there are? I thought my Oracle exams were hard lol. I took one of the exams 3 times. Last one I aced but I had no idea the studying involved. I studied more for those exams than I did through college.

oracle is pretty good area although a lot of companies hate oracle with a passion.

[Pro_Shark]

Computer Information Systems major here. I'm becoming more interested in systems analysts, anyone here have any experience or knowledge in that field? Would that be a recommended area to go into, or would something else, like database or networking, be better?

[droolingdonkey]

Do I have to take any classes to be eligible for the A+ exam? Or could I just study from home and take it on my own will.

You can study at home, that's what I did.

[Lobo13]

Programmer here, I use VB.NET, C# and Java. Have used C++ but was awhile ago. Also familar with COBOL, ahh legacy 4tl. Also use MySQL and MSSQL, needed skills for programming.

[jafomofo]

taking exams and configuring production cisco equipment are 2 different things. you submit the wrong command you could take out server vlans or user vlans.


heh. server vlans or user vlans?! oh noes! you clearly have 0 experience. give it up.



i know this bc i got a bach in MIS, and then proceeded to get my CCNA. i still landed a network support job that dealt with mostly desktop related tasks. after a year my boss saw potential moved me up to network engineer. i'm telling you right now you better know how to configure switches, routers, and subnetting by the end of your class.

now i'm working towards ccnp, and masters in computer engineering. i suggest anyone taking ccna to land a job, and meanwhile prepare for ccnp if that is what you want.

computer engineering is hardware btw son.

sword ignore this guy, get your CCNA, don't bother with the NP for now. get an entry level admin job, you have enough linux experience and general knowledge to catch on at a larger place doing entry level admin or operations work. You could also try to get in with a small firm as a generalist.