dragonracer20's double t transformation

[dragonracer20]

3-30-10

Hey everyone,

About me.....I have been in and out of the gym for three years, just getting back from a 6 month lazy spell..the work out below i found here on bodybuilders.com seems to fit what im looking for...i will be using 4 Double T products which consist of Creadyl, Glutacene, No Beta and Test X6....i can use a little help with recommended dosage and times or should i follow the directions....I felt like a little kid on Christmas when the package came im pumped to get started...any advice will be greatly appreciated especially with my diet

Training:
Day 1: Shoulders/Back
Day 2: Quads/Hams/Calves
Day 3: Off Day
Day 4: Chest/Shoulders
Day 5: Hams/Quads/Back
Day 6: Arms/Calves
Day 7: 20min HIIT Cardio



Nutrition (Spread over 6 meals)
Lifting Days: 239gP, 250gC, 60gF and 1 protein drink post workout
Off/Cardio Days: The same since i only have one day off

I probably need help in the diet department so any help would be greatly appreciated

cant wait to hit the gym with my new products.....will post later with tonights workout and also posting starting pics tonight
__________________
No Beta
Creadyl
Glutacene
Test X6

[dragonracer20]

Leg Day:3-30-10

Hack Squats 5 sets
90-10
90-10
140-8
140-8
90-10

Ham Curl
80-10
110-10
110-10
110-10

Hammer Squat
90-10
90-10
160-8
160-8

Leg Extension Superset Lying Leg Curl
80-10 75-10
80-10 75-10
100-10 75-10
100-10 75-10

Standing Calf Raise
90-10
180-10
180-8
180-8

Seated Calf Raise
90-10
90-10
90-10
90-10

I was always the type never to work out legs....but im going to make it up by doing it twice a week....last night was my first shot of double t supps....I def felt the energy and focus on my first dose
__________________
No Beta
Creadyl
Glutacene
Test X6

[dragonracer20]

This is for the double T reps.....Let me know if i need to change any of the starting pics

[dragonracer20]

3-31-10

Chest-Shoulders- Tris

Incline DB Press
45-10
50-7
55-5

DB Bench
45-10
50-8
55-5
35-10

Cable Crossovers
30-15
40-12
40-10

Seated Side Raises
15-12
15-10
15-10

Lying Rear Raises
15-12
15-12
15-12

Side Raise Machine Superset Side Raises
50-15 20-15
50-12 20-12

V Bar Pressdowns
90-12
100-10
110-7

Arm Rope Pressdowns
100-12
90-10
90-8
80-12
80-12
80-12
80-12

1 Scoop Creadyl Pre-wo
6 NO-Beta Pre-wo
2 Scoops Glutacene
4 Testx6 pre-bed

I will give some feed back in a couple of days on the supps....just want to give it a couple of days....

[jordansrt]

3-31-10

Chest-Shoulders- Tris

Incline DB Press
45-10
50-7
55-5

DB Bench
45-10
50-8
55-5
35-10

Cable Crossovers
30-15
40-12
40-10

Seated Side Raises
15-12
15-10
15-10

Lying Rear Raises
15-12
15-12
15-12

Side Raise Machine Superset Side Raises
50-15 20-15
50-12 20-12

V Bar Pressdowns
90-12
100-10
110-7

Arm Rope Pressdowns
100-12
90-10
90-8
80-12
80-12
80-12
80-12

1 Scoop Creadyl Pre-wo
6 NO-Beta Pre-wo
2 Scoops Glutacene
4 Testx6 pre-bed

I will give some feed back in a couple of days on the supps....just want to give it a couple of days....
Hey bro i know you said you wanted to wait a few days, but how were the supps on the initial take?

[Roids09]

Best of luck to you man!

[THEMANBEAST]

Good luck, bud!

[Lucky_ROA]

3-31-10

Chest-Shoulders- Tris

Incline DB Press
45-10
50-7
55-5

DB Bench
45-10
50-8
55-5
35-10

Cable Crossovers
30-15
40-12
40-10

Seated Side Raises
15-12
15-10
15-10

Lying Rear Raises
15-12
15-12
15-12

Side Raise Machine Superset Side Raises
50-15 20-15
50-12 20-12

V Bar Pressdowns
90-12
100-10
110-7

Arm Rope Pressdowns
100-12
90-10
90-8
80-12
80-12
80-12
80-12

1 Scoop Creadyl Pre-wo
6 NO-Beta Pre-wo
2 Scoops Glutacene
4 Testx6 pre-bed

I will give some feed back in a couple of days on the supps....just want to give it a couple of days....

IN ! good workout !! and looking forward to your entire log :) If you need any help regarding your diet; do let me know ! ALso I thought this was a Chest/Shoulder only day ?!?

[dragonracer20]

IN ! good workout !! and looking forward to your entire log :) If you need any help regarding your diet; do let me know ! ALso I thought this was a Chest/Shoulder only day ?!?

yeah i said the same thing...i had a alot of energy and felt like throwing it in

[slats88]

Good one brah, will be watching your updates

[dragonracer20]

Hey bro i know you said you wanted to wait a few days, but how were the supps on the initial take?

Well i can say this....I def felt the enegy and pump from the products....i am having a hard time not wanting to keep lifting...i have no doubt these products are going to help me reach and surpass my goals

[dragonracer20]

Best of luck to you man!

Thanks bro


Good luck, bud!

Thanks beast...thanks for the support

[Lucky_ROA]

yeah i said the same thing...i had a alot of energy and felt like throwing it in

What exactly do you need help with; in regards to your diet ?

[dragonracer20]

What exactly do you need help with; in regards to your diet ?

well i have been following a diet from fitclick...which gives you 6 meals without protein drinks..just need advice if this is a good plan....kind of looking for a more simple diet if there such a thing...the link below is one of my days....please critique

http://www.fitclick.com/calorie_counter

[maxrx]

well i have been following a diet from fitclick...which gives you 6 meals without protein drinks..just need advice if this is a good plan....kind of looking for a more simple diet if there such a thing...the link below is one of my days....please critique

http://www.fitclick.com/calorie_counter

The metabolic demand for protein increases by some 300% compared to sedentary individuals, hence, you absolutely must include a protein drink as a source to meet that demand that you can't get from meals alone - my personal favorite in Optimums egg protein - chocolate. A better source would be a WPC and or a blend of WPC/WPI

[dragonracer20]

The metabolic demand for protein increases by some 300% compared to sedentary individuals, hence, you absolutely must include a protein drink as a source to meet that demand that you can't get from meals alone - my personal favorite in Optimums egg protein - chocolate. A better source would be a WPC and or a blend of WPC/WPI

I have been taking vasolate for my protein post workout on top of diet....but i am thinking of changing over to Myofusion and also following a different diet....I have been doing alot of reading on diets
.....Found one called Game Over By Chuck Rudolph and Layne Norton that i find might be a better route for me. Have you heard of this Book, and if so what do you think about it?

[wagner98]

How are your workouts so far? Are you noticing increased vascularity etc.? How is the energy? is it like bouncing of the walls or like a more productive kind of energy?

[journey2swole]

Well i can say this....I def felt the enegy and pump from the products....i am having a hard time not wanting to keep lifting...i have no doubt these products are going to help me reach and surpass my goals

I know exactly who you feel on this. I could stay in the gym all day with my stack from Double-T.

Here is what I take:

NO Beta 6 or 7 pre-workout
CreaDyl 1.5 scoops pre-workout
Glutacene - 3 scoops Intra-workout
NitroMine - 10 Intra workout (not out yet, just running a log on this with a sample)
TestX6 4 at bedtime.

I think this stack is the absolute best you will find.

Diet - I did the cut diet plan found at www.cutdiet.com and did 1750 calories a day but I was on a serious cut for my challenge. There are also diet plans on there for bulking while watching body fat too. Worth checking out.

Your workouts and supplements look great. Post your diet up here as well.

If you need anything please drop me a PM.

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[dragonracer20]

I know exactly who you feel on this. I could stay in the gym all day with my stack from Double-T.

Here is what I take:

NO Beta 6 or 7 pre-workout
CreaDyl 1.5 scoops pre-workout
Glutacene - 3 scoops Intra-workout
NitroMine - 10 Intra workout (not out yet, just running a log on this with a sample)
TestX6 4 at bedtime.

I think this stack is the absolute best you will find.

Diet - I did the cut diet plan found at www.cutdiet.com and did 1750 calories a day but I was on a serious cut for my challenge. There are also diet plans on there for bulking while watching body fat too. Worth checking out.

Your workouts and supplements look great. Post your diet up here as well.

If you need anything please drop me a PM.

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Thanks man i appreciate it!!!!!

[jordansrt]

Thanks man i appreciate it!!!!!

How are you liking the supps bro?

[dragonracer20]

How are your workouts so far? Are you noticing increased vascularity etc.? How is the energy? is it like bouncing of the walls or like a more productive kind of energy?

workouts are insane...i dont want to stop!!!! the energy is insane....its def a productive focused energy

[dpressma]

workouts are insane...i dont want to stop!!!! the energy is insane....its def a productive focused energy

Hey man, looks like you're doing a hell of a job, keep it up! Any of the products feel like they're really standing out?

[Zangeif Lagasse]

great log, subbed.

glad to see you're getting a great boost of energy from the products.

diet wise that looks fine and vasolate works as far as a post workout shake.

what goals have you set for yourself that you want to hit in the 10 week span and beyond?

[Credz]

Awesome job man! Definitely following this one. How are all the products working for you?

[cw955588]

workouts are insane...i dont want to stop!!!! the energy is insane....its def a productive focused energy

Sub'd great work so far! I know what you mean about not wanting to stop in the gym it's crazy! Your results are going to be amazing! Good luck!

[THEMANBEAST]

Thanks bro



Thanks beast...thanks for the support

No problem, man. Any questions you have, I will gladly answer!

[kconnell]

Nice workout/routine. Sounds like the supps are helping a lot.

I've added up and you are only eating 2496 calories. You should add another shake or heavy protein meal. If you don't gain, then add another in between other feedings.

Good luck!

[EVO-PT]

Nice log mate! - keep up the great work.

[ChaseMans]

I like the volume in your workouts, keep it up and good luck with the contest.

[dragonracer20]

Thursday - Off

Friday - Legs

Squats - Plate Weights
90 - 5
140-5
180-3

Hammer Squats - PW
140-9
180-7
180-5

Leg Extensions
80-12
100-12
120-12
140-6

Hack RDL - PW
90-10
140-6
140-6

Ham Curls
85-12
100-10
110-9
110-6
85-12

Seated Calf Raise - PW
140-8
140-8
180-8
180-8
180-8

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-10
115-7
115-7
135-6
90-12

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps- crazy dreams but best sleep in a long time

CREADYL:

ENERGY:[10/10] wanted to keep lifting....


STRENTGH:[9/10] my weight has gone up in only a few days


FOCUS:[9/10]


ELECTROLYTE BALANCE: [9/10]


MIXABILITY: [9/10]


TASTE: [9/10]



GLUTACENE:

TASTE: (9/10)

RECOVERY: (10/10)


NO BETA:

PUMP: (10/10) INSANE!!!!!

Meal 1 6AM
12 Egg Whites
1 Whole Egg
1.5 Cups green beans
1 tbsp peanut butter
6.5 0z grape fruit

Meal 2 9AM
2.5 Myofusion
2 tbsp peanut
1.5 green beans

Meal 3 11AM
canned tuna
1.5 cups green beans
2tbsp

Meal 4 2PM
canned tuna
1.5 cups green beans
8 tsp peanut butter

Meal 5 5PM
canned tuna
24 almonds
1.5 cups green beans

Meal 6
2.5 scoops Myofusion
green beans
18 almonds
6.5 oz grapefruit

Protein 294g
Carbs 120g
Fats 120g

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout/routine. Sounds like the supps are helping a lot.

I've added up and you are only eating 2496 calories. You should add another shake or heavy protein meal. If you don't gain, then add another in between other feedings.

Good luck!

I am trying a new diet which is 2750 calories...thanks for the support!!!

[dpressma]

What flavor glutacene are you using? What can you compare the NO Beta pump to other nitric oxide products you've tried?

[dragonracer20]

How are your workouts so far? Are you noticing increased vascularity etc.? How is the energy? is it like bouncing of the walls or like a more productive kind of energy?

I am noticing size in just 4 days....the pump is crazy!!! my calf felt like they wanted to explode

[dragonracer20]

What flavor glutacene are you using? What can you compare the NO Beta pump to other nitric oxide products you've tried?

i have orange.....I have taken superpump 250, No-Xplode,Nanox9....honestly they are good products but nothing compared to no beta

[Zangeif Lagasse]

i have orange.....I have taken superpump 250, No-Xplode,Nanox9....honestly they are good products but nothing compared to no beta

Yeah, most of those products give you good results for a week or two and then your body gets use to them and you have to cycle off of them for a while to feel any effect again whereas NO Beta seems to work continuously for people without wearing off.

Hopefully that continues to be the case for you. Also good idea on upping your intake a bit, you'll probably see better results in growth and development from that.

[Credz]

Your diet looks amazing. I need to clean up my a little bit. Just coming off a bulk and trying to lean up now.

How are you liking the recovery with the GlutaCene compared to any other muscle recovery products you tried?

[kconnell]

I agree - other NO products are just outclassed by NO-Beta.
Glad you are getting more fuel. Remember, if you aren'tgaining size/weight (it will be slower than anyone really wants), you will need to add more. Don't be afraid to add more carbs. That should be what you adjust if you are not gaining enough or cutback on if getting too smooth/bloated, assuming your protein is high enough for your weight.

Green beans for breakfast? What is it with thse people? ;)

[dragonracer20]

[QUOTE=Credz;471723711]Your diet looks amazing. I need to clean up my a little bit. Just coming off a bulk and trying to lean up now.

How are you liking the recovery with the GlutaCene compared to any other muscle recovery products you tried?

I was using Optimum recovery before and frankly after using glutacene im not sure Optimum did anything....

[dragonracer20]

I agree - other NO products are just outclassed by NO-Beta.
Glad you are getting more fuel. Remember, if you aren'tgaining size/weight (it will be slower than anyone really wants), you will need to add more. Don't be afraid to add more carbs. That should be what you adjust if you are not gaining enough or cutback on if getting too smooth/bloated, assuming your protein is high enough for your weight.

Green beans for breakfast? What is it with thse people? ;)

Thanks for the advice i sure need it....the diet i am using has a carb load meal every 18th meal or day not sure off the top of my head....i will try this for a while and adjust accordingly....thanks for following along

[Greek_Elite]

Diet and workouts seem spot on, keep it up! Do you have any short term goals set up as sort of checkpooints?

[dpressma]

How are you feeling sleep wise with the TestX6? Any difference/dreams/well being? Log is still looking good :)

[dragonracer20]

Diet and workouts seem spot on, keep it up! Do you have any short term goals set up as sort of checkpooints?

Here is my goal for this ten week journey....I am hoping to gain some good lean size for the first six week and for the last four weeks try to cut up for this contest....Let me know if you think this a good idea...or should i just keep gaining

[dragonracer20]

How are you feeling sleep wise with the TestX6? Any difference/dreams/well being? Log is still looking good :)

I am getting the best sleep i have had in a long time....I thought people were messing around about the dreams, but i have had some crazy dreams!!!!!! I wake up and im ready to go!!!! feel great in the morning and feel even better after my morning shot of creadyl

[dragonracer20]

I know exactly who you feel on this. I could stay in the gym all day with my stack from Double-T.

Here is what I take:

NO Beta 6 or 7 pre-workout
CreaDyl 1.5 scoops pre-workout
Glutacene - 3 scoops Intra-workout
NitroMine - 10 Intra workout (not out yet, just running a log on this with a sample)
TestX6 4 at bedtime.

I think this stack is the absolute best you will find.

Diet - I did the cut diet plan found at www.cutdiet.com and did 1750 calories a day but I was on a serious cut for my challenge. There are also diet plans on there for bulking while watching body fat too. Worth checking out.

Your workouts and supplements look great. Post your diet up here as well.

If you need anything please drop me a PM.

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thanks man for the website....I have changed my diet...im going to be eating 2750 calories and for the last 4 weeks cut it down and get ripped.....thanks again for the website

[dragonracer20]

Saturday April 3, 2010

Upper:
Inclined Bench Press:
135 - 10
135 - 8
135 - 8

Cable Crossovers:
30 - 15
40 - 12
50 - 10

Pull Ups:
BW - 10
BW - 10
BW - 10

Chest Supported Row:
50 - 8
45 - 10
40 - 12

Biangular Pulldown Machine:
45 - 12
90 - 12
115 - 6

Straight Arm Pressdown:
90 - 10
100 - 10
70 - 12

Rear Delts on Peck Deck:
100 - 10
100 - 10
70 - 12

Seated DB Curls:
30 - 10
35 - 10
40 - 8

DB Spider Curls:
20 - 10
20 - 10

V Bar Pressdowns:
100 - 12
110 - 10
120 - 8

DB Kickbacks:
20 - 10
20 - 20

Workout was great! Loving the products. The recovery from the Glutacene makes each set feel like its the first set and the pump from NoBeta has my veins popping every session.

I'm going to start putting my stats up every Sunday so you can see my growth as I progress through these ten weeks.

Height: 5 Feet 11 Inches
Weight : 178.0 Pounds
Bodyfat : 11%
Chest : 42 Inches
Arms : 14.5 Inches
Hips : 41 Inches
Waist: 35 Inches
Thighs : 23 Inches
Calves : 15.5 Inches
Forearms : 12 Inches
Shoulders : 48.5 Inches
Neck : 18 Inches

Sunday
Feeling great after my first shot of Creadyl and ready to go to the gym for Cardio and Killer Abs!

[dragonracer20]

Anyone know were i can find a killer routine to work all my abs....right now im doing

Decline weighted crunches
Cable crunches

Decline Oblique crunches
Cable oblique

Hanging Knee Raise
weighted leg raises

not sure if this is any good

[dpressma]

Anyone know were i can find a killer routine to work all my abs....right now im doing

Decline weighted crunches
Cable crunches

Decline Oblique crunches
Cable oblique

Hanging Knee Raise
weighted leg raises

not sure if this is any good

Honestly what you have there is fine. You don't need 100 different exercises for abs. And you're hitting them very well with the exercises you've lifted. If you'd like to ad something my suggestion would be to do decline weighted twists with a medicine ball or plate, elbows and toes for 3 sets of 90 seconds, and barbell rollouts.

Nice stats and congrats on week one!

[dragonracer20]

Honestly what you have there is fine. You don't need 100 different exercises for abs. And you're hitting them very well with the exercises you've lifted. If you'd like to ad something my suggestion would be to do decline weighted twists with a medicine ball or plate, elbows and toes for 3 sets of 90 seconds, and barbell rollouts.

Nice stats and congrats on week one!

I appreciate the advise and thanks for following along and helping out

[Greek_Elite]

Anyone know were i can find a killer routine to work all my abs....right now im doing

Decline weighted crunches
Cable crunches

Decline Oblique crunches
Cable oblique

Hanging Knee Raise
weighted leg raises

not sure if this is any good

I like to hit the 'inner' abs as well some times, so i do like vacuum squeezes while just sitting around, then supermans are really good for the core, cable trunk twists, planks, and sometimes V-sit ups

The BEST ab exercises really are hanging leg raises, and you already got those

[kconnell]

I agree with dpressma - what you have sounds good.
Another good routine is 8-minute abs. You basically alternate between upper/lower/rotation (side-to-side) for 8 minutes straight.

Just remember, that having good abs is more diet than training.

[Segansational]

Game over is a great book, as are all the Layne Norton series of books, but I personally think it's a little too strict for my needs.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Honestly what you have there is fine. You don't need 100 different exercises for abs. And you're hitting them very well with the exercises you've lifted. If you'd like to ad something my suggestion would be to do decline weighted twists with a medicine ball or plate, elbows and toes for 3 sets of 90 seconds, and barbell rollouts.

Nice stats and congrats on week one!

Second this as you don't want to over work your abs.

If you want to change it up from time to time you can incorporate dragon flags, russian twists, or floor wipers. They're a lot of fun (depending on your definition of fun lol) and really hit the core nicely.

[dpressma]

I heard they use russian twists as a torture device..... IN RUSSIA :eek:!!!!!

Seriously though, not fun lol.

[ChaseMans]

Good stuff man, your diet and workouts look completely on points, and from what I've read it seems like your really loving the products. GOOD stuff man

[journey2swole]

I think your training and nutrition looks to be on target. If you want to add anythig to your ab routine I am one of the fans of the Russian Twists, otherwise you look to be right on point with what you are doing.

[dragonracer20]

I think your training and nutrition looks to be on target. If you want to add anythig to your ab routine I am one of the fans of the Russian Twists, otherwise you look to be right on point with what you are doing.

Thanks for the advice...i will switch it up every couple weeks and see how it goes

[dragonracer20]

Today I had a great shoulder and arm workout....definitely felt the no beta work its magic

Military DB Press
35-10
40-10
45-10 Going up in weight next session

Seated Side Raises
20-10
20-10
20-10

Lying Rear Raises
15-12
15-12
15-12 Going up in weight next session

Barbell Curl
60-10
65-10
70-10

Skull Crushes
60-10
60-10
60-10

Cable Curls Super-set Cable Press-down
80-12 100-12
90-10 110-10
100-10 120-10 Going up in weight for both exercises next session

Arm Machine Curl Super-set Machine One Arm Press-downs
60-10 30-10
70-10 40-10
80-10 50-10

Supps

Creadyl 1 scoop morning
Creadyl 1 scoop pre workout
No Beta 6 caps 20 min before workout
Glutacene 3 scoops during workout
Test X6 6 caps at bedtime

These products are kickass!!!!! Wish i had some samples of nitromine with this stack (hint hint reps!!!!)J/K

Thanks everyone for following along and offering valuable advice that has helped me greatly!!!

[cw955588]

Nice workout! Looks like the products are definitely working their magic!

[Credz]

Looking Good! Are the workouts where you are going up in weight new personal records?

[dpressma]

Excellent workout bro! I wouldn't mind some Nitromine samples either :D Fingers crossed lol

[drooks10]

Today I had a great shoulder and arm workout....definitely felt the no beta work its magic

Military DB Press
35-10
40-10
45-10 Going up in weight next session

Seated Side Raises
20-10
20-10
20-10

Lying Rear Raises
15-12
15-12
15-12 Going up in weight next session

Barbell Curl
60-10
65-10
70-10

Skull Crushes
60-10
60-10
60-10

Cable Curls Super-set Cable Press-down
80-12 100-12
90-10 110-10
100-10 120-10 Going up in weight for both exercises next session

Arm Machine Curl Super-set Machine One Arm Press-downs
60-10 30-10
70-10 40-10
80-10 50-10

Supps

Creadyl 1 scoop morning
Creadyl 1 scoop pre workout
No Beta 6 caps 20 min before workout
Glutacene 3 scoops during workout
Test X6 6 caps at bedtime

These products are kickass!!!!! Wish i had some samples of nitromine with this stack (hint hint reps!!!!)J/K

Thanks everyone for following along and offering valuable advice that has helped me greatly!!!

Congrats on having such a great workout! It always feel good to "be in the zone!"

Your shoulder exercises look solid! Are you doing any shrugs to work those traps?

How was your pump on your arms exercises? Did you notice any increased vascularity?

6 Testx6 tabs! I bet you are having some NICE dreams! Haha. Keep rockin'!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

top notch shoulder workout and you must be having some incredible dreams and some of the deepest sleep ever with 6 caps of testx6

[dragonracer20]

Looking Good! Are the workouts where you are going up in weight new personal records?

I am going up in weight.... never really kept apersonal log for PR....but that is a good idea...be interesting to see how much my strength goes up

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout! Looks like the products are definitely working their magic!

Thanks CW....how is your journey going?

[dragonracer20]

Congrats on having such a great workout! It always feel good to "be in the zone!"

Your shoulder exercises look solid! Are you doing any shrugs to work those traps?

How was your pump on your arms exercises? Did you notice any increased vascularity?

6 Testx6 tabs! I bet you are having some NICE dreams! Haha. Keep rockin'!

Hey Drooks!!! How are you...the pump was insane felt like they were going to explode!!! my veins were sick!!!! I did do some shrugs must have left it out and the Test X6 was only for 4 caps my mistake....dreams are already crazy enough...thanks for coming by the log

[Credz]

That's good your using more weight. I don't really keep a log either just keep certain numbers in the back of my head. I usually lift as heavy as I can.

[dpressma]

Hey Drooks!!! How are you...the pump was insane felt like they were going to explode!!! my veins were sick!!!! I did do some shrugs must have left it out and the Test X6 was only for 4 caps my mistake....dreams are already crazy enough...thanks for coming by the log

Exploding veins, now that's what's up! TestX6 will make you see some crazy things whn you say goodnight :D

[journey2swole]

Great to hear about the exploding veins, its like magic the way the NO-Beta works. If you really want to feel the most sick intense pump and vascularity of your life you need to try the bulging biceps or thrashing triceps routines posted on the Double-T site. You will want more.

Great workout, love the log for your shoulder and arm day. You look to be on a great track. Keep up the great job and effort.

TestX6 is another great product. I am on my thrid bottle.

[dragonracer20]

Great to hear about the exploding veins, its like magic the way the NO-Beta works. If you really want to feel the most sick intense pump and vascularity of your life you need to try the bulging biceps or thrashing triceps routines posted on the Double-T site. You will want more.

Great workout, love the log for your shoulder and arm day. You look to be on a great track. Keep up the great job and effort.

TestX6 is another great product. I am on my thrid bottle.

Thanks KD...I think i will try bulging biceps and thrashing triceps....thanks for the support....do have a log going?

[Simpy]

Hey Drooks!!! How are you...the pump was insane felt like they were going to explode!!! my veins were sick!!!! I did do some shrugs must have left it out and the Test X6 was only for 4 caps my mistake....dreams are already crazy enough...thanks for coming by the log

Have the dreams gotten more intense since you started taking the TestX6?

[dragonracer20]

Have the dreams gotten more intense since you started taking the TestX6?

I would say so!!! My girlfriend told me that last night i was having and ongoing conversation as if i was awake....I heard people were having crazy dreams but really didnt think much about it until i started taking it....I wake up up ready to go....best sleep in a long time

[Greek_Elite]

I would say so!!! My girlfriend told me that last night i was having and ongoing conversation as if i was awake....I heard people were having crazy dreams but really didnt think much about it until i started taking it....I wake up up ready to go....best sleep in a long time

Yea t he deep sleep/rested feeling is the best aspect of TestX6 for me, nothing like jumping out of bed full of energy rather than having to drag myself up. Gets better as time goes too

[journey2swole]

Thanks KD...I think i will try bulging biceps and thrashing triceps....thanks for the support....do have a log going?

I think you will love the BB and TT workouts. I did a four week run on the TT and loved each week. I did a log for this and it is located at this link

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=457314531#post457314531

I also just completed the last transformation challenge and ran a 10 week log, you can view it here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121754601

[dragonracer20]

Supps
1 Scoop Creadyl Morning
1 Scoop Creadyl before workout
6 caps No Beta prior to workout
3 scoops Glutacene intra workout
Test X6 4 caps...here comes the crazy dreams!!!!

These Supps Rock!!!!!I cant believe the results im getting in just two weeks!!!!!
If anybody has not tried Double T....Get on it....you will not be disappointed

CREADYL:

ENERGY:[10/10]


STRENTGH:[9/10]


FOCUS:[9/10]


ELECTROLYTE BALANCE: [9/10]


MIXABILITY: [9/10]


TASTE: [9/10]



GLUTACENE:

TASTE: (9/10)

RECOVERY: (10/10)


NO BETA:

PUMP: (10/10) INSANE!!!!!

Workout Quads/Hams/Calves
Hack Squats PW
90-10
140-10
180-6
180-7
90-12

Ham Curl
70-10
80-10
90-10
70-12

Leg Press
160-10
200-10
240-8
260-6

Leg Extension Superset Lying Ham Curl
100-12 80-12
100-10 80-10
100-10 80-10
100-10 80-10

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-15
140-12
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10

Seated Calf Raise - PW
90-15
90-12
115-10
115-10
115-10

Great Workout really worked the calves!!!!!

[dpressma]

Looks good man. 6 caps of Beta! No wonder your veins are popping out :eek:

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Great workout and nice review on the products, looks like that double-t stack is taking your training to new heights.

Keep it up!

[kconnell]

What kind of results do you see from the NO-Beta? CreaDyl? Around the workout. I mean. See any size/strength changes?

[cw955588]

Thanks CW....how is your journey going?

I finished about 2 weeks ago and took 1 week off the products. When I got back on it it was back to absolute insanity! I'm now taking KetoCuts, NoBeta, CreaDyl and Glutacene and the numbers I'm hitting in the gym are ridiculous! Double T is the Sh*t... but you already know!! :)

[journey2swole]

Supps
1 Scoop Creadyl Morning
1 Scoop Creadyl before workout
6 caps No Beta prior to workout
3 scoops Glutacene intra workout
Test X6 4 caps...here comes the crazy dreams!!!!

These Supps Rock!!!!!I cant believe the results im getting in just two weeks!!!!!
If anybody has not tried Double T....Get on it....you will not be disappointed

CREADYL:

ENERGY:[10/10]


STRENTGH:[9/10]


FOCUS:[9/10]


ELECTROLYTE BALANCE: [9/10]


MIXABILITY: [9/10]


TASTE: [9/10]



GLUTACENE:

TASTE: (9/10)

RECOVERY: (10/10)


NO BETA:

PUMP: (10/10) INSANE!!!!!

Workout Quads/Hams/Calves
Hack Squats PW
90-10
140-10
180-6
180-7
90-12

Ham Curl
70-10
80-10
90-10
70-12

Leg Press
160-10
200-10
240-8
260-6

Leg Extension Superset Lying Ham Curl
100-12 80-12
100-10 80-10
100-10 80-10
100-10 80-10

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-15
140-12
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10

Seated Calf Raise - PW
90-15
90-12
115-10
115-10
115-10

Great Workout really worked the calves!!!!!

Nice workout bro, looks like you are achieving some great results in both your training and your supplements. Great to hear.

I like your synopsis of the supplements you have detailed here. With taking three scoops of Glutacene how do you feel it is impacting your recovery and your workouts?

[dragonracer20]

What kind of results do you see from the NO-Beta? CreaDyl? Around the workout. I mean. See any size/strength changes?

The size is very noticable and my numbers keep going up on the weights.....I am loving the products....there is no doubt they are working for me

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout bro, looks like you are achieving some great results in both your training and your supplements. Great to hear.

I like your synopsis of the supplements you have detailed here. With taking three scoops of Glutacene how do you feel it is impacting your recovery and your workouts?

I know when i was working out without these products i can feel the fatigue on the 3rd and 4 th sets....but i kill all the sets now and then some.....the recovery is great.....i cant wait to get my hands on some nitromine to add to my stack

[Segansational]

The size is very noticable and my numbers keep going up on the weights.....I am loving the products....there is no doubt they are working for me

^ this. The Creadyl/NO-Beta stack is like no other for making strength increases. I was consistently moving up in weight on major lifts like squats every week.

[journey2swole]

I know when i was working out without these products i can feel the fatigue on the 3rd and 4 th sets....but i kill all the sets now and then some.....the recovery is great.....i cant wait to get my hands on some nitromine to add to my stack

I am a VERY firm advocate of NitroMine, while I am excited about all of the new products lke Betacene that Double-T is releasing here the ONE supplement I feel is custom formulated for me is NitroMine.

In my log for NitroMine combined with the rest of my Double-T stack I was able to move from barbell squats of 180 lbs to 365 lbs in 20 days. The NitroMine helped greatly and the Glutacene made it possible for me to hit the gym everyday without the DOM's being so bad that I had to sit out and recover. I was able to hit new PR's for two weeks straight five days per week on every muscle group.

IMO, this challenge was the greatest experience of my life, stick with it and you WILL accomplish every goal you have! The supplements, the training advice you get from Double-T and a good nutrition plan will give you results you never thought you could achieve.

[dragonracer20]

I am a VERY firm advocate of NitroMine, while I am excited about all of the new products lke Betacene that Double-T is releasing here the ONE supplement I feel is custom formulated for me is NitroMine.

In my log for NitroMine combined with the rest of my Double-T stack I was able to move from barbell squats of 180 lbs to 365 lbs in 20 days. The NitroMine helped greatly and the Glutacene made it possible for me to hit the gym everyday without the DOM's being so bad that I had to sit out and recover. I was able to hit new PR's for two weeks straight five days per week on every muscle group.

IMO, this challenge was the greatest experience of my life, stick with it and you WILL accomplish every goal you have! The supplements, the training advice you get from Double-T and a good nutrition plan will give you results you never thought you could achieve.



180 lbs to 365 lbs in 20 days thats some big numbers!!!!! Good for you man....thanks for following along...i greatly appreciate the help

[Segansational]

180 lbs to 365 lbs in 20 days thats some big numbers!!!!! Good for you man....thanks for following along...i greatly appreciate the help

I gotta get my hands on some NitroMine!

[dpressma]

Nitromine sounds like some serious business!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Nitromine sounds like some serious business!

Agreed, looking to try it to see if I too can double my squat from 615 to a new world record ;).

[dragonracer20]

Agreed, looking to try it to see if I too can double my squat from 615 to a new world record ;).

615!!!! thats some good weight

[ChaseMans]

awesome review on the products, keep up the good work

[Zangeif Lagasse]

615!!!! thats some good weight

Desperately trying to hold onto it as I cut weight, hopefully it doesn't dip under 600lbs because that was a very painful plateau to get over and I don't want to do it again lol.

[THEMANBEAST]

Nitromine sounds like some serious business!

It sure is. I tested a bottle a few months back. It's not going to be a glamourous product, but It is one that works!

[dpressma]

Desperately trying to hold onto it as I cut weight, hopefully it doesn't dip under 600lbs because that was a very painful plateau to get over and I don't want to do it again lol.

Damn bro! That's what's up :D

[EVO-PT]

Desperately trying to hold onto it as I cut weight, hopefully it doesn't dip under 600lbs because that was a very painful plateau to get over and I don't want to do it again lol.

Tell me about trying to keep weights up while cutting - currently about 8 weeks into a cut (trying to get down to 100kgs to do the 100kg div at the powerlifting nationals in australia) and the weights are still coming up but they are starting to feel heavy lol.

I really have to start taking some No-beta before my workouts!

[journey2swole]

180 lbs to 365 lbs in 20 days thats some big numbers!!!!! Good for you man....thanks for following along...i greatly appreciate the help

NitroMine is a supplement you don't feel the immediate effects of like NO Beta or CreaDyl but with use it really is amazing the effects you realize on your training and on your physical appearance. I was able to hit PR's on every muscle group every workout 5 days a week for two full consecutive weeks.


I gotta get my hands on some NitroMine!

Once you do you will not want to run out, too bad it is only in Beta testing at this time.


Nitromine sounds like some serious business!

Bro, you can't even envision what NitroMine will do for you. If you look at Paul's son and the numbers he achieves it starts to show you what the full potential of this supplement is. Jordan (jordansrt) is running a log using NitroMine now, check it out!


Desperately trying to hold onto it as I cut weight, hopefully it doesn't dip under 600lbs because that was a very painful plateau to get over and I don't want to do it again lol.

That is where NitroMine really comes into play, I was at a plateau coupled with being on a seriously calorie restricted diet plan. 1500-1750 calories a day and only getting a carb load on every 18th meal (last meal every third day) and was still able to not only blow past my plateau's but also able to hit PR's I never thought would have been possible.

If Paul called me tonight and offered me a bottle of NitroMine for $100 I would buy everyone he would sell me. Guess I would have to hock the kids and car LOL :)

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Tell me about trying to keep weights up while cutting - currently about 8 weeks into a cut (trying to get down to 100kgs to do the 100kg div at the powerlifting nationals in australia) and the weights are still coming up but they are starting to feel heavy lol.

I really have to start taking some No-beta before my workouts!

Give me a call when you're 56 weeks in and still maintaining strength ;).

[dpressma]

You guys are serisously making me want nitromine too much. When is it going to be available!?

[EVO-PT]

Give me a call when you're 56 weeks in and still maintaining strength ;).

Lol will do bro!

Great job man - great focus.

[dragonracer20]

I am thinking of using Layne Nortons Routine...I have been thinking about hiring him..here is the routine, i think its solid....Any thoughts guys and reps?


Sunday: Upper Power

-5x5 or 3x5 for all lifts(5x5 on bulk cause recovery is better, 3x5 on cut)
-Barbell Bench Press
-Barbell Rows
-Military Press
-Barbell Shrugs

Monday: Lower Power

-5x5 or 3x5 for all lifts(5x5 on bulk cause recovery is better, 3x5 on cut)
-Back Squat
-Stiff Leg Deadlift, Or Romanian DL
-6-8 sets of Standing Calf, little higher reps, i like to do 6-8 on heavy days

Tues: (I usually do some cardio & Abs)

Wednesday: Hypertrophy Chest/Arms

(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before failure)
-DB Incline Bech 3x8-12
-Barbell Close Grip Bench 3x8-12
-DB Flat Bench 2x8-12
-Preacher Curls 3x8-12 super setted with
-Standing French Press 3x8-12
-Push Downs 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Hammer Curls
-Cable Crossovers 3x8-12
-Machine Curl 3x8-12 supersetted with
-Machine Dips 3x8-12

Thursday: Hypertrophy Shoulders/Back/Traps
(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before failure)

-DB Shoulder Press 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Front Raise 3x8-12
-DB One Arm Row 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Arnold Press 3x8-12
-Lat Pull Down (Wide Grip) 2x8-12 super setted with
-DB Shrugs 2x10-15
-Lat Pull Down (Close grip, palms facing in) 2x8-12 super setted with
-DB Upright Row 2x10-15
-T-bar row 2x8-12 (Usually too tired/dead to do this last exercise, but some times i do it)

Friday: Hypertrophy Legs/Calves
(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before
failure)

-Hack Squat 5x8-12 super setted with
-Standing Calf 5x10-15
-Leg Extensions 5x10-15 super setted with
-Sitting Leg Curls 5x10-15 super setted with
-Sitting Calf Raise 4x8-12

Saturday: (cardio & Abs)

[dpressma]

Layne knows what he's doing. How were you planning on hiring him? I can only assume that he is VERY expensive. Good to see barbell rows in the routine! A lot of people stay away from the compounds on back day. BB Rows are probably my favorite exercise :)

[cw955588]

I think it looks amazing and if you are able to hire him... DO IT! I can't even imagine what his diet/training plans paired with Double T supplements would be like! A match made in Heaven LOL!

[journey2swole]

I think you have a good outline here for an exhaustive and complete training program. My only caution would be that you have yourself working pretty hard 7 days per week. I think you may be better off to include at least two rest days to allow your body to recover and to avoid overtraining and the real possibility of injury.

Here is what I finally arrived at and had pretty good success with:

Sunday - rest

Monday- Biceps and Triceps with Cardio

Tuesday - Chest and Abs

Wednesday - Back with Cardio (I went really heavy on back day so that was the only muscle group worked.)

Thursday - Lower body, legs, calves, tib, hips and glutes and Abs.

Friday - Shoulders and Traps going real heavy on both. I did 455lb bb shrugs for 4 to 5 sets of 10 or more reps. with Cardio

Saturday - rest

I did this routine for 10 full weeks and worked an average of 5 routines for 4 sets of 10-12 reps working each muscle group as heavy as possible and working to failure. The last two weeks of my contest period I worked abs 5 days for 3-5 routines with 100 reps per routine. I also did LISS Cardio the last month 5 days for 35-45 minutes.

Again, this is what worked for me and I avoided injury and had sufficient rest time to build muscle and maintain my strength. Experiment with your routine and listen to your body. If you decide to do the 7 day routine don't be afraid to back it down to 4,5 or 6 if you need to to keep your momentum going.

[dragonracer20]

Layne knows what he's doing. How were you planning on hiring him? I can only assume that he is VERY expensive. Good to see barbell rows in the routine! A lot of people stay away from the compounds on back day. BB Rows are probably my favorite exercise :)

I was thinking of hiring through his company Biolayne....its a little pricey but i think well worth it.....I plan on competing in the future and what better trainer than Layne himself....

[journey2swole]

I was thinking of hiring through his company Biolayne....its a little pricey but i think well worth it.....I plan on competing in the future and what better trainer than Layne himself....

Bro, if you can do that then I would say GO for it!! I don't think you can get too much help and if you make the commitment with them then it shows you are completely serious and dedicated. I am sure you will do great.

[drooks10]

I am thinking of using Layne Nortons Routine...I have been thinking about hiring him..here is the routine, i think its solid....Any thoughts guys and reps?


Sunday: Upper Power

-5x5 or 3x5 for all lifts(5x5 on bulk cause recovery is better, 3x5 on cut)
-Barbell Bench Press
-Barbell Rows
-Military Press
-Barbell Shrugs

Monday: Lower Power

-5x5 or 3x5 for all lifts(5x5 on bulk cause recovery is better, 3x5 on cut)
-Back Squat
-Stiff Leg Deadlift, Or Romanian DL
-6-8 sets of Standing Calf, little higher reps, i like to do 6-8 on heavy days

Tues: (I usually do some cardio & Abs)

Wednesday: Hypertrophy Chest/Arms

(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before failure)
-DB Incline Bech 3x8-12
-Barbell Close Grip Bench 3x8-12
-DB Flat Bench 2x8-12
-Preacher Curls 3x8-12 super setted with
-Standing French Press 3x8-12
-Push Downs 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Hammer Curls
-Cable Crossovers 3x8-12
-Machine Curl 3x8-12 supersetted with
-Machine Dips 3x8-12

Thursday: Hypertrophy Shoulders/Back/Traps
(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before failure)

-DB Shoulder Press 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Front Raise 3x8-12
-DB One Arm Row 3x8-12 super setted with
-DB Arnold Press 3x8-12
-Lat Pull Down (Wide Grip) 2x8-12 super setted with
-DB Shrugs 2x10-15
-Lat Pull Down (Close grip, palms facing in) 2x8-12 super setted with
-DB Upright Row 2x10-15
-T-bar row 2x8-12 (Usually too tired/dead to do this last exercise, but some times i do it)

Friday: Hypertrophy Legs/Calves
(For hypertrophy days i never go to failure, always stop about 2 reps before
failure)

-Hack Squat 5x8-12 super setted with
-Standing Calf 5x10-15
-Leg Extensions 5x10-15 super setted with
-Sitting Leg Curls 5x10-15 super setted with
-Sitting Calf Raise 4x8-12

Saturday: (cardio & Abs)

Haha. If this is Layne's routine then you better believe that it is SOLID and well-planned. He and Alan Aragon are 2 of the best contest prep guys around, especially for natural bbers!

Try out his routine, see how your body responds, and adjust to fit your needs.

Make sure to incorporate Double-T's Bulging Biceps, Thrashing Triceps, Slammin' Shoulders, and Crushing Chest routines into your workouts as well. They are killer and will be a real shock for your muscles!

Good luck, bro!

[dragonracer20]

Haha. If this is Layne's routine then you better believe that it is SOLID and well-planned. He and Alan Aragon are 2 of the best contest prep guys around, especially for natural bbers!

Try out his routine, see how your body responds, and adjust to fit your needs.

Make sure to incorporate Double-T's Bulging Biceps, Thrashing Triceps, Slammin' Shoulders, and Crushing Chest routines into your workouts as well. They are killer and will be a real shock for your muscles!

Good luck, bro!

Thanks Drooks!!!!! i will incorporate all the double T workouts...i will alternate and see how that works....Where can i find the double t routines??? How are the young ladies doing??? I wish you guys the best....take care

[drooks10]

Thanks Drooks!!!!! i will incorporate all the double T workouts...i will alternate and see how that works....Where can i find the double t routines??? How are the young ladies doing??? I wish you guys the best....take care

My girls are doing awesome! Thanks for asking!

Here's a link to the workouts. Scroll to bottom of the page to get the other ones.

http://www.double-tsports.com/articles/articles.php?articlelink=no_beta_bicep_train.php

Take care, bro and keep rockin' it!

[Credz]

I second Double T workouts. They are great. The Bicep one is killer, one of my favorite routines.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Thanks Drooks!!!!! i will incorporate all the double T workouts...i will alternate and see how that works....Where can i find the double t routines??? How are the young ladies doing??? I wish you guys the best....take care

Prepare for your arms to explode ;) The Bulging Biceps/Thrashing Triceps are epic routines especially when paired with the Double-T Stack.

[journey2swole]

I have to throw in my full endoresement of the routines. They are the most intense workout you cn get. Make sure you follow the instructions in the workout completely and GO LIGHT on your weight. I know the tendancy is to try to go heavy but after your first superset you will see just how intense the routine is with light weight.

Good Luck and my the NO-Beta be with you :) Let us know how you liked it.

[cw955588]

If you are going to be alternating Layne's workouts with Double T workouts... MAKE SURE you have your Glutacene on deck... because you will need it!!! :)

[dragonracer20]

If you are going to be alternating Layne's workouts with Double T workouts... MAKE SURE you have your Glutacene on deck... because you will need it!!! :)

I never leave home without it!!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Friday:Lower Power

Squats -PW
90-5
140-5
160-5
180-5
200-5

Deadlift - PW
90-5
140-5
160-5
140-5
140-5

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-15
140-15
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10 - Holy Pump

[dragonracer20]

Saturday - Cardio Abs

Decline Weighted Crunches
25-10
25-10
25-10

Cable Crunches
100-10
130-10
130-10

Oblique Raises
45-10
45-10
45-10

Cable Oblique
100-15
100-15
100-15

Hanging Knee Raises
BW-10
BW-10
BW-10

Leg Lifts
15
15
15

[Credz]

Nice! The pump in the calves must have been crazy after all that! Mine get veiny, its awesome haha.

I love doing abs! How was the pump in the abs?

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Two more great workouts and glad you're still getting an epic pump.

[dragonracer20]

Sunday: Hypertrophy Chest & Arms

DB Incline Bench
45-12
50-10
55-10 Going Up In Weight Next Session

Barbell Close Grip Bench - PW
50-12
70-10
70-10

DB Flat Bench
50-12
55-8

Preacher Curls
55-12
65-10
70-10 Going up in weight next session

Standing French Press
20-12
20-12
20-12

Push Down
110-12
128-8
110-10

DB Hammer Curls
30-12
35-10
40-10

Cable Crossover
40-12
50-10
60-6

Machine Curl Superset
60-12
70-10
80-6

Machine Dips
121-12
137-10
151-10

Definitely noticing a positive difference in both size and energy, thanks to the combination of new diet, routine and supplements. Attached pictures for 2 weeks in. Double T stack appears to get better and better as the weeks go by.

[cw955588]

Definitely coming along! Great job! Love the ab routine!

[Credz]

Looking good in those pics! Chest and Arm workout looks good. Good to see you going up in weight! Always a great feeling to add more weight!

[dpressma]

Workouts look good man!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Killing it on the workouts, keep it up bruh.

[EVO-PT]

Looking like a unit man! - solid workout also.

[dragonracer20]

Definitely coming along! Great job! Love the ab routine!

Thanks CW......Ab routine is a killer....almost want to cry!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Looking like a unit man! - solid workout also.

Thanks bro!!!!! The supplements are definitely giving me an edge on the transformation!!!! I appreciate everyone following along...it helps motivate me so i dont disappoint

[dragonracer20]

I am still feeling sore on my back muscles with this routine.....and i have the same muscle group today....I want to workout today!!!! but will i be hurting myself than doing good working on sore muscles...i am feeling off today maybe coming down with something....let me know what you guys think

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I am still feeling sore on my back muscles with this routine.....and i have the same muscle group today....I want to workout today!!!! but will i be hurting myself than doing good working on sore muscles...i am feeling off today maybe coming down with something....let me know what you guys think

No one knows your body better than you, but when your body is telling you that it's sore and in pain I wouldn't strain it by pummeling it more. Get an icy hot patch and see if it's just something mild that'll go away and maybe work out later in the day or try and get into a pool so that you get a good workout in by swimming and at the same time loosen up your back by being in the water.

[journey2swole]

I am still feeling sore on my back muscles with this routine.....and i have the same muscle group today....I want to workout today!!!! but will i be hurting myself than doing good working on sore muscles...i am feeling off today maybe coming down with something....let me know what you guys think

Bro, you can feel the difference between DOM's and something that is more serious like an injury or the start of something that can become an injury. I hear people all the time say to just push through it, but that is VERY BAD advice. you definitely don't want to risk an injury of any sort in this.

You might want to give your back a rest day today and supplement some additional cardio or another muscle group that does not use place the back into a secondary muscle group. If you read some of fitnessman's posts he is a huge advocate of not risking injury. I really appreciate his perspective in this area.

Have an extra dosing of Glutacene and see where you are next week on back day. One workout will not hurt you in the long run as bad as an injury that will keep you out for several weeks.

Let us know how it comes along. Workouts looking awesome here bro, keep it up!

[dragonracer20]

Bro, you can feel the difference between DOM's and something that is more serious like an injury or the start of something that can become an injury. I hear people all the time say to just push through it, but that is VERY BAD advice. you definitely don't want to risk an injury of any sort in this.

You might want to give your back a rest day today and supplement some additional cardio or another muscle group that does not use place the back into a secondary muscle group. If you read some of fitnessman's posts he is a huge advocate of not risking injury. I really appreciate his perspective in this area.

Have an extra dosing of Glutacene and see where you are next week on back day. One workout will not hurt you in the long run as bad as an injury that will keep you out for several weeks.

Let us know how it comes along. Workouts looking awesome here bro, keep it up!


Thanks for the advice!!! and congrats on your 10 week transformation!!! great work

[dragonracer20]

No one knows your body better than you, but when your body is telling you that it's sore and in pain I wouldn't strain it by pummeling it more. Get an icy hot patch and see if it's just something mild that'll go away and maybe work out later in the day or try and get into a pool so that you get a good workout in by swimming and at the same time loosen up your back by being in the water.

Its not really a hurting soreness...its just there i might work through it...or i might sit in the hot tub at the gym and take a swim....

[cw955588]

Its not really a hurting soreness...its just there i might work through it...or i might sit in the hot tub at the gym and take a swim....

That sounds like a very good idea! A swim is still a workout and a nice soak in the hot tub might have you feeling back to 100% tomorrow! :)

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Its not really a hurting soreness...its just there i might work through it...or i might sit in the hot tub at the gym and take a swim....

Hence why no one knows your body better than you :p lol.

[journey2swole]

Its not really a hurting soreness...its just there i might work through it...or i might sit in the hot tub at the gym and take a swim....

You will be the one who knows the limits on your own body and what you can and cannot do safely. Just use good judgement and if it hurts differently than "normal" stop. The swim or hot tub can also help alleviate muscle tension and cramping - but not as good as Glutacene LOL :D

[jovinni]

You will be the one who knows the limits on your own body and what you can and cannot do safely. Just use good judgement and if it hurts differently than "normal" stop. The swim or hot tub can also help alleviate muscle tension and cramping - but not as good as Glutacene LOL :D

Heh, kd you are so hilarious! I say sit in a hot tub while sipping on glutacene :)

[cw955588]

Heh, kd you are so hilarious! I say sit in a hot tub while sipping on glutacene :)

LMAO Jovinni... that sounds like the stuff dreams are made of! :)

[jovinni]

LMAO Jovinni... that sounds like the stuff dreams are made of! :)

Dude if I win, I'm going to fill a hot tub with Glutacene and just sit there sipping through a straw. Now that would be amazing. ;)

[journey2swole]

Dude if I win, I'm going to fill a hot tub with Glutacene and just sit there sipping through a straw. Now that would be amazing. ;)

Now that is a GREAT idea! Maybe at the winners circle in Miami we can fill the hotel hot tub with Glutacene and all sit around and talk about our journey LOL :D

Dragonracer20 - how is the back feeling today?

[dragonracer20]

Now that is a GREAT idea! Maybe at the winners circle in Miami we can fill the hotel hot tub with Glutacene and all sit around and talk about our journey LOL :D

Dragonracer20 - how is the back feeling today?

My back is alot better.....just took it easy yesterday and im back to 100%....thanks for help

[dragonracer20]

Tuesday - Hypertrophy Shoulders-Back-Traps

DB Shoulder Press
40-12
45-10
50-10

DB Front Raise
22.5-12
22.5-10
22.5-10 Going up in weight next session

DB One Arm Row
50-12
55-10
60-10

DB Arnold Press
35-12
35-10
35-10

Lat Pull Down Wide Grip
105-12
120-10 Going up in weight next session

DB Shrugs
50-15
60-10 Going up in weight next session

Lat Pull Down (Close Grip Palms Facing In)
105-12
120-10
135-10

Upright Row
50-15
55-10

I had a great workout today!!! Cant get over how great these supps are working for me!!!!

Creadyl - 1 scoop in morning
Creadyl - 1 scoop 20 min prior to workout
No beta - 6 caps 20 min prior to workout
Glutacene - 3 scoops intra workout
Text x6 - 4 caps bed...

[EVO-PT]

Nice workout mate.

Supp timing is looking great! - can't wait to get on that stack.

[journey2swole]

Nice workout bro, looks pretty solid. Your supplements look pretty solid as well and should be really giving you the boost and push you need as well as the recovery to keep you in the gym every training day.

Keep it up and up those weights you have listed on your next back and shoulder routine day.

[cw955588]

Awesome workout! Psyched you'll be going up in weight! I'll say from experience that it's pretty hard NOT to lift heavier and heavier on this stack! Keep up the great work!

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout mate.

Supp timing is looking great! - can't wait to get on that stack.

Thanks brother.....When are you getting the stack?

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout bro, looks pretty solid. Your supplements look pretty solid as well and should be really giving you the boost and push you need as well as the recovery to keep you in the gym every training day.

Keep it up and up those weights you have listed on your next back and shoulder routine day.

Thanks KD!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Awesome workout! Psyched you'll be going up in weight! I'll say from experience that it's pretty hard NOT to lift heavier and heavier on this stack! Keep up the great work!

Thanks CW!!!! thanks for the support

[Credz]

Nice workout! Always feels nice being able to increase the weight! Looks like you are making great progress still with the Double-T supps!

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout! Always feels nice being able to increase the weight! Looks like you are making great progress still with the Double-T supps!

Thanks Credz!!!! the supps are doing what they are suppose to and very excited with my current stack!!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

I have a question for everyone...... I am having a hard time eating all my food, Im really trying!!!! breakfast forget about it (12) eggs whites, (1) Whole Egg, 1.5 cups green beans, 1tbsp peanut butter and 6.5 oz grapefruit......my caloric intake is 2750...im thinking of lowering it....ehat go you guys think?????

[journey2swole]

I have a question for everyone...... I am having a hard time eating all my food, Im really trying!!!! breakfast forget about it (12) eggs whites, (1) Whole Egg, 1.5 cups green beans, 1tbsp peanut butter and 6.5 oz grapefruit......my caloric intake is 2750...im thinking of lowering it....ehat go you guys think?????

Bro, you are feeling my pain now! It is a lot of food, most people think you will be incredibly hungry but in fact you are so full you want to skip meals.

On the 2750 calorie diet the goal is to consume 49g protein, 30g fibrous carbs and 20g fat in meal 1. Now I agree that 12 egg whites is impossible. I hated eggs after my second breakfast. I supplemented chick breast and other protein sources here. Look at your options, the eBook contains a lot of variations and the diet list that shows the meal items is for reference purposes.

Now, 2750 calories - how did you arrive at that number? I calculate that for your age/height/weight you need 2585 calories daily for maint assuming a 5 day per week intense training schedule. That would put you at 2185 for a cut and 2985 for a bulk to do either safely.

[Simpy]

Dude if I win, I'm going to fill a hot tub with Glutacene and just sit there sipping through a straw. Now that would be amazing. ;)People pee in hot tubs. Just sayin.


I have a question for everyone...... I am having a hard time eating all my food, Im really trying!!!! breakfast forget about it (12) eggs whites, (1) Whole Egg, 1.5 cups green beans, 1tbsp peanut butter and 6.5 oz grapefruit......my caloric intake is 2750...im thinking of lowering it....ehat go you guys think?????

Unless you're trying to cut, I say suck it up and get your calories in. Or, perhaps instead of lowering your caloric intake, you could up the fat a bit. That will take care of some of the volume. How you eat 12 egg whites with only 1 whole is beyond me.

What kind of pumps are you getting in the gym?

[jovinni]

People pee in hot tubs. Just sayin.


It'll be a brand new, never before used hot tub. Duh.

[journey2swole]

It'll be a brand new, never before used hot tub. Duh.

If we don't let J in we should be safe :D

[dragonracer20]

Bro, you are feeling my pain now! It is a lot of food, most people think you will be incredibly hungry but in fact you are so full you want to skip meals.

On the 2750 calorie diet the goal is to consume 49g protein, 30g fibrous carbs and 20g fat in meal 1. Now I agree that 12 egg whites is impossible. I hated eggs after my second breakfast. I supplemented chick breast and other protein sources here. Look at your options, the eBook contains a lot of variations and the diet list that shows the meal items is for reference purposes.

Now, 2750 calories - how did you arrive at that number? I calculate that for your age/height/weight you need 2585 calories daily for maint assuming a 5 day per week intense training schedule. That would put you at 2185 for a cut and 2985 for a bulk to do either safely.

Thanks KD i think im going down to 2500....my goal right now is to cut....after the contest im going to bulk, and do you think i will need to bring it up to 3000 calories?

[tenrep]

Thursday - Off

Friday - Legs

Squats - Plate Weights
90 - 5
140-5
180-3

Hammer Squats - PW
140-9
180-7
180-5

Leg Extensions
80-12
100-12
120-12
140-6

Hack RDL - PW
90-10
140-6
140-6

Ham Curls
85-12
100-10
110-9
110-6
85-12

Seated Calf Raise - PW
140-8
140-8
180-8
180-8
180-8

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-10
115-7
115-7
135-6
90-12

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps- crazy dreams but best sleep in a long time

CREADYL:

ENERGY:[10/10] wanted to keep lifting....


STRENTGH:[9/10] my weight has gone up in only a few days


FOCUS:[9/10]


ELECTROLYTE BALANCE: [9/10]


MIXABILITY: [9/10]


TASTE: [9/10]



GLUTACENE:

TASTE: (9/10)

RECOVERY: (10/10)


NO BETA:

PUMP: (10/10) INSANE!!!!!

Meal 1 6AM
12 Egg Whites
1 Whole Egg
1.5 Cups green beans
1 tbsp peanut butter
6.5 0z grape fruit

Meal 2 9AM
2.5 Myofusion
2 tbsp peanut
1.5 green beans

Meal 3 11AM
canned tuna
1.5 cups green beans
2tbsp

Meal 4 2PM
canned tuna
1.5 cups green beans
8 tsp peanut butter

Meal 5 5PM
canned tuna
24 almonds
1.5 cups green beans

Meal 6
2.5 scoops Myofusion
green beans
18 almonds
6.5 oz grapefruit

Protein 294g
Carbs 120g
Fats 120g

looks like green beans and pnut butter for dinner hows that workin for ya?

[dragonracer20]

looks like green beans and pnut butter for dinner hows that workin for ya?

Its really tough!!!!! i think im going to drop down to 2500 to cut....and i am sick of green beans!!!!!!!!!

[journey2swole]

Thanks KD i think im going down to 2500....my goal right now is to cut....after the contest im going to bulk, and do you think i will need to bring it up to 3000 calories?

Each persons body responds differently and while there are generalities among us each of us has to really experiment and find the exact match where our bodies respond and perform at their best.

My caloric intake is pretty much the same as yours +/- 39 calories daily.

For my cutting phase I did between 1500-1750 calories daily. I found that I had sufficient strength and was still able to increase my chest, shoulder, biceps and quad measurements while my waist measurement went significantly down as did my total body fat composition.

My goal at the moment that I am logging is to loose additional body fat and to gain 10 lbs lean muscle mass. I am still following the cut diet plan and doing 2000 calories daily.

I know there are many well qualified people out here who will say that is not possible and not enough calories, but bottom line it is working for me at the moment. If I see a decline in my muscle gain I will adjust upward but likewise if I see an increase in body fat I will decrease my total intake to find that optimal level.

I am relying very heavy on my supplements to help me achieve this goal, and with the right supplement mix I know that I can do this. It is just finding that correct balance that fits me. I know that NitroMine is really the key compoud that will make this easy, just waiting for it to be released now as I have 7 doses after todays workout this morning.



looks like green beans and pnut butter for dinner hows that workin for ya?

Green beans and PB are a great combination, but I absolutely LOVE green beans or broccoli and Almond Butter FTW!! I just finished some up for meal #3.

[Simpy]

Each persons body responds differently and while there are generalities among us each of us has to really experiment and find the exact match where our bodies respond and perform at their best.

My caloric intake is pretty much the same as yours +/- 39 calories daily.

For my cutting phase I did between 1500-1750 calories daily. I found that I had sufficient strength and was still able to increase my chest, shoulder, biceps and quad measurements while my waist measurement went significantly down as did my total body fat composition.

My goal at the moment that I am logging is to loose additional body fat and to gain 10 lbs lean muscle mass. I am still following the cut diet plan and doing 2000 calories daily.

I know there are many well qualified people out here who will say that is not possible and not enough calories, but bottom line it is working for me at the moment. If I see a decline in my muscle gain I will adjust upward but likewise if I see an increase in body fat I will decrease my total intake to find that optimal level.

I am relying very heavy on my supplements to help me achieve this goal, and with the right supplement mix I know that I can do this. It is just finding that correct balance that fits me. I know that NitroMine is really the key compoud that will make this easy, just waiting for it to be released now as I have 7 doses after todays workout this morning.




Green beans and PB are a great combination, but I absolutely LOVE green beans or broccoli and Almond Butter FTW!! I just finished some up for meal #3.

The problem with this is that it may hinder you for future cuts. That is an incredibly low number of cals for a man your size.

[journey2swole]

Its really tough!!!!! i think im going to drop down to 2500 to cut....and i am sick of green beans!!!!!!!!!

Take the microwave steamer bags of green beans or broccoli and then put 32g PB or Almond butter on them and nuke for another 15 seconds, stir it up and it is great! I grew addicted to this combination.

Take 32g almond butter and put on top your eggs, fold over like an omelet and it will make your eggs sooo good.

Here is a link to some great recipe ideas, many that fit with your macronutrient profile on this diet plan. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112503161

[journey2swole]

The problem with this is that it may hinder you for future cuts. That is an incredibly low number of cals for a man your size.

I am going to make up all my missed and additional calories drinking beer with fitty once I get my invite to camp fitty this year :D

[dragonracer20]

Wednesday

Legs:
Hack Squat Superset - PW
90 - 10
140 - 10
180 -10
180 - 10
200 -10 going up in weight next session

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90 - 15
140 - 12
180 - 10
180 - 10
180 - 10

Leg Extensions Superset
100 - 12
100 - 10
100 - 10
100 - 10 going up in weight next session

Sitting Ham Curls SuperSet
40 - 12
40 - 10
40 - 10
80 - 10
80 - 10 going up in weight next session

Sitting Calf Raise - PW
90 - 15
115 - 12
115 - 10
135 - 10

Getting Stronger on this stack. My weight is increasing weekly which is impressive since legs have typically been my weakest muscle group.

Friday

Cardio/Abs
Decline Crunches Weighted
25 - 10
25 - 10
20 - 10

Cable Crunches
130 - 15
140 - 10
140 - 10

Oblique Side Raises
45 - 10
45 - 10
45 -10

Oblique Crunches
BW - 15
BW - 15
BW - 15

Hanging Knee Raises
BW - 10
BW - 10
BW - 10

Reverse Crunches
BW - 15
BW - 15
BW - 15

20 Min HITT

Ab workout still tough but pushing through.

1 Scoop Creadyl - Morning
1 Scoop Creadyl - 20 minutes before workout
6 caps NO Beta - 20 minutes before workout
3 scoops Glutacine - Intra-workout
4 caps Test X6 - bedtime

[journey2swole]

Nice job on the abs today bro, and great progress on the legs. That is a weak area for many people. I really neglected my legs for too long and after seeing a lot of guys with big upper body development walk around the locker room on chicken legs decided it was time to hit my lower body hard. It is painful but well worth the effort. You will be breaking PR's in that area on a regular basis soon with your stack. I have broke lower body PR's every leg day for the past few weeks and attribute it all to my stack.

[cw955588]

Great job! And sick ab routine!

[EVO-PT]

Id be dead after that ab workout lol - good job man!

[dragonracer20]

Nice job on the abs today bro, and great progress on the legs. That is a weak area for many people. I really neglected my legs for too long and after seeing a lot of guys with big upper body development walk around the locker room on chicken legs decided it was time to hit my lower body hard. It is painful but well worth the effort. You will be breaking PR's in that area on a regular basis soon with your stack. I have broke lower body PR's every leg day for the past few weeks and attribute it all to my stack.

lol i see the chicken leg syndrome all the time at my gym....and i unfortunately was one of them....and now that i seeit on other people i know i made the right choice by putting them in my routine.....I look forward to getting PR's every week....thanks for coming by...everyones replies and support is another big factor in my motivation.....So thanks everyone!!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Great job! And sick ab routine!

Thanks CW.....they about make me cry!!!! so i guess they are working!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Id be dead after that ab workout lol - good job man!

Thanks EVO!!!!!! the glutacene helps me through it......

[EVO-PT]

Thanks EVO!!!!!! the glutacene helps me through it......

Def mate - good job.

Love the Glutacene!

[Credz]

Nice workout! Everythings looking great man! Glutacene is definitely a staple in my supps!

[dragonracer20]

Nice workout! Everythings looking great man! Glutacene is definitely a staple in my supps!

Thanks Credz....Glutacene is no joke!!!!!!

[dragonracer20]

Alright guys.....Have a question???????? I am going out tonight with friends....doing some drinking im sure....Is there a somewhat safe drink (besides water guys!!!!!lol) that has low calories

[cw955588]

Alright guys.....Have a question???????? I am going out tonight with friends....doing some drinking im sure....Is there a somewhat safe drink (besides water guys!!!!!lol) that has low calories

I don't drink anymore but I would suggest straight shots probably vodka... if you need to chase, use diet soda... or ask for a Skinny Girl margarita... your friends will not make fun of you at all for that!!!

[journey2swole]

I don't drink anymore but I would suggest straight shots probably vodka... if you need to chase, use diet soda... or ask for a Skinny Girl margarita... your friends will not make fun of you at all for that!!!

hmmmm, probably not a drink that is ok, all alcohol will stop your bodies ability to burn fat and will be metabolized as sugars which will also be stored as body fat. In addition the alcohol will dehydrate your muscle as well. :(

I would probably go with straight burbon such as Woodford Reserve or something smooth like that. Vodka is processed from potato and is very high in calories and carbs. Chardonney is the wine of choice as it is one with the least calories and carbs beside something like a Merlot which is on the dry side.

Whatever you decide on just do so in moderation and drink plenty of water, it should not set you back.

I have a friend that is a body builder and competes professionally, when he drinks he drinks light reduced calorie beer and for every 12 oz of beer he will drink 3 12 oz glasses of water. Although he drinks maybe twice a year if that.

Good luck!!

[dragonracer20]

I don't drink anymore but I would suggest straight shots probably vodka... if you need to chase, use diet soda... or ask for a Skinny Girl margarita... your friends will not make fun of you at all for that!!!

Skinny Girl!!!!! Yeah im sure the whole bar will not laugh at me!!!!!lol

[Segansational]

I think there are a few companies that make a really low cal beer, MGD 60 and Michelob Ultra are the two I'm thinking of at the moment. Can't comment on the first, but the michelob is awful tasting IMO. Otherwise just go for a bottle of a light beer. But, if you do opt to drink, that'd be the way I'd go.

[aschenbrenner]

lol i see the chicken leg syndrome all the time at my gym....and i unfortunately was one of them....and now that i seeit on other people i know i made the right choice by putting them in my routine.....I look forward to getting PR's every week....thanks for coming by...everyones replies and support is another big factor in my motivation.....So thanks everyone!!!!!!

One of my motivating factors for doing legs is that i've heard doing squats helps with testosterone production, and then there is that chicken leg syndrome lol. The only real reason i work out is so i can kick ass lol and when i come up against those huge guys with the skinny legs they'll stand no chance!

Great log Bro keep it up!

[aschenbrenner]

Alright guys.....Have a question???????? I am going out tonight with friends....doing some drinking im sure....Is there a somewhat safe drink (besides water guys!!!!!lol) that has low calories

Thats how i lost all my weight to begin with was quitting the alcohol and soda/energy drinks- I'm a crazy alcoholic so i don't see the point in drinking one and then drinking a bunch of water! I'd never black out and do all sorts of crazy **** to regret the next day lololol. It sucks to go out with friends that are drinking and abstain your self, but i've found it worth it-

[Simpy]

So what did you end up drinking? I drink vodka and grapefruit juice when I go out and am watching it a bit.

[jordansrt]

Skinny Girl!!!!! Yeah im sure the whole bar will not laugh at me!!!!!lol

Dont listen to women when they tell you what to drink.......skinny girl yea that would go over well

[jovinni]

Missed a chance to reply and not that I am much of a drinker, but you'd be okay to stick with clear alcohol when you're out, even mixed with club soda or diet soda.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Dont listen to women when they tell you what to drink.......skinny girl yea that would go over well

lol yeah, good way to pick up girls is ask for skinny ones at the bar...wait wut?

[cw955588]

Dont listen to women when they tell you what to drink.......skinny girl yea that would go over well

LMAO! Obviously I was kidding... I also told him that he would have no friends left after ordering this!!
But really though... how did it go? What did you end up picking??

[Credz]

So how was the night out? Hope you didn't drink too much haha. I was gonna say just bring a empty beer bottle full of glutacene and sip on it lol How's the workouts coming along?

[journey2swole]

Hey bro, looking forward to an update on what your doing this week. give us an update when you get the opportunity.

[dragonracer20]

Sorry guys took the weekend off....with friends in town

Tuesday Upper Power

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90 - 5
110 - 5
140 - 5
140 - 5

Barbell Rows - PW
Bar - 5
20 - 5
50 - 5
70 - 5
90 - 5

Military Press - PW
50 - 5
90 - 5
110 - 3
90 - 5
90 - 5

Barbell Shrugs - PW - going up in weight next set
90 - 5
130 - 5
180 - 5
180 - 5
180 - 5

Def hard getting back in the gym after taking the weekend off. I won't be doing that again.

[Credz]

Nothing wrong with taking the weekend off. Gives your body a chance to rest up for another week of pain!!!! haha. How was your night out anyway man? Good work out though! Constantly looking good!

[dragonracer20]

Nothing wrong with taking the weekend off. Gives your body a chance to rest up for another week of pain!!!! haha. How was your night out anyway man? Good work out though! Constantly looking good!

the weekend was good....good to see friends from back home....Miss Boston!!!!

How you been Credz???

[Credz]

Boston is great! My aunt and uncle live up near there. Haven't been up there though for a year or so. Love the lobster! haha.

I've good though! Pretty busy with work, but starting to slow down some so overtime isnt needed so now I can get in my morning cardio! lol.

[dragonracer20]

So what did you end up drinking? I drink vodka and grapefruit juice when I go out and am watching it a bit.

I ended up drinking bicardi and cranberry....i did keep it to a minimum and i did some tequila shots

[dragonracer20]

Missed a chance to reply and not that I am much of a drinker, but you'd be okay to stick with clear alcohol when you're out, even mixed with club soda or diet soda.

I wanted to say congrats on your transformation.....you look fantastic!!!!!!!!

[journey2swole]

Hey bro, how is your transformation going? Looking foward to your next update!

[dragonracer20]

I apologize everyone...I have been nursing a couple of injuries....my friends and i thought it would be great to have a flag football game...and i tweaked my back and pulled a muscle in my forearm...not to smart of me to play football with Boston College Football Alumni...I will be back to the gym tonight....and will be posting tonight

[kconnell]

I've missed out, but I'm caught up in your log.

Watch the injuries, bro. You may be getting to excited and wanting to move up in weight on exercises too quickly. You mentioned the Double-T workouts. Those are great and might actually help you heal a little more, since you use a lot less weight and use "pump" sets. As good as they are, don't stay on them for extended periods - you still need heavy training. These routines increase blood in the area and should help heal. Good luck!

[Credz]

Hope the injuries dont hinder your workouts. Looking forward to the update!

[kconnell]

One more thing. You want to add another supplement. Good and bad. I don't know how long you've been on your current stack, but if you introduce too many things, you don't know which one may have helped in a certain area. I would add after a minimum of two weeks, maybe a month.

How long have you been on the current stack?
Great workouts, BTW.

[dragonracer20]

I've missed out, but I'm caught up in your log.

Watch the injuries, bro. You may be getting to excited and wanting to move up in weight on exercises too quickly. You mentioned the Double-T workouts. Those are great and might actually help you heal a little more, since you use a lot less weight and use "pump" sets. As good as they are, don't stay on them for extended periods - you still need heavy training. These routines increase blood in the area and should help heal. Good luck!

I appreciate it!!! sounds like a good idea.....I will try the double t workouts

[dragonracer20]

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps- crazy dreams but best sleep in a long time

Tuesday - Upper Power

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90-5
110-5
140-5
140-5

Barbell Rows - PW
Bar-5
20-5
50-5
70-5
90-5 going up in weight next session

Military Press - PW
50-5
90-5
110-5
110-5
110-5

Barbell Shrugs - PW
90-5
130-5
180-5
230-5 PR
230-5 PR

Lower back felt good today no pain at all........still a little sore on the muscle just below the bicep...

[journey2swole]

Congrats on the PR's! Looks like a pretty solid workout routine.

Keith had some great advice as always here regarding the possibility of injury and the benefit of the Double-T workouts. Stick with it!

[kconnell]

You mentioned not being hungry enought to want to eat. Try eating some fresh pineapple. Not much, but a little helps me - it has a digestive enzyme (bromalian) and makes me more hungry. Also, a little lemon in your drinking water might help.

[dragonracer20]

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps

Wednesday

Lower Power
Squat-PW
90-5
140-5
160-5
180-5
200-5

Deadlifts-PW
90-5
90-5
140-5
90-5
90-5

Standing Calf Raises-PW
90-15
140-15
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10

Lower back started hurting on deadlifts.....So i dropped back to 90 to be able to finish

[dragonracer20]

Congrats on the PR's! Looks like a pretty solid workout routine.

Keith had some great advice as always here regarding the possibility of injury and the benefit of the Double-T workouts. Stick with it!

I will def stick with it!!!!! Thanks for the support

[journey2swole]

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps

Wednesday

Lower Power
Squat-PW
90-5
140-5
160-5
180-5
200-5

Deadlifts-PW
90-5
90-5
140-5
90-5
90-5

Standing Calf Raises-PW
90-15
140-15
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10

Lower back started hurting on deadlifts.....So i dropped back to 90 to be able to finish

Don't you love working your legs? I had a great leg day myself today.

You might want to up your weight load on some of these like your standing calf rasises. A good rule to follow is if you cannot lift 6 reps then you have too much weight, if you can lift 10 or more then your weight is too light. Also in terms of sets try to get 3-5 working sets in for each routine. If you follow the above practice on your weight then this should allow you to work your muscles pretty well and not risk injury.

How do you feel your progress is at this point?

[kconnell]

Legs tomorrow for myself. Pain.
Dragonracer, how long have youbeen on this Double-T stack?

[Credz]

Leg day is always Monday for me! Not big into legs but everytime I start doing them I get into the workout, kinda weird lol. Nice looking workout, My leg workout is kinda similiar I just do Leg Extensions as well and maybe some leg presses.

[dragonracer20]

One more thing. You want to add another supplement. Good and bad. I don't know how long you've been on your current stack, but if you introduce too many things, you don't know which one may have helped in a certain area. I would add after a minimum of two weeks, maybe a month.

How long have you been on the current stack?
Great workouts, BTW.

This past Wednesday will be 4 weeks on the stack

[dragonracer20]

I am pissed that i hurt my back!!!!! i have not been to the gym since Wednesday and do not think i will be back for a couple more days....I will be back not giving up..Im just in alot of pain....I def pinched a nerve....

[jovinni]

Definitely take it easy. You can't mess around when you've got an injured back. Just take it easy, focus on healthy eating and when you're ready to get back in the gym it'll be like you never left :)

[Sandman33]

Kick ass dude! Keep it up!

[journey2swole]

I am pissed that i hurt my back!!!!! i have not been to the gym since Wednesday and do not think i will be back for a couple more days....I will be back not giving up..Im just in alot of pain....I def pinched a nerve....

Really sorry to hear about your back bro, it is really rough to get an injury when you are really into pushing yourself and on program. You definitely need to take care of yourself first and make sure you don't do any additional damage. If you have pinched a nerve you probably need to get in to see your doctor and make sure that you are cleared medically before you try to get back to the gym, if it is muscular then it might be ok but pinched nerves can lead to a lot of other issues and you definitely don't want to mess anything up permanently. Better safe than sorry later.

Call your doctor and get in to see him/her.

[Simpy]

Have you tried the chiropractor?

[dragonracer20]

Really sorry to hear about your back bro, it is really rough to get an injury when you are really into pushing yourself and on program. You definitely need to take care of yourself first and make sure you don't do any additional damage. If you have pinched a nerve you probably need to get in to see your doctor and make sure that you are cleared medically before you try to get back to the gym, if it is muscular then it might be ok but pinched nerves can lead to a lot of other issues and you definitely don't want to mess anything up permanently. Better safe than sorry later.

Call your doctor and get in to see him/her.

I am def disappointed!!!!I was in an accident about three years ago on New Years, my friends and i rented a hummer limo to be safe and we were hit by a drunk driver in a suburban. As the result of the accident, I have two herniated disks which bother me from time to time. I do not want to accept that i have limitations do to my injuries. I have been really motivated and excited with my results, and i hope this recent injury and taking time off at the gym doesnt makes me lose my focus and drive...I might have to change a few of my excercises to prevent further back injuries....I will need some advice on which ones i should substitute....

[dragonracer20]

Have you tried the chiropractor?

I will be going to see if a chiropractor can help

[Credz]

Ah that sucks man! Hopefully the Chiropractor will be able to help you some.

[Simpy]

I will be going to see if a chiropractor can help

Give us and update when you find something out. :)

[journey2swole]

I am def disappointed!!!!I was in an accident about three years ago on New Years, my friends and i rented a hummer limo to be safe and we were hit by a drunk driver in a suburban. As the result of the accident, I have two herniated disks which bother me from time to time. I do not want to accept that i have limitations do to my injuries. I have been really motivated and excited with my results, and i hope this recent injury and taking time off at the gym doesnt makes me lose my focus and drive...I might have to change a few of my excercises to prevent further back injuries....I will need some advice on which ones i should substitute....

That is rough bro, just keep reminding yourself that your working out is helping to keep you in shape and feeling better overall.

Once you see the doc and see what they say we can always provide you some alternative routines that don't strain the back as bad as others.

Let us know when you get some information and take care of yourself.

[kconnell]

Wish I would've caught the post after you hurt yourself. If it is the nerve, then ice is best, especially for the first 24 hours or so. It still may help. Ice reduces the swelling.

Chiro should help.

[dragonracer20]

Well im finally back at the gym....went to the chiropractor and my back was out of alignment and pressing against my nerve!!!! but im back....there is still alittle soreness but i am working through it

5-8-10

Hypertrophy Chest/Arms

DB Incline Bench
50-12
55-10
60-10

Barbell Close Grip Bench - PW
50-12
70-10
70-10

DB Flat Bench
50-12
55-8

Preacher Curls
55-12
65-10
70-10 Going up in weight next session

Skull Crushers
40-12
50-10
60-10

Push Down
110-12
120-10
130-10

DB Hammer Curls
30-12
35-10
40-10

Cable Crossover
40-12
50-10
60-6

Machine Curl Superset
65-12
85-10
95-10

Machine Dips
137-12
151-10
165-10

[Credz]

Glad you got things fixed! Wouldn't mind stopping at a Chiro myself. Great looking workout. How was the pump after this workout?

[dragonracer20]

Sunday - Hypertrophy Shoulders-Back-Traps

DB Shoulder Press
40-12
45-10
50-10

DB Front Raise
20-12
25-10
25-10

DB One Arm Row
50-12
55-10
60-10

DB Arnold Press
30-12
35-10
35-10

Lat Pull Down Wide Grip
120-12
135-10

DB Shrugs
60-15
65-10

Lat Pull Down (Close Grip Palms Facing In)
120-12
120-10
135-10

Upright Row
50-15
55-10 going up in weight next session

Seated Row Machine
90-12
105-10 going up in weight next session


Creadyl - 1 scoop in morning
Creadyl - 1 scoop 20 min prior to workout
No beta - 6 caps 20 min prior to workout
Glutacene - 3 scoops intra workout
Text x6 - 4 caps bed...

[dragonracer20]

Monday-Hypertrophy Legs/Calves 5-10-10

Legs:
Hack Squat Superset - PW
90 - 10
140 - 10
180 -10
180 - 10
230-7

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90 - 15
140 - 12
180 - 10
230- 10
230- 10

Leg Extensions Superset
100 - 12
100 - 10
100 - 10
100 - 10

Sitting Ham Curls SuperSet
80- 12
80- 10
80- 10
80 - 10
80 - 10

Sitting Calf Raise - PW
90 - 15
115 - 12
115 - 10
135 - 10

[kconnell]

You did all this in one day? You must be feeling better! Glad it helped. You might need a follow-up.

[dragonracer20]

Glad you got things fixed! Wouldn't mind stopping at a Chiro myself. Great looking workout. How was the pump after this workout?

Pump was great!!! My chest was swollen....feels good to be back

[dragonracer20]

You did all this in one day? You must be feeling better! Glad it helped. You might need a follow-up.

I do feel better!!!! thanks for asking...I will be seeing the chiro for the next month once a week...I started back to my routine on Saturday....

[journey2swole]

It is great to see you back, glad everything worked out at the Chiro and that it was not anything that required any type of surgery or long term restrictions.

You are definitely back and with a vengence it looks like.

Putting up some great numbers there and doing some great work. Keep it up!!

[Simpy]

I do feel better!!!! thanks for asking...I will be seeing the chiro for the next month once a week...I started back to my routine on Saturday....

Sounds great. I'm looking forward to seeing your new workouts. :)

[dragonracer20]

Sounds great. I'm looking forward to seeing your new workouts. :)

Thanks Simpy....How is your deadlift going???? I believe i remember your were doing a competition...Did you have it yet????

[BPP]

I do feel better!!!! thanks for asking...I will be seeing the chiro for the next month once a week...I started back to my routine on Saturday....

glad to hear it!

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[dragonracer20]

glad to hear it!

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Thanks for stopping by!!! I will try not to disappoint....

[dragonracer20]

Tuesday - Off 5-11-10

Wednesday - Upper Power 5-12-10

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90-5
110-5
140-5
180-2

Barbell Rows - PW
20-5
50-5
90-5
110-5
140-5

Military Press - PW
50-5
90-5
110-5
110-5
140-5

Barbell Shrugs - PW
90-5
140-5
180-5
230-5
230-5

Taking advantage of the promo today!!!!! getting Betacene and nitromine

[journey2swole]

Tuesday - Off 5-11-10

Wednesday - Upper Power 5-12-10

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90-5
110-5
140-5
180-2

Barbell Rows - PW
20-5
50-5
90-5
110-5
140-5

Military Press - PW
50-5
90-5
110-5
110-5
140-5

Barbell Shrugs - PW
90-5
140-5
180-5
230-5
230-5

Taking advantage of the promo today!!!!! getting Betacene and nitromine

Nice workout bro, you will love the Betacene and NitroMine, I tried Betacene for the first time today and it is amazing!

[Credz]

Awesome man! Betacene and NitroMine you will like! Definitely a great promo to hit up.

[kconnell]

I agree - this is one grteat promo.

[drooks10]

Tuesday - Off 5-11-10

Wednesday - Upper Power 5-12-10

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90-5
110-5
140-5
180-2

Barbell Rows - PW
20-5
50-5
90-5
110-5
140-5

Military Press - PW
50-5
90-5
110-5
110-5
140-5

Barbell Shrugs - PW
90-5
140-5
180-5
230-5
230-5

Taking advantage of the promo today!!!!! getting Betacene and nitromine

Looks like you got a good workout in. Like everyone else has said, you are gonna love Betacene and Nitromine. What products did you order to take advantage of the promo?

[kconnell]

Haven't seen a post in a while. Hope you aren't in pain again.

[Credz]

Any new updates man?

[dragonracer20]

Looks like you got a good workout in. Like everyone else has said, you are gonna love Betacene and Nitromine. What products did you order to take advantage of the promo?

I got one jug of wildberry betacene and 2 bottles of nitromine....I'm looking forward to adding these to my current stack

[dragonracer20]

Thursday - off

Friday - Lower power
Back Squat - PW
90-5
140-5
140-5
180-5
180-5

Deadlift - PW
90-5
140-5
170-5
170-5
170-5 took it easy with this one....didnt want to hurt my back...I hate not being able to push

Standing Calf Raise - PW
90-15
140-15
180-10
200-10
250-10 PR
270-10 PR

Felt pretty good today!!!! happy with my PR's

[journey2swole]

I got one jug of wildberry betacene and 2 bottles of nitromine....I'm looking forward to adding these to my current stack

Paul, that is an awesome addition to your stack :cool: Just wait until you get the NitroMine, you will be hitting PR's like a wildman and the Betacene will just intensify that!

[dragonracer20]

Saturday - Hypertrophy Chest/Arms
DB incline
50-12
55-10
60-10 going up in weight next session

Barbell Close Grip Bench -PW
50-12
70-10
90-10 going up in weight next session

DB Flat Bench
50-10
55-8 going up in weight next session

Preacher Curl - PW
50-12
70-10
90-10 PR!!!

Skull Crushes
40-12
50-10
60-10

Pushdown
110-12
120-10
130-10

DB Hammer Curls
30-12
35-10
40-10

Cable Crossovers
40-12
50-10
60-10

Machine Curl
65-12
85-10
95-10

Machine Dip
137-12
151-10
165-10 Going up in weight next session

[dragonracer20]

Paul, that is an awesome addition to your stack :cool: Just wait until you get the NitroMine, you will be hitting PR's like a wildman and the Betacene will just intensify that!

I can't wait until they arrive....How are you doing Ken?

[dragonracer20]

Haven't seen a post in a while. Hope you aren't in pain again.

No i'm not in pain...thank god feel really good....Just been real busy with school and its been screwing up my log time....

[dragonracer20]

Looks like you got a good workout in. Like everyone else has said, you are gonna love Betacene and Nitromine. What products did you order to take advantage of the promo?

I bought Creadyl Orange and 360 count No-Beta!!!

[journey2swole]

I can't wait until they arrive....How are you doing Ken?

I am doing great - keeping busy like everyone else on here. I am in British Columbia this week and working some really weired hours and times but still managing to get into the gym everyday. I have a three hour break so trying to catch up on logs and just got done with a chest workout Ill be posting later once I get onto my laptop.

I ordered 1 Betacene and 3 NitroMine on the promo and can't wait to get home and start back on the NitroMine. I have used it before but not with the Betacene - should be good.

[kconnell]

Nice workouts. How do you plan on incorporating the Betacene in with your current stack? Same days? Off days?

BTW, Betacene Wildberry tastes like candy (fruit punch).

[dragonracer20]

Nice workouts. How do you plan on incorporating the Betacene in with your current stack? Same days? Off days?

BTW, Betacene Wildberry tastes like candy (fruit punch).

Hey Keith!! How are you man??? Well am looking for advice on best time to take the betacene with my current stack...I was advised to take it between breakfast and lunch and workout in the evening as usual....what do you think Keith???

[dragonracer20]

Tuesday - Hypertrophy Shoulders-Back-Traps

DB Shoulder Press
40-12
45-10
50-10 Going up in weight next session

DB Front Raise
20-12
25-10
25-10

DB One Arm Row
50-12
55-10
60-10

DB Arnold Press
30-12
35-10
40-8

Lat Pull Down Wide Grip
120-12
135-10

DB Shrugs
65-15
70-10 Going up in weight next session

Lat Pull Down (Close Grip Palms Facing In)
120-12
135-10

Upright Row
55-15
60-10

Seated Rows
105-12
115-10

[journey2swole]

Hey Keith!! How are you man??? Well am looking for advice on best time to take the betacene with my current stack...I was advised to take it between breakfast and lunch and workout in the evening as usual....what do you think Keith???

I think the best time to take your Betacene is as a pre-workout drink. If you take it 15-20 minutes before your workout then you will realize the full benefit and effect from the formulation.

Give that a try and see what you think, I suspect you will see a tremendous boost in both your energy level and your strength with the addition of this supplement.

[dragonracer20]

I think the best time to take your Betacene is as a pre-workout drink. If you take it 15-20 minutes before your workout then you will realize the full benefit and effect from the formulation.

Give that a try and see what you think, I suspect you will see a tremendous boost in both your energy level and your strength with the addition of this supplement.

I will Def try that...i'm wondering if i should mix it with thr Creadyl.....since i usually drink 1 scoop pre workout....

[dragonracer20]

Creadyl 1 scoop - morning
Creadyl 1 scoop - 1 hour prior workout
No Beta 6 caps - 20 min prior workout
Glutacene 3 scoops - Intra workout
Test X6 4 caps

Tuesday - Upper Power

Barbell Bench Press - PW
Bar - 5
90-5
110-5
140-5
180-2

Barbell Rows - PW
20-5
50-5
90-5
110-5
140-5

Military Press - PW
50-5
90-5
110-5
140-5
140-5

Barbell Shrugs - PW
90-5
140-5
180-5
230-5
250-5 PR!!! Going up in weight next session

Double T products have def surpassed my expectations...I am very happy with the results so far...cant wait to add betacene and nitromine to the regimen

[Credz]

Grats on the PR! You will love Betacene. Im taking it right now. I like it a lot!

[journey2swole]

I will Def try that...i'm wondering if i should mix it with thr Creadyl.....since i usually drink 1 scoop pre workout....

I would not mix the Betacene and CreaDyl since they both contain Beta Alanine and Creatine and if you are using NO Beta the doses are probably too much together.

I take my Betacene pre-workout with my NO Beta and then mix 1 scoop of CreDyl with 3 scoops of Glutacene and sip it intra workout. They are spaced about 20-30 minutes out from each other. This works well for me.

Nice workout.

[dragonracer20]

I would not mix the Betacene and CreaDyl since they both contain Beta Alanine and Creatine and if you are using NO Beta the doses are probably too much together.

I take my Betacene pre-workout with my NO Beta and then mix 1 scoop of CreDyl with 3 scoops of Glutacene and sip it intra workout. They are spaced about 20-30 minutes out from each other. This works well for me.

Nice workout.

Thanks Ken!!!! sounds like a good idea...i will try it and let you know how it goes

[kconnell]

Thanks Ken!!!! sounds like a good idea...i will try it and let you know how it goes

I wouldn't combine them either. Assuming you are working out in the evening, like I do, I would take the BetaCene in between one of your morning meals. Or, you could take it on your non-workout days. Since CreaDyl has stimulants, BA, and a mixture of Creatines, it is best pre-workout, IMO.