Aschenbrenner's Double-T NO Beta/CreaDyl Transformation Contest

[aschenbrenner]

I've been waiting for about a week for my CreaDyl to get here. Today it was like Christmas when I saw the Fed Ex truck pull up. I didn't waste any time I ripped open the box. I hadn't even taken any of the product and I already had a pump going I could just feel what was to come, I couldn't wait to take some and get to the gym.

I mixed up a protein shake and downed it on the way to the gym. Today was leg day and it was awesome! I purchased CreaDyl and GlutaCene Elite. I am not sure if I should be mixing them or not but I like what I read on both reviews. I Mixed a serving of both together with 20oz of water, the Lemon lime and mixed berries tasted alright together. I am not sure if it was because I ate a sandwhich, had a glasss of OJ, and the shake 20 minutes before my work out, but I felt like puking the entire time I was there. It could also have been the awesome leg work out. Tomorrow I will make sure to be more prepared when I get to the gym so I can take the CreaDyle and GlutaCene Elite on an empty stomach.

Work out-

Legpress, Romanian Deadlift, and Standing calf raises with dumbells: Toes strait, pointing in, and pointing out. Super set with a 30 second rest before starting Legpress again.

Legpress
290x15
Romanian Deadlift
55x15
Standing calf raises
Strait- 50x25
In-50x25
Out- 50x25

30sec rest

Legpress
290x15
Romanian Deadlift
55x15
Standing calf raises
Strait- 50x25
In-50x25
Out- 50x25

30 sec rest

Legpress
380x15
Romanian Deadlift
65x15
Standing calf raises
Strait- 50x30
In-50x30
Out- 50x30

Leg curl and extension superset with 30 sec rest

Leg extension
90x15
Leg Curl
90x15

30 sec rest

Leg extension
90x15
Leg Curl
90x15

30 sec rest

Leg extension
110x15
Leg Curl
110x15

Seated calf raise
90x15
90x15
90x15

Lunges with 30lb dumbells
60x30
60x30
60x30


Today was awesome, I had lots of energy through out the entire work out even though I was feeling sick. I am real excited to start this transformation. The prizes get me going but its the journey to getting into shape which I am greatful for. I was sputtering out on motivation a few days ago and then I heard about the Contest and was recharged. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

[aschenbrenner]

My internet was acting up tonight so i couldn't post a log for the day, I'm going to get at it tomorrow morning.

[aschenbrenner]

So yesterday the 18th I was able to take a full dose of both CreaDyl and the GlutaCene Elite and my stomach did not hurt while i was working out. I think it was because of the fact that didn't eat well at all on the 17th and then gourged my self right before i took a protein shake and went to the gym..... I don't eat well on my days off-

For my work out I'm taking a scoop and a half of CreaDyl and 3.5 scoops of ClutaCene with 20oz of water, its a little thick, but bearable.

Yesterday was arms, We train abs first and then alternate work outs between Bi's and Tri's. It was a good day at the gym, after we worked out we had a flex off in the mirror lol. My partner is a short stalky guy so i get a little jealous of his statur, cause i'm so long and lean. Were lifting about the same, he just looks more defined. Every thing was definately swollen on me yesterday and i was able to keep pushing it enough that i finally got the soreness in my arms today that i always get with my chest and legs.

Headed to the driving range now and then to play basketball for a couple hours. No lifting today.

[aschenbrenner]

I'm really struggling lately with food, I'm working two jobs to stay afloat with all the bills i have and i'm about to move to a new place on the first so i've got to save for rent there! So I can't go out and buy alot of healthy food. I do have a friend i met at work that is going to tailor his meal plan to fit me at 196lbs and 12% body fat. This guy is lean and hits the gym 6 times a week.

Other then the diet i'm hitting the gym alot and hard! I know i'm not gonna see any gains till i start eating right again. Today we did Chest Back and Shoulders. I'm not sure what to call some of the exercises that we did but it was a very intense work out. I love the CreaDyl cause even after were completely finished i still have energy. Today was the first day I took two scoops during my work out. The last three times i only took one and a half. and i'm doing just 1 scoop twice a day on off days. I just got back about a half hour ago from the gym and i'm still pumped if i could type with out errors i'm sure i could type well over 200 words per minute lol.

Today was another awesome day and i'm feeling great about the weeks to come, Just gotta start eating right!

[aschenbrenner]

It occured to me that I should mention that i work at a casino as a slot tech for 10 hours and i'm on my feet walking around then entire time, I went to the gym after I got off work and I still have this level of energy.

[aschenbrenner]

I didn't work out yesterday because my schedule was changed at work and I didn't have time to get in there. I will not sacrafice my sleep for anything lol. I have to get 8 hours or i get really cranky haha. I'm off at 8 tonight and headed strait to the gym. Today is leg day, Gonna hit the squat hard until i cannot walk and then i'll crawl out of the gym and tell you about it.

[jordansrt]

It occured to me that I should mention that i work at a casino as a slot tech for 10 hours and i'm on my feet walking around then entire time, I went to the gym after I got off work and I still have this level of energy.

I know how you feel about standing for 10 hours then lifting, i hated doing cardio after standing for 12 hours at my job. How are you liking the products?

[aschenbrenner]

I know how you feel about standing for 10 hours then lifting, i hated doing cardio after standing for 12 hours at my job. How are you liking the products?

I'm loving the products! I'm getting alot better work outs I feel the intensity i'm getting from the Creadyl. I'm not lifting heavier weights but i'm lifting more and like i said the intensity is great. I was out of the gym for the past three days because i'm moving. I got back in there this morning and did a quick chest and back work out which was awesome. I've started flexing in the mirror for about 10 minutes after every work out envisioning what i want to look like. I've started training abs first which is working well for me. I've already seen gains on my arms, quarter inch on the right arm and half inch on the left. I've also stopped doing sets and giong for a set amount of reps. I'm just lifting what i know works and trying to concentrate on getting huge lol

[Lucky_ROA]

I'm loving the products! I'm getting alot better work outs I feel the intensity i'm getting from the Creadyl. I'm not lifting heavier weights but i'm lifting more and like i said the intensity is great. I was out of the gym for the past three days because i'm moving. I got back in there this morning and did a quick chest and back work out which was awesome. I've started flexing in the mirror for about 10 minutes after every work out envisioning what i want to look like. I've started training abs first which is working well for me. I've already seen gains on my arms, quarter inch on the right arm and half inch on the left. I've also stopped doing sets and giong for a set amount of reps. I'm just lifting what i know works and trying to concentrate on getting huge lol

Sounds like the stack is working just like its supposed to :D Any chance we can get the #s on your chest/back workout :)

[aschenbrenner]

Sounds like the stack is working just like its supposed to :D Any chance we can get the #s on your chest/back workout :)

I've been reading alot about working out vs training- so i stoped keeping track of what i'm lifting sets reps and weight-

Had an awesome arm work out last night and this morning was chest and back again- I started doing a different ab work out. I'm still training abs first so i can isolate them which seems to be working.

I put up 205 on flat BB bench 10 times with out a spot today which is fricken awesome for me my old max was 235. Today i was doing 1 arm flab DB bench presses, Those are a killer for my core.

I've put on a quarter inch on my right are and a half inch on my left since i started 3 weeks ago. I'm loving this stuff!

My goal is 17 inch arms, i'm at 15.25 right now on both. I'd like to see some more size to my back, and i'd like a better shape to my chest.

[Lucky_ROA]

^ Looks good and best of luck with your goal !!!! How are you currently dosing the stack ?

[aschenbrenner]

^ Looks good and best of luck with your goal !!!! How are you currently dosing the stack ?

On days i hit the gym in the morning- 2 Scoops CreaDyl for pre/during training, and 1 scoop after lunch. I'm taking three scoops of the GlutaCene Elite after my after lunch meal if that makes sense =) I'm eating about every two hours- I know i'm a hog lol!

When I have to go to the gym late at night i only use 1 scoop early in the day and then another 1 during work out otherwise i cannot sleep. I'm always taking three scoops GlutaCene Elite during the day, I do not take it during the work out because i was mixing the two in one shaker and it was not very tasty =) I hope i don't lose too much of the effect of the GlutaCene Elite. Am I wasting the product using it this way?

[Lucky_ROA]

On days i hit the gym in the morning- 2 Scoops CreaDyl for pre/during training, and 1 scoop after lunch. I'm taking three scoops of the GlutaCene Elite after my after lunch meal if that makes sense =) I'm eating about every two hours- I know i'm a hog lol!

When I have to go to the gym late at night i only use 1 scoop early in the day and then another 1 during work out otherwise i cannot sleep. I'm always taking three scoops GlutaCene Elite during the day, I do not take it during the work out because i was mixing the two in one shaker and it was not very tasty =) I hope i don't lose too much of the effect of the GlutaCene Elite. Am I wasting the product using it this way?

To fully utilize the the products I would use CreaDyl pre and GlutaCene IntraWorkout.

[aschenbrenner]

To fully utilize the the products I would use CreaDyl pre and GlutaCene IntraWorkout.

I'll try that for a while and see how it works, Thanks!

[cw955588]

To fully utilize the the products I would use CreaDyl pre and GlutaCene IntraWorkout.

^ I definitely agree with that! I'm interested to hear how it works out for you! Looks like you are putting in some work here! Good luck!

[journey2swole]

Great workouts bro, sounds like you are enjoying your stack and they supplements are working for you. Nice workouts starting out. Good luck on your transformation. What are your specific goals? Do you have a training and nutrition plan? Any of the Double-T reps are more than willing to assist you in any of these areas to make the most out of your challenge experience.

Keep up the great work and keep us posted on your progress.

[ChaseMans]

Looks like your making awesome progress and loving the stack. Good luck man, and keep that beastly eating up.

[maxrx]

On days i hit the gym in the morning- 2 Scoops CreaDyl for pre/during training, and 1 scoop after lunch. I'm taking three scoops of the GlutaCene Elite after my after lunch meal if that makes sense =) I'm eating about every two hours- I know i'm a hog lol!

When I have to go to the gym late at night i only use 1 scoop early in the day and then another 1 during work out otherwise i cannot sleep. I'm always taking three scoops GlutaCene Elite during the day, I do not take it during the work out because i was mixing the two in one shaker and it was not very tasty =) I hope i don't lose too much of the effect of the GlutaCene Elite. Am I wasting the product using it this way?

First, GlutaCene should be the most amazing tasting supplement you have ever taken the key like anything else is that you use enough water and in your case sounds like you are using to little. Mix until you like the taste - let us know how that works.

Next, As much as possible you want to take all your servings DURING the workout. The Glutamine in there is to help mitigate excessive micro-trauma that will otherwise occur. You sip it in between sets and this prevents prematurely dumping glutamine from muscle back into circulation. If you can't get to sleep see whatelse you are using. GlutaCene has no stimulants. Keep training hard bro.

[Credz]

Great workouts so far. I'm subbed! How do you like the taste of GlutaCene so far?

[Synapsin]

What is your training routine? Post it up and I can help you create a better one if need be, and I can also help with your diet if you'd like.

[Greek_Elite]

Have you always worked out late at night? I notice if I do I cant sleep, even though Im physically tired my mind/body wont let me fall asleep. And like maxrx said there's no stims so maybe a different supplement?

Whats you diet and training like btw?

Good luck with the contest!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Have you always worked out late at night? I notice if I do I cant sleep, even though Im physically tired my mind/body wont let me fall asleep.

x2

The energy and pump pretty much wakes you up whether you want to be awake or not. Subbed and will be following along. How's your recovery improvement since starting the glutacene btw?

[Synapsin]

One thing to help with sleep is trying to increase your sleep efficiency if you are only able to work out in the pm.

[Segansational]

What is your training routine? Post it up and I can help you create a better one if need be, and I can also help with your diet if you'd like.

Yeah, post up your routine. What kind if a split are you doing? And I would highly encourage you to keep a workout journal. I find it really helps to remember what you lifted previously and so you know when to adjust lifts as necessary.

[Synapsin]

Yeah, post up your routine. What kind if a split are you doing? And I would highly encourage you to keep a workout journal. I find it really helps to remember what you lifted previously and so you know when to adjust lifts as necessary.

Yes, exactly :) It also helps you see how much you are improving. It may not seem like you're improving much but when you look at stuff you did 3 months in the past, you'll be amazed at how well you may have done even though you don't normally think it.

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you all for your support! I do not have the internet at home right now because i just moved, tomorrow i'm gonna call the phone company and get it hooked up!

I do not have a diet plan, I have been working on that I figured out the amount of calories i need to take in to gain 1.5 lbs per week but i don't know what food i'm gonna eat yet. A little short on cash because i had to buy some vitamins and more CreaDyl, that stuff goes fast lol.

I'm working out 5 or 6 days a week, usually before work, I do Chest and back, then legs and shoulders, then arms, and i just keep repeating this cycle whether i miss a day or not.

I started taking the CreaDyl pre work out and the GlutaCene during and it seems to be working good, Other then the fact that not having taken two scoops of CreaDyl while not working out. I was getting super hot and itchy! It wasn't that bad but I really wanted to be in the Gym.

The GlutaCene does taste good but it is realy sweet, I'm gonna try mixing it with more water. I'm really liking the muscle recovery and results i've gotten so far, I'm leaner and bigger and i'm loving it.

[aschenbrenner]

I'm just gonna throw this up here, I usally do variations of this what ever i feel like doing on the day

Chest and back day

Flat bech, Db or BB
Pull ups
cable flys, Center lower and upper
bent rows with DB or BB
Decline or incline depending on what i did last chest day and either BB or DB if i have spotter or not
Lat pull or- I'm not sure what to call them but using the cable and arms strait out you pull down with your lats
Push ups to burn out at the end

Leg and shouler
Squat
leg extension
leg curl
romainian deadlist
leg press
standing calf raises toes in toes out toes strait
seated calf raise
arnold press
front raises
machine press
standing bent fly's
shrugs
and the past week i've been taking 10lb DB in each hand and holding them strait out for as long as possible

Arm day

isolation Bicept
Tri kick backs
hammer curl
Cable rope push downs
4 sets 8 reps 30 sec rest after all four

preacher curl
dips

Thats about it, I put what ever weight i'm feeling on and try to burn out never going over 15 and i try to make a note of that so i put on more next time.

[Credz]

That's great. The recovery with GlutaCene is great. How does it compare to other recovery products you've tried? Looking good so far!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

For your training routine, you'll see better results if you start with your heavy compounds and then move to your isolations, working from the inside out, but looks fine split wise.

Keep up the good work.

[Segansational]

For your training routine, you'll see better results if you start with your heavy compounds and then move to your isolations, working from the inside out, but looks fine split wise.

Keep up the good work.

I'd also recommend doing all of your chest exercises in a row, thn switching to the back exercises rather than doing every other. You might not be able to use as much weight on the 2nd and 3rd exercises, but you'll get better results IMO.

[ChaseMans]

Seems like everything is going awesome and yes sometimes the glutacene just takes some water adjusting to get the taste to your liking. So far so good though keep it up bro.

[journey2swole]

Thank you all for your support! I do not have the internet at home right now because i just moved, tomorrow i'm gonna call the phone company and get it hooked up!

I do not have a diet plan, I have been working on that I figured out the amount of calories i need to take in to gain 1.5 lbs per week but i don't know what food i'm gonna eat yet. A little short on cash because i had to buy some vitamins and more CreaDyl, that stuff goes fast lol.

I'm working out 5 or 6 days a week, usually before work, I do Chest and back, then legs and shoulders, then arms, and i just keep repeating this cycle whether i miss a day or not.

I started taking the CreaDyl pre work out and the GlutaCene during and it seems to be working good, Other then the fact that not having taken two scoops of CreaDyl while not working out. I was getting super hot and itchy! It wasn't that bad but I really wanted to be in the Gym.

The GlutaCene does taste good but it is realy sweet, I'm gonna try mixing it with more water. I'm really liking the muscle recovery and results i've gotten so far, I'm leaner and bigger and i'm loving it.

Definitely try mixing in a little more water with the Glutacene. I found the taste a little sweet at first as well but now am mixing 3 scoops with about 20 oz of water and it is a perfect blend for me. Not too sweet but not watered down any either.

Your routine looks good, how do you feel it is matched to your goals?

I used the cut diet you can find it and download the ebook at www.cutdiet.com it worked really well for me and I stuck to it very tightly. It took about two full weeks for my energy level to get adjusted but once I had that it did great.

[Synapsin]

I'd also recommend doing all of your chest exercises in a row, thn switching to the back exercises rather than doing every other. You might not be able to use as much weight on the 2nd and 3rd exercises, but you'll get better results IMO.

Yes, I agree with this, although I'd rather you make it a 4 day split and get back and chest days on their own days.

[aschenbrenner]

I'd also recommend doing all of your chest exercises in a row, thn switching to the back exercises rather than doing every other. You might not be able to use as much weight on the 2nd and 3rd exercises, but you'll get better results IMO.

Won't that make me weaker when i get to the back? thats why i try to do the major lifts first one back and chest day, I'm open to trying other things if you don't think that will effect how well my back gets worked?

[aschenbrenner]

For your training routine, you'll see better results if you start with your heavy compounds and then move to your isolations, working from the inside out, but looks fine split wise.

Keep up the good work.

Do others agree with this statment? I've got a friend at work that has been helping me structure my work outs and he is an advocote for isolations first-

[aschenbrenner]

That's great. The recovery with GlutaCene is great. How does it compare to other recovery products you've tried? Looking good so far!

I can't really compare it to other recovery products because i've never taken any, I was taking animal pump for a few months and liked the results but they were nothing like what i'm having now!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Won't that make me weaker when i get to the back? thats why i try to do the major lifts first one back and chest day, I'm open to trying other things if you don't think that will effect how well my back gets worked?

You're doing push pull when you're doing back and chest on the same day so doing all your chest and then all your back in a row is counter intuitive to the point of this type of training.

[aschenbrenner]

You're doing push pull when you're doing back and chest on the same day so doing all your chest and then all your back in a row is counter intuitive to the point of this type of training.

So spliting it up like i do is good right? Your response kinda confused me, and that is why i go back and forth and some times i'll do super sets of chest then back-

[aschenbrenner]

Definitely try mixing in a little more water with the Glutacene. I found the taste a little sweet at first as well but now am mixing 3 scoops with about 20 oz of water and it is a perfect blend for me. Not too sweet but not watered down any either.

Your routine looks good, how do you feel it is matched to your goals?

I used the cut diet you can find it and download the ebook at www.cutdiet.com it worked really well for me and I stuck to it very tightly. It took about two full weeks for my energy level to get adjusted but once I had that it did great.

Thanks for the question about matching my goals, I need to look into that more to find out if it is going to help my goals, and i will take a look at the cutdiet site.
THanks

[Zangeif Lagasse]

So spliting it up like i do is good right? Your response kinda confused me, and that is why i go back and forth and some times i'll do super sets of chest then back-

personally I don't like push-pull routines, but if you're doing push-pull (chest is push; back is pull) then yeah you alternate chest/back/chest/back.

[aschenbrenner]

personally I don't like push-pull routines, but if you're doing push-pull (chest is push; back is pull) then yeah you alternate chest/back/chest/back.

I think its working good for me so far, I've done different workouts before, i was doing 1 muscle group per day 5 or 6 days a week, I've done back and bi's, chest and tri, legs and shoulders, But so far doing it like the way i am now i like it the best.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I think its working good for me so far, I've done different workouts before, i was doing 1 muscle group per day 5 or 6 days a week, I've done back and bi's, chest and tri, legs and shoulders, But so far doing it like the way i am now i like it the best.

Then keep it up, for the most part, no two people are the same and no two people respond the same to the exact same training regimen, thus you need to find what works for you and stick to it.

[aschenbrenner]

Then keep it up, for the most part, no two people are the same and no two people respond the same to the exact same training regimen, thus you need to find what works for you and stick to it.

Thanks alot for your help and encouragement!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Thanks alot for your help and encouragement!

Anytime ;).

[aschenbrenner]

Finally got the meal plan from a friend at work, gonna go shopping and pick the stuff up tonight

meal 1

3/4 cup Textured vegatble protein
3/4 cup oats
1 1/2 cup almond milk
2 flax or fish oil

meal 2
1 cup liquid egg white or 8 hard boiled egg whites
1 cup oats
1 cup almond milk

meal 3
6 oz chicken breast
1/4-1/2 cup dry rice
3 fish or flax

meal 4
8 oz chicken
2 cups raw or lightly steamed brocoli
3 fish or flax tabs

meal 5
8 oz chicken
2 cups brocoli

meal 6 pre workout 3 hours prior
8 oz chicken
3 fish or flax tabs

pre work out 2 scoops CreaDyl
During work out 3.5 scoops Glutacene

meal 7 post work out
2 cups rice milk
2 scoops isolate protein

Any thoughts, He had mentioned subing Fish for the chicken at some times and then eliminating the fat tabs-

[Greek_Elite]

I would bring in very little complex carbs in your pre-workout meal, which should be about 2 hours before your workout. And towards the end cut out some/all of the rice milk (cuz of the carbs), even though PWO every calorie will count.

I would also suggest trying to squeeze in some low-fat cottage cheese or Greek yogurt (basically a slow digesting whole food protein) to have before bed. Just a little bit since you dont want to be full going to sleep, but just for a little extra protein.

[drooks10]

Finally got the meal plan from a friend at work, gonna go shopping and pick the stuff up tonight

meal 1

3/4 cup Textured vegatble protein
3/4 cup oats
1 1/2 cup almond milk
2 flax or fish oil

meal 2
1 cup liquid egg white or 8 hard boiled egg whites
1 cup oats
1 cup almond milk

meal 3
6 oz chicken breast
1/4-1/2 cup dry rice
3 fish or flax

meal 4
8 oz chicken
2 cups raw or lightly steamed brocoli
3 fish or flax tabs

meal 5
8 oz chicken
2 cups brocoli

meal 6 pre workout 3 hours prior
8 oz chicken
3 fish or flax tabs

pre work out 2 scoops CreaDyl
During work out 3.5 scoops Glutacene

meal 7 post work out
2 cups rice milk
2 scoops isolate protein

Any thoughts, He had mentioned subing Fish for the chicken at some times and then eliminating the fat tabs-

Congrats on getting a plan together!

Here are some of my suggestions:

* Healthy fats needed besides fish/flax tabs. Try natty peanut butter/almond butter

* Why veggie protein for 1st meal?

* Definitely utilize fish (Tilapia - yum, yum)!

* How long after your workout until bedtime?

Good luck, bro!

[aschenbrenner]

I would bring in very little complex carbs in your pre-workout meal, which should be about 2 hours before your workout. And towards the end cut out some/all of the rice milk (cuz of the carbs), even though PWO every calorie will count.

I would also suggest trying to squeeze in some low-fat cottage cheese or Greek yogurt (basically a slow digesting whole food protein) to have before bed. Just a little bit since you dont want to be full going to sleep, but just for a little extra protein.

I will def add the cottage cheese right before i go to sleep so my muscles don't go catabolic, thanks for pointing it out.

I thought for muscle building you need a healthy amount of carbs and protiens post work out?

[aschenbrenner]

Congrats on getting a plan together!

Here are some of my suggestions:

* Healthy fats needed besides fish/flax tabs. Try natty peanut butter/almond butter

* Why veggie protein for 1st meal?

* Definitely utilize fish (Tilapia - yum, yum)!

* How long after your workout until bedtime?

Good luck, bro!

It will be an hour or two before bed-

Lol i don't know why the Veggie protein its just something he swears by and he is in very good shape-

I will def add in some fish because i don't want to eat chicken for four meals a day

When would you suggest the peanut butter? I think i'm in love with it, up till now i've been having a peanut butter sandwhich on whole wheat and a glass of milk before bed every night lol

[Zangeif Lagasse]

It will be an hour or two before bed-

Lol i don't know why the Veggie protein its just something he swears by and he is in very good shape-

I will def add in some fish because i don't want to eat chicken for four meals a day

When would you suggest the peanut butter? I think i'm in love with it, up till now i've been having a peanut butter sandwhich on whole wheat and a glass of milk before bed every night lol

That veggie protein is pretty broscientific. I'm a firm follower of poliquin for the best way to starting the day being protein and fat. Meat and nuts or eggs always helps start the day off on the right foot, especially with some oats on the side.

[drooks10]

It will be an hour or two before bed-

Lol i don't know why the Veggie protein its just something he swears by and he is in very good shape-

I will def add in some fish because i don't want to eat chicken for four meals a day

When would you suggest the peanut butter? I think i'm in love with it, up till now i've been having a peanut butter sandwhich on whole wheat and a glass of milk before bed every night lol

I'm not familiar enough with veggie protein to say anything against it, but it sounds strange. Haha. Whey is faster digesting and may be better for meal 1 since that is when your body is in the most-need for nutrients.

I would say eat something pre-bed. A Small meal with 30 g protein and 10 g fat or so. This will help through the night.

Use PB whenever, man! You can eat it with every meal if you want. Just make sure it's natty. Don't overdo it either. I wouldn't have more than 32 g per meal (2 tablespoons).

Good luck!

[cw955588]

I'm not familiar enough with veggie protein to say anything against it, but it sounds strange. Haha. Whey is faster digesting and may be better for meal 1 since that is when your body is in the most-need for nutrients.

I would say eat something pre-bed. A Small meal with 30 g protein and 10 g fat or so. This will help through the night.

Use PB whenever, man! You can eat it with every meal if you want. Just make sure it's natty. Don't overdo it either. I wouldn't have more than 32 g per meal (2 tablespoons).

Good luck!

Anything this guys says about peanut butter is 100% truth... Drooks knows peanut butter!!!

[drooks10]

Anything this guys says about peanut butter is 100% truth... Drooks knows peanut butter!!!

Haha. Thanks CW! I do have a nice love affair with PB! My wife approves though, so it's ok!

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you guys for your help!

[journey2swole]

It will be an hour or two before bed-

Lol i don't know why the Veggie protein its just something he swears by and he is in very good shape-

I will def add in some fish because i don't want to eat chicken for four meals a day

When would you suggest the peanut butter? I think i'm in love with it, up till now i've been having a peanut butter sandwhich on whole wheat and a glass of milk before bed every night lol

I can vouch that peanut butter is great and also very addictive. It is one item on the cut diet plan for 10 weeks that I did not grow tired of. Also almond butter is great too. I found a local strore here with it on clearance and bought every jar they had. I put it on everything from eggs to broccoli and it just kept getting better and better.

[dpressma]

Almond slices anyone?

[Greek_Elite]

I will def add the cottage cheese right before i go to sleep so my muscles don't go catabolic, thanks for pointing it out.

I thought for muscle building you need a healthy amount of carbs and protiens post work out?

For bulking PWO carbs are ideal, but for Transformation/cutting they help, but are not needed.. Some diets say that you don't count the carbs because they're just used to replenish glycogen (but you still count the cals) others say nothing bout it.

Personally, 2 scoops whey/Iso PWO followed by a whole food/meal is perfect for me..

I 2nd the questioning of the veggie protein, just sounds nasty haha but if it helps with your greens/fruit intake, then why not, but maybe mix with some whey

Btw whats your cardio looking like?

[EVO-PT]

Almond slices anyone?

MMMMMM almond slice! so good!


Sick log man - def following this!

[aschenbrenner]

For bulking PWO carbs are ideal, but for Transformation/cutting they help, but are not needed.. Some diets say that you don't count the carbs because they're just used to replenish glycogen (but you still count the cals) others say nothing bout it.

Personally, 2 scoops whey/Iso PWO followed by a whole food/meal is perfect for me..

I 2nd the questioning of the veggie protein, just sounds nasty haha but if it helps with your greens/fruit intake, then why not, but maybe mix with some whey

Btw whats your cardio looking like?

My cardio is non existant, other then a 15 to 20 min walk in the woods with the dogs every couple days. I'm not a fan of cardio, i've gotten to where i am with out it, and i've read that is all about burning more calories then i take in, so i'm not gonna run lol

[aschenbrenner]

For bulking PWO carbs are ideal, but for Transformation/cutting they help, but are not needed.. Some diets say that you don't count the carbs because they're just used to replenish glycogen (but you still count the cals) others say nothing bout it.

Personally, 2 scoops whey/Iso PWO followed by a whole food/meal is perfect for me..

I 2nd the questioning of the veggie protein, just sounds nasty haha but if it helps with your greens/fruit intake, then why not, but maybe mix with some whey

Btw whats your cardio looking like?

I'm pretty cut as it is, i want to put on some size, and thats why the use of the rice milk because its a quick digesting carb right after the work out so its absorbed quickly. Maybe i'm confused about the contest? can't a trasnformation go either way?

[Synapsin]

Do others agree with this statment? I've got a friend at work that has been helping me structure my work outs and he is an advocote for isolations first-

Yes absolutely, compounds work much more muscles than isolation, and require longer breaks because they are very physically taxing.

[Greek_Elite]

I'm pretty cut as it is, i want to put on some size, and thats why the use of the rice milk because its a quick digesting carb right after the work out so its absorbed quickly. Maybe i'm confused about the contest? can't a trasnformation go either way?

technically/by definition a transformation is biggest change, but I have seen numerous contests say "transformation" and pretty much focuses on cutting. I could be wrong though, something to have a DT Rep comment on, but just keep it in mind. If you are going for the bulk than the PWO rice milk is good, I just thought/assumed you were cutting since you cut carbs out pretty much after meal 3 or so, so you were keepings carbs early in the day just for energy and not eating them later as to limit cals and carbs. If you are doing a true bulk transformation though, if that is 'accepted' for the contest, than I would definitely in some more complex carbs pre-workout for added energy and cals.


Yes absolutely, compounds work much more muscles than isolation, and require longer breaks because they are very physically taxing.

Yes, compound before Isolation. Idea is to go all out basically for compound and then simply DESTROY with isolation.

[aschenbrenner]

MMMMMM almond slice! so good!


Sick log man - def following this!

Thanks alot!

[journey2swole]

This contest is has several categories in which you can register to accomplish the goals you seek. There is a men's body building which would be geared toward bulking up and building muscle and size and there is a mens fitness which is probably geared more toward those looking to make a cut.

This contest has a place for everyone according to their goals. From what I am reading in your posts I am assuming you are probably entered in the contest with the goal of body building?

[aschenbrenner]

technically/by definition a transformation is biggest change, but I have seen numerous contests say "transformation" and pretty much focuses on cutting. I could be wrong though, something to have a DT Rep comment on, but just keep it in mind. If you are going for the bulk than the PWO rice milk is good, I just thought/assumed you were cutting since you cut carbs out pretty much after meal 3 or so, so you were keepings carbs early in the day just for energy and not eating them later as to limit cals and carbs. If you are doing a true bulk transformation though, if that is 'accepted' for the contest, than I would definitely in some more complex carbs pre-workout for added energy and cals.



Yes, compound before Isolation. Idea is to go all out basically for compound and then simply DESTROY with isolation.

I think my buddy knows what he's talking about from listening to him about isolations, but of course thats just his experience. I agree totaly with doing compounds first and thats how i use to do it untill about two weeks ago. I'm gonna try it his way for a bit to see my results and see if i should revert back to hitting isolations last-

The diet as i understand is for a slow lean bulking, and thats really what i want, Id like to cut my BF down to 8% and gain about 5 to 10 lbs in the process-

I've since tweaked the meal plan a little after every ones suggestions, i bought some greek yogurt, but i'm a little worried about the sugar that late at night? And i'm doing a 50g protein shake first thing when i wake up to get my metabolism going-

[aschenbrenner]

This contest is has several categories in which you can register to accomplish the goals you seek. There is a men's body building which would be geared toward bulking up and building muscle and size and there is a mens fitness which is probably geared more toward those looking to make a cut.

This contest has a place for everyone according to their goals. From what I am reading in your posts I am assuming you are probably entered in the contest with the goal of body building?

I am def body building- But i entered into the transformation contest-

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you everyone for all your input i'm trying to be as humble as possible and assimilate all the information =)

[Synapsin]

Thank you everyone for all your input i'm trying to be as humble as possible and assimilate all the information =)

That's a good thing, the questions were good ones and its great you're trying your best to succeed. A lot of people learn the hard way how to do things or when to ask for help after several attempts that result in failure.

[aschenbrenner]

I bought most of the stuff last night to start the new meal plan but i couldn't find Textured vegtable protein, and i'm not sure how to mix up the oatmeal- using almond milk if i mix up a few containers and take them to work will the milk go bad? I'd like to have everything prepared ahead of time- I cooked the Chicken and cleaned the broccoli and thats in the fridge, do i need to weight out the broccoli or is just putting it into a measuring cup ok?

Since i lacked some of this stuff and worked out in the morning instead of night my day went like this so far

50g Gaspari double chocolate protein in water
20 min walk with dogs
2 scoops CreaDyl before i left for gym
3 scoops Clutacene during work out
50g Gaspari double Chocolate in 16oz rice milk 15 min or so after work out
3 egg whites, 8 oz glass 2% milk, 2 Table spoons peanut button on an english muffin 2 hours after work out
I'm waiting on my break right now to go eat again- not sure what the Employee dinning room will have but i'll choose healthy-

Today was chest and back at the gym

I did abs first

then two sets of 10 pull ups
flat bench DB press 80's 2 sets of 10 then i dropped to 60's for 1 set of 15
Bent row with an underhand grip with 95lb bb 2 sets of 10 then with 105lb BB 1 set of 10
Decline bench on smith machine 70lbs on each side 1 set of 10 added 25 did a set of 8 then dropped 15 for another set of 10
seated lat pull with 100 not sure if its lbs or metric, 1 set of 10 then upped it to 115 and did 2 sets of 10
cable pec flys at shoulder height 17.5 i think its metric 1 set of 10 then 22.5 for a set of 10 and 27.5 for 9

I ran out of time and was feeling sick from taking the three shakes so close together my stomach was way too full 16 oz water with my protein, 16 with CreaDyl, and 20 with Glutacen all in less than an hour.

I'm keeping my work outs to right about 45 minutes because a friend told me your body stops producing testosterone after that, Can any one back that or disprove for me, thanks

[aschenbrenner]

I went to break and had about a 6oz steak around a cup of broccoli and a quarter cup of sliced olives, not sure if that was a good idea or not, i was thinking olive oil lol, its been about 45 minutes and i'm starving already! def gonna have to figure out my meal plan for next week, todays my friday at this job so i'll make sure to eat good while delivering pizzas lol

[dpressma]

Abs should be done at the end of a workout man. Weakening your core is possibly one of the worst things you could do before a workout! Regardless, tough workout brother.

textured vegetable protein.. ew :(

still liking the DTS supps?

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I went to break and had about a 6oz steak around a cup of broccoli and a quarter cup of sliced olives, not sure if that was a good idea or not, i was thinking olive oil lol, its been about 45 minutes and i'm starving already! def gonna have to figure out my meal plan for next week, todays my friday at this job so i'll make sure to eat good while delivering pizzas lol

Probably a very lean steak then? Add some more good fat like natty peanut/almond butter to your meals so that they're more satisfying in terms of combating hunger.

[aschenbrenner]

Abs should be done at the end of a workout man. Weakening your core is possibly one of the worst things you could do before a workout! Regardless, tough workout brother.

textured vegetable protein.. ew :(

still liking the DTS supps?

I love the supps! Like i posted before i was taking animal pump and i've tried muscle techs NO product but i really love this Creadyl

Thats another theory of a friend doing the abs first which i've been doing for two weeks now, i use to do them last. His reasoning is that you get the best work out for your abs in the begining, that is also why he was saying to do isolations first-

Thanks! Have you had the TVP is it nasty?

[aschenbrenner]

Probably a very lean steak then? Add some more good fat like natty peanut/almond butter to your meals so that they're more satisfying in terms of combating hunger.

I think i may go eat some peanut butter, thanks for your help =)

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I think i may go eat some peanut butter, thanks for your help =)

Anytime, natty pb ftw!

Don't accidentally the whole jar though, keep it to 2 tbsps ;).

[journey2swole]

I hear your concerns on the nutrition planning here. That was the hardest piece of the puzzle for me in my challenge.

drooks10 suggested I use the nutrition plan he was on, it is the cut diet plan. While both he and I were on cuts for our contest the plan is very solid and you can always increase your caloric intake on the plan to eat healthy, be full and have the intake needed to build muscle while not adding additional body fat.

You can download the full ebook for free at www.cutdiet.com and evaluate it for yourself. Like I say, I have had great success with this plan and it is by far the best and most successful nutrition plan I have used. See how it works for you or take and use what parts you like. It is free and the book is a great read with a lot of valuable information even if you choose to go another route.

[aschenbrenner]

I hear your concerns on the nutrition planning here. That was the hardest piece of the puzzle for me in my challenge.

drooks10 suggested I use the nutrition plan he was on, it is the cut diet plan. While both he and I were on cuts for our contest the plan is very solid and you can always increase your caloric intake on the plan to eat healthy, be full and have the intake needed to build muscle while not adding additional body fat.

You can download the full ebook for free at www.cutdiet.com and evaluate it for yourself. Like I say, I have had great success with this plan and it is by far the best and most successful nutrition plan I have used. See how it works for you or take and use what parts you like. It is free and the book is a great read with a lot of valuable information even if you choose to go another route.

Thanks, I'm gonna take a look through it, cause i tried to eat the oatmeal and almond milk this morning and almost puked! The guy that gave me the meal plan have a good body but i don't think i want to suffer like that to get it lol

[cw955588]

Thanks, I'm gonna take a look through it, cause i tried to eat the oatmeal and almond milk this morning and almost puked! The guy that gave me the meal plan have a good body but i don't think i want to suffer like that to get it lol

Definitely NOT cool! Not every diet works for every person... the cut diet is pretty solid and you won't end up eating something that is way off base for you (like oatmeal and almond milk LOL!)... kdavidsonttm and drooks10 both had amazing transformations and stuck with their diets the whole 10 weeks so definitely worth checking out! :) The diet is definitely the toughest part but it will come together!

[Segansational]

Won't that make me weaker when i get to the back? thats why i try to do the major lifts first one back and chest day, I'm open to trying other things if you don't think that will effect how well my back gets worked?

No, because you're working chest, with tri's secondary, first and then moving to back which would utilize different muscles. Personally, I'd recommend doing a chest/tri, legs/shoulders, back/bi split for a 3 day. Break up legs and shoulders if you do 4 days, but that's just me. I think doing chest and back on the same day is overkill.

[journey2swole]

No, because you're working chest, with tri's secondary, first and then moving to back which would utilize different muscles. Personally, I'd recommend doing a chest/tri, legs/shoulders, back/bi split for a 3 day. Break up legs and shoulders if you do 4 days, but that's just me. I think doing chest and back on the same day is overkill.

I would agree here, I think this is very solid advice on a training rotation so that you can work each individual muscle group to its maximum. Combining back and chest would be difficult. The split provided by Segansational would work great on a 3 day split.


Definitely NOT cool! Not every diet works for every person... the cut diet is pretty solid and you won't end up eating something that is way off base for you (like oatmeal and almond milk LOL!)... kdavidsonttm and drooks10 both had amazing transformations and stuck with their diets the whole 10 weeks so definitely worth checking out! :) The diet is definitely the toughest part but it will come together!

cw cuts herself short here, she also had a phenomenal transformation experience and did great. Her advice is very solid and you will not go wrong with it. If you haven't already you might visit her log and look at what she accomplished. I know other peoples logs help motivate me and keep me on track.


Thanks, I'm gonna take a look through it, cause i tried to eat the oatmeal and almond milk this morning and almost puked! The guy that gave me the meal plan have a good body but i don't think i want to suffer like that to get it lol

As cw mentioned above, not every plan will work for everyone. Each of us has a different body and we all respond differently. Take what you find, experiment with it and isolate what works for you FTW.

No point in eating something that you don't enjoy, there are plenty of very heathy and good tasting options. Here is a link to a recipe thread I found that has many great ideas for good tasting meals or menu items that I was able to match to my specific macro nutrient profile on the cut diet plan.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112503161

This really helped me keep some variety and add some really tasty treats that all fit my profile for the full 10 weeks.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Thanks, I'm gonna take a look through it, cause i tried to eat the oatmeal and almond milk this morning and almost puked! The guy that gave me the meal plan have a good body but i don't think i want to suffer like that to get it lol

You can definitely find a much more sensible approach and see great gains without eating ridiculous things like the diet that guy gave you.

[ChaseMans]

Good stuff here, and yeah diets are always a pain but sometimes you just have to play around with different foods and see what works best for you. There are healthy alternatives to basically every food out there. What I do sometimes is just go around a grocery store/whole foods or costco and just browse around check out what they have and who knows you may find something that's healthy and actually taste good.

[cw955588]

cw cuts herself short here, she also had a phenomenal transformation experience and did great. Her advice is very solid and you will not go wrong with it. If you haven't already you might visit her log and look at what she accomplished. I know other peoples logs help motivate me and keep me on track.



As cw mentioned above, not every plan will work for everyone. Each of us has a different body and we all respond differently. Take what you find, experiment with it and isolate what works for you FTW.

No point in eating something that you don't enjoy, there are plenty of very heathy and good tasting options. Here is a link to a recipe thread I found that has many great ideas for good tasting meals or menu items that I was able to match to my specific macro nutrient profile on the cut diet plan.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112503161

This really helped me keep some variety and add some really tasty treats that all fit my profile for the full 10 weeks.

Thank you I appreciate that! And definitely checking out what the other contestants are up to is a good idea... you'll get tons of advice and motivation... I even made some friends! Double T 2009 Contest Alumni FTW! LOL!!

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you all again for your input-

I was thinking about my training plan and since i've been doing the push pull for about 3 month now i decided to go back to just doing one group per day. Yesterday was chest day and today was back so far-

Chest day was awesome because i had 45 minutes to devote just to chest, but today on back it seemed like it only took about 30 minutes so i think i'll do no abs on chest day and abs on back day, and tomorrow i'll do legs, and then shoulders and abs, and then arms-

Thanks for all the advice about isolations first, and abs last- I did abs last on my chest day and it was was better then last week after doing abs i couldn't do as much as i was capable on flat BB bench but this week doing abs last i was a beast! lol

Chest day

flat BB
135x10
185x10
205x10
135x15

Lower cable fly (I loved this this week!)
17.5x12
17.5x10
17.5x10
I really got a good squeeze in and felt so much blood in my pecs!

Incline DB
45'sx10
50'sx10
55'sx10

1 arm flat DB press
40x10 each arm
50x10 each arm
50x10 each arm

Decline on smith machine
152x10
172x10
172x10

Hanging knee raise
3 sets of 10

weights machine crunch
50x20
65x20
65x21.5 lol Partner 1 uped me with 21 so i half uped him!

standing side crunch? lol not sure what its called lean to side and crunch up-
45x10 each side
45x10 each side
45x10 each side

Chest day was awesome!

Today was back day

Pull ups
2 sets of 10
last set of only 8 full and 2 half way up

standing bent row with under hand grip on BB
95x10
95x10
95x10

Standing bent row with over hand grip DB
30'sx10
25'sx12
30'sx10

Front lat push down with arms strait out (not sure whats its called) on cable
32.5x10
32.5x10
32.5x10

Lat pull
115x10
115x10
115x10

I really want my flying squirl wings! lol Is there more i should be doing? less? something i'm missing, or doing too much of something? Thanks!

Still working on the meal plan, I never found the Textured vegtable protien some i'm just drinking 50g or myofusion with the first meal. I've added stevia to the oatmeal and its good now, I think the meal plan is working though, or the supps lol, its almost been a month now i'll get some pictures on here on wed I look amazing lol, Best shape i've ever been in!

Am i adding in cardio? lol what do you think? I'm still losing weight but i eat 7 times a day, and i realy like the rice milk with my protien post work out! I know every one has their own opinions lol

[aschenbrenner]

Anytime, natty pb ftw!

Don't accidentally the whole jar though, keep it to 2 tbsps ;).

I'm risking sounding like a complete PB nerd but i can't find the brand Natty! I see lots of natural and i'm guessing thats what you mean- Thanks

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Lats depend on genetics and insertion points, but wide grip pull ups and heavy bent over rows are they way to really grow them.

Keep killing it, they will come with time...as the famous saying goes "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint."

[aschenbrenner]

Lats depend on genetics and insertion points, but wide grip pull ups and heavy bent over rows are they way to really grow them.

Keep killing it, they will come with time...as the famous saying goes "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint."

Thanks! I'm doing the wide gip pull ups and wide lat pull, I'll work on more weight on the bent row

[Credz]

Glad your chest workout went well! Mine was today! Loving the NO Beta on chest, feels like my chest was going to explode. I agree with GotLife, pull ups and bent over rows. I really feel the stretch in the bent over rows. NO Beta and CreaDyl still treating you good?

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I'm risking sounding like a complete PB nerd but i can't find the brand Natty! I see lots of natural and i'm guessing thats what you mean- Thanks

lol yeah natty just means Natural


Thanks! I'm doing the wide gip pull ups and wide lat pull, I'll work on more weight on the bent row

Sounds good, I'm sure you'll start seeing growth there in no time.

[aschenbrenner]

Glad your chest workout went well! Mine was today! Loving the NO Beta on chest, feels like my chest was going to explode. I agree with GotLife, pull ups and bent over rows. I really feel the stretch in the bent over rows. NO Beta and CreaDyl still treating you good?

I'm not taking any of the No Beta, but the CreaDyl is awesome, I"m seeing such good results from it-

Keep up the good work, and thanks for the support!

[journey2swole]

I really want my flying squirl wings! lol Is there more i should be doing? less? something i'm missing, or doing too much of something? Thanks!

The Bent Over Barbell Rows really helped me a bunch in my transformation. I hit them really hard the last 5 weeks and was able to really push my volume up each week. I really saw my Lats explode there at the end and wish I had started these back on day 1.

Here is a link to the exercise for reference. Give them a try and see what you think. I bought a set of hooks so that my wrist did not limit my weight. That helped a lot as well.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/bent-over-barbell-row

[Segansational]

I'm not taking any of the No Beta, but the CreaDyl is awesome, I"m seeing such good results from it-

Keep up the good work, and thanks for the support!

I'd pick up some NO-Beta if you can. Creadyl alone should be fine, but the combo should really kick things up a notch.

[aschenbrenner]

I'm so lean now! i can't wait to post some pictures on here! I'll have the internet on wed which will be 4 weeks!

Today was leg day-

I'm working out first thing in the morning and not eating anything before my work outs so my body has to use its reserves to create energy- Right after the work out i'm having 16 oz of rice milk with 50g of protein poweder. Then an hour later i start my first meal.

Legs

Squats
135 warm up x12
225x10
305x10

Romainian dead lift BB
65x12
85x10
105x10

Seated calf raise
90x20
90x20
110x18

Leg extension seated
110x12
150x10
165x10

leg curl seated
150x12
160x10
170x10

1 leg leg press
100x10 each leg
100x10 each leg
100x10 each leg

Still taking two scoops of CreaDyl before and during my work outs but ran out of Glutacene and don't have the money to get any more right away.

[cw955588]

Psyched for the new pictures! Keep up the great work!

[aschenbrenner]

Psyched for the new pictures! Keep up the great work!

Thank you i can't wait, i see the results but i want them to be documented lol

[aschenbrenner]

I'd pick up some NO-Beta if you can. Creadyl alone should be fine, but the combo should really kick things up a notch.

I was thinking about grabbing some of the NO just because of the pumps! thanks for the advice!

[aschenbrenner]

The Bent Over Barbell Rows really helped me a bunch in my transformation. I hit them really hard the last 5 weeks and was able to really push my volume up each week. I really saw my Lats explode there at the end and wish I had started these back on day 1.

Here is a link to the exercise for reference. Give them a try and see what you think. I bought a set of hooks so that my wrist did not limit my weight. That helped a lot as well.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/bent-over-barbell-row

Thank you for the link, This is the one i do, I like to do the over hand grip and the underhand grip- I Guess i'll just keep hitting it hard and hope for results! I need a room with double mirrors so i can see my back lol

[Credz]

Awesome! Looking forward to the new pics! Nice leg workout! Definitely pick up some NO Beta if you can, the pumps are crazy!

[journey2swole]

I'm so lean now! i can't wait to post some pictures on here! I'll have the internet on wed which will be 4 weeks!

Today was leg day-

I'm working out first thing in the morning and not eating anything before my work outs so my body has to use its reserves to create energy- Right after the work out i'm having 16 oz of rice milk with 50g of protein poweder. Then an hour later i start my first meal.

Legs

Squats
135 warm up x12
225x10
305x10

Romainian dead lift BB
65x12
85x10
105x10

Seated calf raise
90x20
90x20
110x18

Leg extension seated
110x12
150x10
165x10

leg curl seated
150x12
160x10
170x10

1 leg leg press
100x10 each leg
100x10 each leg
100x10 each leg

Still taking two scoops of CreaDyl before and during my work outs but ran out of Glutacene and don't have the money to get any more right away.

Looks like a solid workout there bro, I also workout on an empty stomach because it works best for me. It also affords me the opportunity to really get the maximum effects of the NO-Beta and allows the Glutacene to really be absorbed and hit the muscle. I then do a protein shake within 45 minutes. I know the popular belief about the anabolic window is 30 minutes but 35-50 minutes seems to be my true window.

Keep up the great work bro.

[Credz]

I agree 45 minutes is about what I do as well. It works out great for me so far!

[jovinni]

How did I miss this log? Great detail and information. Sub'd!

You've received some really good input from the fellow double-t'ers. Looks like you're getting things worked out with your diet. That has got to be the hardest part about training. I second The Cut Diet as well, if anything it's a great basis and concept to at least consider.

Good luck with the rest of your transformation!

[aschenbrenner]

How did I miss this log? Great detail and information. Sub'd!

You've received some really good input from the fellow double-t'ers. Looks like you're getting things worked out with your diet. That has got to be the hardest part about training. I second The Cut Diet as well, if anything it's a great basis and concept to at least consider.

Good luck with the rest of your transformation!

Thanks for your support!

[aschenbrenner]

Looks like a solid workout there bro, I also workout on an empty stomach because it works best for me. It also affords me the opportunity to really get the maximum effects of the NO-Beta and allows the Glutacene to really be absorbed and hit the muscle. I then do a protein shake within 45 minutes. I know the popular belief about the anabolic window is 30 minutes but 35-50 minutes seems to be my true window.

Keep up the great work bro.

I'm doing the 50g protein in 16oz of rice milk right after i get done lifting, cause i shower at the gym, I'm so hungry by that time that it seems like i can't get it fast enough, You think maybe i should try to wait?

[aschenbrenner]

Today I did shoulders and Abs

Standing Arnold
30'sx12
35'sx10
40'sx10 last two had to use legs to get them in the air

Standing Bent reverse Fly
15'sx12
15'sx10
15'sx10

machine press
70x10 3 sets

DB shurgs
80'sx15
90'sx12
100'sx10

rotator cup on the cables
12.5x10 each arm, 3 sets

Abs-

V ups till exausted 3 sets

Reverse crunch x20 then stability ball crunch till exuasted 3 sets

Good workout, I had a flex off in the mirror again like i do after every work out and i'm reallying liking the results! Tomorrow is arm day! I really like arm day but i think my arms are too big for my chest!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Another great workout bruh, good sh!t.

[Credz]

Nice workout man. I love shoulder day. Plus doing Arnolds are awesome! How was the pump in the shoulders, Still good? I think you should wait till atleast after you shower to have the protein shake. Everyone's body and opinions will vary on this. If having it right away is working out great for you then stick with it. I normally wait till after I do cardio, shower and get to work which is roughly 30-45 mins after my workout.

[journey2swole]

I'm doing the 50g protein in 16oz of rice milk right after i get done lifting, cause i shower at the gym, I'm so hungry by that time that it seems like i can't get it fast enough, You think maybe i should try to wait?

I don't think there are any advantages to waiting if you can stick it in. For me by the time I get my cardio completed and into the shower it is easier to mix and drink at work but that is just me. As long as your not getting any GI upset or anything then I say keep doing what you are doing.

[Synapsin]

Good work out, and feels good to like what you're seeing when you flex eh? :) As for the protein shake, the earlier you drink it the better but it won't be awful to have it after the shower.

[aschenbrenner]

Thanks again every one!

I have a fricken ear infection from hell! i'm hating every thing right now, But i didn't miss my arm work out lol. I'll post numbers when i get a chance! My arms were so swole today! it was awesome!

[cw955588]

Thanks again every one!

I have a fricken ear infection from hell! i'm hating every thing right now, But i didn't miss my arm work out lol. I'll post numbers when i get a chance! My arms were so swole today! it was awesome!

That's awesome (the workout)! But sorry to hear about the ear infection! :(

[aschenbrenner]

That's awesome (the workout)! But sorry to hear about the ear infection! :(

I'm gonna go to the docs tomorrow they will cure me i have faith lol

[cw955588]

I'm gonna go to the docs tomorrow they will cure me i have faith lol

LOL ok good, hopefully it will be quick and painless!!

[Synapsin]

I'm gonna go to the docs tomorrow they will cure me i have faith lol

Ouch, good luck with that, ear infections really hurt :( Looking forward to the arms work out numbers.

[Credz]

Hate ear infections! Good luck at the docs!

[EVO-PT]

Hate ear infections! Good luck at the docs!

Have to agree 1000000% ear infections are soooo crap!!

Hope you get better soon mate!

[journey2swole]

Thanks again every one!

I have a fricken ear infection from hell! i'm hating every thing right now, But i didn't miss my arm work out lol. I'll post numbers when i get a chance! My arms were so swole today! it was awesome!

Sorry to hear about the ear infection, those are painful. Hope all goes well at the doc tomorrow and looking forward to the arm workout post. Give me something to reach for on my arm day this Thursday :D Tomorrow is leg and lower body for me.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Careful lifting with an inner ear infection, could throw off your balance.

[aschenbrenner]

Sorry to hear about the ear infection, those are painful. Hope all goes well at the doc tomorrow and looking forward to the arm workout post. Give me something to reach for on my arm day this Thursday :D Tomorrow is leg and lower body for me.

I love leg day! that is my cheat day from now on cause of all the calories burnt, two days ago i went to jack in the box and got a big cheese burger, chicken sandwhich with bacon, large fry and a chocolate milk shake lololol so fricken good after eating oats almond milk chicken and broccoli! Funny thing is the next day i was down a whole body fat percentage!

I don't remember the numbers for the arms any more, i'll have to post this weeks when the information is fresh. This ear thing has got me all out of whach!

[aschenbrenner]

Careful lifting with an inner ear infection, could throw off your balance.

Thanks for the advice =)

[aschenbrenner]

Today was suppose to be my day off-

Do i really need to take a day off if i'm working 1 muscle group per day?

well i did chest today and it was so awesome!

Flat DB
80'sx12
80'x10
80'sx9

upper cable fly
17.5x12
17.5x10
22.5x10

Decline DB
55'sx15
65'sx10
70'sx10

center cable fly
17.5x10
22.5x10
22.5x10

Incline BB press
135x10
135x10
145x10

Pushups
30
20

Feeling so good after this workout, my chest was full the veins from my chest to shoulders were showing! I had a nice flex off in the mirror and some chicks told me not to stop cause they wanted to watch.... lol creepy haha I guess i liked it! I love the results work gets you!

[aschenbrenner]

Have to agree 1000000% ear infections are soooo crap!!

Hope you get better soon mate!

Thank you! a chick came over last night and made me some sort of salve with olive oil and garlic and dripped it in my ear, it makes it feel better and i've stuffed cotton in it also which straitens out my equalibrium.

[Credz]

Thank you! a chick came over last night and made me some sort of salve with olive oil and garlic and dripped it in my ear, it makes it feel better and i've stuffed cotton in it also which straitens out my equalibrium.

Never heard of putting Olive oil and Garlic in the ear. Thats kinda interesting! As long as it works, I may have to try this out next time I happen to get a ear infection.

[aschenbrenner]

Never heard of putting Olive oil and Garlic in the ear. Thats kinda interesting! As long as it works, I may have to try this out next time I happen to get a ear infection.

she mashed it up and heated it for 10 seconds in the microwave then dripped it into my ear with a que tip- what ever works right lol

[jovinni]

Interesting treatment, holistic medicine fascinates me.

[aschenbrenner]

well i've been eating food out of a refrigerator that doensn't work, for two weeks! I thought something was up when my milk tasted like strawberries lol. I guess thats why i have an are infection and am all stuffy lol, Probably not but now i have something to blame!

Today is back day at the gym metting two of my friend there. I finally found the steel cut oats which boast 7g of protien per 1/4 cup, so i'm mixing 1/2 cup steel cut with 1/2 cup old fashion for my oatmeal during the first three meals. Gives me 20g of protein in just the oat meal Then i'm having a cup of egg whites..... which are spoiled.... so glad i'm not dead lol I'm gonna find that SOB that sold me it off craiglist and rip his arms off! Sorry thats the CreaDyl talking lol.

[Simpy]

Oh, law. You have to fix that fridge, dude. REally.

[cw955588]

Thank you! a chick came over last night and made me some sort of salve with olive oil and garlic and dripped it in my ear, it makes it feel better and i've stuffed cotton in it also which straitens out my equalibrium.

LMAO!!! Is this one of the chicks that was undressing you with their eyes while you were flexing?
And LOL @ your fridge even though spoiled food is no laughing matter!!! After you go rip the guys arms off, don't forget to beat him with them.
But really, great chest workout, and how is the earache today???

[aschenbrenner]

LMAO!!! Is this one of the chicks that was undressing you with their eyes while you were flexing?
And LOL @ your fridge even though spoiled food is no laughing matter!!! After you go rip the guys arms off, don't forget to beat him with them.
But really, great chest workout, and how is the earache today???

No this chick was way more cute and more subtl about undressing me with her eyes lol

My ear is doing alot better, doesn't hurt as bad to turn my head but i'm all congested now! I usually don't get sick so i'm blaming it on the fridge and that guy who will shortly have no arms lol

[Zangeif Lagasse]

well i've been eating food out of a refrigerator that doensn't work, for two weeks! I thought something was up when my milk tasted like strawberries lol. I guess thats why i have an are infection and am all stuffy lol, Probably not but now i have something to blame!

Today is back day at the gym metting two of my friend there. I finally found the steel cut oats which boast 7g of protien per 1/4 cup, so i'm mixing 1/2 cup steel cut with 1/2 cup old fashion for my oatmeal during the first three meals. Gives me 20g of protein in just the oat meal Then i'm having a cup of egg whites..... which are spoiled.... so glad i'm not dead lol I'm gonna find that SOB that sold me it off craiglist and rip his arms off! Sorry thats the CreaDyl talking lol.

definitely grounds for limb removal and being beaten with said limbs.

plus it's a pretty good workout as you'd be surprised how long it takes to beat someone to death with their own lifeless limbs...(waitwut?) lol.

good **** on the steel cut oats too, that's how all the big boys roll.

[cw955588]

No this chick was way more cute and more subtl about undressing me with her eyes lol

My ear is doing alot better, doesn't hurt as bad to turn my head but i'm all congested now! I usually don't get sick so i'm blaming it on the fridge and that guy who will shortly have no arms lol

LOL yeah subtlety is the key!
Maybe it is the oil/garlic love potion she shot down your ear canal that is now trying to find it's way out LMAO!!!


definitely grounds for limb removal and being beaten with said limbs.

plus it's a pretty good workout as you'd be surprised how long it takes to beat someone to death with their own lifeless limbs...(waitwut?) lol.

Pics or it didn't happen! :D

[Credz]

so glad i'm not dead lol I'm gonna find that SOB that sold me it off craiglist and rip his arms off! Sorry thats the CreaDyl talking lol.

Whoa! CreaDyl-Rage!!!

[aschenbrenner]

definitely grounds for limb removal and being beaten with said limbs.

plus it's a pretty good workout as you'd be surprised how long it takes to beat someone to death with their own lifeless limbs...(waitwut?) lol.

good **** on the steel cut oats too, that's how all the big boys roll.

Thanks I lol on the beating work out!

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you guys for the laughs!

Today was back and Ab day-

Diet is a little off track with the fridge situation, but i'll figure some thing out here really quick, old one is in garage and still works i'll probably plug it in, in there temp so i have some where to store food lol

Dead lift- I have horrible form because i have no flexibility in my hips and groin, In order to keep some symblance of form i have to use low weight.....

135x12
205x7
135x10 Droped back down because i felt sloppy
185x6 Tried to go up again still sloppy

Pull ups
3 sets of 10

Bent DB row over hand grip
40'sx10 3 sets

Lat pull
115x12
120x12
130x10

Seated machine row with lower grip so elbows are close to body
110x12
125x12
130x10

Tried twists on Stability ball with 20lb weight but i didn't feet it hitting abs

100 Clap crunches on stability ball, arms out in down position and hand together at top lol don't know what to call them. I just crank them out as fast as possible

Oblique twists on machine
130x10 each side
150x10 each side
150x10 each side
superset with machine crunch
110x20
110x20
110x20

Knee raises on chair to hit lower abs
3 sets of ten

I guess we weren't tired enough so we did reverse crunches for lower back
0x20
25x15
0x10 really slow to get a good curl in my back

We try to keep this all under 45 minutes to keep up the intensity

Tomorrow is legs ready for my butt to hurt again from those damn one legged leg press lol

[Credz]

Good workout man! My friend is kinda the same way with Deadlifting. So, he does not do it anymore cause he can never keep form. How were the supps for this workout? Still pushing out those results?

[aschenbrenner]

Good workout man! My friend is kinda the same way with Deadlifting. So, he does not do it anymore cause he can never keep form. How were the supps for this workout? Still pushing out those results?

Year there still working great, I always have another set left in me! I'm a little jealous of my partner cause he started taking Jacked3d and is getting insane pumps, so i think when i order the CreaDyl again in a week cause i'm almost out of my second jug, I'm gonna get some of the NO-beta-

[journey2swole]

Year there still working great, I always have another set left in me! I'm a little jealous of my partner cause he started taking Jacked3d and is getting insane pumps, so i think when i order the CreaDyl again in a week cause i'm almost out of my second jug, I'm gonna get some of the NO-beta-

I think your experience with stacking NO Beta with your CreaDyl is going to be awesome. From the pump you will get with the stack to the increase you will see in your lifting volume. Your friend will be asking you for samples. That's what happened to me with my first bottle. I was giving several friends doses too. It is great stuff.

[Credz]

I agree! You will love the stack! It works great together.

[Synapsin]

Haha don't sweat the diet until the fridge situation is fixed. Good work out, and sorry to hear that on the deadlifts. What you could do is try a different variation of the standard deadlift, look up romanian deadlifts or sumos and see if you like either. I think you'll find the NO-Beta to be better for pumps than your friend's jack3d.

[aschenbrenner]

I think your experience with stacking NO Beta with your CreaDyl is going to be awesome. From the pump you will get with the stack to the increase you will see in your lifting volume. Your friend will be asking you for samples. That's what happened to me with my first bottle. I was giving several friends doses too. It is great stuff.

You make it sound like heroine, I'll let them get a free sample and then there hooked and i'll bleed them dry lol

[aschenbrenner]

Haha don't sweat the diet until the fridge situation is fixed. Good work out, and sorry to hear that on the deadlifts. What you could do is try a different variation of the standard deadlift, look up romanian deadlifts or sumos and see if you like either. I think you'll find the NO-Beta to be better for pumps than your friend's jack3d.

Thanks man-

I do the romanians on leg day, because it feels like they just target my hamstrings-

I'll look up the somo and see what they suggest-

[Segansational]

Form over weight. Glad to see you adhered to that with the deads. If you don't do it right you're definitely setting up for injury.

[aschenbrenner]

Form over weight. Glad to see you adhered to that with the deads. If you don't do it right you're definitely setting up for injury.

Thank- I can do high reps with the lower weight but if i raise it at all i don't have the definite lock to my lower back and i'm scared of injury!

[Synapsin]

Thanks man-

I do the romanians on leg day, because it feels like they just target my hamstrings-

I'll look up the somo and see what they suggest-

Np, let me know if you have any questions.

[Greek_Elite]

To keep form for deads, alot of it comes from your front core (abs) I notice. When you are able to keep your abs tight, it keeps your back straight. Stick with lower weight until you can strengthen your core and improve your form. Besides, deads aren't always about raw power, doing them properly has more benefits than you see on the surface that improving posture and releasing hormones.

Keep it up man

[aschenbrenner]

To keep form for deads, alot of it comes from your front core (abs) I notice. When you are able to keep your abs tight, it keeps your back straight. Stick with lower weight until you can strengthen your core and improve your form. Besides, deads aren't always about raw power, doing them properly has more benefits than you see on the surface that improving posture and releasing hormones.

Keep it up man

I like that advice! Thats the reason i want to do them is to release the hormones and if all i have to do is lift and not worry about going heavy i'm happy!

[journey2swole]

You make it sound like heroine, I'll let them get a free sample and then there hooked and i'll bleed them dry lol

LOL :D I think these are the greatest supps on the market today. So, I want to share them with my friends BUT there is a point that is like ok bro, now time to buy some of your own. I stopped two of my friends supply on Friday and they ordered their own LOL. Wish I got a commission.


I like that advice! Thats the reason i want to do them is to release the hormones and if all i have to do is lift and not worry about going heavy i'm happy!

I am an avocate of going heavy as possible to failure, but not at the sake of good form and risk of injury. Stay with your form and go to your max with the most weight you can safely lift while maintaining your form.

[aschenbrenner]

I've had a good couple of good days at the gym-

My diet is so bad because of the fridge situation, I had a bunch of tatter totts in the employee dinning room yesterday at two different meals, they were fricken good though- and then i had mcdonalds last night- Weird thing is that my body fat said 9.2 percent today even after that horrible eating, I think i'm just gonna eat what i want for the next week till i get a new fridge or get mine fixed- I really feel like i look about 15% body fat but the machine said other wise.

I've got to order soem more Creadyl on monday and i'm gonna get the No-beta as well. Should i consider the Keto cuts if i wanna get down to 8% body fat? That is equivelent to some thing like hydroxy cut correct?

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I've had a good couple of good days at the gym-

My diet is so bad because of the fridge situation, I had a bunch of tatter totts in the employee dinning room yesterday at two different meals, they were fricken good though- and then i had mcdonalds last night- Weird thing is that my body fat said 9.2 percent today even after that horrible eating, I think i'm just gonna eat what i want for the next week till i get a new fridge or get mine fixed- I really feel like i look about 15% body fat but the machine said other wise.

I've got to order soem more Creadyl on monday and i'm gonna get the No-beta as well. Should i consider the Keto cuts if i wanna get down to 8% body fat? That is equivelent to some thing like hydroxy cut correct?

Keto cuts is a much more effective product than hydroxycuts and it'll definitely help you hit that 8% goal. Glad that you're not letting the fridge situation keep you down, at the end of the day if you keep pummeling in the gym and stay reasonably smart about what you eat, it'll all pan out in the end.

[aschenbrenner]

Keto cuts is a much more effective product than hydroxycuts and it'll definitely help you hit that 8% goal. Glad that you're not letting the fridge situation keep you down, at the end of the day if you keep pummeling in the gym and stay reasonably smart about what you eat, it'll all pan out in the end.

Thanks for the motivation!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Anytime bruh, I'm always happy to see other people take strides towards transforming their bodies/lives as I have done with mine.

[Synapsin]

Today was suppose to be my day off-

Do i really need to take a day off if i'm working 1 muscle group per day?

well i did chest today and it was so awesome!

Flat DB
80'sx12
80'x10
80'sx9

upper cable fly
17.5x12
17.5x10
22.5x10

Decline DB
55'sx15
65'sx10
70'sx10

center cable fly
17.5x10
22.5x10
22.5x10

Incline BB press
135x10
135x10
145x10

Pushups
30
20

Feeling so good after this workout, my chest was full the veins from my chest to shoulders were showing! I had a nice flex off in the mirror and some chicks told me not to stop cause they wanted to watch.... lol creepy haha I guess i liked it! I love the results work gets you!

I'd try to have a day off just to relieve your CNS but up to you. Whats your split look like? And glad to see you're getting great results, good work out overall.

[aschenbrenner]

I'd try to have a day off just to relieve your CNS but up to you. Whats your split look like? And glad to see you're getting great results, good work out overall.

What is CNS? I'm working a different muscle group each day-

Chest-
Back and abs-
Legs-
Shoulders and abs-
Arms-

Repeat-

[EVO-PT]

What is CNS? I'm working a different muscle group each day-

Chest-
Back and abs-
Legs-
Shoulders and abs-
Arms-

Repeat-

Central Nervous System - CNS

[aschenbrenner]

Central Nervous System - CNS

Thats what i thought it was, but can never be too sure with acronyms-

[aschenbrenner]

I just put up my most recent pictures, there in progress section. They didn't come out how i wanted them too, but i needed to add some pics-

[Credz]

Still looking good man! Progress is very good so far!!!

[journey2swole]

I just put up my most recent pictures, there in progress section. They didn't come out how i wanted them too, but i needed to add some pics-

Pics and workouts are looking stellar bro, keep up the great work.

I have to agree, you will really love the KetoCuts, my wife got some in the challenge and I got to try some, but I just ordered some off bb.com and will get them on Wednesday. I am excited to see the full effect I get from them on my plan now.

[Zangeif Lagasse]

I just put up my most recent pictures, there in progress section. They didn't come out how i wanted them too, but i needed to add some pics-

solid progress bruh.

[cw955588]

I've had a good couple of good days at the gym-

My diet is so bad because of the fridge situation, I had a bunch of tatter totts in the employee dinning room yesterday at two different meals, they were fricken good though- and then i had mcdonalds last night- Weird thing is that my body fat said 9.2 percent today even after that horrible eating, I think i'm just gonna eat what i want for the next week till i get a new fridge or get mine fixed- I really feel like i look about 15% body fat but the machine said other wise.

I've got to order soem more Creadyl on monday and i'm gonna get the No-beta as well. Should i consider the Keto cuts if i wanna get down to 8% body fat? That is equivelent to some thing like hydroxy cut correct?

I highly recommend KetoCuts so definitely a good choice! I've used "other fat burners" before (which will remain nameless) and once I tried KetoCuts I never went back! The fridge situation is definitely frustrating but I wouldn't recommend "eating whatever you want" until it's resolved! By eating some unclean foods for 2 meals you shocked your body and probably got your metabolism burning again but if you keep eating that way it is likely to not go in your favor!... I am not just guessing on this I've done it! One cheat meal recharged me and got my metabolism firing again so I thought 3 cheat days would do the same... let's just say the situation was not cute!!!

[aschenbrenner]

I highly recommend KetoCuts so definitely a good choice! I've used "other fat burners" before (which will remain nameless) and once I tried KetoCuts I never went back! The fridge situation is definitely frustrating but I wouldn't recommend "eating whatever you want" until it's resolved! By eating some unclean foods for 2 meals you shocked your body and probably got your metabolism burning again but if you keep eating that way it is likely to not go in your favor!... I am not just guessing on this I've done it! One cheat meal recharged me and got my metabolism firing again so I thought 3 cheat days would do the same... let's just say the situation was not cute!!!

Its already horrible! its been about two or three days of eating that damn casino food and i feel bloated and over weight! I guess it doesn't help that i'm really fricken hard on my self. Its been helping to look at my original progress pictures and see how far i have really come. Hopefully tomorrow i can get back on track and eating really clean again.

[aschenbrenner]

Thanks every one for your support! I like what i'm seeing as well but not nearly as far as i wanna be! Look out 17 Inch Bi's! Only 2 inchest to go lol

[cw955588]

Its already horrible! its been about two or three days of eating that damn casino food and i feel bloated and over weight! I guess it doesn't help that i'm really fricken hard on my self. Its been helping to look at my original progress pictures and see how far i have really come. Hopefully tomorrow i can get back on track and eating really clean again.

Keep your head up it happens to the best of us! :) If you weren't hard on yourself then you wouldn't be making progress at all! And your pics are looking great btw! Keep up the good work and if the guy from Craig's list who sold you the faulty fridge needs a CreaDyl induced limb-ripping well then so be it!!!

[Credz]

Agreed! Gotta be hard on yourself to get the results you wanna see and helps you stay on track.

[aschenbrenner]

This transformation is awesome! Thank you all for hanging around for the ride lol

I'm gonna get my new supps tonight, Gonna get Zma for at night
Keto cuts, Gonnna get some No-beta, restock on Glutecene and CreaDyl. I may look at what else there is to offer i just got my tax return might as well get something that keeps giving.... a sweet body lolol....

[dpressma]

This transformation is awesome! Thank you all for hanging around for the ride lol

I'm gonna get my new supps tonight, Gonna get Zma for at night
Keto cuts, Gonnna get some No-beta, restock on Glutecene and CreaDyl. I may look at what else there is to offer i just got my tax return might as well get something that keeps giving.... a sweet body lolol....

Which flavors of the CreaDyl and glutacene are you gonna get this time? NO Beta has been recieving great reviews, you'll love it!

Tax returns :cool:

[cw955588]

This transformation is awesome! Thank you all for hanging around for the ride lol

I'm gonna get my new supps tonight, Gonna get Zma for at night
Keto cuts, Gonnna get some No-beta, restock on Glutecene and CreaDyl. I may look at what else there is to offer i just got my tax return might as well get something that keeps giving.... a sweet body lolol....

I haven't used it personally, but for ZMA check out Testx6 (by Double T) Everyone that has kept up logs involving it have had amazing things to say about it (might as well keep it in the Double T family LOL!) For example, there is a guy who has a 3 year old and a new born baby at home (I don't even think she's a month yet) and he works out at like 5am and has been pulling pr's consistently. He has said that even sometimes with only 4 hours of sleep the sleep is such high quality that it doesn't even matter! Worth checking out!! And then you can thank the IRS for your sweet body and awesome sleep LMAO!!!

[journey2swole]

This transformation is awesome! Thank you all for hanging around for the ride lol

I'm gonna get my new supps tonight, Gonna get Zma for at night
Keto cuts, Gonnna get some No-beta, restock on Glutecene and CreaDyl. I may look at what else there is to offer i just got my tax return might as well get something that keeps giving.... a sweet body lolol....

TestX6 - Best ZMA product you will find, great for builidnig strength and a great nights sleep.

NO Beta - You will love this product, talk about intensity and wanting to tear into the iron and leave no witnesses, this stuff is the BEST of its class and type I have used and I have used all of them at some point.

Glutacene & CreaDyl - You already know the benefits of both these products, and Glutacene just keeps getting better and bette with continued use.

[aschenbrenner]

TestX6 - Best ZMA product you will find, great for builidnig strength and a great nights sleep.

NO Beta - You will love this product, talk about intensity and wanting to tear into the iron and leave no witnesses, this stuff is the BEST of its class and type I have used and I have used all of them at some point.

Glutacene & CreaDyl - You already know the benefits of both these products, and Glutacene just keeps getting better and bette with continued use.

Your awesome man! thanks for your help! I'm making a big Double T purchase tonight lol-

[aschenbrenner]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

[Credz]

Nice! It'll be like Christmas morning when you get it! haha

[dpressma]

Oh man, you went for the entire Double-T stack :eek: Can not wait to see how EVERYTHING works for you all together.

[jovinni]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

Nice!!

[Simpy]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

You're gonna be so happy you rushed that order!

[journey2swole]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

Welcome to the Double-T addicts bro. You now have the ultimate stack and you will be amazed at what you see in the gym. I absolutely love this stack and could not imagine hitting the gym without each of these. Just wait until products like NitroMine and Betacene become market ready.

I was fortunate to try the NitroMine and log it, I have not been lucky enough to thry up the Betacene yet but I keep my fingers crossed LOL :D

[cw955588]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

I'm glad you decided the try the Testx6 I'm psyched to see how you like it!!! You won't be disappointed with the orange Creadyl! Time to really put this stack to work!!!

[Zangeif Lagasse]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

that's one epic stack going to be shredded, pumped, sleeping deep, increasing your test levels, and getting that much closer to where you want to be with your transformation at the end of the day.

[aschenbrenner]

I can't wait for it to get here! I hope its all its cracked up to be!

[Credz]

^ Oh it will be and more!!! When is it scheduled to be there?

[aschenbrenner]

^ Oh it will be and more!!! When is it scheduled to be there?

I think it should be here on friday, cant wait!

[Credz]

That's great! Just a few days away from Double-T goodness!

[journey2swole]

I think it should be here on friday, cant wait!

That really gives you something to look forward to at the end of a long week. I love coming home and seeing a box from bodybuilding.com sitting on my porch. It makes my day. I re-ordered on Sunday and according to the FedEx tracking notice it should be here when I get home tonight. :):):) I wish I didn't have to wait till 3:00 AM to get back here to open it up :(

Enjoy your jackpot!

[Segansational]

Jesus! I just spent 224 dollars on suppliments! who does that lol-

Got more CreaDyl trying orange
Got more Glutacene sticking with wild berry
Got some Keto Cuts
Got some No-Beta
Got some Test-6


added 11 dollars for rush delivery lol

That's frickin' awesome. You'll be tearing it up in the gym, but just remember, as good as these supplements are, it's secondary to proper nutrition. So make sure you stock up on good foods as well and you'll be set!

[aschenbrenner]

That's frickin' awesome. You'll be tearing it up in the gym, but just remember, as good as these supplements are, it's secondary to proper nutrition. So make sure you stock up on good foods as well and you'll be set!

I don't know if i'm stocked up on good food =/ but i'm eating some food that is showing results.... Nothing like a bacon ultimate cheese burger from jack in the crack!

[Credz]

Mmmm bacon cheeseburgers!! One of my fav foods haha. Ahhh now I'm tempted to get one... Look what you did!!! But on the bright side one more day till Double-T goodness!!!!

[Simpy]

Now I'm sad. I want a bacon cheeseburger. :(

[aschenbrenner]

sorry! thats my favorite cheat food =)

I'm gonna devour a whole large pizza from work on my next cheat day! I'm gonna be like a starving dog leaned over it in the corner table lol

[journey2swole]

All this talk about food has actually got me hungry, I am 4 days into a new nutrition plan that has me eating 300g of carbs a day and 3000+ calories, I didn't think I could be hungry LOL.

[aschenbrenner]

All this talk about food has actually got me hungry, I am 4 days into a new nutrition plan that has me eating 300g of carbs a day and 3000+ calories, I didn't think I could be hungry LOL.

Wow, I don't even know if i'm getting that much carbs. I need to sit down and figure out exactly what i'm taking in.

can any one recommend a good starting point to learn about Nutrition? something not too technical lol

[cw955588]

Wow, I don't even know if i'm getting that much carbs. I need to sit down and figure out exactly what i'm taking in.

can any one recommend a good starting point to learn about Nutrition? something not too technical lol

The first thing I would recommend doing is go to www.fitday.com and log everything you eat and drink for a day. It will break down all your macronutrients for you and then everyone would have a better picture of what areas your diet are problematic... then we could all probably be more helpful! :)

[journey2swole]

As CW says, fitday is a good free resource to learn your macros and see what you are eating each day. I use it regularly.

You can also go to www.scivation.com and look under the "books" tab to find some really great nutritional plans along with all of the data backing up why the plan is sound and will achieve your desired results. I did Mark's Cut Diet for the contest and am now doing The Lean Mass Diet from the site. Great resource and all FREE - makes it even better :)

[Credz]

Yeah Scivation books are a really good place to look. I had good results with there CHA Diet the other year. Definitely check that out.

[Segansational]

Wow, I don't even know if i'm getting that much carbs. I need to sit down and figure out exactly what i'm taking in.

can any one recommend a good starting point to learn about Nutrition? something not too technical lol

Check out the nutrition forum section, there's a good thread by Alan Aragon all about pre, during and post-WO nutrition. It's a huge thread and a lot to read, but you'll gain a lot just by browsing some of it.

[aschenbrenner]

Thank you guys, I'm gonna check out those books online, and i'm also going to go to the book store tomorrow when i file my divorce papers......

I've been doing alot of thinking and i love being in shape and watching others get into shape. I want to do something in the fitness feild for work i'm tired of doing jobs i hate lol.

[aschenbrenner]

As CW says, fitday is a good free resource to learn your macros and see what you are eating each day. I use it regularly.

You can also go to www.scivation.com and look under the "books" tab to find some really great nutritional plans along with all of the data backing up why the plan is sound and will achieve your desired results. I did Mark's Cut Diet for the contest and am now doing The Lean Mass Diet from the site. Great resource and all FREE - makes it even better :)

Scivation is a great resourse so far! Thanks alot, I'm only about 20 pages into the cut diet book but i'm sold lol.

[Credz]

^ Nice! You'll find a lot of good information in those books. I really like them and try to base my diets off them.

[jovinni]

Glad you're liking the Scivation books, I used the Cut Diet for part of my prep. It definitely helped having those resources available, and free to boot!

[aschenbrenner]

Today is christmas! or my birthday or just some super special day when i get a package in the mail containing muscle building products!

[aschenbrenner]

Just a quick questions-

I've been reading alot about BCAA's, Do i need to suppliment that in during my work outs or is taking the Glutacene during my work out covering that? is see its got alot of good aminos in it along with the Glutamine. any thoughts? especially if i'm going to start the cut diet-

[journey2swole]

Scivation is a great resourse so far! Thanks alot, I'm only about 20 pages into the cut diet book but i'm sold lol.

Glad you like them, I think they are the absolute best for achieving solid results without using some type of fad diet plan that will produce unwanted or undesireable results. The more you go through it the better you will like it.


Glad you're liking the Scivation books, I used the Cut Diet for part of my prep. It definitely helped having those resources available, and free to boot!

Better listen to Jovinni, or she will skate over to your house and and you your a** LOL :)

[journey2swole]

Just a quick questions-

I've been reading alot about BCAA's, Do i need to suppliment that in during my work outs or is taking the Glutacene during my work out covering that? is see its got alot of good aminos in it along with the Glutamine. any thoughts? especially if i'm going to start the cut diet-

Glutacene has got you covered bro!

[aschenbrenner]

Glutacene has got you covered bro!

Thats what i thought! I'm loving the products more and more lol

[Credz]

Thats what i thought! I'm loving the products more and more lol

Thats what we like to hear! When you hitting the gym next?

[aschenbrenner]

Thats what we like to hear! When you hitting the gym next?

I havn't played basektball in like a month, so i'm gonna go run for two hours tonight, then hitting an AA meeting then going to hit the gym at 9, tonight is chest day, Which is where i need alot of work! can't wait to Hit it after taking the No-beta, I'm thinking about taking some before basketball as well just for the extra energy?

[aschenbrenner]

I decided not to take any No-Beta before playing basektball because i didn't get any advice in time, I didn't really think it was something i should take before running any way-

Played basketball for 1.5 hours, Was on the winners court so i didn't have a break! gotta love it =) My Glutes cramp up every time i play basketball the day after leg day! it hurts so fricken bad lol, i'm out there looking like an old man stretching during the game haha

I took a serving (2 tabs) of Keto cuts a couple hours before i went to play basketball, I'm not sure that i felt much of a difference? I did feel a little bit of energy right after taking them so i took my pup on a walk.

after basketball I decided to go to Mickey D's...... I'm going to start the cut diets and it said in the reading that there is absololutely no cheating so i cheated before i started lol

I took two scoops of my new Orange cream CreaDyl, I like this flavor better then the lemon lime, Lemon lime was still good, but the Orange Cream is my favorite. I took the CreaDyl an hour and 15 minutes before my work out. I sipped on it, and was done about a half hour before. Could feel tingles about 20 minutes after i started sipping.

I took 3 NO-Beta 15 minutes before Training, I've taken other NO products and i didn't have the same crazy urge this time to punch things and throw weights around? lol What i can say about it is that during my work out I was so swollen there was so much blood pumping into my chest during my session. I warmed up with 100lbs and tried to push up 265 I almost had it and it slowly started to go back down..... LOL so i put on 245 and almost got two, I'm happy with that because that is a new personal best for Flat bench.

During the work out i sipped on my new Glutacene, Orange is sooooo delicious 3 scoops in 20oz of water is a good mixture.

With the combination of the sups that i ingested before and during the work out i had an awesome amount of energy, i always felt like i could do more in my mind but i was exuasted in the muscle from the amount of weight i was putting up. Glad i had my spotter who helped me finish out every set!

Work out-

Flat BB bench
100x10
265- Nearly got it
245x1.5 lol
285x10
295x8 x2 with spotter help
295x8 x2 with spotter help

Incline DB press
50'sx10
60'sx10
60'sx7 spotter tried to help but i had nothing left

Lower cable fly
22.5x10
22.5x10
22.5x10 I love this exercise, I can really feel the flex

Incline DB fly
20'sx10
25'sx8 rest for 10 seconds so i could get last to total 10
25'sx10 didn't go as deep made sure to get good flex in.

Decline Smith machine
150x10
170x7 last three with spotter total 10
170x6 2 more with spotter. Sooooo dead. But i feel like doing more lol My mind says one thing but my body was saying nooooo lol

15 minutes on stair master on lvl 10

Ate about 6oz of chicken breast with mrs dash for seasoning about 45 min post work out and here i sit.

Going to take Test X6 in about an hour and get to sleep gotta get up tomorrow and hit the weights before work!

[aschenbrenner]

Trying to figure out this cut diet-
I'm at 11.4-12% body fat
I weight 196

196/1.2=163.4
Guessing i'm an Ectomorph-
163.4x37-40 = 6000-6500
This seems way too much??? especially since the charts only go up to 4000 lol

I've check and rechecked? Can any one shed some light on this thanks

[Credz]

Sorry for not getting back to you. I would've went with the CreaDyl before the basket ball game. If you were running a lot on the court those calves might get overly pumped and slow your game down. Plus CreaDyl has the caffiene in which would give you that energy you were looking for. Solid workout man! Putting up some nice weight! Those calories do seem high. What diet are you looking at?

[jovinni]

Better listen to Jovinni, or she will skate over to your house and and you your a** LOL :)

Aw KD, I keep my violence on the track. A time and place and all that nonsense ;)


Trying to figure out this cut diet-
I'm at 11.4-12% body fat
I weight 196

196/1.2=163.4
Guessing i'm an Ectomorph-
163.4x37-40 = 6000-6500
This seems way too much??? especially since the charts only go up to 4000 lol

I've check and rechecked? Can any one shed some light on this thanks


You just made a simple error, to convert pounds to kilograms you need to divide by 2.2. You show you're using 1.2

So this puts you at:

196/2.2=89.1
89.1x37-40=3296.7-3564

[drooks10]

Aw KD, I keep my violence on the track. A time and place and all that nonsense ;)




You just made a simple error, to convert pounds to kilograms you need to divide by 2.2. You show you're using 1.2

So this puts you at:

196/2.2=89.1
89.1x37-40=3296.7-3564

Dang Jovinni! You beat me to the calculating error!

The cutdiet is the real deal. Give it a shot and you will get some great results!

[aschenbrenner]

Aw KD, I keep my violence on the track. A time and place and all that nonsense ;)




You just made a simple error, to convert pounds to kilograms you need to divide by 2.2. You show you're using 1.2

So this puts you at:

196/2.2=89.1
89.1x37-40=3296.7-3564

Thank you! I thought they used 2.2 because his body fat was 22% so i used 1.2...... 3300 is was do able lol

[journey2swole]

Aw KD, I keep my violence on the track. A time and place and all that nonsense

I know I know, but I am sure you can be VERY intimidating on the rink LOL :)
And, you give out great advice like the calculations!

So, for an 8 person hot tub with water temperature of 98 degrees Fahrenheit what would the correct calculation of Glutacene be to maintain maximum recovery and full enjoyment? We will need to know this :D

[Zangeif Lagasse]

You just made a simple error, to convert pounds to kilograms you need to divide by 2.2. You show you're using 1.2

So this puts you at:

196/2.2=89.1
89.1x37-40=3296.7-3564

oh snap, she's smart too.
double threat lol.

[jovinni]

Thank you! I thought they used 2.2 because his body fat was 22% so i used 1.2...... 3300 is was do able lol

;)


I know I know, but I am sure you can be VERY intimidating on the rink LOL :)
And, you give out great advice like the calculations!

So, for an 8 person hot tub with water temperature of 98 degrees Fahrenheit what would the correct calculation of Glutacene be to maintain maximum recovery and full enjoyment? We will need to know this :D

Well let's see, you're looking at about 400 gallons of water, so I'm thinking 40 tubs of glutacene, make that water 102 degrees and we're in business :)



oh snap, she's smart too.
double threat lol.

And don't you forget it ;)

LOL

[aschenbrenner]

I need to practice waking up earlier- Woke up with 15 mintues to get gym clothes on get supps ready and take pre work out and get out the door..... I hate the stupid sleep button who ever inveted that is horrible lol

I didn't sleep well last night- I took my first serving of Test X6 and i thought that would help me sleep? I was getting hot and sweaty through out the night? I layed down for bed at 1230 and was up every two hours or there about, I also took my first serving of NO-Beta at 830 last night which also could have been a factor?

well Right when i woke up I took 2 scoops Orange cream CreaDyl in 16oz water and three NO-Beta pills, I finished off the CreaDyl in the gym before my work out and refilled shaker with 20 oz water and 3 scoops of Orange Glutacene. Felt really good pump through out the work out, was a little hungry during the last five minutes of my LI cardio-

45 min weight lifting and 10 min LI cardio

Arms-

Dips
15 with body weight
10 with body weight
10 with body weight

Incline DB curl Lifting each arm at same time
25'sx10
30'sx10
35'sx7 till failure!

Pull down with rope
37.5x10
42.5x10
52.5x10

Over head cable tri extensions

52.5x10
57.5x10
62.5x10 Really slow on last set for form

Preacher curl seated
65x10
85x10
85x6 till failure

Bent tri kick back 1 arm
20'sx10 each arm
25'sx10 each arm
25'sx10 each arm

Isolation curl
25'sx10 each arm
30'sx10 each arm
35'sx10 each arm left arm struggled last three

Decline crunch
30
20
20

laying reverse Crunch one leg up? lol not sure what to call it
20 each leg

reverse crunch
20

Reverse crunch with legs in the air
20

stability ball and half ball thing reverse crunch
10
10
10

7 min cardio on eliptical set on 5 kept heart rate at 130-135

Took my Keto-Cuts after work out, Not sure of best time to take these since i only have 15 minutes prior to work out on these days

[Credz]

Nice workout. Sounds like the pump had to be going pretty great!

[aschenbrenner]

Legs today, Still not sleeping well? I took the NO-beta yesterday morning upon waking so i'm not sure if its that, Could the Test X6 be causeing my sleep iregularity?

woke up Brushed teeth lol then i go strait to the CreaDyl 2.5 scoops this morning for some reason- and i took 5 No-Beta with it, takes 15 minutes to get to the gym and i'm finished with CreaDyl, I then fill up 20 oz water and three scoops Glutacene- I felt like little bugs were crawling all over me this morning after i got to the gym, my skin was blotchy red. I didn't feel the pump i was expecting. I think 5 is too many No-Beta for my third day- had an awesome leg work out and i had sustained energy through out-

Squat- Tried to go as deep as i could, Just a little above 90 still Very unflexible- Even with no weight thats as low as i can go, The weight helps me get deeper-

135x10
185x10
235x10

135x6 front squat- Never tried it just getting a feel

Romainians-
95x10
105x10
115x10

seated calf
90x20
110x15
140x13

Leg extension/curl super set

150x10/150x10
30 sec rest
170x10/170x10
30sec rest
210x10/190x10

Standing calf raise, Toe strait, in, and out
25'sx20 each direction, total 60
30'sx20 same
35'sx15 same

1 legged press
208x10 each leg
258x10 each leg
258x10 each leg

No cardio today couldn't walk-

Drank 50g myofusion after shower

Just took Keto-Cuts about a half hour after last meal

Leg days- I love em but i hate them, i can't walk and i walk for 10 hours at work lol

[Segansational]

Do you have shaker cups and pill cases for your supps? I prepare all of my things the night before so I'm ready to go in the morning. As for the tingling sensation, sounds just like you were reacting to too high of an NO beta dose. Just scale it back by one pill and you'll be fine. Also, taking it with food would help diminish the tingles.

[journey2swole]

The feeling you were experiencing was from the Beta Alanine in both the CreaDyl and NO Beta, it is an effect that will usually diminish once you begin working out. It is completely harmless and some people have more of a reaction than others. I have it somedays where it feels like a million tin pins are sticking me from the inside around my back, arms and neck other days the reaction is barely noticeable. For me the days I do have the reaction my workouts seem to be much more intense and I can do more.

There is a lot of information available on the effects of Beta Alanine along with the benefits that taking Beta Alanine has on the muscle tissue.

As far as the dose goes, you can try to play with it by decreasing the amount taken but I would give this a little time and maybe take your dose at the gym instead of before. Many people report the physical sensations pass after some use but the benefits are still there regardless of the Beta Alanine "Tingles" as they are commonly referred to.

Good work on your legs, I feel your pain, this is the first day since Wednesday I have been able to get out of bed without having to lift my leg out to the side. :o)

Good luck with the walking 10 hours today.

[Synapsin]

Legs today, Still not sleeping well? I took the NO-beta yesterday morning upon waking so i'm not sure if its that, Could the Test X6 be causeing my sleep iregularity?

woke up Brushed teeth lol then i go strait to the CreaDyl 2.5 scoops this morning for some reason- and i took 5 No-Beta with it, takes 15 minutes to get to the gym and i'm finished with CreaDyl, I then fill up 20 oz water and three scoops Glutacene- I felt like little bugs were crawling all over me this morning after i got to the gym, my skin was blotchy red. I didn't feel the pump i was expecting. I think 5 is too many No-Beta for my third day- had an awesome leg work out and i had sustained energy through out-



Yes, test boosters can definitely be a factor in sleep change, especially with the ZMA in TestX6. It should get better though, have you experienced any vivid dreams yet? Also, the bug feeling is from the Beta Alanine in the products, while the flush / blotchy red skin is a result of the Niacin. I would reduce the serving of NO-Beta just like you said and see how it goes, or split up the servings, and only take a few pre-workout and the rest another time.

[aschenbrenner]

Yes, test boosters can definitely be a factor in sleep change, especially with the ZMA in TestX6. It should get better though, have you experienced any vivid dreams yet? Also, the bug feeling is from the Beta Alanine in the products, while the flush / blotchy red skin is a result of the Niacin. I would reduce the serving of NO-Beta just like you said and see how it goes, or split up the servings, and only take a few pre-workout and the rest another time.

Thanks for the advice! Sleep has gotten great after 5 or 6 days of taking the Test X6 and jesus the dreams lol, I was at work and tried to stop someone from robbing a money machine and he shot me in the back and i ran around the rest of the dream with a hole in my back and blood all over me...... some other pretty crazy ones too haha but i'm feeling alot better when i wake up now.

I dropped the NO-Beta down to 4 pills right before work out and its awesome, I was so fricken strong today at the gym out lifted my buddy thats taking jack3d lol

Chest day

Flat DB press
50x10 for warm up
60x10
70x10
90x8 last two forced with spotter for 10

Lower cable fly
17.5x10
22.5x10
27.xx10 always holding flex on last rep, I'm in love with this exercise, I may make love to it some day

Incline BB press
125x10
175x10
195x10 Last two forced reps with spotter for 10

Center cable fly, shoulder level arms strait out
22.5x10
22.5x10
27.5x10

Decline DB press
60x10
70x10
70x7 last few forced with spotter for 10

Over heard fly
17.5x10 3 sets

There was three of us and we got done in 50 minutes

Finished with 3 sets of pushups till failure
33
26
18
I love it when i have to lay down and roll over onto my back to get up haha

15 minutes lvl 10 on bike with heart rate at 125 got some good reading in out of the muscle and fitness

The strength i had today was awesome i could have flipped the building over from the corner! I'm taking 2 scoops CreaDyl pre work out, 4 NO-Beta right before, and sipping 3 scoops Glutacene in 20oz water. I usually work on in morning but today was a night work out so i took Keto cuts this after noon, Will take Test 6X about 30 min before bed

[Credz]

Nice!!! Workout looks great. Chest is one of my favorite days. Love doing cable flyes!

[Synapsin]

Thanks for the advice! Sleep has gotten great after 5 or 6 days of taking the Test X6 and jesus the dreams lol, I was at work and tried to stop someone from robbing a money machine and he shot me in the back and i ran around the rest of the dream with a hole in my back and blood all over me...... some other pretty crazy ones too haha but i'm feeling alot better when i wake up now.

I dropped the NO-Beta down to 4 pills right before work out and its awesome, I was so fricken strong today at the gym out lifted my buddy thats taking jack3d lol

The strength i had today was awesome i could have flipped the building over from the corner! I'm taking 2 scoops CreaDyl pre work out, 4 NO-Beta right before, and sipping 3 scoops Glutacene in 20oz water. I usually work on in morning but today was a night work out so i took Keto cuts this after noon, Will take Test 6X about 30 min before bed

Hahah, its those ZMA dreams! I tell you, they're the craziest dreams ever but the sleep gets to be soooo good. 4 pills for NO beta seems like the right dosage for you, stick with that :) And I'm glad you feel so great, you certainly did great on your work out! Keep up the fantastic work.

[aschenbrenner]

Been sick the past two days, Missed yesterday and today at the gym, Not gonna miss tomorrow unless i'm dead

[drooks10]

Well, I sure hope you don't miss tomorrow then! Haha. Get well soon!

[aschenbrenner]

Well, I sure hope you don't miss tomorrow then! Haha. Get well soon!

Thanks bro- I was hoping to get through work today, but i went home sick and i also hoped i wouldn't have to use any drugs but i just bought some dayquill~

[aschenbrenner]

Been a while since i updated my log, Life has been getting in the way-

I'm leaving on the 20th to go see my real dad for the first time and that is pretty damn stressful lol. Not sure whats gonna happen, all kinds of anxiety about it. Gonna do my best to eat clean while i'm down there and hopefully my hotel has a gym so i can still go.

Well to update- i was sick about a week ago and missed two days at the gym and fortunately i didn't die so i went while still sick on the third day and did a light leg day which turned out to be a killer like usual cause i can't go easy once i get there, I didn't take any of my supps for those three days. Got back on it after those two days off and havn't missed another day since. Been trying to hit it really hard cause i've been reading about plateauing- I had been working out pretty steady for about two months before i started the contest, and there was about a three month break before that and before that i was hitting it hard for about 8 months. I've been around 11 percent body fat the whole time. I know where the fault is at lol. Its not my work outs at all for the body fat, its all in my diet and i have a hard time sticking with it. I read alot the past few days about preperation for the week and sticking to it atleast 21 days. Gonna get back after it starting tomorrow, even though today was pretty dang lean- I'm gonna keep a little note book with me and record times and what i eat.

Today was shoulders and abs and we hit the shoulders hard like always, i love shoulders and i'm seeing some nice striations in them.

Still loving the suppliments, I'm still taking two scoops CreaDyl and 4 NO-Beta pre, 3 scoops Glutacene during, I'm taking the Keto-Cuts but i don't know when i'm suppose to take them so i take them some time during the day, Still taking test x6 before bed.

[journey2swole]

hey Michael, good to see you posting again and glad you are over your illness. There is always something going on to detract us from hitting the workouts the way we really want to. I know for me it is a struggle everyday. You have to want it really bad.

Good luck on going to visit your Dad, I hope everything works out for you on that front.

I take my KetoCuts in the morning with my CreaDyl and NO Beta, for me I do not get any negative effects of doing it this way. If you do try taking it an hour to an hour and a half after your CreaDyl. I workout at 5 AM so if you workout during the afternoon or evening then take it with your breakfast. I take my second dose when I get home from work which is about 4-5 hours before bed. This time works well for me as well and I do not get any sleep disturbance with the evening dose.

For keeping strict on your nutrition plan try using the free program at www.fitday.com you can log all your intake and see a graphic picture of where you are at. And, best of all it is free!

Good luck and keep us updated

[aschenbrenner]

hey Michael, good to see you posting again and glad you are over your illness. There is always something going on to detract us from hitting the workouts the way we really want to. I know for me it is a struggle everyday. You have to want it really bad.

Good luck on going to visit your Dad, I hope everything works out for you on that front.

I take my KetoCuts in the morning with my CreaDyl and NO Beta, for me I do not get any negative effects of doing it this way. If you do try taking it an hour to an hour and a half after your CreaDyl. I workout at 5 AM so if you workout during the afternoon or evening then take it with your breakfast. I take my second dose when I get home from work which is about 4-5 hours before bed. This time works well for me as well and I do not get any sleep disturbance with the evening dose.

For keeping strict on your nutrition plan try using the free program at www.fitday.com you can log all your intake and see a graphic picture of where you are at. And, best of all it is free!

Good luck and keep us updated

Getting into shape is like a full time job! lol, I think after i get back from arizona i can quit my second job and have some more time for me!

[aschenbrenner]

do you take more then just two capsules per day? I'm just taking two, about 2 hours after my work outs cause i work out first thing in the morning, but since i work swings first thing in the morning is around 10 lol

[journey2swole]

The recommended dose is 1 cap 2 times daily about 8 hours apart.

I have found that the top end dose of 2 caps 2 times daily is what works best for me.

I also work some crazy shifts so morning for me can be anywhere from 4:20 AM or 10 PM depending upon what hours I am working that day.

[aschenbrenner]

The recommended dose is 1 cap 2 times daily about 8 hours apart.

I have found that the top end dose of 2 caps 2 times daily is what works best for me.

I also work some crazy shifts so morning for me can be anywhere from 4:20 AM or 10 PM depending upon what hours I am working that day.

So, in 2010 are we the normal ones with the odd hours? Or does the 9-5 still take the normal status lol I remember a time when the sun went down and it was bed time, and when the sun came up we rose to do our chores.... LOL ok maybe i'm only 27 and didn't live back then but still.....

I'm gonna try to break up the dose and see how that works, Thanks

[aschenbrenner]

I killed my self in the gym today! its awesome but sucks at the same time lol

chest and abs

Flat BB warm up 135x10

Flat BB Drop sets

215x4 195x4 175x4 155x4 135x4 No spotter on first set!!!!!
225x4 205x4 185x4 165x4 145x3 last rep i tried to pull the bar down to my self lol He had to rip it off me
195x4 175x4 155x4 135x4 115x4 exausted by this set so started lower

Lower cable flies
17.5x10
22.5x10
22.5x10

Incline DB

45x10
55x10
65x10
Very suprised at the strenght i still had after the drop sets

middle cable flies
22.5x10
17.5x10 so tired i wasn't getting a good squeeze with 22.5 so i dropped
17.5x10

Felt like puking so i didn't do any more chest

Abs made me wanna cry lol

superset decline crunch with 25lb plate, hanging knee raises and weighted oblique twists 3 sets with about 30 seconds rest at the end. I was so ready too go home after this i just wanted to sleep while driving, but i decided i wanted to live lol

Tomorrow gonna prolly do back and then play basketball for a couple hours

[jovinni]

Nice to have you back :)

Glad you're feeling better, good luck with the visit with your dad. How long will you be gone?

[aschenbrenner]

Nice to have you back :)

Glad you're feeling better, good luck with the visit with your dad. How long will you be gone?

I'm gonna go for a week, But i'll find a gym down there to get a week free trial or something at lol

[Credz]

Good looking workout! Did chest today myself. Looks like a good Ab workout too!

[aschenbrenner]

http://fitday.com/fitness/PublicJournals.html?Owner=Aschenbrenner

Check out the 17th that is what i ate today, the 18th is projected-

I'm cutting the peanut butter and olives because they seem to bee to much fat, and 3100 calories seems a bit much for this late in the game.

[journey2swole]

Michael, your last posted workout looked pretty sick bro, keep up the great work!

Your diet plan looks great as well, you should be seeing some great muscle gains. I think your fat intake is right in line with where you want it. With your activity level and the healthy fat sources I think I would maintain it at that level.

Looking forward to your next update!

[BPP]

dunno how I missed this for so long!

subscribed

[aschenbrenner]

i'm sitting at the air port waiting for my flight, it so early and i'm so tired yet so awake, maybe i should have slept last night lol. i bought a 7 dollar bag of crap, it should say crap in a bag "Jack Link's Beef steak nuggets" i hope my diet doesn't go to crap when i'm down in AZ. I did find the Anytime fitness in Tuscon so i'll be there first then when i wake up tomorrow lol.

[journey2swole]

i'm sitting at the air port waiting for my flight, it so early and i'm so tired yet so awake, maybe i should have slept last night lol. i bought a 7 dollar bag of crap, it should say crap in a bag "Jack Link's Beef steak nuggets" i hope my diet doesn't go to crap when i'm down in AZ. I did find the Anytime fitness in Tuscon so i'll be there first then when i wake up tomorrow lol.


Trying to maintain good nutrition when you fly or travel is one of the most difficult elements I encounter. I try to pack meals but have had 20+ hour delays and then it is TGIF or Chili's and there is hardly anthing healthy. O'hare is my personal nemesis, last time there I resisted during my delay until about 12:00 AM and ended up with a Chicago Dog.

Good luck and hope all goes well with your visit and meeting your Dad.

[Credz]

Good luck with visiting your Dad. What you hitting when you hit the gym man?

[StlBarbie]

How did your workout go in Tuscon?

I bet it is already really warming up in that part of the country!!!

Did you take all your supps with you?

[BPP]

How did your workout go in Tuscon?

I bet it is already really warming up in that part of the country!!!

Did you take all your supps with you?

few years ago I was in vegas and it was 100+ in march...cant imagine tuscon in may :eek:

[aschenbrenner]

How did your workout go in Tuscon?

I bet it is already really warming up in that part of the country!!!

Did you take all your supps with you?

Its been 99-101 the past three days i've been here. Been doing alot of site seeing and walking in the heat so i gotta stay hydrated!

Had jet lag and was super tired first day i arrived, Did some light jogging and a some what easy leg day, i had to work out cause of all the crap i ate in air port lol

Yesterday i did Arms and hit it hard and did 30 mins of cardio after words, then we went to the spanish mission and walked around there and then to mt lemmon and hiked there. Been eating jack in the box but still getting my protein shakes and supps

Oh to your questions hells yeah i brought my supps lol

Today i woke up late so after we got back from the biosphere i went and did chest feeling good about the work out for my fourth set on flat BB bench i put up 225 5 times alone and the spotter took most of the weight on 6 I then did 10 mins cardio on an incline at 3mph

Tomorrow were going to the sonora desert museum and zoo and i'll hit back at the gym tomorrow night

Thanks for keeping me on my game!

[Credz]

Looking good man! Glad you are enjoying yourself!

[aschenbrenner]

Great back work out today, I'm using the rest pause style of training that a trainer showed me and it works great!

Went to applebees after the work out and got a nice 7oz steak with some mashed tatters and vegitables boy was it good I was cutting it into smaller and smaller pieces so it would last longer lol

I posted some new pics i was here in the hotel room bored so they are self taken but they show some progress

[journey2swole]

Looks like your trip is going well, glad to see that you are enjoying yourself and still able to keep on your game with your workouts and nutrition plan. Way to be committed!! :cool:

Are you taking your supplements while you are working out away from home?

[aschenbrenner]

Looks like your trip is going well, glad to see that you are enjoying yourself and still able to keep on your game with your workouts and nutrition plan. Way to be committed!! :cool:

Are you taking your supplements while you are working out away from home?

of course lol, Still taking two scoops CreaDyl pre with 4 NO-Beta and then 3 scoops Glutecene during. and i'm sitll taking the test x6 at night, i ran out of keto cuts. Still loving them, yesterdays back work out was so awesome, i was dinking around before i hit the gym and the No-Beta reminded me its time or i'm gonna make you itch like crazy lol

[journey2swole]

of course lol, Still taking two scoops CreaDyl pre with 4 NO-Beta and then 3 scoops Glutecene during. and i'm sitll taking the test x6 at night, i ran out of keto cuts. Still loving them, yesterdays back work out was so awesome, i was dinking around before i hit the gym and the No-Beta reminded me its time or i'm gonna make you itch like crazy lol

I know that itchy feeling lol, typically the Beta Alanine does not hit me real hard in that way but today by the time I drank my Betacene and took 6 NO Beta and got to the gym I was itchin like a mad man and had red bumps all over lol. The desk guy at the gym asked if I had washed my workout clothes in a new detergent. It has been a while since I have had a reaction like that. Once I started lifting it was gone.

[aschenbrenner]

Gonna get one more work out in tomorrow before my plan leaves for washington! I can't wait to get home! I ate pretty bad while i was here but i kept the work out intensity very high and made sure to do cardio every day. Its also been blazing hot down here in AZ and all the walking during the site seeing helped burn off the crap i was eating. I've got a little over a month left till my final pictures so when i get home i'm gonna work my diet out to 2300 calories per day and see how my energy levels are and go from there.

I've never gotten any bumps from the NO but i do get super red and itchy if i don't hit the weights right away lol

[BPP]

Gonna get one more work out in tomorrow before my plan leaves for washington! I can't wait to get home! I ate pretty bad while i was here but i kept the work out intensity very high and made sure to do cardio every day. Its also been blazing hot down here in AZ and all the walking during the site seeing helped burn off the crap i was eating. I've got a little over a month left till my final pictures so when i get home i'm gonna work my diet out to 2300 calories per day and see how my energy levels are and go from there.

I've never gotten any bumps from the NO but i do get super red and itchy if i don't hit the weights right away lol

hope you enjoyed the trip, and lookin forward to some killer sessions @ home

solid job workin out best ya can on trip tho!