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pmanninger
03-14-2010, 03:34 AM
Twice a day, every day, I make a jalapenos stew (my own simple recipe: jalapenos, onions, carrot, peas, olive oil). Initially I started with two or three jalapenos, which was hot enough to make me pause every so often to cool my tongue. Very quickly I have developed a resistance to the peppers.

I now eat 20-30 jalapenos a day and despite this the hotness is very weak. They also cause me no discomfort at any point of my digestive system. This resistance isn't just contained to my digestive system either. If I get some under my fingernail... nothing, despite the same happening to me earlier and my finger tip feeling the burning effects. If I breath it in (unintentinually) after it has blended... nothing - but if someone else is near they will have a coughing fit. I don't even sweat when I eat them, like I used to. No doubt I'll need to up the intake even further but at what cost?

My question is will/is this cause me any harm? Early when I first bumped up the number to twenty a day I had stomach pain on the next day, so I reduced my intake a bit for a few days, but now I feel nothing - actually I feel great.

Ideally I'd like to get a response from someone who understand capsaicin at a chemical level, but any response are welcomed.

On Fire
03-14-2010, 10:48 AM
Wasn't able to find anything but positives for capsaicin to be honest, but I can tell you that the LD50 in mice is 47.2 mg/kg. I don't believe jalapeno's contain much capsaicin at all, so I don't think you have any worries :P

pmanninger
03-15-2010, 12:59 AM
Wasn't able to find anything but positives for capsaicin to be honest, but I can tell you that the LD50 in mice is 47.2 mg/kg. I don't believe jalapeno's contain much capsaicin at all, so I don't think you have any worries :P

Hi. Thanks for the reply. Do you know if there is any weight behind people who say they can cause stomach cancer?

Also, is it possible that the peppers have completely exhausted the neuro chemical that causes the perception of this type of pain, and that I may be taking damage without knowing it?

NZDarren
03-15-2010, 01:02 AM
Can you post your stew receipe?
Any pics?

badnewz74
03-15-2010, 01:04 AM
Can you post your stew receipe?
Any pics?

This. Sounds good lol

On Fire
03-15-2010, 01:54 AM
Hi. Thanks for the reply. Do you know if there is any weight behind people who say they can cause stomach cancer?
I read a study that said exactly that, and a study that said exactly the opposite. I'd guess there's minimal relation, however, I would suggest to you that eating a variety of foods is far more beneficial to you than fixating on one, even if the one food source is a healthy one. Perhaps you should mix it up and try something new on a rotational basis?


Also, is it possible that the peppers have completely exhausted the neuro chemical that causes the perception of this type of pain, and that I may be taking damage without knowing it?

Unlikely. Someone like In10city would have a better answer.

pmanninger
03-17-2010, 12:31 AM
Can you post your stew receipe?
Any pics?


This. Sounds good lol

Next time I make it I'll post the pics. That will be tomorrow morning unless I have an extra serving tonight.

I think it's delicious but my taste buds are very primitive.

For one serving you'll need the following:

* 10-15 jalapenos (I suppose you could substitute some of the jalapenos with bell peppers, if that's too much heat, or until you adapt to that many)
* 2 onions
* 1/3 of a carrot
* 1 garlic clove
* ~100g green peas
* ~100ml extra virgin olive oil
* ~100ml water

1.) Into the blender: 1 onion, all the jalapenos, the piece of carrot, ~100ml water, and garlic. Blend for 5 seconds
2.) Place mixture into pan.
3.) Dice the other onion and add into pan.
4.) Add green peas to pan.
5.) Add olive oil to pan and mix.
6.) Cook until it has boiled for a few minutes then serve.

If you wanted it to taste better I'd add a tomato and ground black pepper, but I don't eat either of those things. I designed the meal to fight inflammation.

EDIT: I know 100ml of olive oil is a lot. I get about 88% of my calories from fat (7% from protien and 5% from carbs). This has been going on for a number of months now. I might go into that more tomorrow.

bloodsimple1234
03-17-2010, 02:55 PM
anything spicy you want to eat in moderation.It is not just jalapenos and stomach cancer.

I could eat spicy tuna rolls and jalapenos everyday. lol moderation is def the key.

pmanninger
03-17-2010, 04:18 PM
anything spicy you want to eat in moderation.It is not just jalapenos and stomach cancer.

I could eat spicy tuna rolls and jalapenos everyday. lol moderation is def the key.

But why? Especially when I don't feel the after-effects other people talk about as persuading them not to eat more.


Pics incoming shortly.

EDIT: Turns out I don't have enough posts yet to post a pic. Anyway, it basically looks like a giant salsa.

bloodsimple1234
03-18-2010, 03:38 PM
But why? Especially when I don't feel the after-effects other people talk about as persuading them not to eat more.


Pics incoming shortly.

EDIT: Turns out I don't have enough posts yet to post a pic. Anyway, it basically looks like a giant salsa.

doesn't mean it will not effect you later on.It is not a major concern,just something I would eat in moderation is all.

Don't eat spicy tuna roll several times a week,pour tobasco all over you eggs each am,eat jalapenos for dinner..

kimmypoohx3
03-19-2010, 10:36 AM
how come you are eating this 2x/day? ...curious. Just posted a blog about capsaicin and a study done regarding the death of fat cells. Give me more info.

pmanninger
03-19-2010, 04:20 PM
how come you are eating this 2x/day? ...curious. Just posted a blog about capsaicin and a study done regarding the death of fat cells. Give me more info.

That's just how it worked out in terms of my calorie needs and food budget (it's cheaper for me to have 2 jalapenos "stews" and 1 salmon meal than the other way around). It began with me becoming interested in anti-inflammatory foods and jalapenos are held in very high regard in that area. In initially I was very reluctant adding jalapenos to my diet as for some reason I associated them to being counter-productive to muscle building. But I've now being eating them in increasing numbers for a couple months and I think this is the best shape I've been in (especially fitness and bf% wise). I'm maintaining my weight yet it seems like every day I'm seeing new veins unveiled or more striations. My fitness level has rocketed through the roof despite the fact I haven't really done any extra work on that - everything feels like a breeze.

The jalapenos, along with the rest of my diet, have also helped resolve some inflammation related problems (back problem from injury 8 years ago, compartment sydrome, weak circulation, even razor "burn" from shaving, etc). Actually, I challenge you to name a negative health condition that can't be linked to excess inflamation in some way. This is what I designed my diet for. I don't eat anything that is known to be inflammatory (which is 95% of things in a modern diet) and or something that I couldn't have found 10000 years ago. After my results all I can say is the human race as strayed very far in terms of their nutrition (not saying that early man ate 20 + jalapenos a day, or any at all, but you get me point).

kimmypoohx3
03-21-2010, 07:10 PM
go to my body blog, its the 3rd or 4th post down with a link(think i wrote it a week or 2 ago). I'm interested in getting grant money from my university for doing a study on capsaicin, but that's kind of a different context. I'm glad they are working well for the inflammation, they said it was supposed to help with arthritis even! I'm just more curious on the fat loss effects of it-jalepenos are a low source of it, however there is a possibility that it might be a duration-in-the-body type of thing, since you have adapted the immunity to it I'm sure you've been eating it for a long time. very interesting. Details on your bf% loss, gains in gym, etc? I'm excited about this-lol-i was bugging the chair of my department about this for the past month!

ImHuge07
06-16-2012, 03:58 PM
I'm sweating just from reading this thread.

texicus
06-16-2012, 05:00 PM
OP this sounds pretty delicious but

how is your angus handling all this

gymjunki3
06-17-2012, 05:47 PM
I love jalapenos I eat them everyday as well.

Cant wait for the pics.

Moulson
06-18-2012, 01:46 PM
Twice a day, every day, I make a jalapenos stew (my own simple recipe: jalapenos, onions, carrot, peas, olive oil). Initially I started with two or three jalapenos, which was hot enough to make me pause every so often to cool my tongue. Very quickly I have developed a resistance to the peppers.

I now eat 20-30 jalapenos a day and despite this the hotness is very weak. They also cause me no discomfort at any point of my digestive system. This resistance isn't just contained to my digestive system either. If I get some under my fingernail... nothing, despite the same happening to me earlier and my finger tip feeling the burning effects. If I breath it in (unintentinually) after it has blended... nothing - but if someone else is near they will have a coughing fit. I don't even sweat when I eat them, like I used to. No doubt I'll need to up the intake even further but at what cost?

My question is will/is this cause me any harm? Early when I first bumped up the number to twenty a day I had stomach pain on the next day, so I reduced my intake a bit for a few days, but now I feel nothing - actually I feel great.

Ideally I'd like to get a response from someone who understand capsaicin at a chemical level, but any response are welcomed.

If you were eating 30 habanero peppers (30x 100,000–350,000 units) a day then we might have a problem. There are many cultures around the world who's diets are comprised of much hotter chili's than Jalapeno's (30x 3,500–8,000 units). Mexico, Thailand, India to name a few. Look at the Scoville scale for heat levels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_rating

A good read: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/anthropology-in-practice/2011/12/02/why-do-some-like-it-hot/