D4000's Bulk in 2010

[determined4000]

just tried making the cc ice cream. i used the following ingredients:

1 cup cottage cheese (a little less)
0.5 cups of skim milk
1 scoop of UNFLAVORED (oh my god) milk protein isolate
1 cup of strawberries
2 tsp of raw motherf*cking refined processed god damned white cane sugar (2 tsp of sugar is only 30 calories? i thought it was way more)

i blended all of the ingredients together and am freezing now. didn't realize i was supposed to only blend the cottage cheese. will report on its awesomeness when it's done freezing.

I always buy my protein powder unflavored. after blending it all together it tasted pretty bland. so I threw in a little bit of chocolate banana flavoring (I buy the flavoring and the powder separately).

any ideas d4k on ways to flavor it naturally that don't involve adding like hundreds of calories worth of stuff with fruit and peanut butter and such? as far as i can tell, unsweetened cocoa powder tastes bitter and awful.

not that i'm a stickler for the "natural" stuff, but i don't really like the taste of fake chocolate banana flavor all that much.
hmmmmm
not sure how unflavored protein is going to make it
the flavoring of the protein is kinda key
Are you open to stevia? It is natural. I would add that to cocoa powder, if you are trying to avoid excess calories from add-ins. If stevia is ok, you can also get flavored protein that is stevia sweetened (MGN is what I use).

[On Fire]

Im with D on this one. You're gonna want that sweetness from the protein powder. Vanilla goes really well with all kinds of fruit. Might be ok with a cup of strawberries and some sugar, but IMO use flavored stuff.

I also like adding a little vanilla extract.

[Insight]

yeah, i have stevia. but fwiw the sugar doesn't add that much calories - 2 tsp of sugar is like 30 calories. big deal. a bigger source of calories would be me adding a banana and 1 tbsp of peanut butter - that's like 200 cals right there.

i did throw in the chocolate banana flavoring in at the end, but it'd be cool to find some way to naturally flavor it. not "Naturally" as in use stevia instead of sugar, i mean just more ways to add flavoring without a lot of calories. apparently sugar isn't as high in cals as i thought

[determined4000]

yeah, i have stevia. but fwiw the sugar doesn't add that much calories - 2 tsp of sugar is like 30 calories. big deal. a bigger source of calories would be me adding a banana and 1 tbsp of peanut butter - that's like 200 cals right there.

i did throw in the chocolate banana flavoring in at the end, but it'd be cool to find some way to naturally flavor it. not "Naturally" as in use stevia instead of sugar, i mean just more ways to add flavoring without a lot of calories. apparently sugar isn't as high in cals as i thought

Just curious as to why the person who wrote this
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=439205611
and openly advocated eating dirty foods is avoiding a natural sweetner that has been used by the Japanese and Indian tribes for years and why why think it is worse than sugar?
I see myself as a very clean eater (very) but don't see the benefit of empty calories that I can replace with more nutrients from foods.
And why not something with more benefits, like honey?

[Insight]

Just curious as to why the person who wrote this
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=439205611
and openly advocated eating dirty foods is avoiding a natural sweetner that has been used by the Japanese and Indian tribes for years and why why think it is worse than sugar?
I see myself as a very clean eater (very) but don't see the benefit of empty calories that I can replace with more nutrients from foods.
And why not something with more benefits, like honey?

because stevia tastes like ass, and sugar only has 30 calories in it, so why would i pick a 0 calorie version that tastes like ass over a negligibly small 30 calorie version that tastes good

the problem is that it doesn't have FLAVOR, not that it isn't sweet enough

[determined4000]

because stevia tastes like ass, and sugar only has 30 calories in it, so why would i pick a 0 calorie version that tastes like ass over a negligibly small 30 calorie version that tastes good

the problem is that it doesn't have FLAVOR, not that it isn't sweet enough

ok :)

[Insight]

CINNAMON

by god you're a god damned genius

[determined4000]

CINNAMON

by god you're a god damned genius

yeah, I've done that b4. Good thinking
Does that mean it came out alright?

[Insight]

yeah, I've done that b4. Good thinking
Does that mean it came out alright?

if by alright you mean "2 hours later and it still isn't frozen," then yes

[determined4000]

if by alright you mean "2 hours later and it still isn't frozen," then yes

ok
aluminum had a similar problem
I think I need to change my listing in the recipe because most of the time I am not blending (using whipped) so it never takes more tha 90mins or so.
Noted.
My apologies.

[Insight]

ok
aluminum had a similar problem
I think I need to change my listing in the recipe because most of the time I am not blending (using whipped) so it never takes more tha 90mins or so.
Noted.
My apologies.

ok, it's mostly frozen, but... tastes like ass. i guess 2tsp sugar AND chocolate banana flavor is no good. i'll need to figure something out in the future.

i added some lemon juice to make it tangier, and now i'm trying to choke it down because i dunno what % of it i've eaten so far and i don't want to go over my caloric limit for the day.

my god, the pain.

but i bet if i screw with cocoa powder + some sugar + cinnamon next time i will = profit

[Insight]

i just came up against a piece of chopped up strawberry that I guess didn't get blended in all the way. mother of god.

to all of you people playing at home: don't blend the strawberries. slap chop them and throw them in. you'll win big money.

lemon juice is making this delightful as well.

[determined4000]

i just came up against a piece of chopped up strawberry that I guess didn't get blended in all the way. mother of god.

to all of you people playing at home: don't blend the strawberries. slap chop them and throw them in. you'll win big money.

lemon juice is making this delightful as well.

yeah I really dont know how to deal with unflavored whey
what do you normally do with it?

[Insight]

yeah I really dont know how to deal with unflavored whey
what do you normally do with it?

it's unflavored milk protein isolate actually, 70/30 casein/whey. it's awesome in pancakes, i've been screwing around with the recipe for ages now. mix flour, oil, casein, some sugar, an egg, milk, wheat germ, and some salt together. works like a charm.

the key is the casein + wheat germ part. the casein almost has the texture of flour and the wheat germ makes it taste like wheat (and hence like pancakes). i was doing this a while ago with oats instead of flour and it was pretty good, but now that i realize it's unnecessary i'm going back to flour to see if i can get the ultimate pancake.

My current recipe (which needs tweaking and is not perfect) is

Egg, whole
1.0 x 1 large (33g)
Kretschmer Original Toasted Wheat Germ, 2 Tbsp
1.0 x Custom Food (13g)
Milk, nonfat, fluid, without added vitamin A (fat free or skim)
0.75 x 1 cup (245g)
Oil, vegetable, canola [low erucic acid rapeseed oil]
0.5 x 1 tbsp (14g)
Salt, table
0.25 x 1 tsp (6g)
Sugars, granulated [sucrose]
2.0 x 1 tsp (4g)
*********** Milk Protein Isolate, 1 scoop
2.0 x Custom Food (30g)
Wheat flour, white, all-purpose, enriched, bleached
0.25 x 1 cup (125g)

as you can see i was messing around with wheat bran too. the thing is that for this recipe to really taste good, 1 tsp of salt will do the trick, but then you're at 100% of the rdi of sodium already.

the breakdown above yields 4 bigass pancakes

705 cals, 18g fat, 49g carbohizzle, 70g of the good stuff

if you want to make it lower in cals for whatever reason you can use egg whites instead of eggs and replace some wheat flour with wheat bran and remove the oil and all of that to get it like 200-300 cals lower, but i have yet to tweak the recipe to make it perfect yet. so if you want to adjust it then do so.

[KOMED]

looks delicious brah

[crafty100]

God I hope you are asking for what I used specifically and not the "base" ingredients which D has posted multiple, multiple times. Lol.

I used:
- 1/2 cup 1% cottage cheese
- 1/4 cup chocolate milk
- Approximately 3/4 scoop of chocolate PB Muscle Milk Light
- Some cocoa powder
- 1 TBSP of chocolate Better N' Peanut Butter (trying to get rid of it)

Yeah ur specific recipe :) I have tried 'D''s and it is gd just wanted to know of your variation really, Thanks

Will give it a try :)

[determined4000]

Eats
Turkey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/MEN261.jpg?t=1273168252

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN208.jpg?t=1273168306

TVP oatmeal, berries and PB (kinda fuzzy pic)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/1f722dde.jpg?t=1273168191

Pancakes w/ SF syrup and 1 tbsp Promise
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/20090308pancakes.jpg?t=1273168105

Macros: 2350
211g protein
87g fat
182.75g carbs

Workout: Biked
Went for a bike ride and felt like I had ridiculous energy. I went after one of the huge (and I mean huge) hills around my house that I have avoided. I pumped up that beast. Spokes, if you are reading this, you would have been proud (you would have been blowing by me as if I was moving in slow motion, but still).
I also overcame aother obstacle by ot tracking my exercise. I ditched my onboard comp so I didn't know how many miles I was putting in. I am normally anal of calories in vs. calories out.

[determined4000]

Sorry no pics today

Macros: 2310
?g protein
?g carbs
?g fat

I felt so free yesterday not knowing my exact calorie balance, that I decided the next step was to not obsess over macros. As I have said before, I know I easily hit my minimums. So why do I obsess so much over hitting exact 0.1grams of macro X, Y and Z? Although I always enjoy the food I eat, it is always planned and fits a purpose. SO for the next few days at least I am not counting macros. I didn't even count calories yesterday. What I did was weigh out and write down everything I was eating, then this morning when I got up I added it all up. I ended up being slightly below my normal 2350, but was pretty pleased with how close I came to hitting my numbers by feel (and knowing about how much I eat every day). I want to make sure I am not coming up short, so now I will track calories but not macros (well technically they will be tracked I just can't see them). I feel freed.

Workout: Chest, tri's, lats

4 x incline
2 x tri ext
4 x weighted dips (tried to go up weight on last set but couldn't hit it w/o losing form)
4 x back lats
4 x front lats (PR last set)
3 x bench

I also killed my workout. I was disappointed last session that I couldn't complete my last bench press set. Today I knocked it out and went up in weight with the lats for the last set. Tried to go up in weight with the dips but would have had to lose form to complete it.
Tomorrow will be shoulders, bis and back (looking forward to some deads).

[Insight]

do you always use sugar free syrup on pancakes?

[determined4000]

do you always use sugar free syrup on pancakes?

if I use syrup

[Insight]

if I use syrup

why not regular?

[determined4000]

why not regular?

Loads of sugar and hypoglycemia don't mix
never could use regular syrup (pre-ED)

[orelz]

omg those pancakes looks so appetizing, can u share the recipe? i misght use it @ my carb-up

[Alluminum]

ok
aluminum had a similar problem
I think I need to change my listing in the recipe because most of the time I am not blending (using whipped) so it never takes more tha 90mins or so.
Noted.
My apologies.

To reduce freeze time you should whip the cottage cheese first in a food processor and stir in the rest, thats what worked for me the second time.

[Holyspokes]

Great progress the last few days D, keep it up!

Biking is fun aint it? ;)

[get_hype]

determined, just out of curiosity do you ever go out to eat or do you eat all your meals at home? And do you ever eat with or cook for family and friends?

Hey yo, d! You never answered my question :(

[determined4000]

Hey yo, d! You never answered my question :(

sorry
I rarely go out to eat o my own, but will go out with family.
Most meals are on my own, as I live alone.
Eat meals with family when I visit them or they visit me, like Sunday for Mother's Day.
If I am visiting my parents, my mom will usually do the cooking, unless it's summer and they are doing something on the grill, in which case my dad take charge.
When I did live at home, on occasion I would cook dinner for the family.

[jeffisdabest]

orelz you arent supposed to carb up every day son leave this thread and go to the e.d. one now and please get help.

and determined i just finished skimming your log proud to see your doing so much better with your e.d. :D

and i am officialy subbed and in ;)

[LEX-UA]

....*knock* *knock*...


:p

[Emma-Leigh]

Eats
Turkey
[img]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/MEN261.jpg?t=1273168252[img]

[img]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN208.jpg?t=1273168306[img]

TVP oatmeal, berries and PB (kinda fuzzy pic)
[img]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/1f722dde.jpg?t=1273168191[img]

Pancakes w/ SF syrup and 1 tbsp Promise
[img]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/20090308pancakes.jpg?t=1273168105[img]

Macros: 2350
211g protein
87g fat
182.75g carbs

Workout: Biked
Went for a bike ride and felt like I had ridiculous energy. I went after one of the huge (and I mean huge) hills around my house that I have avoided. I pumped up that beast. Spokes, if you are reading this, you would have been proud (you would have been blowing by me as if I was moving in slow motion, but still).
I also overcame aother obstacle by ot tracking my exercise. I ditched my onboard comp so I didn't know how many miles I was putting in. I am normally anal of calories in vs. calories out.


^ can I be proud cause you ate grapes. :o

:)

[determined4000]

....*knock* *knock*...


:p

gone for Mother's day weekend
Plus studying for exams
Plus studying for the GRE
Plus starting work the week after, so
Not sure if I was going to have time to post pics and didn't think any1 was going to notice if I stopped. I guess I could post daily progress reports but I don't think people would much care.

[GlobalConflict]

I care! Hahah, i like seeing the inspiration plus to see your progress. But, im in the same boat, focus on the important **** first

And whats the recipe for those pancakes?

[recovering]

Hope everything is going well!

[PBateman2]

Sorry no pics today

Macros: 2310
?g protein
?g carbs
?g fat

I felt so free yesterday not knowing my exact calorie balance, that I decided the next step was to not obsess over macros. As I have said before, I know I easily hit my minimums. So why do I obsess so much over hitting exact 0.1grams of macro X, Y and Z? Although I always enjoy the food I eat, it is always planned and fits a purpose. SO for the next few days at least I am not counting macros. I didn't even count calories yesterday. What I did was weigh out and write down everything I was eating, then this morning when I got up I added it all up. I ended up being slightly below my normal 2350, but was pretty pleased with how close I came to hitting my numbers by feel (and knowing about how much I eat every day). I want to make sure I am not coming up short, so now I will track calories but not macros (well technically they will be tracked I just can't see them). I feel freed.

Workout: Chest, tri's, lats

4 x incline
2 x tri ext
4 x weighted dips (tried to go up weight on last set but couldn't hit it w/o losing form)
4 x back lats
4 x front lats (PR last set)
3 x bench

I also killed my workout. I was disappointed last session that I couldn't complete my last bench press set. Today I knocked it out and went up in weight with the lats for the last set. Tried to go up in weight with the dips but would have had to lose form to complete it.
Tomorrow will be shoulders, bis and back (looking forward to some deads).

All the food posts/pics are cool.

I wanna see this. Great workout! KILLED IT. Cals excellent as well.

Post the workouts and progress. Im on you, man.

Takes 5 min to post!

Train hard.

[determined4000]

I care! Hahah, i like seeing the inspiration plus to see your progress.


Hope everything is going well!


All the food posts/pics are cool.

I wanna see this. Great workout! KILLED IT. Cals excellent as well.

Post the workouts and progress. Im on you, man.

Takes 5 min to post!

Train hard.
Sounds like I was wrong.
I will start posting again tomorrow.

[PBateman2]

Sounds like I was wrong.
I will start posting again tomorrow.

Good stuff. Are you on a MWF split?

[determined4000]

Good stuff. Are you on a MWF split?

Generally been following a 4day cycle
Chest, tris, lats
legs, abs
Shoulder, back, bi's
rest
repeat

[PBateman2]

Generally been following a 4day cycle
Chest, tris, lats
legs, abs
Shoulder, back, bi's
rest
repeat

Perfect.

[determined4000]

Back to the logging and back to my favorite, flapjacks.

Pancakes (Cinnamon, ginger, and pumpkin spiced)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/MEN245.jpg?t=1274046895

Sirloin Strip Steak
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/MEN038.jpg?t=1274046948

Kashi
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture948.jpg?t=1274117013

Broccoli and Hot sauce
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/veggies/Picture901.jpg?t=1274117088

Also did some inventory on my protein stash
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/personal/Picture950.jpg?t=1274117131
Realized I have 65-70lbs, so NOT ordering any for awhile. Don't feel to bad because I got a really good deal on the MGN and the stuff is delicious.

Macros
2350
202g protein
90g fat
183g carbs


Workout: Chest, tris, lats
3 x bench
5 x incline
4 x weighted dips
3 x tri extension
3 x lats
3 x skull crushers

Felt like I was really working hard towards the end of the workout and felt a little sore this morning (in a good way). Looking to increase weight next workout. Today will be shoulders, bis, and back

[On Fire]

Realized I have 65-70lbs, so NOT ordering any for awhile. Don't feel to bad because I got a really good deal on the MGN and the stuff is delicious.

Bahaahaha you really are as bad as me. I'm just picking up the last of my orders today (if they're all in). Then REALLY no more buying lol.

How come you don't chow down on all those samples? I work mine into my daily intake. I try the pre-workouts/creatines on sundays, which is typically my "do nothing" day, becuase I don't like to interrupt whats working for me. Then I'll go in and do some cardio or something rather than skip the gym entirely.

[PBateman2]

Good chest workout D! Macros on point.

How do you guys get so much protein? Just keep stocking up when you see a deal?

I mean really - 60-70lbs of protien - lol. Jeez.

[RyouBakua]

Just keep stocking up when you see a deal?



Pretty much.

I also have around 50 lbs at my house.
Just never felt the need to make a thread for it.

[determined4000]

How do you guys get so much protein? Just keep stocking up when you see a deal?

I mean really - 60-70lbs of protien - lol. Jeez.

Pretty much
I wanted something new from the custom whey (not posting name of supplier cause it would just get **** out), so I had ordered 15 lbs of MGN (always buy in bulk to save $). Then like a week later they had a sale of buy 2-2lb isolate and get 1 free. Plus I had a discount code and another 10% froma previous order. So I ended up being able to get 24lbs (6lbs of 4 flavors) for $125.00. 5 dollars per lb of an isolate with such good macros--> 69g of protein per dollar--> I couldn't pass up the offer, knowing it was a limited time thing. So I made the order and just said I would be set for awhile. Running out of storage space - lol.

I tend to stock up on things when they go on sale. Do the same thing with just about all food items I buy. When it goes on sale I buy in bulk (and freeze if its perishable).

[On Fire]

How do you guys get so much protein? Just keep stocking up when you see a deal?

Thats basically it. There's been some killer deals I capitalized on. 2 for 1 2:1 protein bars, Myofusion for hella cheap, MGN's buy 2 get 1 free deal, SciFit's 20% off deal, among others.

[GlobalConflict]

Pretty much
I wanted something new from the custom whey (not posting name of supplier cause it would just get **** out), so I had ordered 15 lbs of MGN (always buy in bulk to save $). Then like a week later they had a sale of buy 2-2lb isolate and get 1 free. Plus I had a discount code and another 10% froma previous order. So I ended up being able to get 24lbs (6lbs of 4 flavors) for $125.00. 5 dollars per lb of an isolate with such good macros--> 69g of protein per dollar--> I couldn't pass up the offer, knowing it was a limited time thing. So I made the order and just said I would be set for awhile. Running out of storage space - lol.

I tend to stock up on things when they go on sale. Do the same thing with just about all food items I buy. When it goes on sale I buy in bulk (and freeze if its perishable).

ya like wise, except that i dont continue on buying protein if i know i have enough for a long time. because i know sales come, and who knows, i might see a better deal, you know what i mean?

[PBateman2]

Thats basically it. There's been some killer deals I capitalized on. 2 for 1 2:1 protein bars, Myofusion for hella cheap, MGN's buy 2 get 1 free deal, SciFit's 20% off deal, among others.

Thanks. I think I may do that to a certain degree - not 70lbs though:)

I always wait to buy until I have like a handful of servings left then sometimes run into trouble.

I'll try a 30lb stash to begin with then maybe increase from there. Its like a bulk..you kinda just increase the calories slowly..hahahaha.

Good stuff! Thx everyone!

[determined4000]

D4000 tested, Taste-bud approved:

Chocolate PB casein CC Ice Cream
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/ChocolateIceCream_2005_07_25.jpg?t=1274214809


Ginger-Peanut Sauce chicken stir fry
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/phonepictures091.jpg?t=1274214698


Scrambled eggs with salsa
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/Picture919.jpg?t=1274215146


Sorry the pic isn't better but this was a Bowl of Deliciousness

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture947.jpg?t=1274214857

Was looking for a way to finish off my macros. Beat 1 egg in bowl and added 30g pancake mix, and 30g oats. Cooked it for a 1min+. Then added 80g Cream cheese, a couple tbsp canned pumpkin and 1/2tsp pumpkin spice + and re-microwaved until cheese had melted in, stirred in a little sweetener and YUM! Found it works well using a recycled CC container so I could put a lid on the top while microwaving (but did not seal it)

Macros
Calories-2360
Protein-210g
Fat-88g
Carbs-182g


Workout: shoulders, bis, back
5 x dead lifts
5x overhead press
2 x seated rows
4 x curls
4 x weighted pullups
1 x Shrug to failure

Question of the day
What do you do when you are stuck between weight/going for a PR?
-With a few lifts I am finding it too easy for 10reps but have to lose form to go up in weight. If it is a barbell I have to go up 10lbs or dumbbell 5 (either way 5lbs per arm). It is frustrating because I do not want to lose form and deceive myself into thinking I am going up in weight, yet doing my current weight is not forcing me to push myself and I can end up doing 15+ reps if I want.
-Wondering what you guys do when going for a PR. Should I take slightly more rest time before attempting, or try less rest time so my heart rate is elevated?
Thoughts/Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Quote of the day
(inspired to add this by Manu and Recovering to keep me motivated)

"I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past."
~Patrick Henry~

[PBateman2]

Youre on it D! Deads are REAL work. Diet is solid as well.

Excellent quote. It hits home nicely.

That ice cream (first pic) - could you please post or PM me the recipe? Know the calorie/macro breakdown? BTW - I tried your sludge this past weekend and forgot to mention it in my journal. It was awesome.

Question of the day (great idea BTW) - Ahhh its that fine line between excellent form and throwing up some more weight. My take is that form is of utmost importance in executing any exercise. Sometimes though (i.e. to get past plateaus, for PRs, etc.) a little "body english" is completely acceptable -IMO. Sometimes the form may suffer just a bit but a little bit of a cheat is fine. Spotters help as well. Dont think form though should go completely out the window for the sake of increasing weight and hence resulting in injury. Just want to be clear on that.

Before attempting a PR, I do take a bit more rest (30 sec-1min) and basically become completely focused on the task at hand. The actual number of pounds that I attempt for a PR becomes "zero" in my mind. I think of the weight as essentially nothing. As you know, half the game is mental. Weight is going up regardless.

Keep training hard.

[recovering]

Ginger peanut sauce sounds like a great idea! I've never had it, but ginger and PB are two of my favorite things :) No advice really, but if you continue pushing hard as you have been (both in the gym and mentally through food choices), I think that maybe if you give yourself a bit more time, you'll hit that increased weight without having to compromise form. Maybe a slight change in routine would be helpful? I'll let others chime in on this one; they'll give you far better advice I'm sure ;)

[determined4000]

The actual number of pounds that I attempt for a PR becomes "zero" in my mind. I think of the weight as essentially nothing. As you know, half the game is mental. Weight is going up regardless.



Definitely keeping this in mind next time.

[On Fire]

It's funny how mental heavy lifting is. I used a belt for deads for the first time today, repped out 285x12 easily. Next set, I ****ed around with my straps too long, looked around the gym too much, got out of the zone, didn't breathe right and I managed 5 before I felt like I was going to die.

You seriously have to eliminate ALL sources of distraction. It's YOU and the WEIGHTS, and you aren't about to be beaten by an inanimate object.

[determined4000]

It's YOU and the WEIGHTS, and you aren't about to be beaten by an inanimate object.

I going to add a teammate
Caffeine

[SusieP]

Bowl of Deliciousness looks great!

[On Fire]

I going to add a teammate
Caffeine

I went caffeine free for about 2 weeks before I said "f this" and got back on the pre-workouts lol. Any of the mainstream ones should do you well, or even coffee if you're not interested in the other ingredients.

I've used xpand, superpump and white flood with good results, and as for preworkouts with dimethylamylamine, jack3d, cryoshock and 1mr are all pretty awesome too.

[determined4000]

I went caffeine free for about 2 weeks before I said "f this" and got back on the pre-workouts lol. Any of the mainstream ones should do you well, or even coffee if you're not interested in the other ingredients.

I've used xpand, superpump and white flood with good results, and as for preworkouts with dimethylamylamine, jack3d, cryoshock and 1mr are all pretty awesome too.

Coffee, Mountain Dew or Green Tea is the way I roll.

[On Fire]

Coffee, Mountain Dew or Green Tea is the way I roll.

My tea stash is almost as big as my crystal light stash which is almost as big as my protein stash lol.

[determined4000]

Tuna Broccoli mix
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/CIMG0085.jpg

French toast with berries
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/french3.jpg

PWO whey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture825.jpg[img]

Dessert
[img]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/Picture839.jpg

This + Spoon
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture942.jpg

Macros
2310 Calories
207g protein
88g fat
172.5g carbs

Workout: Biked in the AM, Hit Legs in the PM (maybe not the best idea)
5 x squats
3 x stiff legged deads
5 x leg ext
3 x calf raises
Legs weren't burnt at this point so I decided to do a few sets of abs to finish off.
Today's workout will be chest, tris, and lats. Will keep in mid what Manu and OnFire said when going for PRs. Hopefully good news to be posted tomorrow.

My Ride
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/personal/Picture910.jpg

Quote of the Day
"In absence of clearly defined goals, we become strangely loyal to performing daily acts of trivia."
~Author Unknown~

Daily Trivia
How many Dunkin Donuts are there within a 50mile radius of Boston? (insert Jeopardy music here)

[PBateman2]

Jeez you biked and then did legs? Got me beat. That's true MURDER. Nice workout.

Trivia question: 20 locations within a 50 mile radius of Boston. Close?

[metal_militia01]

Can i get the recipe? never heard of the ice cream, and thats my weakness.
PM'd

[determined4000]

Trivia question: 20 locations within a 50 mile radius of Boston. Close?

Higher
clearly you are not from the Northeast
Any1 else have a guess?

[On Fire]

42?

If you are going for PR's D, do the weights before the biking! You need to set yourself up with some aero bars! Can probably find some for pretty cheap.

Watch your intake if you get heavy into biking though, it's INCREDIBLE how many calories it can burn. I know a guy who bikes to work and counts calories, he's in his 40's, he's 170 pounds, around 5'8, and he has trouble keeping his weight up at over 4500 calories a day.

[determined4000]

42?

If you are going for PR's D, do the weights before the biking! You need to set yourself up with some aero bars! Can probably find some for pretty cheap.

Watch your intake if you get heavy into biking though, it's INCREDIBLE how many calories it can burn. I know a guy who bikes to work and counts calories, he's in his 40's, he's 170 pounds, around 5'8, and he has trouble keeping his weight up at over 4500 calories a day.

Another West Coaster. No higher than 42. Getting the feeling no one is going to be close unless you are from the area.

As for the calories, I know (mentally). I ran XC competitively up until a few years ago--> up to 10miles a day training, so the biking is a lot less. One of my closer friends still runs D1 distance. He is 5'5" and puts down 4-5k a day.

[get_hype]

within 50 miles? it's gotta be like 500+. srs. they are like starbucks up there.

[Bnizzle163]

Some awesome looking dishes in here. You are quite the creative bulker!

[determined4000]

within 50 miles? it's gotta be like 500+. srs. they are like starbucks up there.
getting closer

Some awesome looking dishes in here. You are quite the creative bulker!
thanks
Doing my best to debunk the "clean food is boring" theory

[PBateman2]

Higher
clearly you are not from the Northeast
Any1 else have a guess?

50 locations? Is there like one on every block?

West coast its all about Krispy Kreme..lol.

[goldmank]

hey D, what was the ingredients of the sludge you posted above? and macros please

thanks!

[determined4000]

50 locations?

some1 already guessed 500
And its MORE

[PBateman2]

some1 already guessed 500
and its more

what..more than 500?? Lmao. 750.

[determined4000]

what..more than 500?? Lmao. 750.

Higher. People really love their coffee.

[PBateman2]

Higher. People really love their coffee.

Coffee? Thought the main theme with them was donuts. I say 1000.

[determined4000]

Coffee? Thought the main theme with them was donuts. I say 1000.

Almost there.
1151
And no, there big $ comes from coffee. People get them on the way to work, at lunch, during the day, coming home from work. Caffeine is a drug. We in the Northeast are addicted. LOL. I worked for a construction company in the yard as a laborer for a few summers in HS. One of my jobs was to empty all the waste baskets in the office each morning. There were a dozen + offices and each would have 2-4 empties every day. Plus all the laborers in the yard would get the 24oz iced coffees. I am not a huge coffee drinker but always make my own. Not worth 2-3$ a cup, nevermind 3 a day.

[PBateman2]

Almost there.
1151
And no, there big $ comes from coffee. People get them on the way to work, at lunch, during the day, coming home from work. Caffeine is a drug. We in the Northeast are addicted. LOL. I worked for a construction company in the yard as a laborer for a few summers in HS. One of my jobs was to empty all the waste baskets in the office each morning. There were a dozen + offices and each would have 2-4 empties every day. Plus all the laborers in the yard would get the 24oz iced coffees. I am not a huge coffee drinker but always make my own. Not worth 2-3$ a cup, nevermind 3 a day.

OMG..LOL. Thats one of the craziest stats I have ever heard - 1151 Dunkin Donuts within ONLY a 50 mile radius of Boston. Nuts!

[GlobalConflict]

OMG..LOL. Thats one of the craziest stats I have ever heard - 1151 Dunkin Donuts within ONLY a 50 mile radius of Boston. Nuts!

i wish there were Krispy Kremes in my area... always getting free coupons for a doughnut (even though they cost like .30 a piece)

[determined4000]

Eats

TVP Oatmeal
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture923.jpg

Casserole (no didn't eat the whole things, lol)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/Chickenduckspierogiesbroccolislaw00.jpg

Tuna/ Cauliflower Mash
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/Picture837.jpg

Cinnamon Bowl of Deliciousness (same thing I did with the pumpkin one a few days ago)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture897.jpg

Macros:
2335
209g protein
91g at
170g carbs

Workout:Chest, tris, lats
Quote of the Day
"I'm all hyped up on Mountain Dew"
Had coffee pre and took a MT.Dew/Green Tea mix with me to the gym for an added caffeine boost.

3 x bench
4 x incline
3 x bench rows
4 x tricep pushdowns
3 x weighted dips
4 x lats

Felt exhausted afterwards (in a good way). Taking the GRE Exam tomorrow. Supposed to be at least 4 hours. Not sure if I will go to the gym tomorrow or not. May feel good to come home and relax, or I may want to blow off some steam and get the blood flowing after 4+ hours of testing.

[get_hype]

Felt exhausted afterwards (in a good way). Taking the GRE Exam tomorrow. Supposed to be at least 4 hours. Not sure if I will go to the gym tomorrow or not. May feel good to come home and relax, or I may want to blow off some steam and get the blood flowing after 4+ hours of testing.

Good luck on the GRE. I took it last year and was pleasantly surprised at how I did. So long as you've been practicing/studying, you'll be good to go.

[PBateman2]

i wish there were Krispy Kremes in my area... always getting free coupons for a doughnut (even though they cost like .30 a piece)

Its good stuff! Donuts kind of small but no complaints. There's one across the street from where I live but havent had it in what seems like ages.

[PBateman2]

Macros:
2335
209g protein
91g at
170g carbs

Workout:Chest, tris, lats
Quote of the Day
"I'm all hyped up on Mountain Dew"
Had coffee pre and took a MT.Dew/Green Tea mix with me to the gym for an added caffeine boost.

3 x bench
4 x incline
3 x bench rows
4 x tricep pushdowns
3 x weighted dips
4 x lats

Felt exhausted afterwards (in a good way). Taking the GRE Exam tomorrow. Supposed to be at least 4 hours. Not sure if I will go to the gym tomorrow or not. May feel good to come home and relax, or I may want to blow off some steam and get the blood flowing after 4+ hours of testing.

Nice workout. How are you liking the weighted dips?

Good luck on the GRE! You'll nail it.

[GlobalConflict]

Its good stuff! Donuts kind of small but no complaints. There's one across the street from where I live but havent had it in what seems like ages.

ya i use to eat it all the time, and use to see them at the store, i think i actually went to their factory for a school field trip when i was in like elementary school... but i cant remember. Cinnamon glazed ooo god.

Whats in your tvp oats and the casserole... it looks out of this world

[AutoPilotFrankV]

Ohhh what part of the northeast are ya from im a must for dunkin in the morning and in the afternoon their always packed!!! suckers like me are what make them rich! Determined if you have time could you PM me I just had some questions and you commented on my post the other day about lunch ideas and i think we have had a similiar situation...

[PJR23]

We have no Dunkin or Krsispy Kreme(anymore) All we have is a place called Shipleys( crap) and Daylight Donuts ( rip off of shiplleys...crap) So i'm jealous of pretty much everyone

[determined4000]

Good luck on the GRE. I took it last year and was pleasantly surprised at how I did. So long as you've been practicing/studying, you'll be good to go.

thanks


Nice workout. How are you liking the weighted dips?

Good luck on the GRE! You'll nail it.

makes me feel beastly-lol

thanks, at least the Math I hope




Whats in your tvp oats
and the casserole... it looks out of this world

um...tvp
the casserole-there is some chicken and spaghetti squash burried somewhere under the cheese


Determined if you have time could you PM me I just had some questions and you commented on my post the other day about lunch ideas


Shoot me a PM with any questions, anytime.

[recovering]

Good luck on the GRE! Sitting in front of a computer screen without being able to move for 4 hours was the most brutal part of it all for me. You sound like me - all I really cared about was the math portion. I actually ended up enjoying my writing prompt, haha. Get some good sleep tonight!

[determined4000]

all I really cared about was the math portion. I actually ended up enjoying my writing prompt, haha. Get some good sleep tonight!

well I know that since I am going for Econ, Finance or Financial Economics that they really care more about the Math score (as far as admissions)
I don't really doubt my ability (I had an 800 on the SAT) but sometimes test-taking anxiety gets the best of me. Honestly, I wish the test were right now so I wouldnt have to keep thinking about it.

[determined4000]

Just found out there is a section that doesn't count that I have to do anyways...and I won't know that it is the section that won't count...Maddening!

[recovering]

well I know that since I am going for Econ, Finance or Financial Economics that they really care more about the Math score (as far as admissions)
I don't really doubt my ability (I had an 800 on the SAT) but sometimes test-taking anxiety gets the best of me. Honestly, I wish the test were right now so I wouldnt have to keep thinking about it.

I studied econ too :) So I was in the same boat.


Just found out there is a section that doesn't count that I have to do anyways...and I won't know that it is the section that won't count...Maddening!

Yep, they have that on the SAT too. It's for them to test out new questions before they put them on the actual test.

[jakedasn4ke]

you been gaining any weight lately bro?

[xcitex]

dont think i dont keep up wit your log bro i still come and keep an eye out!
awesome work so far, your doing it man! :D keep it bro!




http://i32.tinypic.com/28rjdli.gif<<< i dont know bro thought i post pic.... funny, pic is funny lol

[Theenforcer1]

GRE wasn't that bad. I had to take it to be a Math TA.

[DirtyRobot]

Do what I did and just be like, "eh, I'm too lazy to take the GRE" and then only apply to schools in Canada.

No regrets. :cool:

[TBU720]

This thread is sweet. I struggled with anorexia for the past 4 years of my life. It was the first time I was living on my own so I developed some really strange issues with only buying the bare minimum of food to get by, and I still always felt like I was eating too much.

But I'm getting over it now and starting a bulk of my own. A lot of your recipies have given me great ideas. Since you clearly love peanut butter a lot, I'll share a recipie with you:
2 cups peanut butter
2 scoops whey (vanilla is the best imo for this)
1/4 cup molasses
2 TBS flax seeds

Mix it up, then form them into little balls and stash them in the freezer. Yum

[determined4000]

dont think i dont keep up wit your log bro i still come and keep an eye out!
awesome work so far, your doing it man! :D keep it bro!
i dont know bro thought i post pic.... funny, pic is funny lol

Funny movie too. Don't be shy.


Do what I did and just be like, "eh, I'm too lazy to take the GRE" and then only apply to schools in Canada.

No regrets. :cool:

It wasn't too bad, but glad its over. (exhale)


This thread is sweet. I struggled with anorexia for the past 4 years of my life. It was the first time I was living on my own so I developed some really strange issues with only buying the bare minimum of food to get by, and I still always felt like I was eating too much.

But I'm getting over it now and starting a bulk of my own. A lot of your recipies have given me great ideas. Since you clearly love peanut butter a lot, I'll share a recipie with you:
2 cups peanut butter
2 scoops whey (vanilla is the best imo for this)
1/4 cup molasses
2 TBS flax seeds

Mix it up, then form them into little balls and stash them in the freezer. Yum

thanks for the idea. Got a name for them?

[determined4000]

Eats

Went to the Parents for dinner after the GRE and did some grilling (no pics).

Came home late to finish off the night with...

french toast chocolate sludge sandwiches topped with vanilla whey/splenda
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/frenchtoastnutella.jpg

Macros:Not really sure becuase most of the eats were at my parents

Workout: 1 x 45 minute Opinion Essay
1 x 30 min Analytical Essay
1 x 30 Minute Quantitative Section
1 x 30 Minute Verbal Section
1 x 30 Min. Fake Quantitative Section
1 x pounding my head into the table when I realize I maybe a stupid mistake and am not allowed to go back to a previous quesiton.

I really wanted a perfect 800 on the Math. Came up a bit short (770). Still should be good enough to get into some good Econ, Finance, Financial Economics or Econometrics PhD programs. Might take them again if my professors/advisors think I should shoot for the 800 for an Ivy school. However, my scores are way above Univ. of Hawaii's standards and I'm thinking it would be cool to have to live there for 5years :)

Again, Thanks for all the support everyone. Back to the regular schedule today.

[PBateman2]

Sounds like you did well on the GRE! Congrats, man.

My cousin goes to Yale and loves it. Studying medicine. Never hurts to have Ivy schools on that CV/resume either. My dream was always to go to Harvard for grad school but I got shot down real quick..lol.

Hawaii would be sick!

[determined4000]

Sounds like you did well on the GRE! Congrats, man.

My cousin goes to Yale and loves it. Studying medicine. Never hurts to have Ivy schools on that CV/resume either. My dream was always to go to Harvard for grad school but I got shot down real quick..lol.

Hawaii would be sick!

My dream is UPENN because of Wharton (#1 biz school). I got wait-listed undergrad and their graduate programs are small -->more selective.
The Hawaii thing is a running joke turned serious option. I always joked with my family that I would move to Hawaii for the weather (hate New England fall and winters). 80s all year round. No insects, bad humidity, earthquakes that you may find south or west. Their program doesnt compare to some of my other options but it is my #1 choice for safe schools. So if my dreams of a top-ranked grad school are crushed, I still will have a fall-back option I can be happy with.

[GlobalConflict]

Wow... whats in that sludge homieeee, looks so bomb.

My friend goes to the u of hawaii, i think its that one or kaui, whatever the one with the huge bio major is the one he goes to.

Fairly expensive though, and youll be stuck on islands, but some people just dont mind.

[determined4000]

Forgive me, for I have sinned.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/personal/Picture994.jpg?t=1274628213

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/personal/Picture995.jpg?t=1274628228

Ok so I have added to my stock...BUT IT WASNT MY FAULT!
My Mom picked up a box of bars and a bag of whey last time she was at Sams because she knew I would be visiting. Don't normally eat powerbars, but 24= over 5500 calories for free.

On another note, to any followers who have taken the GRE, did you take it more than once? If so, did you do better the 2nd time?

[TBU720]

thanks for the idea. Got a name for them?

I forget where I first saw the recipie, but I believe it was called "Peanut Butter Muscle Bombs". I thought the name was silly so when I wrote it down I just called em peanut butter balls :-p

[recovering]

On another note, to any followers who have taken the GRE, did you take it more than once? If so, did you do better the 2nd time?

First off, congrats on doing so well! I actually was in a very similar situation. I also was applying to econ phd programs and fell just short of that 800 mark the 1st time around. My advisor said that I really was fine with my score, but I decided to give it one more shot. The second time around I was so much less nervous (I knew I had done fine on the first time and I was more familiar with taking the whole test on the computer) and I got the score I wanted. Not sure if hitting the 800 mark really makes a difference, but I'm glad I took it again...

That french toast from the other day looks great too, btw!

[determined4000]

Eats

I must say this is awesome
Kashi cereal, Cake batter whey and Peanut Flour
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture985.jpg?t=1274635408

Baked Chicken and Steamed Spinach
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture982.jpg?t=1274635473

Oats, flax meal, egg, cottage cheese, cocoa powder in the microwave
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture988.jpg?t=1274635539

Macros:
2338 calories
210g protein
82g fat
190g carbs


Workout: Shoulder, bis
4 x shoulder press
4 x curls
3 x shrugs
4 x weighted pullups
3 x military press
3 x rows

Felt like I had a lot of energy after the complete (physical) day off yesterday. With 8hour work days + 45-1hr commute going and coming home, I am definitely going to be having less time. May cut back calories a tad if I cut out some cardio, and also may not have as many pics. We'll see how it goes.

Quote of the Day
"Somebody should tell us, right at the start of our lives, that we are dying. Then we might live life to the limit, every minute of every day. Do it! I say. Whatever you want to do, do it now!"
Michael Landon (1936 - 1991)

[PJR23]

Eats

I must say this is awesome
Kashi cereal, Cake batter whey and Peanut Flourhttp://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture985.jpg?t=1274635408[/img]

Baked Chicken and Steamed Spinach
]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture982.jpg?t=1274635473[/img]

Oats, flax meal, egg, cottage cheese, cocoa powder in the microwavehttp://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture988.jpg?t=1274635539[/img]

Macros:
2338 calories
210g protein
82g fat
190g carbs


Workout: Shoulder, bis
4 x shoulder press
4 x curls
3 x shrugs
4 x weighted pullups
3 x military press
3 x rows

Felt like I had a lot of energy after the complete (physical) day off yesterday. With 8hour work days + 45-1hr commute going and coming home, I am definitely going to be having less time. May cut back calories a tad if I cut out some cardio, and also may not have as many pics. We'll see how it goes.

Quote of the Day
"Somebody should tell us, right at the start of our lives, that we are dying. Then we might live life to the limit, every minute of every day. Do it! I say. Whatever you want to do, do it now!"
Michael Landon (1936 - 1991)

Keep up the great work D

[MJFan1]

How much cardio do you do?

[determined4000]

How much cardio do you do?

I like to switch it up. Sometimes I run. Recently I have gotten more into biking. I used to run XC competitively but now I just run for fun. Other days I may not do much of either if I have plans to play basketball, golf, etc. There is nothing really set in stone. Whatever I feel like doing on a given day. This is a shift away from the past where I would mandate myself to do X amount of cardio for every Y amount of calories eaten. I finally realized that having such strict guidelines for myself was doing more harm than good and hindering progress. I just decided I would do what I felt like (I like being active but just enjoy it more when it doesn't feel like I NEED to do a certain thing/amount).

[determined4000]

First off, congrats on doing so well! I actually was in a very similar situation. I also was applying to econ phd programs and fell just short of that 800 mark the 1st time around. My advisor said that I really was fine with my score, but I decided to give it one more shot. The second time around I was so much less nervous (I knew I had done fine on the first time and I was more familiar with taking the whole test on the computer) and I got the score I wanted. Not sure if hitting the 800 mark really makes a difference, but I'm glad I took it again...

That french toast from the other day looks great too, btw!

Also, how many schools did you (or anyone else) apply to? I was thinking 2-3safe, 2-3 I think I can get in, 2-3 reach.

[Theenforcer1]

I took the GRE once. Applied to one grad school. I knew what I wanted and I took my one shot.

[accub]

dude, i have just read your whole thread in the last like hour (instead of studying). just wanted to say keep up the good work, its great seeing ur calorie intake go up over the course of the thread, keep it going!

[recovering]

Also, how many schools did you (or anyone else) apply to? I was thinking 2-3safe, 2-3 I think I can get in, 2-3 reach.

I didn't apply to too many because it gets quite pricey and I just kept my fingers crossed! I figured if nothing good happened, I would work for a year and try again. The programs are really tiny, so the more you have interest in, the more you should apply to. Another thing to consider is that some safety schools don't offer a full ride. I don't know if that matters for you or not. Finally, don't just look at the ranking of the school. Really take a look at the projects the current doctoral students are working on to see if that school is a good fit for you. Looking back, this is something I would have done more of. Good luck!!!

[determined4000]

Sunday's Eats

4 layers Whey cakes
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture973.jpg?t=1274743563

spaghetti squash with canned tomatoes
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/spaghetti.jpg?t=1274743687

oatmeal w/ PB
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/blog-0842.jpg?t=1274743730

Lots of other stuff i didnt take pics of

Macros:
2275
206g protein
84g fat
173.75g carbs

Workout: chest, tris
3 x bench
3 x incline
3 x incline (higher degree)
5 x skull crushers
3 x bench rows
3 x weighted dips (to failure)

Liked finishing the workout off with the high rep sets to failure and heavier/fewer rep exercises first. Tomorrow will be abbreviated cardio and perhaps workout with it being my first day of work.
Thanks to all for the advice on grad school.

Quote of the day:
All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.
Walt Disney
Thought of the day:
We always have goals in out minds that we deem important. But actually sitting down and putting pen to paper, makes you realize how strong these desires are and helps strengthen your commitment to them. Write yours own today.

[determined4000]

Eats

PWO Kashi and Whey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture979.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN040.jpg


http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN041.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN215.jpg

CC ICe Cream
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/Strawberry_Ice_Cream_Bowl_430.jpg

Chicken, veggies, PB and pancakes

Workout: Shoulders, back
3 x shrugs
3 x dead lifts
3 x military press
3 x bent over rows
3 x bench rows
3 x front grip pullups (to failure)

Abbreviated cardio, 18 sets instead of 21 and squeezed my food in a 5hour window.
Probably what I will be doing Mon-Thursday this summer. Was a little worried about hitting the gym so much later but energy was fine. Ice Cream hit the spot.

[Halfnelson]

looks like you're eating 2250-2400 cals per day. hope that's enough for a bulk but sh!t i'd be dying! especially if i did cardio! so how goes the weight progression? is it on the up?

[On Fire]

Good question, how is the weight coming along D?

Good lookin' eats. Gotta love that CC ice cream. I'm thinking when I start cracking open all the random 2 pounders of econowhey I bought I'll start making it more often again. Bought some fun flavors like strawberry, raspberry, mango pineapple, cookies n cream, mochaccino and lemonade.

Unfortunately my "fun new" proteinz will all have to wait a while. I've got an older tub of ON 100% casein that I mixed with MGN Ice Cream sandwich that I've gotta burn through next, and a tub of ON's Pro Complex that I bought about a year ago that expires mid 2011 I'd like to get through as well. Not that I mind, both of them taste good and have great profiles, I just prefer the little 2 pounders for variety lately ;)

[determined4000]

Eats:
Peanut Butter Microwave Brownie
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture992.jpg

Chicken Cheese and Broccoli Casserole
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/PICT4732.jpg

Grapes
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/MEN171.jpg

No pic: pancakes, CC, PB

Macros:
2310
209p
87f
172.75c

For the 2300 calorie question...remember I am 5'2"
Someone with an avg. BMI at my height has a BMR of 1350-1400 (w/o exercise). FOr my size this is actually a fairly sizeable intake (because I am active, although cardio is being cut down to to busy-ness).

Coffee PreWO
Workout: Chest, bis
3 x bench
2 x incline
2 x elevated incline
3 x curls
3 x weighted pullups
3 x flies
2 sets leg lifts to failure

Felt loads of energy again. PR with my elevated incline. Love finishing workouts with a few sets to failure.

[robbie_vlad]

Probably a dumb question, but I'm a newbie so bear with me. How do you guys manage to change up what you eat from day to day so radically and still hit your macros? Calories would be easy for me, but I don't know how to do the macros so good as you guys. Eats look good, that's why I ask.

[On Fire]

Probably a dumb question, but I'm a newbie so bear with me. How do you guys manage to change up what you eat from day to day so radically and still hit your macros? Calories would be easy for me, but I don't know how to do the macros so good as you guys. Eats look good, that's why I ask.

I ballpark my macros and worry more about my total calories. I know that Andrew writes out everything he eats so that it all adds up, and I suspect D4k spreadsheets his.

[determined4000]

Probably a dumb question, but I'm a newbie so bear with me. How do you guys manage to change up what you eat from day to day so radically and still hit your macros? Calories would be easy for me, but I don't know how to do the macros so good as you guys. Eats look good, that's why I ask.


I suspect D4k spreadsheets his.
Excel is a beautiful device
I have all the foods I eat inserted in one sheet and another sheet for my daily intake (which pulls values from the first sheet), a third sheet where I copy and paste my daily intake into a log, and a fourth sheet to log my workout.

But Its really not that hard, if you think in terms of servings
4 oz chicken=1 scoop whey = 1 can tuna
1/3c oats=1 slice bread=4oz potato=1/2c rice
etc. etc.
Just replace one item with another (scaled however you eat them).

[FunkymonkAW]

Keep it up dude, I like where this thread is going.


Probably a dumb question, but I'm a newbie so bear with me. How do you guys manage to change up what you eat from day to day so radically and still hit your macros? Calories would be easy for me, but I don't know how to do the macros so good as you guys. Eats look good, that's why I ask.

I have a list of foods I typically eat, and plan tomorrow's meals the day before on Excel using trial and error until I've come within an acceptable range of my macros. Things like cereal, olive oil, and chicken/protein powder/tuna make lagging macros easy to bring up to where I'd like them to be if I simply can't make anything else fit.

[On Fire]

Good question, how is the weight coming along D?

Good lookin' eats. Gotta love that CC ice cream. I'm thinking when I start cracking open all the random 2 pounders of econowhey I bought I'll start making it more often again. Bought some fun flavors like strawberry, raspberry, mango pineapple, cookies n cream, mochaccino and lemonade.

Unfortunately my "fun new" proteinz will all have to wait a while. I've got an older tub of ON 100% casein that I mixed with MGN Ice Cream sandwich that I've gotta burn through next, and a tub of ON's Pro Complex that I bought about a year ago that expires mid 2011 I'd like to get through as well. Not that I mind, both of them taste good and have great profiles, I just prefer the little 2 pounders for variety lately ;)

Quoting myself for answers goddammit! lol ;)

[determined4000]

Quoting myself for answers goddammit! lol ;)

post 442 and 453

[recovering]

You love your broccoli :D Looks good!

Since it has been almost a month since you said you were just going to go by "feel" instead of weighing, do you think it might be wise to just check? If you feel like seeing the number might be a negative thing for you, you might even do a blind weight check with a doctor or something. I think it may be a good idea for you. I've gone through periods without the scale and lost without being aware of it. Just my thoughts :)

Glad the energy was great today!

[RyouBakua]

how many hours a day do you spend at the gym?

[determined4000]

how many hours a day do you spend at the gym?
right now
1

[jakedasn4ke]

Quoting myself for answers goddammit! lol ;)

D4k never answers any questions regarding weight gain/loss :(

[determined4000]

D4k never answers any questions regarding weight gain/loss :(

then obviously you didnt look at my post
I said I was gaining .5/lb steady at this intake but felt freer not obsessively checking the scale
That is also why I am not calculating my cardio
I see results in the mirror and in the gym and enjoy life more than doing everything dictated by and obsessing over #s. It is better for me mentally-->better physical progress.
Hows you weight gain? What's your intake currently?

[jakedasn4ke]

then obviously you didnt look at my post
I said I was gaining .5/lb steady at this intake but felt freer not obsessively checking the scale
That is also why I am not calculating my cardio
I see results in the mirror and in the gym and enjoy life more than doing everything dictated by and obsessing over #s. It is better for me mentally-->better physical progress.
Hows you weight gain? What's your intake currently?

o sorry about that, must have missed the post.
Im glad to see you found your grove and gettin that .5 lbs a week. Great job.
My weight gain is going good. About 4lbs in 40 days. I have been at 2600 for about 10 days now. May have to start increasing again soon.
I started biking last week and really enjoy it so not sure how much I will need to up the cals.

[determined4000]

o sorry about that, must have missed the post.
Im glad to see you found your grove and gettin that .5 lbs a week. Great job.
My weight gain is going good. About 4lbs in 40 days. I have been at 2600 for about 10 days now. May have to start increasing again soon.
I started biking last week and really enjoy it so not sure how much I will need to up the cals.

You are 5'9" and JUST started eating ONLY 2600. I hope you aren't doing any cardio!
I mean, I am over 1/2 foot shorter and eat 2300-2350. Over a Half foot shorter.



















Annoying isnt it?
Good work. Keep it up.

[jakedasn4ke]

You are 5'9" and JUST started eating ONLY 2600. I hope you aren't doing any cardio!
I mean, I am over 1/2 foot shorter and eat 2300-2350. Over a Half foot shorter.



Annoying isnt it?
Good work. Keep it up.

LMAO. thanks. Ya that sh*t does get so annoying. Everyones body is different and a lot of people fail to realize that. I will only give my two sense if the person is actually losing weight instead of gaining(if their goal is to gain) or if they complain about not being able to eat enough cals..

[determined4000]

Eats
A couple Egg, cheese, salsa plates
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/Picture924.jpg

A few hunks of banana bread with PB
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/PBtr/banana_bread21.jpg

CC Ice CCream
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/Icecream1.jpg

Pancakes, 1lb frozen spinach w/ cheese
Kashi

Workout: Shoulders, back, abs
4 x overhead press (PR)
3 x dead lifts
5 x upright rows
4 x military press (PR)
planks, leg extensions, crunches

Another abbreviated workout but really pumped. PR'd with my overhead and military press and it almost felt too easy. Only had 3 dead lifts, and 16 total sets, but I still feel stronger. Next will be chest, tri and short leg workout tomorrow.

Work is decent :). Commute is not :(. Mapquest has it pegged as 45minutes but it is taking 1:20 with traffic in the AM. I fly for 40 minutes and the last couple of miles is a parking lot. Oh, well, no way around it. Money is ok and the experience will be good.

[Emma-Leigh]

glad you like the kashi combo's D! :)

And VERY pleased to see all the new foods in here of late. :cool:

[PBateman2]

TWO PRs!!! Progress. Good work, D. Impressive. The fact that it felt "easy" to you is another great sign. Could be ready to ride a nice wave here.

I like the attitude about gauging progress visually and by what's going in the gym as opposed to what a number reads. At the end of the day, thats all that really matters. How you see and view yourself.

Keep training hard, man.

[determined4000]

glad you like the kashi combo's D! :)

And VERY pleased to see all the new foods in here of late. :cool:

thanks. I bought a bunch of boxes when it was on sale and have whipped right through it.
I like the peanut flour too. Almond flour not as much. But I never liked AB as much as PB, despite how everyone else raves about it.
I love mixing things with different concoctions all the time and kashi works well that way.
But I am on my last box! Will have to hit up the store for some. Will search for more new things too.

[determined4000]

TWO PRs!!! Progress. Good work, D. Impressive. The fact that it felt "easy" to you is another great sign. Could be ready to ride a nice wave here.

I like the attitude about gauging progress visually and by what's going in the gym as opposed to what a number reads. At the end of the day, thats all that really matters. How you see and view yourself.

Keep training hard, man.

Thanks. You and Emma have both been the most instrumental in my progress. Emma getting me o the right track, educating me and challenging me. And you helping with some of my work in the gym, keeping me motivating and setting goals. And can't thank you both enough.

[PBateman2]

Thanks. You and Emma have both been the most instrumental in my progress. Emma getting me o the right track, educating me and challenging me. And you helping with some of my work in the gym, keeping me motivating and setting goals. And can't thank you both enough.

No prob. Be consistent and train hard as you are doing. It's inevitable. You will WIN in the end.

[Emma-Leigh]

Thanks. You and Emma have both been the most instrumental in my progress. Emma getting me o the right track, educating me and challenging me. And you helping with some of my work in the gym, keeping me motivating and setting goals. And can't thank you both enough.
:) << I live to annoy. :p Glad to see it worked. ;)

Anytime you get sick of PB powder - send it my way! I would love to try the stuff (and we can't get kashi over here either! :mad: << so feel free to float a few boxes over as well! :cool: ).

[determined4000]

I know I got some catching up to do but I've been busy.
I guess I will post Thursday and Friday today and the weekend tomorrow + shopping pics (I stocked up...again).

Thursday

1lb frozen spinach
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/veggies/Picture983.jpg

a few lbs of chicken before going in the oven (for the next couple days)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture953.jpg

Finished product (Remembered to take pic after eating some)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture965.jpg

Finished off my last remnants of Kashi (but headed to the store this weekend) and mixed with some cake batter whey, oats, and PB to make into bars.

Peanut Butter cookies Prebake (lots of PB, peanut flour, eggs)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/PBtr/peanut-butter-cookies-1.jpg

Friday
blended fruit, jello and chocolate whey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/Picture972.jpg

eggs over homemade toast
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/EggsOverOozy3CR.jpg

Apple chicken sausage and pineapple pizzas on pita
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/hawaiipita.jpg

More veggies and heated up the chicken from yesterday and PB cookies.

Workouts:
I did legs chest and tris on Thursday.
PR'd with Incline (pumped). Must have been having Sandstorm on repeat in my Ipod.
Friday I was already a little tired after a long week and could feel my chest still from Thursday. I decided to take it easier and hit some of the smaller muscle groups. Did some curls, weighted pullups, lats, and abs. Came home ate a big meal and took a nap (felt wiped). Looked forward to sleeping in Saturday.

[On Fire]

eWV3J0OWTMs

Even I'm a little pumped all of the sudden.

[jakedasn4ke]

whats the exact recipe on the cookies bro. i want some pb cookies!

[determined4000]

whats the exact recipe on the cookies bro. i want some pb cookies!

1/2c PB
1/2c Peanut flour
2 eggs or equivalent
water to desired thickness, sweetner if you need it

[SusieP]

Anything by Darude is awesome:D Yummy PB cookies!

[PBateman2]

EXCELLENT WORK! Another PR. Thats how you handle business.

Sandstorm goes without saying! That song is NEVER off my playlist:)

Keep training hard, D. Impressed.

[jakedasn4ke]

1/2c PB
1/2c Peanut flour
2 eggs or equivalent
water to desired thickness, sweetner if you need it

ty sir, will be making soon :)

[determined4000]

So As I said i hit up the store and, got a little carried away with some good deals
8CC
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1742.jpg?t=1275333928
4 20-packs of Wraps for 4.88 per
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1743.jpg?t=1275333933
13 dozen eggs for 1.00 per
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1744.jpg?t=1275333933
12lbs of frozen spinach for 1.20 per
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1745.jpg?t=1275333933
9lbs of FF slices for 2.00 per and 3 packs of VeggieSlices for 2.50 per
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1746.jpg?t=1275333933
4 boxes of Kashi for 3.00 per
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1747.jpg?t=1275333933
8.6lbs of chicken for 1.99/lb
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1748.jpg?t=1275333933


In all
8 lbs Cottage Cheese
80 wraps
156 eggs
12lbs spinach
12lbs of cheese
8.6lbs of chicken
4 boxes of kashi for a grand total of...
$114.89

Took another closeup of the package of chicken

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/IMG_1751.jpg?t=1275333933

because if you can buy Amica Farms chicken, you must. It is soaked in broth or something and is the moistest most delicious chicken you will ever taste in your life. I honestly try not to buy any other but can only get it near my hometown when I visit my parents. Would have bought more...but I only have one freezer. Don't need to worry too much about things going bad because the eggs are good thru July 9th, CC for a month, cheese a couple months, and I can freeze some of the wraps, cheese and all the spinach. All in all, I am stocked up well. Love getting deals.

[determined4000]

Sunday

Went to visit the parents and had a steak dinner. Porterhouse to be exact. My mom always has steaks when me and my bro go to visit.
No pics but they were juiiiiicccyyy.

finished off the night with

My microwave cinnamon bake (oats, p-cake mix, eggs, cinnamon, CC)

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture968.jpg?t=1275334933

whey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture959.jpg?t=1275334933

More of the PB cookies
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/peanut-butter-cookies.jpg?t=1275335032

Exact Macros: Unknown but I am guessing it was a high fat day given the steak and PB cookies, olive oil on the grilled zucchini with dinner (tasty as well).

Workout:
Carrying 60-70lbs of groceries from the parking lot of my apartment complex across the lawn and up a few flights of stairs to my apartment.
Back to gym Monday.
Sincere thanks to all the vets, past or present (if there happen to be any reading this thread).

[determined4000]

Monday

Eats:
ham wrap
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/IMG_1758.jpg?t=1275430746

Dos chicken breast mexican mash
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/MEN175.jpg?t=1275430811

CC ice cream over baked apples
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/P3232182.jpg?t=1275430867

Still working thru PB cookies
salad w/ dressing
kashi



Workout: chest, tris, abs
3 x bench
4 x incline
2 x decline
3 x bench rows
3x skull crushers
2 x weighted dips
leg lifts, planks, crunches to finish

Would elaborate more, but its been a log day. Gota get cooking.

[Scooter4]

Eats look good. It's nuts how real the cottage cheese ice cream looks compared to regular ice cream. Do you have the recipe for it by any chance?






:cool:

[Holyspokes]

baked apples are win

[determined4000]

June 1 (wow already June, love summertime)

chocolate powder, Peanut flour, oats, CC bowl (2x)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture988.jpg?t=1275519323

pizza omelets (2x)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/Picture866.jpg?t=1275519412

chicken and broccoli
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/MEN237.jpg?t=1275519445

Kashi (glad to be stocked up again, had a couple bowls), whey, PB

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture980.jpg?t=1275519511

Also had some of a powerbar, frozen spinach w/ EVOO and garlic

Macros:
2300
207g protein
80g fat
188g carbs

End up doubling up portion sizes and less variety with less prep cooking time but still enjoying the eats.

Workout: Shoulders, bis, 1/2legs
4 x shoulder press
4 x upright rows
4 x curls
4 x weighted pullups
5 x squats

Doing some more back (lats) tomorrow along with deadlifts (also using legs), so sorta doing a half leg workout today and half tomorrow. This allows me to get through my workout a little faster because my arms can rest a little while working legs and vice versa, so less rest time between sets.

If any sports fans out there who want to weigh in on Celts-LA. People here are far too baised. A month ago the C's were dead in the water and now people think they will walk over LA.
Wondering how people feel around the country (or if they even care)
I think it comes down to officiating and if Kobe can get to the line-->edge LA
or if the refs let them play physical -->edge C's
Hoping for a long series so I hvae more games to watch :)

[PBateman2]

Pizza Omlette? Nice! Never heard.

Smart revision to splitting up the legs.

Lakers. In six. Kobe gets his fifth ring. His will and drive supercedes all Celtic players put together! Guy is on a mission. Revenge factor is going to be huge.

The player to watch is Pau Gasol - IMO. He will want redemption and think he will do quite well in this series. I honestly believe he and Lamar Odom will be the difference. Andrew Bynum will be a non-factor but wont be a huge blow.

The most intriguing match up will be Ron Artest on Paul Pierce. That should be interesting.

[determined4000]

Pizza Omlette? Nice! Never heard.



http://www.mrbreakfast.com/superdisplay.asp?recipeid=334
supposed to serve 2 (lol)

[xcitex]

you're doing it right brah :D

[determined4000]

you're doing it right brah :D

Holy crap dude! That ain't you in the pic is it?
Waayy to much muscle to be you
I was going to ask you where u've bin but I think I know the answer...


THE GYM
Awesome progress. Keep it up.

[PBateman2]

http://www.mrbreakfast.com/superdisplay.asp?recipeid=334
supposed to serve 2 (lol)

LOL..thats a half serving.

[determined4000]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.

[beeeyandizzle]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.

damn dude sorry about your day man. i've had those days as well! except whenever the workout felt like crap, I would forced myself to finish it and force myself to eat. but in my experience it made me feel crappier lol so maybe what you did was for the best.

rest up! tomorrow's a brand new day, i'm sure you'll wake up feelin better. workout and eat w/ a vengeance!

[Theenforcer1]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.
Come on D, just have a couple bowls of cereal or something. Do not let anything trigger ya!

[determined4000]

Come on D, just have a couple bowls of cereal or something. Do not let anything trigger ya!

Note: my log is always a day old. So I can't exactly just eat a bowl of cereal to get my calories in for yesterday (the day has come and gone). I am getting back on the wagon today.

[xcitex]

Holy crap dude! That ain't you in the pic is it?
Waayy to much muscle to be you
I was going to ask you where u've bin but I think I know the answer...


THE GYM
Awesome progress. Keep it up.

Its me brah!! i've gained weight since I've started in Feb. with the bulk :D
Yeah i been in the gym but i been lurking your thread too! :D. I been lifting heavy and eating balanced meals. I've kept up with what i started in the beginning, and i like to say thanks once again because your knowledge and support really did help me progress! and not to mention you're doing a fantastic job right now so you keep it up too! There definitely is a big difference from when you started til now and its really awesome brah. :)

[Emma-Leigh]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.
Lesson one: Don't even ATTEMPT to workout if you don't sleep. Your body would do better to simply have the REST (use the time to have a nap instead). ;)

Lesson two: Know your triggers and FIGHT them. If being tired and worn down = trigger. When you are tired be PROACTIVE and go about getting your nutrition as a priority. Set your phone to alarm every 3 hrs and make it a routine for the day.... << it is about being ACTIVE in your choices.

Lesson three: Sometimes it is not about WHAT you do - but HOW you react.... (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=379665641#post379665641)... so use what ever you can to react better in the future, to make your decisions stronger (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=353566961&post353566961)....

Watch out for yourself, D.... Be better tomorrow....

[Scooter4]

D, things like that happen, it's life. I doubt you will have any problem getting back in the swing of things tomorrow (or whenever it might be considering you said you log a day late). You know you didn't eat enough due to what happened. Maybe put down 2700 calories the next day to make up for it. Throw yourself a little bit of a curve ball and see what happens.

The reason I say that is because I notice your macros are spot-on nearly every day. I think it would be cool if you could throw down some extra calories every once in a while. :)

[fithos]

http://hubpages.com/hub/Two-Sample-Bodybuilding-Diets

[PBateman2]

Life happens and some days are a struggle.

Those that get out of it quickly and move on end up winning in the end - ultimate goal. Dont get stuck in a rut.

What are you going to do? Good. I knew the answer too.

Kick ass.

[SupremeClientele]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.

Dont worry about this dude. This happens to every dedicated lifter im sure. I know that it happens to me at least once a week. Just use it as motivation to have a better workout/day of eats the next time

[robbie_vlad]

June 2nd
Bad day today
Fire alarm in my complex went off during the night. Got little sleep. Had to work late and the hit traffic coming home. Got home much later than usual and was wasted from getting so little sleep. I started my workout but was going half speed and felt like crap, so I just stopped. I came home and just dove straight into bed. Fell asleep for an hour or so. I had absolutely no appetite still and felt guilty for not really getting in my workout. Didn't eat nearly enough, nor did I feel like it. Things have been going so well, I really hope this doesn't set me back. I can't afford to have days like these, especially when I know how they can be triggering and cyclical.

EATS: No pics today. Wasn't in the mood to snap any, didn't make anything appetizing.
Workout: sucked

I must and will get back on the bandwagon. Must be accountable to myself.


**** sucks, I know, but just remember that BB isn't just a one day thing, it's a habit created over a period of time. Get back into the loop the next day and you'll be fine. I had a similar night last night (kind of opposite of you though). I had work from noon to 11PM after I had already done a 20 mile bike ride and only got to eat breakfast. I got home exhausted and ate a bit much (probably 200 over maintenance) for my cutting goals. I'm not too worried as today I'm feeling great and I know that it won't really hurt me in the long run. Best of luck man, get back with it!

[determined4000]

Thursday: June 3rd
Getting back on Track
Tastier eats

Buffalo Chicken
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Homemade_buffalo_wings.jpg?t=1275690945

Pancakes
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/MEN276.jpg?t=1275691009

kashi,cin bun whey, PB, more cinnamon
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture976.jpg?t=1275691046

Soft serve CC ice cream (cake batter)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/MEN095.jpg?t=1275691115

Frozen spinach, eggs + salsa wraps

Macros:
2350
210g protein
88g fat
181g carbs

Workout: Chest, tris, abs
3 x bench
4 x incline
2 x weighted dips
2 x tri extension
3 x bench rows
3 x skull crushers
planks, leg lifts, crunches

Surprised how well the workout went considering how bad I felt yesterday and how little I ate. Certainly felt like making some tasty foods got my appetite back and calories up. Tomorrow will be shoulders, and bis. Need to start building those bi's up for the girls , lol(even though I really prefer the shoulder portion of the workout more).
FEED the MUSCLE! (my new motto)

For the record 54 fouls called, 67free throws attempt and 10 FTA for Kobe--> Lakers win
So if my predictions hold true (officiating dictating the winner) I think the Lakers will take Game 2, and if this does happen, look for the refs to loosen it up and let them play so the series isn't a short one-->C's win 3 and 4.

PS- Thanks for all the words of wisdom and support after the other day.

[Emma-Leigh]

PS- Thanks for all the words of wisdom and support after the other day.
No thank you's....
Actions D, actions. ;)

[PJR23]

Great job jumping back in and not getting discouraged D. This is a big win. Congrats

[xcitex]

Hey D,

Don't worry about falling off the wagon for one day. It happens to everyone once in a while. As a matter of fact happened to me this week as well, i had finals, didn't sleep well, worked out and... boom weight feel on me lol (felt bad man). I Caught up on the eats and sleep and the next day and felt as if yesterday never happened. Point is: Tomorrow is always another day. :D

[Insight]

yeah dude, there you go. no need to get hung up on it. everyone has days where they eat like sh*t. some people eat too much, some people eat too little, some people eat too dirty, whatever. not the end of the world.

[determined4000]

Eats

turkey wraps (finished off with cheese, romaine, Frank's)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/IMG_1754.jpg?t=1275856238

chocolate PB Microwave bowl
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/Picture992.jpg?t=1275856314

cauliflower mash
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/veggies/MEN280.jpg?t=1275856356

cinnamon ginger chicken breast
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture896.jpg?t=1275856393

More chickenhttp://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/Picture887.jpg?t=1275856393

PB banana on wheat
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/PBtr/blogphotos-002.jpg?t=1275856472

cheesecake
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/DSC01898.jpg?t=1275856523

Workout on 4th: Shoulders, back, bis
4 x weighted pullups
4 x curls
4 x overhead press
4 x upright rows
4 x seated rows

WO on 5th: Bike ride (no lifting)

Was supposed to rain all weekend but I really ended up lucking out. Rained at night and was fairly nice during the day. Was hot but I don't mind. Felt good to get out on the bike which I don't think I had done since work started. Long days with work now vs school, but its nice having nothing to do on the weekends. Sunday the plan is to prep a bunch of food for this week so I don't have to do much when I get home from work. Also will watch Yanks and Celtics. Workout planned to be chest, tris and a short bike b4 maybe.

[PBateman2]

Nice. Didn't know you were doing the weighted pull ups. Good work and good to see.

Training/diet post today?

[FunkymonkAW]

....how're you gonna go and post that cheesecake with no recipe?

[determined4000]

....how're you gonna go and post that cheesecake with no recipe?

1lb FF Cream cheese
1lb FF Cottage cheese
1 package SF cheesecake Jello pudding
4 eggs
Blend it all together

Baked at 350ish for 50 or so minutes.

[Frooshy186]

Food is looking great, especially those wings from a few days ago - literally made my mouth water

[determined4000]

Eats

Spaghetti Squash casserole
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/RealtorsSpaghettiSquash.jpg?t=1275954979

BIG BOWL Kashi and whey
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture979.jpg?t=1275955023

Just went for the spoon
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture942.jpg?t=1275955073

Then ate through more pre-prepped chicken, veggies, cheesecake

Macros: 2290
208protein
85g fat
173g carbs

Workout: Chest, tris, abs
3 x bench
3 x incline
3 x decline
3 x weighted dips
3 x skull crushers
3 x tri ext
2 supersets of crunches to planks to leglifts to failure

Thought I was going to die after this. Veins were popping out of my midsection and sides an hour later.
112 Fouls in 96 minutes of the NBA Finals= ridiculous
The refs are trying to ruin a great matchup. Ticky Tack fouls. Glad to see it evened up, and hoping for a 7gamer. But Pierce needs to shutup about it not going back to LA. Please. Lakers are too good. he said the same thing when they were up 2-0 against the hapless Magic. Plus he was 2-11 for 10 points. I live in RI/MA but I can't stand him. Allen is a class act though so I am happy he was able to light it up. Some people in my office have tickets to games 3-5. Too bad I am the new guy.

[determined4000]

Food is looking great, especially those wings from a few days ago - literally made my mouth water

Thanks man.

Good food doesnt have to be hard to make or unhealthy.
For wing sauce I use a 1:1 ratio of Frank's and Promise (high in omega3) and then dash in some garlic and onion powder. Toss the chicken (you can use wings,legs, breasts) in a gallon ziploc with the sauce (I marinate overnight) and then toss them in the oven (I use disposable aluminum baking pans).

[determined4000]

turkey sandwich

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/turkey/Turkey_Breast.jpg?t=1276030565

veggie and cheese omelets
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/Picture870.jpg?t=1276030627

spaghetti squash
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/spaghetti.jpg?t=1276030702

pancakes
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/MEN098.jpg?t=1276030776

no pic: Cheesecake, PB

Macros:
2300
207g p
88g f
170g carbs

Workout: Back, bis, 1/2 leg
4 x deadlifts
4 x curls
3 x squats
4 x weighted pullups
4 x seated rows
2 x leg ext

Lakers vs C's tonight. Hate the 2-3-2 format though. O well. It will be a late night/early morning again. Haven't been sleeping well. Not sure why. Fortunately don't feel too worn down and can always try to catch up on sleep on the weekend (no plans as of yet).

[PBateman2]

Heavy workout today. Real work!

Good stat today posted by msd8683 in my journal:

"Since the 2-3-2 schedule for the Finals has been in place there have been 10 series in which game 3 started with each team at 1 win a piece. The winner of game 3 in the series went on to win the Finals all 10 times"

Will be intense tonight!

[determined4000]

Heavy workout today. Real work!

Good stat today posted by msd8683 in my journal:

"Since the 2-3-2 schedule for the Finals has been in place there have been 10 series in which game 3 started with each team at 1 win a piece. The winner of game 3 in the series went on to win the Finals all 10 times"

Will be intense tonight!

should be interesting. Odom has been MIA. Artest was 1-10 in Game 2 and Kobe was in foul trouble. On the other side Pierce and KG have done nada and Perk is this close to getting himself suspended. Fingers crossed for a 7 game series.

[goldmank]

Hey D mind posting the pancake recipe for me. I've asked before but I have no time on the weekdays and my I'm working weekends so I keep forgetting. But I gotta try em this weekend thanks.

and when you do weighted dips. do you use a machine or where you do you put the weights?

[determined4000]

Hey D mind posting the pancake recipe for me. I've asked before but I have no time on the weekdays and my I'm working weekends so I keep forgetting. But I gotta try em this weekend thanks.

and when you do weighted dips. do you use a machine or where you do you put the weights?

A lot of gyms have belts you can attach weights to

Pancakes made easy:
2 parts dry ingredients (baking mix, flour, whey, cocoa,)
1 part egg (whites or whole, 1.25c whites=1egg)
1+ part liquid (water or milk)
dash baking powder and flavoring (cinnamon, ginger, pumpkin spice, extracts, etc.)
So for every 1c dry ingredients, you want 1/2c egg and 1/2-3/4c liquid ingredients.

These pancakes didn't have any whey which is why they look like 100% pancakes. The higher the ratio of protein, the less pancakey it will taste

[JaySinX]

Just went through all the pages, packed full of recipes and goodness, also awesome job on your diet and its progression, def subbed

[determined4000]

Just went through all the pages, packed full of recipes and goodness, also awesome job on your diet and its progression, def subbed

Thanks
Nice progress yourself

(see people, if you have time and patience like Jay, you can make great progress (and find all the recipes you are always asking me to post again, lol))

[determined4000]

BBQ Chicken

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/Chicken/MEN235.jpg?t=1276123463

seasoned spinach
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/veggies/Picture983.jpg?t=1276123523

homemade pizza (sorry for glare) Mmmmmm cheese
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meals/onion-ham-paprika-cheese-surprise.jpg?t=1276123631

Dessert (fruit jello mold with casein)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/CCh/Picture797.jpg?t=1276123564

Workout: Back, traps, legs
4 x dead lifts
4 x seated rows
4 x lat pulldowns
4 x lat back pulldown
3 x squats
2 x leg ext.

C's lose. Allen is as cold as he was hot in Game 2. No surprise. Shooters are streaky.
Strasburg 14Ks and only 4 base runners allowed. Kid will be a stud baring injury (see Mark Prior, Rich Harden).
Work is going well but traffic still sucks. Luckily I have been busy the last few days so time at work has gone by. Also Downloading a lot of podcasts to listen to during my commute.
It is nice to be able to come home and relax (no hw finally).
Eats were tasty. Trying to do a few different things and was wodering if anyone had ideas for veggies. I eat a lot of spinach and broccoli. Looking for other ideas or twists if any1 has any.

[goldmank]

hey D, how big are those chicken breats and how long did it take to cook em? I just made mine and they were about 3oz so I eat about 2. Also, did you make the dough for the pizza? last time I made a pizza I bought whole wheat flat bread, low fat cheese, chicken breast, mushroom and spinach.

[xlb57]

Workout: Back, traps, legs
4 x dead lifts
4 x seated rows
4 x lat pulldowns
4 x lat back pulldown
3 x squats
2 x leg ext.

C's lose. Allen is as cold as he was hot in Game 2. No surprise. Shooters are streaky.
Strasburg 14Ks and only 4 base runners allowed. Kid will be a stud baring injury (see Mark Prior, Rich Harden).
Work is going well but traffic still sucks. Luckily I have been busy the last few days so time at work has gone by. Also Downloading a lot of podcasts to listen to during my commute.
It is nice to be able to come home and relax (no hw finally).
Eats were tasty. Trying to do a few different things and was wodering if anyone had ideas for veggies. I eat a lot of spinach and broccoli. Looking for other ideas or twists if any1 has any.

Dang man, back and legs in the same day. I give you credit, that has got to be a taxing workout!

Are you an asparagus fan at all? From time to time I enjoy grilling up some bacon wrapped asparagus spears (either pork or turkey) on the grill. Do you like peppers? You can always get creative with stuffing red or green peppers with ground beef, cheese, etc. Brussel sprouts / cabbage? Just a few thoughts that popped in my mind. Eats are looking great!

[determined4000]

hey D, how big are those chicken breats and how long did it take to cook em? I just made mine and they were about 3oz so I eat about 2. Also, did you make the dough for the pizza? last time I made a pizza I bought whole wheat flat bread, low fat cheese, chicken breast, mushroom and spinach.

I generally cook the chicken 6-7 minutes probably on the foreman. I dont really time it at all, just watch it. But I would guess more than 5 but certainly less than ten. Depends on thick they are. 3oz seems rather small so i dont think it would take you long at all.

[determined4000]

Dang man, back and legs in the same day. I give you credit, that has got to be a taxing workout!

Are you an asparagus fan at all? From time to time I enjoy grilling up some bacon wrapped asparagus spears (either pork or turkey) on the grill. Do you like peppers? You can always get creative with stuffing red or green peppers with ground beef, cheese, etc. Brussel sprouts / cabbage? Just a few thoughts that popped in my mind. Eats are looking great!

good ideas, especially the peppers, which I have done before but not in awhile. I never had brussell sprouts though. Keep the ideas coming.

[ErickStevens]

If you can squat and deadlift in the same 48 hours, let alone the same workout - urnotdoinitrite.

[SusieP]

Pizza looks awesome!

[determined4000]

Omelet (cheese, broccoli, chicken)

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/meats/4446674396_7536c82a3b.jpg?t=1276203681

Kashi, whey, PB
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture985.jpg?t=1276203778

Cin Bun Bowl
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture946.jpg?t=1276203777

Finished off cheesecake as well
Macros: didnt count them today. Doing this every now and then so I don't eat so robotically. Easily met min's.


Workout: Biked

Not too much going on. Weather is rainy. C's LA game 4 for tonight.

[Lucky4143]

Hey! Ive been lurking in your thread for weeks, and your an inspiration for me-and someone i look up to here and it seems as if you are more then knowledgeable about nutrition and lifting...just thought id say that

AND

How does the kashi/whey/pb taste? What whey do you use, and how much pb? I love kashi just iwth milk...pb and chochlate whey sounds yummmmy

also how much eggs do you use in your omlets?

Thanks bro and keep up the GREAT work!

[determined4000]

How does the kashi/whey/pb taste? What whey do you use, and how much pb? I love kashi just iwth milk...pb and chochlate whey sounds yummmmy

also how much eggs do you use in your omlets?

Thanks bro and keep up the GREAT work!

I switch it up all the time. Chocolate and PB work great. But I also LOVE my cake batter MGN whey (that is what I used in this batch). As I said, how much I use for anything I make depends on what I need for the day, what I feel like eating, whatever I want to experiment with for the day. Sometimes I may add just a take a tbsp of whey, drizzle some water in it to make a syrup and pour it on. Other times I may make a full sludge with a scoop+ of whey, 2-3tbsp PB and make almost a bar out of the cereal.
For the omelets, sometimes I use 2 whole eggs. Sometimes 6. Sometimes I use 2 eggs and extra whites. Most times I use about 2 slices cheese per 3 eggs, and as many veggies as I can fit. Sometimes I will dice up meat (chicken, turkey, ham) and toss that in as well. I eat many of the same foods each day so I get my variety by switching up the ratios ad flavors I use.

Glad I can be an inspiration. Just keep your goals in mind to stay motivated, eyes ahead, no looking back, eat big, train hard, get strong.

[determined4000]

USA USA USA!
1-1 is a victory in my book. Weak Dempsey goal but you gota take it.
MVP = Tim Howard
He saved a few that easily could have been goals.

[Mr-Paradox]

USA USA USA!
1-1 is a victory in my book. Weak Dempsey goal but you gota take it.
MVP = Tim Howard
He saved a few that easily could have been goals.

Dissappointing to see the game ending in the draw seen as we had the better of it. Meh, we'll still qualify for the second round

[jordanair45]

This thread is epic. Subbed!

[determined4000]

This thread is epic. Subbed!

you were asking about recipes from me before, just sift through some of the pages and you will see me replying to others' inquiries.

[Gesou]

Hey, D, any updates?

[xcitex]

Strong bump to this log. :D

Update D!

[Tommy510]

hey, d, any updates?


strong bump to this log. :d

update d!

^^ x3

[EmperorRyker]

Hey determined, come on, give us an update. How many pounds have you gained in the past three months since bulking?

[determined4000]

Ok guys, sorry for not posting in awhile.
Right now I get up, ready for work, out the door a little after 6am. Get home, workout and its 6-7pm (long commutes). Depending on whatever else I may be doing, I don't have a lot of relaxation time.
Thus, I am doing most of my cooking in bulk on Sundays. I honestly, don't feel like taking more time to make things look nice, snap pics, upload pics, and post pics. Plus, cooking in bulk-->Nothing spectacular. Maybe I will do a weekly progress report with a couple pics per week until the fall?

[PBateman2]

I say do what you have to do. Weekly updates obviously better than nothing.

I say twice a week postings though:) Say like Wed and Sunday. That way you can update a couple training sessions/nutrition mid-week and then again at the end of the week. Accountability too.

Will take 20min of your time.

Just my two cents.

[addictR3]

World cup is driving me crazy.. cannot wait for the tour de france.. Nice log here D :)

[determined4000]

World cup is driving me crazy.. cannot wait for the tour de france.. Nice log here D :)

did u hear they are testing the bikes for motors? no joke
who you got as the favorite?
Who you for in the World Cup?
I have a bad feeling US will draw. Sucks it is on at 10am.

[RyouBakua]

Hey determined, come on, give us an update. How many pounds have you gained in the past three months since bulking?


Accountability


in for weight gain numbers

[determined4000]

in for weight gain numbers

post 442, 453, 623

[RyouBakua]

post 442, 453, 623

those 3 posts have no definite weight number so it doesnt answer our question

so hopefully youre gaining POUND upon POUND of muscle and keeping it a secret
(which would be epic to say the least)






i thought this thread was to help you get better by sharing your progress
but if you want to keep fighting the weight thing, no worries man, i wont ask anymore




just stay healthy ok

i had a friend who had anorexia. she would eat fine with us.
but barely anything else when by herself.



and cut out any cardio (biking, running, jogging)
if you really want to gain weight, you should spend more time lifting and eating.
constantly working out is just breaking yourself down further.
remember, you can only grow at rest.

[Primetime24]

hey man great stuff in here, def subbed!

[determined4000]

A couple studies and a blog posting about anorexia and cortisol. Cortisol secretion makes it more likely that you will store fat. Basically, if you are malnourished, over-trained or highly stressed-->secrete more cortisol.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TBX-4NK47DM-3&_user=10&_coverDate=06%2F30%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1383358276&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=7d0840624c998a2048e4e6e537d0f0ec


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2165347

http://ed-bites.blogspot.com/2009/02/cortisol-and-eating-disorders.html
So if you are thinking of starving yourself to get skinny, or running an extra mile, you might want to thin again. Body composition will benefit from more food and more rest.

[Scooter4]

A couple studies and a blog posting about anorexia and cortisol. Cortisol secretion makes it more likely that you will store fat. Basically, if you are malnourished, over-trained or highly stressed-->secrete more cortisol.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...e3db85c9a87f92

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2165347

http://ed-bites.blogspot.com/2009/02...disorders.html

So if you are thinking of starving yourself to get skinny, or running an extra mile, you might want to thin again. Body composition will benefit from more food and more rest.

2/3 of those links don't work.

[stuntriderrr]

2/3 of those links don't work.




didnt know he had an ed..:/

[determined4000]

2/3 of those links don't work.

fixed?

[Scooter4]

didnt know he had an ed..:/

I don't...?


fixed?

Nope. :/

[AlwaysTryin]

Great work D!!

Always impressed by your knowledge and contribution to the Nutrition section

[Tommy510]

fixed?

works for me
edit: for the first one, I see the summary, otherwise i have to pay for the full article; second one works, third don't

[Scooter4]

works for me
edit: for the first one, I see the summary, otherwise i have to pay for the full article; second one works, third don't

Ohhhh, my bad. My stupid self was clicking on the links in my quote so obviously they wouldn't work considering they were the old ones. Ha

[addictR3]

did u hear they are testing the bikes for motors? no joke
who you got as the favorite?
Who you for in the World Cup?
I have a bad feeling US will draw. Sucks it is on at 10am.

Hey D,

Sorry I didnt reply!

Fav - Cav from HTC for sprints
Overall that damn Contador will win it.. but I love lance :D

World cup (Aussies) but they are out. Watched Germany vs England last night, must say the Germans are playing good football.

[Midnight720]

Ok When I saw a pic of Broccoli w/ PB, I can try it one day. I can eat pb with banana. I got it from my ex-girlfriend eating like that.

What do you to make pancakes? I was thinking make it and eat like bread because I hear if I eat bread I will get fats on my abs.

[GlobalConflict]

i just thought about the term 'football'. I mean how did america arrive at the name football for a sport that has little ball and foot contact involved in it... especially when a sport already has the name 'football'.

i wonder why we had to replace the name and put it on that sport... hmm

[determined4000]

i just thought about the term 'football'. I mean how did america arrive at the name football for a sport that has little ball and foot contact involved in it... especially when a sport already has the name 'football'.

i wonder why we had to replace the name and put it on that sport... hmm

I believe it has to do with the fact that the original ball was 1 foot long.
Some recent eats thanks to forgottenpulse
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/bakes/BananaAppleBread.jpg?t=1277775576


Anyways, I figure while I am taking a break from logging I will keep the thread open for any questions people want to as. About general nutrition, EDs/ED recovery, workouts, recipes, etc. and miscellaneous conversation. I get PM'd a lot, so maybe opening this up in a forum would be more beneficial, so others can see the questions and responses.
If you have a private question, still feel free to PM, although it may take longer for me to respond.

[determined4000]

Ok When I saw a pic of Broccoli w/ PB, I can try it one day. I can eat pb with banana. I got it from my ex-girlfriend eating like that.

What do you to make pancakes? I was thinking make it and eat like bread because I hear if I eat bread I will get fats on my abs.

you make pancakes with flour, eggs and milk
Same as bread. Neither make you fat from eating it. Eating in too large a calorie surplus=fat gain. Focus on eating healthy (whole grain bread instead of white) and lifting hard and you should be fine

[Flyin Ryan]

Haha my bad D.
I had your thread open in one window and MEN opened in the other.
I'm sure you don't care about my chicken breast bagel sammich.
<_<

[determined4000]

Haha my bad D.
I had your thread open in one window and MEN opened in the other.
I'm sure you don't care about my chicken breast bagel sammich.
<_<

no
the D4000 thread openly welcomes tasty looking EATS pics from all subscribers
:)

[GlobalConflict]

recipe for that bread please? haha

[determined4000]

recipe for that bread please? haha
NOTE: This is forgotten pulse's original recipe

1 Cup Oats
1 Cup Water
1/2 Cup Milk
1/2 Cup Chunky Applesauce
1 Scoop Protein (I use Dymatize 12 Hour Banana Nut)
1 Tbsp Baking Powder
1 Tbsp Sweetener (splenda or whatever)
1 Whole Egg
Dash vanilla extract & cinnamon

I then blend all this, pour in bread pan, and bake at 380 degrees anywhere from 20-35 minutes. That's a big variance right there, but for some reason it's never the same. I bake this at night, so I usually just sit down and read and check on it every 3-4 minutes after ~25 minutes. Once I poke a knife in it and nothing comes off on it, I remove from oven. Let it sit for 15 minutes, remove from bread pan, and I wrap it in foil and let it sit in fridge. I have it for breakfast with some coffee. ~700kcals

[Scooter4]

NOTE: This is forgotten pulse's original recipe

1 Cup Oats
1 Cup Water
1/2 Cup Milk
1/2 Cup Chunky Applesauce
1 Scoop Protein (I use Dymatize 12 Hour Banana Nut)
1 Tbsp Baking Powder
1 Tbsp Sweetener (splenda or whatever)
1 Whole Egg
Dash vanilla extract & cinnamon

I then blend all this, pour in bread pan, and bake at 380 degrees anywhere from 20-35 minutes. That's a big variance right there, but for some reason it's never the same. I bake this at night, so I usually just sit down and read and check on it every 3-4 minutes after ~25 minutes. Once I poke a knife in it and nothing comes off on it, I remove from oven. Let it sit for 15 minutes, remove from bread pan, and I wrap it in foil and let it sit in fridge. I have it for breakfast with some coffee.~700kcals

Not IF'ing anymore?

[determined4000]

Not IF'ing anymore?

Actually the opposite--> my feeding window has shrung from 8 or 9 hours to about 5.5
Note: MY "Note:" in bold
The recipe is a copyright from forgotten pulse (the young bread king in MEN)
I guess you could say I have it for breakfast.. at 6pm

[determined4000]

Not IF'ing anymore?

Actually the opposite--> my feeding window has shrung from 8 or 9 hours to about 5.5
Note: MY "Note:"
The recipe is a copyright from forgotten pulse (the young bread king in MEN)
I also adjusted-->different protein, no apple sauce, more egg, less oats, more flour

[xcitex]

Ok guys, sorry for not posting in awhile.
Right now I get up, ready for work, out the door a little after 6am. Get home, workout and its 6-7pm (long commutes). Depending on whatever else I may be doing, I don't have a lot of relaxation time.
Thus, I am doing most of my cooking in bulk on Sundays. I honestly, don't feel like taking more time to make things look nice, snap pics, upload pics, and post pics. Plus, cooking in bulk-->Nothing spectacular. Maybe I will do a weekly progress report with a couple pics per week until the fall?

Good to see your updating again bro! :) Just update dont worry about the pics. Just update what you can!!!
how are the workouts coming along?

[Emma-Leigh]

Actually the opposite--> my feeding window has shrung from 8 or 9 hours to about 5.5
Note: MY "Note:"
The recipe is a copyright from forgotten pulse (the young bread king in MEN)
I also adjusted-->different protein, no apple sauce, more egg, less oats, more flour
D -->> why are you IF'ing?
Not the *best* option for you at this time....

[watermelon_2001]

D -->> why are you IF'ing?
Not the *best* option for you at this time....

I was wondering this myself...
Although I think it truly is great that you're addressing your problems with food, as I know how difficult that can be. But I had found myself thinking that IF'ing is essentially moving from one type of abnormal eating habit to another. Surely, in order to overcome an eating disorder, one of the key focuses should be to recorrect and 'normalize' eating habits. Also taking into consideration that anorexia involves depriving the body of food, is IF not essentially quite similar, with the exception of eventually satisfying your hunger?
D, I just wanted to know your thoughts on this, and any justifications for why you think it really is the best approach to overcoming an ED. Fair play if you find it works for you, but I would like to hear what you had to say...

[GlobalConflict]

hey D i had a question about some nutrition thing.

So i'm working on a bulk atm (well i have been for the past 3 months or so)

and becoming very interested in the facts about calories in and calories out, i read numerous sources (both supported and bro science sources) and they are equally weighing out in the terms of conflicting with each other's conclusions...

so i'm still wondering if the whole cals in and cals out thing is even true? So heres an example...
Example 1: I eat junk all day without worrying about protein and other sources, so my diet is made up of chocolates, ice cream, and frys, etc. but with some meats here and there.

Example 2: i eat whatever i want but worry about achieving the protein goal per day (aiming for about 150-160g a day) but along with the protein im eating crap like fries and ice cream

Example 3: I eat extremely healthy achieving my macros, spinach salads, healthy sandwiches, and baked potatoes, and healthy home cooked stuff.

My question is, even if i surplus on calories on all the situations, will the type of gain all be exactly the same? (yes i understand my nutrition micros arent met, like vitamins) but without that factor, all my gains should be exactly the same nonetheless the source of calories its coming from? (protein, fat, carbs)

[Scooter4]

hey D i had a question about some nutrition thing.

So i'm working on a bulk atm (well i have been for the past 3 months or so)

and becoming very interested in the facts about calories in and calories out, i read numerous sources (both supported and bro science sources) and they are equally weighing out in the terms of conflicting with each other's conclusions...

so i'm still wondering if the whole cals in and cals out thing is even true? So heres an example...
Example 1: I eat junk all day without worrying about protein and other sources, so my diet is made up of chocolates, ice cream, and frys, etc. but with some meats here and there.

Example 2: i eat whatever i want but worry about achieving the protein goal per day (aiming for about 150-160g a day) but along with the protein im eating crap like fries and ice cream

Example 3: I eat extremely healthy achieving my macros, spinach salads, healthy sandwiches, and baked potatoes, and healthy home cooked stuff.

My question is, even if i surplus on calories on all the situations, will the type of gain all be exactly the same? (yes i understand my nutrition micros arent met, like vitamins) but without that factor, all my gains should be exactly the same nonetheless the source of calories its coming from? (protein, fat, carbs)

I know this was directed at D, but I will respond to it as well.

A calorie from fat is a calorie from fat, a calorie from carbohydrates is a calories from carbohydrates, and a calorie from protein is a calorie of protein. You could hit all your macros by eating french fries, hamburgers, ice cream, and chips if you wanted to. Your body composition would be no different than if you ate sweet potatoes, nuts, olive oil, chicken breast, and oatmeal to hit your macros.

All in all, macros are macros. You can eat whatever you want as long as you hit them. However, general health is another story. You certainly wouldn't be healthy if you ate McDonalds and Burger King every day because of the quality of their food.

[Flyin Ryan]

I know this was directed at D, but I will respond to it as well.

A calorie from fat is a calorie from fat, a calorie from carbohydrates is a calories from carbohydrates, and a calorie from protein is a calorie of protein. You could hit all your macros by eating french fries, hamburgers, ice cream, and chips if you wanted to. Your body composition would be no different than if you ate sweet potatoes, nuts, olive oil, chicken breast, and oatmeal to hit your macros.

All in all, macros are macros. You can eat whatever you want as long as you hit them. However, general health is another story. You certainly wouldn't be healthy if you ate McDonalds and Burger King every day because of the quality of their food.

Exactly.
I was going to reply with pretty much the exact same.

I think if you find the correct balance, you can still fit the pizza/burgers/fries into your diet if you so choose. Hell, ice cream and certain kinds of candy are foods that I enjoy. And, I have the ability to fit those into my diet on a day-to-day basis without "cheating".

However, the majority of my calories do still come from "clean" foods... lean meats, cheeses, broccoli, whole grains, oats, peanut butter, etc etc.

[determined4000]

D -->> why are you IF'ing?
Not the *best* option for you at this time....

I have been for 18months +
It helps me mentally enjoy life, family, friends, focus on work/school
I don't have to think about food, eating, what to eat, when to eat, packing food, buying food, etc.
I can just come home after school/work and prepare my meals and that is that.
I also have completely lost any hunger triggers over the years. So when I was eating 6x a day, I would often have no problem skipping meals. Sometimes I would feel like I shouldn't be eating because I wasn't hungry and thought my body should be telling me when to eat (which it never did). I would not want to "make up for" missed meals later though because I didn't feel right eating double. With IF, I know I am "supposed to" and "need to" get in all my calories in my time slot. It just falls into the routine.
But as I said, I started for social reasons. I could never enjoy any part of my life because my thoughts were always consumed with food. I could not focus or enjoy others at all.
Lastly, IF has helped me the most break my obsessive exercise compulsion. I literally used to exercise after each time I ate something (everytime). Eat breakfast, exercise, eat a snack, exercise, etc, etc. I ended up exercising for hours every day. Now I have the ground rules that I will not exercising once I start eating, so I want get that impulse to start the eat -->exercise cycle. So I finish my workout (only 1) and then my eating period starts. No activity allowed.

[determined4000]

hey D i had a question about some nutrition thing.

So i'm working on a bulk atm (well i have been for the past 3 months or so)

and becoming very interested in the facts about calories in and calories out, i read numerous sources (both supported and bro science sources) and they are equally weighing out in the terms of conflicting with each other's conclusions...

so i'm still wondering if the whole cals in and cals out thing is even true? So heres an example...
Example 1: I eat junk all day without worrying about protein and other sources, so my diet is made up of chocolates, ice cream, and frys, etc. but with some meats here and there.

Example 2: i eat whatever i want but worry about achieving the protein goal per day (aiming for about 150-160g a day) but along with the protein im eating crap like fries and ice cream

Example 3: I eat extremely healthy achieving my macros, spinach salads, healthy sandwiches, and baked potatoes, and healthy home cooked stuff.

My question is, even if i surplus on calories on all the situations, will the type of gain all be exactly the same? (yes i understand my nutrition micros arent met, like vitamins) but without that factor, all my gains should be exactly the same nonetheless the source of calories its coming from? (protein, fat, carbs)

IMO, ex. 1 would not achieve results because protein intake is inadequate.
ex.2 and 3 will achieve results but are not completely healthy either. Ex.2 you are eating crap, which may not make a difference in the shrot term, but your overall health will not be as good in the long run. I also think garbage in= garbage out in terms of energy levels and well-being if it is really all junk.
Ex. 3 is probably going to lead to obsessing and psychological stress over time. I have been victim of this.
In terms of macros, 1-1.5g/lb in protein and .4-.5g/lb in fat. Fill in the rest with whatever you want. That is what I would recommend. Eat healthy, but allow yourself to enjoy other things as well. Don't look at diet or anything in terms of black and white/ all or nothing.

[BSBully]

I got a ton of respect for that...you've overcome some great obstacles and through the process, have become respected and gained knowledge on the subject.

[Flyin Ryan]

IMO, ex. 1 would not achieve results because protein intake is inadequate.
ex.2 and 3 will achieve results but are not completely healthy either. Ex.2 you are eating crap, which may not make a difference in the shrot term, but your overall health will not be as good in the long run. I also think garbage in= garbage out in terms of energy levels and well-being if it is really all junk.
Ex. 3 is probably going to lead to obsessing and psychological stress over time. I have been victim of this.
In terms of macros, 1-1.5g/lb in protein and .4-.5g/lb in fat. Fill in the rest with whatever you want. That is what I would recommend. Eat healthy, but allow yourself to enjoy other things as well. Don't look at diet or anything in terms of black and white/ all or nothing.

Bingo.

[GlobalConflict]

sweet guys. thanks for the answers so quick, so the answer is, yes macros are macros. If i choose to eat crap sources, i still need to eat the right amount of protein/fat/carbs or it IS different from sources such as oatmeal.

Ya ive been eating almost clean for every meal which seems to work for my sanity, gains are lacking a little recently because i keep on hitting diet plateaus it seems, im constantly upping my cals its ridiculous on how much it has gone up. Didnt know my metabolism was that shot.

Typically ive been eating high carbs on full body workout days (like when i do squats or deadlifts) then medium on days when i do chest or my arms, then low on the days i take off

im keeping the calories realitively the same even on off days since i figured my body needs to the extra source of nutrition since i certainly have none on my body to spare.

[xcitex]

bro update!!!!!

[Gesou]

Hey, D, How bout an update?

[determined4000]

bro update!!!!!


Hey, D, How bout an update?

Alright.
I will give an update.
Still working long hours and don't have a lot of time to make the prettiest and tastiest of concoctions. Been doing a lot of bulk cooking because of so little time during the week. I have also come to the realization that I have to take a break from counting macros. Essentially there is no point for me to do it. I can really just focus on calories because my fat and protein intake is going to meet minimums no matter what. But even looking at the numbers effects my food choices. I also have had a problem in the past being OCD about how much I spend on my food. Part of my spreadsheet which calculates my macros had a column that tallied up the expense of what I was eating based on servings and price per serving. Consequently I end up choosing what to eat based on how I can save money and hit exact macro numbers, then doing my best to make it tasty (which it still was). However, I just want to be able to eat freely and just eat what I feel like at that moment. Not planning it out to fit X amount of protein, fat ,etc or saving a few dimes by eating X instead of Y.

Lifting. I feel like I have regressed a little becuase I haven't had time to work out as much :(. I am trying to rework my routine schedule so I can get my lifts back up. I have about a month and a half left for this internship, then I have one semester left in school. I will have a lot of time in the fall to really hit the gym, kitchen and dinner table hard, so I am just doing my best to get through the rest of summer and looking forward to putting on legit muscle and mass in the fall.

Eating. I have changed up a few things. I have ditched my casein for some 12hour Dymatize at night. The stuff is amazing. It also has some added benefits of things like flaxseed, a protein mix (also contains egg, milk matrix, peptides), and is 12 hour digesting vs 6-7 of casein. Seeing as how I fast 17-19 hours, I only see it as a plus. The fudge brownie makes my mouth water and I use in baking. Vanilla makes fantastic ice cream.
I also like the thickness. I give it a solid 9 of 10.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture1040.jpg?t=1279387863


I also got into special K protein plus (big sale when I was still obsessing over $) and loaded up. Stuff is great 100calories, 10g protein, 3g fat, 5g fiber and kind of reminds me of the taste of wheaties. Also great with different flavors of whey.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/others/Picture1033.jpg?t=1279387040

Thirdly, I bought some walnuts. Really high in omega 3 rather than omega 6 like most other nuts. They don't have as much flavors as almonds so I decided to make them candied walnuts with cinnamon and a simple syrup.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/determined4000/PBtr/Picture1009.jpg?t=1279387939


Well thats what I have been up to. Maybe if I have time I will try to post some food pics more often. Without counting macros and $ anymore I have been trying a lot of different foods recently. Over and out.

[Murderfox]

I have ditched my casein for some 12hour Dymatize at night. The stuff is amazing. It also has some added benefits of things like flaxseed, a protein mix (also contains egg, milk matrix, peptides), and is 12 hour digesting vs 6-7 of casein. Seeing as how I fast 17-19 hours, I only see it as a plus. The fudge brownie makes my mouth water and I use in baking. Vanilla makes fantastic ice cream.
I also like the thickness. I give it a solid 9 of 10.



Really hope that you don't believe that.

Good stuff though, those Special K are pretty good, tried em recently.

[DTrulez616]

You probably havent seen much of me but ive lurked in this journal since it started since I see you around the boards alot. I gotta say not counting is a big step and once you can stop being so OCD about everything it makes life ALOT easier.

Elite 12 Hour is my favorite protein. I love the Fudge Brownie and Banana Nut. How does the Vanilla stand up because ive never tried it?

[determined4000]

You probably havent seen much of me but ive lurked in this journal since it started since I see you around the boards alot. I gotta say not counting is a big step and once you can stop being so OCD about everything it makes life ALOT easier.

Elite 12 Hour is my favorite protein. I love the Fudge Brownie and Banana Nut. How does the Vanilla stand up because ive never tried it?

Thanks for following.
I have not tried banana. I heard it was really good but I already have banana whey that is really strong, so I figured if I wanted some banana flavor I would just add a tbsp of that to the vanilla. I would put it up there as the best vanilla I have had along with ON casein's. Better than any vanilla whey's or blends I have had. I like the fudge brownie because it is not the typical chocolate flavor. You can really make some fudge like brownies using eggs, cocoa powder and flour with it. And thick like a casein which I like.
There is also a blueberry although I have heard to stay away from that one.

[Holyspokes]

Just a note about the walnuts - they are higher in omega 3s, but only because they have about 3x more PUFA overall compared to other nuts. They also have 3x more the Omega 6s.

[determined4000]

Just a note about the walnuts - they are higher in omega 3s, but only because they have about 3x more PUFA overall compared to other nuts. They also have 3x more the Omega 6s.

according to nutritiondata.com per 100g
almonds

Total Fat
52.8
g
81%
Saturated Fat
4g
Monounsaturated Fat
33.7g

Polyunsaturated Fat
12.7g
Total Omega-3 fatty acids
~

Total Omega-6 fatty acids
12648mg

walnuts


Total Fat
65.2g

Saturated Fat
6.1g

Monounsaturated Fat
8.9g


Polyunsaturated Fat
47.2g

Total Omega-3 fatty acids
9079
mg

Total Omega-6 fatty acids
38092
mg

[Holyspokes]

according to nutritiondata.com ....

Right.. which is what I said in my OP.

Just sayin, if your looking to boost your omega 3 - 6 ratio which is usually the concern, walnuts aren't gonna do it for you really.

[determined4000]

Right.. which is what I said in my OP.

Just sayin, if your looking to boost your omega 3 - 6 ratio which is usually the concern, walnuts aren't gonna do it for you really.

I realize that. They are just better (ratio) than almonds and I wanted something different.
Flax and and fish oil are probably your best bet for 3:6 ratio.

[JL2503]

Hi D!

I just read through the entire 25 pages! It was an inspiring and interesting read :)

I wonder about the mexican mash! No one asked for the recipe, but I found it interesting, I'm more into savory than sweet foods.

Also, I have just yesterday decided to get off my ass of having little to no gains, being afraid of gaining fat, and eating 1,500 calories a day for months. I'm 5'4", around 130lbs, and its great to find someone of similar height who I can relate to..

Thanks for the motivation. I've upped my cals to 1,800.. but just don't feel like eating any more than that!

[determined4000]

Hi D!

I just read through the entire 25 pages! It was an inspiring and interesting read :)

I wonder about the mexican mash! No one asked for the recipe, but I found it interesting, I'm more into savory than sweet foods.

Also, I have just yesterday decided to get off my ass of having little to no gains, being afraid of gaining fat, and eating 1,500 calories a day for months. I'm 5'4", around 130lbs, and its great to find someone of similar height who I can relate to..

Thanks for the motivation. I've upped my cals to 1,800.. but just don't feel like eating any more than that!

MEXICAN Cauliflower"RICE"


1lb Cauliflower Steamed(microwaved until very soft-->smash up)

Then Add

1/2 cup salsa
Garlic powder
Salt
Pepper
Chili Powder
Paprika
1/2 an onion (sliced and sauteed)

For the cheesy version: Then you can melt cheese in or on
Fo the creamier/buttery version: I melt in a few tbsp Promise (like I can't believe its not butter)
Tastes great reheated, so you can cook in bulk and have for the week. Just wait to add the cheese or butter until you are reheating.


Why are you stuck on 1800? It is just a number. Don't fear a number. You are stronger than that.