Since I been through it, Feel free to ask me any questions about College Football

[PitbullJR]

ask anything in terms of training, diet, school, family, what it takes to be successful..etc. I will attempt to help and to answer each question

[Cowart69]

I have some questions.

My son has missed his senior year due to an ACL tear (surgery scheduled for the first week in Jan) prior to that things looked pretty good to at least go D2 level on scholarship.....he screwed off his junior year and god bad grades after having decent ones prior to that.

His senior year his grades haven been pretty good....but grades compiled with the injury have taken away his chances of scholarship directly out of high school.

He is going to go to Junior College.....but it has taken the doctors so long to diagnose his acl injury that now maybe he doesn't have enough time to get back to 100 percent before football starts next year (I hear too many stories of players coming back too hard to soon and reinjuring)

Now I hear comments of "grey shirt" and "red shirt" and wonder if these also apply to JC? Grey shirt doesn't sound like an option as it might take away a year of eligibility? Is it more feasable to red shirt at a JC and if he does just how much will he be able to do with the team?

The other question I have is he has some invites from JC's to come out and visit the schools.....but most dont know he has an ACL injury. How much should he be telling these coaches?

[PitbullJR]

I have spoken to you before about this. If your son grey shirts that means he will be enrolled in school but not as a full-time student. Since he will not be a full-time student his eligiblity clock would have not started. If he redshirts his clock will start and he will be allowed to do everything with the team except play which is obvious.

In terms of what to tell the coaches, he should tell them the truth. I say this because he is going to need to continue to re-hab with the trainers at the JC. By telling the coach all the details then you as his dad along with the coach can map out the best plan for your boy.

[bishopbeater]

hey man, i really want to play college football. even if it is a d2 school. but anyways im about 5'8 and about 125 pounds. i play on bulking to about..185 by the time a senior. i play corner back. i can make good reads. and i miss very few tackles..even on people bigger than me (as you can see im not very big) what do you think my chances of getting a scholarship, or walking on to a school? o and i got prolly..3-4 tackles a game during this years season. was teh second highest in our Dbacks. prolly around 30 tackles total. thanks man.

[PitbullJR]

hey man, i really want to play college football. even if it is a d2 school. but anyways im about 5'8 and about 125 pounds. i play on bulking to about..185 by the time a senior. i play corner back. i can make good reads. and i miss very few tackles..even on people bigger than me (as you can see im not very big) what do you think my chances of getting a scholarship, or walking on to a school? o and i got prolly..3-4 tackles a game during this years season. was teh second highest in our Dbacks. prolly around 30 tackles total. thanks man.

Well hell, if you are already starting despite being so small that should tell you something. You are probably a true baller. I understand you wanting to get your weight up but during the process just make sure you don't decrease your speed. I played at a SEC school and although I was a big DB, we had some guys who were 170. Just keep working hard man. Being a solid tackler at CB will get you scholarship offers, trust me. Keeping working on your technique and you will be well on your way my brother.

[nrgline]

Any tips? im gonna ba senior next year and i wanna b around 6'1 180 running a 4.5
idk what my 40 is atm. i am doing monday and thursday upperbody and tuesday and friday lowerbody work. i do plyo 3x's a week, mon. wens. and frid.

im gonna try to walk on beacuase i tihkn its too late to get my name big and get a scholarship during my senior season

[PitbullJR]

Any tips? im gonna ba senior next year and i wanna b around 6'1 180 running a 4.5
idk what my 40 is atm. i am doing monday and thursday upperbody and tuesday and friday lowerbody work. i do plyo 3x's a week, mon. wens. and frid.

im gonna try to walk on beacuase i tihkn its too late to get my name big and get a scholarship during my senior season


Strive higher than walking on. lol how is it too late to get a scholly offer when you haven't played your season yr yet? You make your name big by making plays. The eye in the sky don't lie. When coaches watch film they will see what kind of ball player you are.
My tips is too work on your speed, be fundamentally sound and attend all the football camps you can this spring. That alone will get your name out.

[decafchicken]

hey man, i really want to play college football. even if it is a d2 school. but anyways im about 5'8 and about 125 pounds. i play on bulking to about..185 by the time a senior. i play corner back. i can make good reads. and i miss very few tackles..even on people bigger than me (as you can see im not very big) what do you think my chances of getting a scholarship, or walking on to a school? o and i got prolly..3-4 tackles a game during this years season. was teh second highest in our Dbacks. prolly around 30 tackles total. thanks man.

You're 15. Play some ball, keep training hard, Re-evaluate after you junior/senior seasons...it's too early to tell, you don't know where your body/playing level will be in 3 years.

[K_J]

What did your training regimine look like and how brutal would you say it is?
How did college football affect your social life- negatively or positively and elaborate please.
How much food were you eating everyday?

[PitbullJR]

What did your training regimine look like and how brutal would you say it is?
How did college football affect your social life- negatively or positively and elaborate please.
How much food were you eating everyday?

Training was usually broke into 4 days during the off-season. We did a lot of olympic lifting. I wouldn't call it brutal. Conditioning was usually a challenge but it is suppose to be.
Well being a football player everyone knows you. I enjoyed myself. There were groupies, true fans and everybody in the state treated me fairly nice. I couldnt imagine just going to college as a regular student, in the sense that it would be very boring.
We had a team training table, where only athletes on scholarship would/could eat. I ate probably 2 solid meals a day. A lot of meat, potatoes, veggies etc were always there for us. We all were given a 5lb jug of muscle milk and we had a nutrition bar which we went to after our workouts.

[RAW87]

how did you college go about speed training?

[PitbullJR]

how did you college go about speed training?

We did a lot of sprint work with 40 pound weighted vest and sleds. Some times the sleds were loaded up with 3-4 45lb's plates and some days there were none. The day there were no plates we ran 110's with the sled attached to us.
We also did a lot of hurdle work. One day a week we would do agility drills in the sand pit

[Cowart69]

I have spoken to you before about this. If your son grey shirts that means he will be enrolled in school but not as a full-time student. Since he will not be a full-time student his eligiblity clock would have not started. If he redshirts his clock will start and he will be allowed to do everything with the team except play which is obvious.

In terms of what to tell the coaches, he should tell them the truth. I say this because he is going to need to continue to re-hab with the trainers at the JC. By telling the coach all the details then you as his dad along with the coach can map out the best plan for your boy.

Pit....Im sorry you did send me this info I missed it....thanks.

[Geometrics]

My senior year is next year and I have'nt played football since 8th grade.Ive committed all my time in high school to basketball but I havent received any full scholarship offers yet. I got one year left of high school and I believe I have the potential to compete in d1 football, should I go for it just in case basketball doesnt work out? My stats are 6"3 3/4 barefoot,about 180 lbs,30+ vertical and a 4.9 40 time

[LC83]

Im a redshirt soph. right now at a D1-FCS school right now. I always ask other athletes in all the other sports the question- "if you could do it all over again, would you choose this school?" A good number said they would have chosen differently. I know you can never predict what how your career and team will fair but after going through it all....would you do it differently?

[PitbullJR]

My senior year is next year and I have'nt played football since 8th grade.Ive committed all my time in high school to basketball but I havent received any full scholarship offers yet. I got one year left of high school and I believe I have the potential to compete in d1 football, should I go for it just in case basketball doesnt work out? My stats are 6"3 3/4 barefoot,about 180 lbs,30+ vertical and a 4.9 40 time

Yes you should

[PitbullJR]

Im a redshirt soph. right now at a D1-FCS school right now. I always ask other athletes in all the other sports the question- "if you could do it all over again, would you choose this school?" A good number said they would have chosen differently. I know you can never predict what how your career and team will fair but after going through it all....would you do it differently?

Yes I would man. Going into college I was a cocky azzhole to sum it up. It was all about me. Things worked out and I was lucky enough to live a childhood dream but during the process I was mean to a lot of people. I should have went to Alabama with coach Shula at the time, but I was sooo worried about being " the man" on my team. Young and dumb, they go hand and hand

[Erukossx]

I never played High School football but im planning on trying out at a junior college for next season. I was just wondering how hard you think it would be starting out at the JC level. I am pretty good at sports but wrestling is the only one i did in high school until i blew out my knee my junior year. I just turned 20 and am 6' 2" 250.

[PitbullJR]

I never played High School football but im planning on trying out at a junior college for next season. I was just wondering how hard you think it would be starting out at the JC level. I am pretty good at sports but wrestling is the only one i did in high school until i blew out my knee my junior year. I just turned 20 and am 6' 2" 250.

Well, nothing replaces experiences. However since you do have an athletic background it will make the transition easier. Just dedicate yourself and do the lieele things rights

[kasdude14]

Hey man. So in my high school career i really loved the sport but had a huge weight problem. my sophmore year i made huge gains on my lifts and in the summer had cut 50 lbs. then a week before two a days i snapped my arm in a car wreck and it took me out for the season. i fell into a depression and had a dispute with the head coach. I last minute decided to play my senior year and was not in the shape i used to be. I weighed 370 pounds and actually was good at the sport but did not have the best athleticism.

After that year i cut down to 285 and about 30% body fat. Right now Im weighing 290 at about 22% bodyfat as my trainer told me. and ive been coaching football for the last year and a half. I was thinking about trying to walk on to a small school. Do you think i should try it?

[PitbullJR]

Hey man. So in my high school career i really loved the sport but had a huge weight problem. my sophmore year i made huge gains on my lifts and in the summer had cut 50 lbs. then a week before two a days i snapped my arm in a car wreck and it took me out for the season. i fell into a depression and had a dispute with the head coach. I last minute decided to play my senior year and was not in the shape i used to be. I weighed 370 pounds and actually was good at the sport but did not have the best athleticism.

After that year i cut down to 285 and about 30% body fat. Right now Im weighing 290 at about 22% bodyfat as my trainer told me. and ive been coaching football for the last year and a half. I was thinking about trying to walk on to a small school. Do you think i should try it?

Hell yeah you should try. You have nothing to lose. It is obvious from your weight loss you have determination. Best of luck to you man

[BuckeyeROC]

Pitbull, when did you graduate? Any NFL tryouts?

[PitbullJR]

Pitbull, when did you graduate? Any NFL tryouts?


08, Yes I was signed to a team up until recently I got released.

[HULK_JR15]

iight i remember you commented on my post a couple days ago........i have no lick of experience other than playin street football my family is athletic ive always had the dream of becoming a football star lol but my pops kept me from it cuase he didnt want to see me hurt..... but ive been training so hard now bout 5 days a week for the past couple years jus to have a chance to shine at all and i still feel if its not good enough.... im not goin to push myself to over train but im jus thinkin but busting out and doin some buckwild like pullin my car up and down the block a few times lol.....but my main question is was there anything that gave u a edge? and whats a good weight for a RB

[PitbullJR]

iight i remember you commented on my post a couple days ago........i have no lick of experience other than playin street football my family is athletic ive always had the dream of becoming a football star lol but my pops kept me from it cuase he didnt want to see me hurt..... but ive been training so hard now bout 5 days a week for the past couple years jus to have a chance to shine at all and i still feel if its not good enough.... im not goin to push myself to over train but im jus thinkin but busting out and doin some buckwild like pullin my car up and down the block a few times lol.....but my main question is was there anything that gave u a edge? and whats a good weight for a RB

What gave me an edge was that I was fundamentally sound. My dad would have my brother and I on the field for 3 hours and 1 of those hours were used just to teach technique. The average size of rbs are from 5'9- 5'11 wt 210-230

[HULK_JR15]

oh werd what techniques did u practice....

[PitbullJR]

oh werd what techniques did u practice....

Not to false step, breaking on the football, proper hand placement when blocking, how to shed blocks, bump and run technique, whirlie bird technique etc etc

[Geometrics]

Yes you should

What would an ideal position be for me with the stats I have posted atm?

[PitbullJR]

What would an ideal position be for me with the stats I have posted atm?

you have height which is good, but I cant make that judgement without seeing your overall athletic ability.

[HULK_JR15]

so do squats and deadlift work within each other like the more you deadlift the more likely u be able to squat more and was ur forty time and what did it take to get u there

[PitbullJR]

so do squats and deadlift work within each other like the more you deadlift the more likely u be able to squat more and was ur forty time and what did it take to get u there

I am not sure, but by having a heavy deadlift it shows overall strength. That does not hold true for any other exercise.
I ran a 4.41, it took a lot of work. some workouts were just cater to running a faster 40. I had to do a lot of resistance 10 yard sprints. I also did many 60 yard sprints with a weight vest and parachute. I didn't actually run the 40 until combine and pro day workouts.

[HULK_JR15]

cool cool and i dnt mean jus keep droppin questions on u but was sprints and running all that was done focusing on your speed or u have any weight lifting training program and etc..... cuase if im goin to make it where im tryin to be ima need every peice of advice/info i can get for speed and agility

[PitbullJR]

cool cool and i dnt mean jus keep droppin questions on u but was sprints and running all that was done focusing on your speed or u have any weight lifting training program and etc..... cuase if im goin to make it where im tryin to be ima need every peice of advice/info i can get for speed and agility

Ask as many questions as u need, I am here to help man. We did a lot of plyo's, jumping over hurdles, heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, and a lot of hamstring work. I personally took yoga 2x a week

[HULK_JR15]

yoga lol well where i live its like hella country bumkins out here lol no yoga around walmart is like the mall for everybody but yea my resistance parachute is comin threw the mail soon and im trying to do hella sprints in the near future.....but as plyo i mean which plyos did u do cuase i have alot of options but i need the most effective......................and have u heard of the squat flex from jump usa....... they say it will increase ur speed and vertical they had a dde my height dunkin like it wont ****

[Species2131]

What were the average lifting stats for DBs at your school? Also how much free time did you have outside of football related activities and schoolwork?

[hubbell525]

ask anything in terms of training, diet, school, family, what it takes to be successful..etc. I will attempt to help and to answer each question

Just three questions homeboy......What SEC school did you go to? Where did you go to HS? What state?

[UNOMav]

Just two questions homeboy......What SEC school did you go to? Where did you go to HS? What state?

That's 3 questions

[Beech27]

How much focus did you put on conditioning? Of course, football is a game played in short bursts, so I would imagine the bulk of your training was devoted to explosive lifting/speed drills. But did you do any, what most would call, conventional cardio? If so, how much, and when?

[DriveMyWhey]

you played half back right? so i think you can answer this question.
do the coaches care to recruit fullbacks? were there any recruited fullbacks(played FB in highschool, not a converted HB)?

[PitbullJR]

What were the average lifting stats for DBs at your school? Also how much free time did you have outside of football related activities and schoolwork?

We didnt have much free time. We had practice in the morning. And film session in the evening. I usually got home around 7pm everynight. I don't know the average but we all could squat in the 400's and most bench press in the high 200's and some in the 300's.

[PitbullJR]

yoga lol well where i live its like hella country bumkins out here lol no yoga around walmart is like the mall for everybody but yea my resistance parachute is comin threw the mail soon and im trying to do hella sprints in the near future.....but as plyo i mean which plyos did u do cuase i have alot of options but i need the most effective......................and have u heard of the squat flex from jump usa....... they say it will increase ur speed and vertical they had a dde my height dunkin like it wont ****

Med ball tosses, box jumps, we had one stupid drill where we had to go through the agility ladder while jumping rope.

[PitbullJR]

Just three questions homeboy......What SEC school did you go to? Where did you go to HS? What state?

Univ of Kentucky and I went to HS on the eastcoast

[PitbullJR]

How much focus did you put on conditioning? Of course, football is a game played in short bursts, so I would imagine the bulk of your training was devoted to explosive lifting/speed drills. But did you do any, what most would call, conventional cardio? If so, how much, and when?

Do you mean my own conditioning outside of the teams conditioning?

[PitbullJR]

you played half back right? so i think you can answer this question.
do the coaches care to recruit fullbacks? were there any recruited fullbacks(played FB in highschool, not a converted HB)?

It really depends on the school. Many Big 10 schools still run the traditional I and will need a lead blocker. But most schools as you mention will turn a HB into a FB in order to create match up problems. A good example of this is Havili at USC

[Beech27]

Do you mean my own conditioning outside of the teams conditioning?

You, if that's more than what was required by the team. I would imagine that, being a skill position player, conditioning would be a priority.

[PitbullJR]

You, if that's more than what was required by the team. I would imagine that, being a skill position player, conditioning would be a priority.

I ran a lot of 110's. Started running 12 of them with a 45 second rest and ended running 24 of them before camp started. I use to train a lot on the track, 6 sets of 200 meters.

[Beech27]

I ran a lot of 110's. Started running 12 of them with a 45 second rest and ended running 24 of them before camp started. I use to train a lot on the track, 6 sets of 200 meters.

And, finally, how did you split this up around your weight training? That sounds like it would be difficult to recover from lifting, if that workout was performed on off-days.

[PitbullJR]

And, finally, how did you split this up around your weight training? That sounds like it would be difficult to recover from lifting, if that workout was performed on off-days.

It wasn't hard to recover from. I will simply do my morning running with my trainer at 8 am and right after hit up the gym. But keep in my mind I have been training in this fashion since 9th grade

[ginch]

What's the plan now? Gonna keep pushing and shoot for the nfl again?

[PitbullJR]

What's the plan now? Gonna keep pushing and shoot for the nfl again?

yup, will be ready to go for OTA in the spring/summer

[DriveMyWhey]

It really depends on the school. Many Big 10 schools still run the traditional I and will need a lead blocker. But most schools as you mention will turn a HB into a FB in order to create match up problems. A good example of this is Havili at USC

so do you think there's much less chance to get a college scholarship as a fullback?
this is a really weird situation with me here because i played outside linebacker this year and the linebacker's coach is not really good. everyday he tells us more about how he got drunk than what we actually need to do to player better football. he just focuses on his starting 3 and doesn't really give much attention to the others, but on the other hand, the d-line coach REALLY wants me to be on his squad as DE, and i'm actually playing it really good. so i was thinking of playing fullback on offense and DE on defense, hopefully some coaches will find me and maybe convert me to OLB.
and again, even when playing fullback, our offense uses fullback as a lead blocker and as a power runner, so that might attract some coaches too i guess, is it?

do you think its a good idea?

[txapn]

so do you think there's much less chance to get a college scholarship as a fullback?
this is a really weird situation with me here because i played outside linebacker this year and the linebacker's coach is not really good. everyday he tells us more about how he got drunk than what we actually need to do to player better football. he just focuses on his starting 3 and doesn't really give much attention to the others, but on the other hand, the d-line coach REALLY wants me to be on his squad as DE, and i'm actually playing it really good. so i was thinking of playing fullback on offense and DE on defense, hopefully some coaches will find me and maybe convert me to OLB.
and again, even when playing fullback, our offense uses fullback as a lead blocker and as a power runner, so that might attract some coaches too i guess, is it?

do you think its a good idea?

Dont mean to butt in pit your doing a hell of a good job,

But drivemywhey, how is your speed and hands? Asking bc at your size I think you would fit a lot better at some other positions. I know your only 17 and you still have a lot of time but once you get to the next level the coaches will fit you where they want you to be.
But interested in you speed, I could give some idea where you could be slotted, I played 4 yrs in the ACC.

[DriveMyWhey]

Dont mean to butt in pit your doing a hell of a good job,

But drivemywhey, how is your speed and hands? Asking bc at your size I think you would fit a lot better at some other positions. I know your only 17 and you still have a lot of time but once you get to the next level the coaches will fit you where they want you to be.
But interested in you speed, I could give some idea where you could be slotted, I played 4 yrs in the ACC.

these stats are irrelevant to what i'm in reality. i'm now at 185lbs and still gaining weight, by football camp i'll be at 215-220, don't worry about the weight.
speed wise, i was the fastest, probably most athletic of all linebackers this season.
anyway, you will never, ever, see me playing wide receiver, or db.

i don't really want lightning-fast speed this year, i want to be more of a bruising fullback with punishing straight-line speed.


i have decent catching abilities i guess, i played linebacker so not a whole lot of catching going on there, but there was that occasional interception in practice.

[txapn]

these stats are irrelevant to what i'm in reality. i'm now at 185lbs and still gaining weight, by football camp i'll be at 215-220, don't worry about the weight.
speed wise, i was the fastest, probably most athletic of all linebackers this season.
anyway, you will never, ever, see me playing wide receiver, or db.

i don't really want lightning-fast speed this year, i want to be more of a bruising fullback with punishing straight-line speed.


i have decent catching abilities i guess, i played linebacker so not a whole lot of catching going on there, but there was that occasional interception in practice.

okay good deal i was just seeing 170 and all of our FB (which were converted HBs) were over 200 and mojority over 220! it sound like you would make a good LB...

but just want to say if thats what you want to play then bust ur a** and you can do it for sure but keep a open mind bc the coaches usually have different ideas than you do!

case ex. my senior yr (after playing 3 yrs at WR) they added weight to me and put me as TE! i hated it!! i wasnt very good but the coaches worked with me and i got better, and started getting quite a few more plays in a game. it wasnt anything i ever thought would happen but hey if i wanna play then i got do what i gotta do!

good luck though and if you have good speed and decent hands you can prob make a team as FB, most high school FBs have niether and are mostly converted OL-DL!

[DriveMyWhey]

okay good deal i was just seeing 170 and all of our FB (which were converted HBs) were over 200 and mojority over 220! it sound like you would make a good LB...

but just want to say if thats what you want to play then bust ur a** and you can do it for sure but keep a open mind bc the coaches usually have different ideas than you do!

case ex. my senior yr (after playing 3 yrs at WR) they added weight to me and put me as TE! i hated it!! i wasnt very good but the coaches worked with me and i got better, and started getting quite a few more plays in a game. it wasnt anything i ever thought would happen but hey if i wanna play then i got do what i gotta do!

good luck though and if you have good speed and decent hands you can prob make a team as FB, most high school FBs have niether and are mostly converted OL-DL!

oh yeah, i'll be playing fullback at 210-220, and if i'll grow an inch or two then maybe i'll push it to 230, but highly unlikely.
i mean, when you look at this year's top fullbacks, you see that they all have a list of offers. look at the #1 ranked fullback in the nation:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/football/recruiting/player-Zach-Zwinak-92365

and also, this year there aren't as much heavily recruited fullbacks as opposed to last year, so i think that next year i'll have a better chance.

and even these lists are not completely true, just look at marcus mailei(new orleans saints fullback, from weber state[d1-aa]), according to rivals he didn't get an offer, weber state aren't even on the list, yet he's in the nfl now. maybe the rivals ranking thingy isn't that accurate, in my opinion, there are more than 10-15 recruited fullbacks this year, so yeah, there's a chance.

[PitbullJR]

so do you think there's much less chance to get a college scholarship as a fullback?
this is a really weird situation with me here because i played outside linebacker this year and the linebacker's coach is not really good. everyday he tells us more about how he got drunk than what we actually need to do to player better football. he just focuses on his starting 3 and doesn't really give much attention to the others, but on the other hand, the d-line coach REALLY wants me to be on his squad as DE, and i'm actually playing it really good. so i was thinking of playing fullback on offense and DE on defense, hopefully some coaches will find me and maybe convert me to OLB.
and again, even when playing fullback, our offense uses fullback as a lead blocker and as a power runner, so that might attract some coaches too i guess, is it?

do you think its a good idea?

I think it is a good idea and if you are performing well, a school would want you. It may be a 1-a, 1-aa, Div 2 or D3 team. You will have a home to play college ball

[txapn]

and even these lists are not completely true, just look at marcus mailei(new orleans saints fullback, from weber state[d1-aa]), according to rivals he didn't get an offer, weber state aren't even on the list, yet he's in the nfl now. maybe the rivals ranking thingy isn't that accurate, in my opinion, there are more than 10-15 recruited fullbacks this year, so yeah, THERES A CHANCE.

OH YEAH, man for sure there is a good chance! I wasnt doubting you at all just trying to get facts down. like said above you will def have some places to play. just work hard and it will all fall into place for ya!

[PitbullJR]

oh yeah, i'll be playing fullback at 210-220, and if i'll grow an inch or two then maybe i'll push it to 230, but highly unlikely.
i mean, when you look at this year's top fullbacks, you see that they all have a list of offers. look at the #1 ranked fullback in the nation:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/football/recruiting/player-Zach-Zwinak-92365

and also, this year there aren't as much heavily recruited fullbacks as opposed to last year, so i think that next year i'll have a better chance.

and even these lists are not completely true, just look at marcus mailei(new orleans saints fullback, from weber state[d1-aa]), according to rivals he didn't get an offer, weber state aren't even on the list, yet he's in the nfl now. maybe the rivals ranking thingy isn't that accurate, in my opinion, there are more than 10-15 recruited fullbacks this year, so yeah, there's a chance.

I am not too sure if you are a running FB or would like to be but here are some universities that run the Wing T and Option attack:

Springfield University
Birmingham Southern of the SCAC
Cumberland College in Tennessee
Susquehanna University of Selingsgrove, PA
Salisbury University in MD run the Flexbone
Grove City Univ outside of Pittsburgh
Carnegie Mellon
Ohio Wesleyan
Endicott

[DocHollidy]

its funny you mentioned salisbury, I grew up a half hour from their, they run all day long

[DriveMyWhey]

I am not too sure if you are a running FB or would like to be but here are some universities that run the Wing T and Option attack:

Springfield University
Birmingham Southern of the SCAC
Cumberland College in Tennessee
Susquehanna University of Selingsgrove, PA
Salisbury University in MD run the Flexbone
Grove City Univ outside of Pittsburgh
Carnegie Mellon
Ohio Wesleyan
Endicott

my primary goal as FB is not to run, but block, but, with that said i feel that running and receiving is a MUST for me in order to impress coaches, and in college i'd like to be a legit receiving target and as a runner for 3rd and short and goal line situations.
our offense doesn't even run an I formation, but i'll ask the coach to add it(i'm sure he'll agree). pretty much a power runner, similiar to mike alstott but able to catch balls.

[DocHollidy]

my primary goal as FB is not to run, but block, but, with that said i feel that running and receiving is a MUST for me in order to impress coaches, and in college i'd like to be a legit receiving target and as a runner for 3rd and short and goal line situations.
our offense doesn't even run an I formation, but i'll ask the coach to add it(i'm sure he'll agree). pretty much a power runner, similiar to mike alstott but able to catch balls.

chances are you wont get the rock as a fullback anyway the game is changing and fullbacks are basically battering rams for running backs, and check-down receivers, so definetly work on your hands and blocking. Also make sure you check out the school's offense because a lot of schools are going to the spread and dont even use a fullback anymore

on that note, back to pit giving advice, not trying to hijack

[TheHitStick]

I am not sure, but by having a heavy deadlift it shows overall strength. That does not hold true for any other exercise.
I ran a 4.41, it took a lot of work. some workouts were just cater to running a faster 40. I had to do a lot of resistance 10 yard sprints. I also did many 60 yard sprints with a weight vest and parachute. I didn't actually run the 40 until combine and pro day workouts.

don't believe

thread is full of crap

[DriveMyWhey]

chances are you wont get the rock as a fullback anyway the game is changing and fullbacks are basically battering rams for running backs, and check-down receivers, so definetly work on your hands and blocking. Also make sure you check out the school's offense because a lot of schools are going to the spread and dont even use a fullback anymore

on that note, back to pit giving advice, not trying to hijack

exactly, that's why i said i want to be more of a blocker and a receiver since that's what todays fullbacks responsibilities are. on the contrary, college football is not the NFL, so they tend to keep old formations a little longer, and highschools even longer. obviously today's NFL NFL fullbacks are either hybrid or used exclusively for pass blocking, receiving and lead blocking. RARELY they are given to run the ball, but i've seen it even today(leron mcclain of baltimore ravens runs at least once a game).

[moose45]

What is the average size of a Middle linebacker who just came out of highschool? So...a freshman MLB.

[PitbullJR]

What is the average size of a Middle linebacker who just came out of highschool? So...a freshman MLB.

Well our MLB was huge but most LB's are in the 6'1 - 6'3 range 230-250

[watchandsee23]

I am not too sure if you are a running FB or would like to be but here are some universities that run the Wing T and Option attack:

Springfield University
Birmingham Southern of the SCAC
Cumberland College in Tennessee
Susquehanna University of Selingsgrove, PA
Salisbury University in MD run the Flexbone
Grove City Univ outside of Pittsburgh
Carnegie Mellon
Ohio Wesleyan
Endicott
If that is the d3 Birmingham Southern, they have converted to spread.

[mvp00]

any tips for a quarterback and also what the best way to improve speed

[butts33]

i play tight end at the d 1aa level and need help gaining weight. im 6'5 but i cant get over the 225 mark. i have 8% body fat and i would like to be up to about 245 next year. is there anything you would suggest taking as far as supplements or anything like that. i eat all the time and train and workout as a college athlete does. anything you could help me with is appreciated

[PitbullJR]

i play tight end at the d 1aa level and need help gaining weight. im 6'5 but i cant get over the 225 mark. i have 8% body fat and i would like to be up to about 245 next year. is there anything you would suggest taking as far as supplements or anything like that. i eat all the time and train and workout as a college athlete does. anything you could help me with is appreciated

Maybe think about purchasing a weight gainer man. I know it's hard to keep weight on. Right before camp starts I come in weighing 215 fast forward to the end of the season I am in the 190's.

[PitbullJR]

any tips for a quarterback and also what the best way to improve speed

I never played QB so I cant help you too much there man. In order to improve speed you have to improve on your running mechanics, work on your flexiblity, When running sprints add on resistance ( Sleds, bungee cords with a partner, weight vest). Overspeed trainning also helps and that is done by running down a hill.

[moose45]

Well our MLB was huge but most LB's are in the 6'1 - 6'3 range 230-250

Can you give me some goals to shoot for by the end of NEXT summer, if I want to play D2 football as a MLB? Goals for D1 would be nice to see too, but I want to get at least to D2.
Maybe for like:
40-
Squat-
Bench-
Vert-
And anything else you can think of...thanks if you can help me out. I'm not sure what to shoot for.

[PitbullJR]

Can you give me some goals to shoot for by the end of NEXT summer, if I want to play D2 football as a MLB? Goals for D1 would be nice to see too, but I want to get at least to D2.
Maybe for like:
40-
Squat-
Bench-
Vert-
And anything else you can think of...thanks if you can help me out. I'm not sure what to shoot for.

40- Anything 4.9 or lower
Squat- Doesn't Matter
Bench- Doesn't Matter
Vert- Doesn't Matter

This is what you should shoot for; become an animal on the field. Always hustle, perfect your technique and be a solid tackler. Play with a high intensity. By perfecting your technique and being a good tackler, you will earn a scholarship to some school.

[Ath88]

I'm not in football I do track but I'm just wondering what should you look for in a school when you are choosing? Also is it a better idea to go where most of the athlete are better than you are so you can learn from them?

[PitbullJR]

I'm not in football I do track but I'm just wondering what should you look for in a school when you are choosing? Also is it a better idea to go where most of the athlete are better than you are so you can learn from them?

You should look to see if the school has your major, the academic requirements, the cost if you are not going to be on scholly and the roster depth chart.
To answer your last statement you should go where you will get the best oppurtunity to play.

[mvp00]

I never played QB so I cant help you too much there man. In order to improve speed you have to improve on your running mechanics, work on your flexiblity, When running sprints add on resistance ( Sleds, bungee cords with a partner, weight vest). Overspeed trainning also helps and that is done by running down a hill.

so just run sprints with some resistance

[PitbullJR]

so just run sprints with some resistance

And the other things I mention. Work on running mechanics and flexibility

[kyle13613]

ask anything in terms of training, diet, school, family, what it takes to be successful..etc. I will attempt to help and to answer each question

hello I play JV in upstate NY. I'm a 6 foot 160 pound freshman. Idk stats. I started every game. I played tight end until our guard quit then finished up the season as that. I kinda sucked out relieving wise anyway. I want to start at fullback this season. i'm going to try to bulk up to 170-180 lean for next season any advise as far as routines or nutrition (i need to get faster too)

[PitbullJR]

hello I play JV in upstate NY. I'm a 6 foot 160 pound freshman. Idk stats. I started every game. I played tight end until our guard quit then finished up the season as that. I kinda sucked out relieving wise anyway. I want to start at fullback this season. i'm going to try to bulk up to 170-180 lean for next season any advise as far as routines or nutrition (i need to get faster too)

Just eat a lot of meat, veggies, fruits and pasta. There is no mystery to it. You are fairly young so your body will grow naturally. I am assuming your HS has a off-season program right? If so, just follow it and work hard.
To get faster work on flexibility, run sprints with weight vest, sleds or any type of resistance. Also work on your running mechanics. If you are serious about getting fast, do outdoor track in the spring.

[DriveMyWhey]

hello I play JV in upstate NY. I'm a 6 foot 160 pound freshman. Idk stats. I started every game. I played tight end until our guard quit then finished up the season as that. I kinda sucked out relieving wise anyway. I want to start at fullback this season. i'm going to try to bulk up to 170-180 lean for next season any advise as far as routines or nutrition (i need to get faster too)

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[templeusox]

How good is Trevard Lindley?

[Eaglepride03]

Hey, bro. I play running back/safety and I am about 5'8" and I weigh 150 pounds. I am also 15 years old and just got done playing my freshman season. I have a few questions:


1. Personally, I would like to be around 165 pounds by next football season. I would also like to run sub 4.78-sec. 40-yard dash, squat at least 290 pounds, and bench at least 175 pounds. In your opinion, what do you think are good statistics for a sophomore varsity running back?

2. What are the top three things that D1 colleges look for in high school running backs? Also, how can you work on them?

3. Finally, I love the game of football and I can't imagine giving it up. My dream is to play for a D1 school on a scholarship and eventually play professionally. How does it feel to finally give up something for which you have so much passion?

Thanks for your time, man.

[PitbullJR]

Hey, bro. I play running back/safety and I am about 5'8" and I weigh 150 pounds. I am also 15 years old and just got done playing my freshman season. I have a few questions:


1. Personally, I would like to be around 165 pounds by next football season. I would also like to run sub 4.78-sec. 40-yard dash, squat at least 290 pounds, and bench at least 175 pounds. In your opinion, what do you think are good statistics for a sophomore varsity running back?

2. What are the top three things that D1 colleges look for in high school running backs? Also, how can you work on them?

3. Finally, I love the game of football and I can't imagine giving it up. My dream is to play for a D1 school on a scholarship and eventually play professionally. How does it feel to finally give up something for which you have so much passion?

Thanks for your time, man.

1. In regards of stats in my opinion anything over 1000 yards is good.
2. Vision, speed, acceleration
3. I don't know because I haven't given it up.

[PitbullJR]

How good is Trevard Lindley?

He has improved a lot since when he first came here.

[maddenman003]

Hey man I'm in the same boat I'm wanting to move from o line to fb.. At least from an offensive player.. I also want to try and play linebacker.. Only I'm 5'9 190 ish but Im trying to play juco football here in Iowa... I torn my meniscus second game of my senior year and forced myself to comeback and play about end of the season but could only play guard.. I would love any advice you could give me.. Especially a good strength program?! Currently I bench 245 squat ? (still rehabing post surgery) I've deadlifted 405 and squatted 285 deep but haven't done either since injury...

[Geometrics]

Im thinking about going out for receiver next year what should I do bulk up ect. my frame is very lean and slender but Ive got good speed,big hands and I can jump high.I havnt played football since 8th grade so Im unaccustomed to getting hit but it wont take long to get that back at a high school level, what skills should I try to aquire/sharpen to be a successful receiver?

[PitbullJR]

Im thinking about going out for receiver next year what should I do bulk up ect. my frame is very lean and slender but Ive got good speed,big hands and I can jump high.I havnt played football since 8th grade so Im unaccustomed to getting hit but it wont take long to get that back at a high school level, what skills should I try to aquire/sharpen to be a successful receiver?

Route running and catching in traffic. As a ex RB, a WR block is crucial. They usually are the ones that dictate a 15 yard run or a 65 yard run. Work on your stalk blocks and blocking technique in general. I dont care if u bulk or lose weight, just get faster

[PitbullJR]

Hey man I'm in the same boat I'm wanting to move from o line to fb.. At least from an offensive player.. I also want to try and play linebacker.. Only I'm 5'9 190 ish but Im trying to play juco football here in Iowa... I torn my meniscus second game of my senior year and forced myself to comeback and play about end of the season but could only play guard.. I would love any advice you could give me.. Especially a good strength program?! Currently I bench 245 squat ? (still rehabing post surgery) I've deadlifted 405 and squatted 285 deep but haven't done either since injury...

I am very confused by your post.
Are you in a juco or plan to play juco next season?
Are u currently 190lbs and play OG? if so have you played FB or LB at all in your career?
How is your leg feeling now since playing on it before you should of?
In college you play 1 position, which one are you trying to play?

[KYmo]

ask anything in terms of training, diet, school, family, what it takes to be successful..etc. I will attempt to help and to answer each question

I've heard recruters really look for actificial stats like your 40 and bench press more than a highlight video. which is more important, or do you have any comments on that?

[maddenman003]

I'm currently in high school... Idk which I want to play basically whatever the coach wants me too I guess.. My knee I fine I jsut had surgery right before brake and am working it back into shape slowly... I'm just under 190 around 185-190.. And I've played linebacker/Dline and the oline but my last two years were at guard And linebacker I come from a small school where u basically play almost everything.. So I've moved around.

[Connelly1]

How much is height looked at for linebackers? I am 5'8" 170 lb. with 12% bf atm with like a 4.9 40. Pretty athletic, in the low 200's, squatting close to 300 atg, built like a linebacker, feel like I have all the physical atributes, and everything, but I feel like if your not 6' you can't get recruited as a LB. Should I continue to play LB like I am built for, or would I get recruited better as a safety/RB?

[Xapien]

What position should I talk my coach into playing? Last year I weighed around 210lbs and played DE, I ran a 4.9 at 210lbs. I cut to 180lbs For wrestling this year and now I'm alot leaner than I was and I feel alot faster. My lifts have gone up a good 20 pounds also. I played LB and SS my soph year. I just bulked up to play DE but I honestly hate DE. I'm really undersized. Should I try to play safety or LB which would give me a better chance for a scholarships oh and my stats as of now are
Bench- 280
Squat- 370
Clean 275
I haven't ran my 40 since last year. I would think it's better than 4.9 seeing how im 30 pounds lighter. Any suggestions?

[PitbullJR]

I've heard recruters really look for actificial stats like your 40 and bench press more than a highlight video. which is more important, or do you have any comments on that?

That's a lie. They offer scholarships based on your highlight tape unless you are very very fast. They do not care about a bench press

[PitbullJR]

How much is height looked at for linebackers? I am 5'8" 170 lb. with 12% bf atm with like a 4.9 40. Pretty athletic, in the low 200's, squatting close to 300 atg, built like a linebacker, feel like I have all the physical atributes, and everything, but I feel like if your not 6' you can't get recruited as a LB. Should I continue to play LB like I am built for, or would I get recruited better as a safety/RB?

If you are good at LB, then stay at LB. D-1A schools may not offer you because of it but I am sure d2, d3 schools would want you.

[PitbullJR]

What position should I talk my coach into playing? Last year I weighed around 210lbs and played DE, I ran a 4.9 at 210lbs. I cut to 180lbs For wrestling this year and now I'm alot leaner than I was and I feel alot faster. My lifts have gone up a good 20 pounds also. I played LB and SS my soph year. I just bulked up to play DE but I honestly hate DE. I'm really undersized. Should I try to play safety or LB which would give me a better chance for a scholarships oh and my stats as of now are
Bench- 280
Squat- 370
Clean 275
I haven't ran my 40 since last year. I would think it's better than 4.9 seeing how im 30 pounds lighter. Any suggestions?

Well it depends, have you ever played DB before? How is your footwork? I played DB at 215. Do you have tight hips? Do you know how to back pedal effectivley and break on the ball? If you have trouble doing the things I listed than you should play LB

[PitbullJR]

I'm currently in high school... Idk which I want to play basically whatever the coach wants me too I guess.. My knee I fine I jsut had surgery right before brake and am working it back into shape slowly... I'm just under 190 around 185-190.. And I've played linebacker/Dline and the oline but my last two years were at guard And linebacker I come from a small school where u basically play almost everything.. So I've moved around.

I understand. Which do you enjoy more and are better at?

[maddenman003]

Honestly idk I did alright for my first two games at linebacker bt I think I would excell at fb but tackling and playing defense is lots of fun so idk... What's a good program or some good advice cuz obviously I'm one of the weaker in this thread.. But one of the strongest in my grade... Advice?

[rechard_dupa]

okay I am a 21 year old that is going back to college and will be entering his sophmore year. I am 210 pounds and I have always been quick I just need to get back in shape physically I have a bit of a gut and I want to walk on as a running back I want to get a strength and conditioning coach before I go to try outs and make a fool of myself. I live in Houston Texas. what do I need to do, how often should i workout and should I get help doing it. If so do you know where?...i also have a membership to La Fitness

[PitbullJR]

okay I am a 21 year old that is going back to college and will be entering his sophmore year. I am 210 pounds and I have always been quick I just need to get back in shape physically I have a bit of a gut and I want to walk on as a running back I want to get a strength and conditioning coach before I go to try outs and make a fool of myself. I live in Houston Texas. what do I need to do, how often should i workout and should I get help doing it. If so do you know where?...i also have a membership to La Fitness

I am not familiar with trainers in houston, but yes hiring a trainer who works with athletes would not hurt you. You need to work on your speed and fundamentals. I think working out 3-4x a week would be sufficient. Which school do you plan on walking on to?

[Coty08]

I have a question. Did you have a dietitian to tell you what to eat? Also I am going to be a senior next year probably looking at going to a 1-AA school. I play linebacker and I was wondering how I can get to about 220 by the start of the season. I am 5'11 200-210 pounds with 25% bf. Also I want to get my 40 time down to around a 4.6

[PitbullJR]

I have a question. Did you have a dietitian to tell you what to eat? Also I am going to be a senior next year probably looking at going to a 1-AA school. I play linebacker and I was wondering how I can get to about 220 by the start of the season. I am 5'11 200-210 pounds with 25% bf. Also I want to get my 40 time down to around a 4.6

No I didn't have a dietitian. We had a team nutrionist that educated us on what we SHOULD eat, but that was about the extent of it. You can get up to 220 by lifting heavy and eating right. Eat a lot of red meat. In terms of getting your 40 down, work on your running mechanics and acceleration. To be honest, don't be too concerned about your 40.

[Coty08]

No I didn't have a dietitian. We had a team nutrionist that educated us on what we SHOULD eat, but that was about the extent of it. You can get up to 220 by lifting heavy and eating right. Eat a lot of red meat. In terms of getting your 40 down, work on your running mechanics and acceleration. To be honest, don't be too concerned about your 40.Okay thanks for the info. Another question I had was how much did you just from the time you got into working out with the team until the first game. What I mean is like weight, bench, squat, clean, 40. Things along those lines.

[PitbullJR]

Okay thanks for the info. Another question I had was how much did you just from the time you got into working out with the team until the first game. What I mean is like weight, bench, squat, clean, 40. Things along those lines.

Not too sure what you are asking?

[DoneDollar]

How do you think CIS football stacks up with NCAA ball? just curious

[GodsAngina]

Okay thanks for the info. Another question I had was how much did you just from the time you got into working out with the team until the first game. What I mean is like weight, bench, squat, clean, 40. Things along those lines.

Interesting that you have quite a good 40 and a bad vertical, I guess the two don't always go together, or is that 40 from before you got to 25% bf?

[KYmo]

That's a lie. They offer scholarships based on your highlight tape unless you are very very fast. They do not care about a bench press

thanks. and how beneficial would it be to go to NUC? this is my freshman year

[DocHollidy]

question... how much do you think body composition matters on the D-Line? For example should I carry more weight if I can keep speed to be able to take on blockers? Or just worry about speed and drop weight? I pretty much found out I will be playing a DE in a Multiple D set.. 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5

[PitbullJR]

How do you think CIS football stacks up with NCAA ball? just curious

What is CIS? I have only known about NAIA

[PitbullJR]

thanks. and how beneficial would it be to go to NUC? this is my freshman year

What is NUC?

[PitbullJR]

question... how much do you think body composition matters on the D-Line? For example should I carry more weight if I can keep speed to be able to take on blockers? Or just worry about speed and drop weight? I pretty much found out I will be playing a DE in a Multiple D set.. 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5

Well it depends on how fast you are to begin with. What weight do you plan to play at ? what weight would you be at if you decide to drop weight? DE tend to be leaner in general because most of them are speed rushers. From what I can remember you will be playing at a D-1AA school, the tackles you will be facing are fairly big. But if you answer the above questions I can give you a better answer.

[DocHollidy]

Well it depends on how fast you are to begin with. What weight do you plan to play at ? what weight would you be at if you decide to drop weight? DE tend to be leaner in general because most of them are speed rushers. From what I can remember you will be playing at a D-1AA school, the tackles you will be facing are fairly big. But if you answer the above questions I can give you a better answer.

I dunno what weight I wanna play at this is the biggest I've been 245-250 fluctuating, and I run around 4.85 on average, maybe 235 if I dropped weight probably, the last time I played I was 210 and ran a 4.55 lol so I've gotten slower but I've gained 40lbs, I'm trying to make it to the league, so I want to know from someone their what the best situation for me would be... I've worked out and played with a few guys that played in the AFL, and CFL and they said if I got my weight up I had potential to go far.. so I take it I needed to get my weight up and did

[KYmo]

What is NUC?

NUC= National underclassmen combine, its a recruiting combine/camp

nationalunderclassmen.com

[DocHollidy]

I guess I should also add that I had 10 sacks in like 6 games last year, and the 3 games I had 0 sacks, was because the two tackles I went up against were 6'3 330 (and he got drafted I believe and he played for the Toronto Argonauts I think) and the other was like 6'5 350+ I did well but didnt get any sacks.. it was semi pro (non-pay) so I'm still eligible in college

[PitbullJR]

I dunno what weight I wanna play at this is the biggest I've been 245-250 fluctuating, and I run around 4.85 on average, maybe 235 if I dropped weight probably, the last time I played I was 210 and ran a 4.55 lol so I've gotten slower but I've gained 40lbs, I'm trying to make it to the league, so I want to know from someone their what the best situation for me would be... I've worked out and played with a few guys that played in the AFL, and CFL and they said if I got my weight up I had potential to go far.. so I take it I needed to get my weight up and did

Your 40 time is good. In all honesty any weight between 240-250 will be fine for a person with your height.

[PitbullJR]

NUC= National underclassmen combine, its a recruiting combine/camp

nationalunderclassmen.com

Yes it would help. Go to all the combines and camps that you can. I wish I had these options when I was a freshmen in HS. Take full advantage of them

[WakeNBake]

Do you know of any good assistance execises for hang/power cleans

[LILpainLILgain]

how big and strong were you when you were 14

[PitbullJR]

Do you know of any good assistance execises for hang/power cleans

power shrugs, jump shrugs

[PitbullJR]

how big and strong were you when you were 14

at 14 I was in the 180's-190....about 5'9-5'10

[KYmo]

what did a typical O lineman at your school look like (height/weight), and what was an average bench, squat, 40 for them.

[FB4ME]

Ok, I'll bite...

... In highschool I had 1st/2nd team All-State awards my Jr and Sr years, and went State championship both years (won our SR year)... I graduated in 2004, I have been contacting a few coaches about walking on, most are giving me the typical "yeah ok, you can come out and if things dont work out, there's always the winter walk on and we can go from there" which doesnt really bother me, I didnt have high stats and weighed 150 lbs in highschool and even though I ran a legit 4.38 40 and had the awards I still didnt get any attention, so I'm used to being an underdog and having to prove myself. So, Im trying to get face to faces set-up with the coaches for when I get back from Iraq (currently deployed). Since the glorious United States government will be paying for my education (thanks for your tax dollars :P) the world is my oyster and I can throw football into the equation of where I decide to further my education. Do you have any advice as far as what to ask the coaches concerning walking on that would give ME a better understanding of the process for each school? And how do you suggest I "sell myself" to them before the try-outs? (IE film of combine tests or something? ... I am hesitant to send film from highschool because A) that was 5 years ago lol and B) i was not near as big or strong as I am now) Wow... longer than I intended sorry.

edit: the reason I want to be sure to get on the team for THIS season and not have to wait is due to eligibility status, I only have 3 years of D1 and 4 seasons of D2 left, and dont want to waste another year if I dont have too.

[Xapien]

Well it depends, have you ever played DB before? How is your footwork? I played DB at 215. Do you have tight hips? Do you know how to back pedal effectivley and break on the ball? If you have trouble doing the things I listed than you should play LB

I have yet to play DB but I have a whole year to learn. should I go for it my senior year?

[PitbullJR]

Ok, I'll bite...

... In highschool I had 1st/2nd team All-State awards my Jr and Sr years, and went State championship both years (won our SR year)... I graduated in 2004, I have been contacting a few coaches about walking on, most are giving me the typical "yeah ok, you can come out and if things dont work out, there's always the winter walk on and we can go from there" which doesnt really bother me, I didnt have high stats and weighed 150 lbs in highschool and even though I ran a legit 4.38 40 and had the awards I still didnt get any attention, so I'm used to being an underdog and having to prove myself. So, Im trying to get face to faces set-up with the coaches for when I get back from Iraq (currently deployed). Since the glorious United States government will be paying for my education (thanks for your tax dollars :P) the world is my oyster and I can throw football into the equation of where I decide to further my education. Do you have any advice as far as what to ask the coaches concerning walking on that would give ME a better understanding of the process for each school? And how do you suggest I "sell myself" to them before the try-outs? (IE film of combine tests or something? ... I am hesitant to send film from highschool because A) that was 5 years ago lol and B) i was not near as big or strong as I am now) Wow... longer than I intended sorry.

edit: the reason I want to be sure to get on the team for THIS season and not have to wait is due to eligibility status, I only have 3 years of D1 and 4 seasons of D2 left, and dont want to waste another year if I dont have too.


Which level do you want to play, once I know that I can give you a better answer

[PitbullJR]

what did a typical O lineman at your school look like (height/weight), and what was an average bench, squat, 40 for them.

typical OL size, 6'2- 6'6 280's- 320's
I don't know their lifts since I rarely ever lifted with them

[PitbullJR]

I have yet to play DB but I have a whole year to learn. should I go for it my senior year?

If it's something you want to do then yeah

[kyle13613]

Just eat a lot of meat, veggies, fruits and pasta. There is no mystery to it. You are fairly young so your body will grow naturally. I am assuming your HS has a off-season program right? If so, just follow it and work hard.
To get faster work on flexibility, run sprints with weight vest, sleds or any type of resistance. Also work on your running mechanics. If you are serious about getting fast, do outdoor track in the spring.

we don't have an off season program and our varsity coach is CLUELESS about weightlifting.We also don't have a track team so I play lacrosse. I think i might try ws4sb or prolly keep doing ripptoes since my 5rm's on squats barely a plate :-X

[Logical95]

So you are saying you did a lot of olympic lifts like squats, deads and power cleans? Did your program consist of any direct ab routines or core work? (besides the olympic lifts?)

Also, what were your supplements like? did you take whey, creatine, an NO supp? did the trainers let you take whatever supps you wanted?

[PitbullJR]

we don't have an off season program and our varsity coach is CLUELESS about weightlifting.We also don't have a track team so I play lacrosse. I think i might try ws4sb or prolly keep doing ripptoes since my 5rm's on squats barely a plate :-X

Yeah you are right, most HS coaches are clueless about weightlifting. Playing lacrosse is good. You sound like you are well on your way. Keeping working hard on and off the field

[PitbullJR]

So you are saying you did a lot of olympic lifts like squats, deads and power cleans? Did your program consist of any direct ab routines or core work? (besides the olympic lifts?)

Also, what were your supplements like? did you take whey, creatine, an NO supp? did the trainers let you take whatever supps you wanted?

We usually did a lot of medicine ball drills for our core. The trainers gave all of us a 5lb jug of Muscle Milk. That is the only supplement I took.

[Asparagus333]

How long and frequently do you guys train? What is the average bench press, squat, hang clean weight?

[PitbullJR]

How long and frequently do you guys train? What is the average bench press, squat, hang clean weight?

Off-season it's 3x a week. During summer its 4x a week. In season 2x a week. Each workout lasted about an hour. As mentioned I do not know the average bench, squat, hang clean because we lift according to class schedules. Some of my teammate I soley just saw them in meetings and on the field.

[Masstastic]

Wow man. I have a bunch of questions to ask you, you are like a God send to this site.

1. I come from a very athletic family but due to academics I was unable to play any sport during my 4 years in High School. Im likely going to be going to a Junior College for 1-2 years before enrolling at a 4 year university, although there is a chance I go to WVU. At this point I'm not in shape but not overweight, by beginning to train for the next 8 months, 3-5 days a week, do you think I'd be able to Walk On at a Junior College or 4 year University? Is it possible to Walk On at a 4 year university with limited football experience?

2. I have a RB build(built low to the ground) and have been told that if I were eligible for football at my High School, I'd be a pure Strong Safety. Is it possible to read up on the position to understand the role without having played the position? If so what were some of the best outlets to understand your position.

3. My life plan however is to coach football at the FBS level. How do you go about beginning into the coaching profession in order to move up the ladder to the D1 level?

[PitbullJR]

Wow man. I have a bunch of questions to ask you, you are like a God send to this site.

1. I come from a very athletic family but due to academics I was unable to play any sport during my 4 years in High School. Im likely going to be going to a Junior College for 1-2 years before enrolling at a 4 year university, although there is a chance I go to WVU. At this point I'm not in shape but not overweight, by beginning to train for the next 8 months, 3-5 days a week, do you think I'd be able to Walk On at a Junior College or 4 year University? Is it possible to Walk On at a 4 year university with limited football experience?

2. I have a RB build(built low to the ground) and have been told that if I were eligible for football at my High School, I'd be a pure Strong Safety. Is it possible to read up on the position to understand the role without having played the position? If so what were some of the best outlets to understand your position.


3. My life plan however is to coach football at the FBS level. How do you go about beginning into the coaching profession in order to move up the ladder to the D1 level?

1. It is very hard to walk-on at any level with limited football experience. I am not saying its impossible but nothing replaces experience. Yes you will be in excellent shape if you train for 8 months, that goes for any sport.

2. Read up on it will teach you fairly little due to the fact that you do not understand football terminology.
I will give you an example "Pitbull when we are in our base 4-2-5, I want you to play quarters but mirror number 3 if he stays in , drop to the deep 3rd possibly helping with number 2". The numbers I listed are not jersey numbers. This is how we identify passing threats as DB's. Your best option is to talk to people who have played and by being around the game. Help out at the pop warner level, your JV team...anything

3. Most coaches start as graduate assistants. You start small and from there it is usually your connections that get you to a big school. But you make those connections by going to coaching clinics, talking to people in your profession and usually the coach you are a GA for may make it big and hopefully he will bring you with him.

[Masstastic]

1. It is very hard to walk-on at any level with limited football experience. I am not saying its impossible but nothing replaces experience. Yes you will be in excellent shape if you train for 8 months, that goes for any sport.

2. Read up on it will teach you fairly little due to the fact that you do not understand football terminology.
I will give you an example "Pitbull when we are in our base 4-2-5, I want you to play quarters but mirror number 3 if he stays in , drop to the deep 3rd possibly helping with number 2". The numbers I listed are not jersey numbers. This is how we identify passing threats as DB's. Your best option is to talk to people who have played and by being around the game. Help out at the pop warner level, your JV team...anything

3. Most coaches start as graduate assistants. You start small and from there it is usually your connections that get you to a big school. But you make those connections by going to coaching clinics, talking to people in your profession and usually the coach you are a GA for may make it big and hopefully he will bring you with him.

Thanks for the info.

In your opinion what makes a football player better than others, you said you were released from your team so you obviously were not as good as the guys they had at DB or it was a numbers game. Either way what makes players who become Elite stand out from others? Do you think it is God-given natural ability that no matter how hard the average man trains they will never match that ability or do you believe that these Elite players mentally have an edge over everyone based on their desire & work ethic to be Elite?

Im not sure if you were a star or not at Kentucky, but I've always wondered what makes a guy emerge to become better than the rest. Guys like Andre Woodson, or Keenan Burton, or Micah Johnson.

[Coty08]

Interesting that you have quite a good 40 and a bad vertical, I guess the two don't always go together, or is that 40 from before you got to 25% bf?The 40 was timed before i tore my acl like a year ago. So that would be before my 25% bf.

[PitbullJR]

Thanks for the info.

In your opinion what makes a football player better than others, you said you were released from your team so you obviously were not as good as the guys they had at DB or it was a numbers game. Either way what makes players who become Elite stand out from others? Do you think it is God-given natural ability that no matter how hard the average man trains they will never match that ability or do you believe that these Elite players mentally have an edge over everyone based on their desire & work ethic to be Elite?

Im not sure if you were a star or not at Kentucky, but I've always wondered what makes a guy emerge to become better than the rest. Guys like Andre Woodson, or Keenan Burton, or Micah Johnson.

In the NFL it is always a numbers game not soo much your skill set. I was released due to injury. It's your mental toughness which make certain athletes "elite". There is a limit on your speed, power and quickness. There is but so many ways you can train the body.
There is no limit on how hard you are willing to achieve something you want. There is no limit on focus and determination. There is no limit on faith. Nobody is born elite, I don't care how much natural talent you have. Yes, somethings may be easier for person A than to person B but we all are meant to do different things on this earth.

Now your perception on what a "star" is open to debate. Although dre, keenan and Micah are solid football players, my opinion on them is different than yours. Keenan was not the best WR on our team. Andre had one great season and Micah is just huge to put it in simple terms. So saying they are better than the rest, I do not quite agree with. But I will tell you this, there are a ton of football players on scholarships who are not good.

[PitbullJR]

The 40 was timed before i tore my acl like a year ago. So that would be before my 25% bf.

How is your knee feeling

[txapn]

Man that's an awesome question (not to but in) but a lot of people have different ideas on that and I think it's the desire, work ethic, and mental tuffness that makes a player stand out as "elite" to me!

I know and have experienced the college level ball and some of the guys I played against were amazing athletes so YES god givin gifts help a lot and surely separates a lot of players! And genetics has its place but man coming from Miami I had the opportunity to talk to many pro football players, and not just professionals but some hall of fame players and future HOFers. And the one thing I had noticed was the mind set they all had! Its something some will say comes with experience and some will say its just the desire not fail! But they all have this incredible "love" (you can say) for the game this passionate outlook on it, to where they just refuse to lose and it translates to the off the field activities (weight room /practice field/ film)

Just my opinion on the subject! From what I've seen with my eyes!

[Masstastic]

In the NFL it is always a numbers game not soo much your skill set. I was released due to injury. It's your mental toughness which make certain athletes "elite". There is a limit on your speed, power and quickness. There is but so many ways you can train the body.
There is no limit on how hard you are willing to achieve something you want. There is no limit on focus and determination. There is no limit on faith. Nobody is born elite, I don't care how much natural talent you have. Yes, somethings may be easier for person A than to person B but we all are meant to do different things on this earth.

Now your perception on what a "star" is open to debate. Although dre, keenan and Micah are solid football players, my opinion on them is different than yours. Keenan was not the best WR on our team. Andre had one great season and Micah is just huge to put it in simple terms. So saying they are better than the rest, I do not quite agree with. But I will tell you this, there are a ton of football players on scholarships who are not good.

Thanks man.

I always wondered how that worked out. On the same topic.

You as a player, what seperates you from being a Charles Woodson or Ed Reed type of player in the NFL? What specific skills do you feel that you need to get better at heading into OTA's to put yourself in the position to become one of the best at your position?

[PitbullJR]

Thanks man.

I always wondered how that worked out. On the same topic.

You as a player, what seperates you from being a Charles Woodson or Ed Reed type of player in the NFL? What specific skills do you feel that you need to get better at heading into OTA's to put yourself in the position to become one of the best at your position?

Nothing seperates me from being a Woodson or Ed Reed type of player. I just have to do it. They have been doing it for years and that in it's self is a big-time accomplisment. I mean im already injured, they have been ballin 8yrs+ without big time significant set-backs. My respect towards them are very high.
Once I learn the defensive schemes than I am good to go. It sounds strange but you have to play football without thinking, just pure reaction; that can't be done if you are not 100% certain in your assignments. This is the reason when you watch Hard Knocks you see so many players who were good in college mess up so much.

[Masstastic]

Nothing seperates me from being a Woodson or Ed Reed type of player. I just have to do it. They have been doing it for years and that in it's self is a big-time accomplisment. I mean im already injured, they have been ballin 8yrs+ without big time significant set-backs. My respect towards them are very high.
Once I learn the defensive schemes than I am good to go. It sounds strange but you have to play football without thinking, just pure reaction; that can't be done if you are not 100% certain in your assignments. This is the reason when you watch Hard Knocks you see so many players who were good in college mess up so much.

Ok I see what you're saying. So when you return in OTA's will you choose the team you were in camp with because you already have familiarity with the scheme they used or do you prefer to go to another team?

btw what injury did you suffer? Musta been serious to get an injury settlement/release due to it.

[PitbullJR]

Ok I see what you're saying. So when you return in OTA's will you choose the team you were in camp with because you already have familiarity with the scheme they used or do you prefer to go to another team?

btw what injury did you suffer? Musta been serious to get an injury settlement/release due to it.

You the saying "beggers can't be choosers"....so whatever my agent works out man, I will be very happy. I tore my ACL, LCL, Meniscus. But I will keep everyone updated on my progress later. I am here to help the young boys trying to make it or have questions on how to make it. It's all about helping others and spreading your knowledge around

[kyle13613]

Yeah you are right, most HS coaches are clueless about weightlifting. Playing lacrosse is good. You sound like you are well on your way. Keeping working hard on and off the field

if someone had relatively low numbers but was also on the skinny side would WS4SB3 be better since it has more hypertrophy/ volume OR should you just go on starting strength (already lifted for a few months and ripptoes is getting Blah)

[aStRoRdInArY]

I have a quick question. Assuming that i am fast enough, strong enough, and have the right skills to play college football at the tailback position, do i have to right size if i am 5'9" 190 pounds? Because right now I am 16 and 5'8' 165 pounds, and i am on a lifting routine and eating the right stuff and drinking protein drinks. So i think by my next year(senior year) i will be roughly 5'9" 180-190 pounds.

[PitbullJR]

if someone had relatively low numbers but was also on the skinny side would WS4SB3 be better since it has more hypertrophy/ volume OR should you just go on starting strength (already lifted for a few months and ripptoes is getting Blah)

I am not familiar with those weight lifting programs since I just followed what our S&C coach had on the sheets. My advice is to start a program where you have to follow percentages for 10 weeks. Once you find your max in the bench, dl, squat, cleans than you can move up in weight without trying to figure things out so much.
I see everyone talking about these two programs so I figure they must be pretty generic.

[PitbullJR]

I have a quick question. Assuming that i am fast enough, strong enough, and have the right skills to play college football at the tailback position, do i have to right size if i am 5'9" 190 pounds? Because right now I am 16 and 5'8' 165 pounds, and i am on a lifting routine and eating the right stuff and drinking protein drinks. So i think by my next year(senior year) i will be roughly 5'9" 180-190 pounds.

avg size of RB's 5'9- 5'11, 210- 235

If you enter college at 190 you will def graduate being 205 and above. Which means you fall right into the average.

[aStRoRdInArY]

K. Thanks man

[PitbullJR]

K. Thanks man

No doubt my man..Do your thing next season

[punkforlife93]

Out of curiosity, which NFL team did you get drafted by? I know that you made the practice squad (and sucks you got cut, btw) but that's a really tight experience, I'm sure. Dreamlike, even. If it's too personal, just PM me, or say it's too personal...I'm just curious, hehe.

[PitbullJR]

Out of curiosity, which NFL team did you get drafted by? I know that you made the practice squad (and sucks you got cut, btw) but that's a really tight experience, I'm sure. Dreamlike, even. If it's too personal, just PM me, or say it's too personal...I'm just curious, hehe.

Rather not say, its not important since Im currently not on the team.

[punkforlife93]

No worries, I understand.

[Coty08]

How is your knee feelingIt is fine now. Some swelling during the season but im sure thats normal.

[Coty08]

What did your diet look like in college? What would you say was the biggest difference between high school football besides the obvious. Also if you don't mind telling, what was your story like how did you make it to D1 ball.

[mvp00]

Not really getting any letters except from d3 should i make contact with the d1 schools by emailing there coaches i hoping to get some d1 looks

[JNApp51]

Hello! I am coming to the end of my senior year and I recently decieded that I wanted to play football for the NAIA school Carroll College in Montana, I live in Montana so it isn't that far away. My last year wasn't very impressive and I played D end and Offensive Guard at a small school here in MT. I am planning on playing linebacker at Carroll, and I have accepted the fact that I probably won't get a scholarship for football but I plan on walking on and kicking ass as best as I can. But I was wondering what would be the best lifting program to get stronger and faster?

Bench-215
Squat-365
Clean-185 (Honestly I can't clean more than that)
Deadlift-385
My 40 yard dash was hand timed but I was one of the faster kids and my guess is that it is inbetween a 4.85-5.00

Any help you or anyone else could give would be great.

[PitbullJR]

What did your diet look like in college? What would you say was the biggest difference between high school football besides the obvious. Also if you don't mind telling, what was your story like how did you make it to D1 ball.

I was eating regular to be honest. I ate what was at the training table. When it was late we would order pizza.
The biggest difference between HS and college is that you must be fundamentally sound in order to perform well. In HS you can run for 2000 yards and have 10 interceptions simply because you was just that much better. In some cases technique was not even needed. In college if I have to take on a pulling guard from LSU and my technique is off than my a$$ is getting laid out; not soo much in HS.
I was a All-State RB and made All-City and All-County teams as a DB.
I come from a big family and many of my relatives played D-1 ball. My game film went to all schools, from Wyoming to Florida. Most offered scholarships and some did not. My DT also went Iowa my same year.

[PitbullJR]

Not really getting any letters except from d3 should i make contact with the d1 schools by emailing there coaches i hoping to get some d1 looks

Calling them is better

[PitbullJR]

Hello! I am coming to the end of my senior year and I recently decieded that I wanted to play football for the NAIA school Carroll College in Montana, I live in Montana so it isn't that far away. My last year wasn't very impressive and I played D end and Offensive Guard at a small school here in MT. I am planning on playing linebacker at Carroll, and I have accepted the fact that I probably won't get a scholarship for football but I plan on walking on and kicking ass as best as I can. But I was wondering what would be the best lifting program to get stronger and faster?

Bench-215
Squat-365
Clean-185 (Honestly I can't clean more than that)
Deadlift-385
My 40 yard dash was hand timed but I was one of the faster kids and my guess is that it is inbetween a 4.85-5.00

Any help you or anyone else could give would be great.

There is a thread sticky in this section which has many different universities work-out templates. Pick which one you like best and perform each workout with high intensity. They also come with a conditioning, speed and agility plan.

[DriveMyWhey]

how much bodyfat do you think that a fullback can get away with? a one that should be able to block, power run, pass block and receive, in that order.
D1 level.

[jeepbrah1]

k i got a couple questions.

how long where you in the nfl for
how much money have you made from the nfl
did you have any endorsments
how much pussy did you get in college did you get more in college then the nfl
is its mostly white girls that try to bang you
And im asking this for my brother what does he need to know in order to play defensive end in college.

[tpage80]

where did you go to school?

[mexanacho]

Hey i know your a football player and all but i figured you might have some insight on the baseball team at the college you played at? I was just wondering if you knew how their lifts and stats look? I'm a soph at high school right now and im about 5 8 165 lbs. I bench press about 195 for one rep and can do 170 for reps of 5. I can squat about 170 but dont really do that too much because im kinda scared to hahah (no pu$$y) and i can deadlift about 225 for 5 reps and havent really seen how much i can do for one. My shoulder press is 55 lb dumbells for 5 reps. WAs just wondering how much d1 baseball players lifted on avergae if you have any idea. Thanks in advance man

[PitbullJR]

k i got a couple questions.

how long where you in the nfl for
how much money have you made from the nfl
did you have any endorsments
how much pussy did you get in college did you get more in college then the nfl
is its mostly white girls that try to bang you
And im asking this for my brother what does he need to know in order to play defensive end in college.

1 yr
I have made over 6 figures
No
I had my fun until junior year then I got with my girl. I am still with her.
It is mostly white girls because they are the majority in college. But all races have their groupies.
In order to play D-End in college, he needs to be fast, play with a motor, strong and know how to tackle.

[PitbullJR]

where did you go to school?

Univ Kentucky

[PitbullJR]

how much bodyfat do you think that a fullback can get away with? a one that should be able to block, power run, pass block and receive, in that order.
D1 level.

Doesn't matter if they can block and can catch them flat routes.

[PitbullJR]

Hey i know your a football player and all but i figured you might have some insight on the baseball team at the college you played at? I was just wondering if you knew how their lifts and stats look? I'm a soph at high school right now and im about 5 8 165 lbs. I bench press about 195 for one rep and can do 170 for reps of 5. I can squat about 170 but dont really do that too much because im kinda scared to hahah (no pu$$y) and i can deadlift about 225 for 5 reps and havent really seen how much i can do for one. My shoulder press is 55 lb dumbells for 5 reps. WAs just wondering how much d1 baseball players lifted on avergae if you have any idea. Thanks in advance man

Sorry my man, I don't have a clue

[jeepbrah1]

did you get alot of playing time in the nfl and are teams looking to sign you for next season right now

[PitbullJR]

did you get alot of playing time in the nfl and are teams looking to sign you for next season right now

Got no playing time, I was injured. I have some things in the works

[FB4ME]

Which level do you want to play, once I know that I can give you a better answer

I'm really looking to play at one of the top level D2 schools... ones that would be in the mix for the national championship at that level.

[PitbullJR]

I'm really looking to play at one of the top level D2 schools... ones that would be in the mix for the national championship at that level.

Well, you haven't played since 2004 ? and that was at the HS level? Since you want to play at a elite D2 school then it's going to be rough. I say this because they offer scholarships. Just explain to the coaches how much you love the sport and want to contribute to the team in any fashion. My best advice is to try-out during spring football. Coaches don't really give walk-on's a chance during fall camp unless you were a preferred walk-on. By walking on in the spring you will get familiar with the offensive/defensive schemes and it gives your body time to adapt back to football.

[FB4ME]

i would have to be enrolled to tryout int he spring yes?

[PitbullJR]

i would have to be enrolled to tryout int he spring yes?

yeah

[Species2131]

Do the coaches even really care about the players outside of football?

[PitbullJR]

Do the coaches even really care about the players outside of football?

And this is what players don't understand......they really don't bruh. You may find one coach your whole career who genuine cares about you. It is a business and as bad as it sounds, you are just a jersey number. You see what Brian Kelly did and countless others. It is just a business. Football is not really even that fun after HS.

[WS4SBFANATIC]

Idk if you have already said this, but what program (liftin wise) worked out the best for you?

[mickyb55]

It is a business and as bad as it sounds, you are just a jersey number.

Well said.

I played D1 in the SEC many moons ago. I was highly recruited out of high school and was completely turned off by all of the politics. I went to a place that I naively thought was going to be different. I played for 2 years, starting guard. I got into a very bad car accident and had my life turned completely upside down. During the first month I was in the hospital, I had my coaches and trainers visiting me pretty consistently. After that, they realized my career was done and they pretty much were done with me. I was a kid and at the time, I really thought they cared about me. I was so naive.

I coach high school football now and will NEVER treat my kids with anything other than respect, assuming they do the same to me. I've been offered a low level college coaching spot but I do not want to go past the high school level. Too much politics.

Pitbull - you made a comment that football isn't fun beyond HS. I never got the chance to play in the pros but I will tell you that my 2 years in college were the most fun I had in football. Times have changed so maybe that has changed too. That would just be sad.

[Logical95]

Pitbull,

It would be cool if you could tell us more abuot your routine in college......was it just squats, bench, deads and cleans? Did you and the team have max out days at all? If so, how often?

Did you do any type of isolation exercises?

What were set and rep ranges like? 5x5? 3x5?

And lastly, how is training/weight room in the NFL different from college? I heard in the NFL they dont go crazy in the weight room or max out bc they want to avoid injury....I also heard they are moving away from weights somewhat and doing more stuff with bands and med balls?....

[punkforlife93]

A few questions - you've helped me out a ton already, but I'm determined as hell itself to get my goal accomplished, and walking on is really hard as it is, so I need all the help I can get.

1) What's a good speed for the 40? I know that I'm right about average at just under 5 seconds, so I'd like to get to a better, more standout speed for a wide reciever, or maybe tight end.

2) Speaking of which, I can't decide for the LIFE of me which position to play. I love being Wide Reciever and Tight End both, but I'm not sure how well I'll do blocking the linebackers in college-level ball - I mean, in all honesty, 220 is going to be hard for my current weight, and most OLBs are 250 and higher. But I love both positions...and even CB, as I played that my first year. I'd have to work on multitasking, though...

3) Collarbone injuries - they seem to happen very frequently at a young age like mine, but would it be likely to happen again? I doubt it, as I had a pretty big fracture and now the bone looks even thicker there, but still.

4) Injuries in general - how would I go about preventing them in the most effective way? Is it best to just pack on muscle, or is it all flexibility? Durability and flexibility tend to go hand in hand, I hear.

[bigmike93]

how did you get recruited?like did you send letters out to colleges?

[jmd92]

I'm just kind of curious, how big of a role do you think walk-ons played for your team?

I was thinking about walking on to the University of Toledo, because I think I could do some good, and I just really love the sport.

[Coty08]

I am looking at playing linebacker in college. What do you think the biggest thing that I need to work on is. Also you said that you only took muscle milk your entire college career. Would you recommend it?

[txapn]

Well said.



Pitbull - you made a comment that football isn't fun beyond HS. I never got the chance to play in the pros but I will tell you that my 2 years in college were the most fun I had in football. Times have changed so maybe that has changed too. That would just be sad.

i agree, my 5 yrs were a blast. but then again i was in an area were everything is a blast so...

[PitbullJR]

Well said.

I played D1 in the SEC many moons ago. I was highly recruited out of high school and was completely turned off by all of the politics. I went to a place that I naively thought was going to be different. I played for 2 years, starting guard. I got into a very bad car accident and had my life turned completely upside down. During the first month I was in the hospital, I had my coaches and trainers visiting me pretty consistently. After that, they realized my career was done and they pretty much were done with me. I was a kid and at the time, I really thought they cared about me. I was so naive.

I coach high school football now and will NEVER treat my kids with anything other than respect, assuming they do the same to me. I've been offered a low level college coaching spot but I do not want to go past the high school level. Too much politics.

Pitbull - you made a comment that football isn't fun beyond HS. I never got the chance to play in the pros but I will tell you that my 2 years in college were the most fun I had in football. Times have changed so maybe that has changed too. That would just be sad.

We had a lot of players who were there just to be there. That is tough being around when you yourself play the game with all your heart. Losing is not fun and when it happens you are suppose to feel bad about it. Well on my team there were only about two handful of us who cared.

[PitbullJR]

Pitbull,

It would be cool if you could tell us more abuot your routine in college......was it just squats, bench, deads and cleans? Did you and the team have max out days at all? If so, how often?

Did you do any type of isolation exercises?

What were set and rep ranges like? 5x5? 3x5?

And lastly, how is training/weight room in the NFL different from college? I heard in the NFL they dont go crazy in the weight room or max out bc they want to avoid injury....I also heard they are moving away from weights somewhat and doing more stuff with bands and med balls?....

We did the regular, just add in more Olympic lifts. We usually maxed out during the end of summer conditioning and the end of winter conditioning. The set and rep ranges changed frequently. Some days we would do 10x2 of squats. We usually lifted heavy for low reps, I cant remember doing 12 reps of anything unless it was for bicep curls which were optional.
NFL and College weight rooms are the same. Yes, you are correct there is not too much heavy lifting anymore in the league, well at least where I was. It is too much pressure on the joints. We do a lot of kettle bells exercises.

[PitbullJR]

A few questions - you've helped me out a ton already, but I'm determined as hell itself to get my goal accomplished, and walking on is really hard as it is, so I need all the help I can get.

1) What's a good speed for the 40? I know that I'm right about average at just under 5 seconds, so I'd like to get to a better, more standout speed for a wide reciever, or maybe tight end.

2) Speaking of which, I can't decide for the LIFE of me which position to play. I love being Wide Reciever and Tight End both, but I'm not sure how well I'll do blocking the linebackers in college-level ball - I mean, in all honesty, 220 is going to be hard for my current weight, and most OLBs are 250 and higher. But I love both positions...and even CB, as I played that my first year. I'd have to work on multitasking, though...

3) Collarbone injuries - they seem to happen very frequently at a young age like mine, but would it be likely to happen again? I doubt it, as I had a pretty big fracture and now the bone looks even thicker there, but still.

4) Injuries in general - how would I go about preventing them in the most effective way? Is it best to just pack on muscle, or is it all flexibility? Durability and flexibility tend to go hand in hand, I hear.

It is hard for me to try to give you advice if you are not sure which position you are going to try-out for. In order to prevent/lessen injuries you must work on your flexibility. When you decide which position I can better attempt to help you.

[PitbullJR]

how did you get recruited?like did you send letters out to colleges?

A tape of my two best games and highlights was sent out with a letter listing my accomplishments.

[PitbullJR]

I'm just kind of curious, how big of a role do you think walk-ons played for your team?

I was thinking about walking on to the University of Toledo, because I think I could do some good, and I just really love the sport.

They didn't play any role on my team. If you love the sport than walk-on and give it your best. Hope it works out for you.

[PitbullJR]

I am looking at playing linebacker in college. What do you think the biggest thing that I need to work on is. Also you said that you only took muscle milk your entire college career. Would you recommend it?

Yes, I would recommend Muscle Milk. Work on your technique and be effective at shedding blocks. Speed is important, the faster you are the more likely you will play due to the fact that you can cover RB's. This goes without saying, you must be a good tackler.

[mvp00]

Calling them is better

alright but i'm gonna email some first. Is it possible u think to get on the radar if i havent heard anything from any d1

[PitbullJR]

alright but i'm gonna email some first. Is it possibly u think to get on the radar if i havent heard anything from any d1

The only way you are going to get on the radar is by sending out your film. If they like it, they will call you back

[mvp00]

i dont have a flim but i got a few highlights like 4

[Species2131]

When you're on scholarship do you get spending money to buy clothes and things like that?

[PitbullJR]

When you're on scholarship do you get spending money to buy clothes and things like that?

lol nah. We get money to pay rent and whatever is left over you can do whatever you want with it

[svillasenor]

When you're on scholarship do you get spending money to buy clothes and things like that?

Actually yes, I played at Nevada, and the Western Athletic Conference would allow us up to $500 for clothes, as well as being reimbursed for medical, and other goods. But you had to be on pell grant was well. But it was a cool incentive in addition to the monthly stipends from scholarship.

[PitbullJR]

Actually yes, I played at Nevada, and the Western Athletic Conference would allow us up to $500 for clothes, as well as being reimbursed for medical, and other goods. But you had to be on pell grant was well. But it was a cool incentive in addition to the monthly stipends from scholarship.

I never heard of that. I jus talked to Vai from UNR and asked him, they must have changed that rule. Reimbursed for medical? Who knows.

[mickyb55]

We had a lot of players who were there just to be there. That is tough being around when you yourself play the game with all your heart. Losing is not fun and when it happens you are suppose to feel bad about it. Well on my team there were only about two handful of us who cared.

That is unfortunate. When I played, the passion from both my teammates and coaches always seemed to be there. Now, this is going back 30 years so maybe my memories are cloudy but I never got the sense that there was anyone in the locker room who didn't care. Good luck to you in whatever the future holds. I wish you the best.

[Ath88]

Hey thanks for making this thread I really learned a lot. By the way congratulations on all your accomplishments and I hope to see you on Monday night football someday. Goodluck man!

[Nerrg]

I tore my meniscus a few weeks ago, went to the doctor twice, got my MRI and after getting a second opinion this week I'm probably getting surgery sometime this month, and since you had the same injury I saw curious how you've recovered, how long it took until you could start doing lower body work again and if your knee is 100%. The doctor I went to before wasn't very clear about how it would be after surgery so if you could talk about your experience with the injury it'd be great.

[PitbullJR]

I tore my meniscus a few weeks ago, went to the doctor twice, got my MRI and after getting a second opinion this week I'm probably getting surgery sometime this month, and since you had the same injury I saw curious how you've recovered, how long it took until you could start doing lower body work again and if your knee is 100%. The doctor I went to before wasn't very clear about how it would be after surgery so if you could talk about your experience with the injury it'd be great.

Mine was more severe since I tore my ACL and LCL along with the meniscus. Your recovery will be different from mine. I am still not 100% and its been over a year, I am getting close though.

[PitbullJR]

That is unfortunate. When I played, the passion from both my teammates and coaches always seemed to be there. Now, this is going back 30 years so maybe my memories are cloudy but I never got the sense that there was anyone in the locker room who didn't care. Good luck to you in whatever the future holds. I wish you the best.

Thanks for the kind words. The generation I am in is the "All about self" era which is unfortunate.

[GodsAngina]

Are you gonna go back into NFL?

[PitbullJR]

Are you gonna go back into NFL?

That's the goal

[GodsAngina]

That's the goal

Good luck man.

[mickyb55]

Thanks for the kind words. The generation I am in is the "All about self" era which is unfortunate.

I notice some of that with some of my high school kids. For the most part, they are good kids and we don't put up with any of that BS. I think many of these kids feel they are doing us all a favor by playing football for us where as in my day, we felt lucky to be on a team.

[FB4ME]

For those of us who are planning on walking on to college teams, in your OPINION (because i know there is no right or wrong answer) what are the top 3 field agility drills you could do to prepare? IE, L-Drills, Pro Shuttles, etc...

[Jesse7771]

Im a freshman in a jc atm without a football program going to transfer to a uni next year, i was wondering if I had a snowballs chance in hell at walkin on to like a d2 team? In hs I played dline but was second string and not very good but seince then Ive totally changed myself phyisically and was wondering what positions I could do at 180-200 lbs? That will probably be my weight rng by next season. 182 6 foot 9% bf. my lifts probably are a little weak as I recently maxed 275 bench 375 squat and dead lift maxing tomorrow hopefully 375+. I dont have a 40 time (I know I have considerably more speed than any one I race against but their mostly highschool athletes) atm ive done alot of long distance training and alot of sprint training for the last year straight. Atm if I haul ass I can probably make a 25-30 min 5 mile run time, and if I carb correctly I can do a full marathon. So I know I have at least decent endurance. You think I can do it? And do you know a good place to get 40 timed?

[Jesse7771]

Oh and do you know any good ways to see how agile I am?

[mvp00]

i dont know if anyone has asked yet but what is a college practice like

[PitbullJR]

For those of us who are planning on walking on to college teams, in your OPINION (because i know there is no right or wrong answer) what are the top 3 field agility drills you could do to prepare? IE, L-Drills, Pro Shuttles, etc...

Do you mean in general? or for testing purposes?

[PitbullJR]

Im a freshman in a jc atm without a football program going to transfer to a uni next year, i was wondering if I had a snowballs chance in hell at walkin on to like a d2 team? In hs I played dline but was second string and not very good but seince then Ive totally changed myself phyisically and was wondering what positions I could do at 180-200 lbs? That will probably be my weight rng by next season. 182 6 foot 9% bf. my lifts probably are a little weak as I recently maxed 275 bench 375 squat and dead lift maxing tomorrow hopefully 375+. I dont have a 40 time (I know I have considerably more speed than any one I race against but their mostly highschool athletes) atm ive done alot of long distance training and alot of sprint training for the last year straight. Atm if I haul ass I can probably make a 25-30 min 5 mile run time, and if I carb correctly I can do a full marathon. So I know I have at least decent endurance. You think I can do it? And do you know a good place to get 40 timed?

Your lifting stats don't matter at all kid. The only thing that is important is your skill set. It is very hard for me to answer your question due to the fact I have never seen you play and you also stated that you are not that good. Only you can chose what position you want to try out for. Once you do that, I can suggest which drills you should do and what a college coach will expect from you. Ask a coach to time you in the 40. I know you don't have a football team but a track coach may be able to help you. If you feel uncomfortable asking them have one of your friends time you.

[txapn]

i dont have a flim but i got a few highlights like 4

you need a highlight tape and 1 full game! if they like the highlights then they watch the full game!

[PitbullJR]

i dont know if anyone has asked yet but what is a college practice like


Specials are returning kicks and punts
team warm-up/ stretch
Drills with our position coach
Teach period, where we are learning new plays as a unit
Inside run period
7 on 7
Team period
Situational period
Conditioning
Meetings/ lifting in the afternoon

[PitbullJR]

you need a highlight tape and 1 full game! if they like the highlights then they watch the full game!

When USC recruited me they wanted a highlight and 5 full games. The bigger the school the more they want to see

[txapn]

When USC recruited me they wanted a highlight and 5 full games. The bigger the school the more they want to see

YEAH it varys i sent highlights and 1 full tape to miami and TX but ive heard some schools want a few more

[Dennis71]

im trying to play somewhere D3


in high school i was 270
now im 195

since i played Oline i high school, and my only film is me playing Oline. Will that steer a coach away from me because I dont have a SET position to play?

[punkforlife93]

It is hard for me to try to give you advice if you are not sure which position you are going to try-out for. In order to prevent/lessen injuries you must work on your flexibility. When you decide which position I can better attempt to help you.

I've been thinking about it, and I'm almost positive that I'd like to try out for Wide Receiver. I definitely have the height for it, and I had the best catch rate on my high school football team out of anyone starting, and 2nd most on the team. My coaches always complimented me on using my body to get in front of the ball as well, since I have long arms and can really get up there.

The big things for me are improving my vertical/horizontal jump, stamina and speed. I would like to be able to jump at least 30", as that seems to be the standard of good wide receivers, and I'm at about 18" right now. At least 9'0 horizontal, as well - I'm about 7'8 at the moment. Stamina-wise, I'm not great - I can run a mile in just under 7 minutes. My 40 speed is hovering around 5 as well, the best that I got was 4.96, and that was in football season. So all of those areas need definite improving. I'd like to do a mile in under 6 minutes, as well as run under a 4.6 40, even though I'm sure that'll be really difficult. I don't know about my agility - I run a 5 second 20 shuttle. That's about all I know. I make good cuts.

Let's see...my body fat is under 12%, and I want to be a bit stronger than I am now. I've honest to God never lifted weights in my life consistently, just screwing around for fun mainly, but I'm going to try to get in the habit of lifting.

So, do you have any advice? It's a helluva lot to take in, but I'm determined to make changes with myself for the better.

[PitbullJR]

im trying to play somewhere D3


in high school i was 270
now im 195

since i played Oline i high school, and my only film is me playing Oline. Will that steer a coach away from me because I dont have a SET position to play?

No, because of the level you would be playing at. At least you played football before. Just find a position you want to play and work at it. Their are people on the DL at some d3 schools who are 215-220. You can also play LB, FB, H-BACK (depending on the offense). You know the game so you should adjust fairly easy.

[PitbullJR]

I've been thinking about it, and I'm almost positive that I'd like to try out for Wide Receiver. I definitely have the height for it, and I had the best catch rate on my high school football team out of anyone starting, and 2nd most on the team. My coaches always complimented me on using my body to get in front of the ball as well, since I have long arms and can really get up there.

The big things for me are improving my vertical/horizontal jump, stamina and speed. I would like to be able to jump at least 30", as that seems to be the standard of good wide receivers, and I'm at about 18" right now. At least 9'0 horizontal, as well - I'm about 7'8 at the moment. Stamina-wise, I'm not great - I can run a mile in just under 7 minutes. My 40 speed is hovering around 5 as well, the best that I got was 4.96, and that was in football season. So all of those areas need definite improving. I'd like to do a mile in under 6 minutes, as well as run under a 4.6 40, even though I'm sure that'll be really difficult. I don't know about my agility - I run a 5 second 20 shuttle. That's about all I know. I make good cuts.

Let's see...my body fat is under 12%, and I want to be a bit stronger than I am now. I've honest to God never lifted weights in my life consistently, just screwing around for fun mainly, but I'm going to try to get in the habit of lifting.

So, do you have any advice? It's a helluva lot to take in, but I'm determined to make changes with myself for the better.

You have a long road ahead of you. I am going to be as honest as possible. You want to be a D-1A WR.
Currently these are you stats;
40 time- 5.0 flat, probably 5.2 when timed electronically
18 inch vertical
20 yard shuttle- 5.0 ( same as your 40 time)
Never seriously lifted weights.

I was a D-1A DB
40 time- 4.4
36 inch vertical
20 yard shuttle- 4.21
Lifted weights and ran 365 days a year

Don't get discouraged by this post but I want you to see what you are up against in terms of athletic wise. In order for you to make a team you musttttttttttttt get faster and quicker. The speed you are at now would not even cut it on the HS level in Cali, FL and TX. Attack your training program with intensity and stick to it. I am assuming you are a solid football player but the schools didn't offer due to your speed. You know the problem so lets get it fixed. Work hard.

[punkforlife93]

You have a long road ahead of you. I am going to be as honest as possible. You want to be a D-1A WR.
Currently these are you stats;
40 time- 5.0 flat, probably 5.2 when timed electronically
18 inch vertical
20 yard shuttle- 5.0 ( same as your 40 time)
Never seriously lifted weights.

I was a D-1A DB
40 time- 4.4
36 inch vertical
20 yard shuttle- 4.21
Lifted weights and ran 365 days a year

Don't get discouraged by this post but I want you to see what you are up against in terms of athletic wise. In order for you to make a team you musttttttttttttt get faster and quicker. The speed you are at now would not even cut it on the HS level in Cali, FL and TX. Attack your training program with intensity and stick to it. I am assuming you are a solid football player but the schools didn't offer due to your speed. You know the problem so lets get it fixed. Work hard.

Thanks man. I'm going to work to get faster, I wont be happy until I can legitimately compete with anyone. And my vertical will improve.

I'm going to keep a log and work at it. Good luck with your own stuff at the pro level.

[PitbullJR]

Thanks man. I'm going to work to get faster, I wont be happy until I can legitimately compete with anyone. And my vertical will improve.

I'm going to keep a log and work at it. Good luck with your own stuff at the pro level.

Good job and thanks

[Scarecrow22]

Hey man i appreciate what your doing. A little info about me.. i went to a small school, i was a decent athlete, nothing special. I never lifted seriously in school. I had a d-1 and one of the best d2 schools come watch me play but i didn't receive a scholly. The d2 showed the most interest but i was just a prefered walk-on so i just decided to go to a juco. I have gotten bigger and stronger but also fatter and slower. So basically i was wondering how much should i be running and how i should be running so get faster. I'm not worried about being in top shape right now as i'm gonna walk on in 2011. Maybe a weekly schedule of how you run/ran?

I forgot.. I played saftey and wr. I was all conference as wr and all-state honorable mention. I ran a hand timed 4.6.

[PitbullJR]

Hey man i appreciate what your doing. A little info about me.. i went to a small school, i was a decent athlete, nothing special. I never lifted seriously in school. I had a d-1 and one of the best d2 schools come watch me play but i didn't receive a scholly. The d2 showed the most interest but i was just a prefered walk-on so i just decided to go to a juco. I have gotten bigger and stronger but also fatter and slower. So basically i was wondering how much should i be running and how i should be running so get faster. I'm not worried about being in top shape right now as i'm gonna walk on in 2011. Maybe a weekly schedule of how you run/ran?

I forgot.. I played saftey and wr. I was all conference as wr and all-state honorable mention. I ran a hand timed 4.6.

During the summer months I was on campus so I followed our S&C coach program. But my personal running while I was back home and even when I was in HS was the following.

Day 1- Agility drills, position drills, repetition of different plays. This was easier in my case because my brother is also in college along with 3 of my cousins. My father was also our trainer. So it was 5 of us in the same age bracket. Conditioning at the end 10x 110's.

Day 2- Agility drills, position drills, reps of different plays. Conditioning was 4x100, 4x80, 4x60, 4x40

Day 3- Agility drills, speed training (weight vest, sleds, hurdle jumping, resistance starts). Reps of plays

Day 4 Agility drills, medicine ball tosses, reps of plays. Conditioning 12x110's.

That was my routine from bout 14 yrs old until now. What was constant was the reps of plays. That alone got my speed and quickness up. These workouts consisted of about 2-3 hours.

[Scarecrow22]

Wow thats alot of running. You just made me realize how much i'm out of shape and need to start running more. Thanks dude for the schedule.

[sea11234]

I am a corner. I wanted to know what are the best ways to work on man coverage without a partner? also what are the best ways to cover routes without biting on them just incase it is a fake?

[PitbullJR]

I am a corner. I wanted to know what are the best ways to work on man coverage without a partner? also what are the best ways to cover routes without biting on them just incase it is a fake?

Where are you from in NY man? The only way you can do it without a partner is just practicing your steps; assume which routes they are going to run. Back peddle, plant and go cover the out route, back peddle plant whirlie bird to cover the post corner.
Best way to not bite on a fake is to keep your eyes focused on the WR mid-section. By doing that you will not react to his head fakes or shoulder fakes. His stomach won't move

[DoneDollar]

CIS is canadian university ball. Obviously it's no match for top NCAA level ball, I was just wondering how big of a difference you think it is

[beertank23]

I have questions not directly realted to "my chances of making D1AA as a 120 pound kid who runs 5.3".

May I ask, how you dealt with the bakings at halftime or after a loss? Were the sprays the coaches gave different between the pros and college? Reason I ask, is I'm watching 'hard knocks' and some the sprays the coaches give players are unreal.

How many coaches were there in College? Were there as many specialist coaches as the pros?

Also How big is football (pro and college) in Canada?

[PitbullJR]

CIS is canadian university ball. Obviously it's no match for top NCAA level ball, I was just wondering how big of a difference you think it is

I have no clue. I have never competed with anyone from that league, so it would be very ignorant of me to assume how good or bad they are.

[PitbullJR]

I have questions not directly realted to "my chances of making D1AA as a 120 pound kid who runs 5.3".

May I ask, how you dealt with the bakings at halftime or after a loss? Were the sprays the coaches gave different between the pros and college? Reason I ask, is I'm watching 'hard knocks' and some the sprays the coaches give players are unreal.

How many coaches were there in College? Were there as many specialist coaches as the pros?

Also How big is football (pro and college) in Canada?

I listened to what they was saying rather than how they were saying it. The anger and language I heard in college were not any different than the pros and in HS.
I don't know the exact number of coaches but there were probably 11-12 counting the GA's. The same holds true in the pro's.
In Canada they have the CFL which is a big professional league, I have no clue about how popular it is in college.

[kurtbbbb]

You should start a training log up. It would be really interesting to see how you train and what you do day to day? Even just for a couple of weeks!

[PitbullJR]

You should start a training log up. It would be really interesting to see how you train and what you do day to day? Even just for a couple of weeks!

If time permits than what you suggested seems like a good idea.

Here is a quote which put things in perspective.

"There is a lot of blood sweat and guts between dreams and success". Paul "Bear" Bryant

[Logical95]

Do a lot of the NFL players you've been around take any supplements? I am curious as to what professional athletes take....

do they take creatine? Whey protein?

I've know creatine is beneficial for "explosive type" athletes and sports, but bc of its supposed "dehydration" effect, I was wondering if NFL players took it?

also, what percentage of NFL athletes do you think are on steroids or HGH?? I would say its more than 50%....

[PitbullJR]

Do a lot of the NFL players you've been around take any supplements? I am curious as to what professional athletes take....

do they take creatine? Whey protein?

I've know creatine is beneficial for "explosive type" athletes and sports, but bc of its supposed "dehydration" effect, I was wondering if NFL players took it?

also, what percentage of NFL athletes do you think are on steroids or HGH?? I would say its more than 50%....

Yes we take all the supplements you listed. In regards to your last comment, I have no comment.

[Zoom24]

Did you party or drink a lot either in season or out of season?

[PitbullJR]

Did you party or drink a lot either in season or out of season?

During the season I use to bug out after the games...win or lose, it didn't matter.
When the season was over, I partied a lot until I met my girl. She went to Univ of Louisville so I was over there a lot.

[GSparky]

At 5'8 weighing about 220, could I make it as a DI MLB?

[PitbullJR]

At 5'8 weighing about 220, could I make it as a DI MLB?

Yup if you are one hell of a football player. Watch tape on Mike Singeltary, London Fletcher and H.B Blades when he was at Pitt.

[HULK_JR15]

here it is ive posted in thes thread before......i jus got accepted to a d2 ncaa college and the gym fasiltys is the ishh 5x better than the gyms i pay to go to they have everything swimming suana bowling like 4 diffrent gyms etc........ pretty much when i get there im bout to put in overtime on my legs i need hella leg strength i kno u can do squats and all dat but diffrent methods give diffrents results....... same lifts jus diffrent way of goin bout doin them....what did u do for legs and what did u use for recovery

[LC83]

During the season I use to bug out after the games...win or lose, it didn't matter.
When the season was over, I partied a lot until I met my girl. She went to Univ of Louisville so I was over there a lot.

How did you meet your girl??

[mvp00]

Specials are returning kicks and punts
team warm-up/ stretch
Drills with our position coach
Teach period, where we are learning new plays as a unit
Inside run period
7 on 7
Team period
Situational period
Conditioning
Meetings/ lifting in the afternoon

whats the conditioning like

[sea11234]

Where are you from in NY man? The only way you can do it without a partner is just practicing your steps; assume which routes they are going to run. Back peddle, plant and go cover the out route, back peddle plant whirlie bird to cover the post corner.
Best way to not bite on a fake is to keep your eyes focused on the WR mid-section. By doing that you will not react to his head fakes or shoulder fakes. His stomach won't move

im about 40 min north of the bronx. whats a whirlie bird?

[GodsAngina]

Just curious, why do you assume hand timed is quicker than electronic timed? Surely the delay between seeing the guy cross the line and pressing the stop button would make the times slower rather than faster than electronic times?

[PitbullJR]

here it is ive posted in thes thread before......i jus got accepted to a d2 ncaa college and the gym fasiltys is the ishh 5x better than the gyms i pay to go to they have everything swimming suana bowling like 4 diffrent gyms etc........ pretty much when i get there im bout to put in overtime on my legs i need hella leg strength i kno u can do squats and all dat but diffrent methods give diffrents results....... same lifts jus diffrent way of goin bout doin them....what did u do for legs and what did u use for recovery

Glute Ham Raises, Still Leg DL, Trap Bar DL, Reverse Hypers and Plyos. I use to recover my getting into the cold tub.

[PitbullJR]

How did you meet your girl??

She was visiting her friend on our campus. Her friend is my boy's girl. We just clicked and things worked out.

[PitbullJR]

whats the conditioning like

4 full gassers after practice

[PitbullJR]

im about 40 min north of the bronx. whats a whirlie bird?

You probably in the westchester league. Whirlie Bird is when you are back pedaling and you basically spin around instead of stoping to defend the WR. My dad's good friend coaches Mount Vernon HS

[Coty08]

Yup if you are one hell of a football player. Watch tape on Mike Singeltary, London Fletcher and H.B Blades when he was at Pitt.H.B. Blades give 5'11 backers like me hope haha.

[PitbullJR]

H.B. Blades give 5'11 backers like me hope haha.

He was a beast

[PitbullJR]

Just curious, why do you assume hand timed is quicker than electronic timed? Surely the delay between seeing the guy cross the line and pressing the stop button would make the times slower rather than faster than electronic times?

Well with hand time, when they press start its when they assume you are taking off. If you have a rock in your take off, when you rock they will start the clock which is bad for you. It also means that they may anticipate your take off and start it a little before you go. This holds to to when you cross the finish line. And when it is hand time they are judging when you moved from 40 yards away. So guys will stop the clock when your body first hits the line or when your whole body crosses the line.

Electronic timing your thumb is on a button and when it leaves the clock starts. There are also sensors which go off when you cross the line. The times are also slower when timed electronically. This is due to the fact that there is no "human perception" involved

[Coty08]

I have questions not directly realted to "my chances of making D1AA as a 120 pound kid who runs 5.3".

May I ask, how you dealt with the bakings at halftime or after a loss? Were the sprays the coaches gave different between the pros and college? Reason I ask, is I'm watching 'hard knocks' and some the sprays the coaches give players are unreal.

How many coaches were there in College? Were there as many specialist coaches as the pros?

Also How big is football (pro and college) in Canada?Just wanted to comment on this. I have no experience in college football what so ever. But the school I am going to now produced an NFL athlete a starting one at that. He comes down for our summer workouts and such and he says the way our coaches yell at us is the same way his coaches in the NFL yell at him. I will also say this. To everyone that has hopes and dreams READ what I am about to write. I lived in Mississippi all my life. Grew up in Kiln, Mississippi home of Brett Favre. I went to Hancock High School and used to see Brett a lot since my grandma was really good friends with his mom. His dad irving was my pee-wee football coach and taught me how to play QB and such haha ironic. Anyways Brett as some of you may not know was not always good. In high school his dad coached him and prefered to run the ball rather than throw. Brett played QB and Safety and he got a scholarship to Southern Miss on a SAFETY scholarship. He was a third string quarterback. Well the first and second string guys got hurt and Brett got his chance and the rest is history. In the NFL he sat the bench in Atlanta until someone in Green Bay basically said man there is a super bowl quarterback sitting on the bench and they brought him to Green Bay and basically the rest is LIVING history haha.

[sea11234]

You probably in the westchester league. Whirlie Bird is when you are back pedaling and you basically spin around instead of stoping to defend the WR. My dad's good friend coaches Mount Vernon HS

o iight. im in rockland its across the river from westchester. we never played mount vernon cause they arent that good but we beat white plains and lost to new rochelle.