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BigChuckles

05-19-2003, 10:17 AM

I'm in with you guys. I'm still working at my faith. I need to get more involved with the church. i.e. after church service activities. Ok let's get somethin started. What has been the hardest thing about keeping your faith once you got involved in fitness? Also do you feel that the bodybuilding lifestyle contradicts your Christian beliefs? One thing I actually feel bad about is that when I'm bulking I eat a ton of food. So when I turn on the TV and see starving people it hurts me. I know everyone does not think this way but it just makes me feel bad at times.

wildman536

05-19-2003, 12:02 PM

I feel that Everything i do is through Christ therefore the Progress i make in Bodybuilding is Directed through Him so i dont feel BB is in the Way!!!

BigChuckles

05-19-2003, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by wildman536
I feel that Everything i do is through Christ therefore the Progress i make in Bodybuilding is Directed through Him so i dont feel BB is in the Way!!!

Thanks for the reponse. Yeah actually I had that talk with someone else before and they told me something similar to what you said. So I just need to change my way of thinking.

scox2053

05-24-2003, 11:22 PM

I'll tell you what helps me through my workouts. I look at some of the totally obese, totally disabled people who come into the emergency room I work at, and then I look at the potential that the GOOD LORD has given me and that helps me work even harder.

There are some parents who couldn't walk across the street for their children and I want to be a person who can go out. play with my kids and be as healthy as I possibly can. I want to be in the best possible shape I can be both physically and spiritually.

There are some people who wish they could be more active but physically can't. Those are the poeple I feel sorry for.

Steve

wildman536

05-25-2003, 05:02 PM

to set the Record straight i diddnt put that Thumbs down on there on purpose!!!!!

Musta Just accidentally clicked it!!!

supersize77

05-25-2003, 06:44 PM

wildman536

05-26-2003, 10:15 AM

Bump!!

John J Rambo

05-31-2003, 04:55 PM

How do you think jesus feels about AAS???

BigChuckles

05-31-2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by John J Rambo
How do you think jesus feels about AAS???

God gave us the opportunity to determine what we should put in our bodies. He gave us the knowledge to do what we thought was best for our bodies. AAS are illegal but there other drugs i.e. cigarettes that are legal but still detrimental to our bodies. I'm sure there are millions of christians that smoke. So I think jesus would not want us to use anything that we think is detrimental to our bodies. But sometimes it's hard to determine what is actually good for our bodies based on current research. Some studies say that steroids don't harm while others say they do. So i'm kind of stumped on this issue.

supersize77

06-01-2003, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by BigChuckles
God gave us the opportunity to determine what we should put in our bodies. He gave us the knowledge to do what we thought was best for our bodies. AAS are illegal but there other drugs i.e. cigarettes that are legal but still detrimental to our bodies. I'm sure there are millions of christians that smoke. So I think jesus would not want us to use anything that we think is detrimental to our bodies. But sometimes it's hard to determine what is actually good for our bodies based on current research. Some studies say that steroids don't harm while others say they do. So i'm kind of stumped on this issue.

Romans 13 says that we should submit to the govt. so that is the reason I havnt used thus far. I dont agree that they are illegal but I'll abide by it because its the right thing to do.

Biblical Propor

06-23-2003, 02:59 PM

No ones been here in over 20 days I thought you all were gonna keep this thing going.

wildman536

06-23-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Biblical Propor
No ones been here in over 20 days I thought you all were gonna keep this thing going. Bump lets Do It!!

BigChuckles

06-23-2003, 07:53 PM

Ok another question. Has bodybuilding helped to strengthen your Christian beliefs and bring you closer to God?

Biblical Propor

06-23-2003, 08:29 PM

A little. When I catch myself paying more attention to my diet than my spirit the Spirit convicts me. Hey this is a Great web site dedicated to loving God with your mind. wwwstr.org you wont be disappointed.

sallystrothers

06-24-2003, 12:12 AM

My big dilemma is that bodybuilding can be detrimental to your health. I would never want to cut my life short and not fufill God's plan for my life because I want to be big.

How many other people can say they gave 1-test to their pastor :(, still feel guilty about that one.

Biblical Propor

06-24-2003, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by sallystrothers
My big dilemma is that bodybuilding can be detrimental to your health. I would never want to cut my life short and not fufill God's plan for my life because I want to be big.

How many other people can say they gave 1-test to their pastor :(, still feel guilty about that one.

Why, did it have an adverse affect on his body?

wildman536

06-24-2003, 08:39 AM

I feel that it has made me more In Tune With Christ because He is the One i Contribute The Gains To!!

sallystrothers

06-24-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Biblical Propor
Why, did it have an adverse affect on his body?

No, he actually wants more :D. He is 57 and in incredible shape (he does DB press with 85's, sets of 12). It is just kind of weird to give your pastor a steroidal compound, you know?

BB is cool but just as long as it isnt too comsuming. Paul said that physical training is of some importance.

Biblical Propor

06-24-2003, 03:37 PM

I think it's pretty cool to have a relationship with your pastor like that.

wildman536

06-24-2003, 03:43 PM

since this is A Christian Thread Does anybody Listen to DC Talk? They have a New Album out and i want to see if Its any Good?

Cogar

06-24-2003, 03:46 PM

My pastor is 42 and has been into natural bodybuilding big time for over 20 years, and looks it. His bench (10 reps) is somewhere in the 300s, if that gives you an idea. Anyway, although he takes creatine, he would not take anything illegal, because Christians have to follow the law as supersize77 mentioned.

Biblical Propor

06-24-2003, 11:09 PM

1Test is legal. I didn't know DC Talk was back together,but Toby Mack's Extreme Days is the bomb to work out to.
<<<Jesus Freak

wildman536

06-24-2003, 11:56 PM

Pretty Heavy Christian Music?

sallystrothers

06-30-2003, 10:23 AM

You all see all those religion posts in the misc forum? Geez there is a grip of them.

triplewhammy

07-23-2003, 09:24 AM

I just wanted to make my own personal point regarding bodybuilding and the Christian lifestyle. To be honest, bodybuilding helps my spirituality SO much. If you stop to think about the two, they are SO similar. As a bodybuilder, I constantly feel like an outcast, different from the world. For example, my youth group will have a party and they will order pizza or have ice cream. They see me pass on it, and I feel like the loser left out. People will say things like "Hey do you want some of....oh wait nevermind, you don't eat this stuff." It kinda makes you feel distant. BUT, this is completely like Christianity, being that the world in general does not accept it. You feel left out, or different from everyone, and that's because you ARE! But, inside, you know that what you're doing is for the long-term...you know you're goals and where you're going...just thought I'd point that out....

Cogar

07-23-2003, 10:02 AM

Almost all of life is like that. The "average" person isn't making it spiritually, in their family life, their career or school, their physical life, etc. because they want to do what is easy, not what is right.

wildman536

07-23-2003, 10:08 AM

Nice to See The Thread Moving Again!!

ChiZel_MunKee

07-23-2003, 12:09 PM

Great thread. Just wondering what other music you guys listen to. I love a few christian metal bands, like Demon Hunter, Extol and Living Sacrifice. I was so glad to find out about these bands too because a lot of the other nonchristian metal has rather dark lyrics to them. I still enjoy the music, but definitely prefer a good message in the song. Also, my AIM name is chizelmunkea if you're ever bored.

wildman536

07-23-2003, 12:37 PM

Thanks for The Bands!!

supersize77

07-24-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Cogar
Almost all of life is like that. The "average" person isn't making it spiritually, in their family life, their career or school, their physical life, etc. because they want to do what is easy, not what is right.
Big Bump.

BigChuckles

07-24-2003, 11:29 AM

If you're into gospel music here are a few good artists.

Kirk Franklin
Donnie McKlurkin
Bebe Winans
CeCe Winans
Smokie Norful
Yolanda Adams
Mary Mary
Fred Hammond
Hezekiah Walker

dtblount

07-25-2003, 10:59 PM

This isn't a shot at you, personally, but it's just a funny thing. If you are going to make fun of somebody, its usually a good idea to CORRECTLY spell the main word in your sentence. I'm willing to bet both of my legs that your "mormin" is spelled "mormon." ....just a little bit of advice

supersize77

07-26-2003, 12:02 AM

Any Christain bros delt with an injury that affected their training? I'm dealing with some sort of injury (tendonitis, partial tear?) in my left bicep forearm area that has really affected my workouts.

wildman536

07-26-2003, 01:26 AM

I Tore up my Neck Somehow.

supersize77

07-26-2003, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by wildman536
I Tore up my Neck Somehow.

What, if anything did God teach you through this injury, because right now this arm injury is a real trial for me, (it not only interfers with working out, but also at my work where I have to lift things). A very humbleing experience indeed (which may be one thing I am learning more of).

wildman536

07-26-2003, 04:23 AM

Well if He Tought me Anything Through It It was to Use Better Form.

supersize77

07-27-2003, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by wildman536
Well if He Tought me Anything Through It It was to Use Better Form.

Ha! That was pretty clever, same here, I will never compromise form for weight as I did before this injury.

BuffMike

07-27-2003, 03:34 PM

Hi guys, my daughter Eden had to have heart surgery on Friday. She is just 5 weeks old. She is gettin help to breath on a ventilator right now. Can you all pray that she starts breathing on her own soon.. God Bless

BuffMike

wildman536

07-27-2003, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by BuffMike
Hi guys, my daughter Eden had to have heart surgery on Friday. She is just 5 weeks old. She is gettin help to breath on a ventilator right now. Can you all pray that she starts breathing on her own soon.. God Bless

BuffMike God Bless!!! You Have My Prayer!!

supersize77

07-27-2003, 11:10 PM

ChiZel_MunKee

07-28-2003, 12:51 PM

I'll be praying for her and the rest of you. God bless!

Hanan

07-29-2003, 02:08 AM

Heavenly Father, You are Mighty and You know best. Lord, please heal Eden. Restore her respiration, bathe her in good health. May our prayers be heard clearly by you Father. Guide us into prayer and thoughts that please You, so that you will hear us a clear as possible.

Be especially with her parents, and family. Bring them rest, peace, Joy, and Hope in You.

In Jesus' name, Amen.

Hanan

07-29-2003, 02:33 AM

I don't mean to suddenly change the subject, but I just want to say I am really glad I found this thread. I have been fluttering in and out of bodybuilding boards for some time, and have yearned for fellowship with fellow bodybuilders like in this thread.

Isn't the Lord awesome?!

Some of my favorite bodybuilding scriptures:

"For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come" (1 Timothy 4:8).

"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another" (Proverbs 27:17).

"The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat" ( Judges 14:6).

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;" (1 Corinthians 6:19).

Jesus Christ is the Lord of my life. I have had setbacks since I first became a Believer in latter grade school 17 years ago, but the Lord always welcomes us back with open arms.

I love how the poster above talked about how important balance is in his life. Me too. Sometimes my lust to look a certain way has left me imbalanced. Rather, I want to make sure the Lord approves of my training, and it is for Him rather than for selfish reasons.

I want bodybuilding to be an important part of maintaining good physical health habits, a hobby, meeting others, and for enjoyment; but, I do not want it to ever consume me. And I have to admit, this gets very tough to do sometimes, especially when I get distracted by all the filth in between the cracks on the internet.

And steroids. I share the posters sentiments above. I am not sure what God thinks about them, but I do know they are illegal in my country. I always ask myself, would I use them in another country where it is legal?

I've been training for 12 years now, and I get frustrated sometimes trying to figure out my nutrition and training routines. There's so much conflicting info out there.

NE wayz, just excited to be amongst Christians who are into building their bodies for a Greater Purpose, and for fun.

Looking forward to reading more posts from you all!

Maranatha!

P.S.

BuffMike, just tears my heart to hear about your daughter. I'll make sure and remember to continue to pray for her, and ask fellow Christians to join me. Keep us posted, and may a healthy dose of His Word bring you comfort.

wildman536

07-29-2003, 09:28 AM

Had to Bump This Thread to The Top Again for Everyone to See and Someone New to Grasp The Message!!!

God Bless!!

dtblount

07-29-2003, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by supersize77
Any Christain bros delt with an injury that affected their training? I'm dealing with some sort of injury (tendonitis, partial tear?) in my left bicep forearm area that has really affected my workouts.

Yeah, I just had surgery to remove a mass of scar tissue in my left pectoral. Apparently, about a year ago, I partially tore my pec (probably during football), and I never let it heal correctly, so the scar tissue formed sort of a ball. I had to have it cut out, so its kinda hard coming back from that, but I'm back to about 75% of my bench......just stay strong and know that you will almost always heal and fully recover. REMEMBER TO STRETCH WHEN LIFTING!

BuffMike

07-29-2003, 03:17 PM

Praise God.! Thanks for all your prayers. My daugter is now off the ventilator and other machines. She is now eating very well and will be moving out of the ICU. Lord thanks for hearing our prayers.

Amen

BuffMike

wildman536

07-29-2003, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by BuffMike
Praise God.! Thanks for all your prayers. My daugter is now off the ventilator and other machines. She is now eating very well and will be moving out of the ICU. Lord thanks for hearing our prayers.

Amen

BuffMike God Listens!!!! Congrats!!!

supersize77

07-29-2003, 10:17 PM

supersize77

07-29-2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by dtblount
Yeah, I just had surgery to remove a mass of scar tissue in my left pectoral. Apparently, about a year ago, I partially tore my pec (probably during football), and I never let it heal correctly, so the scar tissue formed sort of a ball. I had to have it cut out, so its kinda hard coming back from that, but I'm back to about 75% of my bench......just stay strong and know that you will almost always heal and fully recover. REMEMBER TO STRETCH WHEN LIFTING!

Thanks for the encouragement, may the Lord continue to heal your pec.

ChiZel_MunKee

07-30-2003, 09:54 AM

Hanan

07-31-2003, 04:26 PM

{{What, if anything did God teach you through this injury, because right now this arm injury is a real trial for me, (it not only interfers with working out, but also at my work where I have to lift things). A very humbleing experience indeed (which may be one thing I am learning more of).}}

Man, that sucks. Prayers for your healing and a quick recovery. I feel you on the injury being a major trial. I'm sitting here feeling healthy, and my mind is having a hard time wanting to go back and think about the times I was injured.

One interesting thing for me, is that it always initially either seems to get me looking for answers in the Word, and asking God, WHY? Or, I get really angry and God starts getting smaller for me.

The last time I was in one of those trials I was sick. Last summer I got bronchitis real bad, and tried to work out b4 I was better and ended up getting even sicker. I had been in the Word and was growing a lot, spending all may spare time working in various ministries. Well, I believe God was telling me to step back, and evaluate if I was really doing the service for Him or for my own peace of mind and glory. I prayed on it and realized I had been trying to work my way into favor.

Major injuries have also changed my life. A broken hand after a fight once led me to reevaluate myself seriously, and ended up bringing me back closer to the Lord. To save some rambling here, in the end I believe I would have never met my wife had I not broke my hand.

I believe that are trials are there to make our relationships stonger with the Lord, and I feel there is always something good to take out of a trail. Man, sometimes it's so hard for me to see it, but I have always found He is there to answer.

"Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us" (Rom 5:3-5).

And God knows the plans He has for us, and that is to prosper us and not to harm us (Jer 29:11).

I love in Job where it says, "Even though You slay me, yet I will Trust you." I just meditate on this verse sometimes when I'm in a trial.

Hanan

07-31-2003, 04:28 PM

Thanks for the welcome wildman.

I will join my voice in accordance with the praise regarding the baby Eden as well!!!

kcck

07-31-2003, 07:29 PM

Hello. Mind if i join yr little group here?

I see bodybuilding as a way of taking care of my temple...except on cheat day :-)

im still working on it lol

Cogar

07-31-2003, 09:11 PM

So are the rest of us. :)

supersize77

07-31-2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Hanan
{{What, if anything did God teach you through this injury, because right now this arm injury is a real trial for me, (it not only interfers with working out, but also at my work where I have to lift things). A very humbleing experience indeed (which may be one thing I am learning more of).}}

Man, that sucks. Prayers for your healing and a quick recovery. I feel you on the injury being a major trial. I'm sitting here feeling healthy, and my mind is having a hard time wanting to go back and think about the times I was injured.

One interesting thing for me, is that it always initially either seems to get me looking for answers in the Word, and asking God, WHY? Or, I get really angry and God starts getting smaller for me.

The last time I was in one of those trials I was sick. Last summer I got bronchitis real bad, and tried to work out b4 I was better and ended up getting even sicker. I had been in the Word and was growing a lot, spending all may spare time working in various ministries. Well, I believe God was telling me to step back, and evaluate if I was really doing the service for Him or for my own peace of mind and glory. I prayed on it and realized I had been trying to work my way into favor.

Major injuries have also changed my life. A broken hand after a fight once led me to reevaluate myself seriously, and ended up bringing me back closer to the Lord. To save some rambling here, in the end I believe I would have never met my wife had I not broke my hand.

I believe that are trials are there to make our relationships stonger with the Lord, and I feel there is always something good to take out of a trail. Man, sometimes it's so hard for me to see it, but I have always found He is there to answer.

"Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us" (Rom 5:3-5).

And God knows the plans He has for us, and that is to prosper us and not to harm us (Jer 29:11).

I love in Job where it says, "Even though You slay me, yet I will Trust you." I just meditate on this verse sometimes when I'm in a trial.

I really appreciate your post, especially the scripture. Sometimes God does seem small to me, but He always brings me back to the truth. He is a truly Loving and perfect God, and my finite mine has trouble seeing beyond its own selfishness. But then He uses a brother like you to post scripture and remind me of the abundant blessings He has prepared for us, and that one day we will be home and prasieing God together. Thank you again.

"For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world-our faith." 1 Jn 5:4

wildman536

08-01-2003, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Hanan
Thanks for the welcome wildman.

your Welcome bro!! Nice to have you!!

O_o

08-09-2003, 03:34 AM

Hey guys, glad to find this thread :)

The issue of physical fitness and Christianity has always been a stumbling block for me. I've struggled with it for over a decade, but am glad to say that I've finally found some answers.

In fact, I am currently working on preparing a sermon to give to my college group regarding the topic of physical fitness. I will certainly post a transcript here when I finish it. I'm still researching, and going at a rather slow rate since I have many other projects/housing/school issues to deal with, but hopefully I will have the transcript within a month.

I feel somewhat guilty asking this, because I have a few unresolved issues, but for the sake of fellow siblings in the church, I would appreciate your prayers for time to work, concentration during that time, and that this would be an all-inclusive message regarding everything the Bible has to say on the topic of physical fitness. From the little I know so far, this is already going to be a knockout topic that will certainly divide the Christians from the non-Christians, as well as turn a lot of stereotypical "Christian" thoughts and beliefs completely upside-down. Such a message needs to be treated and expressed both boldly but compassionately. This is really going to be a major task to get just right. But, if there's one message God's laid on my heart to get out into the open, this is it, and I'll see it through.

WrestlerChic

08-11-2003, 05:50 PM

hey, mind if i join you group? even though i'm not much of a guy. . .haha
~peace~

Cogar

08-11-2003, 10:20 PM

Hi WrestlerChic, welcome to our quiet little thread! :)

WrestlerChic

08-12-2003, 07:17 AM

alright. . kool

SHOT

08-12-2003, 08:24 AM

Its nice to see a post like this started.....I am really suprised i didnt have to edit or delete any post yet....all the Christan post in the Misc forum get bashed by some smack offs that have nothing better to do then flame....

ill be checking this post time to time when i get a chance...stay stronge all...God Bless

SHOT

08-12-2003, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by supersize77
Any Christain bros delt with an injury that affected their training? I'm dealing with some sort of injury (tendonitis, partial tear?) in my left bicep forearm area that has really affected my workouts.

I had herina surgery in nov of 2002 and it brought me down to 205 lbs from 245....sucked big time but im back into the gym hard core again sitting around 250....at 5'8

WrestlerChic

08-12-2003, 09:58 AM

~Any Christain bros delt with an injury that affected their training? I'm dealing with some sort of injury (tendonitis, partial tear?) in my left bicep forearm area that has really affected my workouts~

in the winter of 2002, i tore my right knee ligament and that set me back, big time. i had to rest it for 3 months with no lifting or wrestling. but now i'm doing a whole lot better and i'm stronger than ever

Cogar

08-12-2003, 10:44 AM

I have had several injuries and they never stopped my training, although they did alter it. I used these techniques, listed from the most commonplace to the less orthodox.

1. Apply heat (1 minute) and cold (1 minute) to the joint or muscle. Go through 3-4 cycles. Keep doing these sessions when convenient as long as you have discomfort. The heat helps circulation, which is lousy in joints, and the cooling helps reduce any swelling or inflammation.

2. Use Glucosamine / Chondroitin for any joint injuries. (Actually, I use it all the time, but if you have a joint injury, it is critical.) This helps rebuild and lubricate joints. For more information, see this site written by a doctor who studies this in depth (link (http://www.drtheo.com/)).

3. Work around the injury by using machines. I know free weights are great, but you can isolate better with machines, keep up the progress with surrounding muscle groups, and allow the strained area to rest and heal more quickly.

4. Ecdysterone is an excellent adaptogen. Consider taking it. I did when I had a severe muscle pull in my side and later with a back injury. The relief in perhaps 1/2 hour was welcome. Ecdysterone does not inhibit muscle synthesis like aspirin, ibuprofen, or acetaminophen.

jake24

08-14-2003, 09:13 AM

this is the first time i have ever seen this thread and i am glad i found it its good to know so many of you share the same faith as me even though i have back slidding in the past few years but i recently rededicated my life to the lord and i am trying to serve him with my whole heart and find my purpose in this life and pray for me it very tough i believe i am a sex addict thats know joke my biggest sin is my constant desire for woman i cant settle down it seems but keep me in your prayers!!!!

Cogar

08-14-2003, 09:21 AM

All men struggle with that temptation jake24. Proverbs addresses the subject from many angles for just that reason I believe. Welcome to the thread. :)

Big Dude 54

08-14-2003, 06:32 PM

Hey whats up guys and gals. Newbie to the thread here. I've been a diehard christian for many years now and it's nice to see other christians in this board who aren't afraid to speak up. I'm here now and I hope this thread will become one of the biggest on the boards.

Cogar

08-15-2003, 08:05 AM

Welcome, Big Dude 54! :)

QuiZahn

08-15-2003, 10:18 AM

In April of 2002, I rededicated myself to Christ. Soon afterwards, the Good Lord started opening many doors to me left and right. I kicked my drug habit, stopped smoking, and nearly stopped drinking altogether. I started working out and met a girl whom I've been with for almost a year now. Life to me has new meaning, and I pray someday that my friends will share my faith, as they are all athiests and agnostics right now. They say that I've changed greatly both in appearance (195,18.9%) and personality. I attribute everything to God and tell them so. Through my trials and all of my joy, Jesus is my foundation.

God bless all you brothers and sisters, and I pray the Lord protect you and strengthenyou.

Cogar

08-15-2003, 10:25 AM

Wow, what a testimony! Welcome, QuiZahn. :)

matpal

08-15-2003, 11:35 AM

Want to let you guys in on a plan I have. I am the process of opening an online store that will sell my private-label items. Along with the supplements, I will have the usual hous of bodybuilding/nutrition articloes, but I am also including articles on Christianity. I have permission to use alot of good stuff, but to keep things fresh, I will also implement a discussion board. One forum for diets, one for supplements, ect, ect, but also one for Christian-related discussions. Also, one debating different religions and denominations. Also, as aprt of the article series, I am going to offer free resources (most likely literature) for those seeking Christ or who are simply looking for more info. thinking about the large numbers of unbeleivers that my site could attract gets me very excited. I'll keep everyone posted, and if you have any suggestions or ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. Hopefully, the store should be open in 4-6 weeks, depending on financing. I dont want to spam, so i will release the domain name at a later date.

footballjunior

08-15-2003, 11:47 AM

did we let this die?

jake24

08-16-2003, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by matpal
Want to let you guys in on a plan I have. I am the process of opening an online store that will sell my private-label items. Along with the supplements, I will have the usual hous of bodybuilding/nutrition articloes, but I am also including articles on Christianity. I have permission to use alot of good stuff, but to keep things fresh, I will also implement a discussion board. One forum for diets, one for supplements, ect, ect, but also one for Christian-related discussions. Also, one debating different religions and denominations. Also, as aprt of the article series, I am going to offer free resources (most likely literature) for those seeking Christ or who are simply looking for more info. thinking about the large numbers of unbeleivers that my site could attract gets me very excited. I'll keep everyone posted, and if you have any suggestions or ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. Hopefully, the store should be open in 4-6 weeks, depending on financing. I dont want to spam, so i will release the domain name at a later date. that sounds like a great plan to me good luck!!

BuffMike

08-16-2003, 06:59 PM

Just wanted to thank you all for your prayers. My daughter Eden is doing great. She eats like a horse just like her dad, lol. She is on medication to control her blood pressure. Praise Jesus.

BuffMike

Cogar

08-19-2003, 12:44 PM

I received an interesting question and could use your suggestions. Here is the question:

Do you have any book suggestions for reading about Christianity (or religion in general) that are objective and reasonably deep when it comes to facts?
I could of course get myself a Bible and read it, but I don't know if I'll understand half of it and its significance :).

matpal

08-19-2003, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Cogar
I received an interesting question and could use your suggestions. Here is the question:

Do you have any book suggestions for reading about Christianity (or religion in general) that are objective and reasonably deep when it comes to facts?
I could of course get myself a Bible and read it, but I don't know if I'll understand half of it and its significance :).

Anything by norman L Geisler is really good on apologetics (defending the faith). Also, if you are looking for cold facts, check out www. e q u i p .org (no spaces). Or for a very informative and good read, check out most anything by Josh McDowell.

Cogar

08-19-2003, 01:35 PM

Thank you matpal. If anyone else has suggestions, let me know. :)

supersize77

08-19-2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Cogar
Thank you matpal. If anyone else has suggestions, let me know. :)

The MacArthur Study Bible is very good.

Cogar

08-19-2003, 06:53 PM

Thank you supersize77. :) Bump for more suggestions.

esko71

08-21-2003, 05:27 PM

great to hear that buff mike.

jake24

08-28-2003, 09:00 AM

hey every body check out this cool web site www.bibleprobe.com they have lots of cool articles.

wildman536

08-28-2003, 02:12 PM

Nice Site!!

supersize77

08-30-2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by jake24
hey every body check out this cool web site www.bibleprobe.com they have lots of cool articles.

That was very interesting, but in my opinion some of the things on there were not biblical (the thing on demon possession due to being unwanted by parents etc.), but definitely thought provoking.

Cogar

08-30-2003, 08:06 PM

Yes. Always use your Bible to check what you see written anywhere. There are plenty of weird "interpretations" passed off as Christianity that are actually no more than someone's idea.

matpal

08-31-2003, 08:45 PM

We Must alaways uphold the Truth, be prepared to give an answer to our faith, and identify and steer clear of false teachers.
www.beyonbelief.com
www.equip.org

wildman536

08-31-2003, 11:47 PM

Good Sites only The One Diddnt Load?

matpal

09-01-2003, 08:54 AM

try this one...http://www.beyondbelief.com/Splash.aspx

wildman536

09-01-2003, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by matpal
try this one...http://www.beyondbelief.com/Splash.aspx Cool!!

sallystrothers

09-01-2003, 08:37 PM

Ok I am leading a Bible study tomorrow night in a youth prison and I need help on what to do it on. They love to hear the exciting stories like David and whatnot. Any suggestions? I really am not good at "preaching" to the kids so I would rather have an interesting story for them to follow.

Suggestions?

matpal

09-02-2003, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by sallystrothers
Ok I am leading a Bible study tomorrow night in a youth prison and I need help on what to do it on. They love to hear the exciting stories like David and whatnot. Any suggestions? I really am not good at "preaching" to the kids so I would rather have an interesting story for them to follow.

Suggestions?

Depends on their age. I would say that they dont need to hear exciting stories or preachy sermons. If they are in a youth prision, cahnces are they to hear that they are loved, and how to live an exemplary life. Try 1st JOhn. Not the gospel John, but 1st John. Excellent indeed.

sallystrothers

09-02-2003, 01:36 PM

Thats funny, because that was exactly what I decided to go on last night :D.

trinitymuscle

09-14-2003, 11:33 AM

do you guys know of any sites that you can get cool christian shirts. or shirts that say 100% natural or steroids are for the weak? tired of people asking me if i take crap. so what denominations do we have in here?

zook

matpal

09-18-2003, 06:54 AM

Im not sure about the shirt thing. I know Christian book stores have shirts, but not the bodybuilding related types. You could always but some iron-ons from Wal-Mart and just make them on your computer. Ive done it before, and with a little practice they look somehwhat decent.

Adelmo

09-21-2003, 07:13 AM

Im new to this website, forum and bodybuliding. But not new to the lord !!! Hallelujah !! Yes ! let's continue this thread and Grow (literally) in the Lord !!!

wildman536

09-21-2003, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Adelmo
Im new to this website, forum and bodybuliding. But not new to the lord !!! Hallelujah !! Yes ! let's continue this thread and Grow (literally) in the Lord !!! Bump!!!

Adelmo

09-21-2003, 08:09 AM

Excuse the ignorance, but, what is BUMP?

wildman536

09-21-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Adelmo
Excuse the ignorance, but, what is BUMP? To Agree with/ Get The Post Up to the top of The Recent Posts List!!

BigManDave

09-28-2003, 10:30 AM

Hey everyone,

I'm a born-again child of God on my way to Heaven. Great to see this thread! Mind if I hang around?

Adelmo

09-28-2003, 12:12 PM

Welcome Brother !!!How was today's service? Are you in any ministry? Any brother's n any sort of ministry?

wildman536

09-28-2003, 01:12 PM

Id like to Get a Degree in Religion (Christianity) Can Someone Help?

(Online Courses are Needed!!)

BigManDave

09-28-2003, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Adelmo
Welcome Brother !!!How was today's service? Are you in any ministry? Any brother's n any sort of ministry?

Thanks for the welcome. Today's service was great - as usual!
As far as ministry, our church here in NH is pretty small. Only about 60 people. So there's no real need for a lot of different ministries. But that doesn't mean we can't still serve the Lord. In the past I've taught the children's sunday school; just recently, we went to a state fair and set up a booth, where we handed out free walking sticks with colored beads on them that represented the wordless book. It was awesome. Approximately 350 people received Christ as their Saviour!! God's Word will not return void.

Adelmo

09-28-2003, 05:58 PM

Amen ! Ive been blessed in serving the Lord via the prison ministry. It has been awesome. Ive met some brothers who were serious into bodybuilding as well. Sure would love working out with some of them !!

BigManDave

09-30-2003, 06:43 PM

So here's a question: Anybody ever have a problem with pride? I know, it's easy to rationalize by saying, "Oh, i'm just staying in shape and being healthy for God", etc. But when you think about it, it's just as easy to become prideful over how big, or what a great physique you have. What was the real reason you got into Body Building?

Adelmo

09-30-2003, 07:36 PM

Scripture tells us that our bodies are the temple of the Lord's. This aught to motivate a believer to pay closer attention as to what he puits in the Lord's temple and, yes , how it looks. It is pretty difficult to hear a minister preach with a gut and gasping for air, don't you agree? Granted one can cross the line and become self-obsorbed in one's body, this is where the Holy Spirit would convict the believer of this truth. Once again the importance of continual prayer..........

Adelmo

09-30-2003, 08:07 PM

Oh! and I like to look good in a suit. My wife is 10 years my younger and so I want to keep up, is that enough honesty for you ?

Cogar

09-30-2003, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Adelmo
Scripture tells us that our bodies are the temple of the Lord's. This aught to motivate a believer to pay closer attention as to what he puits in the Lord's temple and, yes , how it looks. It is pretty difficult to hear a minister preach with a gut and gasping for air, don't you agree? Granted one can cross the line and become self-obsorbed in one's body, this is where the Holy Spirit would convict the believer of this truth. Once again the importance of continual prayer..........
I don't think there is anything wrong with bodybuilding or a good diet (obviously), although that is taking the passage out of context. The body being the temple of the Holy Spirit refers to avoiding sexual immorality. From 1 Corinthians chapter 6:

13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body [is] not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make [them] members of a harlot? Certainly not!
16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body [with her?] For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh."
17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit [with Him.]
18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit [who is] in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

Notice that it refers to sexual immorality in the second half of verse 13, a harlot in verse 15 and 16 and contrasts them with marriage (end of verse 16). The topic of sexual immorality is then the topic of verse 18 before talking about your body as a temple in verse 19.

Adelmo

10-01-2003, 07:27 AM

Thanks for that Biblical reply brother. We cannot get around the fact that being a believer our bodies are the temple of the Risen Savior. This fact aught to motivate one to take better care of oneself, don't you agree? Besides it makes us better witnesses being fit as oppose to out of shape. I appreciate your input coming from the Word , let's keep it up !!!!

wildman536

10-01-2003, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Adelmo
Thanks for that Biblical reply brother. We cannot get around the fact that being a believer our bodies are the temple of the Risen Savior. This fact aught to motivate one to take better care of oneself, don't you agree? Besides it makes us better witnesses being fit as oppose to out of shape. I appreciate your input coming from the Word , let's keep it up !!!! BUMP!!

BigManDave

10-01-2003, 11:06 AM

I totally agree with you Adelmo. I heard one pastor say, 'it's almost as if some preachers wear their stomach as a testimony'. And just to clarify, by no means was I inferring that we all got into body building for the wrong reason. The Lord does want us to keep our bodies healthy and fit for His use, as He so often states in His Word. Body building is a great way to accomplish that. Not only does it force you to maintain a healthy diet, but you'll feel more confident in your ability to share your faith with others.
Of course, none of us mind looking a little better. In fact, my first order of Whey Protien arrived today!

matpal

10-02-2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by wildman536
Id like to Get a Degree in Religion (Christianity) Can Someone Help?

(Online Courses are Needed!!)

www.biblicaltraining.org/index.html

wildman536

10-02-2003, 03:35 PM

Thanks!!

bigjon

10-08-2003, 05:59 PM

I just stumbled on to your thread and think it's great! If more Christians would stand up for their faith like you guys and girls the world would be a better place. Just nice to see I'm not alone and have brothers in Christ out there.
" I can do all things through Christ Jesus who strenthens me."

-Jon

kenscottiii

10-16-2003, 07:36 PM

....born again, ex-drug addict, alcoholic. 6 years with the Lord, thanks to him, I have a great wife and 3 healthy kids.
I lift to maintain my health ( I also just love it).
Called into the ministry about 5 yrs ago.
My wife and I work out together, she also lifts with some of her friends, and some of the guys from the church come down and lift in my home-gym.
been great, thankful the Lord allows me to do it.

Jcfreak_02

10-18-2003, 07:48 PM

In case you guys didn't know I am a Christian too.
Originally posted by BigChuckles
I'm in with you guys. I'm still working at my faith. I need to get more involved with the church. i.e. after church service activities. Ok let's get somethin started. What has been the hardest thing about keeping your faith once you got involved in fitness? Also do you feel that the bodybuilding lifestyle contradicts your Christian beliefs? One thing I actually feel bad about is that when I'm bulking I eat a ton of food. So when I turn on the TV and see starving people it hurts me. I know everyone does not think this way but it just makes me feel bad at times.
The most difficult thing about keeping true to my faith while being fit... learning to bounce my eyes. Is the BB lifestyle contrary to ours? I do not think the part about lifting weights and giving proper maintanence to our God given bodies is wrong in any way. I am offended often when I read/flip through BB magazines so I keep away from certain ones. I don't think we should feel bad about being in a privleged nation. We need to represent Christ in everyway we can. Such as; you feel bad about bulking, donate food to Loaves and Fishes then... or do some act of servanthood.
P.S. Anyone else going to the Urbana Missions Confrence this year?

Jcfreak_02

10-18-2003, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by John J Rambo
How do you think jesus feels about AAS???
If we are willing to endanger our bodies to get bigger/stronger then who are we really worshiping? I cannot find a reason to use AAS, I think if it comes to that I ought to rethink the reason I lift.

Cogar

10-20-2003, 02:05 PM

As an added comment, Romans chapter 13 verses 1-6 state (my paraphrase) that we are bound to follow the law. Since AAS are only legal when you have a prescription, the answer should be clear.

supersize77

10-20-2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Cogar
As an added comment, Romans chapter 13 verses 1-6 state (my paraphrase) that we are bound to follow the law. Since AAS are only legal when you have a prescription, the answer should be clear.

Exactly

Jcfreak_02

10-20-2003, 05:19 PM

Sounds like the AAS topic was settled. Got something out there?

I was kind of curious why it seems like I am a bit of the Lone Ranger on most of the controversial threads throughout, and do you guys think I am doing something wrong in that?

kenscottiii

10-20-2003, 05:24 PM

controversy according to truth is OK, last thing this sinful world needs is another compromising believer.

Adelmo

10-20-2003, 05:27 PM

Amen to that! As one of my favorite pastors would say, "I despise compromise...."
God bless you!

Cogar

10-20-2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Jcfreak_02
Sounds like the AAS topic was settled. Got something out there?

I was kind of curious why it seems like I am a bit of the Lone Ranger on most of the controversial threads throughout, and do you guys think I am doing something wrong in that?
My personal take is that there is nothing wrong with having a different viewpoint (as long as the person--including me--is willing to change if they have the biblical evidence presented to them) and you are not being criticized. (That was not my intent anyway.)

Some views taken by people are taught to them by a given church. It is the responsibility of each Christian to evaluate those teachings to make sure they agree with the Bible. (Search the scriptures daily to learn if it is true. Acts 17:11)

kenscottiii

10-20-2003, 05:41 PM

"ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall MAKE you free...

BigManDave

10-20-2003, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by kenscottiii
"ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall MAKE you free...

Bump

...you used the right word...

kenscottiii

10-20-2003, 07:28 PM

to many people believing lies these days
we need more truth, so many people are caught up in a false sense of security and reality.

BigManDave

10-20-2003, 07:30 PM

Amen to that bro. If only they would see that "God is not the author of confusion.."

kenscottiii

10-20-2003, 07:35 PM

my brother works for a guy that is in one of the most confused signs and wonders messes that I've ever seen

JayBee

10-28-2003, 01:35 PM

Checking in from London UK.

Christ's blessings be with you all, brothers and sisters.

matpal

10-29-2003, 01:42 PM

Its kinda cool to have family all over the world.:cool:

JayBee

10-29-2003, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by matpal
Its kinda cool to have family all over the world.:cool:

There's a hug and a Cappucino waiting for you if you come to London!!!

Our Reverend recently flew out to minister for a few days at a small church in Waynesborough (?) Pennsylvania. I wonder if the congregation thought, "We'd better break the tea out for this limey after the service, otherwise he'll go back and tell the folks in London we dumped it all!" Seriously, he got a very warm welcome, and was amazed at the sheer size of the place - apparently, they wanted to buy a 60 acre plot of land for expansion. You try doing that in London, and you'll run up a SEVEN figure bill!

Amazingly, we have an american couple who live nearby, non military, and Brian and I have gone for coffee once or twice. I myself visited NY for a week last year, and narrowly missed the chance to attend the church behind my hotel - after my last Saturday night out in NYC...

Hope to see you around!

JayBee.

Adelmo

10-29-2003, 07:25 PM

A high five if you're ever in New York City

BigManDave

10-31-2003, 11:40 AM

Well, I can't guarantee a hug or a high five, but feel free to use my weights anytime you're in the New Hampshire, USA area. :D

Fundamentals

11-01-2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Biblical Propor
1Test is legal. I didn't know DC Talk was back together,but Toby Mack's Extreme Days is the bomb to work out to.
<<<Jesus Freak

just cuz something is legal doesnt mean its not bad. Anyway, i dont think PH's are a bad thing to do, that would make drinking soda a bad thing to do also because it messes up your body.

I dont think bodybuilding is a bad thing in God's eyes. I recently went to church and i have changed a lot of bad things. Little by little i'll become a better person, because its pretty hard modifying yourself. Anyway, i like this thread and it would be a great idea if we can have a section for this.

BigManDave

11-01-2003, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Fundamentals
I dont think bodybuilding is a bad thing in God's eyes. I recently went to church and i have changed a lot of bad things. Little by little i'll become a better person, because its pretty hard modifying yourself. Anyway, i like this thread and it would be a great idea if we can have a section for this.

The key to attaining a changed life is not trying to change it yourself - rather, let God change it for you. "I can do all things through Christ, which strengtheneth me." (Phil. 4:13) Submitting our lives to Jesus Christ means letting Him have control. That doesn't mean we won't ever do anything wrong, because we still have our old nature to contend with. But with God as a part of everything we do, it will make the journey to a changed life much easier.

Dave

Adelmo

11-01-2003, 07:57 AM

"seek ye first His kingdom..."
If we keep this command up front I seriously doubt we would get caught up in trying to figure out what is acceptable or not in God's eyes. When I look at my workout as part of seeking His kingdom i find myself desiring to honor and glorify my heavenly father which is what we're to do anyway. Does this make any sense to any of my brethren?
Everything that we think, do , and say aought to Glorify He who died for us and and gave himself for us, amen?

Fundamentals

11-03-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Cogar
I don't think there is anything wrong with bodybuilding or a good diet (obviously), although that is taking the passage out of context. The body being the temple of the Holy Spirit refers to avoiding sexual immorality. From 1 Corinthians chapter 6:

13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body [is] not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make [them] members of a harlot? Certainly not!
16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body [with her?] For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh."
17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit [with Him.]
18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit [who is] in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

Notice that it refers to sexual immorality in the second half of verse 13, a harlot in verse 15 and 16 and contrasts them with marriage (end of verse 16). The topic of sexual immorality is then the topic of verse 18 before talking about your body as a temple in verse 19.

give me an example if you could, i still dont understand that.

Fundamentals

11-03-2003, 02:41 PM

so in the bible it says we should follow the law?

Cogar

11-03-2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Fundamentals
give me an example if you could, i still dont understand that.
Unfortunately, I do not understand what you need.

BigManDave

11-03-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Fundamentals
so in the bible it says we should follow the law?

No. The New testament does not command us to follow the law. The law was given for the Jews - who were not under grace - and now it serves as a "schoolmaster" for us, i.e., an example. We would do well to follow certain aspects, if not most, of the law. But, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (Rom. 8:3-4)

Jcfreak_02

11-04-2003, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by BigManDave
No. The New testament does not command us to follow the law. The law was given for the Jews - who were not under grace - and now it serves as a "schoolmaster" for us, i.e., an example. We would do well to follow certain aspects, if not most, of the law. But, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (Rom. 8:3-4)
Good bit of Romans. What about the passage when someone asked Jesus if he ought to pay taxes? Jesus replied something like "who is on the face of the coin?"
"Ceaser"
"Then give to Ceaser what is Ceaser's and give to God what is God's". I know there are other passages through out the New Testament explaining the leaders were there by God, and thus we should follow them, however, follow God's Law before the Law of Man. Something deep to consider with the reign of Nero so near.

BigManDave

11-04-2003, 06:50 PM

Exactly. The leaders of our country and other countries were put there for a reason by God; therefore it is our duty to obey them. Unless following their laws means disobeying God. Remember Acts, how the apostles were commanded not to preach the gospel any more? They said, "We ought to obey God rather than men." Now that doesn't give us a license to disregard what laws our leaders establish, but when it comes to spreading the good news, or practicing our faith, no man can stop us from that.

Deenur

11-20-2003, 09:31 AM

Hey Bros...

Glad to see some men who pump iron, but lift up Jesus Christ!

See my transformation from 335 with a 56" waist (no lie) on the website listed on my signature

THANKS

Deen

wildman536

11-20-2003, 11:55 AM

Hey bros Hows It Goin?

Heavily Armed

11-21-2003, 11:01 PM

We must take into consideration that the people in government reflect the people in our society. In an evil society, that doesn't bode well for christians. We elect our leaders. God gives individuals and nations, through our free will, enough rope to hang ourselves. A law, simply by virtue of being passed by a governmental authority, doesn't mean it a just or moral law. The news headlines of late are full of judges making law through twisted interpretations, basing their decisions on personal viewpoints rather than past precedent, history and tradition. We are not bound as citizens to obey unconstitutional law, we the people being final arbitrators of constitutionality. As christians, we are not bound to follow the laws of man over the laws of God. God's laws are supreme. Such a stand invites consequences, to be sure. Jesus was crucified for defying the powers-that-were, to our everlasting gain! Many have been and still will be martyred for the faith. It all comes down to what's the priority in our lives.

We must support those who believe as we do, otherwise, by default, we allow the godless to forge our nation's laws and thusly, our nation's fate before God.

Cogar

11-23-2003, 01:14 PM

Good post, Heavily Armed.

wildman536

11-23-2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Cogar
Good post, Heavily Armed. That was nicely said.

wonderdude2

09-29-2006, 10:13 AM

supersize77

09-29-2006, 10:25 AM

Does anyone else out there feel that as Christians in general, we have fallen short of setting the right example for the world? I mean, we do decently well in heart, soul, and mind, but what about body? "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and BODY"

I just don't see many Christians out there that are making efforts to glorify Jesus through their body. A recent study done by Purdue University said that believers are more likely to be obese than unbelievers. I'm not saying that obesity is the only sign of bad health, but I'm saying that it's definitely a marker that we're not taking care of our earthly vessels.

Anyway, I really want to see this changed. I want to see my Savior glorified through every means possible. Anybody have any ideas on how to raise awareness in the church of this problem?

you're right, alot of christians are grossly out of shape. it's bad stewardship plain and simple...the decision to change is internal and is then mainfeste through a change in behavior and overall lifestyle. also, you ask a good question about how to best raise awarness. you could petition your chruch to have a class on stewardship whihc could emphasize the importance of taking care of everything God has blessed you with, starting with the very thing you have to go through life in...you're own body. talk to the pastor about it, tell him what's own your heart...someone w/a platform like that can really reach alot of people with this message...realistically alot of people will blow it off but if it even inspires a few people to make that internal decision to start taking care of one of the most important things God has blessed us with, it's worth it. in closeing, it's amazing to me that people worry more about their car than their own bodies...car's come and go but you've only got one body and it's impossible to live life for God to the fullest if you're in bad health from poor living.

wonderdude2

09-29-2006, 11:33 AM

"it's amazing to me that people worry more about their car than their own bodies...car's come and go but you've only got one body and it's impossible to live life for God to the fullest if you're in bad health from poor living"

Hadn't thought about that. That's a great thing to bring up.

I've actually talked to one of the pastors at my church (It's a church of 2500, so we have several pastors). He's extremely busy because he has his own national ministry to tend, but he's paid attention to me and has given me a lot of encouragement to try to help raise awareness.

Supersize77, the class on stewardship is a great idea! Thanks for the input.

I really think this is important because I'm confident that the lack of health is a weapon of Satan's. He robs us of energy to use to serve our Lord. "I was going to have my quiet time tonight, but I was too tired" Also, so much of our prayer requests are based upon physical healing.... I feel that we wouldn't need most of the physical healing that we're praying for if we would just eat how God designed us to. I mean, he even gave us specific laws for abundant health in Leviticus. He gave us specific dietary laws, but we have forsaken them saying, "God will take care of my health. I don't need to invest any time in it." ::sigh::

RBEliminator

09-29-2006, 12:10 PM

IMO, I'm taking a body that god has presented me with and trying to maximize it's potential. You only live physically one time and I say why not make the most out of what god has blessed you with. Clearly there are billions of people in the world that do not have the same availability as we do. Look at the middle east, much of Africa and many other "poor" nations. Clearly people in those places do not have access to a gym, food, or resources we do. Let alone most don't even have a clue what bodybuilding is. I feel god gave me my body, my genetics and my potential and has put me in a place where I can succeed and I feel bodybuilding goes hand in hand with that. ;).

I also want to state that life has all kinds of choices to make, why not make a choice that will show determination and perseverence. Do others look at me weird? Of course, but life isn't about the world and what others think... In the bible it states if you choose to live the way of the world then you choose to live in suffering, not to mention one will not end up in heaven. Also, by no means am I a perfect Christian, I don't always make it to church and I forget to pray, but Christians aren't perfect, they sin just like everyone. But the difference is they ASK for forgiveness.

Kyle - BodynSport Training

jake24

09-29-2006, 03:01 PM

Hey, guys you may want to check out the (new christian thread) in the religion and politics forum thats where many fellow bodybuilding christians hang out and fellowship you guys would fit right in.

Dr. Flex

09-30-2006, 09:47 PM

I wouldn't exactly call myself a Christian, but I do believe in Christ Jesus... I've experienced his hand as well, and I do miss it... :(

burlyman619

09-08-2007, 07:54 AM

are there any christian folks out there that can assist me in my new bulking diet. i have the basics down i just need a little help. please PM me. thank you

wellbuilt

09-08-2007, 01:46 PM

I wouldn't exactly call myself a Christian, but I do believe in Christ Jesus... I've experienced his hand as well, and I do miss it... :(

Hey all. I'm new to this thread. The conversation looks interesting. I'll put this on my list of stops.

Dr. Flex. I think there might be more to your comment than I read. Your remark reminds me that sometimes I don't like telling folks I'm a Christian. Sometimes I'd rather be called a Jesus Freak. In our society, the word "Christian" comes with good feelings, bad feelings, wrong definitions, blah, blah, blah. When I say, "yes I'm a Christian," I'm never sure what the person "heard" me say. The opposite is also true, when someone says, "I'm a Christian" I'm never sure what they mean.

Christian
Jesus Freak
Child of the Most High God
Lover of the Anchient of Days
Follower of Yahweh

How can I choose a name so that it will be meaningful to the person I am speaking to? I guess I'll trust Jesus on that one.

Dr. Flex, I have experienced the hand of Jesus. It is sweet, gentle, healing, firm, kind, and there just aren't enough books to describe him or how much he loves us and longs for us.

Stewart

Maritimer

09-09-2007, 12:10 PM

Hi, brothers,

As I was reading the last reply (how do we call ourselves: Christians? Followers? etc.), this phrase struck me: they'll know we are Christian by our love.

Perhaps it's less important that we figure out what to answer when one asks us, and important to live in a way that the question wouldn't be necessary.

Found this thread by accident. Glad I did.

Typing from Canada, boys. Rather new to "body building", and I like that here, on this thread and others, I can encourage and be encourage to "build up the body of Christ--His church".

Have a great day, my brothers. I missed Thursday and Friday's planned workouts--had a smashing headache heading home from work and Friday was just too busy.

"Talk" again. I only read the replys on the "last" page so I've got some catching up to do.

Later, bros.

Dale

ArchAngelz7

09-10-2007, 02:01 AM

Hello everyone, I am a Christian living in singapore. I am currently doing the rippetoes program to get bigger and stronger. I don't really aspire to be a bodybuilder, but I do want to get stronger and in shape. Can I join you guys?

boricuabody

09-10-2007, 07:27 AM

Hey bros Just stopping in to see what was going on I love the idea of getting togther and not only talking about what makes us special but also to give praise to his name

wellbuilt

09-10-2007, 05:48 PM

Perhaps it's less important that we figure out what to answer when one asks us, and important to live in a way that the question wouldn't be necessary. --Dale

Dale, I was thinking this afternoon about what you said above. You have said something helpful to me. It IS our behavior, attitude, decisions, etc. that give whatever word(s) we use their meaning. Thus, If someone is drawn to the evidence of Christ living in me, then what I call myself has meaning based on that. The "title" doesn't confer the meaning. It's the other way around.

"In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." Matt 5:16

Thanks man. Stewart

wellbuilt

09-10-2007, 05:52 PM

Hello everyone, I am a Christian living in singapore....Can I join you guys?

Hey bros Just stopping in to see what was going on I love the idea of getting togther....

ArchAngelz7 & boricuabody, Welcome, come one in. I'm a fairly new poster here myself.

Stewart

fabiolas4

09-13-2007, 05:49 PM

im catholic and i gotta say i love the idea of christian bb's keeping in touch. im still working on my success and i gotta long way to go!

Unique_weed

12-23-2009, 05:04 AM

Have a Merry Christmas all!!! Pray with me that I can focus on loosing fat and buidling muscle. I recently made some schedule changes which should allow for more dedication to working out consistency.

God Bless
Darnell

kauaiboi

12-24-2009, 12:10 AM

Christian BB here....."Building a bigger temple of Christ, one rep at a time..."--Me

NorCalJR

12-24-2009, 06:56 AM

Christian BB here....."Building a bigger temple of Christ, one rep at a time..."--Me

Awesome quote my man...

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!

kauaiboi

12-24-2009, 09:09 PM

thank you...Merry Christmas everyone

Addictedlifter

12-24-2009, 09:23 PM

Totally down for this guys.

Non-denominational. I believe in God, know he is in my life, and strive to achieve goals in accordance with his plans for me.

Also, been lifting for a several years with the idea of getting bigger, eating clean meals - bodybuilding - type training. I am more interested now in becoming a professional volleyball player (AVP), so my training and diet reflect this; different lifestyle.

Can't wait to see where this thread goes! Merry X-mas!

imryanblank

12-25-2009, 09:45 AM

Hey guys.
Add me on bodyspace and we'll keep in toutch.
God Bless

NorCalJR

12-28-2009, 11:34 AM

How was everyones Christmas ?

survivorman

12-28-2009, 12:52 PM

Just like to add my name to this :) It was my faith that has lead me to bodybuilding/strength building, I am in the process of turning my life around and upside down. I could not of done any of this without my faith in and on Jesus Christ.

Praise God.

Bulldawg491

12-29-2009, 02:23 PM

pendarvis

12-30-2009, 05:27 AM

I'm all for it. Hope everyone has a safe and blessed New Year!

NorCalJR

12-30-2009, 06:29 AM

Hey guys well im new to this site and new to bodybuilding but its good to find other christians here ive been thinking about starting a kind of bodybuilding ministry were a couple of christians become work out partners movtivate each other in lifting and are acountable to each other in christ. but being so new to all this i dont konw lemme know what you guys think of that idea

sounds like a cool idea...

wanted to ask you guys to pray for me a bit, I've been real angry and depressed lately and don't even know why. Also I'm at a point in my life where a million decisions need to be made and I just need God's guidance to make them. Also to top it all off I need help breaking out of my shell a bit I'm a real quiet guy ( to new people or in large groups) always have been and I don't want to be like that anymore.

I hope everyone has a happy new year and if anyone needs prayer for anything I'll gladly pray for you aswell.

Calborn

01-05-2010, 10:11 AM

Hey brothers, how are ya'll doin?

MultiSport33

02-16-2010, 08:31 PM

New to BB.com, and I'm a strong Christian. My dad is a pastor, and being a strong Christian as a teenager in these times isn't the easiest thing, but God has given us this short life on earth to glorify him! Walking the Christian walk beats any max on bench, squat, or anything on this earth for that matter!

Stay strong Brothers!

DHFX

02-17-2010, 05:18 AM

Brothers!... It's been too long.
Good to see you gathered here.

NorCalJR

02-17-2010, 05:43 AM

Brothers!... It's been too long.
Good to see you gathered here.

Hows it going?

916stang

03-13-2010, 01:50 AM

checking in. seems silent on here.

spent few years out of the church but now im back.

NorCalJR

03-13-2010, 01:57 AM

checking in. seems silent on here.

spent few years out of the church but now im back.

well welcome back man

Reach_Yeah

03-13-2010, 02:00 AM

Haven't posted in this thread before. Just came in to say hi!

TimmyIrish

03-17-2010, 02:56 PM

Count me in!

millerbrendan

03-17-2010, 06:32 PM

I'm looking for someone that I can chat about workouts and progress with. I live in a small town and can't find anyone that is deticated to or cares about working out. I found a guy at church but he is a hit and miss sort. Anyone interested?

kauaiboi

03-18-2010, 03:49 AM

dont know if i posted here or not, but here i am..haha

bwtur88

03-18-2010, 07:41 PM

Just wanted to drop in and say hey to all my bodybuilding brethern in Christ. What's up!

ballinfool

03-18-2010, 07:44 PM

count me in

charlie335

03-18-2010, 07:52 PM

just saw this thread, count me in. Anyone here from Texas?

Reach_Yeah

03-19-2010, 01:44 AM

Reading 'The Experimental Knowledge of Christ and additional sermons' of John Elias currently - would recommend to anyone!

bwtur88

03-23-2010, 08:29 PM

Hey brothers,

If you guys are looking for a bible study that goes through the entire Word of God, check out Thru the Bible's website. All the bible study materials are free. It is done by Dr. J. Vernon McGee who recorded the lessons back in the 70's I believe. He has since passed away, but his teachings, in my opinion are outstanding. He goes through every single book in a 5 year time span. I am almost at the end of my first run and cannot tell you how much I have learned. I'm ready to do it again. The daily lessons are about 30 minutes. You can download the mp3's at the site. Just thought I would share this since this has brought me so much joy. Got any questions...message me.

Yours In Christ,

Brandon

MrMadChef

03-24-2010, 09:59 PM

Diving into the discussion. CANNONBALL!!!! :-D

Anyway, if you're looking for a good online Bible, youversion.com is one of the best I've found. I even have the app for my blackberry, which makes following a reading plan really easy. Not that reading the Bible should neccessarily be easy... wait, I'm rambling, and that's a whole other subject.

Looking forward to the discussions!

cd24747

01-13-2011, 12:10 PM

I'm in. No replies since March?

cd24747

01-19-2011, 04:08 PM

I'm in. No replies since March?

bump

Drakzen

01-20-2011, 09:38 AM

Im going through some amazing body transformations and i give all the credit to Jesus for he is my strength

DeTazMan

01-20-2011, 09:44 AM

had to get in on this. It is because of my faith that I have been able to survive the trials and challenges I have been through

natethelegend

01-21-2011, 07:47 PM

come on guys I listen to Christian podcasts while at the gym!

Unique_weed

01-28-2011, 04:37 AM

Greetings to all you believing folks and those who might just be curious about Christ. Truly I can say that after all my health problems, my mother passing, and financial trials, God is still sustaining me through it all. I've had some setbacks, but I won't sitback and give up. I'm encouraged because I know the victory is mine. Just started working out again this week and I can feel it...LOL!!! Everyone pray for me and most all YOU be encouraged in reaching your goals and remember you can do all things through HIM that strenthens you!!!

lufkinpanther

01-28-2011, 09:09 AM

Every good and perfect gift comes from above!

psalm118v14

01-28-2011, 08:34 PM

Good to see Christians on here encouraging one another. I do speaking on how the Body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and that should be our first reason for caring for it. Also, as some others said, we need to be good stewards with what God gave us. I encourage others to keep balance as it can be easy to be "obsessed" with working out and with our bodies to "look good". Remember that anything can become an "idol". I often need to keep this "in check" and encourage you all to pray and ask the Lord to show you if some realignment needs to take place. Be blessed you all'

AOD86GT

01-28-2011, 08:36 PM

Amen...

NorCalJR

01-31-2011, 11:46 AM

cgispy

02-01-2011, 11:35 AM

Hey guys its been a while...my latest video is now online!

BACKGROUND INFO:
Genre: Music video/Inspirational/Christian
Artist: IZ-REAL, Pastor Jeremy Johnson
Album: Loser?

First "official" music video I've directed, all sets costumes and extras were done by other members of this amazing youth group here in town. shot all on one camera using a Canon 7D.

Even if your not a believer or into rap I'd appreciate it if you could give it a few minutes of your time.

I worked as the Director, cinematographer, producer, and editor

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Nicely done. Love the energy of it all.

psalm118v14

02-17-2011, 09:05 PM

jake24

02-18-2011, 07:19 PM

natethelegend

03-04-2011, 04:29 PM

Guys when I pray before I workout, I have no idea, why but my workout goes way better, I even up the weights way higher than normal. Well I do know why, Jesus will do anything for the good of those who love Him.

dex26

03-04-2011, 08:44 PM

checking in. seems silent on here.

spent few years out of the church but now im back.

Same here, except i'm still in search of a church that i want to attend to. Still feeling out certain churches.

survivorman

08-13-2011, 03:09 PM

lo all, im glad to see you all fighting the good fight. God Speed you all.

liberatusdeus

08-14-2011, 08:51 PM

Any Mars Hill attendees?

Lathareo82

08-19-2011, 02:32 PM

What's goin' on Brothers? Oh, and in :)

Big_Bully

08-19-2011, 02:48 PM

Hey! follow me on twitter! @DanielHigdon

TommyTitus

08-20-2011, 09:38 PM

Just checking in, great thread idea!

Reach_Yeah

08-21-2011, 03:05 AM

Glad to see there is some activity in his thread!

redswr

08-21-2011, 04:06 AM

wazzup guys! To God be the glory!

Reach_Yeah

08-24-2011, 12:25 AM

Been a Christian for about 15 years but after some chats with my pastor am finally looking to be baptised and first official church membership!

redswr

08-24-2011, 02:57 AM

Been a Christian for about 15 years but after some chats with my pastor am finally looking to be baptised and first official church membership!
Awesome brother!

APGeofrey

08-24-2011, 07:58 AM

To God be the glory!

Really, to God Almighty be the glory.

I am in and kudos to the person that bumped this 2003 thread. It was already dead some where.

But as any other thing that is in Chris, it always rises again.

AOD86GT

08-24-2011, 08:37 PM

Really, to God Almighty be the glory.

I am in and kudos to the person that bumped this 2003 thread. It was already dead some where.

But as any other thing that is in Chris, it always rises again.

Keeping the faith. Peace be with you my fellow "Believers"!

mgrant88

08-27-2011, 05:03 AM

SimRad

08-27-2011, 08:51 AM

Hey bros!
Wouldn't it be cool for some of us Christian bros to get together on a thread and get connected to other bros in Christ who build their body for God's glory! Can't wait to hear from ya!

-Dutchman2000 <><

__________________
Day by day I'm growing stronger You are right that it would be a great idea for all Christians bros to come together in a single thread.

So I am in.

Reach_Yeah

08-28-2011, 01:17 PM

Hey, love this thread. Nice to see a thread like this to support our brothers and sisters.

I have a question though. I've been having some convictions and was wondering how others address this. I know that living a bodybuilding life mirrors many things about the Christian life. Discipline, hardwork, and treating your body with respect. Even so far as maintaining a positive frame of mind. However how do we address the apparent selfish aspects of Bodybuilding, the parts that seam so vain. How do we address Phil 2:3 do nothing selfish? How do you serve Christ with BB? At least for me, I'm a soldier, fitness is an important part of my life, and to a degree we can say that our fitness serves others by ensure our health. I'm just curious what your thoughts are and how others have addressed this.

Fair questions. I think its about getting the balance right. If it becomes an obsession or detracts from our faith or becomes more important in our life than God then its a problem. For me, if I'm able to work out I feel more able to do more things, feel more positive about going out, going to chuch and the meetings etc. As long as it doesn't stop or interfere with my time for worship, prayer, study etc then it only compliments my Christian life. It also can help fill some down time in a positive way. Idle hands do the devil's work, and all that!

Dallinpdx

09-11-2011, 11:51 PM

Brothers in Christ! it's good to see this thread! I'm truly encouraged and inspired! I'm just now getting back to body building, use to be a power lifter, football player and have just let myself go over the years. I'm looking forward to getting back into optimal shape and would really appreciate any encouragement over the next few months and years! Feel free to friend me! Want to get some pics up shortly! May God bless you in all your pursuits!

rbatson123

09-17-2011, 08:49 AM

I am a fellow christian too and I'm looking for done christian bodybuilding support so if you are wise in the muscle building department hit me up or friend request me, like the bible says "ask and you shell receive" do I'm on board with becoming friends with any if my fertile christian brothers and if your in the california area even better we probably work out together. Hope to hear from anyone soon God Bless & Keep Lifting!

rbatson123

09-18-2011, 12:40 PM

Another point to consider is that God is pleased when we are good stewards of what He has blessed us with. This definitely includes our bodies, which are actually our most intimate earthly possesion since we go through this life living inside them-might as well make it as excellent as possible. At the same time training and feeding our bodies should not be our primary purpose in life. I beleive balance is the key and I am prayerfully and hopefully improving in this area everyday.

I'm with you bro balance is everything whether it be balance in working out and starting in shape or with staying spiritually balanced. Best of Lucky to you and gaining mass, if that's your goal, your pics look good God Bless bro

Vzn

09-18-2011, 11:15 PM

Any Rock Harbor attendees out there? HB or Central?

Vzn

09-18-2011, 11:17 PM

Any Mars Hill attendees?
I don't, but I'm a big fan of you guys. I watch Mark all the time. - repped.
By the way brah, you're aesthetically looking pretty good.

Valenox

09-20-2011, 08:00 PM

It's good to see other Christians who are strong in body and spirit! I believe God wants us to take care of our bodies so we are better tools in His hands. We can't be very effective servants if we can't serve our fellow men.

God bless, guys!

triplewhammy

09-27-2011, 10:39 AM

Thought all you guys might enjoy this:

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Josh

Mrzaraki7

10-03-2011, 07:29 AM

Great thread, and glad I finally found one that uplifts God. I'm trying to have renew my relationship with Christ but sometimes it can feel like everyone else is going the opposite way. It gives me great hope to find others that share the two great things I love, God, and Bodybuilding.

Greshamguy

10-16-2011, 09:39 AM

Im on board :)

akayjin

10-18-2011, 06:46 PM

I am in!!

potatoe

10-29-2011, 03:35 PM

ohai

vegliv

11-20-2011, 01:58 PM

I'm no 'bro' but I think this thread is great, as a follower of Christ, I enjoyed reading peoples questions, answers, struggles and convictions about physique and faith. Thanks!

SaliorUSN

11-20-2011, 02:39 PM

In,
what's up my bro's and sisters in Christ, how was your sunday?

UrbanArtifact

11-21-2011, 04:47 PM

Thanks for the reponse. Yeah actually I had that talk with someone else before and they told me something similar to what you said. So I just need to change my way of thinking.
Just make sure body building doesn't become your new god.

stephanielynn76

11-21-2011, 04:56 PM

In,
what's up my bro's and sisters in Christ, how was your sunday?

In too...
my Sunday was great... I always look forward to seeing my church peeps... met some friends for lunch after :)

DocSI

11-21-2011, 06:07 PM

In! Happy to see this thread revived from 03... impressive!

I think this thread would be a great place for people to throw out whatever they find in their journey with Christ. Whether it's BB related or not! Whether it's questions about faith, local meet ups, prayer requests... bring em!

hammeredbyear

11-21-2011, 08:22 PM

Stopping in say hi and hope God is giving all of you some great blessing this time of the year.
I have only been working out regualry for the past 2 months. Plan to keep it up and make some musle gains.
May God bless all of you.

hammeredbyear

11-22-2011, 05:27 PM

Have any of you read The Story the bible as one continuing story of GOD and his people?
Im about a 1/4 of the wat through and it is great.

RagingClue

11-22-2011, 05:33 PM

Christian misc'er checkin in. Good to see you all

hammeredbyear

11-23-2011, 08:19 AM

What do you listen to while you work out?
I like War Of Ages. They keep me moving and working hard. Impending Doom is good also for me.

NorCalJR

11-24-2011, 07:44 PM

Happy thanksgiving!!!

http://vimeo.com/32610573

potatoe

11-26-2011, 01:27 AM

Buuuuuuuuummmmmmp

triplewhammy

11-26-2011, 05:17 AM

What do you listen to while you work out?
I like War Of Ages. They keep me moving and working hard. Impending Doom is good also for me.

TFK, Skillet, Kutless, Disciple, RED, 12 Stones, One Minute Halo, 7eventh Time Down, Demon Hunter.

Lecrae, Trip Lee, Tedashii, PRo, Andy Mineo, Brothatone.

DocSI

11-26-2011, 10:51 AM

What do you listen to while you work out?
I like War Of Ages. They keep me moving and working hard. Impending Doom is good also for me.

I listen to a bunch of different stuff, depending on the workout and depending on the mood. ;)

This isn't really "lifting" material, but I come from an endurance background... There's this podcast called Breakaway Ministries that is pretty cool. Does an amazing job of translating the lessons in the bible to real life, and real life for someone in their college to 30s age group. I listen to that all the time during long runs and long rides (and long drives ;) )... goood stuff!

potatoe

11-26-2011, 02:50 PM

Don't really listen to anything while lifting. Just what ever the gym has on, often time is garbage. But then its funny because they'll have ads (radio) about Christ (srs). lol.

hammeredbyear

11-26-2011, 06:49 PM

DocSI I will have to check out the pocast. It might be good for my cardio days.

DocSI

11-29-2011, 03:04 PM

So this could be a fun one...

Do you have a bible verse that really inspires you or gives you strength in your training (or just life)? I have two tattoos - well 3 actually, but only 2 that have a biblical reference - that sort of wrap up my values / faith / life.

[edited to add: Hhahaha maybe once I'm allowed to post PICTURES I can get them up. I gotta go make 6 more posts. ;) ]

Philippians 4:13 - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me
(except I have it in spanish... todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece)

and

Corinthians 9:24-27 - Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
(I don't actually have all of that inked on!! Just the "Corinthians 9:24-27" part.) :)