Calling all OL'ers......:)

[MNCurves]

Today will be my first day back to training Olympic Lifting. May just do some power cleans and hang cleans ..just need to ease myself back into it again. I did an hour of cardio this morning followed by my upper body workout (plus 4 sets of 6 pull-ups...whoot) but I think I'll be fine by tonight again. Can't wait!!

[someonefat]

took few days off due to minor injury and other issues and 85%+ feel super heavy-barley hit 80% of my snatch max today and was sloppy- but my technique feels smoother on lighter weights due to not being sore at all. Whats good way to get used to the feeling of heavy weights again in the lifts? Heavy dl's many? Or work on the power movements maybe to work on speed?

I was working in 90%+ range almost daily no problem before took about week off

[eyeoftheworld]

took few days off due to minor injury and other issues and 85%+ feel super heavy-barley hit 80% of my snatch max today and was sloppy- but my technique feels smoother on lighter weights due to not being sore at all. Whats good way to get used to the feeling of heavy weights again in the lifts? Heavy dl's many? Or work on the power movements maybe to work on speed?

I was working in 90%+ range almost daily no problem before took about week off

You will just have to re-acclimate slowly, I suppose.

[King922]

Youll be good in a day or two just go heavy.

[eyeoftheworld]

On a similar note to Someone, I'm just taking an easy week until Saturday. Power versions of the lifts and pulling, no squatting to rest my knees and get rid of all the nagging aches and pains that have built up.

I normally just ice it, take my BCAAs/protein and fish oils and call it a day. However, it has been sapping my strength lately and my recovery has been ****ty. My cold is pretty much gone too which is great, but I have been having back spasms.

[slowman41]

On a similar note to Someone, I'm just taking an easy week until Saturday. Power versions of the lifts and pulling, no squatting to rest my knees and get rid of all the nagging aches and pains that have built up.

I normally just ice it, take my BCAAs/protein and fish oils and call it a day. However, it has been sapping my strength lately and my recovery has been ****ty. My cold is pretty much gone too which is great, but I have been having back spasms.

you would probably be better with full versions of the lifts at around 70% if you want a lighter workload. Make sure to do a few sets with just the bar and then add some weight.

Power versions are gonna be similar to squatting to parallel, meaning more stress on the knees.

[boykid28]

Did a squat session last night. Felt awesome. I hit a new pr in the full squat. 385lbs/175kg. It felt slow but every1 told me it was good. I guess when ur used 2 moving like a rabbit in the ol lifts everyday u feel like a turtle when ur lifting limit weight 1nce or 2ice a week in the squat.

[slowman41]

my calves have been sore lately from squatting.

Is this normal? I had taken 1-2weeks off from squatting so I'm wondering if its just my body not being used to squatting, or if its because I'm drifting forward. I seem to be keeping the weight back on the heels.

[boykid28]

it could be that ur knees are going to far forward so its putting more stress on your calf. or maybe it could be cause your calfs r not up to par with the rest of your legs. like many peoples grip/lower back in the deadlift.

[crackyflipside]

Try foam rolling first thing every session. My knees only bug me in snatches for volume.

Just finished squatting about 80 times today. 30 front squats and 49 back squats. My legs feel awesome; the more volume with heavy weight I do, the better my legs feel afterwards. Really confusing. Anyways, can't wait to get some bumpers and experience Oly overdose.

[someonefat]

Try foam rolling first thing every session. My knees only bug me in snatches for volume.

Just finished squatting about 80 times today. 30 front squats and 49 back squats. My legs feel awesome; the more volume with heavy weight I do, the better my legs feel afterwards. Really confusing. Anyways, can't wait to get some bumpers and experience Oly overdose.

lol same usually on later sets when tired and catch wide and knees come in a bit on way up.

Also did ton of volume after missing again 85% snatch. Ended up doing like 20 sets of 2-5 reps-various weights light to semi heavy-. Feel exhausted now didn't even do anything afterwards. Might go back to gym and just do some squats though.

having your own set is awesome cracky I just go out all the time and do sets with light weights for form when bored. Only thing that sucks is that I dont have enough weight to do back squats at my gym so can only do front squats and light back squats for volume. Have to do heavy sets at local gym.

also straps make doing lots of snatches awesome I use them for pretty much every set after my first few heavy attempts. Really allows you to do ton of volume.

[eyeoftheworld]

I always have stiffness in the back of my right knee, but just that side. Why is that? I wear sleeves, roll, ice and take fish oils and glucosamine and yet it never goes away. It just kind of fluctuates and it often pops.

I am on my feet a lot at work but I wear flat shoes and knee sleeves.

[someonefat]

I always have stiffness in the back of my right knee, but just that side. Why is that? I wear sleeves, roll, ice and take fish oils and glucosamine and yet it never goes away. It just kind of fluctuates and it often pops.

I am on my feet a lot at work but I wear flat shoes and knee sleeves.

I have the same problem on my left knee but very minor. I think has to do with my left leg is my strong leg which I use to push forward on heavy jerks ext. Stuff that has helped is narrowing my stance in squats and alternating leg for jerks. I use to go wider and my knees would come in on heavy sets which doesn't happen as much now that more narrow. Also when did jerks only would push my left leg forward on every rep.

You could have damaged it though on bad set just be careful and watch your form is most important. Also stretch it out a lot look up various stretches can do for knees.

[eyeoftheworld]

I have the same problem on my left knee but very minor. I think has to do with my left leg is my strong leg which I use to push forward on heavy jerks ext. Stuff that has helped is narrowing my stance in squats and alternating leg for jerks. I use to go wider and my knees would come in on heavy sets which doesn't happen as much now that more narrow. Also when did jerks only would push my left leg forward on every rep.

You could have damaged it though on bad set just be careful and watch your form is most important. Also stretch it out a lot look up various stretches can do for knees.

Well, Saturday is apparently a no-go. I usually do my heavy lifts at a good gym but can't because my knee is apparently hurt. It is stiff and sore and I'm limping a little. I'm icing it and taking epsom salt baths as well as extra glucosamine and fish oil.

Likely I hurt it last week when I was sick/under-recovered. My back is also acting-up too. I think it might be the split-jerking as it is on the side I split forwards with.

I need to figure out how to train without hurting myself every damn month which causes me to lose a week. I do not know how to cycle training and don't have a coach. Any suggested reading?

[someonefat]

Well, Saturday is apparently a no-go. I usually do my heavy lifts at a good gym but can't because my knee is apparently hurt. It is stiff and sore and I'm limping a little. I'm icing it and taking epsom salt baths as well as extra glucosamine and fish oil.

Likely I hurt it last week when I was sick/under-recovered. My back is also acting-up too. I think it might be the split-jerking as it is on the side I split forwards with.

I need to figure out how to train without hurting myself every damn month which causes me to lose a week. I do not know how to cycle training and don't have a coach. Any suggested reading?

if think its so bad can't even do squats without pain then maybe check out doctor. I take super cissus-powder version for cheaper- anytime my joints are hurting and seems to help a lot I just dump a ton of it in my protein shakes. Tastes like ass but feel helps my joints along with lots of water fish oil and stretching after I take a shower ext.

I don't have coach either, I Just go as heavy as I can in either cleans or snatch-usually snatch- followed by power version of the lift with lighter weights then some heavy pulls and squats. Try and throw in upper body like jerks and overhead presses even bench 2x a week also. My form improved over the months just by doing the lifts so much and watching videos ext and having my friend- who is coached to do the lifts for track and field- workout with me once in awhile.

I think its best to find your own way though I started out 3x a week doing just power snatches and cleans 5x5 heavy as could go along with 5x5 squats as heavy as could go-doing back and upperbody bodybuilding stuff on other 2 days with 2 days rest-. Which has evolved to everyday full lifts-alternate snatch or clean- as heavy as can go followed by volume, pulls and squats. I think the major key is just to push yourself as hard as possible always and make sure doing full lifts and squats. Also try to realize where you need help and do supplementary exercises to help those areas.

Hit 85% today in snatch after missing it last 2 days but was so sore from heavy volume other day that only did two lighter sets of 3 reps and finished off with some squats to heavy single and 2 lighter sets of 5. Might go back do some upper body in a bit.

[boykid28]

just out of curiosity, do you think supplementing with green tea would help you guys recover from the knee problems and aches you guys r having from doing heavy squats and high volume work. personally i tried doing high volume work with the squats and i couldn't handle it so i reduced my volume drastically but i instead did squats more frequently and it works for me. i guess my body doesn't respond to high volume work.

[someonefat]

just out of curiosity, do you think supplementing with green tea would help you guys recover from the knee problems and aches you guys r having from doing heavy squats and high volume work. personally i tried doing high volume work with the squats and i couldn't handle it so i reduced my volume drastically but i instead did squats more frequently and it works for me. i guess my body doesn't respond to high volume work.

there is a adaption period to he high volume at first you will feel horrible and joints will ache. But it will drastically reduce as your body gets used to it. I mean I still get sore and feel beat up from time to time but no real pain in joints that had when first started going really high volume.

I only drink tea and water-well and alcohol but limit that only too weekends- so it could help me. I think green tea tastes really good and has many benefits so I drink it as much as I can.

[James_Byrne]

bombed for the first time today :| ****

[crackyflipside]

just out of curiosity, do you think supplementing with green tea would help you guys recover

Wouldn't hurt. I intensely support supplementing with high quality fish oil. I take about 4g of omega 3's daily. If you take cheap brand of fish oil it could be around 15 capsules daily.

[eyeoftheworld]

Wouldn't hurt. I intensely support supplementing with high quality fish oil. I take about 4g of omega 3's daily. If you take cheap brand of fish oil it could be around 15 capsules daily.

You can take 8-10 grams a day if your inflammation is really bad.

[ehlpitel]

Does anyone burp and taste fish oil after taking so much?

I think it's been happening to me lately.

[someonefat]

Does anyone burp and taste fish oil after taking so much?

I think it's been happening to me lately.

a little i take atleast 5 grams daily upwards of 10+

[ehlpitel]

Ha, yeah, I'll burp and go WTF, when did I eat fish.....ohhh...

[eyeoftheworld]

Ha, yeah, I'll burp and go WTF, when did I eat fish.....ohhh...

If you take cheap **** then you will.

[ehlpitel]

Hmm, it's not a really cheap brand.

[slowman41]

I've had the burps with cheap brands and not so cheap brands.

I think its worse with the cheaper brands though.

[crackyflipside]

Say you max out FS at 125kg a given week. Then you add band tension so at the bottom of the squat the weight is 125kg but at the top the band tension makes the weight equivalent to 170kg, why even bother doing regular front squats anymore?




I've had the burps with cheap brands and not so cheap brands.
No burps with that DHA-500 fish oil. From my experience, fish oils low omega 3 (cheap) = burps.

[slowman41]

No burps with that DHA-500 fish oil. From my experience, fish oils low omega 3 (cheap) = burps.

yeah I guess you're right, haven't really noticed. I think I had some burps with the carlsons super DHA though, which is supposed to be one of the best brands (although, not as bad as with the supermarket stuff)

[eyeoftheworld]

yeah I guess you're right, haven't really noticed. I think I had some burps with the carlsons super DHA though, which is supposed to be one of the best brands (although, not as bad as with the supermarket stuff)

Ascenta's Nutrasea is what I take. It's the first liquid I have used and no fishy burps. It actually doesn't taste bad at all.

[crackyflipside]

yeah I guess you're right, haven't really noticed. I think I had some burps with the carlsons super DHA though, which is supposed to be one of the best brands (although, not as bad as with the supermarket stuff)

I remember that liquid stuff, lemon burps come to mind LOL

[boykid28]

i have tried the vitamin shoppe mega fish oil kind with added vitamin E and it wasn't that bad. and i didnt have that many fish burps. i was taking like 10-15 grams a day at that time. now that i think about it idk why i was taking so much. o well. i dont think there is an overdose for fish oil. i've heard/seen people taking 15-30g of fish oil daily saying that it helped them shed fat.

[slowman41]

new squat PR of 315 last night. Tried for 325 but didn't make it past the sticking point. Maybe next time.

[NorwichGrad]

Hi Gang,

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[slowman41]

I have a pinched nerve or something in my left trap area. Entire left arm is tingly/painful/etc.

its making me insane

[crackyflipside]

http://weightliftingexchange.com/

Who would want to hack that site?

[eyeoftheworld]

You know what pisses me off? People telling me lifting is a waste of time. Just because I choose to devote an hour, three days a week to not being a weak fat-body doesn't mean I waste my time.

What the hell else should I be doing, playing video games and smoking ganja while eating cheetos and getting orange dick syndrome?

[slowman41]

lmao @ orange dick syndrome

the hell with them man, they're just jealous. When you can pick up wimminz and overhead press them, you'll care even less what people say/think.

[boykid28]

You know what pisses me off? People telling me lifting is a waste of time. Just because I choose to devote an hour, three days a week to not being a weak fat-body doesn't mean I waste my time.

What the hell else should I be doing, playing video games and smoking ganja while eating cheetos and getting orange dick syndrome?



so true man. i hate people coming up to me saying "what stack u taking? why u doing this?that stuff is dangerous, isnt it? you should use a spotter!"
i know its annoying but i try to ignore them.

[c00lrabbit]

so true man. i hate people coming up to me saying "what stack u taking? why u doing this? because i like it and compete in the sport that stuff is dangerous, isnt it? no you should use a spotter! dont need one"
i know its annoying but i try to ignore them.

problem solvedd. just give terse responses that dont make yourself sound pompous and they'll leave ya alone. i've never really had this problem though since im always around other oly lifters or PLers. btw whats a stak?

[slowman41]

btw whats a stak?

http://www.70sbig.com/?p=1810

[ehlpitel]

Not many of my friends really busted my balls about being into lifting, when I first got into it years ago, some of them said I took steroids lol, even though I wasn't even particularly big.

Surprisingly, the biggest opponent to my lifting is my father, always making fun of me, saying he can't believe he raised a son into something so mindless, that machines are able to lift weights heavier than any human could, stuff like that, lol.

Whatever, just it's not a big deal.

[olyw8lifter]

I don't get alot of that stuff, but when my wife tells her coworkers that I lift, they always think I'm much bigger than I am, or that I take steroids (which I never have). It's pretty crazy the impression that Olympic weightlifting has out there, or mis-perception. I just try and tell people what it really is, and not what they think it is.

[slowman41]

I don't get alot of that stuff, but when my wife tells her coworkers that I lift, they always think I'm much bigger than I am, or that I take steroids (which I never have). It's pretty crazy the impression that Olympic weightlifting has out there, or mis-perception. I just try and tell people what it really is, and not what they think it is.

its not the connotation that "olympic weightlifting" has, people hear "weightlifting" and immediately think oiled up muscleheads grunting and yelling.

[slowman41]

i have tried the vitamin shoppe mega fish oil kind with added vitamin E and it wasn't that bad. and i didnt have that many fish burps. i was taking like 10-15 grams a day at that time. now that i think about it idk why i was taking so much. o well. i dont think there is an overdose for fish oil. i've heard/seen people taking 15-30g of fish oil daily saying that it helped them shed fat.

I found out the "hard way" that there is a such thing as too much fish oil. Not fun, trust me :)

[crackyflipside]

I found out the "hard way" that there is a such thing as too much fish oil. Not fun, trust me :)

One day I took a bit more than 10g, ended up having oil in the toilet. Pretty gross.

[someonefat]

wow just after one callus has fully healed on my right hand I tear another one today

doing heavy pulls everyday is tearing up my hands straps don't protect that much

now have to go light for next few days before can handle feeling of heavy weight again

[olyw8lifter]

its not the connotation that "olympic weightlifting" has, people hear "weightlifting" and immediately think oiled up muscleheads grunting and yelling.

Either that, or the Alexeyev's of the 70's and 80's. Most people I talk to only know about Olympic lifting through the super heavyweights and don't realize there are weight classes.

[someonefat]

I'm deffenitely in dark times right now. Been doing the broz method-tweaked slightly not as crazy- for last 2-3 months and now really starting to feel destroyed. My whole body is breaking down my back hurts just standing get muscle cramps easily if sit weird way or straighten my leg, flex my calf ext. My knees ache just walking and even sitting surprisingly feel fine when squat or do lifts though since have adrenalin pumping. Elbow aches also sometimes feels like going to break doing snatches. Takes me at least 10 -20 minutes to warm up since its physically impossible to get into squat position unless really warmed up since so stiff. I seem to get new calluses every workout and get massive ones ripped every few weeks more so recently. I trip over my feet routinely because my legs are so sore hard to walk. Been bitch in gym recently because feel so burned out mentally hard to want to do squats after missing lifts and feeling like want to pass out. Might go up to like 60% of my max squat and that feel pretty heavy. The skin of my shoulders and back is raw and callused from so much front squats and back sqauts routinely peels and feels bruised.

basically everything hurts and mentally feel like crap all I want to do is sleep and eat.

I can't hit heavy weights right now but going to try to push the volume more and see how that goes for next few weeks and hopefully heal up some.

[slowman41]

wow just after one callus has fully healed on my right hand I tear another one today

doing heavy pulls everyday is tearing up my hands straps don't protect that much

now have to go light for next few days before can handle feeling of heavy weight again

if you're just doing pulls, use straps.

[slowman41]

One day I took a bit more than 10g, ended up having oil in the toilet. Pretty gross.

haha, this. also, sneaky farts

I figured taking 15g a day, 5g at a time would be good for my pinched nerve... not so much

[crackyflipside]

....I can't hit heavy weights right now but going to try to push the volume more and see how that goes for next few weeks and hopefully heal up some.

Squat for volume, do power snatch and power clean and jerk. It will be less load on your joints, more on your muscles. When you hit some volume PR's and your body feels ready, move back into the maxes. To give you perspective, I still cannot do the volume after maxes consistently and I've been through the dark times before. Now I adapt quicker. On my first run through it took a few months just to do volume work after sort of consistent. When you really feel like crap, just squat enough to get your legs warmed up, empty bar snatch and clean and jerk, and back extensions.

After a while you get pretty numb to it and only feel random stabbing pain in the middle of the night when you are asleep, whenever you take a day off, or have to sit down for longer than an hour without moving your legs around.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif

[slowman41]

brb, stylin on you guys in my new do-wins... picked up the pair NorwichGrad put on ebay, thanks!

[someonefat]

Squat for volume, do power snatch and power clean and jerk. It will be less load on your joints, more on your muscles. When you hit some volume PR's and your body feels ready, move back into the maxes. To give you perspective, I still cannot do the volume after maxes consistently and I've been through the dark times before. Now I adapt quicker. On my first run through it took a few months just to do volume work after sort of consistent. When you really feel like crap, just squat enough to get your legs warmed up, empty bar snatch and clean and jerk, and back extensions.

After a while you get pretty numb to it and only feel random stabbing pain in the middle of the night when you are asleep, whenever you take a day off, or have to sit down for longer than an hour without moving your legs around.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif

hmm like the idea to do more power movements been neglecting them in general so be good to do them again. I would be doing lighter load too so be better on joints. Also probably hit prs in them since haven't done power movements other then in warm up for months.

For squats what kind of volume do you do? Like 10x3, 5x5, 4x12? What set rep combo do you prefer for volume work?

[someonefat]

brb, stylin on you guys in my new do-wins... picked up the pair NorwichGrad put on ebay, thanks!

sweet what color did you get? The newest do win model from pendlaybarbell is current shoe I'm using and best shoe I've owned. -had werksan and old do win in past-

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-10840410867514_2123_9126291

current shoe

[slowman41]

^^^ that one, in white though.

[slowman41]

For squats what kind of volume do you do? Like 10x3, 5x5, 4x12? What set rep combo do you prefer for volume work?

I like sets of 5 a lot for volume work. For more intensity, sets of 3 work well too, Greg Everett seems to be a fan of 10 sets of 3, especially in regards to building mass. Then there is also Dan John who likes 3 sets of 8. Play around a little and see what works/what you like best.

[J.L.C.]

sweet what color did you get? The newest do win model from pendlaybarbell is current shoe I'm using and best shoe I've owned. -had werksan and old do win in past-

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-10840410867514_2123_9126291

current shoe

How high is the heel on those badboys?

[slowman41]

3/4"

I'm interested to see how much of a difference it makes from my VS shoes, which are .95" I think

[someonefat]

I like sets of 5 a lot for volume work. For more intensity, sets of 3 work well too, Greg Everett seems to be a fan of 10 sets of 3, especially in regards to building mass. Then there is also Dan John who likes 3 sets of 8. Play around a little and see what works/what you like best.

yeah I think going to try 5x5 today haven't done more then 3 reps in a long time. Usually warm up doing 3's then move to doubles then singles then done. Going to start with 70% of max today on 5x5 which should be solid workout. Took last 2 days off from back squats-did really light front squats sine knees were bothering me a lot with heavy weight- so this be good way to get used to back squat again.

[ehlpitel]

Finally been making progress on squats, hit 75 for 3x5 and 80 for 2x2, most I've done since I had knee surgery two years ago.

On a side note, I dropped my phone in the toilet last night.

[c00lrabbit]

^^^ that one, in white though.

got the same shoooes. i wish the heel was a little bit taller though...

[ehlpitel]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think the old school VSs that I own have a slightly higher heel.

[crackyflipside]

Cool vid:

SFyv2kkQFV0

[slowman41]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think the old school VSs that I own have a slightly higher heel.

yeah the older VS shoes had a really high heel, but I guess so many people bitched about it that they cut it down to .95" or whatever it is now. The website still lists it as 3.3cm though (1.3").

[J.L.C.]

Cool vid:



What's with the singles? They should be reppin' those lifts til vomit and failure!!


:D

[slowman41]

Cool vid:

[crossfit open vid]

pretty cool. Overall I was pretty disappointed with the piss-poor feed that CF provided for it, I guess they had been touting it for a while too so a ton of people were not happy.

in the vid

1:58 - i think she could have had that if she squatted all the way down.
3:42 - broz would banish him to the squat rack for this!
4:23 - looks like a good example of an early 2nd pull
4:52 - split clean!

[GqArtguy]

Cool vid:

SFyv2kkQFV0

Does anyone know the name of this song?

[boykid28]

I like sets of 5 a lot for volume work. For more intensity, sets of 3 work well too, Greg Everett seems to be a fan of 10 sets of 3, especially in regards to building mass. Then there is also Dan John who likes 3 sets of 8. Play around a little and see what works/what you like best.


on tuesday and thursday's i do max back squat (or atleast to 90%) followed by 10 sets x 3 reps of front squat at c&j max. for some reason, no matter how much weight i put on the bar, im just not good at doing 4 + reps on anything; except for benchpress. i can do 6-7reps at 80-85%max on that but when i do leg strengthening exercises like squat or deadlift i can only do 3-5-reps at 80-85%max. lol, its funny how the exercise i dont do often is the one i have more strength endurance on.



Cool vid:

SFyv2kkQFV0

nice vid. i love the split snatch and split clean. i know its less efficient than the squat clean and squat snatch but it sure is sexier to watch.

[someonefat]

5x5 squats other day at 70% were easy going to try 85% with 10x3 to get used to heavier weights again while still doing volume.

[slowman41]

on tuesday and thursday's i do max back squat (or atleast to 90%) followed by 10 sets x 3 reps of front squat at c&j max. for some reason, no matter how much weight i put on the bar, im just not good at doing 4 + reps on anything; except for benchpress. i can do 6-7reps at 80-85%max on that but when i do leg strengthening exercises like squat or deadlift i can only do 3-5-reps at 80-85%max. lol, its funny how the exercise i dont do often is the one i have more strength endurance on..

yeah if you get used to doing doubles and triples, sets of even 5 are a chore. I guess its more of a conditioning workout or something. If you keep at sets of 5, you'll get used to it again, only takes a day or 2. Then you can go for sets of 8 at 75%! [evil face]

[MadDogMalesh]

Cool vid:

SFyv2kkQFV0

Very sexy vid.

[eyeoftheworld]

Very sexy vid.

I chuckled.

Some of them had solid form, some of them were meh. I like the split-style though.

[3rd pull]

i love the split snatch and split clean. i know its less efficient than the squat clean and squat snatch but it sure is sexier to watch.

really? i think the squat versions look much better

[MadDogMalesh]

I chuckled.

Some of them had solid form, some of them were meh. I like the split-style though.

Yeah the ones with good clean form were really fun to watch. Some of them who failed though Im sure could have completed if they went down farther or not so far and squatted more. Really from what I noticed(no pro here) most of those failed at the bottom of the snatch or clean were more overhead/front squatting could have done some good.

[eyeoftheworld]

Yeah the ones with good clean form were really fun to watch. Some of them who failed though Im sure could have completed if they went down farther or not so far and squatted more. Really from what I noticed(no pro here) most of those failed at the bottom of the snatch or clean were more overhead/front squatting could have done some good.

Lots of early pulling as others here said, too.

[King922]

Great weights were put up nonetheless! :p Also you see bad tech at all meets and I know my technique is worse than lots! Also the split is good for people with shoulder problems where you arent able to do it in a squat!

[J.L.C.]

The snatches that were dropped in front, looked like the bar was forward to me. More squatting isn't necessarily going to fix bumping or leaving the bar out front on the pull.

[boykid28]

Just got back from the gym. Hit a PR in my C&J and total. Did 185lbs/84kg snatch,240lbs/109kg C&J with a total of 425lbs/193kg.

[c00lrabbit]

MggJTEE8tdw
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gettin ready for criollo cup in puerto rico. gonna be a blasst

[olyw8lifter]

Good work c00lrabbit!!:D

[slowman41]

thinking about running smolov

any tips?

[3rd pull]

thinking about running smolov

any tips?

use 90% of your real max. i did that and the introductory and first 2 weeks of the base feel light (but somewhat challenging) and then the 3rd and 4th week really pick up and get heavy. then after that the 2 week switching you feel like your going to lose all your gains after the first week goes by and all your doing is light stuff. stick to the plan though. once the intense phase comes along everything will be heavy and youll be glad you did 90%

i put 40lbs on my max - went from 355 to 405 at 156lbs

[eyeoftheworld]

Well, much to my irritation, I think I might just end up taking the rest of the month off from lifting. My knee was getting better, tried to go heavy and its kind of tweaked, but not as bad as several weeks ago.

I will definitely take the week off from all lifting. Next week I might do something, maybe some dumbbell, pretty-boy crap. I may even do some pulls if I feel up to it, maybe some benching or something.

The pain is now in the inner left knee, about the size of a couple silver dollars. It is stiff and a bit sore but not terrible as with several weeks ago. The PCL (back of the knee) is just a tad bit stiff but not bad at all. It's maybe 10-15% of what it was two or three weeks ago.

[someonefat]

thinking about running smolov

any tips?

use slightly lighter then real max for first run through it

intense phase is really hard and I missed several lifts then. Base is very doable. I wouldn't do any other squat stuff then smolov. I didn't even do oly lifts during the program-other then switching phase- and just ran that program while doing bodybuilding upperbody on days didn't squat to try maximize gains.

I don't remember exactly gains got but think was around 70lbs for full program was extremely happy with gains made and maintained 50lbs of that about month returning to normal program.

[crackyflipside]

thinking about running smolov

any tips?

Don't.

It's boring and kills motivation to do O-lifts.

[slowman41]

Don't.

It's boring and kills motivation to do O-lifts.

hah, valid point.

As for the others I had heard about the 90% of max thing, but wasn't sure if it was common or not.

I might just run the base cycle now, or smolov jr since the full 12 week program will run into christmas and new years. Figuring based on how I like it, I can run the full program next year after the holidays.

looks like I could possibly run smolov jr with the full max, where as with regular smolov it might be a better idea to use max - 20lbs.

[someonefat]

hah, valid point.

As for the others I had heard about the 90% of max thing, but wasn't sure if it was common or not.

I might just run the base cycle now, or smolov jr since the full 12 week program will run into christmas and new years. Figuring based on how I like it, I can run the full program next year after the holidays.

looks like I could possibly run smolov jr with the full max, where as with regular smolov it might be a better idea to use max - 20lbs.

I found russian squat program to be the easiest of the 3 but still gave good results

http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/RussianSquatProgramGenerator.html

base is hard but much easier then intense phase of smolov which I think starts to really push the heavy weights. I used my real max after base for intense phase though so could have contributed to how hard was. But yeah doing 5x5 with 90% of new max after already being fatigued from weeks of hard squatting is not fun.

[slowman41]

I think I'm just gonna run the smolov base meso now using max -20lbs and see what happens.

[someonefat]

sounds good you going to take time off the oly lifts also to maximize squat gains?

Yeah I don't think I'll ever do intense phase of smolov again I missed several lifts then and had awful form on several heavier lifts and felt could have injured myself many times.

newbtime had similar issues running smolov during the intense phase. He got good gains from base and felt alright doing it then went into intense phase and crashed and injured himself.

[slowman41]

sounds good you going to take time off the oly lifts also to maximize squat gains?


probably not lol

I'm running a 3-4day a week program now with pretty light volume, so it should work ok.

once I get into it I imagine I can better gauge my overall possible training load, but for now I'm just gonna stick with what I've been doing.

[slowman41]

^^ lol so much for that plan

I can already tell the 9rep (and prob 7rep) days are going to suck

[olyw8lifter]

^^ lol so much for that plan

I can already tell the 9rep (and prob 7rep) days are going to suck

They really do!! You have to do a decent amount of stretching to get through those days.

[slowman41]

They really do!! You have to do a decent amount of stretching to get through those days.

yeah I usually only squat in sets of 3-5, so just not used to the higher reps I imagine.

inner hamstrings or w/e those muscles are be sore as fuk today

[slowman41]

one day into smolov and already having doubts lol

Mostly because I won't be able to do the classic lifts for 4 weeks, my squat isn't all that bad, and my jerk is low.

To stick it out for the next 4 weeks, or scrap it and keep doing whats been working, while still being able to oly lift...

[eyeoftheworld]

one day into smolov and already having doubts lol

Mostly because I won't be able to do the classic lifts for 4 weeks, my squat isn't all that bad, and my jerk is low.

To stick it out for the next 4 weeks, or scrap it and keep doing whats been working, while still being able to oly lift...

Stop changing your program!

[slowman41]

Stop changing your program!

:D

I think I'm just gonna stick with it, its only 3 weeks. Should help with the lifts anyway

[eyeoftheworld]

:D

I think I'm just gonna stick with it, its only 3 weeks. Should help with the lifts anyway

I just want to get back to lifting properly. **** knows it's been over a month since my knees have gone south. It is getting a bit better but standing at my damn job all day sucks. I try to sit where I can, but I am on my feet 5 hours a day, bare minimum.

I get to miss yet another week. Next week I pray I can at least do pulls and overheads, maybe some power stuff.

[someonefat]

back squats begun to agrivate right side of my right knee yet front sqauts don't seem to bother it at all. Looks like going to take some time off bs and focus primarily on front sqauts.

For some reason my bs stance is more narrow then my front squat stance so feel it in my hips more then used too does anyone else have similar problem? My front squat is absolutely pathetic though so be good to close the gap.

Generally what % should your fs be of your bs? Mine is literally around 65% of my max bs which is pretty sad.

[eyeoftheworld]

back squats begun to agrivate right side of my right knee yet front sqauts don't seem to bother it at all. Looks like going to take some time off bs and focus primarily on front sqauts.

For some reason my bs stance is more narrow then my front squat stance so feel it in my hips more then used too does anyone else have similar problem? My front squat is absolutely pathetic though so be good to close the gap.

Generally what % should your fs be of your bs? Mine is literally around 65% of my max bs which is pretty sad.

The stance usually has to do with the back squat relating to the pull whereas the front squat is the recovery position.

[boykid28]

back squats begun to agrivate right side of my right knee yet front sqauts don't seem to bother it at all. Looks like going to take some time off bs and focus primarily on front sqauts.

For some reason my bs stance is more narrow then my front squat stance so feel it in my hips more then used too does anyone else have similar problem? My front squat is absolutely pathetic though so be good to close the gap.

Generally what % should your fs be of your bs? Mine is literally around 65% of my max bs which is pretty sad.

in terms of oly lifting the back squat should be narrower. I think a good ratio should b fs 80% of bs. My bs is 365lbs(385on a good day). My fs is 315lbs. Dont know the ratio.

[ehlpitel]

Just started training but my front squat and back squat are pretty close- 85x3 for my BS and 80x2 for my FS.

We'll see how they differ as time goes on though.

[olyw8lifter]

Mine are actually pretty close too!! I have a 147 BS and 125 FS, but haven't tested for quite a while. I'll be experimenting with squatting everyday starting next week and going for a couple of months to see how it progresses. Looking forward to doing something everyday!! even if it is squatting

[slowman41]

smolov beat me :(

should have anticipated this tbh

-squat volume has been low the past few weeks due to injury/laziness
-skipped intro cycle
-piss-poor sleep last 2 nights
-only like 1200cals today

feelsbadman, especially walking around like I got raped the past 2 days lol.

will go back to my polish based program for now I suppose.

[3rd pull]

smolov beat me :(

should have anticipated this tbh

-squat volume has been low the past few weeks due to injury/laziness
-skipped intro cycle
-piss-poor sleep last 2 nights
-only like 1200cals today

feelsbadman, especially walking around like I got raped the past 2 days lol.

will go back to my polish based program for now I suppose.

dude stop changing your program lol! my opinion...restart the program with 90% max, do the intro cycle, and just man up and push through it. Eat more, and go to bed sooner.

[slowman41]

dude stop changing your program lol! my opinion...restart the program with 90% max, do the intro cycle, and just man up and push through it. Eat more, and go to bed sooner.

I definitely plan on running it, but starting it now with the intro will run into the holidays.

I'll probably try running it early next year I suppose. I was making decent gains on the program I've been running, so I'll just go back to that for now.

[crackyflipside]

Pat Mendes is a damn mastodon. Him next to Scott Mendelson.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs772.snc4/67216_1570855522917_1581368650_1316368_8110545_n.j pg

[boykid28]

Yesterday i was fooling around in the standing press and got 175lbs up....nice:) i was wondering how old do u have to b 2 b considered a junior lifter? I thought u had to b 20years old the year of the competition ur in. But while i was watching the 2010 77kg clean & jerk european championships, i noticed that inbtween tigarans 2nd and 3rd attempt, backstage, that he was "going for a junior world record, because he is still 21 years of age."idk. Any1 know?

[King922]

You were right with the year you turn 20 is your last year! Maybe he just wanted to beat it to say he could if he was younger? Hes 2 years too old not just one 2008 was his last year as a junior! Also I doubt hed go for a 3kg world record if he was serious its only 202 and he tried 205.

[slowman41]

risto just posted some shoes on their facebook page that are pretty sexy:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs942.snc4/73529_448886866535_179495851535_5928783_2586453_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs889.snc4/72258_448886761535_179495851535_5928775_4864193_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs156.snc4/37149_448886821535_179495851535_5928781_4463459_n. jpg

[Fluster]

Really?! They look like special corrective shoes for special people.

[ehlpitel]

Damn, so I just got back from the orthopedist at Rutgers who works with a lot of the athletes and he said I have tendinitis at the bottom of my quad.

Can't squat heavy or frequently for two weeks or really do much, can't pull from the ground apparently.

****.

[slowman41]

Really?! They look like special corrective shoes for special people.

Haha I suppose, but then again don't all WL shoes?

[slowman41]

did RDL's today at 100% of clean...

they were basically so easy that it didn't even seem to be doing anything. Should I go heavy on these, or keep it in relation to the clean?

[someonefat]

did RDL's today at 100% of clean...

they were basically so easy that it didn't even seem to be doing anything. Should I go heavy on these, or keep it in relation to the clean?

I go really heavy on rdl and good mornings

I feel both help with keeping good posture with the lifts when doing lighter weight. Really hits my back and hamstrings.

[boykid28]

hit 395lbs on the oly squat yesterday. took me forever to get it up. form was horrible. looked like a squat to goodmorning. o well. got it up.

[boykid28]

im amazed that i have a cold and sick as hell and im still able to finish my workout. o well. whatever. i wanna see if i can finish my workout today with the little to no sleep i had last night. i was waiting in line for COD black ops, outside, for like an hour.

[davidearle]

First competition of the year last weekend - Ontario Open

A pretty small comp but some good strong lifters including Valérie Lefebvre - a 69kg girl from Montreal who snatched 92kg and clean and jerked 118kg!

I'd been back to training for 4 weeks after taking almost 3 months off with injuries, but still lifted pretty well.

Snatch: 93, 98x, 100x
I opened up light to get some confidence going, as I hadn't competed since Canadian Nationals 6 months ago. The judges were being tough on me for pressing out my snatches, turning down my 100 was pretty crazy, see if you can spot it on the video

Clean and Jerk: 120, 125, 128x(jerk)
I wasn't feeling 'on' in the CJ this competition, but even lifting poorly I'm always good for 125 haha
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Next comp isn't until February, and my goal is to be at 110/140 by then.

[boykid28]

First competition of the year last weekend - Ontario Open

A pretty small comp but some good strong lifters including Valérie Lefebvre - a 69kg girl from Montreal who snatched 92kg and clean and jerked 118kg!

I'd been back to training for 4 weeks after taking almost 3 months off with injuries, but still lifted pretty well.

Snatch: 93, 98x, 100x
I opened up light to get some confidence going, as I hadn't competed since Canadian Nationals 6 months ago. The judges were being tough on me for pressing out my snatches, turning down my 100 was pretty crazy, see if you can spot it on the video

Clean and Jerk: 120, 125, 128x(jerk)
I wasn't feeling 'on' in the CJ this competition, but even lifting poorly I'm always good for 125 haha

Next comp isn't until February, and my goal is to be at 110/140 by then.

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cookie-monster-wtf-is-this.jpg

def dont see any press outs.
nice lifts though:):):)

[olyw8lifter]

Yeah, there may have been something on the 98, but I didn't see anything on the 100. Go figure, and good to see you back at it!!

[RobbieWalden]

Hello fellow athletes!

[eyeoftheworld]

Hello fellow athletes!

Weren't you at American Nationals at 69kg?

[RobbieWalden]

Weren't you at American Nationals at 69kg?

Sure was bro. How are you doing? I actually made that Nationals with only 6 weeks of training and competed at Nationals with only 10 weeks of training after almost 2 years off. It feels great to be competing again.

Now I'm just trying to get my lifts real big again.

Hope you're doing well and having a great week bro.

[Squinky]

Is the wider grip in the snatch harder for the upper back? I have always felt alot weaker in the snatch pull compared to clean pull, and I think it might be because of my weak upper back. Wondered about this long time ago.

[RobbieWalden]

Is the wider grip in the snatch harder for the upper back? I have always felt alot weaker in the snatch pull compared to clean pull, and I think it might be because of my weak upper back. Wondered about this long time ago.

No it's not. You have to practice them. If you go to wide, your shoulder may not be strong enough for bigger weights. So, you need to find a comfortable happy medium. The rule of the thumb when in the Snatch position and standing the bar should be 4-6 inches above your head.

As far as your back goes, it would most likely be a weak lower back. Escpecially on your spinal erectors. I'd do some good RDL's from a deficit and seated goodmornings.

[slowman41]

I know how everyone loves videos, I put a few up from my meet this morning in my log:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=576979151#post576979151

[olyw8lifter]

So, what did you finish with??

[slowman41]

went 80/85

missed both 3rd attempts at 83 and 91

need to work on my clean, a lot.

[Butterfull]

went 80/85

missed both 3rd attempts at 83 and 91

need to work on my clean, a lot.
Nice looking snatch man. I thought the missed one was real close.

I have a stupid question related to this. Why in training do I always see/experience dropped bars bouncing really high. But when i watch competition videos it never does?

Do you not use bumpers in competition, or are they a different kind or something?

I feel embarassed to ask

[someonefat]

good stuff man

watch the jumping forward though was noticeable on first snatch

You had that second snatch also was very close just barley lost balance

[someonefat]

Nice looking snatch man. I thought the missed one was real close.

I have a stupid question related to this. Why in training do I always see/experience dropped bars bouncing really high. But when i watch competition videos it never does?

Do you not use bumpers in competition, or are they a different kind or something?

I feel embarassed to ask

you might be throwing them down instead of dropping them causing them to bounce higher? Also lighter weight will bounce higher if you drop them quicker then heavy weight which wont be able to bring down as quick.

sometimes might just be wood platform without rubber also

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No rubber doesn't bounce as high

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rubber floor bounces higher

same weight roughly

[slowman41]

Nice looking snatch man. I thought the missed one was real close.

I have a stupid question related to this. Why in training do I always see/experience dropped bars bouncing really high. But when i watch competition videos it never does?

Do you not use bumpers in competition, or are they a different kind or something?

I feel embarassed to ask

the cheaper bumpers bounce a lot higher

also, maybe something to do with bars having collars on in competition vs usually not in training?

[ehlpitel]

It's b/c of the bumpers/weight/surface you're dropping it on.

[RobbieWalden]

It's a combination of a few things. . .

First, the lighter weights will always bounce higher. Also, cheaper plates will bounce higher as well as the black thick bumper plates. The Eliko Colored bumpers won't bounce very high even when light.

Second, it depends on the platform.

Lastly, the speed of the bar as well as how much you assist/control the bar on it's way down.

[Butterfull]

Oh, I see guys. The reasons my bars bounce higher is that I'm weaker, have worse bumpers, and a worse training platform


Thanks, I really have always been curious

[Squinky]

No it's not. You have to practice them. If you go to wide, your shoulder may not be strong enough for bigger weights. So, you need to find a comfortable happy medium. The rule of the thumb when in the Snatch position and standing the bar should be 4-6 inches above your head.

As far as your back goes, it would most likely be a weak lower back. Escpecially on your spinal erectors. I'd do some good RDL's from a deficit and seated goodmornings.

Yeah lower back might be weak too. To give you an idea, when I hang power (very high catch) cleaned 100 kg I could snatch 85 kg. I never had the best technique in the snatch but 90 kg just felt damn heavy when I tried it, and I couldn't move it much.

[olyw8lifter]

Got 150 kg for a +3 kg PR in the back squat.

This should go up even more as I can't snatch or full clean at all, and can't power clean heavy for a good while as my right wrist is banged up. I'm going to be doing the texas Method for a good 6-8 weeks with some light power cleans, some power jerks, and snatch pulls in there.

[boykid28]

Oh yeah. Just got out the gym. I finally got a 200kg total. Worked out this morning but had to wait 4 my friend give me a ride home, just now, so i decided to max out since i had nothing 2 do. Did a 88kg snatch & 114kgc&j. Was pissed though when i went into my bag and realized that i picked up my gameboy instead of my camcorder. Will update my signiture after i c the harry p movie. Wow, i just realized this post made me sound like a 12 year old kid ;p.

[boykid28]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING 2 every1 who reads this post. Dont b supprised when the next time u step on a scale u realise u just went up a weight class cause "grandmas stuffing with crandberries tasted banging".

[Butterfull]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING 2 every1 who reads this post. Dont b supprised when the next time u step on a scale u realise u just went up a weight class cause "grandmas stuffing with crandberries tasted banging".

I usually lose a few pounds for thanksgiving :(

I hate not being able to trust the food others are cooking for me, much rather just buy everything myself and cook it

[Butterfull]

I missed my first clean+Jerk today.

I have no idea what I was thinking.
Current PR was 60 kilo, just destroyed 80 kilos but had some poor rack position and it wasn't pretty

So I loaded 100 kilos (why? I dunno) and attempted it. I think the pull felt great, and I even rode the bar down pretty well, but I just couldn't get my elbows up and my hips were really far back in the bottom and it destroyed my wrist. I could barely pick up one side of the bar to unload it afterwards. Any strategies of wisdom? Other than don't attempt a 20 kilo PR right after making an easy but ugly 10kilo PR

[mab23]

sup Oly lifters :D

[boykid28]

sup Oly lifters :D

http://www.desicomments.com/dc/11/28605/286051.jpg

[19george]

Vids of Koklyaev's recent meet in Belarus for those who haven't seen them.

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OcFnmXe1Kms

Also, 190 and 195 snatch attempts. Apparently he tore a callous while attempting 240kg C&J.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYldN3jW6hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahfQxPXu7o

[boykid28]

^^^^ he's a monster man.

[boykid28]

r they ever gonna come out with another weightlifting magazine????

[slowman41]

r they ever gonna come out with another weightlifting magazine????

like Strength+ ?

or Denis Reno's newsletter?

or Performance Menu

or Milo

...

[boykid28]

like Strength+ ?

or Denis Reno's newsletter?

or Performance Menu

or Milo

...

i knew of the strength+. did they come out with nother issue??? i thought milo was a euro only mag. i remember seeing it on newspaper stands in the gyms as a kid when i lived in italy. i thought that if u wanted to get milo in the states that u had to order it. those other 2 i havent heard of.

[slowman41]

i knew of the strength+. did they come out with nother issue??? i thought milo was a euro only mag. i remember seeing it on newspaper stands in the gyms as a kid when i lived in italy. i thought that if u wanted to get milo in the states that u had to order it. those other 2 i havent heard of.

strength plus comes out once per month

performance menu is greg everett's magazine over at cathletics.com

milo is available from ironmind.com although I guess this is more of a book than a newsletter

denis reno writes a bare bones newsletter, I forget how many issues/yr he puts out. you can email him for it I imagine. He's very knowledgeable, and also responsible for fixing my snatch technique.

[boykid28]

these finals r killing me this semester. uggggghhhhhh:
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/tumblr_l523w8H4z61qz7lxdo1_400.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=5292)

[slowman41]

my clean is killing me

thought I had it fixed tuesday.
lifted yesterday, fine through 70kg, 80kg some arm pull, crushed 84, and then totally sucked with 85, and 70.

looks like a fukload of lifts from the hang for today, and probably some "power shrugs" as I was hitting big cleans when I included shrugging before.

[olyw8lifter]

Well, I have finished law school!!! Tomorrow I will walk in my graduation ceremony!! A couple of weeks off, then start preparing for the bar exam in Arizona!!! :D

[MJAffliction]

Well, I have finished law school!!! Tomorrow I will walk in my graduation ceremony!! A couple of weeks off, then start preparing for the bar exam in Arizona!!! :D

Congratulations! Something to be proud of, for sure. What are you aspiring to become?

Any advice on it? I plan on going the law school route, too. I have one more year left at a community college before I head to a state school.

[olyw8lifter]

Congratulations! Something to be proud of, for sure. What are you aspiring to become?

Any advice on it? I plan on going the law school route, too. I have one more year left at a community college before I head to a state school.

I want to get into IP (Intellectual Property) law, but am really open to almost any area. Main advice I have is to make sure that is what you want to do. You don't have to decide on an area of law to practice in, but I wouldn't go to law school without knowing you really want to go. It is pretty hard and really time consuming. Otherwise, if you go, good luck, it will be rewarding!!

[slowman41]

congrats man.

since you're in law I have to ask if you ever read philalawyer.net
if not, its hilarious stuff

[NorwichGrad]

I want to get into IP (Intellectual Property) law, but am really open to almost any area. Main advice I have is to make sure that is what you want to do. You don't have to decide on an area of law to practice in, but I wouldn't go to law school without knowing you really want to go. It is pretty hard and really time consuming. Otherwise, if you go, good luck, it will be rewarding!!

Congrats!!

[boykid28]

Well, I have finished law school!!! Tomorrow I will walk in my graduation ceremony!! A couple of weeks off, then start preparing for the bar exam in Arizona!!! :D

congrats.

[olyw8lifter]

Thanks everybody, it feels pretty good. :D

[Butterfull]

Thanks everybody, it feels pretty good. :D

Anyone who can do o-lifting plus a real job deserves major props!

I have made a lifting log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129908473

[GoJu]

Koklyeav fires a rocket launcher!

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[eyeoftheworld]

Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope you all get new Adidas lifting shoes, a double body-weight snatch and lots of tiger balm!

[boykid28]

Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope you all get new Adidas lifting shoes, a double body-weight snatch and lots of tiger balm!

merry christmas 2 all also. Would love to get that 2x body snatch but santa said i wear my romaleos 2 often to deserve 1 :D.

[olyw8lifter]

Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year!!! Hope everyone sets and accomplishes their goals in the coming year!!

[boykid28]

Ok. So i just got home from vacation and i now weigh 170lbs. Thats 12lbs in 7 days. Fail :(.

[slowman41]

Ok. So i just got home from vacation and i now weigh 170lbs. Thats 12lbs in 7 days. Fail :(.

thats a win dude. At 5'8", you'd be best moving up to 77, or even 85. (Kendrick is like 5' 7" or something, as a reference).

[slowman41]

94kg Ecuador lifter prepping for the 2007 pan am's.

IMO his snatch is awesome, but his clean falls into the "early arm pull, drop under too fast and bar crashes down" category. Still pretty awesome though.

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[eyeoftheworld]

Slow,

I liked that video, thanks for posting. I'd agree that he's arm-pulling and crashing hard, but on both snatches and cleans. His back is also rounding a fair bit. His form is actually kind of sloppy compared to the Kakashvilli's of the world but the one thing I have to say is that he is clearly diesel. His jerk is also really solid too.

[boykid28]

Slow,

I liked that video, thanks for posting. I'd agree that he's arm-pulling and crashing hard, but on both snatches and cleans. His back is also rounding a fair bit. His form is actually kind of sloppy compared to the Kakashvilli's of the world but the one thing I have to say is that he is clearly diesel. His jerk is also really solid too.

whats wrong with the kakashvilli's and asanidze's of the world:D????jk, jk

anyhow:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__8RKQKezcsk/TRjDnELyREI/AAAAAAAAB3w/bCdM2lV0ugc/s1600/happy-new-year-2011-2.jpg
my ol fam

[slowman41]

Slow,

I liked that video, thanks for posting. I'd agree that he's arm-pulling and crashing hard, but on both snatches and cleans. His back is also rounding a fair bit. His form is actually kind of sloppy compared to the Kakashvilli's of the world but the one thing I have to say is that he is clearly diesel. His jerk is also really solid too.

your prob right about the snatches too, I was just amazed at how fast he worked through sets with a lot of weight on the bar. A goal in 2011 for me is to work up to max/work sets faster, so as to get more quality work done.

[olyw8lifter]

whats wrong with the kakashvilli's and asanidze's of the world:D????jk, jk

anyhow:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__8RKQKezcsk/TRjDnELyREI/AAAAAAAAB3w/bCdM2lV0ugc/s1600/happy-new-year-2011-2.jpg
my ol fam

Right back at you!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF MY OLYMPIC FAMILY HERE ON BB.COM!!!!

I hope you set and break all your new year's goals!!

[eyeoftheworld]

whats wrong with the kakashvilli's and asanidze's of the world:D????jk, jk

anyhow:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__8RKQKezcsk/TRjDnELyREI/AAAAAAAAB3w/bCdM2lV0ugc/s1600/happy-new-year-2011-2.jpg
my ol fam

Nothin wrong with Kaki, I am saying his form is beautiful in comparison.

Happy New Year.

[someonefat]

94kg Ecuador lifter prepping for the 2007 pan am's.

IMO his snatch is awesome, but his clean falls into the "early arm pull, drop under too fast and bar crashes down" category. Still pretty awesome though.

uNmzj18YwEE

wow crazy fast under the bar

he seems can pull a little longer in snatch also but he so quick and gets under so fast doesn't seem to matter

but then again that weight looked really damn light for him anyways

[boykid28]

so........ does any1 know of any gyms in jersey city?

[slowman41]

so........ does any1 know of any gyms in jersey city?

nearby...

http://fdudevils.com/sports/2009/7/20/SC_0720094051.aspx?path=strength

[boykid28]

nearby...


na.thanks though. Its 2 far away. Im really just looking for a gym with bumper plates. D@mn, wheres madoski when u need him :D.

[slowman41]

na.thanks though. Its 2 far away. Im really just looking for a gym with bumper plates. D@mn, wheres madoski when u need him :D.

how bout www.crossfithoboken.com

[boykid28]

how bout www.crossfithoboken.com

ill check them out thnks.

-edit: must spread some reputation around before giving it to slowman41 again

[someonefat]

So I haven't done a front squat in over 4 months and focusing heavily on the bs and now I think I have caused some muscle imbalance my quads seem a lot smaller yet my ass/hamstrings are huge and I'm starting to get some pain in my knee also.

Anyone know of a good squat program that isn't smolov that can jump start my front squat a bit? I think I am going to focus on just front squats for a bit

My front squat is pathetic right now tried doing a front squat the other day and 200lbs under my back squat that I rep felt really heavy.

Also missing lifts more forward then used to and think front squats will help with being more upright during the lifts.

[slowman41]

So I haven't done a front squat in over 4 months and focusing heavily on the bs and now I think I have caused some muscle imbalance my quads seem a lot smaller yet my ass/hamstrings are huge and I'm starting to get some pain in my knee also.

Anyone know of a good squat program that isn't smolov that can jump start my front squat a bit? I think I am going to focus on just front squats for a bit

My front squat is pathetic right now tried doing a front squat the other day and 200lbs under my back squat that I rep felt really heavy.

Also missing lifts more forward then used to and think front squats will help with being more upright during the lifts.

back squats work your quads and hamstrings/glutes equally, so to think you have a muscle imbalance is silly. If anything, front squats would cause more of an imbalance as they are quad/glute heavy, lacking hamstring action.

tbh, when my backsquat has gone up my front squat has followed, and I kind of thought this was always the case. Maybe your upperback/core is weak or underutilized?

regardless, solution would be to do more front squats. I like triples, more reps can exhaust the smaller muscles in your upper back, possibly leading to injury.

[gbg]

Well hello there OL'rs, dropping in to say hi :)

[boykid28]

Well hello there OL'rs, dropping in to say hi :)

well well well, hello there gbg. where have u been? we've missed u.

[gbg]

Meh, life got in the way. Haven't lifted in months and presently just trying to get things back on track.

Good to see this thread is still alive, it's interesting to see the different posters from when it started.

Don't let it die :)

[someonefat]

back squats work your quads and hamstrings/glutes equally, so to think you have a muscle imbalance is silly. If anything, front squats would cause more of an imbalance as they are quad/glute heavy, lacking hamstring action.

tbh, when my backsquat has gone up my front squat has followed, and I kind of thought this was always the case. Maybe your upperback/core is weak or underutilized?

regardless, solution would be to do more front squats. I like triples, more reps can exhaust the smaller muscles in your upper back, possibly leading to injury.

I think it might be the way I squat though also

I don't have the bar really high on my traps like some oly lifters and tend to have more forward lean but it works for me and I feel it in my glutes and hamstrings more.

yeah thats what I thought also thats why i worked the bs heavily for last few months figuring my front squat would go up also which was not the case at all. My front sqaut sucks now. I utilize the stretch reflex more when i bs though then front squat which might help.

I do a lot of heavy pulls already that will work my hamstrings plenty so doubt working on the front squat a lot will effect that issue plus I feel that they are way stronger anyways from all the bs done which I feel targeted my hams/glutes more anyways.

Also read articles recently on how front squat translates better to the lifts then the bs and that Chinese/korean lifters focus more on front squats.

[PROTOSSterone]

New OL'er checking in.

power clean: 85kg
Power snatch: 65kg
Back squat: 150kg

Bw: 81kg.

Hoping to hit bodyweight snatch in 2011 :)

[boykid28]

New OL'er checking in.

power clean: 85kg
Power snatch: 65kg
Back squat: 150kg

Bw: 81kg.

Hoping to hit bodyweight snatch in 2011 :)

dont worry. ull get it.






-fail. fail. fail. i went to the crossfit in hoboken. fail. i can only go in when there is "open gym", which is only 30 min, and its at night, otherwise i have to participate in crossfit. fail. or work with 1 of their coaches. was considering working with 1 of their coaches, cause im desperate to start working out again (yeah its been a month already), but then i remembered i dont listen/follow any1's program. fail. got to start looking for another gym:(. may have to call up mezzie

[eyeoftheworld]

Well, this week I am going to go to the Athletic Therapy clinic at my local school and have my knees look at.

Although not as bad, my left knee is bugging me again after two weeks of full snatches and cleans. I would suspect there is some kind of damage because it doesn't feel like normal soreness.

Provided it's just a matter of taking it easy/rehabbing the knee, I might switch over to the old-school, funky split snatches and cleans. For whatever reason, split snatches have always felt quite comfortable to do, though I have only done them with lighter weights for something different.

[boykid28]

Hate shoveling:(.

[bustoHAWAII]

what's up? new here.. hoping to pick up some form checks in the near future. been reading here for a minute though.

PRs

clean: 231lbs
pc: 215x3
squat: 315lbs
front squat: 265lbs

Bw: 174lbs

[Superman187]

Anyone here training at a facility near Cypress area of Houston, Texas? Probably moving there in a few months and need to find a coach and facility.
PM me.
Thanks!

[olyw8lifter]

Anyone here training at a facility near Cypress area of Houston, Texas? Probably moving there in a few months and need to find a coach and facility.
PM me.
Thanks!

There are actually a couple of good coaches in the Houston area. I don't know where Cypress City it, but Tim Swords is located in League City. Look up on USAW website. You can also post on GoHeavy on the Olympic forum, Tim posts there somewhat often and will know the other coaches in the area. Good luck!!

[pfffft]

tampa bay crew represent

[boykid28]

Finally got a semi work in today, 1st of the year:). Yay. @ mezzie's gym too. Couldnt get a full workout cause i had to find my maxes. So after 1 month off i was able to muster out 85kg snatch, 100kg c&j, 120kg front squat, and back squat 160kg with less than 3 hours sleep. Says i got to work on/adjust my technique. Looks like i may have to get serious now, or atleast soon. May even have to get serious enough to start my own lifting journal, since i dont write 1.

[J.L.C.]

You got to visit Mezzie's garage?!

[boykid28]

You got to visit Mezzie's garage?!

yeah, but i forgot to hit his infamous punching bag. He was nice enough to invite me cause i had nowhere to train. He told me bout u too. Ohhh.... Tmi :)?

[USAWBrad]

tampa bay crew represent

Tampa here. Where you training?

[pfffft]

The next level training center , tampa florida

http://www.tnltampa.com/oly-lifting.shtml

how about you

[USAWBrad]

Phase 5ive in Brandon... Team FL-Tampa Bay. You guys must be one of the new teams in the area I've heard about?

[James_Byrne]

hey any of u florida guys part of the florida elite or whatever the state team is called?

[gbg]

Haven't lifted in over 2 months...life sucks....bye.

[USAWBrad]

hey any of u florida guys part of the florida elite or whatever the state team is called?

Not here. I may have gotten it this year but I bombed out in the last qualifying meet. I know your refering to that Florida Elite vs AUS... I didnt goto that meet this past year although I heard it went very well.

[boykid28]

Haven't lifted in over 2 months...life sucks....bye.

just find some free time. Although, thats the hardest part. I just came back from a month off from hibernation.

[pfffft]

oh nice dude. yeah Eric is good people over there.

what days do you lift ? i would like to come by in the evening or something, as i have classes M-F during the day.

I'd love to train over there but it's even farther than my normal gym. I will make it out there when my wrist heals up though.

[James_Byrne]

Not here. I may have gotten it this year but I bombed out in the last qualifying meet. I know your refering to that Florida Elite vs AUS... I didnt goto that meet this past year although I heard it went very well.

yeh it was pretty fun i lifted poorly though unfortunately. but at least i didn't bomb in my first international comp!

you guys had some good lifters. pity that thom braddy guy bombed, though he was way too ambitious starting on 180kg for c&j!! nice bloke though. saw him on youtube he looks like a crack up

[USAWBrad]

oh nice dude. yeah Eric is good people over there.

what days do you lift ? i would like to come by in the evening or something, as i have classes M-F during the day.

I'd love to train over there but it's even farther than my normal gym. I will make it out there when my wrist heals up though.


I'm there at random times on any given week. It's hard to catch me at a paticular time because I live about an hour north of him so I get in when I can.



yeh it was pretty fun i lifted poorly though unfortunately. but at least i didn't bomb in my first international comp!

you guys had some good lifters. pity that thom braddy guy bombed, though he was way too ambitious starting on 180kg for c&j!! nice bloke though. saw him on youtube he looks like a crack up


Must be an ego thing for the Floridians lol

... same thing happened to me trying to come in too high.

[boykid28]

so i just started a journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130985093

hopefully i keep up with it.

[c00lrabbit]

havent been here in a while but found an article i thought could be useful to some of you guys

wheres your focus?
http://www.olyathlete.com/article/where-your-focus

back tight, big pull is all my coach says before my lifts

[Torrtrefireto]

Its official, he has too much fun at the gym to be that damn strong



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aware its an epic repost

[boykid28]

^^ lol yeah. thats one strong mo fo right there.

[slowman41]

Hey guys,

Not sure if you already read this, but if not I find it pretty good stuff:

Ben Claridad's blog

http://alongthelinesof.com/

[Faparama]

Phase 5ive in Brandon... Team FL-Tampa Bay. You guys must be one of the new teams in the area I've heard about?

Yea, pretty new. We've only been a club since Nov. 2010 but things are starting to move along quite nicely :)

[gbg]

Started Ol'ing after a 3 month layoff.


Pathetic!

[olyw8lifter]

Started Ol'ing after a 3 month layoff.


Pathetic!

Why 3 months?? And yes, it will suck for about a month before things start feeling right again!! I took a week off after a meet and felt crappy for about a week and a half after getting back.

[gbg]

Why 3 months?? And yes, it will suck for about a month before things start feeling right again!! I took a week off after a meet and felt crappy for about a week and a half after getting back.

Had some stuff to deal with. Can't believe how much speed and strength I lost, new it wouldn't be good but had no idea it would be this bad. My cleans were all over the place and didn't even do a full snatch yet.

[olyw8lifter]

Had some stuff to deal with. Can't believe how much speed and strength I lost, new it wouldn't be good but had no idea it would be this bad. My cleans were all over the place and didn't even do a full snatch yet.

Sorry to hear, but it happens. I know what you mean about the lifts being all over the place!! Snatches will suck even worse, that's what always sucks the most when I take time off!

Good luck on your comeback!!

[gbg]

Sorry to hear, but it happens. I know what you mean about the lifts being all over the place!! Snatches will suck even worse, that's what always sucks the most when I take time off!

Good luck on your comeback!!

Thanks :) it's really pissing me off, still not up to the full movements yet, doing PC's today and my legs and shoulders are sore as **** this should be fun.

I've come back from a layoff when I was bodybuilding and that was a piece of cake in comparison!

[Fury22]

Thanks :) it's really pissing me off, still not up to the full movements yet, doing PC's today and my legs and shoulders are sore as **** this should be fun.

I've come back from a layoff when I was bodybuilding and that was a piece of cake in comparison!

I know the feeling. This is the first week I've been able to really train again since I got to Fort Benning. I won't have too much longer though since I have another course coming up. These last months my strength has been on a roller coaster ride depending on how much sleep, time in the gym, and field training we were doing. Very frustrating.

[olyw8lifter]

I know the feeling. This is the first week I've been able to really train again since I got to Fort Benning. I won't have too much longer though since I have another course coming up. These last months my strength has been on a roller coaster ride depending on how much sleep, time in the gym, and field training we were doing. Very frustrating.

Well, I have had to cut my training to 3x's per week, and may have to cut to 2x's per week for the next couple of weeks as I lead up to the Bar exam. I really don't like taking more than one day off at a time, but haven't had a choice, as I have been too busy studying!!

[pfffft]

trashed my right shoulder friday night, i can't move it, it's slumped and sagging but not completely dislocated

relegated to a sling

no insurance ftw. going to our gym's chiropractor on monday to see what he can do

i need to ****ing graduate so i can get a job and afford insurance, this is ridiculous

im probably out for 2-3 months

[someonefat]

^ wow rough how did you injure it?

Hopefully you can still work your legs someway either through hack squats, leg press, or even squats if possible to support the bar.

[pfffft]

my stupid gym had a crossfit workout that had tire tosses ( like regular car tires ) so i thought i could warm up doing it, but there was no technique at all to it, it slipped out of my one hand, and all the weight went on my right shoulder

like 8 people got injured at the gym that week doing crossfit. i hate crossfit. sometimes i will just do those exercises at a relaxed pace to warm up. i couldn't even do that.

it's 2 days later and it doesn't feel any better. great. fml

yeah i can't support any weight on my shoulder so i might just have to do leg presses and cycle for the time being. running hurts the shoulder, hell, even walking does, but i can go on the stationary cycle with my arm in a sling and do that, and go into the leg press machine with the arm in a sling and do that as well.

so much for competing in march, new goal: be able to compete again

[gbg]

Crossfit=injury.

[crackyflipside]

Working on a shirt design:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/crackyflipside/Clean-and-Jerk.jpg

[gbg]

Don't like the way it portrays women.

[boykid28]

just do what the anime companies do: put a chick with an unproportionally large chest to everything else size. it works all the time. still dont understand how they rationalize that?!?! but, hey, it works.

[pfffft]

duh, boobs are awesome

[Torrtrefireto]

She's got terrible technique!

Plus gloves

Plus her attire is completely nonsupporting

[boykid28]

^^ this. how r u gonna use that pic when she's not even using the hook grip!?!?!:D

[crackyflipside]

Okay, I'll go back to my more tasteful contributions...

TzgJFJhKcVM

[olyw8lifter]

Cracky, thanks for posting!!!

[boykid28]

Okay, I'll go back to my more tasteful contributions...

^^ this :).


TzgJFJhKcVM

woah. big jump in weight class. the first guy was a 62. yet, correct me if im wrong, lu xiaojun was in the end and the guy right after him was/is a junior 69 lifter. reguardless all the chinese lifters in the blue uni's were ripped.

[crackyflipside]

woah. big jump in weight class. the first guy was a 62. yet, correct me if im wrong, lu xiaojun was in the end and the guy right after him was/is a junior 69 lifter. reguardless all the chinese lifters in the blue uni's were ripped.

That Lin Qingfeng guy is going to become Olympic champion 2012.

[boykid28]

That Lin Qingfeng guy is going to become Olympic champion 2012.

i have a different view point. if marzoyan (ARM) is healthy and makes it to 2012 i think hell get it. if he's not healthy then, imo, its a toss up btween lin qingfeng and liao hu; and bronze will go btween either miculescu or martin (both ROU) depending on who's heathly or who they send. either way these r my top pics as it stands now.

[crackyflipside]

i have a different view point. if marzoyan (ARM) is healthy and makes it to 2012 i think hell get it. if he's not healthy then, imo, its a toss up btween lin qingfeng and liao hu; and bronze will go btween either miculescu or martin (both ROU) depending on who's heathly or who they send. either way these r my top pics as it stands now.

Damn, I forgot about Miculescu, that guy is so damn intense.

[boykid28]

did 130kg front squats for triple. 1st time ive felt sore in a while.

[gbg]

Getting bumper plates today!

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg63/ggibbs2008/babydance.gif

Not a whole set but who cares, better then using reg.

[olyw8lifter]

Getting bumper plates today!

Not a whole set but who cares, better then using reg.

Good news!!!! :D

What are you getting?? Inquiring minds want to know!!

[gbg]

Good news!!!! :D

What are you getting?? Inquiring minds want to know!!

Pendlay, didn't get a whole set just ten pounders.

[slowman41]

walked into gym today to find a pleasant surprise.

Boom Pendlay bumpers everywhere! (one of 3 trees full of them)

the new 10lb plates are as solid as Glenn said they were too.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3128783&stc=1&d=1298740780

[J.L.C.]

Sounds like instant PR's!

[gbg]

walked into gym today to find a pleasant surprise.

Boom Pendlay bumpers everywhere! (one of 3 trees full of them)

the new 10lb plates are as solid as Glenn said they were too.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3128783&stc=1&d=1298740780

You suck! i had to buy some. Pisses me off that so many gyms aren't equipped for OL'ing.

[Squinky]

walked into gym today to find a pleasant surprise.

Boom Pendlay bumpers everywhere! (one of 3 trees full of them)

the new 10lb plates are as solid as Glenn said they were too.



Are they calibrated or scrap metal?

[slowman41]

Are they calibrated or scrap metal?

?

they're rubber.

[olyw8lifter]

That's awesome slowman!!! I agree about that equalling PR's!! Now, get to it!! :D

[Squinky]

?

they're rubber.

Did they

a) Show some effort in manufacturing aka calibration or

b) Did they just put some **** together with I don't care mentality.

[boykid28]

Sounds like instant PR's!


That's awesome slowman!!! I agree about that equalling PR's!! Now, get to it!! :D

new plates = new pr's???? hmmm, it must be

http://imgs.xkcd.com/store/imgs/science_square_0.png

[slowman41]

That's awesome slowman!!! I agree about that equalling PR's!! Now, get to it!! :D

apparently true

snatch 88kg +3kg PR today (video in training log)

went for 90 and was very close. Need to clean up form and it too will fall.

[boykid28]

^^ sweet. keep it up.

[slowman41]

^^ sweet. keep it up.

coming at your PR's, boykid :D

[boykid28]

haha you are indeed. now that i have some1 showing me how to lift hopefully i can remain in your stratosphere ,lol.

[slowman41]

haha, I'm still 12kg off your c&j and bout 30kg off your squat, so we'll see.

[thejdeck]

Well I have yet to post on here so I might as well introduce myself. I've been oly lifting on and off for a year but right now I am in my 5th week of being coached and focusing mainly on oly lifting. My current totals are 100kg snatch and 123kg clean and jerk. They have been going up every heavy week of training, so hopefully I will have some good numbers to put up by the time collegiate nationals roles around.