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sean102385
09-10-2009, 08:55 AM
normal yahoo H2H league

qb-cutler
wr-fitzgerald
wr-andre johnson
wr-marshall
rb-pierre thomas
rb-felix jones
te-dallas clark
k-gostkowski
def-NYG

bench
rb-thomas jones
wr-desean jackson
rb-larry johnson
qb-cassel
wr-derrick maso
te-fasano

wk1 i face

qb-rodgers
wr-randy moss
wr-steve smith (car)
wr-santonio holmes
rb-adrian peterson
rb-marion barber
te-owen daniels
k-david akers
def-GB

any changes i should make to my starters? and how do i look for week 1 against my opponent?

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 08:56 AM
normal yahoo H2H league

qb-cutler
wr-fitzgerald
wr-andre johnson
wr-marshall
rb-pierre thomas
rb-felix jones
te-dallas clark
k-gostkowski
def-NYG

bench
rb-thomas jones
wr-desean jackson
rb-larry johnson
qb-cassel
wr-derrick maso
te-fasano

wk1 i face

qb-rodgers
wr-randy moss
wr-steve smith (car)
wr-santonio holmes
rb-adrian peterson
rb-marion barber
te-owen daniels
k-david akers
def-GB

any changes i should make to my starters? and how do i look for week 1 against my opponent?

I would switch thomas jones or larry johnson for felix jones 100%.. keep an eye out on the marshall situation, you might be better off playing desean jackson...

either way, no hate but i think you will lose week 1, your opponent has a sick team.

Messiahtype
09-10-2009, 08:57 AM
Pierre Thomas might not play Sunday, and if he does he might be limited. So go with TJ(Edited because I missed Jones' name on there).

Go Jones/Jones this week.

Guy above me, starting Larry Johnson against baltimore over felix jones against TB is lunacy.

Other than that, you look solid.

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 08:59 AM
Thomas will most likely be out this week. Start Jones and Johnson as your RB's.

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 09:03 AM
Pierre Thomas might not play Sunday, and if he does he might be limited. So go with TJ(Edited because I missed Jones' name on there).

Go Jones/Jones this week.

Guy above me, starting Larry Johnson against baltimore over felix jones against TB is lunacy.

Other than that, you look solid.

your kidding right? id start rb1 larry johnson(whos looked amazing preseson) vs. baltimore anyday before playing an rb2 felix jones vs. tampa.

Messiahtype
09-10-2009, 09:13 AM
your kidding right? id start rb1 larry johnson(whos looked amazing preseson) vs. baltimore anyday before playing an rb2 felix jones vs. tampa.
Some facts:

Baltimore gave up 4 rushing TD the entire season last year.
Larry Johnson's last 7 games combined, he totalled 2 TD
Larry Johnson's last 7 games produced ONE 100 yard performance, and that was only due to him breaking a 33 yarder.
Kansas City has virtually no chance of mustering any offense against Baltimore.

Tampa's run defense sucks. Actually their whole defense sucks.
Felix Jones will be splitting carries 50/50 with Marion Barber.
Felix Jones has home run capability.
Felix Jones can catch the ball.


What you are saying is akin to last year saying "Don't start Chris Johnson because he splits carries with Lendale White, start Jamal Lewis against Baltimore because he is an RB1"

Except Jamal is better than Larry Johnson, obviously.

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 09:17 AM
Some facts:

Baltimore gave up 4 rushing TD the entire season last year.
Larry Johnson's last 7 games combined, he totalled 2 TD
Larry Johnson's last 7 games produced ONE 100 yard performance, and that was only due to him breaking a 33 yarder.
Kansas City has virtually no chance of mustering any offense against Baltimore.

Tampa's run defense sucks. Actually their whole defense sucks.
Felix Jones will be splitting carries 50/50 with Marion Barber.
Felix Jones has home run capability.
Felix Jones can catch the ball.


What you are saying is akin to last year saying "Don't start Chris Johnson because he splits carries with Lendale White, start Jamal Lewis against Baltimore because he is an RB1"

Except Jamal is better than Larry Johnson, obviously.

Blatimore lost some key players out of that defense last year and they are also aging. oh and they lost rex ryan. BIG loss..

Larry johnson had a bad year, he looks fresh this year, 150 yards on 25 carries preseason.. felix jones will not be getting 50% of the carries, its a 3 RBBC.. dont forget about tashard choice..

and jamal lewis is better than larry johnson? oh man

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 09:20 AM
Some facts:

Baltimore gave up 4 rushing TD the entire season last year.
Larry Johnson's last 7 games combined, he totalled 2 TD
Larry Johnson's last 7 games produced ONE 100 yard performance, and that was only due to him breaking a 33 yarder.
Kansas City has virtually no chance of mustering any offense against Baltimore.

Tampa's run defense sucks. Actually their whole defense sucks.
Felix Jones will be splitting carries 50/50 with Marion Barber.
Felix Jones has home run capability.
Felix Jones can catch the ball.


What you are saying is akin to last year saying "Don't start Chris Johnson because he splits carries with Lendale White, start Jamal Lewis against Baltimore because he is an RB1"

Except Jamal is better than Larry Johnson, obviously.

Johnson also didn't run the ball that much late in the season last year. He only carried the ball over 20 times once in those last 7 games. He did average 4.5 yards per carry which isn't horrible. They will be giving him the ball and pounding it out. I expect a TD from him.

Also you are wrong to assume F.Jones will get 50 percent of the carries. I highly doubt he will get that much. I would rather have someone who will touch the ball a lot more and be given more opportunities then someone who will touch the ball a lot less but have a chance to have a big run.

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 09:20 AM
and jamal lewis is better than larry johnson? oh man

Jamal Lewis can barely run. There have been jokes all camp how Lewis is the slowest man in the league. He won't be starting for long.

Johnson is 100x better then Lewis at this point.

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 09:22 AM
Johnson also didn't run the ball that much late in the season last year. He only carried the ball over 20 times once in those last 7 games. He did average 4.5 yards per carry which isn't horrible. They will be giving him the ball and pounding it out. I expect a TD from him.

Also you are wrong to assume F.Jones will get 50 percent of the carries. I highly doubt he will get that much. I would rather have someone who will touch the ball a lot more and be given more opportunities then someone who will touch the ball a lot less but have a chance to have a big run.

this. plus they are saying they want johnson to get 250+ touches this year, thats huge, lj is the kinda guy that needs to get in a rythm, he can be punishing when he gets space.


Jamal Lewis can barely run. There have been jokes all camp how Lewis is the slowest man in the league. He won't be starting for long.

Johnson is 100x better then Lewis at this point.

that

Messiahtype
09-10-2009, 09:25 AM
Blatimore lost some key players out of that defense last year and they are also aging. oh and they lost rex ryan. BIG loss..

Larry johnson had a bad year, he looks fresh this year, 150 yards on 25 carries preseason.. felix jones will not be getting 50% of the carries, its a 3 RBBC.. dont forget about tashard choice..

and jamal lewis is better than larry johnson? oh man
Ravens defense has been aging for years. Corner is their problem though, their front 7 is still stout as ****.

I will rep you Monday if Larrry Johnson puts up better numbers than Felix Jones.

And Larry Johnson hasn't done anything since 2006. Jamal was a 1000 yard rusher the last 2 years. They both suck. But I'll take a guy who has been productive lately for a ****ty team over a guy who has been unproductive lately for a ****ty team.

Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones both have said Barber/Jones will split carries. Choice is just there. He'd be lucky to get 4 touches.

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 09:28 AM
Ravens defense has been aging for years. Corner is their problem though, their front 7 is still stout as ****.

I will rep you Monday if Larrry Johnson puts up better numbers than Felix Jones.

And Larry Johnson hasn't done anything since 2006. Jamal was a 1000 yard rusher the last 2 years. They both suck. But I'll take a guy who has been productive lately for a ****ty team over a guy who has been unproductive lately for a ****ty team.

Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones both have said Barber/Jones will split carries. Choice is just there. He'd be lucky to get 4 touches.

lmao remind me not to take fantasy advice from you

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 09:33 AM
Ravens defense has been aging for years. Corner is their problem though, their front 7 is still stout as ****.

I will rep you Monday if Larrry Johnson puts up better numbers than Felix Jones.

And Larry Johnson hasn't done anything since 2006. Jamal was a 1000 yard rusher the last 2 years. They both suck. But I'll take a guy who has been productive lately for a ****ty team over a guy who has been unproductive lately for a ****ty team.

Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones both have said Barber/Jones will split carries. Choice is just there. He'd be lucky to get 4 touches.

Since Jamal Lewis had 1000 yards last season he will get 1,000 this season? If he get's 1,000 this season does that mean he will get 1,000 next season? RB's decline faster then any other type of players in the league. Lewis has taken a beating in his career and it has caught up with him. You can tell he isn't the same player this pre-season.

Larry Johnson was out last year with a foot injury. So to compare the final yards at the end is not a good way to analyze who is better. Johnson who was playing behind a ****tier line average more YPC then Jamal did. Jamal's YPC was 3.6 and Larry Johnsons was 4.5. That is a huge difference. Johnson > Lewis and it's not even close.

Messiahtype
09-10-2009, 10:12 AM
That would work, except Larry Johnson didn't play Pittsburgh 2x, Baltimore 2x, and Tennessee. That's 5 games against top 6 run defenses. And another against Washington(ranked 8th).

Meanwhile, Johnson's 4.5 came from basically 2 games against very suspect run defenses(Denver and Atlanta), and the only top 10 run defense he carried the ball against the entire year was Miami. Hmmm. Little bit different than the walls Jamal had to run into.

I watched all of these games. They both have issues hitting the hole, neither are explosive anymore, and truthfully neither should be starting(Charles and Davis should). I don't like either of them. But to act like Larry Johnson is soooo much better than Jamal is just funny.

frankky4fingers
09-10-2009, 10:29 AM
That would work, except Larry Johnson didn't play Pittsburgh 2x, Baltimore 2x, and Tennessee. That's 5 games against top 6 run defenses. And another against Washington(ranked 8th).

Meanwhile, Johnson's 4.5 came from basically 2 games against very suspect run defenses(Denver and Atlanta), and the only top 10 run defense he carried the ball against the entire year was Miami. Hmmm. Little bit different than the walls Jamal had to run into.

I watched all of these games. They both have issues hitting the hole, neither are explosive anymore, and truthfully neither should be starting(Charles and Davis should). I don't like either of them. But to act like Larry Johnson is soooo much better than Jamal is just funny.

he is sooooooooooo much better. thats the funny part. dude jamal lewis is terribly slow, lj can still break huge runs, he was hurt last year, how can you even compare them?

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 10:30 AM
That would work, except Larry Johnson didn't play Pittsburgh 2x, Baltimore 2x, and Tennessee. That's 5 games against top 6 run defenses. And another against Washington(ranked 8th).

Meanwhile, Johnson's 4.5 came from basically 2 games against very suspect run defenses(Denver and Atlanta), and the only top 10 run defense he carried the ball against the entire year was Miami. Hmmm. Little bit different than the walls Jamal had to run into.

I watched all of these games. They both have issues hitting the hole, neither are explosive anymore, and truthfully neither should be starting(Charles and Davis should). I don't like either of them. But to act like Larry Johnson is soooo much better than Jamal is just funny.

Lewis didn't even hit 100 yards one time last year. He played some horrible defenses last year and put up ****ty numbers against them also. You listed 5 games. Yet in the other 11 Jamal Lewis didn't do **** in those either.

Johnson is soooo much better then Jamal.

saaltydog
09-10-2009, 10:32 AM
he is sooooooooooo much better. thats the funny part. dude jamal lewis is terribly slow, lj can still break huge runs, he was hurt last year, how can you even compare them?

Lewis only had 3 runs of 20+ yards last year. His longest being 29 yards. Larry Johnson did it 5 times with a couple 60+ Yards. That includes him missing 4 games.

FullMetal
09-10-2009, 11:13 PM
normal yahoo H2H league

qb-cutler
wr-fitzgerald
wr-andre johnson
wr-marshall
rb-pierre thomas
rb-felix jones
te-dallas clark
k-gostkowski
def-NYG

bench
rb-thomas jones
wr-desean jackson
rb-larry johnson
qb-cassel
wr-derrick maso
te-fasano

wk1 i face

qb-rodgers
wr-randy moss
wr-steve smith (car)
wr-santonio holmes
rb-adrian peterson
rb-marion barber
te-owen daniels
k-david akers
def-GB

any changes i should make to my starters? and how do i look for week 1 against my opponent?

there has to be like 6 people in your league right?

anyway, his team is pretty sick. You didn't start off that great tonight with Holmes getting almost 20 pts. (w/No PPR).

sly_106
09-11-2009, 04:01 AM
I'd start Thomas Jones over Pierre. I don't think he'll get much playing time with his injury situation. Probably gonna see Bell out there instead

dirtdickens
09-11-2009, 04:56 AM
PT participated in the portion of practice the media was allowed to watch-individuals- and then did NOT take part in any team practice sessions. If he didnt go Thursday he isnt going to go Sunday.

I would consider playing Felix Jones. He is getting 50/50 and has looked amazing so far-Tampa's defense is going to be one of the lower ranked units this year. Dont play Larry Johnson. Only when situations dictate.

My team is almost identical
Rodgers
Fitz
Moss
Royal
PT
Felix
Mason

Messiahtype
09-14-2009, 06:13 AM
lmao remind me not to take fantasy advice from you


Since Jamal Lewis had 1000 yards last season he will get 1,000 this season? If he get's 1,000 this season does that mean he will get 1,000 next season? RB's decline faster then any other type of players in the league. Lewis has taken a beating in his career and it has caught up with him. You can tell he isn't the same player this pre-season.

Larry Johnson was out last year with a foot injury. So to compare the final yards at the end is not a good way to analyze who is better. Johnson who was playing behind a ****tier line average more YPC then Jamal did. Jamal's YPC was 3.6 and Larry Johnsons was 4.5. That is a huge difference. Johnson > Lewis and it's not even close.

You and you.

Felix Jones: 6 carries 22 yards, 3 kr 70 yards
Larry Johnson: 11 carries 20 yards, 1 catch 6 yards
Jamal Lewis: 11 carries 57 yards, 3 catches 47 yards