Fantasy Football Think Tank

[JC-orginalbdass]

What's your take on Greene's performance this past Sunday? Do you think he's gonna be a stud? I have one transaction left (it costs us $3 per transaction), unless I want to pay more money, which I could if I needed to.

Currently, I'm tied for the best record (5-2) in my 10 team league.

My team
QBs P. ManningM. Sanchez
RBs R. Rice, R. Williams, C. Portis, G. Coffee
WRs M. Colston, S. Holmes, H. Nicks
TEs G. Olsen, H. Miller
Ks M. Crosby, J. Reed
DSTs GB, NE

Should I drop Coffee and add Greene as my final transaction, or should I hold it, in the event of an injury? I feel pretty good about my back ups. My only concern would be if I lose 2 WR to injuries.

[lpsevier]

Coffee for Greene is a great transaction.

You can always pay more to continue to make moves right? I mean this doesn't lock you in to being done with changes for the season right?

[kethnaab]

standard ppr league (.5 per reception), QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, FLEX, TE, K, D/ST

QB - A. Rodgers
RB - R. Grant, M. Jones-Drew, R. Mendenhall, F. Jones
WR - S. Holmes, D. Jackson, M. Austin, S. Rice, R. Williams, D. Hester
TE - B. Celek, V. Davis
D/ST - Saints, Broncos
K - R. Longwell

I have a lot of decent receivers but wanted to package some players to go for a top 5 or top 10 wideout. Or use a package for a better rb, I don't like Mendenhall and his fumbles.

Mendenhall has fumbled twice. That's half as many fumbles as several others. Felix Jones is worthless. He'll be back, look great, then sprain his vagina and be out several games. Find some sucker willing to take a chance on him. Roy Williams, I believe, is out for the season.

Solid team overall. how many do you start each week?


What's your take on Greene's performance this past Sunday? Do you think he's gonna be a stud? I have one transaction left (it costs us $3 per transaction), unless I want to pay more money, which I could if I needed to.

Currently, I'm tied for the best record (5-2) in my 10 team league.

My team
QBs P. ManningM. Sanchez
RBs R. Rice, R. Williams, C. Portis, G. Coffee
WRs M. Colston, S. Holmes, H. Nicks
TEs G. Olsen, H. Miller
Ks M. Crosby, J. Reed
DSTs GB, NE

Should I drop Coffee and add Greene as my final transaction, or should I hold it, in the event of an injury? I feel pretty good about my back ups. My only concern would be if I lose 2 WR to injuries.

you only roster 3 WRs? Why do you have 2 defenses and 2 kickers? Drop a kicker and a defense. Your problem is lack of depth at WR. 3 solid WRs, but how many do you start?

[CYTX]

I received the following trade offer


I trade Portis and Donald Brown


I receive Chris Johnson and Glenn Coffee


The guy that offered is basically out of the running and wants brown as a keeper.

We can keep anyone after round 3 and we lose 2 rounds each year. I drafted Brown in round 6 so he would cost me a 4th rounder next year. Coffee was drafted real late so I could keep him with no impact.

My RBs would be after the trade

CJ, PThomas, KSmith, GCoffee, JLewis


Thanks for any help

[dirtdickens]

I dont think there is any right answer to that one. Addai looks good, which I was wrong about, and Coffee is a so so player when Gore is out. I dont see any upside this year for Portis or CJ. If anyone made out on that deal it would be purely by luck and not out of wisdom.


Talking about luck, the rumor of Vince Young starting this week would sink me. My team is so beat up right now that I am counting on Nate Washington to help me and if VY is the QB I would have to pickup and start someone like Chris Brown. I dont even have enough healthy starters to fill out my lineup this week.

[JC-orginalbdass]

you only roster 3 WRs? Why do you have 2 defenses and 2 kickers? Drop a kicker and a defense. Your problem is lack of depth at WR. 3 solid WRs, but how many do you start?

The way our league is set up, you must have 2 kickers and 2 DST. You also have to have 3 WR and 3 RB with a 'flex' player that can be any position. So, technically, I could drop a RB and pick up a WR.

BTW, we start 2 WR and 2 RB

[PotKettleBlack]

I received the following trade offer


I trade Portis and Donald Brown


I receive Chris Johnson and Glenn Coffee


The guy that offered is basically out of the running and wants brown as a keeper.

We can keep anyone after round 3 and we lose 2 rounds each year. I drafted Brown in round 6 so he would cost me a 4th rounder next year. Coffee was drafted real late so I could keep him with no impact.

My RBs would be after the trade

CJ, PThomas, KSmith, GCoffee, JLewis


Thanks for any help
I'd do that in a heartbeat in a keeper league. Portis is done, and Chris Johnson is still a very good RB despite Tennessee being horrid this year, he is the man in that offense, and will continue to be. Coffee for Brown is also in your favour, imo. San Francisco are essentially a running team, where as we all know, Indy are not. So you're getting the best of this trade. I'd do it so quick, lol.

[CYTX]

I'd do that in a heartbeat in a keeper league. Portis is done, and Chris Johnson is still a very good RB despite Tennessee being horrid this year, he is the man in that offense, and will continue to be. Coffee for Brown is also in your favour, imo. San Francisco are essentially a running team, where as we all know, Indy are not. So you're getting the best of this trade. I'd do it so quick, lol.

Thank for the feedback guys

I did it

I can't keep CJ so that is a this year only move and the Redskins are horrid. I really like Brown but I don't think he'll be a 4th rounder next year imo.

My other keepers as of now are looking like Steve Smith NYG (cost me a 10th next year) and maybe Nicks (Cost me a 12th next year)

[Nainoa]

I received the following trade offer


I trade Portis and Donald Brown


I receive Chris Johnson and Glenn Coffee


The guy that offered is basically out of the running and wants brown as a keeper.

We can keep anyone after round 3 and we lose 2 rounds each year. I drafted Brown in round 6 so he would cost me a 4th rounder next year. Coffee was drafted real late so I could keep him with no impact.

My RBs would be after the trade

CJ, PThomas, KSmith, GCoffee, JLewis


Thanks for any help

I wouldn't just because Donald Brown might be worth a second rounder next year depending on what happens with Addai's contract.

But if you take the keeper considerations out... The trade is in your favor for sure.

[BeardBrahhh]

Hey guys...

I've been offered Wes Welker for Marion Barber.

Not sure if I should take it or not... Welker has seemed to have come alive recently and Barber has been stumbling. I know Barber will get back to scoring soon, but with the running back by commitee situation in Dallas, I never feel good starting him anymore. Last week he got me 4 points.

My WR's are: (we start 3, no flex)

Andre Johnson
Santonio Holmes
Hakeem Nicks
Devin Hester
Jericho Cotchery

My RB's are: (start 2, no flex)

Marion Barber
Ronnie Brown
Knowshon Moreno
Marshawn Lynch
Shonn Greene
Beanie Wells


So I could certainly use some more depth at WR, but still not sure if Welker is worth Barber. What do you guys think?

(Non keeper/PPR league BTW)

[Nainoa]

Hey guys...

I've been offered Wes Welker for Marion Barber.

Not sure if I should take it or not... Welker has seemed to have come alive recently and Barber has been stumbling. I know Barber will get back to scoring soon, but with the running back by commitee situation in Dallas, I never feel good starting him anymore. Last week he got me 4 points.

My WR's are:

Andre Johnson
Santonio Holmes
Hakeem Nicks
Devin Hester

My RB's are:

Marion Barber
Ronnie Brown
Knowshon Moreno
Marshawn Lynch
Shonn Greene
Beanie Wells


So I could certainly use some more depth at WR, but still not sure if Welker is worth Barber. What do you guys think?

(Non keeper/PPR league BTW)

Oh yeah... Jump on it...

Welker and the Pats have shaken the rust off and have their health situation straightened out... Barber is going to get relegated to Goal Line and Garbage time... Which while it might produce something... It won't be consistent...

I think Welker is going to start living up to expectations.

[BeardBrahhh]

Oh yeah... Jump on it...

Welker and the Pats have shaken the rust off and have their health situation straightened out... Barber is going to get relegated to Goal Line and Garbage time... Which while it might produce something... It won't be consistent...

I think Welker is going to start living up to expectations.

Awesome... yeah I posted this question yesterday and that seems to be the consensus, but for some reason the trade disappeared yesterday. I log in today and there it is again (second thoughts maybe? lol)...

With that said, can you rub the old elbow and tell me which RB should I start? (I realize its a crap shoot with these guys, but any advice is helpful)

Lynch vs. Houston
Moreno @ Baltimore
Greene vs. Miami
Wells vs. Carolina

[tino124]

Alright, im getting killed by the bye this week... Palmer, Benson and Bowe out...

I need to make a deal because I am 2-5 and need to start winning. Traded Forte for Smith NYG and Grant last week and finally won a game.

Right now I have Brees, Flacco and Palmer as my QB's.

RBs are Slaton, Grant, Benson, Bradshaw and Williams and Fred Jackson.
WR's are S. Smith NYG, Desean Jackson, Bowe, and Edwards.

I was thinking of trying to trade either Flacco or Palmer and a lesser WR for a stud WR, because I feel like my RB's are pretty good.

What do you guys think??

[The_Albatross]

Mendenhall has fumbled twice. That's half as many fumbles as several others. Felix Jones is worthless. He'll be back, look great, then sprain his vagina and be out several games. Find some sucker willing to take a chance on him. Roy Williams, I believe, is out for the season.

Solid team overall. how many do you start each week?



Our starting positions are QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, TE, D/ST, K

Concerning Felix Jones, yeah, he is pretty much worthless. I made a claim for Shonn Greene a few days ago, with Jones getting dropped if I do manage to get Greene off the waiver wire. Its a 12 team league so finding available players that will have any sort of impact is rare.

[Nainoa]

Awesome... yeah I posted this question yesterday and that seems to be the consensus, but for some reason the trade disappeared yesterday. I log in today and there it is again (second thoughts maybe? lol)...

With that said, can you rub the old elbow and tell me which RB should I start? (I realize its a crap shoot with these guys, but any advice is helpful)

Lynch vs. Houston
Moreno @ Baltimore
Greene vs. Miami
Wells vs. Carolina

Call me crazy (Or biased since I drafted Shonn Greene and kept a bench spot for him all this time.)

But I'm going to say "Shonn Greene"

I just get the feeling that with T-Jones at the end of his contract and near the end of his career that Rex Ryan is going to give Greene a full audition to help him with off season moves and thoughts.

And I think it's going to equal "Fantasy Relevant" points for Greene this week.


Wells I think "Looks" better than he'll "Stat."

Psychic Left Elbow Tells me Moreno.

Baltimore's D is showing that it's mortal. And they can't stop the pass with their DB's... They know it... McDaniels Knows it...

The next best weapon to stop a strong passing game is to blitz the hell out of them.

The offensive reaction to this is to run the ball to grind that pass rush down... And this opens up that 4th quarter Running back big play.

*The flipside is that it could equate to a 4th quarter big play passing.

One way or another... Either Moreno is going to go off... Or a passing play (Most likely Marshall) is going to go off.


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As for Lynch... Until Buffailo prooves otherwise... I just can't get behind any Bills player.

[FullMetal]

http://i33.tinypic.com/f36cxw.jpg

No PPR. 10 person league.

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I have lost all faith in Steve Smith, or at least Delhomme. They might start a different QB and Arizona has given up some big plays to receivers this year. Not sure if I am willing to sub him for White this week, or even move him to flex and bench Addai.

Pretty set in stone with playing LT. As I have said in other threads I think he is going to bust a big game this week against Oakland's horrid run defense.

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Mike Bell this week instead of Addai?

Addai has scored a TD in last three games.

Mike Bell will be the goal line machine for NO, but Atlanta's run D looked pretty solid against Dallas until the latter part of the game. Sure he isn't getting the full load, but I can see him doing his best Jerome Bettis impression this week.

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Waiver moves at the top.
Elam isn't doing well for fantasy and Denver's kicker is available.

Mike Wallace is on the board as well as Beanie Wells.

If Wells keeps coming on strong he could be starting the first two weeks of my league's playoffs against SF and DET. I won't expect much from him. but I figured it would be a decent replacement for Stewart whom didn't do anything for me last week against a horrible Buffalo rushing D. EDIT: I changed my mind and decided to hold on to J-Stew.

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After this week I am dropping Giants D for Patriots D. Car and Buf first two weeks of the playoffs for them. I would like to hold on to Pit D for the Cin KC Bal Oak run they have coming up.

[Mistermidas]

Just got offered a fairly good trade here. I get P.Rivers, and D.Mason...he gets S.Smith (NY) and B.Favre. Now, if I took this trade it would be AFTER this week because I have 2 other of my starters on a bye this week, but it looks solid.

My other receivers are B.Marshall, TJ Hous, S.Breaston, and A.Boldin. Backup, well if I trade my backup, QB is Kurt Warner. Smith I believe has proven his talent, but not sure if he'll continue to have those big games all year, where Mason is Bmore's undisputed #1 receiver. So, any thoughts...should I go ahead and pull the trigger on this one, or let it be?

Ok, I got him to go through with this trade, even though he tried to back out of it for a lil while. And now I have another interesting trade that I want to make, tell me what u guys think. Im going to offer A.Boldin and TJ Hous, for V.Jackson. My other receivers are B.Marshall, D.Mason, and S.Breaston. His receivers are V.Jackson, A.Johnson, J.Croutchery, B.Edwards, and M.Crabtree (he took a chance on him beginning of the season lol).

So for HIM, I believe its a win since he'd replace two wasted roster spots (Croutchery and Edwards IMO) with two proven vets. But is it worth it on my end is the question? I have Rivers now, and alot of the big plays Rivers make go through Jackson, but before I offer this, what do u guys think?

[Mark004]

PPR league, 10 rush/receiving = 1 point, 6 for a td

Pick 1QB, 2Rb's, 2WRs, and 1 rb/wr flex

Tony Romo @ Seattle
Donovan Mcnabb @ Giants

Chris Johnson @ Jax
Frank Gore @ Indie
Steve Slaton @ Buffalo
Glen Coffee @ Indie
Shonn Greene @ Miami
Jonathan Stewart @ Arizona

Vincent Jackson @ Oakland
Braylon Edwards @ Miami
Mario Manningham @ Philli
Tj Houshmanzadeh @ Dallas
Devin Hester @ Cleveland

I am leaning towards
Romo
Slaton
Johnson
V-Jax
Hester
Gore

However, i am scared of the oakland matchup with V-Jackson, despite Kethnabb reasuring me about him beating Asomugha on a consistent basis. I also feel that Miami will stop the jets run first and foremost, leading to Braylon having a good day, especially with Will Allen out. Hester has been nothing but impressive in my opinion, and TJ has been better and better with each passing week. I can't make the wrong picks this week. I am playing the best team in the league, and currently sit at 4-3.

[jvinci]

Ok, I got him to go through with this trade, even though he tried to back out of it for a lil while. And now I have another interesting trade that I want to make, tell me what u guys think. Im going to offer A.Boldin and TJ Hous, for V.Jackson. My other receivers are B.Marshall, D.Mason, and S.Breaston. His receivers are V.Jackson, A.Johnson, J.Croutchery, B.Edwards, and M.Crabtree (he took a chance on him beginning of the season lol).

So for HIM, I believe its a win since he'd replace two wasted roster spots (Croutchery and Edwards IMO) with two proven vets. But is it worth it on my end is the question? I have Rivers now, and alot of the big plays Rivers make go through Jackson, but before I offer this, what do u guys think?


i'd say that's a good trade. vincent jackson is solid this year and rivers really goes to him. if you can distract him with the other two's flashy names, this could prove very good for you.

[Nainoa]

PPR league, 10 rush/receiving = 1 point, 6 for a td

Pick 1QB, 2Rb's, 2WRs, and 1 rb/wr flex

Tony Romo @ Seattle
Donovan Mcnabb @ Giants

Chris Johnson @ Jax
Frank Gore @ Indie
Steve Slaton @ Buffalo
Glen Coffee @ Indie
Shonn Greene @ Miami
Jonathan Stewart @ Arizona

Vincent Jackson @ Oakland
Braylon Edwards @ Miami
Mario Manningham @ Philli
Tj Houshmanzadeh @ Dallas
Devin Hester @ Cleveland

I am leaning towards
Romo
Slaton
Johnson
V-Jax
Hester
Gore

However, i am scared of the oakland matchup with V-Jackson, despite Kethnabb reasuring me about him beating Asomugha on a consistent basis. I also feel that Miami will stop the jets run first and foremost, leading to Braylon having a good day, especially with Will Allen out. Hester has been nothing but impressive in my opinion, and TJ has been better and better with each passing week. I can't make the wrong picks this week. I am playing the best team in the league, and currently sit at 4-3.

I agree, and would go Braylon instead of Hester... But I think the Jets Run game will still find a way to do well even with Miami Keying in on them... And that Key in will give braylon a big play.

[miscreant5]

What do you guys think of this trade - Cedric Benson/Nate Burleson for Thomas Jones/Calvin Johnson/Pierre Thomas?

[biggquis]

What do you guys think of this trade - Cedric Benson/Nate Burleson for Thomas Jones/Calvin Johnson/Pierre Thomas?

WTF... If you're giving up Ced Ben and Nate... do it phaggot. Thomas Jones is the man with Washington gone, Megatron will be the man when he's back, and if fragile Mike Bell goes down again, PT will be the talk of the fantasy world again.

[GaDoomZ]

Who To Start This Week?

Should I start Marshawn or DeAngelo??

and

Should I start Miles Austin or Mike Sims Walker??

[EatMarkers4lunch]

chris johnson should I replace him as Tenn is going down the drain? Who should I try to get in return or maybe I could add a decent wr like housh or hester. C. Johnson for benson I thought would be a good deal what yall think?

[biggquis]

Who To Start This Week?

Should I start Marshawn or DeAngelo??

and

Should I start Miles Austin or Mike Sims Walker??

I don't like anyone running against the Cardinals right now. DeAngelo hasn't been consistent enough to start in tough matchups like this one, so I'd go Lynch at RB. As far as Receiver, its a toss up. Seattle is nasty against the pass, but I believe better than Tennessee. Sims-Walker is good, but we don't know which Garrard is gonna show up this weekend. I'd say Austin is a safer bet.

[biggquis]

chris johnson should I replace him as Tenn is going down the drain? Who should I try to get in return or maybe I could add a decent wr like housh or hester. C. Johnson for benson I thought would be a good deal what yall think?

Tough call. I have CJ in my money league, and I'm not gonna part with him. Too much potential for huge games there. Benson has been very consistent this year, but if the Titans ever figure out to just give CJ the ball, he's gonna do crazy things with it.

[GaDoomZ]

Also should I start Warner or Garrad? Warner hasnt gotten more than 20 points in any game.

This is my team

QB:Warner
WR: Vincent Jackson
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Miles Austin
RB: Maurice Jones Drew
RB: DeAngelo Williams
TE: Antonio Gates
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Saints

Bench:
Tom Brady
Marshawn Lynch
Mike-Sims Walker
David Garrad
Jonhthan Stewart

10 man league, Default ESPN settings

[BrawnySwoleman]

Also should I start Warner or Garrad? Warner hasnt gotten more than 20 points in any game.

This is my team

QB:Warner
WR: Vincent Jackson
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Miles Austin
RB: Maurice Jones Drew
RB: DeAngelo Williams
TE: Antonio Gates
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Saints

Bench:
Tom Brady
Marshawn Lynch
Mike-Sims Walker
David Garrad
Jonhthan Stewart

10 man league, Default ESPN settings

Garrard for sure. He'll probably get you 250 yards, 2 tds, and like 30-40 yards rushing against the Titans terrible D. The Panthers (to my surprise) have the leagues best passing D.

[miscreant5]

Do you guys think it's worth picking up Anthony Gonzalez just for what he could potentially accomplish even though he's a couple of weeks out from recovering fully? I would wait to get him later, but there are a lot of teams active in claiming players off the WW in my league so I might have to get him early.

[xzp]

QB Question..I drafted Ryan as a started and Favre as a backup, I have started Favre over Ryan a few times now, and he's paid off.

This week however, even with Ryan playing NO, I think he might be the better pick. Unlike the Giants I think the Falcons will be able to have a steady offense and they might throw more.
Favre..I think he might struggle in GB, the weather and I think they'll run the ball a LOT more.

Any advice?

[bigbridrol]

Who has more fantasy value going forward (I can hold two)

Beanie wells slowly becoming #1 guy

Shonn Green: replacing leon but a #2

Jamal Charles: just heard news larry johnson will most likely never play as a cheif again so again another #1


Again, NOT for this week. This is long term this year value no PPR

edit* if this makes any difference, bigger bonuses for long TD plays

[dirtdickens]

I dont think Beanie will get enough as the #2 in a pass all day offense. Even if he does overtake Hightower you know he is getting hurt soon. The offensive line isnt built for run blocking and aside from like a 6 game stint last year the Cards have never tried to run the ball. OC Haley is gone. I'm a Weenie hater, but my unbiased take is that he would be great trade bait right now.

Greene is in a run only offense and I dont know how the carries will split with Jones because they are similar backs, but I think he has the upside going forward. Line is built for the run and they will be playing in the cold soon.

Charles is pretty junk, but he has a nice schedule for the playoffs. I would keep him over Beanie.

[Push Press Potts]

Should i drop Olsen for Shockey?

10 yds = 1pt
TD = 6pts

NON PPR

[efoi]

Not gonna risk starting Ryan against the NO defense this weekend...so should I start Flacco or Hasselbeck?

[Amb11]

Also should I start Warner or Garrad? Warner hasnt gotten more than 20 points in any game.

This is my team

QB:Warner
WR: Vincent Jackson
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Miles Austin
RB: Maurice Jones Drew
RB: DeAngelo Williams
TE: Antonio Gates
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Saints

Bench:
Tom Brady
Marshawn Lynch
Mike-Sims Walker
David Garrad
Jonhthan Stewart

10 man league, Default ESPN settings

Wow, you're team is nasty for a 10 man league. How'd you get all those players?

[PotKettleBlack]

Who has more fantasy value going forward (I can hold two)

Beanie wells slowly becoming #1 guy

Shonn Green: replacing leon but a #2

Jamal Charles: just heard news larry johnson will most likely never play as a cheif again so again another #1


Again, NOT for this week. This is long term this year value no PPR

edit* if this makes any difference, bigger bonuses for long TD plays
I'd still rather have Greene. Wells is in a pass-oriented offense, and Charles is at KC...

[Nainoa]

What do you guys think of this trade - Cedric Benson/Nate Burleson for Thomas Jones/Calvin Johnson/Pierre Thomas?

Eh...
I'd sit on that...

T-Jones might get shown the door for the sake of shonn greene as you start getting into the fantasy playoffs...

Megatron... Hey I love him, I own him... But he's struggling this year.

PT... no matter how you slice it, the guy is part of a 3 headed monster on a pass-first offense... He's going to be inconsistent.

Ced-Ben... Is currently a top 5 back playing like a top 5 back on a top 10 team, and smells way more like a proven commodity... And going into the Fantasy Playoffs, you want that kind of Solid Rock of a player.

[awahl63]

I have to shake my head at this trade...

Owner A receives:
MJD

Owner B receives:
Marshawn Lynch
Percy Harvin

Owner A is notoriously sketchy...when he started off 0-3 he offered to trade me his team (AP, Boldin, White...) for pretty much noone. He's won the last 3 games and is moving his way towards the #1 spot.

I won't veto the trade but damn I wish he didn't get MJD.

[Nainoa]

Not gonna risk starting Ryan against the NO defense this weekend...so should I start Flacco or Hasselbeck?

No offense, but you're letting highlight reels skew your choice here

Yes Sharper is playing like a man on fire, and yes they're playing like they are a borderline top 10 D

But really..> Saints are 11th against the pass... A stat that is padded a little bit by games against Detroit who sucks, Buffalo, who sucks, and the Jets on the week Sanchez decided to play like a rookie.

I would also argue that the Giants came into that game arrogant and unprepared.

So really... I think if they would have been playing all Giants and Eagles and Atlanta like Offenses... They'd be ranked around 15th or so against the pass.

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Cliffs: This is not a time to play the matchups.

[kethnaab]

I have to shake my head at this trade...

Owner A receives:
MJD

Owner B receives:
Marshawn Lynch
Percy Harvin

Owner A is notoriously sketchy...when he started off 0-3 he offered to trade me his team (AP, Boldin, White...) for pretty much noone. He's won the last 3 games and is moving his way towards the #1 spot.

I won't veto the trade but damn I wish he didn't get MJD.

depending upon how your roster and scoring are, that might not be such a bad trade for him, although I don't like it, value-wise.



But really..> Saints are 11th against the pass... A stat that is padded a little bit by games against Detroit who sucks, Buffalo, who sucks, and the Jets on the week Sanchez decided to play like a rookie.

I would also argue that the Giants came into that game arrogant and unprepared.

So really... I think if they would have been playing all Giants and Eagles and Atlanta like Offenses... They'd be ranked around 15th or so against the pass.

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Cliffs: This is not a time to play the matchups.

right.

Yes, New Orleans sure seems great, but they played against

1) Matthew Stafford (rookie)
2) Mark Sanchez (rookie)
3) Chad Henne (injury backup)
4) Kevin Kolb (injury backup)

The only "starters" have been Eli and Trent Edwards. Yep, Eli looked like ****, as he is prone to do. Trent Edwards sucks.

That being said, I don't think that Flacco or Hasselbeck are substantially worse than Ryan on a week to week basis, so matchups may very well be in order this week.

Hasselbeck goes on the road to Dallas. I don't like it. the Seahawks are down Walter Jones and they have a dope that will be trying to block DeMarcus Ware all game long. Good luck with that. Hasselbeck is about as mobile as Kurt Warner.

Flacco has Denver at home. Denver started off the season against Palmer, Brady 'Quinn and Jamarcus Russell and obviously tore them up.

They stonewalled Tony Romo, but haven't produced a turnover from a QB since week 4 and have given up 500 yards, 3 TDs, 0 picks, in the last 2 games against Brady and Rivers. Denver has an undersized front and I bet that Baltimore attacks the running game like mad to take advantage of Denver's "quickness over strength" front 7. Flacco should get a few deep ones in. I don't think he's any worse than Ryan.

At the very least, you know Ryan will have to chuck the ball to keep up on offense

[Nainoa]

Okay... So here's a question I'm waffling on...

Need to choose 2
My Backs (Keeper League)
Standard Scoring

Turner (vs NO, #7 against Run)
D-will (vs Az, #1 against Run)
Slaton

I think Slaton is coming out of his funk thanks to his addition to the passing game, and is playing Buffalo.

So I'm trying to decide between Turner or D-will... Waffled so many times I'm afraid I'm giving myself a case of "Think Yourself Stupid."

Also sitting on my Bench

Shonn Greene
J-Stew
LJ (Don't need to hear it.) ;)



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On a side note...

LenDale White was just dropped... (With 2 more years after this one available in his keeper contract)

Thinking about dropping LJ and picking him up.

[Mistermidas]

QB Question..I drafted Ryan as a started and Favre as a backup, I have started Favre over Ryan a few times now, and he's paid off.

This week however, even with Ryan playing NO, I think he might be the better pick. Unlike the Giants I think the Falcons will be able to have a steady offense and they might throw more.
Favre..I think he might struggle in GB, the weather and I think they'll run the ball a LOT more.

Any advice?

Why would Favre struggle in GB weather when he played there his whole career, but Ryan would be a better pick against NO, when NO is the #1 fantasy defense (at least in my league)? That logic is totally off. I believe Favre will have another big game coming back to GB, and Ryan will have either an average game, or a bad one. Go with Favre man.

[kethnaab]

Turner (vs NO, #7 against Run)
D-will (vs Az, #1 against Run)
Slaton

Shonn Greene
J-Stew
LJ (Don't need to hear it.) ;)

LenDale White was just dropped... (With 2 more years after this one available in his keeper contract)

Thinking about dropping LJ and picking him up.

1) Lendale is an easy one. LJ is useless, Lendale is useless unless CJ3 gets injured. Lendale at least can score TDs

as for the RB predicament, I'm in a similar boat in a few of my leagues.

Here's how I look at it.

1) Arizona is #1 against the run, but how misleading is that? Shaun Hill dropped 200+ and a TD, Garrard dropped 282 and 2 TDs, Peyton and Schaub both blew up for 370+ and 6 TDs between them. Why the heck would ANYONE run when their pass defense is THAT BAD?

Of course, John Fox is quite possibly the stupidest coach in the NFL. Buffalo had the #32 ranked run defense and the 4th ranked pass defense, and Delhomme was throwing picks all season, so of course Fox decided to try to score on the pass defense.

Since Arizona's run defense is "so good", perhaps the idiot will try to run?

2) Slaton is playing against Buffalo, but Slaton has scored 2 rushing TDs in 7 games, and has yet to break 76 yards rushing in a game. If you're not PPR, you're hurting. In non-PPR leagues, he should have about 94.5 points, which is not that impressive in 7 games. In a PR league, I'd say he's a must-start, but his running itself hasn't gotten on track really.

3) Turner looked good against Carolina and good against SF. Otherwise, he's been downright bad. He got fat and lazy in the offseason and ballooned up to 270 lbs, and he is suffering as a result of it. Fatcat liked his fat contract and now he's being a lazy fatcat.

I'd go Slaton and DWill

[dirtdickens]

Lendale is worthless this year, but less so than LJ obviously.

Anyone have word on Chris Brown getting some GL action. I made a post about it, but nothing.

Seriously my starters this week are
Schaub
Fitz
DMason
Felix
Choice
Celek
NWashington
PT

[Nainoa]

Lendale is worthless this year, but less so than LJ obviously.

Anyone have word on Chris Brown getting some GL action. I made a post about it, but nothing.

Seriously my starters this week are
Schaub
Fitz
DMason
Felix
Choice
Celek
NWashington
PT

As much as I don't like the idea of Felix and Choice as your 1-2 punch... I have a hard time valuing Chris Brown a head of them.

[kethnaab]

Lendale is worthless this year, but less so than LJ obviously.

Anyone have word on Chris Brown getting some GL action. I made a post about it, but nothing.

Seriously my starters this week are
Schaub
Fitz
DMason
Felix
Choice
Celek
NWashington
PT

ew. good God, that's terrible

[mm55]

I have a tough flex predicament this week, with lil leon going dow for the season I have to fill my flex spot with either ricky williams vs Jets, or lesean mccoy against the giants.

Westbrook is a gametime decision so if he doesn't go obviously mccoy gets more looks out of the two, but I'm having a hard time deciding.

[GyM_RaT]

LOL this guy in my league offered Antonio Gates for Roy Williams to the commish and the deal went through. Guy had Jeremy Shockey as his #1 TE but still, Roy Williams??? LOL

[GyM_RaT]

Is Roddy white and Pierre Thomas for Vincent Jackson giving up too much???

[GaDoomZ]

Wow, you're team is nasty for a 10 man league. How'd you get all those players?

trade bait when people were having good games.

DeSean Jackson, Willis McGahee, Chris Johnson, Ryan Grant and some others

[PotKettleBlack]

Okay... So here's a question I'm waffling on...

Need to choose 2
My Backs (Keeper League)
Standard Scoring

Turner (vs NO, #7 against Run)
D-will (vs Az, #1 against Run)
Slaton

I think Slaton is coming out of his funk thanks to his addition to the passing game, and is playing Buffalo.

So I'm trying to decide between Turner or D-will... Waffled so many times I'm afraid I'm giving myself a case of "Think Yourself Stupid."

Also sitting on my Bench

Shonn Greene
J-Stew
LJ (Don't need to hear it.) ;)



******

On a side note...

LenDale White was just dropped... (With 2 more years after this one available in his keeper contract)

Thinking about dropping LJ and picking him up.
I'd start DAW, and Slaton. Turner hasn't looked all that hot this year, and at least DeAngelo has been making things happen when he gets the chance to do so, you've just gotta hope that for some reason John Fox snaps out of his idiocy, and lets him run the football.

[Nainoa]

Is Roddy white and Pierre Thomas for Vincent Jackson giving up too much???

Yes... Something modest in value should be added to the V-Jax side of that equation.

[CYTX]

I'm thinking of offering

PThomas/HNicks

for

BJacobs/BBerrian

The other owner has Bell and is hurting bad at WR

My Team after the trade

Rothlisburger, Hasslebeck
CJ, KSmith, Jacobs, JLewis, Coffee
SSmith (NYG), Jennings, Housh, Berrian, Moore, Schelins
VDavis, Carlson
Steelers D, Cards D
Kicker

[dirtdickens]

I dont know if I would want my best WR and my RB2 on the same offense. And Jacobs doesnt look like anything special right now.

As a fellow poster that invested heavily in PT I will admit I am worried as hell about him going forward. But, I am holding onto him because he has produced where others havent. Last 2 games have been brutal, but I dont think there is any rhyme or reason for who is scoring for the Saints right now. They went from passing every play, to running every play, to mixing it up and back. PT is bound to sort it out and you know what he can do when he is on.

[Gunnerfan]

Alright, getting killed and need a big week. League is PPR and PPC

First, running backs - need 2 to start - choice of Michael Turner, Marion Barber, Ricky Williams, Jonathan Stewart (not really in contention)
Receivers - need 2 to start - choice of Roddy White, Breaston, Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton

Second league and HUGE debate - Tomlinson or Shonn Greene?

Thanks...

[CYTX]

I dont know if I would want my best WR and my RB2 on the same offense. And Jacobs doesnt look like anything special right now.

As a fellow poster that invested heavily in PT I will admit I am worried as hell about him going forward. But, I am holding onto him because he has produced where others havent. Last 2 games have been brutal, but I dont think there is any rhyme or reason for who is scoring for the Saints right now. They went from passing every play, to running every play, to mixing it up and back. PT is bound to sort it out and you know what he can do when he is on.

Yeah I just got a feeling man. Not sure



Alright, getting killed and need a big week. League is PPR and PPC

First, running backs - need 2 to start - choice of Michael Turner, Marion Barber, Ricky Williams, Jonathan Stewart (not really in contention)
Receivers - need 2 to start - choice of Roddy White, Breaston, Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton

Second league and HUGE debate - Tomlinson or Shonn Greene?

Thanks...

I'd go Turner and Williams and White and Williams.

They are dogging Roy hard here in Dallas. Might be time for him to show some balls.

[miscreant5]

Who would you guys go for between Shonn Greene and Justin Fargas? I also have Thomas Jones, so if I play Greene, I'm banking on the fact that the Jets will hopefully run it a whole lot like they've been doing even though they're up against Miami's run D.

[xzp]

No offense, but you're letting highlight reels skew your choice here

Yes Sharper is playing like a man on fire, and yes they're playing like they are a borderline top 10 D

But really..> Saints are 11th against the pass... A stat that is padded a little bit by games against Detroit who sucks, Buffalo, who sucks, and the Jets on the week Sanchez decided to play like a rookie.

I would also argue that the Giants came into that game arrogant and unprepared.

So really... I think if they would have been playing all Giants and Eagles and Atlanta like Offenses... They'd be ranked around 15th or so against the pass.

******

Cliffs: This is not a time to play the matchups.

So, that being said, this is a tougher option.

Ryan or Favre???

[The_Albatross]

standard ppr league (.5 per reception), QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, FLEX, TE, K, D/ST

QB - A. Rodgers
RB - R. Grant, M. Jones-Drew, R. Mendenhall, F. Jones
WR - S. Holmes, D. Jackson, M. Austin, S. Rice, R. Williams, D. Hester
TE - B. Celek, V. Davis
D/ST - Saints, Broncos
K - R. Longwell

Should I do either of these?

1. A. Rodgers, R. Mendenhall, D. Hester for P. Manning and S. Breaston

2. S. Holmes and R. Grant for M. Colston

[kethnaab]

no to both. You have 3 solid starting RBs, and 3 solid starting WRs, perhaps 4 if Santonio can ever get into a groove.

Nice team.

[PotKettleBlack]

no to both. You have 3 solid starting RBs, and 3 solid starting WRs, perhaps 4 if Santonio can ever get into a groove.

Nice team.
This. That team is very good. I'm jealous.

[ejamiec]

Who to start this week For RB's and WR's.


RB's.. Darren Sproles vs Oakland
Matt Forte vs Clevland Browns
Brandon Jacobs vs Philadolphia
Corell Buckhalter vs Baltimore...


WR's. Automatic start is Colston
Automatic Start Sims Walker,
Torry Holt,
Johnny Knox
Steve Breaston.

who do i start?...

[CYTX]

Who to start this week For RB's and WR's.


RB's.. Darren Sproles vs Oakland
Matt Forte vs Clevland Browns
Brandon Jacobs vs Philadolphia
Corell Buckhalter vs Baltimore...


WR's. Automatic start is Colston
Automatic Start Sims Walker,
Torry Holt,
Johnny Knox
Steve Breaston.

who do i start?...


I'd start Jacobs/Forte and Knox

[CYTX]

Nainoa

I know you have the Lions forced down your throat so maybe you can give some advice here.

One guy offered me Forte for KSmith? My gut says no.

[Nainoa]

Nainoa

I know you have the Lions forced down your throat so maybe you can give some advice here.

One guy offered me Forte for KSmith? My gut says no.

As in you get Forte? Or you Give Forte?

I still think they'll get Forte going... Maybe not in #1 back capacity... But they'll get him rolling at some point in a serviceable way... And that's worth gambling on... Over the Lions who are hapless at this point on all levels until stafford and megatron come back on line... And even then it's worth debating.

[CYTX]

As in you get Forte? Or you Give Forte?

I still think they'll get Forte going... Maybe not in #1 back capacity... But they'll get him rolling at some point in a serviceable way... And that's worth gambling on... Over the Lions who are hapless at this point on all levels until stafford and megatron come back on line... And even then it's worth debating.

yeah, I'd get Forte. the owner has had it with him and loves Smith for some reason. I told him let me think about it over the weekend and let him enjoy killing Cleveland. I guess the one reserve I have is that their FF playoff schedule is tough.

[Nainoa]

yeah, I'd get Forte. the owner has had it with him and loves Smith for some reason. I told him let me think about it over the weekend and let him enjoy killing Cleveland. I guess the one reserve I have is that their FF playoff schedule is tough.

Nah I'd grab Forte, at the snap... Don't let him on some random occurance have a big game at the last second and change this guys mind...

If you think you're going to make the playoffs as is... I'd add Forte now...

You can't win the NFC North without being able to run the ball in the bad weather time of year... Lovie Smith knows this... He's going to toss Forte at it over and over and over again. (Especially with the re-tool after the Bengals game)

Forte is worth the stash for the playoffs...

yes it is a bit of a gamble... But the upside on the NET whole is higher than anything Detroits entire running game can produce!!!!

[OrdoAbchao]

Need some actual help this week...

Knoshown Moreno vs Balt

Mike Bell vs ATL


For flex: Need 1 of these or I can use the RB's from above for both spots


Austin Collie vs SF
John Carlson vs Dallas
Bernard Berrian vs GB (def not putting him in)
Jason Snelling vs NO (not really considering him either)

[PotKettleBlack]

Nah I'd grab Forte, at the snap... Don't let him on some random occurance have a big game at the last second and change this guys mind...

If you think you're going to make the playoffs as is... I'd add Forte now...

You can't win the NFC North without being able to run the ball in the bad weather time of year... Lovie Smith knows this... He's going to toss Forte at it over and over and over again. (Especially with the re-tool after the Bengals game)

Forte is worth the stash for the playoffs...

yes it is a bit of a gamble... But the upside on the NET whole is higher than anything Detroits entire running game can produce!!!!
Ideally they do this sooner rather than later so that there's at least some threat of the run, so Cutler isn't getting picked off 28 times a game. Considering both of them are on my roster, I'd like them to get it going soon. And as you say, if they want to make the playoffs, why wouldn't they, they need to get the run game online.

The thing with that is... They seem to be giving Garrett Wolfe a few looks, so I wonder how much thought is going into a potential 1-2 punch.

[DL Addict]

Need some actual help this week...

Knoshown Moreno vs Balt

Mike Bell vs ATL


For flex: Need 1 of these or I can use the RB's from above for both spots


Austin Collie vs SF
John Carlson vs Dallas
Bernard Berrian vs GB (def not putting him in)
Jason Snelling vs NO (not really considering him either)

I like Knowshon and Collie. Knowshon gets Baltimore, but they have allowed 2 straight RBs to go over 100 yards, and Benson got a TD. They have been beat bad by the pass in most games this year, and it looks to me like their defensive strategy has changed to combat that. That allows RBs to find some breathing room, and get to the 2nd level. Peyton should pick apart SF backfield, giving Wayne, Collie and Clark solid numbers.

My .02

[PotKettleBlack]

Do I play Breaston or Devery Henderson? I picked up Henderson off waivers as a 213192739th choice because I knew I'd get shafted for most of my top choices, and I did, but he isn't a terrible an aquisition as he could've been.

I'm thinking Breaston, but I'm not 100%.

[OrdoAbchao]

I like Knowshon and Collie. Knowshon gets Baltimore, but they have allowed 2 straight RBs to go over 100 yards, and Benson got a TD. They have been beat bad by the pass in most games this year, and it looks to me like their defensive strategy has changed to combat that. That allows RBs to find some breathing room, and get to the 2nd level. Peyton should pick apart SF backfield, giving Wayne, Collie and Clark solid numbers.

My .02

That's what I have as of right now I just afraid to bench Bell for some reason. Goal line carries and he had some decent yardage last week.

[DL Addict]

Do I play Breaston or Devery Henderson? I picked up Henderson off waivers as a 213192739th choice because I knew I'd get shafted for most of my top choices, and I did, but he isn't a terrible an aquisition as he could've been.

I'm thinking Breaston, but I'm not 100%.

Breaston would be my choice. Devery is hit or miss...mostly miss...Breaston is the safer play.

[DL Addict]

Scoring...10yds/pt rush/rec, 1pt/rec, 6pts/td.

LT V OAK, MB3 V SEA or Knowshon V BAL... pick 2.
Currently LT ad Knowshon...MB3 tempting though...over Knowshon.

Scoring...1pt/yd rush/rec, 4pt/rec, 40pts/td

JStew V ARI or T Choice V SEA? Pick 1.
Currently JStew.

Thanks

[ejamiec]

Who to start this week For RB's and WR's.


RB's.. Darren Sproles vs Oakland
Matt Forte vs Clevland Browns
Brandon Jacobs vs Philadolphia
Corell Buckhalter vs Baltimore...


WR's. Automatic start is Colston
Automatic Start Sims Walker,
Torry Holt,
Johnny Knox
Steve Breaston.

who do i start?...

bump

[DL Addict]

Who to start this week For RB's and WR's.


RB's.. Darren Sproles vs Oakland
Matt Forte vs Clevland Browns
Brandon Jacobs vs Philadolphia
Corell Buckhalter vs Baltimore...


WR's. Automatic start is Colston
Automatic Start Sims Walker,
Torry Holt,
Johnny Knox
Steve Breaston.

who do i start?...

I assume you start 2 Rbs...My picks are Forte and Jacobs...with Sproles up there if you get 3. That's how I would rank them...Buckhalter isn't really an option.

If you need 1 more WR, I would go with Breaston.

[Fabs23]

I got Schaub and Warner. I've been starting Schaub all year however not sure who to start tomorrow. Warner (v Carolina) is ranked much higher than Schaub (@ Buf) on most of the boards this. Opinions on who to start needed. Thanks

[dirtdickens]

windy and cold for Schaub, Buffalo doesnt give up much in the passing game and Slaton will go crazy on a bad run defense.

Warner is your man for sure.

[LorTy]

Got a couple dilemmas in my lineup this week in my wr2 and flex spots...

WR - Derrick Mason or Johnny Knox
Flex - Shonn Greene, Felix Jones, or whichever WR above i don't start

No PPR, 0.5 pts per 25 kickoff return yds, 1 pt per 25 punt return yds

Any advice is appreciated!

[dirtdickens]

Knox, Greene and Jones. No PPR takes the value away from Mason and his matchup isnt that great to begin with. Not crazy about either back this week either, but you do what you gotta do.

[kethnaab]

definitely Green and Knox

[miscreant5]

Two of my WRs, Calvin Johnson and Mario Manningham, are inactive this week. I have to choose between Lance Moore (against Atlanta) and Roy Williams (against Seattle) to fill a WR spot. Who do you guys think is better?

[pedobearu_aware]

Pick 2 of 4

Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin
Calvin Johnson
Desean Jackson

[Mark004]

Pick 2 of 4

Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin
Calvin Johnson
Desean Jackson

Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin

those are my picks. I don`t think you can go wrong with anyone except Calvin. Calvin is hurt and isn`t suiting up today.

[monsterBEN]

Multiple sources are saying Calvin is out...


EDIT: ninja edit got me.

[monsterBEN]

IND @ home vs SF

or

DAL @ home vs Sea

[Fabs23]

IND @ home vs SF

or

DAL @ home vs Sea

close one, I'd go Dallas.

Who to start Jacobs or Bradshaw?

[Mark004]

close one, I'd go Dallas.

Who to start Jacobs or Bradshaw?

Jacobs

[monsterBEN]

Jacobs

2nd that.

[Fabs23]

2nd that.


thats who I've been going with, but last few weeks Bradshaw has picked up more points. I hate second guessing myself then looking back and wondering why I didnt start someone else.

[dirtdickens]

Bradshaw has an injury to his foot that has basically been handled like this "You can play until your foot breaks" I wouldnt expect much from him the rest of the year.

[monsterBEN]

thats who I've been going with, but last few weeks Bradshaw has picked up more points. I hate second guessing myself then looking back and wondering why I didnt start someone else.

I think the cracked bone in Bradshaw's foot will catch up to him sooner or later...

[Fabs23]

I think the cracked bone in Bradshaw's foot will catch up to him sooner or later...

I know, his huge game a few weeks ago still burns me cause I sat him because of his foot. Waiting it to catch up with him so Jacobs gets the ball more, wish it would catch up to him sooner than later.

[blahblahblahh]

I've been lurking the fantasy forum for a while and you guys give some great advice lol, so I've got a question for you.

I've just been offered Ray Rice for Ochocinco, and I'm definitely thinking of taking it.

My current lineup is:

RBs: Forte/Grant/Beanie Wells/Jamaal Charles
WRs: Ochocinco/Calvin Johnson/Manningham/Hester/Burleson
QB: Rivers/Palmer
TE: Olsen/Shiancoe
Def: Green Bay

If I take this trade, my WR core would be pretty average, but I'm not sure how much longer Ochocinco is going to be performing at a very high level this season, and ray rice is beastly. I was thinking that I could probably work the waiver wire like I have been all season and find a somewhat decent replacement, or if I take the trade I could pawn off beanie/charles for another wr if either do decently in the next few weeks or maybe get rid of forte/grant.

Anything think I should take this trade? Thanks for any input, your guys' advice has been great the last few weeks lol.

Edit: The league scoring is standard not ppr, 10 yards per point for receptions and rushing with fractional points, 5 pts for reception touchdowns and 5 points for rushing tds

[sircharles032]

I've been lurking the fantasy forum for a while and you guys give some great advice lol, so I've got a question for you.

I've just been offered Ray Rice for Ochocinco, and I'm definitely thinking of taking it.

My current lineup is:

RBs: Forte/Grant/Beanie Wells/Jamaal Charles
WRs: Ochocinco/Calvin Johnson/Manningham/Hester/Burleson
QB: Rivers/Palmer
TE: Olsen/Shiancoe
Def: Green Bay

If I take this trade, my WR core would be pretty average, but I'm not sure how much longer Ochocinco is going to be performing at a very high level this season, and ray rice is beastly. I was thinking that I could probably work the waiver wire like I have been all season and find a somewhat decent replacement, or if I take the trade I could pawn off beanie/charles for another wr if either do decently in the next few weeks or maybe get rid of forte/grant.

Anything think I should take this trade? Thanks for any input, your guys' advice has been great the last few weeks lol.

Edit: The league scoring is standard not ppr, 10 yards per point for receptions and rushing with fractional points, 5 pts for reception touchdowns and 5 points for rushing tds

Normally I'd say go for it, but if you do this I think you need to package someone else and upgrade at receiver. You'd basically be starting Rice/Hester in place of Grant(or Forte)/Ocho. Basically you'll have a much more valuable RB sitting on the bench with a less valuable WR in the lineup. If you think you can trade and upgrade at WR then by all means do it.

[Fabs23]

I've been lurking the fantasy forum for a while and you guys give some great advice lol, so I've got a question for you.

I've just been offered Ray Rice for Ochocinco, and I'm definitely thinking of taking it.

My current lineup is:

RBs: Forte/Grant/Beanie Wells/Jamaal Charles
WRs: Ochocinco/Calvin Johnson/Manningham/Hester/Burleson
QB: Rivers/Palmer
TE: Olsen/Shiancoe
Def: Green Bay

If I take this trade, my WR core would be pretty average, but I'm not sure how much longer Ochocinco is going to be performing at a very high level this season, and ray rice is beastly. I was thinking that I could probably work the waiver wire like I have been all season and find a somewhat decent replacement, or if I take the trade I could pawn off beanie/charles for another wr if either do decently in the next few weeks or maybe get rid of forte/grant.

Anything think I should take this trade? Thanks for any input, your guys' advice has been great the last few weeks lol.

Edit: The league scoring is standard not ppr, 10 yards per point for receptions and rushing with fractional points, 5 pts for reception touchdowns and 5 points for rushing tds


Make it a package deal, get another WR

[blahblahblahh]

Normally I'd say go for it, but if you do this I think you need to package someone else and upgrade at receiver. You'd basically be starting Rice/Hester in place of Grant(or Forte)/Ocho. Basically you'll have a much more valuable RB sitting on the bench with a less valuable WR in the lineup. If you think you can trade and upgrade at WR then by all means do it.

Who do you think I should try and package to upgrade at WR? Is it worth it to hold onto Palmer as a backup qb even after Rivers' bye week is over? Was thinking of dropping either olsen or shiancoe after this week to pick up some waiver wire spots and I could probably manage a trade with charles/palmer/wells, but trades are pretty rare in my league.

Only 2 have gone to the review phase all season so I'm not sure if I'd be able to pickup a great wr since the people tend to hold onto their guys. Thanks for the advice btw

I dont think I can counter the offer and try to add a wr to the trade without him flatout rejecting it so I'd have to look to trade with other teams to get a WR

and top guys on ww for wr are:

anthony gonzalez
donnie avery
steve breaston
hixon
ginn
michael jenkins
maclin
bennett

[snwdevl10]

Ugh picked up Shonn Greene to replace Ced Benson on his bye this week and he's at -1 right now FFFFFUUUUUU

[sircharles032]

Who do you think I should try and package to upgrade at WR? Is it worth it to hold onto Palmer as a backup qb even after Rivers' bye week is over? Was thinking of dropping either olsen or shiancoe after this week to pick up some waiver wire spots and I could probably manage a trade with charles/palmer/wells, but trades are pretty rare in my league.

Only 2 have gone to the review phase all season so I'm not sure if I'd be able to pickup a great wr since the people tend to hold onto their guys. Thanks for the advice btw

I dont think I can counter the offer and try to add a wr to the trade without him flatout rejecting it so I'd have to look to trade with other teams to get a WR

and top guys on ww for wr are:

anthony gonzalez
donnie avery
steve breaston
hixon
ginn
michael jenkins
maclin
bennett

I'd drop one of your TEs and pick up gonzalez since he will be back in that powerful offense soon. I'd say find a team that doesn't have a stud QB. Package Palmer and one or your other receivers (throw in a RB if you're aiming really high). I can't really tell you anyone specific to aim for, but if you want to maximize value then you need to find someone that values the pieces that you are offering (A team that doesn't have a stud QB or strong RB depth).

Bottom line though, if you really like Rice or enjoy watching him play, do the trade (regardless of whether or not you can move for a receiver). Fantasy is supposed to be fun, there is nothing I hate more than watching games and having to pull against players that I really like.

[dirtdickens]

Picked up Hixon in place of Tashard Choice.

-1 point.

[PotKettleBlack]

Steve Breaston is infuriating. Every time I don't play him he has a big game, and every time I do he scores something like the five points he did last night.

Good old Chris Johnson, eh?!

Also, is it time to abandon ship on Jay Cutler? He didn't have a great game vs. Cleveland, although I realise he didn't exactly HAVE to sling the ball all over the place, but still, he's just so hit and miss at the moment.

[awahl63]

Picked up Hixon in place of Tashard Choice.

-1 point.

Haha I did the same b/c of bye week woes. I started Hixon instead of Cotchery...

Cotch - 10 points
Hixon - -1 point

Nice!

[DL Addict]

Steve Breaston is infuriating. Every time I don't play him he has a big game, and every time I do he scores something like the five points he did last night.

Good old Chris Johnson, eh?!

Also, is it time to abandon ship on Jay Cutler? He didn't have a great game vs. Cleveland, although I realise he didn't exactly HAVE to sling the ball all over the place, but still, he's just so hit and miss at the moment.

I <3 Chris Johnson.

I don't own Breaston for that reason alone. He's good, but that offense is notorious for being spotty...especially with Fitz and Boldin, and Warner checking down all the time.

Cutler is going to be an issue for your squad all year. I don't think he's bad, but his receivers are easy for defenses to attack. Only Greg Olsen has the route running capabilities to get open against defenses set up to stop the pass. Hester is still finding his way, Knox and Bennett are young and inexperienced. That's a bad combination unless Peyton is behind center...even then it would be a .500 team. The only problem is what to do with him. He wouldn't be my #1, that's for sure.

[PotKettleBlack]

I <3 Chris Johnson.

I don't own Breaston for that reason alone. He's good, but that offense is notorious for being spotty...especially with Fitz and Boldin, and Warner checking down all the time.

Cutler is going to be an issue for your squad all year. I don't think he's bad, but his receivers are easy for defenses to attack. Only Greg Olsen has the route running capabilities to get open against defenses set up to stop the pass. Hester is still finding his way, Knox and Bennett are young and inexperienced. That's a bad combination unless Peyton is behind center...even then it would be a .500 team. The only problem is what to do with him. He wouldn't be my #1, that's for sure.
I have no choice though. I pretty much have to start him vs. the Cardinals next week ahead of Romo vs. the Eagles, even if Romo is the hot hand, because of the defensive matchup. Although at least the Cardinals #1 run D has been exposed as a fraud because teams could just throw on them all day, so it looks as though Forte could get some decent points as well.

I wouldn't actually mind packaging Cutler and Forte for a QB if I thought I could get a reasonable deal out of that, but I'm not holding out much hope. People in my league are more concerned with the ''player rank'' in terms of points scored so far in fantasy. And these two aren't ranked that highly, so people just aren't willing to trade at all.

[DL Addict]

I have no choice though. I pretty much have to start him vs. the Cardinals next week ahead of Romo vs. the Eagles, even if Romo is the hot hand, because of the defensive matchup. Although at least the Cardinals #1 run D has been exposed as a fraud because teams could just throw on them all day, so it looks as though Forte could get some decent points as well.

I wouldn't actually mind packaging Cutler and Forte for a QB if I thought I could get a reasonable deal out of that, but I'm not holding out much hope. People in my league are more concerned with the ''player rank'' in terms of points scored so far in fantasy. And these two aren't ranked that highly, so people just aren't willing to trade at all.

I agree with you about Cutler over Romo for week 9. Romo is silly vs Philly, averaging 145 yards with a 1:1 TD:INT ratio through 6 career meetings. Maybe try to package Romo and Forte, and play Romo's hot hand...then use Cutler as a back up? Just thinking out loud here. lol.

Romo and Forte's value shouldn't be much higher than it it right now. Maybe you can get a Rivers/Schaub type player...in some sort of package.

Good luck.

[dirtdickens]

Haha I did the same b/c of bye week woes. I started Hixon instead of Cotchery...

Cotch - 10 points
Hixon - -1 point

Nice!

And on top of that I played Schaub over Hasselbeck this week beacuse of matchups. I am in that area where no matter which one I start the other one scores 30 while I am left with 3.

[CYTX]

I <3 Chris Johnson.

.

lol, I traded Portis/DBrown for him last week,


I still need a miracle though. I'm down 16 and I have PThomas and he has Shockey.

[PotKettleBlack]

I agree with you about Cutler over Romo for week 9. Romo is silly vs Philly, averaging 145 yards with a 1:1 TD:INT ratio through 6 career meetings. Maybe try to package Romo and Forte, and play Romo's hot hand...then use Cutler as a back up? Just thinking out loud here. lol.

Romo and Forte's value shouldn't be much higher than it it right now. Maybe you can get a Rivers/Schaub type player...in some sort of package.

Good luck.
Just to be very specific to your examples, the guy who has Rivers is a die-hard Chargers fan, so that's not gonna be viable, and the guy who has Schaub also has Brady, but as a Dallas fan he knows that Romo has horrible Decembers.

I'm still hung up about Forte. He has ability, and is a good running back, but he just doesn't seem to be adjusting well to Cutler being around, or Chicago aren't adjusting their system to utilise him properly. I've only seen them play twice this year, once was the first game of the season, where Cutler was horrible, and the other time was vs. Atlanta, and that was a mixture of both, so I just don't know.

It's hard to overlook that he has great matchups, vs. the Rams in the last week of the fantasy regular season, and then vs. the Lions in what will be the Fantasy Bowl, that I could really use...

[PotKettleBlack]

Just come up with a trade offer to my friend in the league who I am speaking to now...

He gives Schaub, Housh and potentially Mendenhall. And I give Romo, J-Stew and someone else if the Mendenhall bit gets added on.

Should solve my QB issues, and finally give me a solid #2 WR, hopefully. I'm pretty sure I should do it, any thoughts?

[Mistermidas]

Just come up with a trade offer to my friend in the league who I am speaking to now...

He gives Schaub, Housh and potentially Mendenhall. And I give Romo, J-Stew and someone else if the Mendenhall bit gets added on.

Should solve my QB issues, and finally give me a solid #2 WR, hopefully. I'm pretty sure I should do it, any thoughts?

Romo has been hot lately and found a new #1 receiver in Miles, so Schaub for Romo is pretty much even. I have Housh in my league, and he's been dissapointing in all but 2 games so far, mostly because of his QB. So if u do go through with the trade dont expect a big change in overall production, maybe even a loss.

[PotKettleBlack]

Romo has been hot lately and found a new #1 receiver in Miles, so Schaub for Romo is pretty much even. I have Housh in my league, and he's been dissapointing in all but 2 games so far, mostly because of his QB. So if u do go through with the trade dont expect a big change in overall production, maybe even a loss.
Romo is on my bench. He wouldn't be playing this week either, since he's terrible vs. Philly, has the dreaded December curse, which is approaching fast, etc.

As for Housh, all of my #2 WRs, and in one week, even both, have scored so few points it has been unreal. With J-Stew riding my bench, even though Carolina might be running the ball tons more now, he's still only a matchup guy for my FLEX spot.

[ty247]

Thinking of moving Steven Jackson to improve a woeful dynasty team..

Would you do this in a standard scoring format league, start 2 QB's? Guy needs a RB in a bad way.


Steven Jackson
Fred Jackson

for

Greg Jennings
Michael Crabtree
1st round dynasty pick

[blahblahblahh]

So my team is:

RBs: Rice/Forte/Grant/Beanie Wells/Jamaal Charles
WRs: Calvin Johnson/Manningham/Hester/Burleson
QB: Rivers/Palmer
TE: Olsen/Shiancoe
Def: Green Bay
K: Carney

I definitely need WR help and the guys I've been looking at on the waiver wire are: Maclin/Breaston/Anthony Gonzalez. I'm going to drop shiancoe this week to get one of these guys, but I don't know if I should get gonzalez to stash him away or if I should get Maclin who seems to be emerging. Or I could get both if I drop either beanie or charles. I'm leaning towards picking up gonzalez and maclin just because of their upside later on and dropping beanie since I doubt I will be starting him anytime soon.

Anyone think that is the best decision to do? Drop beanie/shiancoe and pick up gonzalez/maclin? Standard scoring no ppr, 5 points a td, 1 pt per 10 yards and Start 3 WR/2 RB

[JC-orginalbdass]

Would you start Ricky Williams against a banged up NE D-Line (Jarvis Green out), or Clinton Portis against the ATL, coming off a bye week?

[AFdave]

Gotta look for Williams to rebound this week!

[CYTX]

Traded Jennings for Boldin hoping that cake playoff schedule for AZ comes through for me.

[dirtdickens]

Traded Jennings for Boldin hoping that cake playoff schedule for AZ comes through for me.

Thats what I am talking about right there. Playoff schedule in mind.

[ras2514]

Would you start Ricky Williams against a banged up NE D-Line (Jarvis Green out), or Clinton Portis against the ATL, coming off a bye week?
I am in the same situation...any other thoughts on this?

[dirtdickens]

Clinton Portis is done, you know this and there is no reason to drag yourself through it again. both floors are low but Ricky can do WAY more than Portis ever will.

[AFdave]

Clinton Portis is done, you know this and there is no reason to drag yourself through it again. both floors are low but Ricky can do WAY more than Portis ever will.

Totally agree. Still not sure what was with Brown and Willimas last week, but they should be back this week. The Redskins do not have a favorable schedule coming up either.

[KingCanuck]

Eli or Flacco?

SD @ NYG
BAL @ Cinc

I am leaning towards Eli but hes been ****ting the bed the last 3 weeks

[kethnaab]

that's a tough one KC. SD is only giving up an average of about 178 yards/game through the air, and 9 TDs vs. 8 picks. Considering how porous their run defense is and how bad Eli's been playing, I'd have a tough time starting him over Flacco.

Cinci has averaged 250 yards passing against them, and with Odom out, their pass rush is dead. Odom has 8 of Cinci's 17 sacks this season, and he hasn't played in a few days. Interestingly enough, the only QB this season who HASN'T broken 200 yards against them is Flacco in week 5. in fact, Flacco produced the least amount of fantasy points this season against Cinci's defense. Every other QB has thrown for at least 243 yards and they've given up 250+ in 5 of their 7 games.

Hell, even Derek Anderson threw for 269 yards against them

I go Flacco.

[wrenny420]

So Vernon Davis or Witten.

I haven't started Davis once this year and it's costed me. It's just really really hard to sit Witten. Should I do it this week?

[dirtdickens]

Eli or Flacco?

SD @ NYG
BAL @ Cinc

I am leaning towards Eli but hes been ****ting the bed the last 3 weeks

I dont have a lot of faith in Eli right now. Their offense doesnt have an identity, they want to throw the ball all over, then they want to try to be a power running team and none of it works. SD isnt great, but they have the ability to pile it on if the opponents offense starts to struggle. No stats for this one, just my feelings on NYG.

Flacco is tearing it up. The last time these two played Cinci blanked DMason and they were on a string of shutting out their first five opponents passing games. Since that game people have went off on Cinci, their has been a 100 yard+1TD WR in every game since and another WR score in most of them. Not huge points, but better than what NYG will produce.

[dirtdickens]

Anyone that has roster space, just looked at Alex Smith's remaining schedule. His playoff matchups are a thing of beauty.

[kethnaab]

So Vernon Davis or Witten.

I haven't started Davis once this year and it's costed me. It's just really really hard to sit Witten. Should I do it this week?

Vernon Davis has 55 targets in 7 games. That's more in 7 games than he had all of last season. He has been double digit 3 of the last 5 weeks. He's on pace to get 128 targets. He leads the NFL in TD receptions. He leads the team in targets by a substantial margin. In 4 of the last 5 SF games, he was the ONLY targeted receiver for SF in the red zone.

Jason Witten has 48 targets in 7 games, on pace for his lowest total since 2006. Romo is spreading the ball around much more and they are scoring from much further away with Austin's speed. Austin also has twice as many RZ targets since week 5 as Witten has had all season combined.

He's always had more physical ability than anyone else, he just didn't produce due to pisspoor hands. Well, seems he solved his hands problems and has scored TDs in 4 of the last 5 SF games.

Vernon Davis is the new Jason Witten.

[Mistermidas]

Vernon Davis has 55 targets in 7 games. That's more in 7 games than he had all of last season. He has been double digit 3 of the last 5 weeks. He's on pace to get 128 targets. He leads the NFL in TD receptions. He leads the team in targets by a substantial margin. In 4 of the last 5 SF games, he was the ONLY targeted receiver for SF in the red zone.

Jason Witten has 48 targets in 7 games, on pace for his lowest total since 2006. Romo is spreading the ball around much more and they are scoring from much further away with Austin's speed. Austin also has twice as many RZ targets since week 5 as Witten has had all season combined.

He's always had more physical ability than anyone else, he just didn't produce due to pisspoor hands. Well, seems he solved his hands problems and has scored TDs in 4 of the last 5 SF games.

Vernon Davis is the new Jason Witten.

Good damn post, repped. Just to add, he's the new Jason Witten....with 4.4 speed. Sick.

[Harganoff]

Mendenhall @ Denver

OR

Maroney vs Miami

Mendenhall will most likely get more carries and starting a NE RB is terribly risky because you never know what will happen. I watch all Pats games and they are so random with the running game. I'm just worried that Denver will step its game up after the trashing by Baltimore. Opinions?

[Mistermidas]

Mendenhall @ Denver

OR

Maroney vs Miami

Mendenhall will most likely get more carries and starting a NE RB is terribly risky because you never know what will happen. I watch all Pats games and they are so random with the running game. I'm just worried that Denver will step its game up after the trashing by Baltimore. Opinions?

Maroney shouldnt ever come off the bench unless your other 2+ running backs are injured....period.

[Harganoff]

Maroney shouldnt ever come off the bench unless your other 2+ running backs are injured....period.

My thoughts exactly, thanks for the reassurance

[rsnnh12]

Which 2 to start at WR? .2PPR, 6/TD, 1/10 yards, 5 point bonus at 100 yards

Vincent Jackson @NYG
Dwayne Bowe @ Jax
Donald Driver @TB

All have pretty good matchups... I was planning on starting VJax and Bowe, because I don't see the Packers throwing much after the first half. I could start all 3 if I wanted to bench either Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco, but this seems like yet another good week to start both QBs. Thoughts?

Also, Pierre Thomas vs. Car, or Ronnie Brown @NE? Was leaning Pierre, but that monster game from Brown against NE when the wildcat broke is screwing with my mind.... Plus Jarvis Green will be out.

[Harganoff]

Which 2 to start at WR? .2PPR, 6/TD, 1/10 yards, 5 point bonus at 100 yards

Vincent Jackson @NYG
Dwayne Bowe @ Jax
Donald Driver @TB

All have pretty good matchups... I was planning on starting VJax and Bowe, because I don't see the Packers throwing much after the first half. I could start all 3 if I wanted to bench either Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco, but this seems like yet another good week to start both QBs. Thoughts?

Also, Pierre Thomas vs. Car, or Ronnie Brown @NE? Was leaning Pierre, but that monster game from Brown against NE when the wildcat broke is screwing with my mind.... Plus Jarvis Green will be out.

I say Jackson, Bowe and Thomas for RB. Brown tore the pats up last year because it was the first game anyone incorporated the wildcat so they weren't ready for it. They will be ready this time around.

[rsnnh12]

I say Jackson, Bowe and Thomas for RB. Brown tore the pats up last year because it was the first game anyone incorporated the wildcat so they weren't ready for it. They will be ready this time around.

K thanks for the reassurance. As a Pats fan, that game still haunts me haha. I know that the Wildcat isn't a shock anymore, but I really can't get past how badly Brown owned the Pats, and that there's always a chance he could do it again.

I know I'm overthinking it, thanks for backing it up

[BrawnySwoleman]

Pick 3 WR to start:
Steve Smith (NYG) vs. SD
Hines Ward vs. Den
Sims-Walker vs. KC
Bowe vs, Jac
R. Moss vs. MIA

I'm starting two RBs (AD is on bye, Westbrook is coming off injury, and Buckhalter doesn't seem like a strong play against the steelers.

[dirtdickens]

Moss
Sims Walker-absolute must
Bowe

[BrawnySwoleman]

Moss
Sims Walker-absolute must
Bowe

I can understand not starting Ward, but why is Sims-Walker an absolute must (over smith)? I've seen the chargers defense weekly, and it is not very good.

[Nainoa]

Thinking of moving Steven Jackson to improve a woeful dynasty team..

Would you do this in a standard scoring format league, start 2 QB's? Guy needs a RB in a bad way.


Steven Jackson
Fred Jackson

for

Greg Jennings
Michael Crabtree
1st round dynasty pick


I'd have to know more about your dynasty rules to say on something like that. And how bleak your playoff chances are.

Gut says not to.

[Nainoa]

Pick 3 WR to start:
Steve Smith (NYG) vs. SD
Hines Ward vs. Den
Sims-Walker vs. KC
Bowe vs, Jac
R. Moss vs. MIA

I'm starting two RBs (AD is on bye, Westbrook is coming off injury, and Buckhalter doesn't seem like a strong play against the steelers.

I'm going to have to say Steve Smith... SD's D might be opportunistic at times, but they're not a shut down force.

Simms Walker... Simply because he's playing the chefs.

Moss... I think NE is back on line and ready to roll in their best re-impression of an aged 2007.

[Nainoa]

Sorry I haven't been able to be in this thread more in the past week guys...

Lost my job and my wife's G-pa is on his death bed... So life has me pulled in a hundred different non-FF directions.

Hope everyone's team is holdin' down Think-Tank-Style!
:)

[DL Addict]

Sorry I haven't been able to be in this thread more in the past week guys...

Lost my job and my wife's G-pa is on his death bed... So life has me pulled in a hundred different non-FF directions.

Hope everyone's team is holdin' down Think-Tank-Style!
:)

Damn man. When it rains, it pours I guess. Sorry to hear about your losses...You should bounce back soon bro.

[Nainoa]

Damn man. When it rains, it pours I guess. Sorry to hear about your losses...You should bounce back soon bro.

"It ain't about how hard you hit... It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward... How much you can take and keep moving forward... That's how winnin' is done."
-Rocky Balboa

[BigAl33]

Need 2 Rbs

Pierre Thomas
Mike Bell
Clinton Portis
Jamaal Charles

Im thinkin Thomas and Charles? Then for my 3 Wrs I have Randy Moss, Vincent Jackson and Chad Ochocinco....should I sub one of these 3 for one of the rbs?

[blinkers88]

Charles or Crabtree? I've never seen Charles play... any Chiefs fans? lol

[dirtdickens]

You have to play Crabtree this week.

--------------------------------------------
My own question:
Team Defense- Broncos or Seahawks.
I picked up Seahawks because they play the Lions. But, looking at a few things I see that the Steelers have given up 14 sacks and allowed 5 DST scores in the last five games, making Denver a pretty nice play. I dont get special teams scores in this league, but the number of TDs and number of TOs is huge

[Nainoa]

Need 2 Rbs

Pierre Thomas
Mike Bell
Clinton Portis
Jamaal Charles

Im thinkin Thomas and Charles? Then for my 3 Wrs I have Randy Moss, Vincent Jackson and Chad Ochocinco....should I sub one of these 3 for one of the rbs?

Well I wouldn't go Charles until you see what Charles can do... The two safe and intelligent bets at this point are PT, and Portis.

WR wise...

I would stick... that's a studly Reciever Corp

[Nainoa]

You have to play Crabtree this week.

--------------------------------------------
My own question:
Team Defense- Broncos or Seahawks.
I picked up Seahawks because they play the Lions. But, looking at a few things I see that the Steelers have given up 14 sacks and allowed 5 DST scores in the last five games, making Denver a pretty nice play. I dont get special teams scores in this league, but the number of TDs and number of TOs is huge

As someone who started out hating and being low on Denver's D...

I have to say...

Denver is the better play here.

Seahicks are hurt here and there, and Detroit might get that offense healthy again.

[CYTX]

Sorry I haven't been able to be in this thread more in the past week guys...

Lost my job and my wife's G-pa is on his death bed... So life has me pulled in a hundred different non-FF directions.

Hope everyone's team is holdin' down Think-Tank-Style!
:)

Man that sucks. I hope everything turns around quick for you.

[dirtdickens]

Prayers man.

[jkeithc82]

Who to start for this week

Matt Schaub @ Indy
Ben Roeth @ Den
Jay Cutler v Ari

[saaltydog]

Who to start for this week

Matt Schaub @ Indy
Ben Roeth @ Den
Jay Cutler v Ari

Call me crazy but I like Cutler matched up with the Arizona D.

[jkeithc82]

Call me crazy but I like Cutler matched up with the Arizona D.

Yahoo has his "projected points" for the week higher than the other two as well.

For what those are worth.

[Nainoa]

Who to start for this week

Matt Schaub @ Indy
Ben Roeth @ Den
Jay Cutler v Ari

I think it comes down to Schaub or Cutler... And Schaub has more proven weapons.

[dirtdickens]

Yahoo has his "projected points" for the week higher than the other two as well.

For what those are worth.

That means it will be wrong.

[jkeithc82]

I think it comes down to Schaub or Cutler... And Schaub has more proven weapons.

I think so too, but Daniels going down worries me a bit for Schaub. If he had a week or so without him to adjust I wouldn't have a problem. Against Indy on the road, without Daniels, and with Slaton's situation being a concern, I do have some reservations about going with Schaub.

[saaltydog]

I think so too, but Daniels going down worries me a bit for Schaub. If he had a week or so without him to adjust I wouldn't have a problem. Against Indy on the road, without Daniels, and with Slaton's situation being a concern, I do have some reservations about going with Schaub.

That's why I am leaning toward Cutler. Daniels was a huge target for Schaub. Kind of like his ace in the hole. Without him I think it really changes that offense. Combine that with the fact that Slaton has been garbage all season and they are playing a tough team/D on the road. It does spell out trouble.

[GyM_RaT]

Does A Gonzalez have any value now??? OUt 2-3 weeks with another knee surgery, he would just be a gamble to start during the playoffs.

[Nainoa]

Does A Gonzalez have any value now??? OUt 2-3 weeks with another knee surgery, he would just be a gamble to start during the playoffs.

In a seasonal league... At this point No...

I'm sitting with him on my free IR spot in my keeper league.

[Nainoa]

I think so too, but Daniels going down worries me a bit for Schaub. If he had a week or so without him to adjust I wouldn't have a problem. Against Indy on the road, without Daniels, and with Slaton's situation being a concern, I do have some reservations about going with Schaub.

Long Term yes...

In the case of 1-2 games, I think it's an open door opportunity...

Opposing DC's won't know how the offense is going to change with that cog missing, and the total upside, plus talent level will more than likely find an opening in the short term.

Once opposing DC's have enough tape, they'll be able to adjust, and Houston's playoff value as a team starts to make a flushing sound.

[saaltydog]

Does A Gonzalez have any value now??? OUt 2-3 weeks with another knee surgery, he would just be a gamble to start during the playoffs.

If it's a redraft no. I am going to dump him this week. No sense in having him now.

What a bid disappointment I was planning on him being big for me this year.

[awahl63]

Non PPR

Pick 2:
WR

Earl Bennett
Nate Washington
Josh Morgan

Pick 1:
WR/RB

Slaton
Donald Brown
Josh Morgan

Ugh.

[kethnaab]

just thought I'd poke my head in here and pimp some of the guys I was pimping b4 that season that several had little to no faith in

QB - Schaub
RB - SJax, D-Will
WR - VJax, Ocho

:D

[jkeithc82]

Long Term yes...

In the case of 1-2 games, I think it's an open door opportunity...

Opposing DC's won't know how the offense is going to change with that cog missing, and the total upside, plus talent level will more than likely find an opening in the short term.

Once opposing DC's have enough tape, they'll be able to adjust, and Houston's playoff value as a team starts to make a flushing sound.

You're right, but Houston traditionally has difficulties in the red zone as it is. I'm afraid Schaub's going to try and force things to Johnson too much and Indy will key in on that.

Again, I'm not against starting Schaub for this week, I just want to give it some thought and get some opinions.

[Nainoa]

You're right, but Houston traditionally has difficulties in the red zone as it is. I'm afraid Schaub's going to try and force things to Johnson too much and Indy will key in on that.

Again, I'm not against starting Schaub for this week, I just want to give it some thought and get some opinions.

You make a good point...

I see your "Forcing it to Johnson"

And Raise you a "Indy's best DB's are hurt/mutilated/dinged/out, this week."

:D

[jkeithc82]

You make a good point...

I see your "Forcing it to Johnson"

And Raise you a "Indy's best DB's are hurt/mutilated/dinged/out, this week."

:D

I'll see that and raise you a "Houston will find a way to suck." :p

[Nainoa]

I'll see that and raise you a "Houston will find a way to suck." :p

LOL... every other Schaub Owner reading this thread is gonna need a prozac prescription to handle their mood swings induced post for post.

[jkeithc82]

LOL... every other Schaub Owner reading this thread is gonna need a prozac prescription to handle their mood swings induced post for post.

At least Sage isn't still a Texan. I'm fairly sure we can at least count on no helicopter incidents happening this weekend. :p

[PotKettleBlack]

I'm starting Schaub over Cutler. He's gonna crush. You'll see.

[dirtdickens]

just thought I'd poke my head in here and pimp some of the guys I was pimping b4 that season that several had little to no faith in

QB - Schaub
RB - SJax, D-Will
WR - VJax, Ocho

:D

VJax, you were right about that turd.

I think I should get credit for calling the following flames
Forte
Turner
DWill
Royal
Roy Williams
Jay Cutler

Celek and Welker were my pimped guys during the Summer.

[blahblahblahh]

quick question

maclin vs dallas or hester vs. arizona? leaning towards hester

[saaltydog]

quick question

maclin vs dallas or hester vs. arizona? leaning towards hester

Hester

[Mark004]

ppr, 1 points for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Tony Romo @ Philli
Donovan Mcnabb @ Dallas

Pick 2 wr, 2 rbs, 1 rb/wr flex
Frank Gore @ Tennessee
Chris Johnson @ 49ers
Steve Slaton @ Indie
Jonathan Stewart @ N.O
Devin Hester @ Ari
Mario Manningham @ SD
Vincent Jackson @ NYG
TJ Houshmanzadeh @ Det
Malcom Floyd @ NYG

[MoonMan12]

Okay RBs

Second RB Spot (First is Rice @ CIN):
Mendenhall @ DEN,
K. Smith @ SEA,
R. Williams @ NE

Leaning towards mendenhall, thoughts???

Second WR Spot (First is Fitzgerald @ CHI),
Sims-Walker @ KC
Welker @ MIA?

[awahl63]

ppr, 1 points for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Tony Romo @ Philli
Donovan Mcnabb @ Dallas

Pick 2 wr, 2 rbs, 1 rb/wr flex
Frank Gore @ Tennessee
Chris Johnson @ 49ers
Steve Slaton @ Indie
Jonathan Stewart @ N.O
Devin Hester @ Ari
Mario Manningham @ SD
Vincent Jackson @ NYG
TJ Houshmanzadeh @ Det
Malcom Floyd @ NYG

McNabb
Gore/CJ/J. Stew
VJax/Housh


Okay RBs

Second RB Spot (First is Rice @ CIN):
Mendenhall @ DEN,
K. Smith @ SEA,
R. Williams @ NE

Leaning towards mendenhall, thoughts???

Second WR Spot (First is Fitzgerald @ CHI),
Sims-Walker @ KC
Welker @ MIA?

I like Kevin Smith...is it PPR?

Start Welker

Now on to my dilemma


Non PPR

Pick 2:
WR

Earl Bennett
Nate Washington
Josh Morgan

Pick 1:
WR/RB

Slaton
Donald Brown
Josh Morgan

[awahl63]

Also, would you trade Slaton for Calvin Johnson (I receive CJ) in a non PPR league?

[DL Addict]

Heath Miller or Shockey?
Broncos D or Pats D?
Pick 2 of the 4...Santana Moss, Hester, Anquan, Mike Wallace

Shockey...Pats D...Wallace + Hester.

[DL Addict]

McNabb
Gore/CJ/J. Stew
VJax/Housh



I like Kevin Smith...is it PPR?

Start Welker

Now on to my dilemma


Non PPR

Pick 2:
WR

Earl Bennett
Nate Washington
Josh Morgan

Pick 1:
WR/RB

Slaton
Donald Brown
Josh Morgan

Bennett and Nate.
SLaton

and Yes I would make that trade if I had the opportunity.

[TopsecretWaffle]

im really deep at WR help me decide on who to start this week

Colston Vs Panthers
Welker @ MIA
M Austin @ Eagles
D Mason @ Cin
N Burleson Vs Det
Austin Collie Vs Hou

PPR league as of right now i have Colston Welker and Austin starting. any reason i should swap one out?

[Nainoa]

So my buddy who is having the best season of his career, and smelling his first championship run on the wind... had Owen Daniels go down...

I was sitting with Brent Celek, and Vernon Davis on my team...

I just traded him Celek for Vincent Jackson.

Best part about it, is in this dynasty league, I'm forced into a semi rebuilding year next year...

V-Jax is $8 (out of a $500 cap)

[Nainoa]

im really deep at WR help me decide on who to start this week

Colston Vs Panthers
Welker @ MIA
M Austin @ Eagles
D Mason @ Cin
N Burleson Vs Det
Austin Collie Vs Hou

PPR league as of right now i have Colston Welker and Austin starting. any reason i should swap one out?

I'd go Welker & Austin... With Colston a viable arguement against either of those two.

The only reason I don't knee jerk Colston in on that one is due to the logic of Conference game + Panther's strong D against the pass + NO's penchant for playing a spread offense.

[DL Addict]

So my buddy who is having the best season of his career, and smelling his first championship run on the wind... had Owen Daniels go down...

I was sitting with Brent Celek, and Vernon Davis on my team...

I just traded him Celek for Vincent Jackson.

Best part about it, is in this dynasty league, I'm forced into a semi rebuilding year next year...

V-Jax is $8 (out of a $500 cap)

GJDM. That should work out solid for you in years to come.

[Nainoa]

GJDM. That should work out solid for you in years to come.

Well V-Jax's contract ends at the end of next season... So I get a season and a half out of him.

I still can't believe I'm in 3rd place with this roster
(Updated)

Rivers
Ryan

Turner
D-will
Slaton
J-Stew
S. Greene

Andre Johnson
Calvin Johnson
V-Jax
S. Smith (NYG)
A-Gonz (On IR)
M. Austin

Vernon Davis

Stover

49er's D

I mean really... The team has more starters than Bench Players... Just can't seem to get it right.

[Amb11]

Should I take the chance on Slaton tommorow? Or put in J. Stewart? (I also have Moats on the bench, but figure JStew is a better start).

[jonnyshap]

jason witten or carnell williams in PPR which one should i go with?

[PotKettleBlack]

Should I take the chance on Slaton tommorow? Or put in J. Stewart? (I also have Moats on the bench, but figure JStew is a better start).
Moats is starting ahead of Slaton.

I'd rather start him than Stewart, but then Carolina's run-blocking is pretty damn good, so it really comes down to how many carries J-Stew is gonna get.

[miscreant5]

All right guys, who should I start between Rashard Mendenhall (at Denver), Julius Jones (he sucks, but he plays Detroit), and Jonathan Stewart (against Saints)?

[snwdevl10]

Hm got a couple tough calls this weekend...

At RB I can go with Julius Jones vs Det or Ryan Moats @ Ind. Jones has been really bad lately but was thinking maybe against Det he'd be alright.

At WR I need to choose two from: Roy Williams, Breaston, Sims-Walker, Crabtree and Antonio Gates (WR/TE spot). Right now I'm leaning towards Crabtree and Breaston but also thinking bout Sims Walker vs KC.

[DL Addict]

Hm got a couple tough calls this weekend...

At RB I can go with Julius Jones vs Det or Ryan Moats @ Ind. Jones has been really bad lately but was thinking maybe against Det he'd be alright.

At WR I need to choose two from: Roy Williams, Breaston, Sims-Walker, Crabtree and Antonio Gates (WR/TE spot). Right now I'm leaning towards Crabtree and Breaston but also thinking bout Sims Walker vs KC.

You have to go with Jones IMO...reports out of HOU say Moats will start, but Slaton will get his chance to earn his job back coming off the bench. Jones, at least, gets the majority of touches and he gets the Lions.

I would go SIms-Walker and Crabtree for the other spot. Boldin practiced, and all signs point to him playing normal...so Breaston might be fighting for looks. He has done a good job doing something with what opportunities he does get...but his ceiling is lower than Sims and Crabs.

[Nainoa]

Should I take the chance on Slaton tommorow? Or put in J. Stewart? (I also have Moats on the bench, but figure JStew is a better start).

As a slaton and stewart owner... I say J-Stew, until you get a game to see what is becoming of Slaton.

With Owens gone for the season they need slaton's pass catching more than ever... But how they measure that against the unnecessary prostate exam that is his fumbling... Can't say for sure.

[DL Addict]

All right guys, who should I start between Rashard Mendenhall (at Denver), Julius Jones (he sucks, but he plays Detroit), and Jonathan Stewart (against Saints)?

I would play the hot hand with JStew. Mendy hasn't really been getting the touches...and he faces a tough D. Jones...well, you said it. I like his matchup, but with JStew as an option, I'm not taking the chance on Jones. Out of your 3 guys...I'd go JStew>Mendy>Jones.

[Nainoa]

All right guys, who should I start between Rashard Mendenhall (at Denver), Julius Jones (he sucks, but he plays Detroit), and Jonathan Stewart (against Saints)?

Psychic left elbow says... J-Stew.

[Tech_N9ne]

Running Backs/Wide Receivers: (Pick 2 RB's, 2 WR's and one Flex position)

Ryan Grant
Ricky Williams
DeSean Jackson
Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin
Steve Slaton
Steve Smith(Car)
Nate Burleson
LaDainian Tomlinson


Tight Ends: (Pick one)
Jermey Shockey
Kellen Winslow

[Mark004]

Hey Nainoa, wanna give my roster a run through? You've helped me out every other week and I have faith in your picks.

[DL Addict]

Running Backs/Wide Receivers: (Pick 2 RB's, 2 WR's and one Flex position)

Ryan Grant
Ricky Williams
DeSean Jackson
Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin
Steve Slaton
Steve Smith(Car)
Nate Burleson
LaDainian Tomlinson


Tight Ends: (Pick one)
Jermey Shockey
Kellen Winslow



RB1 LT
RB2 Grant
WR1 V Jax
WR2 Miles Austin
W/R DeSean Jax

TE Shockey

[N.W.A]

Damn tough decision to make.

Rivers or Schuab?
A giants defense that has given up too many yards to QB's the last 3 games. OR
A colts defense that is missing 2 starters in their secondary. Starting corner I believe and the safety.

[Tech_N9ne]

Damn tough decision to make.

Rivers or Schuab?
A giants defense that has given up too many yards to QB's the last 3 games. OR
A colts defense that is missing 2 starters in their secondary. Starting corner I believe and the safety.
Rivers, Schaub can play but Rivers is quietly becoming a truely elite quarterback. Never sit an elite quarterback.

[blahblahblahh]

Alright I've asked for advice on my wr's earlier this week but it is just becoming a huge mess for me. Pick 3 to start please, and 4 of them are injured so I put their status next to them if they are hurt:

Megatron - Q
Maclin - P
Burleson
Hester - Q
Manningham - P
Floyd

Since I don't feel like waking up early on sunday to modify my roster, I basically have to solidify it tonight and hope that the guys I put in actually play lol. I was thinking johnson/burleson plus hester or maclin, but I can't decide between the two since hester seems more hurt but maclin won't get as many looks. Not ppr, 10yds/pt

[FAH_Q]

Nainoa what are your thoughts on D Jax?

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[Nainoa]

Nainoa what are your thoughts on D Jax?

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As in DeSean Jackson...

I worry that he's sniffing a Sophomore slump... Still playing on his Talent alone and making film study and building his reading and repore as a secondary thing.

This makes him Streaky no matter what or how you slice the match up...

He's just too feast or famine on his own recon to really call on a week by week basis.

[kethnaab]

All right guys, who should I start between Rashard Mendenhall (at Denver), Julius Jones (he sucks, but he plays Detroit), and Jonathan Stewart (against Saints)?

reading between the lines on the 13 different Steelers message boards (some ran by dudes with direct connection to the Steelers' practices) I have a feeling that Mendenhall will get a lot of work this week. Denver's front 7 are fast and small, and Mendenhall is as big as several of their LBs.



Rivers
Ryan

Turner
D-will
Slaton
J-Stew
S. Greene

Andre Johnson
Calvin Johnson
V-Jax
S. Smith (NYG)
A-Gonz (On IR)
M. Austin

Vernon Davis


http://www.stuartduncan.name/funny/spiderman_came.jpg


I mean really... The team has more starters than Bench Players... Just can't seem to get it right.

I hear ya. I'm 5-3 and in 3rd place with the following starting lineup:

QB (start 2) - Brees, Schaub, Ben
RB (start 2) - Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, MB3, Choice, Donald Brown, Shonn Greene
WR (start 2) - AJohn, CalJohn, Colston, Miles, Mario Mann, Hakeem, Mike Wallace
TE (start 1) - Witten, Shockey, Heath
DB (start 2) - Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter, Tyvon Branch
DL (start 2) - Suggs, Trent Cole
LB (start 3) - Justin Durant, Stephen Cooper, Curtis Lofton, Keith Ellison

now, despite being 5-3 and in 3rd place, I'm almost 200 points ahead of everybody else in scoring. I got absolutely annihilated one week when everybody (except Ben) laid turds all over the place and got beaten another week when Rice and Flash were on bye, and I had Miles Austin, all 31.1 points of him (pout...and that's NON-PPR!!) were sitting on the bench alongside Mike Wallace's 17 points. I also got goose eggs from 2 players who were appparently ruled out and didn't see the field (Same week that Donald Brown, my starter that week, went down after, what, 2 rushes?)

yeah.

embarrasment of riches =/= success unfortunately.

okay, Tech, you didn't post your scoring. I'll go with Ryan Grant and Steve Slaton. Slaton will have a bounceback game.
Your WRs + flex are easy. You take Miles, VJax and DJax. Dallas doesn't have enough speed at the corners to contain DJax, and Miles Austin is always open. VJax just happens to be one of the top 5 WRs in the game, so he's an auto-start. Take a look at his stats vs. Oakland the last 2 seasons if you doubt that one.


Running Backs/Wide Receivers: (Pick 2 RB's, 2 WR's and one Flex position)

Ryan Grant
Ricky Williams
DeSean Jackson
Vincent Jackson
Miles Austin
Steve Slaton
Steve Smith(Car)
Nate Burleson
LaDainian Tomlinson

Tight Ends: (Pick one)
Jermey Shockey
Kellen Winslow

Winslow is far too streaky. Go Shockey


Damn tough decision to make.

Rivers or Schuab?
A giants defense that has given up too many yards to QB's the last 3 games. OR
A colts defense that is missing 2 starters in their secondary. Starting corner I believe and the safety.

3 starters. Both of their starting QBs and Sanders. Schaub all the way.


Nainoa what are your thoughts on D Jax?

http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt225/CoolHandLuke_07/FeelsGoodMan.jpg

hahaha...I was wrong on Cedric Benson, we're all wrong on somebody.

[ejamiec]

Who to start

WR's
breaston, or johnny knox, both facing each other ARI vs CHI
also torry holt,

RB's. I have Jacobs, and Forte, Sproles,

DEF. INdy, or Chicago..

[FAH_Q]

hahaha...I was wrong on Cedric Benson, we're all wrong on somebody.[/QUOTE]

I was right about Cedric and Ray Rice, but i was SOOOOOOOOOO wrong on Eddie Royal.

[PotKettleBlack]

hahaha...I was wrong on Cedric Benson, we're all wrong on somebody.

Cutler and Forte have been proving on an almost weekly basis that I still bring the fail.

[kethnaab]

i was SOOOOOOOOOO wrong on Eddie Royal.

trust me man, you are NOT alone...I think EVERYBODY was wrong on Eddie Royal

[sircharles032]

trust me man, you are NOT alone...I think EVERYBODY was wrong on Eddie Royal

No kidding, I saw him (and TO) going as high as mid-3rd round in a couple of my 10 man PPR leagues

[Mark004]

ppr, 1 points for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Tony Romo @ Philli
Donovan Mcnabb @ Dallas

Pick 2 wr, 2 rbs, 1 rb/wr flex
Frank Gore @ Tennessee
Chris Johnson @ 49ers
Steve Slaton @ Indie
Jonathan Stewart @ N.O
Devin Hester @ Ari
Mario Manningham @ SD
Vincent Jackson @ NYG
TJ Houshmanzadeh @ Det
Malcom Floyd @ NYG

bumped for more opinions

[Harganoff]

Now that Westbrook is out, do I go with McCoy at RB over Mendenhall?

[c0ncept-2]

Who to start between:

Mike Sims-Walker (vs KC ---> 26th pass D)
NYG's Steve Smith (vs SD ---> 6/7th pass D)

Steve Smith is probably the better receiver and has better stats this year, but Sims-Walker has the ideal matchup. BTW I also have Jones-Drew starting against KC

[The Prime Nip]

Now that Westbrook is out, do I go with McCoy at RB over Mendenhall?

I say McCoy. Broncos run defense is solid. The Eagles always light up the Cowboys.

[monsterBEN]

Who to start between:

Mike Sims-Walker (vs KC ---> 26th pass D)
NYG's Steve Smith (vs SD ---> 6/7th pass D)

Steve Smith is probably the better receiver and has better stats this year, but Sims-Walker has the ideal matchup. BTW I also have Jones-Drew starting against KC

I think I'd go with Sims-Walker.. very close though..




Calvin Johnson @ Sea
Austin Collie vs Hou
Steve Smith (NYG) vs SD

Pick 2

[DL Addict]

I think I'd go with Sims-Walker.. very close though..




Calvin Johnson @ Sea
Austin Collie vs Hou
Steve Smith (NYG) vs SD

Pick 2

Smith and COllie. I'd give Megatron a week to get in a groove...especially with your other options.

[BrawnySwoleman]

Thinking ahead here. I have the Patriots D, which I was lucky to get off the WW. I drafted the Panthers D (since long gone), so I've been shuffling defenses all year and its worked pretty well. Should I keep the Patriots D all year, or add another one to give me another option?

Best Available:
Bills (playing Ten next week)
Colts (playing NE next week but probably better permanent choice) If I get the Colts its going to be awkward deciding which D to play next week.

I'll just drop Correll Buckhalter to pick one up.

[GPx]

Fuking "experts" said to bench Kurt Warner, thanks phaggots.

[The_Albatross]

Fuking "experts" said to bench Kurt Warner, thanks phaggots.

the bears defense is garbage, I watch them every week...they always give up points in the first quarter and always play from behind

[GPx]

fml, 4tds in the first half. :mad:

[blahblahblahh]

started greg olsen today, feels good man

started green bay defense also, feels bad man

[BrawnySwoleman]

I'm going to have to say Steve Smith... SD's D might be opportunistic at times, but they're not a shut down force.

Simms Walker... Simply because he's playing the chefs.

Moss... I think NE is back on line and ready to roll in their best re-impression of an aged 2007.

Wow turned out to be perfectly accurate. Unless Ward goes off for 4 TDs on MNF lol.

[kethnaab]

So Vernon Davis or Witten.

I haven't started Davis once this year and it's costed me. It's just really really hard to sit Witten. Should I do it this week?



Vernon Davis is the new Jason Witten.

hope you listened. :D

[saaltydog]

Who to start for this week

Matt Schaub @ Indy
Ben Roeth @ Den
Jay Cutler v Ari

So who did you wind up starting this week?

[dirtdickens]

Fuking "experts" said to bench Kurt Warner, thanks phaggots.

You guys need to stop listening to the experts from yahoo and ESPN etc. Those guys really dont know anything. You will honestly get some of the best free advice from this forum. I know in another thread here I posted the fantasy QB scoring stats that had the Bears giving up over 20 points a game to QBs.

[GyM_RaT]

You guys need to stop listening to the experts from yahoo and ESPN etc. Those guys really dont know anything. You will honestly get some of the best free advice from this forum. I know in another thread here I posted the fantasy QB scoring stats that had the Bears giving up over 20 points a game to QBs.

Check this out: http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/pointsagainst

[Nainoa]

hope you listened. :D

Yeah after trashing Cooley, And trading Celek for V-Jax... I'm riding the Vernon Davis train the rest of the way out.

[kethnaab]

how the bloody hell did you get VJax for Celek? WTF?

[Nainoa]

how the bloody hell did you get VJax for Celek? WTF?

Well the guy, had been riding Owen Daniels and having the best season of his rather dismall FF career.

Daniels went down and there was No One out there for a TE. (Guy was looking at starting Mercedes Lewis!)

It's a hot and heavy 3-way contest for first place.

He went looking for a trade... No one was offering anything...

His WR corp was:
Colston (High Salary)
Welker (Medium Salary)
V-Jax (Dirt Cheap)
H. Ward (Medium Salary)

So I offered him his pick of Vernon Davis or Brent Celek for V-Jax...

No one else offered anything...

So he thought it over, and couldn't stomach having that weak spot at TE, while he still had 3 other top end WR's.

He'd been burned in the past by Vernon Davis, and didn't want to go down that road again... So he chose Celek. (He's a big Philly fan.)

[dirtdickens]

Check this out: http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/pointsagainst

Different scoring format than I use but the Bears were still giving up almost double what the Colts were giving up. When that question was asked I saw an ESPN expert list Schaub as the better option because of opponent.

[kethnaab]

Well the guy, had been riding Owen Daniels and having the best season of his rather dismall FF career.

Daniels went down and there was No One out there for a TE. (Guy was looking at starting Mercedes Lewis!)

It's a hot and heavy 3-way contest for first place.

He went looking for a trade... No one was offering anything...

His WR corp was:
Colston (High Salary)
Welker (Medium Salary)
V-Jax (Dirt Cheap)
H. Ward (Medium Salary)

So I offered him his pick of Vernon Davis or Brent Celek for V-Jax...

No one else offered anything...

So he thought it over, and couldn't stomach having that weak spot at TE, while he still had 3 other top end WR's.

He'd been burned in the past by Vernon Davis, and didn't want to go down that road again... So he chose Celek. (He's a big Philly fan.)

...

that's just unbelievable!

[FAH_Q]

Well the guy, had been riding Owen Daniels and having the best season of his rather dismall FF career.

Daniels went down and there was No One out there for a TE. (Guy was looking at starting Mercedes Lewis!)

It's a hot and heavy 3-way contest for first place.

He went looking for a trade... No one was offering anything...

His WR corp was:
Colston (High Salary)
Welker (Medium Salary)
V-Jax (Dirt Cheap)
H. Ward (Medium Salary)

So I offered him his pick of Vernon Davis or Brent Celek for V-Jax...

No one else offered anything...

So he thought it over, and couldn't stomach having that weak spot at TE, while he still had 3 other top end WR's.

He'd been burned in the past by Vernon Davis, and didn't want to go down that road again... So he chose Celek. (He's a big Philly fan.)

That would piss me off if i was an opposing team in that league.

[The_Albatross]

...

[kethnaab]

PPR (.5 point per reception) 12 teams, standard scoring, QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, TE, D/ST, K

QB - A. Rodgers
RB - M . Jones-Drew, R. Grant, R. Mendenhall, F. Jones
WR - M. Austin, D. Jackson, S. Rice, D. Hester, S. Holmes
TE - B. Celek, V. Davis
D/ST - Saints, Broncos, Cardinals
K - Tynes

Should I trade Rodgers, Rice, and Jones for P. Manning and D. Bowe?

In terms of numbers Manning only scores about 1 more point per week in my league. However, as good as Rodgers has been, his o-line absolutely sucks. He has been sacked 37 times (leads the league), Manning has only been sacked 7 times.

no.

definitely not liking that trade for you. Bowe is an overrated talent on a horrible team that has no identity and no idea how they'll proceed from one week to the next. The coach is a flake. Sid Rice is Brett Favre's #1. Not a good trade at all for you unless you bring in a much higher caliber WR

[The_Albatross]

no.

definitely not liking that trade for you. Bowe is an overrated talent on a horrible team that has no identity and no idea how they'll proceed from one week to the next. The coach is a flake. Sid Rice is Brett Favre's #1. Not a good trade at all for you unless you bring in a much higher caliber WR

You really think sticking with Rodgers, with absolutely no worthwhile qb free agents available is a smart thing to do?

[kethnaab]

You really think sticking with Rodgers, with absolutely no worthwhile qb free agents available is a smart thing to do?

it's a 12-team league. I find it hard to believe that the WW is completely devoid of "just in cases"

who does the other team have at WR? What is the other team's roster?

[The_Albatross]

...

[dirtdickens]

his team:

QB - P. Manning, K. Warner
RB - L. Tomlinson, D. Sproles, B. Wells, D. McFadden
WR - S. Breaston, D. Bowe, J. Maclin, B. Berrian, K. Walter
TE - B. Scaife, V. Shiancoe
D/ST - Vikings, Niners


FA qbs = Delhomme, Henne, Collins, Anderson, Russell, Hill, Bulger

This is a prime example of having way too much junk on your roster and neglecting the positions that matter. 2 of everything that is worthless.

You should be able to get Warner off of him pretty easily. Great playoff schedule too.

[JC-orginalbdass]

I can't believe I'm even asking this, but....

Should I start Peyton Manning against NE (4th against the pass)

or Mark Sanchez comming off a bye against Jacksonville (26th against the pass)

I'm first in my division and tied for first overall at 6-3, but a couple 5-4 teams out there. This is a big week for me.

Thanks.

[OrdoAbchao]

I can't believe I'm even asking this, but....

Should I start Peyton Manning against NE (4th against the pass)

or Mark Sanchez comming off a bye against Jacksonville (26th against the pass)

I'm first in my division and tied for first overall at 6-3, but a couple 5-4 teams out there. This is a big week for me.

Thanks.

You know the answer. There is 1 QB right now that you could ask this question for and that would be Drew Brees. Sanchez is not even a question in this case.

[Nainoa]

Well... I just negotiated a trade to try to power up my team for the playoffs...

I give Slaton... I get A. Bradshaw, and the Steelers D.

Needed a more consistent D than the 9ers... And I already have Turner and D-will starting.

[JDuB128]

Who to start

Favre vs the lions

Mcnabb vs the chargers

[Nainoa]

Who to start

Favre vs the lions

Mcnabb vs the chargers

I say McNabb...

There's a greater chance of him getting in a shoot out and not leaning on a half wounded running game... Than Minn v Det... Where there's every chance that the Vikes will get up and just turn to grinding with the running game... Especially because this is the time of year to tune up your Running Game in a game against a weaker opponent.

[blahblahblahh]

A trade was just proposed to me and I'm definitely thinking of taking it:

I give up:

Forte
Olsen (TE)

I get:

Welker
Mike Bell
John Carlson

Essentially it is a trade of welker for forte, since I'm not sure if bell is going to ever start for me and I don't really need Carlson since there are better tight ends in the FA list, so I might reask the trade to just ditch carlson because I don't want to drop any of my other guys really.

Anyways, anyone think this is a good idea?

My lineup:

QB - Rivers, Palmer
WR - Megatron, Burleson, Hester, Manningham, Floyd (was going to drop this week for Coles), Maclin
RB - Forte, Grant, Ray Rice, Beanie Wells
TE - Olsen
K - Carney, DEF - Green Bay (dropping for Arizona)

His team:

QB - Flacco, Hasselbeck
WR - Roddy White, Welker, Steve Smith
, Walter, Mason
RB - Turner, Bell, Moats, Bradshaw, Charles
TE - Carlson
K - Mare, DEF - Atlanta

League is non-ppr standard scoring, 5 pts a td, 1 pt/10 yards with fractional scoring.

Should I take this? I'm leaning towards yes because I really dislike forte and I think olsen is good but I don't know if he's good enough to pass up welker and I feel like I can get a good enough waiver replacement. Also, since I don't particularly want to drop another player since it's a 2 for 3 trade, should I counter with just a dropped carlson or will carlson be a solid TE replacement?

Thanks for any input.

[The_Albatross]

This is a prime example of having way too much junk on your roster and neglecting the positions that matter. 2 of everything that is worthless.

You should be able to get Warner off of him pretty easily. Great playoff schedule too.

Repped for the mention of Warner's playoff schedule, I traded for him, gave up a 5th round pick.

[EatMarkers4lunch]

Who to start D. Bowe, Housh, or Calvin Johnson Fitz is my other WR

[Mistermidas]

Now usually I wouldnt ask these type questions, but seeing the game he had last week costed me a win because I didnt start him, I am. Warner vs. Seattle, or Rivers vs. Philly?

I started Rivers over Warner last week, and in my league Rivers (who still had a good game) had 19pts, and Warner had 30...and I lost by 9 points to go down to 5-4. So, Seattle has been kind of a pushover, but Rivers has been pretty consistent. Who do u guys think is the better start?

[dirtdickens]

Well... I just negotiated a trade to try to power up my team for the playoffs...

I give Slaton... I get A. Bradshaw, and the Steelers D.

Needed a more consistent D than the 9ers... And I already have Turner and D-will starting.

I dont usually respond to dynasty questions because I dont really know enough about it, but it looks like you are banking on BJacobs not being a part of the Giants next year. I know you dont play PPR so Slaton isnt ****, that trade could be huge next year. I am guessing Bradshaw had a high tag.

[Nainoa]

I dont usually respond to dynasty questions because I dont really know enough about it, but it looks like you are banking on BJacobs not being a part of the Giants next year. I know you dont play PPR so Slaton isnt ****, that trade could be huge next year. I am guessing Bradshaw had a high tag.

Actually Slaton had the higher keeper value, with 1 more year after this left on his contract. (I can only keep 6)

However, I'm up against a tough slag right now...

I'm in 3rd place... (The last spot that goes to the playoffs)

First place in the division gets a first round bye.

After losing my job, and now finding out that due to the way my last pay was filed by my old employer I won't see a penny of unemployment for 5 weeks...

(Though I do have a strong amount of savings.)

Since Slaton was playing the role of the #3... I basically made the trade to get the Steelers D, to try to juggernaut up my team. I basically twisted him into adding Bradshaw for an extra sweetener.

This makes my team look like this:
*=Player at the end of his contract with my team that I thus can't keep.

Rivers*

Turner*
D-Will

Andre Johnson* (Or Calvin Johnson*)
Vincent Jackson

Vernon Davis

Stover

Steelers

Bench
Matt Ryan
J-Stew
Shonn Greene
Larry Johnson
A. Bradshaw
Miles Austin
Calvin Johnson*
Steve Smith (NYG)
A-Gonz


*****

Then I'm currently working on a deal to trade Megatron for Ronnie Brown... But that probably won't go through.

*****

Tossing everything I've got to win this Championship this year and it's $300+ purse.

[Nainoa]

Now usually I wouldnt ask these type questions, but seeing the game he had last week costed me a win because I didnt start him, I am. Warner vs. Seattle, or Rivers vs. Philly?

I started Rivers over Warner last week, and in my league Rivers (who still had a good game) had 19pts, and Warner had 30...and I lost by 9 points to go down to 5-4. So, Seattle has been kind of a pushover, but Rivers has been pretty consistent. Who do u guys think is the better start?

I hate to say anytime that one should bench rivers... But I have to give the nod to Warner in this case.

[FAH_Q]

Seeking opinions on a possible trade. In my money league with fcb1012 it is 16 team league, 4 divisions and 6 total make playoffs (2 wildcards). Standard 10 pt rush/rec and PPR.

Our roster is

Rivers
Cedric Benson
Ray Rice
Jamal Charles
Steve Smith (Carolina)
Calvin Johnson
Earl Bennet
Justin Fargas
K
Def

Bench
Jerome Harrison
Maurice Morris
Bobby Wade
Mark Bradley
Bo Scaife

We are trying to trade Benson straight up for a WR. With Ray Rice and Jamal Charles our backfield is set in a ppr league and Benson does not get many receptions. Not to mention Fargas and Harrison could end up producing. What do you think about trading Benson for either: Jennings, Devin Hester, Derick Mason, Roddy White?

Not looking for any order, but is there one on that list who you don't think he is worth trading? We aren't sold on him throughout the entire year staying healthy and if he doens't score then that is a big loss of points.

[Nainoa]

Seeking opinions on a possible trade. In my money league with fcb1012 it is 16 team league, 4 divisions and 6 total make playoffs (2 wildcards). Standard 10 pt rush/rec and PPR.

Our roster is

Rivers
Cedric Benson
Ray Rice
Jamal Charles
Steve Smith (Carolina)
Calvin Johnson
Earl Bennet
Justin Fargas
K
Def

Bench
Jerome Harrison
Maurice Morris
Bobby Wade
Mark Bradley
Bo Scaife

We are trying to trade Benson straight up for a WR. With Ray Rice and Jamal Charles our backfield is set in a ppr league and Benson does not get many receptions. Not to mention Fargas and Harrison could end up producing. What do you think about trading Benson for either: Jennings, Devin Hester, Derick Mason, Roddy White?

Not looking for any order, but is there one on that list who you don't think he is worth trading? We aren't sold on him throughout the entire year staying healthy and if he doens't score then that is a big loss of points.


God I would sit on Benson... especially with a playoff run...

Cinci is going to have to play hard all the way through... Ced Ben is a solid play every week, and he's got a pretty decent playoff schedule (Other than MN on week 14.)

The only guy who's even possibly close to his value (When you factor in playoff schedule) is Roddy White.

[kethnaab]

i'm with Nainoa on this one man. Your RB depth scares me. I assume you start 2RB, 3WR, flex?

If so, I'd sit on Benson, PPR or not

[c0ncept-2]

Who should I start:

Addai (vs. NE)
Steven Jackson (vs. NO)

[kethnaab]

SJax all the way

[CYTX]

Romo/Miles Austin/Chris Wells


for


Manning/SJax


Austin and Wells can be kept as keepers, none of the rest can.