Fantasy Football Think Tank

[thefullmonte]

Okay... Yeah then that makes sense...

Side note: How the F do you pronounce your S/N?

[Jayarbie]

I'd want Tolbert all day long... Chicago and GB play tough against each other... GB is always "Pass First"

Tolbert is the Checkdown, Goal line and situation back for SD, going against a team that they should grind into the Earth early... And Norv Turner is teh kind of coach who turns to the punishing run game to grind out the clock in the 4th quarter.

IMO there are very few better flex options this week than Tolbert.

And Mathews ran hard last week while Tolbert made critical mistakes. I'm not 100% up on Tolbert right now. The organization would love for Mathews to sieze a larger role. That's what they drafted him for. Starks is quickly siezing the lead back role on GB to where it's hardly a RBBC anymore (Starks got like 2/3 of the snaps last week and has outplayed Grant all through camp and in both games). Obviously, GB is a pass first team with loads of weapons in front of Starks in the pass game, so his upside is certainly limited, but the feature back in an offense that good is still a nice asset. Plus, Chicago's run defense has been average at best so far this year. Like I said, it's close. Tolbert certainly isn't a bad play right now, but I'll take Starks by a hair.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Your team is looking very very solid. Starting Stafford, Rice, DMC, Tate, White, Britt, Smith this week? That's what I would do. Nice trade


I was actually thinking about starting Cam this week against jacksonville, thats a great matchup for him. Haven't come to a decision yet though

You think I should bench Welker for Tate?

[Fabs23]

I was actually thinking about starting Cam this week against jacksonville, thats a great matchup for him. Haven't come to a decision yet though

You think I should bench Welker for Tate?

not sure on the Newton thing, I'm afraid of him having his lack of experience game.

As far as Welker vs Tate I like Welker. I have both on one of my teams and its Welker all the way..esp against a Buffalo defense that is bound to give up a ton of yards.

[Jayarbie]

I was actually thinking about starting Cam this week against jacksonville, thats a great matchup for him. Haven't come to a decision yet though

You think I should bench Welker for Tate?

If PPR, definitely Welker without question. If not, then it's close, but I'd stick with Welker by a little.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Question...


Me and this other owner are basically entwined in eachother's backfields. He owns Foster & D-Will, I own Tate & Stewart. I own DMC, he owns Bush. So I own both his handcuffs, he owns 1 of mine.

I've been trying to work out a deal to bring Bush over, by offering him Stewart. He's losing confidence in the Panthers backfield by the minute though, and didn't start D-Will last week. He wants Tate for Bush. I argued that Tate is much more valuable than Bush at this point. So we were at a stand still


Then, I got an idea, and flipped the script on him.


I said "what about Tate for D-Will?" He said "Intriguing...I'll look into this. I like it."

So he seems open to the deal. It would give me the entire Panthers backfield. They haven't done shiit so far, but there's no way they are going to pay DeAngelo Williams $50 million and not use him.

Tate only has value to me as long as Foster is hurt, but if I owned the Panthers backfield I'm guaranteed to own the starting RB for the Panthers for the rest of the year. As good as Tate looks for Houston, both D-Will and Stewart are just as skilled, and just need to get the opportunities. The Panthers rushing attack has historically been lethal in recent seasons.

What do you think? Worth trading the most pivotal free agent pickup of the season for Deangelo Williams?

[RedBull1]

brahs need quick help por favor

I'm thinking of picking up Brandon Jacobs (RB NYG) and dropping Shonne Greene (RB NYJ). Greene hasn't done a FAURKING thing for me in the first two weeks. (neither has Chris Johnson :() Also Jacobs has a very favorable matchup against the 30th ranked PHI run defense. Opinions?

[ThaWorldIsYours]

brahs need quick help por favor

I'm thinking of picking up Brandon Jacobs (RB NYG) and dropping Shonne Greene (RB NYJ). Greene hasn't done a FAURKING thing for me in the first two weeks. (neither has Chris Johnson :() Also Jacobs has a very favorable matchup against the 30th ranked PHI run defense. Opinions?

Don't you have anyone else you can drop besides Greene? I'm assuming he's your starter, don't you have a shiitty bench guy you can drop?

[RedBull1]

Don't you have anyone else you can drop besides Greene? I'm assuming he's your starter, don't you have a shiitty bench guy you can drop?



Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Ryan
Chris Johnson
Shonn Greene
Daniel Thomas
Eric Decker
AJ Green
Santonio Holmes
Jordy Nelson
Greg Jennings
Antonio Gates
Fred Davis
Reggie Bush

Rob Bironas
Lions D


theres my roster brah

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Drop Fred Davis, you don't need 2 TE's, especially with Gates. Last year's 0 points was a fluke, freak game. You can pick up a TE for Gates' bye week when you come to it, TE's are a dime a dozen.

[RedBull1]

Drop Fred Davis, you don't need 2 TE's, especially with Gates. Last year's 0 points was a fluke, freak game. You can pick up a TE for Gates' bye week when you come to it, TE's are a dime a dozen.


yeah I guess you're right...I was holding him for the bye week only..but there's so many tight ends out there. thanks brah Reps

[dwcsoup22]

Should I make this trade in a ppr league?

Chris Johnson for either Larry Fitz or Vincent Jackson?

The problem is my RB's are a little thin compared to my receivers. Here is my team

Tony Romo
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
Brandon Marshall
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Jason Witten
Jahvid Best
Daniel Thomas
Joseph Addai
Sidney Rice
A.J. Green
Jay Cutler
Derrick Ward
C.J. Spiller

[sklz325]

Should I make this trade in a ppr league?

Chris Johnson for either Larry Fitz or Vincent Jackson?

The problem is my RB's are a little thin compared to my receivers. Here is my team

Tony Romo
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
Brandon Marshall
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Jason Witten
Jahvid Best
Daniel Thomas
Joseph Addai
Sidney Rice
A.J. Green
Jay Cutler
Derrick Ward
C.J. Spiller

i wouldn't. how many WRs do you start? you seem pretty set with roddy, wayne, and marshall. if you traded cj and best got injured, your RB situation wouldn't be too great...

[Fabs23]

Should I make this trade in a ppr league?

Chris Johnson for either Larry Fitz or Vincent Jackson?

The problem is my RB's are a little thin compared to my receivers. Here is my team

Tony Romo
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
Brandon Marshall
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Jason Witten
Jahvid Best
Daniel Thomas
Joseph Addai
Sidney Rice
A.J. Green
Jay Cutler
Derrick Ward
C.J. Spiller

No...dont do it. Get a lot more if you are going to give him up. Your RB's arent that thin...you got AP and Best in addtn. Thats a pretty good corps...but still I'd want a top 5 receiver to give up CJ

[dwcsoup22]

i wouldn't. how many WRs do you start? you seem pretty set with roddy, wayne, and marshall. if you traded cj and best got injured, your RB situation wouldn't be too great...
Repped

No...dont do it. Get a lot more if you are going to give him up. Your RB's arent that thin...you got AP and Best in addtn. Thats a pretty good corps...but still I'd want a top 5 receiver to give up CJ

And Repped!

Thanks was thinking the same thing if one of my RB's get hurt Im screwed with my bench being so weak. Will keep the best on paper RB tandum out there lol

[sklz325]

which side of this do you like better in a 0.5ppr league?

turner + steve smith (car)

OR

bradshaw + fitz

edit: this is a keeper auction league. steve smith went for $3 (i think) so he could be kept next year for $8.

[union44]

QB Matt Ryan, Atl QB
RB Frank Gore, SF RB
RB LeGarrette Blount, TB RB
FLEX Brandon Marshall, Mia WR
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR
WR Wes Welker, NE WR
TE Antonio Gates, SD TE
D/ST Lions D/ST
K Sebastian Janikowski, Oak K
Bench Arian Foster, Hou RB
Bench Anquan Boldin, Bal WR
Bench Joe Flacco, Bal QB
Bench Ben Tate, Hou RB
Bench Greg Olsen, Car TE

Who do I start this week? I'm 0-2 and really need to pick up a win here.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Question...


Me and this other owner are basically entwined in eachother's backfields. He owns Foster & D-Will, I own Tate & Stewart. I own DMC, he owns Bush. So I own both his handcuffs, he owns 1 of mine.

I've been trying to work out a deal to bring Bush over, by offering him Stewart. He's losing confidence in the Panthers backfield by the minute though, and didn't start D-Will last week. He wants Tate for Bush. I argued that Tate is much more valuable than Bush at this point. So we were at a stand still


Then, I got an idea, and flipped the script on him.


I said "what about Tate for D-Will?" He said "Intriguing...I'll look into this. I like it."

So he seems open to the deal. It would give me the entire Panthers backfield. They haven't done shiit so far, but there's no way they are going to pay DeAngelo Williams $50 million and not use him.

Tate only has value to me as long as Foster is hurt, but if I owned the Panthers backfield I'm guaranteed to own the starting RB for the Panthers for the rest of the year. As good as Tate looks for Houston, both D-Will and Stewart are just as skilled, and just need to get the opportunities. The Panthers rushing attack has historically been lethal in recent seasons.

What do you think? Worth trading the most pivotal free agent pickup of the season for Deangelo Williams?



Anybody?

[swagmeout]

Schaub @ NO or Hasselbeck vs DEN

person i'm playing against has Andre and I have Kenny Britt. Should that influence my decision?

thoughts?

[Nainoa]

Should I make this trade in a ppr league?

Chris Johnson for either Larry Fitz or Vincent Jackson?

The problem is my RB's are a little thin compared to my receivers. Here is my team

Tony Romo
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
Brandon Marshall
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Jason Witten
Jahvid Best
Daniel Thomas
Joseph Addai
Sidney Rice
A.J. Green
Jay Cutler
Derrick Ward
C.J. Spiller

I'd stick... CJ just isn't up to speed and that offense is still finding itself.


YOu have to keep in mind that CJ's strength is his physical ability... But his skill at learning and assimiliting new information is slightly more advanced than a bucket of hog slop.

As the season plays on the Coaching staff will adapt to the fact that he is intellectually challenged as an athlete and at the same time he'll pick bits and piece of it up.


IF you pull off a trade with this guy though... Try to get a sweetener thrown in for another one of his RB's.


And FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, drop Sidney Rice... He's hurt, underdeveloped, on a team with a putrid offense and a weak QB.

Somewhere out there you can find some infectous medical waste, or a back up kicker that would be an improvement to have that feculent sack of douche nuggets on your team.
:D

[Nainoa]

Anybody?

I thought we touched on this yesterday...

In this scenario your priority #1 is to get Bush... DMC has durability issues, and the Raiders Run game > Panthers run game.

DMC (Or Bush) alone is a #1 RB... D-will or J-stew are #2.

I would look for another sweetener that sends tate + sweetener to him for Bush and J-Stew.


When it comes to finding that sweetener, look for some kind of "Bad Bye week" on his roster, when he's missing a TE or his vaunted Defense (And then offer him a mid tier solution added to Tate.

[Criisp]

Early Doucet or David Nelson (Bills) as my 3rd receiver this week? I'm leaning towards Nelson since it will most likely be an airshow against the Pats. Standard head to head rules.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I thought we touched on this yesterday...

In this scenario your priority #1 is to get Bush... DMC has durability issues, and the Raiders Run game > Panthers run game.

DMC (Or Bush) alone is a #1 RB... D-will or J-stew are #2.

I would look for another sweetener that sends tate + sweetener to him for Bush and J-Stew.


When it comes to finding that sweetener, look for some kind of "Bad Bye week" on his roster, when he's missing a TE or his vaunted Defense (And then offer him a mid tier solution added to Tate.


You've got it confused, I already have J-Stew, he has D-Will.


I have:
DMC
Tate
J-Stew

He Has:
Foster
D-Will
Bush

So in my scenario instead of trading Tate for Bush, I'm trading Tate for D-Will, to complete the Panthers backfield for my team, under the assumption that they won't possibly abandon the run game the whole season and D-Will is due to start breaking out.


He won't give me Bush for J-Stew, but he'll give me Bush for Tate to protect his Arian Foster pick. I don't want to give up Tate for Bush. I don't really have any sweetener to throw in, he knows DMC is injury prone and he's valuable to me. I still maintain that Tate is more valuable than Bush, being that Foster is currently injured whereas DMC is currently healthy.

My team is on the left, his team is on the right


http://i52.tinypic.com/4ktm3s.jpg

[biggquis]

Shonn Greene @ Oak, or Daniel Thomas @ Cle? I currently have Thomas plugged in. I'm sure he can average more than 2 yards per touch.





On a related note... what the heck is wrong with Shonn Greene? Its tough because he's gonna be getting too many carries to drop, but he hasn't done crap so far. He's doing his best Adrian Peterson impression. The Chicago one...

[biggquis]

I just got offered Blount and Boldin for either Vjax or Mike Wallace... what do?

Current Backs: Daniel Thomas, LeSean McCoy, Shonn Greene, Tim Hightower

Current Receivers: Vjax, Wallace, Megatron, Julio Jones

I'm thinking its not worth the boom or bust of Blount for the consistent points either of those receivers will put up

[.aeterna]

I just got offered Blount and Boldin for either Vjax or Mike Wallace... what do?

Current Backs: Daniel Thomas, LeSean McCoy, Shonn Greene, Tim Hightower

Current Receivers: Vjax, Wallace, Megatron, Julio Jones

I'm thinking its not worth the boom or bust of Blount for the consistent points either of those receivers will put up
i think ur thinking correctly

edit: what is the general verdict on antonio gates for this week? time for him to actually play some football??

[biggquis]

You've got it confused, I already have J-Stew, he has D-Will.


I have:
DMC
Tate
J-Stew

He Has:
Foster
D-Will
Bush

So in my scenario instead of trading Tate for Bush, I'm trading Tate for D-Will, to complete the Panthers backfield for my team, under the assumption that they won't possibly abandon the run game the whole season and D-Will is due to start breaking out.


He won't give me Bush for J-Stew, but he'll give me Bush for Tate to protect his Arian Foster pick. I don't want to give up Tate for Bush. I don't really have any sweetener to throw in, he knows DMC is injury prone and he's valuable to me. I still maintain that Tate is more valuable than Bush, being that Foster is currently injured whereas DMC is currently healthy.

My team is on the left, his team is on the right


Honestly, I think you hold the best player in all of those transactions. Lets say that Foster is never quite right this whole season, which is a possibility. Sit on Tate in my opinion. Or force him to give you both Bush and D-Will for Tate and another player from your roster. Don't give him all the leverage. If he doesn't budge, fine, but he'll cave in two weeks after starting D-will in place of an injured Foster.

[biggquis]

i think ur thinking correctly

edit: what is the general verdict on antonio gates for this week? time for him to actually play some football??

I wouldn't worry about Gates... unless teams use the blueprint Belicheck laid out... jam him on the line, and take cheap shots on him when you can. I don't think that'll happen though. The days of Gates being the best fantasy TE are over, though. There's this stud over in New England that's gonna break the TE touchdown record this season...

[.aeterna]

I wouldn't worry about Gates... unless teams use the blueprint Belicheck laid out... jam him on the line, and take cheap shots on him when you can. I don't think that'll happen though. The days of Gates being the best fantasy TE are over, though. There's this stud over in New England that's gonna break the TE touchdown record this season...

lol which one :D

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Honestly, I think you hold the best player in all of those transactions. Lets say that Foster is never quite right this whole season, which is a possibility. Sit on Tate in my opinion. Or force him to give you both Bush and D-Will for Tate and another player from your roster. Don't give him all the leverage. If he doesn't budge, fine, but he'll cave in two weeks after starting D-will in place of an injured Foster.

I was thinking about offering him either Kenny Britt/Steve Smith plus Ben Tate, for Calvin Johnson and Michael Bush

Any insight on that? Should I just stand pat and hope Kenny & Steve keep playing awesome football the rest of the year? Which of those 2 guys do you think is most likely to fall off?


Again, for convenience, my roster is on the left and his roster is on the right:


http://i52.tinypic.com/4ktm3s.jpg

[Nainoa]

You've got it confused, I already have J-Stew, he has D-Will.


I have:
DMC
Tate
J-Stew

He Has:
Foster
D-Will
Bush

So in my scenario instead of trading Tate for Bush, I'm trading Tate for D-Will, to complete the Panthers backfield for my team, under the assumption that they won't possibly abandon the run game the whole season and D-Will is due to start breaking out.


He won't give me Bush for J-Stew, but he'll give me Bush for Tate to protect his Arian Foster pick. I don't want to give up Tate for Bush. I don't really have any sweetener to throw in, he knows DMC is injury prone and he's valuable to me. I still maintain that Tate is more valuable than Bush, being that Foster is currently injured whereas DMC is currently healthy.

My team is on the left, his team is on the right


http://i52.tinypic.com/4ktm3s.jpg

No I get you...

Bottom line...

If Foster Comes back and DMC goes down, you'll be back to where you are right now... Actually worse, because you'll be forced to treat one of the Panther's backs as a #1


Try doing something like Cam Newton and Tate for Dwill and Bush...

At the bottom line you have to get Bush... Top Priority...

BUT you can't give up Tate for him 1:1

[biggquis]

I was thinking about offering him either Kenny Britt/Steve Smith plus Ben Tate, for Calvin Johnson and Michael Bush

Any insight on that? Should I just stand pat and hope Kenny & Steve keep playing awesome football the rest of the year? Which of those 2 guys do you think is most likely to fall off?


I'd do that in a heartbeat. Name another receiver in the NFL than can gain only 30 yards, but 15 fantasy points? Calvin Johnson is the goal line back in Detroit. As far as which receiver will fall off, that depends on what you mean. Kenny Britt won't continue to score 20 points and multiple touchdowns every week. He got extremely lucky week 1, and Baltimore put too much emphasis on stopping CJ2K last weekend, if that's possible. We've seen the best of him this year already. Let's not forget the guy hasn't yet proven he can stay healthy. I'd keep Steve Smith, as Newton will force him the ball all year long. Eventually, that running game is gonna open up, and Smith will be running free downfield.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Name another receiver in the NFL than can gain only 30 yards, but 15 fantasy points? Calvin Johnson is the goal line back in Detroit. As far as which receiver will fall off, that depends on what you mean. Kenny Britt won't continue to score 20 points and multiple touchdowns every week. He got extremely lucky week 1, and Baltimore put too much emphasis on stopping CJ2K last weekend, if that's possible. We've seen the best of him this year already. Let's not forget the guy hasn't yet proven he can stay healthy. I'd keep Steve Smith, as Newton will force him the ball all year long. Eventually, that running game is gonna open up, and Smith will be running free downfield.


Yeah thats what I'm thinking, I just really think Kenny Britt is a freak and could put up a huge year, I would feel stupid if I traded him away and then the Panthers offense cooled off tremendously and Steve Smith started catching 3 balls for 40 yards a game again. Between Britt and Smith I firmly believe atleast 1 of them will end up a top 10 receiver this year, just need to figure out who.

[biggquis]

lol which one :D

This one...

http://thebostonjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/iamhi.jpg


Testosterone levels will be through the roof in Foxboro. Two thirds of the Gronkowski brothers will be playing together this year, and that makes for some serious, over the top meathead behavior. Expect to see the brothers comparing biceps on the sidelines, while comparing other body parts in the locker room….

But all kidding aside, playing with your brother on the same team in the NFL might be one of the coolest things around. Although there is no telling how long Dan will be on the Pats, this situation should bring out the best in Rob. But it also might create situations that make Pats fans bury their face in their hands due to excessive “meathead” activity. These two idiots will certainly be entertaining .

He looks like a Miscer

[Onita]

Do you guys have a minimum # of players you must keep at each position? I was just told (yes, during week 3) that we must keep a backup K or D on our roster. Nothing in the rules or at the draft regarding this. The only two people who don't have a backup K or D? The two people who called him out on his sh*t trade. yes mad

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Do you guys have a minimum # of players you must keep at each position? I was just told (yes, during week 3) that we must keep a backup K or D on our roster. Nothing in the rules or at the draft regarding this. The only two people who don't have a backup K or D? The two people who called him out on his sh*t trade. yes mad

Nope that sounds pretty bush league to me.

[biggquis]

Do you guys have a minimum # of players you must keep at each position? I was just told (yes, during week 3) that we must keep a backup K or D on our roster. Nothing in the rules or at the draft regarding this. The only two people who don't have a backup K or D? The two people who called him out on his sh*t trade. yes mad

If its not in the rules, or wasn't mentioned or enforced during the draft, when everyone was picking, tell him to go pull a David Carradine

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Name another receiver in the NFL than can gain only 30 yards, but 15 fantasy points? Calvin Johnson is the goal line back in Detroit. As far as which receiver will fall off, that depends on what you mean. Kenny Britt won't continue to score 20 points and multiple touchdowns every week. He got extremely lucky week 1, and Baltimore put too much emphasis on stopping CJ2K last weekend, if that's possible. We've seen the best of him this year already. Let's not forget the guy hasn't yet proven he can stay healthy. I'd keep Steve Smith, as Newton will force him the ball all year long. Eventually, that running game is gonna open up, and Smith will be running free downfield.

I offered him Britt & Tate for Megatron and Bush, he turned it down. He's a seahawks fan so he doesn't trust Hasselbeck in the slightest haha.

[ragecage11]

I have a deal set up to land Dez Bryant for Ben Tate. I'm pretty sure i'm going to pull the trigger, but would just like some reinsurance.

Standard 12 man league. I already have Peterson, Forte, Hillis, and Lynch at RB, and my WR are weak with Boldin, Manningham, and AJ Green.

I play the guy I'm trading with this week. Make the trade?

[biggquis]

I have a deal set up to land Dez Bryant for Ben Tate. I'm pretty sure i'm going to pull the trigger, but would just like some reinsurance.

Standard 12 man league. I already have Peterson, Forte, Hillis, and Lynch at RB, and my WR are weak with Boldin, Manningham, and AJ Green.

I play the guy I'm trading with this week. Make the trade?

Make the trade, but strike a deal for it to go through next week, so you don't get hosed by Tate's big game, and Dez sitting out

[jross2021]

Who should I start as my 3rd receiver..

Burress or McCluster?

Yes, McCluster is listed as a WR/RB lol, I feel like if he's getting carries as well, he'll easily get more points than Burress, right?

[chargerfn909]

alright guys 10 man ppr league

Current RB's on roster: McCluster, Forte, Tate, Reggie Bush, (J Chaarles)


I am going to be dropping JChaar and picking up another RB. Some notable names on the WW are:

Helu
Murray
Choice
J Stew
Graham
Lynch
Spiller
Addai


Any suggestions? I am trying to muster up a trade but my league isn't really trade happy and not sure I have enough ammo..

[Woogiefied]

How's this deal look ffb gurus. I give up romo, Tolbert and j Graham for brees and gates. My lineup would then look like this.

QB: Brees
Rb: cj2k
Rb: foster/Tate
Wr: Marshall
Wr: Steve smith
Flex: gates
Te: Fred Davis
K: kasay
Def: giants

[chargerfn909]

Brees alone may be worth it, but gates (IMO) is all but done... See if you can work something else out with him that will give you another flex option..

[biggquis]

Brees alone may be worth it, but gates (IMO) is all but done... See if you can work something else out with him that will give you another flex option..

Interesting... why do you think Gates is done? Foot problems catching up?

[Woogiefied]

Brees alone may be worth it, but gates (IMO) is all but done... See if you can work something else out with him that will give you another flex option..

You being a Charger fan really believe Gates is done? I know he had the horrible game last week but even bellicheck stated they planned on stopping him. He did have an 8 catch game the first week. Plus this guy has nothing else to trade for besides Nicks and I traded that to him before the season started. Doubt he'd trade him back to me. His wr are very thin.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Yeah I think calling Gates "done" is jumping the gun a little bit. Let's see how he does over the next 3-4 games before we all collectively mourn the death of a fantasy god

[Matt1744]

Which, if any, is the better deal for me?

1) I get Chris Johnson for Steven Jackson, Felix Jones, and Mario Manningham

2) I get Chris Johnson and Ryan Matthews for Steven Jackson, Felix Jones, Mario Manningham, and Sam Bradford

My roster is
QB - Stafford, Bradford (Could pick up Kolb or Grossman if the second deal when through)
RB - Jackson, Jones, Blount, Tolbert, Starks, Tate
WR - Andre Johnson, Roddy White, Santana Moss, Mario Manningham
TE - Hernandez, Graham

Thanks as always

[biggquis]

Which, if any, is the better deal for me?

1) I get Chris Johnson for Steven Jackson, Felix Jones, and Mario Manningham

2) I get Chris Johnson and Ryan Matthews for Steven Jackson, Felix Jones, Mario Manningham, and Sam Bradford

My roster is
QB - Stafford, Bradford (Could pick up Kolb or Grossman if the second deal when through)
RB - Jackson, Jones, Blount, Tolbert, Starks, Tate
WR - Andre Johnson, Roddy White, Santana Moss, Mario Manningham
TE - Hernandez, Graham

Thanks as always

Do the 2nd deal, and watch as CJ2K wildly appears for the rest of the season. Ryan Matthews also>>>>>>>>>>> Felix Jones

[Nainoa]

How's this deal look ffb gurus. I give up romo, Tolbert and j Graham for brees and gates. My lineup would then look like this.

QB: Brees
Rb: cj2k
Rb: foster/Tate
Wr: Marshall
Wr: Steve smith
Flex: gates
Te: Fred Davis
K: kasay
Def: giants

The only question is "How big of an upgrade is Brees over your current QB?

Because I think I would rather have Tolbert at Flex and gates at TE than Gates at Flex and Davis at TE...

[Woogiefied]

The only question is "How big of an upgrade is Brees over your current QB?

Because I think I would rather have Tolbert at Flex and gates at TE than Gates at Flex and Davis at TE...

I actually agree and really like my team. I just don't know how hurt Romo actually is and if he goes down there isn't anything on the ww to substitute him with. I have Tolbert in the flex now and he has been a pleasant surprise, but I also see Mathews getting better and could see Tolbert getting less work. Just trying to pre-empt Romos injury and Tolberts possible demotion.

[chargerfn909]

Yeah I think calling Gates "done" is jumping the gun a little bit. Let's see how he does over the next 3-4 games before we all collectively mourn the death of a fantasy god

He's been slowing down for over a year. Now with the chronic foot problems its only a matter of time. He can still use his body to post up and make some plays, but I don't think he will ever be his pure dominant self again..could be wrong, but that's my take

[ThaWorldIsYours]

He's been slowing down for over a year. Now with the chronic foot problems its only a matter of time. He can still use his body to post up and make some plays, but I don't think he will ever be his pure dominant self again..could be wrong, but that's my take


So you're saying I should try to trade Gates right now before his value plummets?


Should I offer Gates for Gronk?

[Fabs23]

Do you guys have a minimum # of players you must keep at each position? I was just told (yes, during week 3) that we must keep a backup K or D on our roster. Nothing in the rules or at the draft regarding this. The only two people who don't have a backup K or D? The two people who called him out on his sh*t trade. yes mad

Never heard of a rule like that...definately shwag league


I have a deal set up to land Dez Bryant for Ben Tate. I'm pretty sure i'm going to pull the trigger, but would just like some reinsurance.

Standard 12 man league. I already have Peterson, Forte, Hillis, and Lynch at RB, and my WR are weak with Boldin, Manningham, and AJ Green.

I play the guy I'm trading with this week. Make the trade?

make the trade, but dont make it until after this weekend...one more week of Tate information gathering is helpful in IMO


Who should I start as my 3rd receiver..

Burress or McCluster?

Yes, McCluster is listed as a WR/RB lol, I feel like if he's getting carries as well, he'll easily get more points than Burress, right?

I would roll McCluster...but roll him knowing he might have 60 yards total and no paydirt. KC is bad...real bad right now.


alright guys 10 man ppr league

Current RB's on roster: McCluster, Forte, Tate, Reggie Bush, (J Chaarles)


I am going to be dropping JChaar and picking up another RB. Some notable names on the WW are:

Helu
Murray
Choice
J Stew
Graham
Lynch
Spiller
Addai




Any suggestions? I am trying to muster up a trade but my league isn't really trade happy and not sure I have enough ammo..

To me its down to J Stew and Helu...I'm just not sure which one I would prefer. Helu had a nice showing last week thats for sure.


He's been slowing down for over a year. Now with the chronic foot problems its only a matter of time. He can still use his body to post up and make some plays, but I don't think he will ever be his pure dominant self again..could be wrong, but that's my take

I agree..he's aging, could trade bait for someone who still holds the name higher than the actual skill he still possesses.

[Nainoa]

I actually agree and really like my team. I just don't know how hurt Romo actually is and if he goes down there isn't anything on the ww to substitute him with. I have Tolbert in the flex now and he has been a pleasant surprise, but I also see Mathews getting better and could see Tolbert getting less work. Just trying to pre-empt Romos injury and Tolberts possible demotion.

Mathews is too injury prone to have him write off Tolbert... And Turner has tweaked that offense to both their strengths in a way that I don't think Tolbert ever gets demoted...

So that part of the equation isn't as much of a factor.


When it comes to Romo... Yeah I don't know how hurt he is or how he's going to play... Plus he has weapons down.

At the end of the day even if they're both healthy, Brees is a tier higher than Romo...

So I think you can be fine pulling the trigger... But you might hate yourself come fantasy playoff time!

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I just offered Gates for Gronk + Bradshaw

He said he's thinking about it


I think he'll do it.


Did I dun good?


EDIT:

Also, who to drop for Bradshaw out of these RB's:

Jonathan Stewart
Roy Helu
Pierre Thomas

[Fabs23]

I just offered Gates for Gronk + Bradshaw

He said he's thinking about it


I think he'll do it.


Did I dun good?

Id dump gates for Gronk straightup as I'm sure most would. No way this guy accepts it. No freakin way!

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Id dump gates for Gronk straightup as I'm sure most would. No way this guy accepts it. No freakin way!


Gates has been the premier TE in the NFL for like the past 6-7 years and has only had 1 bad game, his stock hasn't exactly plummeted. Most people still think of him as the best TE in the league.


And Gronk will have to share touches with Hernandez when he's healthy again.

[cudder]

my rbs, who i thought were one of the strengths of my team have fallen apart. f jones is awful, greene is terrible, addai play for the colts. only rice and b wells have produced. any ideas?

10 standard team non ppr

romo
rice
wells
greene: flex
megatron
wallace
harvin
v davis
chargers D
bryant

fitzpatrick
addai
f jones
mccluster
denarius moore
fred davis
lions D

[Nainoa]

my rbs, who i thought were one of the strengths of my team have fallen apart. f jones is awful, greene is terrible, addai play for the colts. only rice and b wells have produced. any ideas?

10 standard team non ppr

romo
rice
wells
greene: flex
megatron
wallace
harvin
v davis
chargers D
bryant

fitzpatrick
addai
f jones
mccluster
denarius moore
fred davis
lions D

Step 1: start Fitzpatrick until Romo is healthy
Step 2: Worship Pagan Gods, offering up Dark Sacrifices to have your RB corp produce
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Profit
:D


But seriously... Try to package out something like Addai and Fred Davis to someone who is either a colts homer or in need of a TE for a #2 RB without durability issues...

And/or maybe add Delone Carter.

Then
Step 1: start Fitzpatrick until Romo is healthy
Step 2: Worship Pagan Gods, offering up Dark Sacrifices to have your RB corp produce
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Profit
:D

[Yeahbudday]

Pick 2 receivers:

Robert Meachum vs Hou
Santana Moss @ Dal
Deion Branch @ Buff

[joebus36]

Matt Stafford owners, what kind of offers have you gotten for him. I'm putting him up on the block because a lot of people need QBs in my league.

[Nainoa]

Matt Stafford owners, what kind of offers have you gotten for him. I'm putting him up on the block because a lot of people need QBs in my league.

If I were you I'd look for something along the lines of a high end #2 RB or a Mid Range #1WR.

Minus his Durability questions Stafford is on his way to being a Mid to Low end #1 QB by this time next year.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Matt Stafford owners, what kind of offers have you gotten for him. I'm putting him up on the block because a lot of people need QBs in my league.

I haven't gotten any offers for him yet, but no QB's have been seriously injured enough to miss time yet. I tried to offer Cam Newton to the Romo owner but he wanted him for dirt cheap. And the Vick owner has Cutler as his backup and won't part with any significant pieces to get Stafford/Newton

[biggquis]

Kenny Britt acknowledged that the same hamstring injury that bothered him throughout training camp flared up again in Wednesday's practice.

Lol here we go...

[biggquis]

I just offered Gates for Gronk + Bradshaw

He said he's thinking about it


I think he'll do it.


Did I dun good?


EDIT:

Also, who to drop for Bradshaw out of these RB's:

Jonathan Stewart
Roy Helu
Pierre Thomas

Wow... you're a wizard if he accepts that trade

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I want to work Ben Tate into my starting lineup but I'm finding it difficult. I think I have 4 WR's who are must-start's right now. Steve Smith going up against a porous Jacksonville defense is currently my FLEX player. What would you guys do with this lineup?

http://i55.tinypic.com/oqg0op.jpg

[biggquis]

Gates has been the premier TE in the NFL for like the past 6-7 years and has only had 1 bad game, his stock hasn't exactly plummeted. Most people still think of him as the best TE in the league.


And Gronk will have to share touches with Hernandez when he's healthy again.

Which brings me to my next point... doesn't Hernandez always have some type of injury he's battling through? Even with Hernandez healthy, who's no. 1 in the land? That's right, my boy Rob. Hernandez doesn't take away from Gronkowski... in the same way that Jonathan Stewart didn't take away from DeAngelo Williams when they both rushed for over 1k. There's plenty balls to go around in New England, and Gronkowski is the perfect scrotum to house them.

Its officially time to pass the torch. Gronk Nation has arrived, and set its sights on taking over an endzone near you. The TE record for touchdowns in a season falls this year guys.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Which brings me to my next point... doesn't Hernandez always have some type of injury he's battling through? Even with Hernandez healthy, who's no. 1 in the land? That's right, my boy Rob. Hernandez doesn't take away from Gronkowski... in the same way that Jonathan Stewart didn't take away from DeAngelo Williams when they both rushed for over 1k. There's plenty balls to go around in New England, and Gronkowski is the perfect scrotum to house them.

Its officially time to pass the torch. Gronk Nation has arrived, and set its sights on taking over an endzone near you. The TE record for touchdowns in a season falls this year guys.


Well in that case I hope my trade offer gets accepted haha

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I want to work Ben Tate into my starting lineup but I'm finding it difficult. I think I have 4 WR's who are must-start's right now. Steve Smith going up against a porous Jacksonville defense is currently my FLEX player. What would you guys do with this lineup?

http://i55.tinypic.com/oqg0op.jpg


Haaaalpp.....


If that quote about Kenny Britt's hamstring is true, I guess I could bench him for Tate. But the Denver matchup is so joooocy for him... fawk

[biggquis]

Daniel Thomas vs. Cleveland, Julio Jones vs. Tampa, or Shonn Greene vs. Oak this weekend for my flex? Standard scoring, no ppr.

So far I've got Thomas in, but am considering giving Julio his first shot this year

[biggquis]

Haaaalpp.....


If that quote about Kenny Britt's hamstring is true, I guess I could bench him for Tate. But the Denver matchup is so joooocy for him... fawk

Yeah, just follow reports this week, and if he plays, throw him in your lineup

[dasfeuer]

So I'm getting tired with the Giants offense and how they use Bradshaw. I'm thinking of trying to upgrade to maybe CJ2k or another back by trading Bradshaw and a receiver (MSW, Jordy Nelson).

Trying to buy low on johnson, think its a good idea?

Oh and his recievers suck. Plaxico, Knox, Colston, Julio Jones

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Yeah, just follow reports this week, and if he plays, throw him in your lineup

So if Britt plays, I should keep Tate on the bench?


I wish I had 3 WR, 3 RB and a flex spot haha.

[biggquis]

The NFL has credited Hakeem Nicks with a 23-yard reception from Week 2 after it was initially ruled a pass interference penalty.
It's a 2.3-point swing in standard scoring leagues, bringing Nicks' Week 2 stat line up from three catches for 15 yards and a touchdown to four grabs for 38 yards and the score. Fantasy commissioners will have to dictate in their own leagues how to treat the situation

I hope this didn't cost anyone a win...

[biggquis]

So I'm getting tired with the Giants offense and how they use Bradshaw. I'm thinking of trying to upgrade to maybe CJ2k or another back by trading Bradshaw and a receiver (MSW, Jordy Nelson).

Trying to buy low on johnson, think its a good idea?

Oh and his recievers suck. Plaxico, Knox, Colston, Julio Jones

The trick to buying low is to not let on that you're buying low. Don't insult the guy by offering up MSW lol

[dasfeuer]

The trick to buying low is to not let on that you're buying low. Don't insult the guy by offering up MSW lol

Bradshaw + MSW/Jordy not just MSW. Seems enticing enough, a good rb plus one of those receivers who have dat dere potential

[biggquis]

Bradshaw + MSW/Jordy not just MSW. Seems enticing enough, a good rb plus one of those receivers who have dat dere potential

The worst he can say is no. I made the mistake of offering Shonn Green and Jimmy Graham for CJ2K. I don't think the guy will ever work a trade with me now, simply because he knows I tried to smack him in the face with a rotten fish

[Yeahbudday]

Pick 2 receivers:

Robert Meachum vs Hou
Santana Moss @ Dal
Deion Branch @ Buff


bump

[JMF7]

Cedric Benson for Reggie Wayne. The only reason why I'm hesitant toward accepting this is that benson is my no. 3 RB (Got no depth, plus I'm already stacked in terms of WR)

Thoughts on this?

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Cedric Benson for Reggie Wayne. The only reason why I'm hesitant toward accepting this is that benson is my no. 3 RB (Got no depth, plus I'm already stacked in terms of WR)

Thoughts on this?

Reggie has a pretty low floor and a pretty low ceiling right now being tied to Kerry Collins or whoever they put under center. I wouldn't do it.

[The_Albatross]

Bradshaw + MSW/Jordy not just MSW. Seems enticing enough, a good rb plus one of those receivers who have dat dere potential

Sims Walker? Potential? Right...

[biggquis]

bump

Branch and Moss

[JMF7]

Reggie has a pretty low floor and a pretty low ceiling right now being tied to Kerry Collins or whoever they put under center. I wouldn't do it.

But you could see it this way. Collins' options are limited to Wayne and Clark. He can't spread the offense like Manning.

Plus it's Cedric Benson!!!!

[ThaWorldIsYours]

But you could see it this way. Collins' options are limited to Wayne and Clark. He can't spread the offense like Manning.

Plus it's Cedric Benson!!!!


Benson is obviously a mediocre RB but he's guaranteed to get 300 carries and goal line work, so even if he only averages 3 yards per carry he'll have a pretty good season for a RB3

[ThaWorldIsYours]

http://i55.tinypic.com/oqg0op.jpg



Trade Ben Tate for DeAngelo Williams + Michael Bush?


If so, who to drop? Helu?

EDIT:

I know its a shiitload of Panthers, but the guy I'm trading with is the guy who owns Foster and thats what he's got to offer. He knows I want Bush but I won't give him Tate for Bush straight up.

I asked him for Fred Jackson + Michael Bush for Ben Tate + his choice of Pierre Thomas/Roy Helu/Jonathan Stewart but he declined.

[Jayarbie]

Cedric Benson for Reggie Wayne. The only reason why I'm hesitant toward accepting this is that benson is my no. 3 RB (Got no depth, plus I'm already stacked in terms of WR)

Thoughts on this?

These guys are comparable for their position, so it depends on positional needs on your team.

[Jayarbie]

http://i55.tinypic.com/oqg0op.jpg



Trade Ben Tate for DeAngelo Williams + Michael Bush?


If so, who to drop? Helu?

EDIT:

I know its a shiitload of Panthers, but the guy I'm trading with is the guy who owns Foster and thats what he's got to offer. He knows I want Bush but I won't give him Tate for Bush straight up.

I asked him for Fred Jackson + Michael Bush for Ben Tate + his choice of Pierre Thomas/Roy Helu/Jonathan Stewart but he declined.

There's no way you were going to steal Jackson in a deal where Tate is the centerpiece. He is an emerging stud for this year. Buffalo is one of the most improved teams. I know they have played a soft schedule so far (and they will probably get their asses handed to them this week), but nevertheless they have some real playmakers and growing confidence. They are a team to watch out for.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

There's no way you were going to steal Jackson in a deal where Tate is the centerpiece. He is an emerging stud for this year. Buffalo is one of the most improved teams. I know they have played a soft schedule so far (and they will probably get their asses handed to them this week), but nevertheless they have some real playmakers and growing confidence. They are a team to watch out for.

I agree, but it was worth a shot to atleast ask for him haha.


So what do you think about settling for DeAngelo Williams + Michael Bush for Tate? Or do you think I should just hold onto him? I'm not in any hurry, he isn't even starting for me right now, and DeAngelo Williams would not be starting for me either (at least until he starts playing like his usual self)

[swagmeout]

Schaub @ NO or Hasselbeck vs DEN

person i'm playing against has Andre and I have Kenny Britt. Should that influence my decision?

thoughts?

anyone?

[Fabs23]

I'm usually answering questions but I got one here on TE's. I got Owen Daniels.... Fred Davis is on waivers. no points per recep league, 8 teams. Right now I'm sitting back and watching one more week before making the switch. What are y'all's thoughts on one versus the other as an immediate switch or sitting back and waiting or switching at all. I'm going to win this weekend easily so its not a big deal if no one else submits a claim, week after is going to be a dogfight.


To the poster above me...go Schaub...NO's pass defense is soft...should be a trackmeet...take the over.

[monsterBEN]

I'm usually answering questions but I got one here on TE's. I got Owen Daniels.... Fred Davis is on waivers. no points per recep league, 8 teams. Right now I'm sitting back and watching one more week before making the switch. What are y'all's thoughts on one versus the other as an immediate switch or sitting back and waiting or switching at all. I'm going to win this weekend easily so its not a big deal if no one else submits a claim, week after is going to be a dogfight.


To the poster above me...go Schaub...NO's pass defense is soft...should be a trackmeet...take the over.

I'm a Skins fan, ppl in D.C. are talking about the skins eventually using Davis/Cooley like the Pats TEs (obviously less talented).

I think Davis will lose some touches once Chris Cooley is healthy and in shape. I'll take Daniels (clear TE1, better offense, better QB) over Davis splitting time with Cooley.

Also, FWIW 8 team league = stronger TE depth = less chance of ppl wasting a waiver pick on a backup TE.

[cellshot]

Should I bench McFadden and put in Mike Tolbert this week?

Reasons for this idea :

1)Tolbert is going against Kansas City, who are pretty much collapsing
2)McFadden is going against the Jets this weekend
3)My other RB position is Adrian Peterson (yes small league, 6 teams)

[monsterBEN]

Should I bench McFadden and put in Mike Tolbert this week?

Reasons for this idea :

1)Tolbert is going against Kansas City, who are pretty much collapsing
2)McFadden is going against the Jets this weekend
3)My other RB position is Adrian Peterson (yes small league, 6 teams)

Ya know? can't belive I'm saying this, but yes. I'd take Tolbert over McFadden.

Even when the Chargers go into "run the clock" mode. Matthews will sit and Tolbert will get the garbage time touches.

[mylesrugby7]

After reading some of the posts here about Ben Tate I'm thinking of picking him up just have to work out whether I drop a WR or a RB for him. Out of my current roster i'm thinking BenJarvus Ellis Green, Julio Jones or Brandon Lloyd.


Also have

Rb's
Jahvid Best
Steven Jackson
Dexter McCluster

Wr's
Brandon Marshall
Miles Austin
Jeremy Maclin
Mike Sims-Walker

Should I go with Green or one of my receivers and play Tate/McCluster at flex?

[The_Albatross]

Should I bench McFadden and put in Mike Tolbert this week?

Reasons for this idea :

1)Tolbert is going against Kansas City, who are pretty much collapsing
2)McFadden is going against the Jets this weekend
3)My other RB position is Adrian Peterson (yes small league, 6 teams)

tolbert might be injured, hurt. Sat out practice today

[cellshot]

Ya know? can't belive I'm saying this, but yes. I'd take Tolbert over McFadden.

Even when the Chargers go into "run the clock" mode. Matthews will sit and Tolbert will get the garbage time touches.

Yeah I figured game will prob be a blowout like KC's last two games, so Tolbert will get a lot of touches.


tolbert might be injured, hurt. Sat out practice today

Did not know this/10

Good heads up, I'll have to recheck his status come Saturday

[miketheblade]

Should I bench McFadden and put in Mike Tolbert this week?

Reasons for this idea :

1)Tolbert is going against Kansas City, who are pretty much collapsing
2)McFadden is going against the Jets this weekend
3)My other RB position is Adrian Peterson (yes small league, 6 teams)

tolbery lost his job with that fumble mathews is gonna carry the load

[cellshot]

tolbery lost his job with that fumble mathews is gonna carry the load

found matthews still as a free agent. picked him up and dropped tolbert

[koreanizm]

Chargers DST or Jets DST week 3?!

[Vigilante_Inc]

#1. I laugh at anyone who thinks Gates is Done. He had a bad game against a defense that set out to make sure they stopped him... and look what happened when they did that... V. Jax went ape ****. I dont think there are too many teams who'll go that route nor are there very many teams that could go that route if they wanted to. You have to understand what Gates represents. He is NOT a TE. He lines up in a TE position and he is labeled as a TE but he DOES NOT BLOCK. Which means he has a ton more time in routes which means he has more oppurtunities. Now since he is ligned up in the TE position he is almost always up against someone who is so much slower than him. He is almost always Phillip Rivers #1 or #2 target on almost every snap. If you want to try and stop that as a defense you will have to sacrifice so much in order to do that it's not worth it.

#2 Gronkowski (I think I spelled that right) Needs Hernandez more than he doesn't need him. Those two feed off of eachother because the whole idea of Double TE set's is to screw with zone assignments. Imagine how hard it would be to cover 2 really fast and big pass catchers. One of them streaks one of them gets the inside release into the void the other one created. How many long bombs have these two had combined. It is nearly impossible to keep track of both of them and wes welker. I would give more of an edge to Wes Welker and Branch getting extra targets and Ocho Cinco getting more redzone looks. I think Gronkowski needs his better half to be as productive as he has been... and he's set the ceiling pretty high so far

[T2TL]

I love the whole double TE sets. I'm a Jets fan so it sucks to see the Pats use it so effectively but it's a great formation. Not only do you have better blockers than WRs but you have players who can catch the ball and are great red zone threats. Watching what Brady does with Gronk and Hernandez is amazing, same with the Lions and I'm sure a few other teams. It's been a while since the TE's where utilized for more than blocking purposes. Gates was in as a blocking TE last game although that's not what he is usually in there for. SD took what they were given and they weren't given Gates open so they went other places. Gates is someone I'm targeting hard in my league as a buy low.

[biggquis]

#1. I laugh at anyone who thinks Gates is Done. He had a bad game against a defense that set out to make sure they stopped him... and look what happened when they did that... V. Jax went ape ****. I dont think there are too many teams who'll go that route nor are there very many teams that could go that route if they wanted to. You have to understand what Gates represents. He is NOT a TE. He lines up in a TE position and he is labeled as a TE but he DOES NOT BLOCK. Which means he has a ton more time in routes which means he has more oppurtunities. Now since he is ligned up in the TE position he is almost always up against someone who is so much slower than him. He is almost always Phillip Rivers #1 or #2 target on almost every snap. If you want to try and stop that as a defense you will have to sacrifice so much in order to do that it's not worth it.

#2 Gronkowski (I think I spelled that right) Needs Hernandez more than he doesn't need him. Those two feed off of eachother because the whole idea of Double TE set's is to screw with zone assignments. Imagine how hard it would be to cover 2 really fast and big pass catchers. One of them streaks one of them gets the inside release into the void the other one created. How many long bombs have these two had combined. It is nearly impossible to keep track of both of them and wes welker. I would give more of an edge to Wes Welker and Branch getting extra targets and Ocho Cinco getting more redzone looks. I think Gronkowski needs his better half to be as productive as he has been... and he's set the ceiling pretty high so far

I agree kinda. Gronk put up great numbers last year, when Hernandez was out last year vs. Pitt, Gronk had 3 tds in that game alone. Aaron Hernandez is a wide receiver with a big body. He's not physical whatsoever. They'll get either Ocho or the other Gronkowski to run those routes and take that space. Gronk will get his, and break the TE touchdown record this season

[biggquis]

anyone?

Play Schaub against that New Orleans secondary. I don't think it matters that your QB will be throwing to your opponents best receiver. Points are points in my opinion

[JakeDub]

Philip Rivers, SD QB
Darren McFadden, Oak RB
Peyton Hillis, Cle RB
Steve Johnson, Buf WR
Hakeem Nicks, NYG WR
Jeremy Maclin, Phi WR
Owen Daniels, Hou TE
Cardinals D/ST D/ST
Mason Crosby, GB K

This is my lineup for this week...I have Ahmad Bradshaw on the bench and am considering starting him over one of my receivers. That philly matchup is intriguing, should I or should I leave it how it is? PPR League btw

[Inspiration01]

Where do you think I can improve my team? I don't really have anyone on my bench with trade value. It's a 12 man league and most of them are committed. Any suggestions on who I should trade or I'm I ok as I am?


http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae46/AInjured/NFLfantasy.png

[blackberries]

Someone just dropped Julio Jones for Eric Decker, should I pick him up and drop Jacoby Ford with my 8th waiver priority? (out of 13 teams).

[waias15]

Who would you rather have on your bench, james starks in the time share with grant, or daniel thomas who looked good in his debut

[peteypistol]

fukkkkin lol at this. bengals always know how to pick them.....


A package containing 2.5 pounds of California marijuana was allegedly delivered to Jerome Simpson's home Tuesday, according to authorities.
Simpson and OL Anthony Collins were allegedly present when Aleen Smith, 27, accepted the package at Simpson's Kentucky home. Both Bengals were detained, but no one was arrested. During a search of the home, authorities found six more pounds of marijuana along with "packaging materials, scales and smoking devices." An update on possible prosecution is expected later today.


brb starting NFL reciever, still need to sell drugs

[Jayarbie]

Someone just dropped Julio Jones for Eric Decker, should I pick him up and drop Jacoby Ford with my 8th waiver priority? (out of 13 teams).

I would. Julio Jones is a freak.


Who would you rather have on your bench, james starks in the time share with grant, or daniel thomas who looked good in his debut

Can't you keep both? Neither of these guys should be dropped. If you have to choose one, I like Starks, but they're close and I'm sure you'll get opinions for Thomas as well.

[Jayarbie]

I agree, but it was worth a shot to atleast ask for him haha.


So what do you think about settling for DeAngelo Williams + Michael Bush for Tate? Or do you think I should just hold onto him? I'm not in any hurry, he isn't even starting for me right now, and DeAngelo Williams would not be starting for me either (at least until he starts playing like his usual self)

This is a tough call. I'm not usually pro-handcuff unless the backup is capable of putting up starter production if he is forced into the role, but Bush is one of the exceptions where that is the case. D Will will get carries, too, unless he gets hurt. He can't be as bad as he's looked in the first couple weeks. Especially if Newton keeps throwing up pinball numbers, eventually teams will key on their pass game and open up more opportunities for Williams and Stewart. OTOH, Tate is emerging as a MAJOR dark horse right now. Foster's hammy isn't getting any better, and with one or two more 100 yard games, I think there is a decent chance that Foster could end up on IR, in which case, Tate is a top 10 RB1, something neither Bush nor Williams has any chance at all to be. As long as they are not starters, I think I'd hold on to Tate for a bit and see how the Foster thing shakes out, but you can make good arguments either way.

[Onita]

Should I bench McFadden and put in Mike Tolbert this week?

Reasons for this idea :

1)Tolbert is going against Kansas City, who are pretty much collapsing
2)McFadden is going against the Jets this weekend
3)My other RB position is Adrian Peterson (yes small league, 6 teams)

I'm not sitting DMC until he gets hurt.

[waias15]

Can't you keep both? Neither of these guys should be dropped. If you have to choose one, I like Starks, but they're close and I'm sure you'll get opinions for Thomas as well.

Well my team is already pretty full up with RBs. maybe I should package some of these guys into an actual QB. Check out the team

No PPR
Flacco, Eli
Rice, MJD, Shonn Greene, James Starks, Tolbert
Santonio Holmes, Kenny Britt, Dez Bryant, Mike Sims Walker, McCluster
Jermichael Finley
Rackers
SD

[JakeDub]

Well my team is already pretty full up with RBs. maybe I should package some of these guys into an actual QB. Check out the team

No PPR
Flacco, Eli
Rice, MJD, Shonn Greene, James Starks, Tolbert
Santonio Holmes, Kenny Britt, Dez Bryant, Mike Sims Walker, McCluster
Jermichael Finley
Rackers
SD

daniel thomas > mccluster

[Nainoa]

Someone just dropped Julio Jones for Eric Decker, should I pick him up and drop Jacoby Ford with my 8th waiver priority? (out of 13 teams).

I would do that... I think Julio only develops more on a team that has a stronger passing offense than Oakland.

[waias15]

daniel thomas > mccluster

I know that, but i have enough RBs, while my WRs are all injury risks at the moment, and I can plug McCluster in at WR, so I figured that would fill a need more than picking up Thomas for my bench. If I did pick up Thomas, it would probably have to be for an RB

No PPR. start 2 RB 3 WR. No Flex

[thefullmonte]

I know that, but i have enough RBs, while my WRs are all injury risks at the moment, and I can plug McCluster in at WR, so I figured that would fill a need more than picking up Thomas for my bench. If I did pick up Thomas, it would probably have to be for an RB

No PPR. start 2 RB 3 WR. No Flex

Over-thinking. Drop McCluster

[waias15]

I actually looked into guys in my leauge who are light at RB, and one of them actually made a comment on Sunday about having to pick up somebody from my team since he has CJ2K, who hasnt done much yet, and Stephen Jackson who is hurt. I like my receivers, and wanted to set up a package for a better QB, but I keep getting constant news about quad bruises and hammy tightness (regarding my WRs) so its unsettling. Any packages I could make?

His team:
Big Ben
CJ2K, Stephen Jackson, Reggie Bush
Roddy White, VJax, Steve Smith(CAR), Hines Ward, Lee Evans, Deion Branch, Malcolm Floyd (HOLY WRS)
Gronkowski

[Nainoa]

Over-thinking. Drop McCluster

Yep... Daniel Thomas (Especially with Reggie already being Dinged) is looking at a stage set for him to develop into a #2 RB... McCluster... Even if you can put him in at WR, would still just be a WR on THE LEAST PASSING OFFENSE in the NFL... Who is then playing the scat back role in an RBBC... Which is more likely to just run the wheels off of Thomas Jones.

[waias15]

Yep... Daniel Thomas (Especially with Reggie already being Dinged) is looking at a stage set for him to develop into a #2 RB... McCluster... Even if you can put him in at WR, would still just be a WR on THE LEAST PASSING OFFENSE in the NFL... Who is then playing the scat back role in an RBBC... Which is more likely to just run the wheels off of Thomas Jones.

Alright, that makes a damn good point hah. I was looking to shore up my WR crop because of all the Questionables and Probables ive been seeing the past few weeks.

edit: I am going to have 6 RBs hah I need to do something with these guys..

[Nainoa]

Alright, that makes a damn good point hah. I was looking to shore up my WR crop because of all the Questionables and Probables ive been seeing the past few weeks.

edit: I am going to have 6 RBs hah I need to do something with these guys..

6 RB's is like the standard number I carry to make a deep playoff run.

RB's tend to wear down and get beat up by the end of the season, and if a good team locks up a playoff spot the RB position is the first one the coaches sit.


Because of the Lockout and the lack of offseason conditioning programs we're bound to see a lot more dings, knicks and tweaks in the first half of the season because most players just straight up aren't in football shape. So while we all need to be wise to shore up our line ups... You are pretty much guaranteed to "Think yourself stupid" if you go screaming into the night looking for desperation pick ups everytime one of your players shows up as "Probable" or complains about soreness in a press conference.

[nohcOR]

What are my Arian Foster brahs thinking about him? From what I am reading he will not be starting again this week.


Foster (hamstring) sounds like someone who will not be playing this week against New Orleans, the Houston Chronicle reports.

Anyone trying to sell low on him or should I hold out in hopes he will be coming back...

[Krunchy]

Hey guys. What do you think of this trade offer I received? The guy has sent mostly BS trade requests which I've denied instantly but this one has me intrigued. I have a pretty solid group of WR's (prior to the Miles Austin injury anyway) so I don't know if this trade really helps me. Is it worth giving up Johnson for a better defense, a potential breakout WR, and Lloyd? Thoughts?

12-team, PPR league. We start 2 RB, 3 WR, and a RB/WR.

Send Steve Johnson
Receive Brandon Lloyd
Receive Packers D/ST
Receive Denarius Moore

Starters:
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Frank Gore
RB Felix Jones
RB/WR Deion Branch
WR Andre Johnson
WR Steve Johnson
WR Eric Decker
TE Owen Daniels
D/ST Chargers D/ST
K Alex Henery

Bench:
WR Miles Austin
RB Mark Ingram
WR Lance Moore
RB Danny Woodhead
QB Kevin Kolb
RB Kendall Hunter
WR Devin Hester
TE Fred Davis

[waias15]

What are my Arian Foster brahs thinking about him? From what I am reading he will not be starting again this week.



Anyone trying to sell low on him or should I hold out in hopes he will be coming back...

Why would you want to sell him low? Its buy low, sell high - not the other way around.

[waias15]

Hey guys. What do you all think of this trade offer I received? The guy has sent mostly BS trade requests which I've denied instantly but this one has me intrigued. I have a pretty solid group of WR's (prior to the Miles Austin injury anyway) so I don't know if this trade really helps me. Is it worth giving up Johnson for a better defense, a potential breakout WR, and Lloyd? Thoughts?


I wouldnt do it - Chargers D isnt bad at all and will do well over the course of the season. Johnson is on a team that is playing well, and the Bills play from behind a lot of the time which means throwing the ball - also has a better QB.

[thefullmonte]

I actually looked into guys in my leauge who are light at RB, and one of them actually made a comment on Sunday about having to pick up somebody from my team since he has CJ2K, who hasnt done much yet, and Stephen Jackson who is hurt. I like my receivers, and wanted to set up a package for a better QB, but I keep getting constant news about quad bruises and hammy tightness (regarding my WRs) so its unsettling. Any packages I could make?

His team:
Big Ben
CJ2K, Stephen Jackson, Reggie Bush
Roddy White, VJax, Steve Smith(CAR), Hines Ward, Lee Evans, Deion Branch, Malcolm Floyd (HOLY WRS)
Gronkowski

If i was you...I'd be trying to package Tolbert with a WR for an upgrade at RB. You need to be thinking 2 for 1 at this time of year imo. Chris Johnson is an excellent buy low right now...and Brandon Marshalls trade value is still probably below what his real value is. I might also check what the price of VJax is

[thefullmonte]

6 RB's is like the standard number I carry to make a deep playoff run.

RB's tend to wear down and get beat up by the end of the season, and if a good team locks up a playoff spot the RB position is the first one the coaches sit.


Because of the Lockout and the lack of offseason conditioning programs we're bound to see a lot more dings, knicks and tweaks in the first half of the season because most players just straight up aren't in football shape. So while we all need to be wise to shore up our line ups... You are pretty much guaranteed to "Think yourself stupid" if you go screaming into the night looking for desperation pick ups everytime one of your players shows up as "Probable" or complains about soreness in a press conference.

This. I drafted 8 RBs this year...and caught a lot of **** for it too. But because of the trades I was able to pull off my team is now beastly good. Even when Itrade one...Im always looking to pick up another. I try to carry no less than 5 RB at all times

[thefullmonte]

Hey guys. What do you think of this trade offer I received? The guy has sent mostly BS trade requests which I've denied instantly but this one has me intrigued. I have a pretty solid group of WR's (prior to the Miles Austin injury anyway) so I don't know if this trade really helps me. Is it worth giving up Johnson for a better defense, a potential breakout WR, and Lloyd? Thoughts?

12-team, PPR league. We start 2 RB, 3 WR, and a RB/WR.

Send Steve Johnson
Receive Brandon Lloyd
Receive Packers D/ST
Receive Denarius Moore

Starters:
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Frank Gore
RB Felix Jones
RB/WR Deion Branch
WR Andre Johnson
WR Steve Johnson
WR Eric Decker
TE Owen Daniels
D/ST Chargers D/ST
K Alex Henery

Bench:
WR Miles Austin
RB Mark Ingram
WR Lance Moore
RB Danny Woodhead
QB Kevin Kolb
RB Kendall Hunter
WR Devin Hester
TE Fred Davis

Thats very...."maeh" imo. I think you need quality more than depth right now

[Woogiefied]

Hey guys. What do you think of this trade offer I received? The guy has sent mostly BS trade requests which I've denied instantly but this one has me intrigued. I have a pretty solid group of WR's (prior to the Miles Austin injury anyway) so I don't know if this trade really helps me. Is it worth giving up Johnson for a better defense, a potential breakout WR, and Lloyd? Thoughts?

12-team, PPR league. We start 2 RB, 3 WR, and a RB/WR.

Send Steve Johnson
Receive Brandon Lloyd
Receive Packers D/ST
Receive Denarius Moore

Starters:
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Frank Gore
RB Felix Jones
RB/WR Deion Branch
WR Andre Johnson
WR Steve Johnson
WR Eric Decker
TE Owen Daniels
D/ST Chargers D/ST
K Alex Henery

Bench:
WR Miles Austin
RB Mark Ingram
WR Lance Moore
RB Danny Woodhead
QB Kevin Kolb
RB Kendall Hunter
WR Devin Hester
TE Fred Davis

I would take that trade, Lloyd and Johnson pretty much cancel each other out and then you get two more players in the deal. From all the reports I've read Johnson has a pretty bad groin injury and said it hurts for him to even walk. Not sure how long he's gonna last with something like that, make the deal while you still can.


Stevie Johnson (groin) was held out of Bills practice Wednesday.
Get used to this. The contract-year wideout promises to play through his troublesome groin injury, but the Bills will have to rest him throughout the week. The Patriots have done an excellent job of keeping Johnson contained in their past three meetings, which is another thing owners must consider this week. Sep 21 - 2:13 PM
Source: Joe Buscaglia on Twitter


Steve Johnson said he can feel his groin injury while simply walking.
Johnson's condition appears to be worsening after last week's eight catches for 96 yards with a touchdown. "Last week, I didn't feel it when I walked, only when I got out on the field, but now it [the pain] is just there," he said. Even though Johnson said he doesn't expect to miss any games, it's another plus for hot waiver add David Nelson. Sep 20 - 11:05 AM
Source: Buffalo News

[nohcOR]

Why would you want to sell him low? Its buy low, sell high - not the other way around.

What I meant is anyone getting any offers on him. Trying to buy him low. My bad.

[PermaBulk42]

with aaron hernandez out 2-6 weeks, who do i pick up for week 3 and a better play for the entire season?

Scott Chandler vs NE
Lance Kendricks vs Ravens
Fred Davis vs Dallas
Brandon Pettigrew vs Minnesota

*i'm not releasing hernandez

[RAMBO316]

with aaron hernandez out 2-6 weeks, who do i pick up for week 3 and a better play for the entire season?

Scott Chandler vs NE
Lance Kendricks vs Ravens
Fred Davis vs Washington
Brandon Pettigrew vs Minnesota

*i'm not releasing hernandez

fred davis. even with cooley in the game grossman really likes davis. hes a solid pickup

[cudder]

Chris johnson for tolbert and s johnson? Fair deal? other players that I could trade include marshall, moss, beanie and matthews

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Another owner in my league expressed that he's less than happy with Rashard Mendenhall's performance so far (He has mendenhall, turner and Best and said he feels great about Turner & Best and not so much about Mendenhall). I think this is a perfect opportunity to buy low. I have 4 reciever's bordering on must-start, which one should I offer him?

Roddy White (probably out of the question for me)
Wes Welker
Steve Smith
Kenny Britt


which one of those 4 will have the least productive season from here on out?

League is .5 PPR


My current RB's are Ray Rice, DMC, Ben Tate, Pierre Thomas, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Helu

this would allow me to make Mendy my FLEX back and trade Ben Tate to Foster's owner for a receiver.

[MURedHawk235]

Start flacco or eli manning this week?

flacco @ StL
Manning @ Phi

[Jayarbie]

Another owner in my league expressed that he's less than happy with Rashard Mendenhall's performance so far (He has mendenhall, turner and Best and said he feels great about Turner & Best and not so much about Mendenhall). I think this is a perfect opportunity to buy low. I have 4 reciever's bordering on must-start, which one should I offer him?

Roddy White (probably out of the question for me)
Wes Welker
Steve Smith
Kenny Britt


which one of those 4 will have the least productive season from here on out?

League is .5 PPR


My current RB's are Ray Rice, DMC, Ben Tate, Pierre Thomas, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Helu

this would allow me to make Mendy my FLEX back and trade Ben Tate to Foster's owner for a receiver.

Britt. He has hamstring issues again. This has been chronic for him (no pun intended...).

[Nainoa]

Start flacco or eli manning this week?

flacco @ StL
Manning @ Phi

I gotta nod to flacco... That Philly passing D is strong.

[mlax99]

Another owner in my league expressed that he's less than happy with Rashard Mendenhall's performance so far (He has mendenhall, turner and Best and said he feels great about Turner & Best and not so much about Mendenhall). I think this is a perfect opportunity to buy low. I have 4 reciever's bordering on must-start, which one should I offer him?

Roddy White (probably out of the question for me)
Wes Welker
Steve Smith
Kenny Britt


which one of those 4 will have the least productive season from here on out?

League is .5 PPR


My current RB's are Ray Rice, DMC, Ben Tate, Pierre Thomas, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Helu

this would allow me to make Mendy my FLEX back and trade Ben Tate to Foster's owner for a receiver.

I would probably go with smith, cam newton is going to come back to earth eventually

[mlax99]

I gotta nod to flacco... That Philly passing D is strong.

this and all of eli's receivers are dropping like flies.

[cudder]

What I meant is anyone getting any offers on him. Trying to buy him low. My bad.

[QUOTE=Jayarbie;754926603]Britt. He has hamstring issues again. This has been chronic for him (no pun intended...).[/QUOTE

Agreed. Plus britt hasnt reallt had a season that was fantasy quality. He also has hasselbeck throwing to him.

[biggquis]

Start flacco or eli manning this week?

flacco @ StL
Manning @ Phi

Flacco. Most other weeks, I'd go Eli just because I think his upside is higher... but against Philly, Eli will be that guy who may give you negative points

[biggquis]

What do you guys think of Steven Jackson's value? What would be a fair offer to get him? TE1 + RB2?

[Nainoa]

with aaron hernandez out 2-6 weeks, who do i pick up for week 3 and a better play for the entire season?

Scott Chandler vs NE
Lance Kendricks vs Ravens
Fred Davis vs Dallas
Brandon Pettigrew vs Minnesota

*i'm not releasing hernandez

No Brainer... Davis

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Britt. He has hamstring issues again. This has been chronic for him (no pun intended...).

I thought it was his quad this time? Yahoo said he was experiencing tightness in his quad

[biggquis]

I thought it was his quad this time? Yahoo said he was experiencing tightness in his quad

Nope... the coach said that. Britt himself said it was his hammy

[biggquis]

What are your thoughts on the Tim Hightower/Roy Helu situation?

[was140]

Which QB to start

Fitzpatrick vs. NE

or

Schaub @NO

[its50]

1ppr, need 3 WRs

Calvin
Andre
Welker
Steve Smith (CAR)

imo, only decision is in between Welker and SS. Hernandez out so maybe more looks for Welker, but SS going against jags

[biggquis]

Which QB to start

Fitzpatrick vs. NE

or

Schaub @NO

Schaub... I think NE destroys Buffalo. Their D will gameplan for Fitz

[Fabs23]

1ppr, need 3 WRs

Calvin
Andre
Welker
Steve Smith (CAR)

imo, only decision is in between Welker and SS. Hernandez out so maybe more looks for Welker, but SS going against jags

I'd have Smith on the bench. How did you get Calvin AND AJ? Thats a nasty team.


Which QB to start

Fitzpatrick vs. NE

or

Schaub @NO

Gotta go with Fitz...its a great matchup for passing yards. Not to mention the Pats lost there starting safety.


What are your thoughts on the Tim Hightower/Roy Helu situation?

Helu has been impressive, but its Hightower's job to lose. If Hightower gets the fumbles like he did when he was in AZ it will make it more interesting and touches may go 50/50. But right now Helu would just be a handcuff on Hightower and I dont see the Washington running game valuable enough to waste two roster spots.

[biggquis]

1ppr, need 3 WRs

Calvin
Andre
Welker
Steve Smith (CAR)

imo, only decision is in between Welker and SS. Hernandez out so maybe more looks for Welker, but SS going against jags

I'd go Smith, Andre, and Calvin. Welker is good and everything, but those other guys have much higher upsides. Welker may get what... 8 catches for 90ish yards and a score best case. Those other guys can get you 7 catches for 150-200 yards and 2 tds any given sunday

[ThaWorldIsYours]

What are your thoughts on the Tim Hightower/Roy Helu situation?


I think whoever starts in Washington will be productive, I was high on Hightower and bought him for pretty cheap in my auction, ended up selling high on him after his great first 2 weeks. But I think he'll have a big year as long as he stays healthy/doesn't get benched for fumbling.

So with that said, I feel the same way about Helu, if he ends up starting at any point he will be a productive back, you have to decide how likely you think it is that Hightower will lose his job/get injured. I'm burning a roster spot on Helu right now just in case. I have 5 other RB's so he's not in danger of actually having to start for me at any point, just kind of using him as a lottery ticket.

[Fabs23]

I think whoever starts in Washington will be productive, I was high on Hightower and bought him for pretty cheap in my auction, ended up selling high on him after his great first 2 weeks. But I think he'll have a big year as long as he stays healthy/doesn't get benched for fumbling.

So with that said, I feel the same way about Helu, if he ends up starting at any point he will be a productive back, you have to decide how likely you think it is that Hightower will lose his job/get injured. I'm burning a roster spot on Helu right now just in case. I have 5 other RB's so he's not in danger of actually having to start for me at any point, just kind of using him as a lottery ticket.

if you have that many spots it doesnt hurt to burn one on him...in that case I would do the same. Thats a lot of RB's. You will hit one a few of them at one point or another in the season for sure.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I'd go Smith, Andre, and Calvin. Welker is good and everything, but those other guys have much higher upsides. Welker may get what... 8 catches for 90ish yards and a score best case. Those other guys can get you 7 catches for 150-200 yards and 2 tds any given sunday

I agree those guys have huge game potential, but so does Welker. His best case scenario is a lot better than 8-90-1TD. Week 1 he had 8-160-2TD for example. Obviously the 99 yard TD played a big role in that, but if you look at his track record, here are a few of his big games:

10-150-2TD
10-107-1TD
11-124-2TD
9-138-2TD
15-192-0TD
10-167-0TD
13-149-0TD
12-134-0TD
8-120-0TD

Those are just some of the examples of games he's had the past few years. If you are in a PPR league or .5 PPR league, he's always a threat to explode for like 10-15 catches

[its50]

I'd have Smith on the bench. How did you get Calvin AND AJ? Thats a nasty team.

drafted 10/10 so i went WR/WR...RBs are Felix (sucking ass), Best, and Forte lol. Not sure how Forte fell to my 3rd pick in a PPR league






I'd go Smith, Andre, and Calvin. Welker is good and everything, but those other guys have much higher upsides. Welker may get what... 8 catches for 90ish yards and a score best case. Those other guys can get you 7 catches for 150-200 yards and 2 tds any given sunday


I agree those guys have huge game potential, but so does Welker. His best case scenario is a lot better than 8-90-1TD. Week 1 he had 8-160-2TD for example. Obviously the 99 yard TD played a big role in that, but if you look at his track record, here are a few of his big games:

10-150-2TD
10-107-1TD
11-124-2TD
9-138-2TD
15-192-0TD
10-167-0TD
13-149-0TD
12-134-0TD
8-120-0TD

Those are just some of the examples of games he's had the past few years. If you are in a PPR league or .5 PPR league, he's always a threat to explode for like 10-15 catches

Yea, upsides for both...pretty hard decision atm


I'm thinking i can start any of the 2 with the Johnsons and do well

[ThaWorldIsYours]

if you have that many spots it doesnt hurt to burn one on him...in that case I would do the same. Thats a lot of RB's. You will hit one a few of them at one point or another in the season for sure.


Yeah I drafted Ray Rice/DMC/Hightower/Stewart/McGahee

dropped McGahee for Ben Tate before the season started when Arian aggrevated his injury

Then I dropped Mike Thomas for Roy Helu thinking I should own Hightower's handcuff just in case

Then I ended up trading Hightower & Harvin for Roddy White & Pierre Thomas

So my RB's right now stand at Ray Rice/DMC/Ben Tate/Pierre Thomas/Stewart/Helu

I think Pierre Thomas is pretty good for an RB4

[TheStigIsBig]

Just had a guy accept my last trade the other day, look at the team now LOLOL. I cant believe I managed to do this. It is a 10 man league. I drafted 9 RB's in teh draft for trade bait and it worked perfectly!!

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x408/TheStigIsBig2/9-22-20113-16-08PM.jpg

How is the squad brahs?

[biggquis]

I agree those guys have huge game potential, but so does Welker. His best case scenario is a lot better than 8-90-1TD. Week 1 he had 8-160-2TD for example. Obviously the 99 yard TD played a big role in that, but if you look at his track record, here are a few of his big games:

10-150-2TD
10-107-1TD
11-124-2TD
9-138-2TD
15-192-0TD
10-167-0TD
13-149-0TD
12-134-0TD
8-120-0TD

Those are just some of the examples of games he's had the past few years. If you are in a PPR league or .5 PPR league, he's always a threat to explode for like 10-15 catches

True. My reasoning is that... for Welker to have those huge days, he NEEDS all of those catches. Any of the other receivers can duplicate what Welker can do in a whole day on 2 plays. Not saying he's not good, but I don't fear Welker catching 50 yard passes if I'm the opposing defense

[Fabs23]

Just had a guy accept my last trade the other day, look at the team now LOLOL. I cant believe I managed to do this. It is a 10 man league. I drafted 9 RB's in teh draft for trade bait and it worked perfectly!!

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x408/TheStigIsBig2/9-22-20113-16-08PM.jpg

How is the squad brahs?

Lose Eli, not sure what to make of Foster right now...besides that looks solid if Nicks can get and stay healthy. Isnt Manningham hurt too now?


True. My reasoning is that... for Welker to have those huge days, he NEEDS all of those catches. Any of the other receivers can duplicate what Welker can do in a whole day on 2 plays. Not saying he's not good, but I don't fear Welker catching 50 yard passes if I'm the opposing defense

You can argue this one both ways...i get your reasoning there..I will say Smith is higher than Welker on all the depth charts I've seen for this week. I'm kind of beside myself that he has 4 top 10 receivers. There really is no wrong play here.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Just had a guy accept my last trade the other day, look at the team now LOLOL. I cant believe I managed to do this. It is a 10 man league. I drafted 9 RB's in teh draft for trade bait and it worked perfectly!!



How is the squad brahs?

First of all, you need to get Foster out of that lineup and put Starks in. Foster probably won't play on Sunday.



That said, only glaring hole I see is that WR2 spot. Even with manningham, you should be able to find something better than that.


I would pick 1 of your 3 stud RB's, and downgrade them slightly. For example, look at the rosters of the owners who have Ray Rice or LeSean McCoy, then try to get that owner to trade you Rice/McCoy + a receiver thats better than Manningham, for 1 of your stud RB's.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

You can argue this one both ways...i get your reasoning there..I will say Smith is higher than Welker on all the depth charts I've seen for this week. I'm kind of beside myself that he has 4 top 10 receivers. There really is no wrong play here.

Yeah I've been dealing with this same thing, I own Roddy White, Welker, Steve Smith & Kenny Britt. I can start all 4 of them but then I have to bench Ben Tate in my flex. so I've been kicking around different combinations of starters all week. Right now I've got Britt sitting because of the hammy/quad soreness or whatever it is. But if he plays, it will be hard to bench him when he's going against Denver w/ no Champ Bailey.

[Fabs23]

Yeah I've been dealing with this same thing, I own Roddy White, Welker, Steve Smith & Kenny Britt. I can start all 4 of them but then I have to bench Ben Tate in my flex. so I've been kicking around different combinations of starters all week. Right now I've got Britt sitting because of the hammy/quad soreness or whatever it is. But if he plays, it will be hard to bench him when he's going against Denver w/ no Champ Bailey.

Life is tough! Thats not a bad problem to have. I'm jealous. At least in this situation I can see how Britt and Smith were gambles at beginning of year...paid of nice for you. I didnt touch either in mine. That whole Smith/Newton thing to me seems like high risk still...esp for a QB who didnt spend much time under center in college. Its working right now...but I'm not convinced it will continue to. To me that has trade while its high written all over it. Not to mention he probably didnt see a playbook in the revamped offense until August. The Auburn offense was pretty simple with pictures and all that...Carolina has some complexities in it. I'm massively impressed with what he/they have done so far in the season though.

BTW if anyone wants a laugh google the comments Warren Moon made about Newton. I Kind of went on a rant with this one...sorry

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Life is tough! Thats not a bad problem to have. I'm jealous. At least in this situation I can see how Britt and Smith were gambles at beginning of year...paid of nice for you. I didnt touch either in mine. That whole Smith/Newton thing to me seems like high risk still...esp for a QB who didnt spend much time under center in college. Its working right now...but I'm not convinced it will continue to. To me that has trade while its high written all over it. Not to mention he probably didnt see a playbook in the revamped offense until August. The Auburn offense was pretty simple with pictures and all that...Carolina has some complexities in it. I'm massively impressed with what he/they have done so far in the season though.

BTW if anyone wants a laugh google the comments Warren Moon made about Newton. I Kind of went on a rant with this one...sorry


Smith was only $5 in my auction so he wasn't that big of a gamble. I paid $12 for Percy Harvin who isn't doing **** haha. Glad I traded him away. I think I paid $9 for Britt. $14 for 2 starting receivers? Not too shabby.

[Onita]

I'm thinking of trying to pick up Ray Rice (longshot, but why not)
My team
QB: Matt Ryan, Fitz
RB:AP, Mjd, Forte, Snelling, Choice
WR:Welker, Williams (TB), Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, A. Hernandez
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

QB: Brees, Cutler
RB: Rice, McGahee, D. Thomas, S. Jax, Matthews
WR:Witten, Marshall, Harvin, Moore, Colston, Garcon

Or maybe one of my bench players for Matthews? Maybe MJD + someone for Rice? Any input? I never trade, so I'm clueless.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I'm thinking of trying to pick up Ray Rice (longshot, but why not)
My team
QB: Matt Ryan, Fitz
RB:AP, Mjd, Forte, Snelling, Choice
WR:Welker, Williams (TB), Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, A. Hernandez
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

QB: Brees, Cutler
RB: Rice, McGahee, D. Thomas, S. Jax, Matthews
WR:Witten, Marshall, Harvin, Moore, Colston, Garcon

Or maybe one of my bench players for Matthews? Maybe MJD + someone for Rice? Any input? I never trade, so I'm clueless.


Offer him MJD + his choice of Williams/Johnson/Britt for Rice.

[Fabs23]

I'm thinking of trying to pick up Ray Rice (longshot, but why not)
My team
QB: Matt Ryan, Fitz
RB:AP, Mjd, Forte, Snelling, Choice
WR:Welker, Williams (TB), Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, A. Hernandez
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

QB: Brees, Cutler
RB: Rice, McGahee, D. Thomas, S. Jax, Matthews
WR:Witten, Marshall, Harvin, Moore, Colston, Garcon

Or maybe one of my bench players for Matthews? Maybe MJD + someone for Rice? Any input? I never trade, so I'm clueless.


Offer him MJD + his choice of Williams/Johnson/Britt for Rice.

I'd say this ^^.

I'd want to deal MJD if I had him...but durability would be my concern. Esp seeing Jax has that long haired QB bruh starting this weekend.

[Jayarbie]

I'd go Smith, Andre, and Calvin. Welker is good and everything, but those other guys have much higher upsides. Welker may get what... 8 catches for 90ish yards and a score best case. Those other guys can get you 7 catches for 150-200 yards and 2 tds any given sunday


True. My reasoning is that... for Welker to have those huge days, he NEEDS all of those catches. Any of the other receivers can duplicate what Welker can do in a whole day on 2 plays. Not saying he's not good, but I don't fear Welker catching 50 yard passes if I'm the opposing defense

The irony in these statements is that Welker actually HAS had a game with 150+ Yds and 2 TDs this year and actually HAS had a 50+ yard reception this year and neither Johnson has.

[Onita]

Offered Stevie + MJD. We'll see how it goes.

[Fabs23]

Offered Stevie + MJD. We'll see how it goes.

I can see him asking for AP for Rice.

[Onita]

I can see him asking for AP for Rice.

Meh, all they can do is counter or deny, no skin off my back. With my luck, Ravens would lock up playoffs and sit Rice for my playoffs anyways lol

[weezyjaunt]

Michael Silver of Yahoo is reporting Cedric Benson has been notified of a 3 game suspension - apparently appeal will be heard next Tuesday. If appeal is not successful, he will miss week 4, 5, 6 - vs Bills, Jags, Colts - solid matchups. I picked up Bernard Scott in my main league where I am hurting at RB. I am sure Brian Leonard will be in the mix, but I am assuming Scott will be used more prominently

As it stands now, Benson is supposed to be fine for this weekend.

[Fabs23]

Meh, all they can do is counter or deny, no skin off my back. With my luck, Ravens would lock up playoffs and sit Rice for my playoffs anyways lol

I try to avoid those guys...which is why I'll be screwed with Brady and Welker come the finals (assuming Im there)

[biggquis]

The irony in these statements is that Welker actually HAS had a game with 150+ Yds and 2 TDs this year and actually HAS had a 50+ yard reception this year and neither Johnson has.

There is no irony. How many 50+ yard catches does Welker have in his career?

Let me rephrase...

The other receivers have a higher probability of doing so than Wes Welker. Yes, anything can happen, and that's why they play the games... but Wes Welker has less of a chance to do so than the other guys.

Andy Farkas, Bobby Mitchel, Pat Studstill, Jerry Allen, Cliff Branch, Mike Quik, Tony Martin, Robert Brooks, Marc Boerigter, Andre Davis, Bernard Berrian, and Wes Welker have all caught 99 yard passes. It's not a sign of skill, but of extreme luck. Some random 5th receiver in the league can score two 99 yard touchdowns next Sunday for all we know.

With all that said, I think you give pretty solid football advice

[biggquis]

Michael Silver of Yahoo is reporting Cedric Benson has been notified of a 3 game suspension - apparently appeal will be heard next Tuesday. If appeal is not successful, he will miss week 4, 5, 6 - vs Bills, Jags, Colts - solid matchups. I picked up Bernard Scott in my main league where I am hurting at RB. I am sure Brian Leonard will be in the mix, but I am assuming Scott will be used more prominently

As it stands now, Benson is supposed to be fine for this weekend.

LMAO... some guy who is 0-2 in my league just traded AP for Mendenhall and Benson. Stupid trade anyway IMO, but this makes it that much worse

[Fabs23]

There is no irony. How many 50+ yard catches does Welker have in his career?

Let me rephrase...

The other receivers have a higher probability of doing so than Wes Welker. Yes, anything can happen, and that's why they play the games... but Wes Welker has less of a chance to do so than the other guys.

Andy Farkas, Bobby Mitchel, Pat Studstill, Jerry Allen, Cliff Branch, Mike Quik, Tony Martin, Robert Brooks, Marc Boerigter, Andre Davis, Bernard Berrian, and Wes Welker have all caught 99 yard passes. It's not a sign of skill, but of extreme luck. Some random 5th receiver in the league can score two 99 yard touchdowns next Sunday for all we know.

With all that said, I think you give pretty solid football advice

Welker isnt going to pop the top off a defense like those other guys will, (he might motorboat the hell out of it though) but he also isnt going to draw double coverage as often either. If it isnt a ppr league I can see rolling one of those other guys..but in a ppr league Welker is equal to...and Sun in Buffalo is going to be a trackmeet.

[Fabs23]

would you guys do this trade?

i give away ben tate
I get fred davis

my RBs are: peterson, mendenhall, beanie, tate, and michael bush

my TEs suck.. marcedes lewis and ed dickson

Nope...wouldnt do it. As someone reminded me last night when I was sizing up Davis...Cooley is going to comeback and steal a lot of his thunder.

[cbad7676]

J. Stewart of panthers and Ryan Grant of Packers were just dropped. debating if i should pickup.

My RB's:
MJD
Brandon Jacobs
shonne greene
benjarvis

[Fabs23]

LMAO... some guy who is 0-2 in my league just traded AP for Mendenhall and Benson. Stupid trade anyway IMO, but this makes it that much worse

Wait, so a Bengal is in trouble with rules. Never heard that before.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

would you guys do this trade?

i give away ben tate
I get fred davis

my RBs are: peterson, mendenhall, beanie, tate, and michael bush

my TEs suck.. marcedes lewis and ed dickson

You should be able to get more for Tate right now. Is this trade with the guy who owns Foster in your league?

[weezyjaunt]

LMAO... some guy who is 0-2 in my league just traded AP for Mendenhall and Benson. Stupid trade anyway IMO, but this makes it that much worse

lol yikes...that is a nice little stretch of schedule right there too. I have no idea if the appeal will work for Benson or not, I am not really sure how forgiving they are with that stuff. Apparently Marvin Lewis was quoted yesterday as saying they need to use Scott more even before the suspension news came out, although I think he has said stuff like that before

IMHO Benson's value is pretty much all based on volume - if he starts having 15 carry games on a regular basis his owners are going to be disappointed

[ThaWorldIsYours]

nope


I would see what you can get from the guy who owns Foster. He's probably sweating bullets right now with Foster about to miss his 2nd game in 3 weeks.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Anyone think Bernard Scott is worth dropping Jonathan Stewart/P. Thomas/Roy Helu for?

If he gets the same volume carries that Benson gets he could be a decent guy for the next 3 weeks, especially if he runs for a better YPC than benson does (not that hard to do)


Could maybe try and flip him to the Benson owner

[biggquis]

i donno man.. i read the skins are gonna run a 2 TE formation about 80% of their plays from now on.. and Davis seems to be the real deal.. put up 2 100 yard games back to back.. somethin cooley never did.. Grossman seems to latch onto davis..

Any other opinions on this?

I'd do it if I were you. How often would you start Tate anyway? Would you start him over Beanie consistently? If not, then make the trade. You'd be solidifying your lineup at the cost of a bench player. Or, of course, you could keep Tate and hope he has a huge game this weekend, and then deal him...

[weezyjaunt]

Anyone think Bernard Scott is worth dropping Jonathan Stewart/P. Thomas/Roy Helu for?

If he gets the same volume carries that Benson gets he could be a decent guy for the next 3 weeks, especially if he runs for a better YPC than benson does (not that hard to do)


Could maybe try and flip him to the Benson owner

FWIW, right from his twitter, he is a really good analyst -

@Sigmund Bloom
getting this one a lot. yes. RT @crazymoogle Would you drop Pierre Thomas for Bernard Scott?

IMHO if you aren't using pierre thomas anyways, I would do it - but if you are using him as a flex regularly I would be pretty hesitant. He could go off for 3 weeks, or there could be a muddled situation - or Benson's appeal could get suspension reduced. It's not a great offense in the first place, although Benson has pretty good stats thus far

I picked him up in all 3 of my leagues, but I dropped players that I didn't really like in all 3 situations

[TopsecretWaffle]

ok so i have GARBAGE QBs in one of my leagues.. Orton and freeman

which one should i drop for hasselbeck? j cambell available too but i think hasselbeck is a better pickup.

[Matt1744]

ok so i have GARBAGE QBs in one of my leagues.. Orton and freeman

which one should i drop for hasselbeck? j cambell available too but i think hasselbeck is a better pickup.

IMO Freeman should pull through and start producing, and has much more upside than Orton. So i would drop Orton

[dirtdickens]

I got a question for the board

ppr 12 team 1/20rush, 1/40pass and 1/25rec all tds/6
QB Ryan, Newton and Peyton Manning
RB Ray Rice
RB Matt Forte
WR VJax

WR BMarsh
TE Pettigrew
Flex Meachem
Flex RayJ Bush

Bench-JStarks, MThomas, Keiland Williams, Hines Ward, Evan Moore, Jerome Harrison


Some guy in my league wants WR help and the package I messaged him about was Cam Newton, BMarsh and either Mike Thomas or RayJ Bush for Adrian Peterson.

What do you guys think about this move? I dont really care for Cam, Bush/Thomas are getting fased out and BMarsh is a stud, but Henne scares the crap out of me.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

I got a question for the board

ppr 12 team 1/20rush, 1/40pass and 1/25rec all tds/6
QB Ryan, Newton and Peyton Manning
RB Ray Rice
RB Matt Forte
WR VJax

WR BMarsh
TE Pettigrew
Flex Meachem
Flex RayJ Bush

Bench-JStarks, MThomas, Keiland Williams, Hines Ward, Evan Moore, Jerome Harrison


Some guy in my league wants WR help and the package I messaged him about was Cam Newton, BMarsh and either Mike Thomas or RayJ Bush for Adrian Peterson.

What do you guys think about this move? I dont really care for Cam, Bush/Thomas are getting fased out and BMarsh is a stud, but Henne scares the crap out of me.



I would rather trade Matt Ryan than Cam Newton. But if you could get AP, I would strongly consider it. But if I'm choosing right now which QB I would want to start for the rest of the season, I'm taking Cam.

[Onita]

I would rather trade Matt Ryan than Cam Newton. But if you could get AP, I would strongly consider it. But if I'm choosing right now which QB I would want to start for the rest of the season, I'm taking Cam.

wut

[Fabs23]

might as well release Manning unless you have "dl" spots.

[weezyjaunt]

I got a question for the board

ppr 12 team 1/20rush, 1/40pass and 1/25rec all tds/6
QB Ryan, Newton and Peyton Manning
RB Ray Rice
RB Matt Forte
WR VJax

WR BMarsh
TE Pettigrew
Flex Meachem
Flex RayJ Bush

Bench-JStarks, MThomas, Keiland Williams, Hines Ward, Evan Moore, Jerome Harrison


Some guy in my league wants WR help and the package I messaged him about was Cam Newton, BMarsh and either Mike Thomas or RayJ Bush for Adrian Peterson.

What do you guys think about this move? I dont really care for Cam, Bush/Thomas are getting fased out and BMarsh is a stud, but Henne scares the crap out of me.

I would definitely do that if he will accept...classic depth for stud trade that I can never get anyone to accept. Any chance to get 3 stud RBs I would take it

[ThaWorldIsYours]

wut


I just don't like Matt Ryan as a fantasy QB. In real life, sure, he's a very good QB. He wins games. But...


- He's never put up great fantasy numbers before (Finished 17th among QB's in 09, 9th among QB's in 2010)
- He plays on a very good team that should be leading in the 2nd half for at least half of their games
- He has a great rushing attack behind him that will be deployed often in the 2nd half of games
- He has a low Yards-Per-Attempt average every season - meaning, he doesn't get the big play very often


Cam Newton is going to be playing from behind almost every game this season. That means lots and lots of passing attempts. He also has the added benefit of being a very good scrambler. He will probably get 8-10 rushing TD's this year. They've been deploying him at the goal line similar to what Denver did with Tebow last year. If you recall, Tim Tebow led all fantasy scorers the last 3 weeks of 2010. The 3 weeks he was the starting QB.


I like Newton's potential for a huge fantasy season a lot more than Matt Ryan's.


I wouldn't have said that at the start of the season, but after seeing Cam the first 2 weeks I feel confident in that statement.

[weezyjaunt]

FWIW id also prefer cam to ryan, although there is likely more consistency with ryan...dirt definitely knows what he is doing though so I am sure he has his reasons. All TDs being worth 6 makes cam's rushing TDs less of a big deal

[joebus36]

I just traded Matthew Stafford for Roddy White. My lineup is now

QB-Drew Brees
RB-Ray Rice
RB-Beanie Wells
WR-Mike Wallace
WR-Roddy White
Flex-Shonn Greene
TE- Aaron Hernandez (Hurt)
DEF-Ravens
K-Mason Crosby

Bench
Anquan Boldin
Mario Manningham
Joseph Addai
Willis McGahee
Antonio Brown
Ed Dickson

Now I have 3 questions:
1. Do I trade Beanie Wells and the Ravens defense for Michael Turner and the 49ers defense?
2. Do i drop Joseph Addai for Bernard Scott?
3. Should i work a 2 for 1 trade to get room for a back-up QB?

[biggquis]

I got a question for the board

ppr 12 team 1/20rush, 1/40pass and 1/25rec all tds/6
QB Ryan, Newton and Peyton Manning
RB Ray Rice
RB Matt Forte
WR VJax

WR BMarsh
TE Pettigrew
Flex Meachem
Flex RayJ Bush

Bench-JStarks, MThomas, Keiland Williams, Hines Ward, Evan Moore, Jerome Harrison


Some guy in my league wants WR help and the package I messaged him about was Cam Newton, BMarsh and either Mike Thomas or RayJ Bush for Adrian Peterson.

What do you guys think about this move? I dont really care for Cam, Bush/Thomas are getting fased out and BMarsh is a stud, but Henne scares the crap out of me.

Yeah... I'd rather have Cam than Matt Ryan. He's not gonna make it through the season IMO.

[Jayarbie]

I just traded Matthew Stafford for Roddy White. My lineup is now

QB-Drew Brees
RB-Ray Rice
RB-Beanie Wells
WR-Mike Wallace
WR-Roddy White
Flex-Shonn Greene
TE- Aaron Hernandez (Hurt)
DEF-Ravens
K-Mason Crosby

Bench
Anquan Boldin
Mario Manningham
Joseph Addai
Willis McGahee
Antonio Brown
Ed Dickson

Now I have 3 questions:
1. Do I trade Beanie Wells and the Ravens defense for Michael Turner and the 49ers defense?
2. Do i drop Joseph Addai for Bernard Scott?
3. Should i work a 2 for 1 trade to get room for a back-up QB?

1. Yes.
2. No.
3. Um, sure? Depends on what you can get. You can also just drop Brown for a QB, too, if you need one.

[cudder]

Pick a flex player: mathews, tolbert, beanie, marshall,s johnson, moss.
Stuck between mathews and marshall


Regarding bernard scott, should I drop mccluster n pick him up and ship him to benson's owner?

[Fabs23]

I just don't like Matt Ryan as a fantasy QB. In real life, sure, he's a very good QB. He wins games. But...


- He's never put up great fantasy numbers before (Finished 17th among QB's in 09, 9th among QB's in 2010)
- He plays on a very good team that should be leading in the 2nd half for at least half of their games
- He has a great rushing attack behind him that will be deployed often in the 2nd half of games
- He has a low Yards-Per-Attempt average every season - meaning, he doesn't get the big play very often


Cam Newton is going to be playing from behind almost every game this season. That means lots and lots of passing attempts. He also has the added benefit of being a very good scrambler. He will probably get 8-10 rushing TD's this year. They've been deploying him at the goal line similar to what Denver did with Tebow last year. If you recall, Tim Tebow led all fantasy scorers the last 3 weeks of 2010. The 3 weeks he was the starting QB.


I like Newton's potential for a huge fantasy season a lot more than Matt Ryan's.


I wouldn't have said that at the start of the season, but after seeing Cam the first 2 weeks I feel confident in that statement.

You just described Trent Dilfer 10 years ago. Matty Ice is turning into the new Dilfer.


Pick a flex player: mathews, tolbert, beanie, marshall,s johnson, moss.
Stuck between mathews and marshall

Do you get ppr? If so take Marshall or Johnson...if not take Matthews.

[biggquis]

You just described Trent Dilfer 10 years ago. Matty Ice is turning into the new Dilfer.


No no no.... you don't get to say that... I've been saying that since about 4 pages ago lol. But yeah, spot on

[Fabs23]

No no no.... you don't get to say that... I've been saying that since about 4 pages ago lol. But yeah, spot on

Haha, I missed those posts...I have been slacking in my thread participation the last couple days. Another Bengal is in trouble besides Cedric....had his house stocked like a Mexican pharmacy.

[blackberries]

Which side of this trade do you take? Non PPR, standard ESPN:

Ray rice for Miles Austin + Shonn Greene.

[Fabs23]

Which side of this trade do you take? Non PPR, standard ESPN:

Ray rice for Miles Austin + Shonn Greene.


Rice..no brainer to me

[biggquis]

Haha, I missed those posts...I have been slacking in my thread participation the last couple days. Another Bengal is in trouble besides Cedric....had his house stocked like a Mexican pharmacy.

Man... 8.5 lbs. What the heck is this guy thinking? I guess its better than fighting dogs, no?

[biggquis]

Give Jimmy Graham and Shonn Greene for James Starks?

[DannyStylez]

Give Jimmy Graham and Shonn Greene for James Starks?

Starks is not an upgrade over Greene, wouldn't do it.

[thefullmonte]

Starks is not an upgrade over Greene, wouldn't do it.

agree

[biggquis]

Starks is not an upgrade over Greene, wouldn't do it.


agree

Thanks

[biggquis]

Antonio Gates (foot) was held out of practice again on Thursday.
This is becoming a legitimate concern. Gates was obviously at less than full strength against the Patriots. A team insider told Pro Football Weekly last week that Gates can rule out being 100 percent healthy "for the rest of his career," as the injury has robbed him of the speed and athleticism needed as a vertical threat. Reliable beat writer Kevin Acee is giving Mike Tolbert (calf) a better chance than Gates to play this week.

Sell high gentlemen

[biggquis]

Starks is not an upgrade over Greene, wouldn't do it.

Is BenJarvus an upgrade over GReene? I'm thinking I should just chill and let the season unfold

[Onita]

Is CJ gonna be back this year, or stay sucky with the hold out curse?

[Fabs23]

Man... 8.5 lbs. What the heck is this guy thinking? I guess its better than fighting dogs, no?

Is that what it was? I started laughing when I saw a Bengal was in trouble with the law.


Give Jimmy Graham and Shonn Greene for James Starks?

I wouldnt do this either...they are kind of the same value straight up.


Is BenJarvus an upgrade over GReene? I'm thinking I should just chill and let the season unfold

I would say yes...but that damn NE backfield is brutal with the RBBC situation. But on goalline situations Green-Ellis will have his fair share of advantages. I dont think he will have anywhere close to a 1000 yards but 10-12 TD's is realistic I'd say. Shon Green will have half of that


Is CJ gonna be back this year, or stay sucky with the hold out curse?

He's gonna have a breakout game...just a matter of time. His game is all speed and timing the holes. I wouldnt be shocked if he has a big week this week.

[Daywa1ker]

just gave santonio holmes, matt schaub, and johnny knox for rashard mendenhall, standard espn scoring. did i dun good?

[Onita]

I'm thinking of trying to pick up Ray Rice (longshot, but why not)
My team
QB: Matt Ryan, Fitz
RB:AP, Mjd, Forte, Snelling, Choice
WR:Welker, Williams (TB), Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, A. Hernandez
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

QB: Brees, Cutler
RB: Rice, McGahee, D. Thomas, S. Jax, Matthews
WR:Witten, Marshall, Harvin, Moore, Colston, Garcon

Or maybe one of my bench players for Matthews? Maybe MJD + someone for Rice? Any input? I never trade, so I'm clueless.

Should i try to target CJ?

[UCLAbruin1]

Frank Gore vs. Cin or Tate vs. NO? 0.5 PPR

[Jayarbie]

Frank Gore vs. Cin or Tate vs. NO? 0.5 PPR

I think you gotta go with Gore. He's your star, he's healthy, and Cincy isn't exactly a tough matchup or anything after giving up 100 to Willis McGahee last week.

[Daywa1ker]

should I start mcgahee or mendenhall? just got mendenhall in trade, these are my rb's(starting turner and blount for sure, looking at flex spot):

turner
blount
mendenhall
mcgahee
d. thomas

standard espn scoring

[Jayarbie]

should I start mcgahee or mendenhall? just got mendenhall in trade, these are my rb's(starting turner and blount for sure, looking at flex spot):

turner
blount
mendenhall
mcgahee
d. thomas

standard espn scoring

Mendenhall. Start Mendenhall over McGahee in general, but especially in this extremely soft matchup against the Colts.

[ThaWorldIsYours]

Antonio Gates (foot) was held out of practice again on Thursday.
This is becoming a legitimate concern. Gates was obviously at less than full strength against the Patriots. A team insider told Pro Football Weekly last week that Gates can rule out being 100 percent healthy "for the rest of his career," as the injury has robbed him of the speed and athleticism needed as a vertical threat. Reliable beat writer Kevin Acee is giving Mike Tolbert (calf) a better chance than Gates to play this week.

Sell high gentlemen



Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I've been trying to get Gronk from this guy, he says he wants an elite receiver.


Should I offer him Roddy White for Mike Wallace and Gronk?

[Jayarbie]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I've been trying to get Gronk from this guy, he says he wants an elite receiver.


Should I offer him Roddy White for Mike Wallace and Gronk?

I wouldn't take that from the Wallace/Gronk side. Wallace is a beast in his own right.

[NORCALpump]

Recent moves:

Dropped New England's Def and added San Francisco's vs Cinci
Dropped Kendall Hunter and picked up Willis Mcgahee off waivers

I really feel good about the 9ers against Cinci this week. NE has done nothing for me in the defensive stat column so I thought i'd take a gamble and run with the 9ers for right now.

Mcgahee was sort of an impulse pick up but I really like what i've seen with him and I read somewhere that Moreno might lose his starting job even though I highly doubt it.

Thoughts? Did i dun goof?

[BENTLEY1]

Fred davis-dal.
Or
Vernon davis-cin.
Vernon has been my starter but the niners r suffering offensively. Fred has been on fire lately. ???

[Jayarbie]

Recent moves:

Dropped New England's Def and added San Francisco's vs Cinci
Dropped Kendall Hunter and picked up Willis Mcgahee off waivers

I really feel good about the 9ers against Cinci this week. NE has done nothing for me in the defensive stat column so I thought i'd take a gamble and run with the 9ers for right now.

Mcgahee was sort of an impulse pick up but I really like what i've seen with him and I read somewhere that Moreno might lose his starting job even though I highly doubt it.

Thoughts? Did i dun goof?

I don't know if I would have dropped NE for SF, but it's not a bad move, I guess. Someone will def pick up NE, so you're locked into playing waiver matchups on defense now. That's more effort than I like for a defense, but there are a lot of bad teams this year, so you should be able to work it to your advantage.

Kendall Hunter is worth nothing until Gore gets hurt, so there's nothing wrong with picking up McGahee.

[Jayarbie]

Fred davis-dal.
Or
Vernon davis-cin.
Vernon has been my starter but the niners r suffering offensively. Fred has been on fire lately. ???

Davis. Definitely Davis.

[BENTLEY1]

Davis. Definitely Davis.

Yeah, thats who i was thinkin too,lol.

[peteypistol]

Davis. Definitely Davis.

lol wut

[biggquis]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I've been trying to get Gronk from this guy, he says he wants an elite receiver.


Should I offer him Roddy White for Mike Wallace and Gronk?

Hell Yes!!!!

[koreanizm]

Tate or Britt for FLEX play?

[miketheblade]

Tate or Britt for FLEX play?

lol brb 6 man league

[DannyStylez]

halp, big trade going down.

Rivers + Nate Burleson for Bradford/Bradshaw/Roddy White.

I'm the one getting rivers, I needed a qb really bad (Bradford/Henne as starters in a 2qb league) I'm stocked pretty well at rb so bradshaw isn't a big loss.

[.aeterna]

Tate or Britt for FLEX play?
britt IMO

halp, big trade going down.

Rivers + Nate Burleson for Bradford/Bradshaw/Roddy White.

I'm the one getting rivers, I needed a qb really bad (Bradford/Henne as starters in a 2qb league) I'm stocked pretty well at rb so bradshaw isn't a big loss.

dooo it

[mjh22]

Hillis or Ben Tate for flex? Its a regular league. I already have mendenhall and MJD.

[JakeDub]

who would you rather have...brandon marshall or jeremy maclin?

[.aeterna]

Hillis or Ben Tate for flex? Its a regular league. I already have mendenhall and MJD.hillis...ofc

[Fabs23]

Hillis or Ben Tate for flex? Its a regular league. I already have mendenhall and MJD.

I think Tate is going to have a big game this weekend, so I say Tate...majority of people will probably say Hillis on this though. Cant go wrong starting either one.


who would you rather have...brandon marshall or jeremy maclin?

I'd take Marshall

[thefullmonte]

Love to get some more feedback here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138338873

[Fabs23]

Love to get some more feedback here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138338873

ill check it out in a little while

[Jayarbie]

halp, big trade going down.

Rivers + Nate Burleson for Bradford/Bradshaw/Roddy White.

I'm the one getting rivers, I needed a qb really bad (Bradford/Henne as starters in a 2qb league) I'm stocked pretty well at rb so bradshaw isn't a big loss.

In a 2qb league, I'd do it. Otherwise, too much to give up.

[Fabs23]

In a 2qb league, I'd do it. Otherwise, too much to give up.

mybe Im not understanding it right...but its a 2qb league and he is going from having bradford and henne to rivers and henne? not to mention giving up a better receiver? I dont know if I would do that in even in a start 2QB league.

[jlick]

I think Tate is going to have a big game this weekend, so I say Tate...majority of people will probably say Hillis on this though. Cant go wrong starting either one.
What makes you say that? NO has been great against the run with their improved D-line. Dont let Forte's big game last week fool you. Majority of his points came receptions, and that's only because he was left open in the flats all day. Tate is no where near the pass catching RB that forte is.

[Jayarbie]

mybe Im not understanding it right...but its a 2qb league and he is going from having bradford and henne to rivers and henne? not to mention giving up a better receiver? I dont know if I would do that in even in a start 2QB league.

In a 2qb league, it's all about the qbs since there is likely nothing on the waiver wire. Rivers is not only an elite QB, but he is also durable. In that format, that is a HUGE upgrade over Bradford. If/when Bradford gets hurt, you're going to be stuck with someone awful (or even his backup) as a replacement.

[Nainoa]

Fred davis-dal.
Or
Vernon davis-cin.
Vernon has been my starter but the niners r suffering offensively. Fred has been on fire lately. ???

My Gut tells me Fred Davis... With Cooley's injury I think this is the year he turns it on and takes over the starting job.


One of the things to keep in mind with Cincy, is that the Niners shipped 3 players over to them in the pre season... two of which were disgruntled. Dollars to doughnuts that Cincy is sitting there with the Niners playbook in hand!
;)

[Elman811]

Who would yall start
schaub vs nola or fitz vs NE

[Nainoa]

halp, big trade going down.

Rivers + Nate Burleson for Bradford/Bradshaw/Roddy White.

I'm the one getting rivers, I needed a qb really bad (Bradford/Henne as starters in a 2qb league) I'm stocked pretty well at rb so bradshaw isn't a big loss.

Is it PPR?

What does the rest of your Reciever corp look like...

If it's PPR going from Roddy White to straight up Burleson, is a 3 tier downgrade... While Bradford to Rivers is a 2 tier upgrade.


If the rest of your WR corp is solid, and it's not PPR then I say do it.

If it is PPR and your WR corp is sketchy... Then I say hold.

[Fabs23]

What makes you say that? NO has been great against the run with their improved D-line. Dont let Forte's big game last week fool you. Majority of his points came receptions, and that's only because he was left open in the flats all day. Tate is no where near the pass catching RB that forte is.

Like I said majority of people are going to lean Hillis who is going against a Miami defense giving up 4.2 yds/a. NO has been good not great against the run they are giving up 4.2 yds a carry as well. that ranks right in the middle of the league for both defenses these guys are playing. Of course Forte didnt have a big rushing game, Chicago was airing it out. In two games the Saints have had close to the fewest rushing attempts against them at 40 I believe...Miami is around 60. its a small sample to base it on. I'm going with Tate having a break out game, UNLESS Houston goes down by more than 3 scores in the first half or two in the second half. Houston is going to need to control the clock. keep the ball away from Brees as much as possible with ground and pound, and setup moving the box down for AJ popping the top off.

Cleveland on the other hand isnt going to be too concerned with Henne doing a Dan Marino impression. Clock control will be less a factor, and IMO the Miami RUN defense is going to surprise people as being stronger then expected ...just like the Miami pass defense is as soft as they come.

[Fabs23]

Who would yall start
schaub vs nola or fitz vs NE

Fitz against a cupcake pass defense...not to mention missing a starting safety.

[chargerfn909]

Alright so a dude just put Arian Foster on the block in my league. He's askin for WR or QB. I have: VJ/DJax/Ocho/Decker/Plax

I think I am going to offer him DJax for Foster, thoughts? Djax is good for the home run, but I have VJ and Decker or Plax (This is a PPR league) to fill in.


I do have Ben Tate, but I think IF Foster can get healthy he will be a beast again...thoughts?

[Fabs23]

Alright so a dude just put Arian Foster on the block in my league. He's askin for WR or QB. I have: VJ/DJax/Ocho/Decker/Plax

I think I am going to offer him DJax for Foster, thoughts? Djax is good for the home run, but I have VJ and Decker or Plax (This is a PPR league) to fill in.


I do have Ben Tate, but I think IF Foster can get healthy he will be a beast again...thoughts?

Dont do it...its Friday...wait until Monday at least. I'd be concerned Foster turns out to be nothing but a bust this year who is slowed by an injury off and on regardless of whether its today or Monday.

[chargerfn909]

Dont do it...its Friday...wait until Monday at least. I'd be concerned Foster turns out to be nothing but a bust this year who is slowed by an injury off and on regardless of whether its today or Monday.

Yea I was thinking about that. It just seems so damn tempting and DJax is big hit..or a complete miss. He's not all that ideal in PPR, I would have been much better off with a Welker or somebody of that sort. Week 1 Djax got me mid 20's, last week...4.

I have a good feeling about Decker being able to be more consistent week in and week out that DJax, and I think VJ is going to be a terror this year.

[Nainoa]

Alright so a dude just put Arian Foster on the block in my league. He's askin for WR or QB. I have: VJ/DJax/Ocho/Decker/Plax

I think I am going to offer him DJax for Foster, thoughts? Djax is good for the home run, but I have VJ and Decker or Plax (This is a PPR league) to fill in.


I do have Ben Tate, but I think IF Foster can get healthy he will be a beast again...thoughts?

Uggg... I wouldn't want to fall back on decker... That guy is one of the most fragile WR's in the league...

How much is Foster as an upgrade to your RB corp?

What kind of QB situation to you have...

I would actually look to do something like Trade Decker (Who's value is inflated ATM) and your #2 QB for Foster?

[chargerfn909]

Uggg... I wouldn't want to fall back on decker... That guy is one of the most fragile WR's in the league...

How much is Foster as an upgrade to your RB corp?

What kind of QB situation to you have...

I would actually look to do something like Trade Decker (Who's value is inflated ATM) and your #2 QB for Foster?


Full roster:

QBs: Schaub, Cutler
RBs: Forte (beastin in PPR), Reggie Bush, Ben Tate, McCluster (had j Chaarles)--So Foster would be a huge upgrade if heathy
WRs: VJ/DJax/Plax/Ocho/Decker
TE: Witten
D: Lions
K: Folk