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Chris Partlow
09-05-2011, 11:38 AM
trade help
10 team league, .5 ppr

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Arian Foster, Steven Jackson, Mark Ingram, Brandon Jacobs, Joseph Addai
WR: Calvin J., Santonio Holmes, Brandon lloyd, Austin Collie, Greg little, Arrelius Benn
TE: Jimmy Graham
K Mason Crosby
D Giants

trade is

Arian foster and austin collie

for

miles austin and rashard mendenhall

Definitely


do you guys think Dallas Clark's value will be the same, better or worse with Manning out?

I want to trade him for another starting WR because I'm kind of thin, but I doubt anyone will want Clark now.

I had him at #1 early on, more like #5 now. Still a good TE, I just traded Clark/Hillis for Witten/MJD though

Who is your other TE?

joebus36
09-05-2011, 11:48 AM
Any miscers with experience with in strange leagues I could us some advice. I'm playing for money in a league that has some weird scoring and roster settings.

Scoring settings- 6pt passing TDs, PPR, and tons of bonuses for going over a certain amount of yardage.

We start 2 QBs, 2 RBS, 3 WRs, TE, D/ST, K

The second QB can actually be a player from any position so keep that in mind.What would be a good strategy going into the draft?

Yeahbudday
09-05-2011, 11:52 AM
Team A: Eli Manning and Santana Moss

for

Team B:Josh Freeman and Dez Bryant

Who gets better deal?

ftown
09-05-2011, 11:54 AM
Team A: Eli Manning and Santana Moss

for

Team B:Josh Freeman and Dez Bryant

Who gets better deal?I like Freeman and Dez better.

joebus36
09-05-2011, 11:56 AM
Team A: Eli Manning and Santana Moss

for

Team B:Josh Freeman and Dez Bryant

Who gets better deal?

Freeman and Dez are way better.

ZidaneValor
09-05-2011, 11:58 AM
Thinking about offering the Peyton Manning owner Mike Tolbert for the lulz.

Problem is that I'd think I'd rather have Tolbert right now. My QBs are Schaub and Stafford.

UncertainPerson
09-05-2011, 12:01 PM
1PPR. who do i start in my flex?

reggie bush, julio jones, ahmad bradshaw, nate burleson

Nainoa
09-05-2011, 12:01 PM
Thinking of taking Calvin Johnson 11th overall. I just like him the most out of all the receivers and would rather have him than a lower end rb with question marks. What do you guys think? He had 4 more touchdowns than Andre johnson last year (would have been 5 more td's if you count that week 1 touchdown that wasnt counted), and all of that with stafford hurt for a good amount of time.

I got Calvin in 2 leagues... In one he went 13th over all the other 15th...

NOW some of the guys in both those leagues dropped the ball and I was able to still get good backs etc...


If Stafford stays healthy all year, I think Megatron becomes the new #1 WR in the league with a stat line a head of Andre.

BUT if Stafford gets hurt... He stays at the 2nd round pick value.

joebus36
09-05-2011, 12:03 PM
Anyone think michael vick will go off and dominate fnatasy this year? Or is he being over hyped? And whens the earliest you would take him. Do you think he has the ability to make your team an almost sure lock to win your league?

Vick does have potential to single handily win you multiple games. However, in my opinion Vick is too much of a risk to take him in the first year simply because there is high risk of injury with his style of play. Also defense started to figure him out at the end of last season. I may take him if he fell to me in the late second when all the top tier guys are gone, but ultimately the decision is up to you.

PotKettleBlack
09-05-2011, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't feel bad about dropping any of those three guys. They do have sleeper value, but sleepers with future value are not worth holding on to if you have a pressing need for your starting lineup.

I agree and disagree. I think they all hold a ton of value at a certain point down the line, but I have the need so, a fill-in week to week until/if I can make a permanent trade is necessary.


Man I really dont like Colt McCoy because he doesnt score TDs, but I agree completely yhat you need that second QB. If you were gonna release a guy it has to be Snelling. I dont see that running game doing mudh this year with the amount of passes they are going to attempt. Harrison is going to play at some point, Ringer isnt the for sure backup to CJ2K right now-Jaimie Harper has caught all the attention. Ringer is a pretty bland back that just gets it done and Harper is a younger Mike Turner.
Who is the Chiefs backup QB? Its not looking like Cassel is going to start this week(as of now). I would look at Collins before someone like McCoy.

I think Ringer is the guy to back up CJ, he's the guy with the experience in the system, and has always got the job done whenever asked to, but I kind of agree with Snelling, although he has shown the ability to catch balls out of the backfield which I like.

I think match-up wise McCoy is a decent-ish bet. I'm just in a poor situation in general, so need to pick the best of a bad bunch as temporary solution. Collins, McCoy and even Cam Newton (vs. Arizona) are my options really. Not a spot I'd ever like to be in again tbh...

OrdoAbchao
09-05-2011, 12:35 PM
do you guys think Dallas Clark's value will be the same, better or worse with Manning out?

I want to trade him for another starting WR because I'm kind of thin, but I doubt anyone will want Clark now.

I'm in the same situation and....




At this point I wouldn't trade him. His value is probably going to drop significantly to the public, but I honestly believe he will be at where he was last year, if not better. This is because we see this every year. A starting QB goes down and the backup doesn't have the talent to get it deep to a guy like Wayne. They use guys like Clark as a safety net. He'll be getting a lot of targets, and I want him badly now especially if it is a PPR league. I'm going to try and lowball guys for clark in my PPR leagues.

this is exactly what I am hoping/thinking.

I am going to wait and see what really happens though.

LocalDealer
09-05-2011, 01:35 PM
Finished my 10 team league draft last night. No PPR, standard flex league. Went mostly BPA and happy with the outcome. Results:

Andre Johnson, WR
Darren McFadden, RB
Larry Fitzgerald, WR
Hakeem Nicks, WR

Knowshon Moreno, RB
Jahvid Best, RB
Matt Schaub, QB
Mark Ingram, RB

Chad Ochocinco, WR
Kellen Winslow, TE
Brandon Jacobs, RB
Brandon Pettigrew, TE

Roy Williams, WR
AJ Green, WR
49ers D/ST
Billy Cundiff, K

Jayarbie
09-05-2011, 02:13 PM
I doubt Clark and Wayne will be affected much by the QB situation, except maybe a little more inconsistent. These guys are pro bowlers. They'll get their looks regardless of who is throwing. The other receivers who are 3rd and 4th in Peyton's normal progressions aren't going to see many balls. Addai should be OK, too, since Collins or Painter (or whoever) will be instructed to check down and make a safe play at the first sign of trouble.

mikeditka
09-05-2011, 02:14 PM
OK brahs....0.5 point PPR league.

In the flex spot....Felix Jones (@Jets) or Jordy Nelson (Saints)?????

The projection is Jones = 8.77 Nelson = 7.05. I'm leaning toward Felix, but the I have the Jets Defense.

Leaning towards starting Felix and picking up a defense for the week.

peteypistol
09-05-2011, 02:29 PM
^^ cmon ditka, felix jones all the way

Jayarbie
09-05-2011, 02:47 PM
OK brahs....0.5 point PPR league.

In the flex spot....Felix Jones (@Jets) or Jordy Nelson (Saints)?????

The projection is Jones = 8.77 Nelson = 7.05. I'm leaning toward Felix, but the I have the Jets Defense.

Leaning towards starting Felix and picking up a defense for the week.

Why would you pick up another defense? No player, especially an RB will ruin a whole defensive day, unless he goes off for like 250 and 3TDs, but if you have that on your side as well, who cares? The obvious play is Felix and the Jets.

peteypistol
09-05-2011, 02:58 PM
i might get flamed for this, but whats ur opinions on TO? he had a good season last year on a horrible team, and still has some tread left in him. Would it be crazy to pick him up with ur last pick if you have a deep bench and hold onto him till he signs with a team?

dirtdickens
09-05-2011, 03:10 PM
Thinking about offering the Peyton Manning owner Mike Tolbert for the lulz.

Problem is that I'd think I'd rather have Tolbert right now. My QBs are Schaub and Stafford. Offer him Schaub or Stafford for Manning, you dont have anything to lose.

I offered up Big Ben to the Manning owner in my league.

dirtdickens
09-05-2011, 03:14 PM
Anyone think michael vick will go off and dominate fnatasy this year? Or is he being over hyped? And whens the earliest you would take him. Do you think he has the ability to make your team an almost sure lock to win your league? Look, you keep asking the same question hoping to get the response you want, which should tell you that its not a great idea. But, here are some facts:
-The Eagles are starting two rookies on the OL this year, they face the best pass rushers and Vick plays a wreckless style. He will miss a game.
-Even if Vick is the leading scorer at QB he has to outscore everyother QB by a huge margain to make up for what you are giving up at WR and RB by not taking one in the first.

mikeditka
09-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Why would you pick up another defense? No player, especially an RB will ruin a whole defensive day, unless he goes off for like 250 and 3TDs, but if you have that on your side as well, who cares? The obvious play is Felix and the Jets.
I was thinking drop Arrelious Benn and start Cleveland's D against the Bungels. Then, play Felix.

That's not that obvious to me, in that every projection I look at has Cleveland's D scoring 35-55% higher than the Jets D.

mikeditka
09-05-2011, 03:26 PM
I just always hate starting a player against my own D. It's counter productive. I typically like to gamble on another defense or player hitting.

biggquis
09-05-2011, 05:51 PM
Anyone think michael vick will go off and dominate fnatasy this year? Or is he being over hyped? And whens the earliest you would take him. Do you think he has the ability to make your team an almost sure lock to win your league?

Vick will get hurt at some point. Just hope its early in the season so he can come back and play for the fantasy playoffs

biggquis
09-05-2011, 05:52 PM
i might get flamed for this, but whats ur opinions on TO? he had a good season last year on a horrible team, and still has some tread left in him. Would it be crazy to pick him up with ur last pick if you have a deep bench and hold onto him till he signs with a team?

Go for it. If he comes in, he'll be better than anything currently on waivers. As long as you can stash him and still have one or two options for your lineup

JetLife21
09-05-2011, 05:59 PM
Thinking of taking Calvin Johnson 11th overall. I just like him the most out of all the receivers and would rather have him than a lower end rb with question marks. What do you guys think? He had 4 more touchdowns than Andre johnson last year (would have been 5 more td's if you count that week 1 touchdown that wasnt counted), and all of that with stafford hurt for a good amount of time.

I would go with Calvin. I had the 10th and 11th pick in my draft and took McCoy and Calvin with Andre still on the board.

Idontlikeit
09-05-2011, 06:17 PM
Offer him Schaub or Stafford for Manning, you dont have anything to lose.

I offered up Big Ben to the Manning owner in my league.

Guy in my league has Rodgers and Manning. Who should I offer him for Peyton? qb for qb?

QB E. Manning, S. Bradford
RB MJD, M. Turner, B. Jacobs, D. Thomas, M. Hardesty
WR M. Williams (TB), B. Lloyd, M. Thomas, Greg Little
TE M. Lewis, J. Cook
K D. Carpenter
Def NYG

dirtdickens
09-05-2011, 06:48 PM
I wouldnt make the move if I were you as you have a very good QB in Bradford and a decent backup in Eli. You wouldnt really benfit enough to make up for the risk.
However, if you did make the trade he would probably take Bradford for Manning. He isnt really getting anything out of the deal unless you overpay or give up a position player-which is too much if you ask me.


Guy in my league has Rodgers and Manning. Who should I offer him for Peyton? qb for qb?

QB E. Manning, S. Bradford
RB MJD, M. Turner, B. Jacobs, D. Thomas, M. Hardesty
WR M. Williams (TB), B. Lloyd, M. Thomas, Greg Little
TE M. Lewis, J. Cook
K D. Carpenter
Def NYG

ZidaneValor
09-05-2011, 07:20 PM
Offer him Schaub or Stafford for Manning, you dont have anything to lose.

What? I wouldn't trade either Schaub or Stafford one-on-one for Manning. Why the hell would I give them both up for a QB that has neck and arm weakness?

Peyton Manning might be healthy in time for the fantasy playoffs, but no way I start him until he's been back for a couple of games.

You better hope the Manning owner in your league is too stupid to take the Big Ben that you just gift wrapped for him.

UncertainPerson
09-05-2011, 08:23 PM
1PPR. who do i start in my flex?

reggie bush, julio jones, ahmad bradshaw, nate burleson

bump

its50
09-05-2011, 08:33 PM
1st draft of the year with a bunch of guys from the office

1ppr, 4/passing TD, 6/rushing/receiving TD, 10 teamer


draft order: 10th

http://i.imgur.com/g3Taq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UoT52.jpg


- was going for WR/WR strategy...picked Andre without a blink but i was struggling hard between Calvin and Roddy
- wanted Stafford/Bradford as my duo but Stafford got taken 54th overall. i guess it wasn't all bad though, Ben was still available at 71th overall lol
- was aiming for Amendola as a bench receiver but he was grabbed in the 7th rd, a couple of picks before me. i think Rams are going to improve in their passing game very well with McDaniels there


how'd i do, fellas?

OrdoAbchao
09-05-2011, 09:38 PM
1st draft of the year with a bunch of guys from the office

1ppr, 4/passing TD, 6/rushing/receiving TD, 10 teamer


draft order: 10th

http://i.imgur.com/g3Taq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UoT52.jpg


- was going for WR/WR strategy...picked Andre without a blink but i was struggling hard between Calvin and Roddy
- wanted Stafford/Bradford as my duo but Stafford got taken 54th overall. i guess it wasn't all bad though, Ben was still available at 71th overall lol
- was aiming for Amendola as a bench receiver but he was grabbed in the 7th rd, a couple of picks before me. i think Rams are going to improve in their passing game very well with McDaniels there


how'd i do, fellas?

looks real solid...i am in an identical league with the no flex 3wr/2rb but mine is non ppr. I would bet that you are going to be contending in the playoffs.

union44
09-05-2011, 09:54 PM
How's my team? 0.5 PPR. 10 team league.

http://s1.postimage.org/7m4v4hz6h/fantasy.jpg

SaniK
09-05-2011, 10:30 PM
Jonathan Stewart or Brandon Marshall/Steve Johnson in my flex for non PPR league? Currently have Stewart.

Vigilante_Inc
09-05-2011, 10:52 PM
Ok just want to get a few opionions on my line up:

Sure Starts this week:
A. Rodgers QB
D. Mcfadden RB
C. Johnson WR
W. Welker WR
J. Witten TE
49 Defense

I have 1 RB and 1 WR spot to fill by comittie.

At RB my options are:
Mark Ingram @ Green Bay
Tim Hightower vs. NY Giants
Fred Jackson @ K. City
Brandon Jacobs @ Washington
Ben Tate vs. Indianapolis (If Foster doesn't get the go I'm leaning in this direction lol)

At WR my options are:
Mike Thomas (Jaguars) vs. Tennessee
Robert Meachamp @ GreenBay
Arrelious Benn vs. Detroit
Andre Roberts vs. Carolina
Antonio Brown @ Baltimore

Currently I have them listed as I would rank them to start. So currently going with Ingram and Mike Thomas but I can be convinced other wise haha

biggquis
09-06-2011, 01:44 AM
Ok just want to get a few opionions on my line up:

Sure Starts this week:
A. Rodgers QB
D. Mcfadden RB
C. Johnson WR
W. Welker WR
J. Witten TE
49 Defense

I have 1 RB and 1 WR spot to fill by comittie.

At RB my options are:
Mark Ingram @ Green Bay
Tim Hightower vs. NY Giants
Fred Jackson @ K. City
Brandon Jacobs @ Washington
Ben Tate vs. Indianapolis (If Foster doesn't get the go I'm leaning in this direction lol)

At WR my options are:
Mike Thomas (Jaguars) vs. Tennessee
Robert Meachamp @ GreenBay
Arrelious Benn vs. Detroit
Andre Roberts vs. Carolina
Antonio Brown @ Baltimore

Currently I have them listed as I would rank them to start. So currently going with Ingram and Mike Thomas but I can be convinced other wise haha

I'd go with Ingram or Fred Jackson and Meacham. AS far as receivers, its not even close in my opinion. New Orleans will throw the ball, and who's gonna catch them? Broken knee Colston? I don't think so. Meacham is the best receiver on the team, and he sure as hell is a better player than Mike Thomas. For the backs, I'd go with either of the two I posted. Ingram will be good, but there's just too many risks IMO, plus playing Green Bay D. jackson won't give you 30 points, but he won't give you 3 either

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 02:28 AM
I never said anything about trading both Schaub and Stafford for Manning.
You could make an upgrade by moving either an injury prone Stafford(that has only played like 13 games) or Schaub for Manning, and you are covered till Manning returns.

I start Matt Ryan, so trading backup Big Ben for the opportunity to steal a Manning that will miss 1-3 games is not a huge risk to me.

What? I wouldn't trade either Schaub or Stafford one-on-one for Manning. Why the hell would I give them both up for a QB that has neck and arm weakness?

Peyton Manning might be healthy in time for the fantasy playoffs, but no way I start him until he's been back for a couple of games.

You better hope the Manning owner in your league is too stupid to take the Big Ben that you just gift wrapped for him.

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 02:34 AM
bump Bush or Bradshaw, toss up.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 02:55 AM
Jonathan Stewart or Brandon Marshall/Steve Johnson in my flex for non PPR league? Currently have Stewart.

I'd go Marshall. Stewart won't have much value until Dangelo Williams inevitably gets hurt.

ZidaneValor
09-06-2011, 05:49 AM
I never said anything about trading both Schaub and Stafford for Manning.
You could make an upgrade by moving either an injury prone Stafford(that has only played like 13 games) or Schaub for Manning, and you are covered till Manning returns.

Ok, I can't read.

I still wouldn't trade either guy for Manning. Stafford might be injury-prone, but at least he's not injured at the moment. And I think Big Ben is a better fantasy QB than Matt Ryan, even with this new "opened up" offense.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 06:47 AM
bump

Bradshaw, assuming all is healthy(?) is the best option there... After that... I'd probably go Burleson... Reggie and Julio need to show what they can do when the games actually count before I give them the nod.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 06:48 AM
I'd go Marshall. Stewart won't have much value until Dangelo Williams inevitably gets hurt.

Agreed...

Steve Johnson would even go over Stewart at this time... He might even out perform Marshall 49% of the time this season!

ezmac31
09-06-2011, 07:20 AM
collie, rice or floyd ? no ppr

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 07:26 AM
collie, rice or floyd ? no ppr

Sounds like Collie isn't entirely healthy and who knows how Collins will do... Nor is Sidney Rice 100% plus his QB sucks... So I'd have to say Floyd by simple default of being healthy and having the best QB throwing to him in a high powered offense.

its50
09-06-2011, 07:29 AM
1st draft of the year with a bunch of guys from the office

1ppr, 4/passing TD, 6/rushing/receiving TD, 10 teamer


draft order: 10th

http://i.imgur.com/g3Taq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UoT52.jpg


- was going for WR/WR strategy...picked Andre without a blink but i was struggling hard between Calvin and Roddy
- wanted Stafford/Bradford as my duo but Stafford got taken 54th overall. i guess it wasn't all bad though, Ben was still available at 71th overall lol
- was aiming for Amendola as a bench receiver but he was grabbed in the 7th rd, a couple of picks before me. i think Rams are going to improve in their passing game very well with McDaniels there


how'd i do, fellas?

bump, for the non-50post/pg'ers


also, should i go Best or Felix in week 1? DAL playing the Jets

ezmac31
09-06-2011, 07:30 AM
Sounds like Collie isn't entirely healthy and who knows how Collins will do... Nor is Sidney Rice 100% plus his QB sucks... So I'd have to say Floyd by simple default of being healthy and having the best QB throwing to him in a high powered offense. true. also helps that i am playing against rivers so it would be a td cancelling situation which is a nice bonus i guess.

OrdoAbchao
09-06-2011, 07:34 AM
Don't know what to do at TE for week 1. Non-ppr.

Dallas Clark vs HOU with no Manning

Jimmy Graham vs GB

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 07:36 AM
true. also helps that i am playing against rivers so it would be a td cancelling situation which is a nice bonus i guess.

Yeah I always like to have the WR's from other owners in my division.

The one year where my primary competition for the Division title was the guy who had Romo and I had Austin and Witten was a blast!

Although now he still has Romo but now has Witten and Austin is on my bench...

He's not my primary competition this year... Instead this year it's the guy who has Schaub... And I have Andre!
:D

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 07:38 AM
Don't know what to do at TE for week 1. Non-ppr.

Dallas Clark vs HOU with no Manning

Jimmy Graham vs GB

I have each of these guys in separate leagues... I'm rolling the dice on Graham this week... In NO's dress rehearsal game Graham got A LOT of looks... If he keeps building trust and report with Brees that could be HUGE.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 07:40 AM
bump, for the non-50post/pg'ers


also, should i go Best or Felix in week 1? DAL playing the Jets

Looks pretty good... You just better hope Bradford steps up like he's supposed to!

I'd start Best (As long as his concussion is cleared?) He's playing the lesser D this week, and you might as well get the points out of him before he gets hurt again!
;)
:D

NY Money Mike
09-06-2011, 07:52 AM
How would you guys rank these three, standard scoring, non-ppr

Mendenhall, MJD, Turner

ftown
09-06-2011, 08:03 AM
How would you guys rank these three, standard scoring, non-ppr

Mendenhall, MJD, Turner
Mendenhall #1 for sure. The other two I think it's a toss up, but I'd rather have Turner than MJD. Never really was a fan of Jones-Drew, even though many will probably disagree with me.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 08:04 AM
How would you guys rank these three, standard scoring, non-ppr

Mendenhall, MJD, Turner


Mendy
Turner
MJD

I'd love to rank MJD higher than this... But if that knee was as minor as he's been pretending it is for the last year, then it would have been better BY NOW...

ftown
09-06-2011, 08:05 AM
Mendy
Turner
MJD

I'd love to rank MJD higher than this... But if that knee was as minor as he's been pretending it is for the last year, then it would have been better BY NOW...exactly agreed.

OrdoAbchao
09-06-2011, 08:21 AM
I have each of these guys in separate leagues... I'm rolling the dice on Graham this week... In NO's dress rehearsal game Graham got A LOT of looks... If he keeps building trust and report with Brees that could be HUGE.

I watched one of the saints pre-season games and noticed that Graham was targeted like 8 times. 2 in the end zone I think so it looks like he will be catching some passes. Plus I have Brees as my QB so it could be huge. I might roll the dice too, but these are decisions that can win or lose your week haha.

NY Money Mike
09-06-2011, 08:22 AM
yea, I traded for mjd in the middle of last year and he really picked it up for me. I think he has the most upside, especially with jennings out. But is prob the most risky. I have 9th pick. I I'm prob going to take Mendy first. Then best RB again which will most likely be mcfadden

oh and I agree on Graham

waias15
09-06-2011, 08:23 AM
How would you rate these guys in order having them as WR3. Std scoring, no ppr

Collie
Meachem
Amendola

And who would you start at flex?

Ryan grant or cedric benson

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 08:39 AM
My buddy is playing towards my homerism and offered me Knowshon Moreno for Kenny Britt


my current WR's are

WR1: Welker
WR2: Harvin
WR3: Britt
Bench: Mike Thomas
Bench: Mike Sims-Walker
Bench: Steve Smith (CAR)


My RB's are:

RB1: Ray Rice
RB2: Darren McFadden
FLEX: Tim Hightower
Bench: Jonathan Stewart
Bench: Ben Tate


so as you can see my starting WR's aren't great already, but at the same time my RB depth is shallow and both of the guys I have on my bench are non-starters right now.

With Knowshon and Hightower I could play the matchups each week at Flex and know that I have an entrenched starter on the bench for bye's and in case of injuries.

I'm also high on Mike Thomas and Mike Sims-Walker this year. Thomas because he's the #1 guy and he's entering his 3rd season which is usually the breakout year for recievers. Sims-Walker because he's going to be the most reliable downfield and redzone option for Sam Bradford


What do you guys think?

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 08:40 AM
How would you rate these guys in order having them as WR3. Std scoring, no ppr

Collie
Meachem
Amendola

And who would you start at flex?

Ryan grant or cedric benson


Meachem - best potential to grab 100 yards for you. Will atleast usually have 50-60 yards most games. Good deep threat
Amendola - would be more valuable in PPR
Collie - No Manning, no care.

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 08:50 AM
I would do that deal whether it was ppr or not.

My buddy is playing towards my homerism and offered me Knowshon Moreno for Kenny Britt


my current WR's are

WR1: Welker
WR2: Harvin
WR3: Britt
Bench: Mike Thomas
Bench: Mike Sims-Walker
Bench: Steve Smith (CAR)


My RB's are:

RB1: Ray Rice
RB2: Darren McFadden
FLEX: Tim Hightower
Bench: Jonathan Stewart
Bench: Ben Tate


so as you can see my starting WR's aren't great already, but at the same time my RB depth is shallow and both of the guys I have on my bench are non-starters right now.

With Knowshon and Hightower I could play the matchups each week at Flex and know that I have an entrenched starter on the bench for bye's and in case of injuries.

I'm also high on Mike Thomas and Mike Sims-Walker this year. Thomas because he's the #1 guy and he's entering his 3rd season which is usually the breakout year for recievers. Sims-Walker because he's going to be the most reliable downfield and redzone option for Sam Bradford


What do you guys think?

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 08:54 AM
I would do that deal whether it was ppr or not.


It's .5 PPR


Even with my already thin WR corps? Do you feel high on Thomas and/or Sims-Walker as well?


I am just concerned that Knowshon is gonna get all his TD's poached by Willis this year. Also kind of expecting a big year from Britt. He would have been a 1,000 yard guy last year if he played a full 16 games. Hasselbeck is no stud but he can get him the ball.

JakeDub
09-06-2011, 08:55 AM
who do I start week 1 at my flex? Ahmad Bradshaw @ Washington or Shonn Greene @ Dallas. I'm leaning towards Bradshaw.

also on my bench are steve johnson, brandon lloyd, ben tate, mike thomas, and antonio brown if you think any of them make a case for starter.

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 08:58 AM
Yes, I think you have enough options at WR to grab another RB. Thomas and MSW can fill in at wr3. I am not high on DMac or Hightower and I think you will need the help.

It's .5 PPR
Even with my already thin WR corps? Do you feel high on Thomas and/or Sims-Walker as well?
I am just concerned that Knowshon is gonna get all his TD's poached by Willis this year. Also kind of expecting a big year from Britt. He would have been a 1,000 yard guy last year if he played a full 16 games. Hasselbeck is no stud but he can get him the ball.

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 09:20 AM
Yes, I think you have enough options at WR to grab another RB. Thomas and MSW can fill in at wr3. I am not high on DMac or Hightower and I think you will need the help.


I see. I'm gonna try to get him to throw in a WR in the trade. The 3 recievers I could concievably get are Santana Moss, Danny Amendola or Johnny Knox. I would have to throw in another piece as well most likely

MarkHenry25
09-06-2011, 09:33 AM
Any injuries i should know about for my draft tonight?

DannyStylez
09-06-2011, 09:36 AM
Rice
Gore
McFadden
Best

Pick 3 out of these 4 for week 1.
Currently have Best sitting.

Borla118
09-06-2011, 09:58 AM
who to drop, start RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, standard scoring

RB: CJ2K, Gore, Felix, Best, Bush, Carter
WR: Roddy, Boldin, Moss, Green, Floyd

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 10:06 AM
who to drop, start RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, standard scoring

RB: CJ2K, Gore, Felix, Best, Bush, Carter
WR: Roddy, Boldin, Moss, Green, Floyd


Drop Carter, you are pretty set at RB and you already have 1 lottery ticket on your bench (Bush).

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 10:07 AM
Rice
Gore
McFadden
Best

Pick 3 out of these 4 for week 1.
Currently have Best sitting.


Sit Best

I would probably try to trade Best honestly, his trade value is pretty high and he's your 4th best RB, you could probably get a starting WR for him.

DatAzz
09-06-2011, 10:16 AM
Rice
Gore
McFadden
Best

Pick 3 out of these 4 for week 1.
Currently have Best sitting.

Sit Best and don't trade him like the other guy said unless you are super weak at another spot, its always good to have a back up plan if one of your rbs goes down

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 10:24 AM
Sit Best and don't trade him like the other guy said unless you are super weak at another spot, its always good to have a back up plan if one of your rbs goes down

I feel like he'll be injured again, and once he's hurt his trade value drops to almost nothing. You could get a WR2 for him. I don't know what this guy's roster looks like but I'd be willing to bet he has a 5th RB who can come in and play in a jam.


Also... he really ran the ball like **** last year. 3.0 YPC is ATROCIOUS, even for a rookie, even for a rookie on a bad team. Like I said, I think his trade value is really high, and what you'll get back for him will be more reliable and useful than a guy who breaks like glass and can't run between the tackles.

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 10:25 AM
Who does everyone think will have a better season this year, Percy Harvin or Kenny Britt?

Assuming both are healthy/not in jail/not suspended

matty_b_bop
09-06-2011, 10:30 AM
do you guys start the Steelers defense against the Ravens and the Packers defense against the Saints?

DatAzz
09-06-2011, 10:37 AM
do you guys start the Steelers defense against the Ravens and the Packers defense against the Saints?

I'd go Steelers, more chance of a low scoring defensive game plus the packers game could turn into a shoot out

matty_b_bop
09-06-2011, 10:42 AM
I'd go Steelers, more chance of a low scoring defensive game plus the packers game could turn into a shoot out

well, i have both defenses for different teams. i'm more worried about the Packers considering the shoot-out aspect. I'm going to go with the Steelers for one league, but not sure if I should start the Packers or pick up someone like the Cardinals (vs. Car) for this week.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 10:46 AM
do you guys start the Steelers defense against the Ravens and the Packers defense against the Saints?

Steelers. Steelers - Ravens is the most brutal slugfest rivalry in all of football. Last 3 games in Balt:

Steelers 13-10
Ravens 20-17 (OT)
Steelers 13-9

Averaging 13 pts/gm allowed.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 10:53 AM
Who does everyone think will have a better season this year, Percy Harvin or Kenny Britt?

Assuming both are healthy/not in jail/not suspended

If both play 16 games stout... Harvin will be more consistent... Britt will be streaky... His big games will be bigger than Percy, his small games will be smaller than Percy. That's just Britt's game and the Titans passing offense in general... Not to mention lack of chemistry in systems with hasselbeck.

If I had to choose which one to start...

I'd start Percy and then anytime Britt has a matchup against a team with a strong rushing D I'd rotate Britt in on those matchups, until his work ethic and play prove otherwise.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 10:54 AM
Steelers. Steelers - Ravens is the most brutal slugfest rivalry in all of football. Last 3 games in Balt:

Steelers 13-10
Ravens 20-17 (OT)
Steelers 13-9

Averaging 13 pts/gm allowed.

Yeah whenever Steelers play Ravens is a friggin' gutter war, and it seems like the Steelers Defense always contributes to the Steelers game/win.

matty_b_bop
09-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Steelers. Steelers - Ravens is the most brutal slugfest rivalry in all of football. Last 3 games in Balt:

Steelers 13-10
Ravens 20-17 (OT)
Steelers 13-9

Averaging 13 pts/gm allowed.


Yeah whenever Steelers play Ravens is a friggin' gutter war, and it seems like the Steelers Defense always contributes to the Steelers game/win.

thanks, guys.

I also have the Packers D going up against the Saints in a different league, though. I was already pretty set on starting the Steelers, but I'm not sure about the Packers D playing against the Saints in my other league. Thoughts on that?

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 11:06 AM
If both play 16 games stout... Harvin will be more consistent... Britt will be streaky... His big games will be bigger than Percy, his small games will be smaller than Percy. That's just Britt's game and the Titans passing offense in general... Not to mention lack of chemistry in systems with hasselbeck.

If I had to choose which one to start...

I'd start Percy and then anytime Britt has a matchup against a team with a strong rushing D I'd rotate Britt in on those matchups, until his work ethic and play prove otherwise.


I think they both have high ceilings this year. I'm trying to swindle an owner out of Jahvid Best for 1 of these recievers, and then flip Best to somebody else for a reciever like Brandon Lloyd or Mike Williams. Basically buy low, sell high. Not that interested in keeping Best but I know a few owners around the league who are high on him, so I'm trying to get this guy to give him for me for cheap.

So basically I'm trying to decide which reciever I would rather include in the deal.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 11:10 AM
I think they both have high ceilings this year. I'm trying to swindle an owner out of Jahvid Best for 1 of these recievers, and then flip Best to somebody else for a reciever like Brandon Lloyd or Mike Williams. Basically buy low, sell high. Not that interested in keeping Best but I know a few owners around the league who are high on him, so I'm trying to get this guy to give him for me for cheap.

So basically I'm trying to decide which reciever I would rather include in the deal.


Then I'd go Percy... The problem with Britt isn't his ability it's his attitude and work ethic. Percy has a great work ethic... On any given Sunday (Assuming health) Percy is going to know the game plan and understand the role they're asking him to play.

Britt will be too preoccupied punching a stripper in the face and going on high speed chases with cops to be able to study the game plan week in and week out.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 11:11 AM
thanks, guys.

I also have the Packers D going up against the Saints in a different league, though. I was already pretty set on starting the Steelers, but I'm not sure about the Packers D playing against the Saints in my other league. Thoughts on that?

I think the Saint's offense is going to be pretty hot this year... And that game smells more like a shoot out than a shut down.

Zabooni
09-06-2011, 11:15 AM
who to drop, start RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, standard scoring

RB: CJ2K, Gore, Felix, Best, Bush, Carter
WR: Roddy, Boldin, Moss, Green, Floyd

It's between Carter and Floyd. I'd drop Floyd. Your RBs are injury prone, and with a flex spot, RBs are more valuable.

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 11:20 AM
So I picked up Ben Tate last week when word broke that Foster may have a torn hammy. I was hoping to trade him to Foster's owner, but he wasn't interested, and nobody else seems to be interested either

Should i drop Tate and pick up the Arizona defense going against CAR this week?

I've got GB defense and worried about the likely NO shootout. Don't want to drop the GB defense because I think they'll have an excellent season, but I would reaaalllllly rather not play them against new orleans

MarkHenry25
09-06-2011, 11:21 AM
well, i have both defenses for different teams. i'm more worried about the Packers considering the shoot-out aspect. I'm going to go with the Steelers for one league, but not sure if I should start the Packers or pick up someone like the Cardinals (vs. Car) for this week.

Definately pick up arizonas d vs carolina. No question in my mind you will fare alottttt better with that matchup instead of packers having to face brees and company all night.

DatAzz
09-06-2011, 11:21 AM
well, i have both defenses for different teams. i'm more worried about the Packers considering the shoot-out aspect. I'm going to go with the Steelers for one league, but not sure if I should start the Packers or pick up someone like the Cardinals (vs. Car) for this week.

I do like greenbays d and usually roll with the best defense but the match up vs Carolina is bound to have a few turn overs. Its a tough call at this point without seeing anyone play but I'd stick with talent over match ups which is greenbay

MarkHenry25
09-06-2011, 11:22 AM
Any injuries i should know about for my draft tonight?

Anyone?

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 11:26 AM
So I picked up Ben Tate last week when word broke that Foster may have a torn hammy. I was hoping to trade him to Foster's owner, but he wasn't interested, and nobody else seems to be interested either

Should i drop Tate and pick up the Arizona defense going against CAR this week?

I've got GB defense and worried about the likely NO shootout. Don't want to drop the GB defense because I think they'll have an excellent season, but I would reaaalllllly rather not play them against new orleans

No... In that situation I'd still ride the pony and hope that in that shoot out there's tipped ball picks or a kick off return etc...

Ben Tate is going to have to prove his value.

But if it's true that Foster had/has a Grade 2 Hammy tear you'll see it in his play in the first week or two and then capitalize on the fear it will generate in the Foster owner.


IF it is a grade 2 Hammy it's going to linger with Foster all season (Just like it did to moreno last year and forte the year before)... OR they'll have to sit him for a 2-3 game stretch.

But Ben Tate's value other than the inital knee jerk is a "Developing Story" that's only going to be written on the field by Ben Tate and Arian Foster.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 11:44 AM
No... In that situation I'd still ride the pony and hope that in that shoot out there's tipped ball picks or a kick off return etc...


I agree. The NO game isn't a great matchup on paper, but starters are starters for a reason, and sometimes you have to be careful not to overthink playing matchups, but rather just dance with the girl you brought and maybe temper your expectations a little.

Onita
09-06-2011, 11:46 AM
Week 1 flex, 1 point PPR:

Shonne Greene, Fred Jackson, Brandon Lloyd, or Sims-Walker?

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 11:51 AM
No... In that situation I'd still ride the pony and hope that in that shoot out there's tipped ball picks or a kick off return etc...

Usually I would, but our defensive format this year is including tiered points for yards allowed in addition to the usual points allowed. So I could see myself getting 0 points for yards allowed, 0 points for points allowed, and then maybe like 2 sacks and a pick, thats a 4 point outing.

Ben Tate is going to have to prove his value.

But if it's true that Foster had/has a Grade 2 Hammy tear you'll see it in his play in the first week or two and then capitalize on the fear it will generate in the Foster owner.


IF it is a grade 2 Hammy it's going to linger with Foster all season (Just like it did to moreno last year and forte the year before)... OR they'll have to sit him for a 2-3 game stretch.

Yeah thats why I scooped him. Then I told the Foster owner about how bad Forte's 09 season was and how Foster has the same injury haha. He said he's going to wait it out.

But Ben Tate's value other than the inital knee jerk is a "Developing Story" that's only going to be written on the field by Ben Tate and Arian Foster.

Yeah thats why I hate wasting a roster spot on him, just playing the waiting game. I guess if Foster goes for 150 yards in week 1 I can feel comfortable dropping him.


Answers above

DatAzz
09-06-2011, 11:51 AM
Week 1 flex, 1 point PPR:

Shonne Greene, Fred Jackson, Brandon Lloyd, or Sims-Walker?

I don't usually start a wr over rb1's but I think you gotta go Lloyd

Shangius
09-06-2011, 11:53 AM
rate team once again. Got Romo and Mathews for McFadden. 10 man ppr.

QB: Tony Romo
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB/WR: Ryan Mathews
WR: Miles Austin
WR: Jeremy Maclin
D/ST: Saints
K: Gostkowski

Bench: Eli
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Brandon Marshall
Bench: Marshawn Lynch
Bench: Daniel Thomas
Bench: Mike Williams (SEA)
Bench: Ben Tate

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 11:53 AM
I agree. The NO game isn't a great matchup on paper, but starters are starters for a reason, and sometimes you have to be careful not to overthink playing matchups, but rather just dance with the girl you brought and maybe temper your expectations a little.

Yeah the only time I ever advocate playing the matchups is in a case where you have two serious studs, one has a tough game on his slate, the other is playing a gutter team type of thing.

Otherwise a Stud is a stud for a reason... Because Studs always find a way to get you points.

Benching a stud for an on paper quirky matchup is a text book case of what I call "Think Yourself Stupid."

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 11:56 AM
Interested in getting some feedback on this team. 10 team PPR league, 4pts/Passing TD. Start 2 RB, 3 WR and 1 RB/WR spot

QB: Sam Bradford (QBs went REALLY early, missed on all of my earlier targets)
RB: Rice, Best, Wells, Hightower, Ronnie Brown
WR: Fitz, Nicks, Megatron, Bess, Jordy Nelson, Meachem, Branch (Traded for Fitz and Megatron last night...details below)
TE: Finley
D/ST: Patriots
K: ummm......


My big concerns are if Bradford in a legit starting QB in a 10 team league, and RB depth

Trades: Sent Reggie Bush and Percy Harvin to a Vikes fan for Larry Fitz

Sent Peyton Hillis for Calvin Johnson to a guy that missed hard on RBs

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 12:00 PM
Speaking of "Think Yourself Stupid" I got outbid and beat up on Defense and Tight End this year in the Auction... People just had way too much money and were willing to way over pay... I ended up with San Diego D (With Rivera Gone and Sproles out of town) I'm feeling a little low on them.

Most of the teams in my league have 2 Defenses this year :confused: and are unwilling to trade or drop etc...

I'm trying to avoid the temptation to feel High on the Lion's Defense???

D's in my league can score like a High end TE or a Low end #2 WR

Scoring for Defensive Categories Setting
BFB - Blocked Field Goals (ID/ST/DST) 5 points
BP - Blocked Punts (ID/ST/DST) 5 points
DFR - Defensive/ST Fumble Recovered (ID/DT/DST) 1 point
DTD - Total Defensive and Special Teams TD 6 points

Int - Interceptions 2 points
PA - Points Against, Total Points Scored
0 - 3 PA = 10 points
4 - 10 PA = 6 points
11 - 17 PA = 3 points
SACK - Sack 1 point
STY - Safety 2 points

YDS - Yards Allowed
0 - 49 YDSs = 10 points
50 - 99 YDSs = 8 points
100 - 169 YDSs = 6 points
170 - 220 YDSs = 4 points
221 - 300 YDSs = 2 points

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 12:04 PM
Interested in getting some feedback on this team. 10 team PPR league, 4pts/Passing TD. Start 2 RB, 3 WR and 1 RB/WR spot

QB: Sam Bradford (QBs went REALLY early, missed on all of my earlier targets)
RB: Rice, Best, Wells, Hightower, Ronnie Brown
WR: Fitz, Nicks, Megatron, Bess, Jordy Nelson, Meachem, Branch (Traded for Fitz and Megatron last night...details below)
TE: Finley
D/ST: Patriots
K: ummm......


My big concerns are if Bradford in a legit starting QB in a 10 team league, and RB depth

Trades: Sent Reggie Bush and Percy Harvin to a Vikes fan for Larry Fitz

Sent Peyton Hillis for Calvin Johnson to a guy that missed hard on RBs

You better go buy a Rams Jersey, a bible and some lottery tickets on your way to Vegas, because you're going to need some serious luck to turn Bradford into a Legit #1.

Right now you have too much WR depth and you should have used one of those RB trades for a QB.

While I think Bradford takes a step up this year, He's still at best a #2 QB...

In the end you're going to have to either get lucky as hell, or like Trade Nicks for a starting QB somewhere.

Prozium913
09-06-2011, 12:05 PM
10-man league. Standard scoring. Did I do ok?

QB - Matt Ryan
QB - Matthew Stafford

RB - Rashard Mendenhall
RB - Frank Gore
RB - Jahvid Best

WR - Calvin Johnson
WR - Jeremy Maclin
WR - Santonio Holmes
WR - Lance Moore
WR - Hines Ward
WR - Deion Branch

TE - Jason Witten
TE - Marcedes Lewis

DEF - Detroit

PK - Josh Brown STL

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 12:07 PM
rate team once again. Got Romo and Mathews for McFadden. 10 man ppr.

QB: Tony Romo
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB/WR: Ryan Mathews
WR: Miles Austin
WR: Jeremy Maclin
D/ST: Saints
K: Gostkowski

Bench: Eli
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Brandon Marshall
Bench: Marshawn Lynch
Bench: Daniel Thomas
Bench: Mike Williams (SEA)
Bench: Ben Tate

Pretty solid... I'd rather see another RB on your bench, rather than Eli or Flacco (No need for 3 QB's!)

Until you see Maclin play I'd start Marshall in his place... Even though Maclin doesn't have AIDS/Leukemia or Cancer of ye olde twig and berries... He still lost a lot of weight, and hasn't practiced a lot.

He's not going to be in game shape for the first couple weeks of the season... So I'd lean on Marshall coming out of the gate and when Maclin's stat lines approach Marshall's make the switch.

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Interested in getting some feedback on this team. 10 team PPR league, 4pts/Passing TD. Start 2 RB, 3 WR and 1 RB/WR spot

QB: Sam Bradford (QBs went REALLY early, missed on all of my earlier targets)
RB: Rice, Best, Wells, Hightower, Ronnie Brown
WR: Fitz, Nicks, Megatron, Bess, Jordy Nelson, Meachem, Branch (Traded for Fitz and Megatron last night...details below)
TE: Finley
D/ST: Patriots
K: ummm......


My big concerns are if Bradford in a legit starting QB in a 10 team league, and RB depth

Trades: Sent Reggie Bush and Percy Harvin to a Vikes fan for Larry Fitz

Sent Peyton Hillis for Calvin Johnson to a guy that missed hard on RBs


Wow you raped the Vikings fan, and considering I'm low on Hillis, you raped that guy too.

Your team is stacked, the only question mark for me is Best as your RB2. If he stays healthy and improves his YPC he will be a solid choice, but he's so fragile its hard for me to feel confident about him. But between him, Beanie and Hightower, you should be solid at RB. And your strength at WR should make up for any deficiencies.


EDIT: Bradford is also a question mark but I'm fairly high on him, I don't think he'll be a world beater but I think he'll put up something along the lines of 3700 yards and 25 TD's

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 12:09 PM
You better go buy a Rams Jersey, a bible and some lottery tickets on your way to Vegas, because you're going to need some serious luck to turn Bradford into a Legit #1.

Right now you have too much WR depth and you should have used one of those RB trades for a QB.

While I think Bradford takes a step up this year, He's still at best a #2 QB...

In the end you're going to have to either get lucky as hell, or like Trade Nicks for a starting QB somewhere.


being a PPR format...you think its better to move Nicks for a QB...than roll with an uber-elite WR core?

I'll concede that Bradford is a boom or bust...but how big is the gap between Bradford and a tier 2 guy going to be in respect to the dropoff at WR?

Shangius
09-06-2011, 12:11 PM
Pretty solid... I'd rather see another RB on your bench, rather than Eli or Flacco (No need for 3 QB's!)

Until you see Maclin play I'd start Marshall in his place... Even though Maclin doesn't have AIDS/Leukemia or Cancer of ye olde twig and berries... He still lost a lot of weight, and hasn't practiced a lot.

He's not going to be in game shape for the first couple weeks of the season... So I'd lean on Marshall coming out of the gate and when Maclin's stat lines approach Marshall's make the switch.

Yeah Eli was my starter prior to trading for Romo. Will use either him or Flacco as tradebait for a guy who has Fitzpatrick as his starter.

And good call on moving Marshall into the starting lineup. I think he'll have a nice bounceback season.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 12:15 PM
being a PPR format...you think its better to move Nicks for a QB...than roll with an uber-elite WR core?

I'll concede that Bradford is a boom or bust...but how big is the gap between Bradford and a tier 2 guy going to be in respect to the dropoff at WR?

If you can start 3WR's then I say stick with the horse and buggy you've got there...

But if you can only start 2, then the logic you need to measure it by is based on Nick's value collecting dust on your bench, vs the 7-10 points less that Bradford is going to get you.

I guess another fall back position here is to look at the Free Agent QB pool available in your league... IF you're going to keep 3 star WR, then there's certainly no need to haul 4 bench recievers around who will never crack the starting lineup unless a nuclear bomb goes off in your #1's.

So I would look for another QB in Bradford's talent level... Make room for him by kicking one of your #4 receivers out, and then platoon Bradford and this other QB.

You'll want to be smart and pre-analyze the matchups... Try to find a guy who's got a kitten matchup when Bradford has a touch matchup etc...

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 12:20 PM
Speaking of "Think Yourself Stupid" I got outbid and beat up on Defense and Tight End this year in the Auction... People just had way too much money and were willing to way over pay... I ended up with San Diego D (With Rivera Gone and Sproles out of town) I'm feeling a little low on them.

Most of the teams in my league have 2 Defenses this year :confused: and are unwilling to trade or drop etc...

I'm trying to avoid the temptation to feel High on the Lion's Defense???

D's in my league can score like a High end TE or a Low end #2 WR

Scoring for Defensive Categories Setting
BFB - Blocked Field Goals (ID/ST/DST) 5 points
BP - Blocked Punts (ID/ST/DST) 5 points
DFR - Defensive/ST Fumble Recovered (ID/DT/DST) 1 point
DTD - Total Defensive and Special Teams TD 6 points

Int - Interceptions 2 points
PA - Points Against, Total Points Scored
0 - 3 PA = 10 points
4 - 10 PA = 6 points
11 - 17 PA = 3 points
SACK - Sack 1 point
STY - Safety 2 points

YDS - Yards Allowed
0 - 49 YDSs = 10 points
50 - 99 YDSs = 8 points
100 - 169 YDSs = 6 points
170 - 220 YDSs = 4 points
221 - 300 YDSs = 2 points

The Lions D is going to be a lot better, and the scoring in your league is actually somewhat beneficial for them. A team on the rise like that will make a lot of plays (sack, int, fumble, blocks, etc) but may still give up yards and points. Aside from the shutouts, the yds against and points against are not weighted too high (0-49 yds, really? LOL - any dominant defensive game will stuill be at least 170 yards against). Suh is a monster. San Diego has 6 favorable division matchups right off the top.

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 12:22 PM
If you can start 3WR's then I say stick with the horse and buggy you've got there...

But if you can only start 2, then the logic you need to measure it by is based on Nick's value collecting dust on your bench, vs the 7-10 points less that Bradford is going to get you.

I guess another fall back position here is to look at the Free Agent QB pool available in your league... IF you're going to keep 3 star WR, then there's certainly no need to haul 4 bench recievers around who will never crack the starting lineup unless a nuclear bomb goes off in your #1's.

So I would look for another QB in Bradford's talent level... Make room for him by kicking one of your #4 receivers out, and then platoon Bradford and this other QB.

You'll want to be smart and pre-analyze the matchups... Try to find a guy who's got a kitten matchup when Bradford has a touch matchup etc...

We start 3 WR and also have a flex slot

That said...I just had an offer accepted that I REALLY like. Sent Nicks and Hightower for Rivers and Moreno. Thoughts?

T2TL
09-06-2011, 12:40 PM
I think I fawked up my draft. The commish was drafting in front of me and knew what players I was going for and what strategy because I was helping out someone who was in another league and he overheard. My fault I guess, all in good fun and always looking to help people but it was at the expense of my team lol.

12 teams, non ppr, standard scoring but passing TDs are 3 points

QB - Stafford
RB - McCoy, Blount
WR - White, Marshall, Welker
TE - Pettigew
K - Folk
DEF - Chicago
BN - F.Jackson, Addai, Tate, Bradford, Meachem, Berrian, Bennett

Think I did alright but my bench is pretty bad, especially my WRs. I took who I thought would do well with what was left but I went for them so late there wasn't much left.

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 12:45 PM
I think I fawked up my draft. The commish was drafting in front of me and knew what players I was going for and what strategy because I was helping out someone who was in another league and he overheard. My fault I guess, all in good fun and always looking to help people but it was at the expense of my team lol.

12 teams, non ppr, standard scoring but passing TDs are 3 points

QB - Stafford
RB - McCoy, Blount
WR - White, Marshall, Welker
TE - Pettigew
K - Folk
DEF - Chicago
BN - F.Jackson, Addai, Tate, Bradford, Meachem, Berrian, Bennett

Think I did alright but my bench is pretty bad, especially my WRs. I took who I thought would do well with what was left but I went for them so late there wasn't much left.

Maybe not looking so hot now...but you have some good upside players. Little bit of luck and good trading and you're ok

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 01:07 PM
We start 3 WR and also have a flex slot

That said...I just had an offer accepted that I REALLY like. Sent Nicks and Hightower for Rivers and Moreno. Thoughts?

Thats a good trade, Hightower and Moreno are pretty much interchangeable, and Rivers is an elite QB. Good Job Dave Man.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 01:18 PM
We start 3 WR and also have a flex slot

That said...I just had an offer accepted that I REALLY like. Sent Nicks and Hightower for Rivers and Moreno. Thoughts?

Boy 3 plus a flex...

But then Rivers and Moreno...

Had you not mentioned Rivers and Moreno... Then I would tell you to sit with the 3 Stud WR's and then try to find another #2 QB to platoon with Bradford.

But putting Rivers and Moreno into the mix, essentially means that now you could upgrade QB, but downgrade WR Essentially from Nicks to Probably Branch...

Just out of Curiousity, what does the Free Agent QB pool look like, if there's like a Freeman or a Flacco in there I think I'd lean towards platooning... If there's just guys like Sanchez and Hasselbeck... Then I say pull the trigger and get Rivers.


Crap... Haven't had this many options since the old GI Joe "Choose your own adventure" comics of the 1980's!

its50
09-06-2011, 01:20 PM
Looks pretty good... You just better hope Bradford steps up like he's supposed to!

I'd start Best (As long as his concussion is cleared?) He's playing the lesser D this week, and you might as well get the points out of him before he gets hurt again!
;)
:D

yea, I really do think the Rams offense is going to improve dramatically with McD - if not, I got Rapisburger to fall back on (gonna be tough rooting for him when i dislike the steelers so much but i guess thats fantasy football for ya)



smart to play Best and Calvin on same team?

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 01:21 PM
Boy 3 plus a flex...

But then Rivers and Moreno...

Had you not mentioned Rivers and Moreno... Then I would tell you to sit with the 3 Stud WR's and then try to find another #2 QB to platoon with Bradford.

But putting Rivers and Moreno into the mix, essentially means that now you could upgrade QB, but downgrade WR Essentially from Nicks to Probably Branch...

Just out of Curiousity, what does the Free Agent QB pool look like, if there's like a Freeman or a Flacco in there I think I'd lean towards platooning... If there's just guys like Sanchez and Hasselbeck... Then I say pull the trigger and get Rivers.


Crap... Haven't had this many options since the old GI Joe "Choose your own adventure" comics of the 1980's!


QB pool is dry as a bone. For some reason like 8 of the 10 teams are carrying 2 QBs...and one guy has 3.

I pulled the trigger on the Rivers deal. I like Moreno better than Hightower..and Rivers gives me a legit top 5 QB option. Fitz and Megatron at WR make it a bit easier to roll with a possession guy like Bess at the WR3 spot imo

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 01:25 PM
QB pool is dry as a bone. For some reason like 8 of the 10 teams are carrying 2 QBs...and one guy has 3.

I pulled the trigger on the Rivers deal. I like Moreno better than Hightower..and Rivers gives me a legit top 5 QB option. Fitz and Megatron at WR make it a bit easier to roll with a possession guy like Bess at the WR3 spot imo

Yeah with this move, it's a little hard to say who's going to play out as your #3 WR... I think it will end up being Branch, but wouldn't be surprised if it's Bess. I just think Branch has a much better QB throwing to him... But Bess is slippery with his YAC.

Nainoa
09-06-2011, 01:26 PM
yea, I really do think the Rams offense is going to improve dramatically with McD - if not, I got Rapisburger to fall back on (gonna be tough rooting for him when i dislike the steelers so much but i guess thats fantasy football for ya)



smart to play Best and Calvin on same team?

Yeah I've got Rapelisburger, Andre and Calvin on my team... So uh... If you do bad I'm going to be really pissed!
:D


For now I'd say you're okay starting Best and Megatron... I mean might as well get good points out of Best for the week or two that he'll actually be healthy!

thefullmonte
09-06-2011, 01:29 PM
Yeah with this move, it's a little hard to say who's going to play out as your #3 WR... I think it will end up being Branch, but wouldn't be surprised if it's Bess. I just think Branch has a much better QB throwing to him... But Bess is slippery with his YAC.

True...but a ? at WR3 is MUCH better than at QB. Plus...Rivers is getting VJax back. If he repeats...i think this is a steal for me

Besides...I couldnt get Brady, Brees, Vick, or Rodgers. Rivers was the only other guy that I think I was confident enough in to move Nicks

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 02:08 PM
So I've got a guy who really wants Ray Rice from me, I've been trying to get him to give up Rashard Mendenhall, VJ and Moreno. He says the best he will offer is Rashard, Manningham and Jahvid Best.

My current RB's: Rice, McFadden, Hightower, Stewart, Tate
My current WR's: Welker, Harvin, Britt, Mike Thomas, MSW, Steve Smith (CAR)


I'm just not sure Manningham is as big of an upgrade at WR as I would like, although it is a really fair trade.

FatWhiteKid
09-06-2011, 02:14 PM
got the thirs pick in my draft which is in half an hour. Im hoping ap or rice will be their. I am pretty sure ap will be gone but think theres a chance rice is their. If not who do you guys suggest i take? Also any notable injuries i might be forgetting about for the draft

I was in a 14 man league and opted to go Mike Vick #4 overall, AP and Rice went 1 & 2 in my draft so I'd definitely consider Rice second

FatWhiteKid
09-06-2011, 02:21 PM
Man i have been goin back n forth about vick for os long now. I am hoping i can get him in the secon round at pick 17 but i dont see that happeneing i hope i dont have to pull the trigger on him at number 3 but may have to. Do you think vick is gonna dominate like last year?

Well my league had 14 people so my 4th round pick was pretty much my only shot at a stud QB and the amount of stud QB's is a lot smaller than RBs or WRs. If Vick dropped to the 17th round then the people you're playing are idiots. I traded for Mike Vick last year the day he got hurt, but once he came back I won high points 4 weeks in a row, Mike Vick wins you games and I don't think there is a better fantasy player than him. It's a gamble, as is everything, but if it pays off then it REALLY pays off with him.

FatWhiteKid
09-06-2011, 02:27 PM
If ap and ray rice are gone im gonna go with chris johnson

Dudes happy now that he's got his money, plus they really don't have many options aside from giving him the football.

biggquis
09-06-2011, 02:27 PM
Jonathan Stewart or Brandon Marshall/Steve Johnson in my flex for non PPR league? Currently have Stewart.

Go Marshall for sure this week. The Patriots can't cover big receivers

NoS_oUtLaSt
09-06-2011, 02:30 PM
Two questions
Cutler vs ATL
Romo @ NYJ

Flex spot
Shonne Greene vs DAL
Reggie Bush vs NE
Santonio Holmes vs DAL
J-Stew vs ARZ

Leaning towards Romo and Greene

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 02:33 PM
Two questions
Cutler vs ATL
Romo @ NYJ

Flex spot
Shonne Greene vs DAL
Reggie Bush vs NE
Santonio Holmes vs DAL
J-Stew vs ARZ

Leaning towards Romo and Greene

I would lean the same way

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 02:35 PM
Go Marshall for sure this week. The Patriots can't cover big receivers On a side note Bess has scored a TD in the last three matchups and avg 7 receptions in each game.

I would start Marshall too, Miami looked pretty good in the passing game and I am not sold on the Pats pass defense.

TommyStarwind
09-06-2011, 02:39 PM
Rodgers Vs New Orleans
Brady @ Miami??

DeAngelo Williams @ ARI
Jamaal Charles Vs Buf
Maurice Jones-Drew Vs. Ten

I have Brandon Lloyd, Vincent Jackson, and Wes Welker for my wideouts... I'm curious about the QB matchup and the top two running backs for this time. Going through the preseason stuff I didn't really get to watch too much of NO or MIA defense... I'm thinking that of the two Brady would have an easier time. The running backs I'm not too sure about the Titans run defense right now. I will keep Charles in it is more of a question of Jones-Drew or DeAngelo Williams...

DL Addict
09-06-2011, 02:45 PM
Rodgers Vs New Orleans
Brady @ Miami??

DeAngelo Williams @ ARI
Jamaal Charles Vs Buf
Maurice Jones-Drew Vs. Ten

I have Brandon Lloyd, Vincent Jackson, and Wes Welker for my wideouts... I'm curious about the QB matchup and the top two running backs for this time. Going through the preseason stuff I didn't really get to watch too much of NO or MIA defense... I'm thinking that of the two Brady would have an easier time. The running backs I'm not too sure about the Titans run defense right now. I will keep Charles in it is more of a question of Jones-Drew or DeAngelo Williams...

Is this a 4man league?

Rodgers and Brady = Flip a coin.
MJD and Charles for RB. MJD has averaged 108.5 vs TEN in the last 3 years. Carolina needs to prove they can keep teams from stacking the box before I buy DWill/JStew over those guys.

TommyStarwind
09-06-2011, 02:50 PM
Is this a 4man league?

Rodgers and Brady = Flip a coin.
MJD and Charles for RB. MJD has averaged 108.5 vs TEN in the last 3 years. Carolina needs to prove they can keep teams from stacking the box before I buy DWill/JStew over those guys.

Yes a four man league haha otherwise I wouldn't have such choices... I'm going to lean towards brady for this one... Owen Daniels or Dallas Clark against each other @ Houston? I'd pull more so for Daniels? Then again its Kerry Collins who may have to rely more so on Dallas? I find it a hard choice. Worse thing about the smaller leagues.. At least with the big ones you know who your top picks will be.

Parlor_Mob
09-06-2011, 03:23 PM
Allright brahs, I'm in a dilemma here. I have Ray Rice and Mendenhall as my starting RB's. They both face each other and Steelers have a strong running D.

Dumb question, but should I bench Rice? He was the guy I chose with my first pick so I feel dumb if I bench him. I have Mike Tolbert on the bench if I do go that route. This is for a non PPR league.

its50
09-06-2011, 03:28 PM
Yeah I've got Rapelisburger, Andre and Calvin on my team... So uh... If you do bad I'm going to be really pissed!
:D


For now I'd say you're okay starting Best and Megatron... I mean might as well get good points out of Best for the week or two that he'll actually be healthy!

you really think Best is a lock to get injured at some point this season? i sure hope not :(

biggquis
09-06-2011, 03:41 PM
Question... should I pick up my bye week QB (Bradford) now or wait on him? In my league, we only get 4 bench players, so I have Reggie Bush, Johnny Knox, Julio Jones (Keeper for next year) and Rob Gronkowski.

Starters:
Matt Stafford
LeSean McCoy
Shonn Greene
Tim Hightower
Calvin Johnson Jr. lol
Mike Wallace
Vincent Jackson
Jimmy Graham
Ravens
Rob Bironas

What makes it difficult, is that I'd be dropping Gronk (who I know will be top 10. He was 5 last year) to play an unproven Jimmy Graham every week. I think Graham will be great, but its nice having insurance. Am I overvaluing the TE position? Better to have insurance at QB, right? Plus I guess I won't get stuck with a bum during Detroit's bye (St. Louis plays Arizona). Only thing is... I'd have to drop a player to cover for Graham's bye, unless I play without a TE. By that time, I'd suspect Knox will be starting again, and Bush will still be getting most of the work in Miami. What would you guys do?

biggquis
09-06-2011, 03:42 PM
On a side note Bess has scored a TD in the last three matchups and avg 7 receptions in each game.

I would start Marshall too, Miami looked pretty good in the passing game and I am not sold on the Pats pass defense.

Do you think Bush cuts into Bess' numbers at all?

biggquis
09-06-2011, 03:44 PM
Two questions
Cutler vs ATL
Romo @ NYJ

Flex spot
Shonne Greene vs DAL
Reggie Bush vs NE
Santonio Holmes vs DAL
J-Stew vs ARZ

Leaning towards Romo and Greene

Yeah I'd go Romo and Greene also

mAssholio
09-06-2011, 03:46 PM
you really think Best is a lock to get injured at some point this season? i sure hope not :(

This year I decided to draft against the whole injury risk theory and picked up:

Best, Finley and Gore.

Lol I feel like I should mail them some of dat dere cell tech.

its50
09-06-2011, 03:56 PM
This year I decided to draft against the whole injury risk theory and picked up:

Best, Finley and Gore.

Lol I feel like I should mail them some of dat dere cell tech.

lol oh my, good luck to you man

high risk, high reward

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 04:02 PM
So I've got a guy who really wants Ray Rice from me, I've been trying to get him to give up Rashard Mendenhall, VJ and Moreno. He says the best he will offer is Rashard, Manningham and Jahvid Best.

My current RB's: Rice, McFadden, Hightower, Stewart, Tate
My current WR's: Welker, Harvin, Britt, Mike Thomas, MSW, Steve Smith (CAR)


I'm just not sure Manningham is as big of an upgrade at WR as I would like, although it is a really fair trade.


Do I accept this trade brahs?

I give up Rice & Britt
I get Mendenhall, Manningham & Best?

Keep in mind I know for a fact I can flip Best for at the very least, Brandon Lloyd. Which would give me a WR core of Lloyd, Manningham and Welker, and RB's of Mendenhall, McFadden & Hightower

PullAndBear
09-06-2011, 04:14 PM
First time in this thread....

Dropping my defense (dolphins) and picking up the texans D (since they are playing the colts). Smart or dumb?

biggquis
09-06-2011, 04:27 PM
Do I accept this trade brahs?

I give up Rice & Britt
I get Mendenhall, Manningham & Best?

Keep in mind I know for a fact I can flip Best for at the very least, Brandon Lloyd. Which would give me a WR core of Lloyd, Manningham and Welker, and RB's of Mendenhall, McFadden & Hightower

Is there any way you can get VJax? You'd be gaining a potential homerun hitter in Best if he can stay healthy, and IMO, Manningham will be more consistent than Britt. Still, check if he can throw in Vjax with those two backs, since he didn't want to with Moreno

biggquis
09-06-2011, 04:28 PM
First time in this thread....

Dropping my defense (dolphins) and picking up the texans D (since they are playing the colts). Smart or dumb?

Great move. The Colts will be terrible without Manning this week, and the Texans D will be very good this year

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 04:33 PM
Do I accept this trade brahs? Absolutely not. Ray Rice is the only top back without any issues. Best will get KO'd at some point this season, it has happend every year since he was in college-youtube him against Maryland and the other one where he tried to flip over the GL. Its an interesting trade, but you cant move the top guy(at this point) without walking away with a huge pay off. Hold off for now, people tend to make too many moves before the season starts.


Do you think Bush cuts into Bess' numbers at all? Absolutely. I dont know how much, but I think Bush cuts into what Bess does. The interesting thing about the Bush move is that it might force the Phins to start putting Bess down fiels a bit more. He was always running little arrow routes, I dont see that happening as much.

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 04:37 PM
First time in this thread....

Dropping my defense (dolphins) and picking up the texans D (since they are playing the colts). Smart or dumb? You can find someone better. There are more terrible teams right now then I can remember in recent years. Between the Seahawks, Panthers, Bengals, Browns and now the Jags (since they cut Garrard and starting McCown)-you should be able to fins someone that plays one fo those teams. The Texans are not a good fantasy defense at all. The Colts have enough weapons to hurt people and their line doesnt surrender many sacks.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 04:42 PM
Allright brahs, I'm in a dilemma here. I have Ray Rice and Mendenhall as my starting RB's. They both face each other and Steelers have a strong running D.

Dumb question, but should I bench Rice? He was the guy I chose with my first pick so I feel dumb if I bench him. I have Mike Tolbert on the bench if I do go that route. This is for a non PPR league.

No, never bench your #1 pick stud RB at home when he's completely healthy. Don't worry about the matchup and don't overthink. It's likely Rice's production will be a little less than average, but not worth benching him for.

Parlor_Mob
09-06-2011, 04:50 PM
Thanks brah.

matty_b_bop
09-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Who do you start in the flex?

Mario Manningham @ Washington

-or-

Joesph Addai @ Houston



I have Manningham in right now.

biggquis
09-06-2011, 05:10 PM
Who do you start in the flex?

Mario Manningham @ Washington

-or-

Joesph Addai @ Houston



I have Manningham in right now.

I'd play Addai... Manningham will be good this year, but I don't see Houston's D being too good against a run heavy Colts team. From the looks of things, the Giants don't figure to be behind against the Skins, so they will probably lean on the run a little heavy this week.

swagmeout
09-06-2011, 05:22 PM
Dont laugh but these are my options at RB2 (i have studs at every other slot)

Daniel Thomas vs NE
Ben Tate vs INDI
Danny Woodhead @ MIA

who would you guys go with?

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Who do you start in the flex?

Mario Manningham @ Washington

-or-

Joesph Addai @ Houston



I have Manningham in right now.

I'd lean Manningham. If PPR, Manningham for sure.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 05:37 PM
I'd play Addai... Manningham will be good this year, but I don't see Houston's D being too good against a run heavy Colts team. From the looks of things, the Giants don't figure to be behind against the Skins, so they will probably lean on the run a little heavy this week.

Houston's D will be a lot better under Wade Phillips. Don't just take them for granted as weak. Plus, Indy has never been a real strong running team and the offense in general is no guarantee to do anything without Peyton. Addai is not a bad play, but is certainly a risk.

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 05:39 PM
Is there any way you can get VJax? You'd be gaining a potential homerun hitter in Best if he can stay healthy, and IMO, Manningham will be more consistent than Britt. Still, check if he can throw in Vjax with those two backs, since he didn't want to with Moreno

Nope, he is adamant about that. I might be able to get him to include VJax if I added Welker into the trade, but this is where it stands right now.


Absolutely not. Ray Rice is the only top back without any issues. Best will get KO'd at some point this season, it has happend every year since he was in college-youtube him against Maryland and the other one where he tried to flip over the GL. Its an interesting trade, but you cant move the top guy(at this point) without walking away with a huge pay off. Hold off for now, people tend to make too many moves before the season starts.

I wouldn't be keeping Best, I would be flipping him to another owner for another starting WR. I'm just as concerned about his injury problems as you are. But there is an owner in the league who is stacked at WR and thin on RB's who has already expressed an interest in Best. I know I could flip Best for Brandon Lloyd at the minimum. He also has Roddy White, Hakeem Nicks and Dez Bryant. I know I could get at least Lloyd, he's pretty much told me as much.

So my lineup would be

WR1 - Lloyd
WR2 - Manningham
WR3 - Welker
RB1 - Mendenhall
RB2 - McFadden
FLEX - Hightower

as opposed to my current roster:

WR1 - Welker
WR2 - Harvin
WR3 - Britt
RB1 - Rice
RB2 - McFadden
FLEX - Hightower

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 05:39 PM
Dont laugh but these are my options at RB2 (i have studs at every other slot)

Daniel Thomas vs NE
Ben Tate vs INDI
Danny Woodhead @ MIA

who would you guys go with?

Definitely Woodhead if those are really your only options. Woodhead is not bad as a desperation play because he will always get his 6-8 touches a game in the Kevin Faulk role. Neither of the other guys are guaranteed to get anything.

PullAndBear
09-06-2011, 05:48 PM
Disclaimer: I'm a complete FF noob

I'm confused if I should start Matthews or Tolbert at my Flex position since they both play for the Chargers. The problem is that I don't know which one will be starting... how can I see the starting lineup before my teams are locked? (yes noob question I know...)
Also, the ESPN projected points puts Matthews at 7.9 while putting Tolbert at 13.5. Do they know something I don't?

The only news I've heard is that Tolbert did NOT play in the last preseason game for the Chargers while Matthews did. Does that mean that Tolbert is probably going to start and they are trying to keep him safe?

UCLAbruin1
09-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I have the 12th pick in my non-ppr draft tomorrow. Should I do RB-WR for my 12-13 pick?

WR I kinda know who I want but for RB i'm a little confused.

How would you rank these guys: MJD, Turner, McCoy, DMC

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 06:16 PM
10 man league PPR standard rosters + flex..

Starting:

QB: Schaub
RB: Forte
RB: Charles
WR: DJax
WR: VJ
TE: Witten
K: Vinataeri
Def: Chargers
Flex: ???

On bench..

Ocho cinco
Plax
Reggie Bush
Julio Jones
Ben Tate
Zach Miller


Who to play at flex? Debating between Ocho and Reggie, but open to options...

T2TL
09-06-2011, 06:45 PM
MJD's value without Garrard? I had him as a late first rounder, early second rounder. People still leaving him there or putting him down as a do not draft?

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 06:46 PM
MJD's value without Garrard? I had him as a late first rounder, early second rounder. People still leaving him there or putting him down as a do not draft?


His value is probably better...

T2TL
09-06-2011, 06:49 PM
His value is probably better...

I want to believe it but I don't think I have as much confidence in him as you do. He was already the focal point of the offense. Now he's going to have even more people in the box against him while he's coming back from a pretty serious injury. On top of that Jennings is gone. Some may see that as helping his value but even that just puts everything on MJD. Prevents the fresh legs to come in and take a break. Not sure I'm touching him in the second if I can even though I had him on my radar the whole time.

T2TL
09-06-2011, 07:05 PM
drafting in 30 minutes. Just got my order, 8th in a 12 man league. My other draft last night I got 11th, just no luck. The 8th pick has a ton of value if one or two people fall to me but I'm not a huge fan of it. Looks like prime MJD territory which is what I was afraid of lol

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 07:10 PM
10 man league PPR standard rosters + flex..

Starting:

QB: Schaub
RB: Forte
RB: Charles
WR: DJax
WR: VJ
TE: Witten
K: Vinataeri
Def: Chargers
Flex: ???

On bench..

Ocho cinco
Plax
Reggie Bush
Julio Jones
Ben Tate
Zach Miller


Who to play at flex? Debating between Ocho and Reggie, but open to options...

Reggie. I wouldn't trust starting Ocho until I see something. Reggie is the feature back. He'll get his touches.

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 07:21 PM
I want to believe it but I don't think I have as much confidence in him as you do. He was already the focal point of the offense. Now he's going to have even more people in the box against him while he's coming back from a pretty serious injury. On top of that Jennings is gone. Some may see that as helping his value but even that just puts everything on MJD. Prevents the fresh legs to come in and take a break. Not sure I'm touching him in the second if I can even though I had him on my radar the whole time.


Yea, but look at Gore/Steven Jacksons production over the last few years in fantasy. Those dudes stud it up no matter what. I wouldn't over think it. I wouldn't reach for him, but if it makes sense, pull the trigger.

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Reggie. I wouldn't trust starting Ocho until I see something. Reggie is the feature back. He'll get his touches.

That's what I am thinking man. Plus Reggie should be getting a few receptions.

T2TL
09-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Yea, but look at Gore/Steven Jacksons production over the last few years in fantasy. Those dudes stud it up no matter what. I wouldn't over think it. I wouldn't reach for him, but if it makes sense, pull the trigger.

I think I'll go McCoy/Mendy 1st and Fitz 2nd since that'll be the WR most likely there. Then just go RB/RB 3/4 and I'll have my Rbs set up

edit - person took MJD before me, landed Andre. I'll take it lol

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 07:31 PM
I want to believe it but I don't think I have as much confidence in him as you do. He was already the focal point of the offense. Now he's going to have even more people in the box against him while he's coming back from a pretty serious injury. On top of that Jennings is gone. Some may see that as helping his value but even that just puts everything on MJD. Prevents the fresh legs to come in and take a break. Not sure I'm touching him in the second if I can even though I had him on my radar the whole time.

The Garrard and Jennings situations have less affect on his fantasy value than his injury (and age). He's got a lot of tread on the tires and is coming off a serious surgery. I'd worry about his production regardless of who is under center. There are several 1st/2nd round picks this year in that same boat - MJD, Gore, Jackson, D-Will, etc. You know several of these guys are going to end up on IR, and it's pretty much a crap shoot whether it's the one you took or not...

biggquis
09-06-2011, 07:35 PM
drafting in 30 minutes. Just got my order, 8th in a 12 man league. My other draft last night I got 11th, just no luck. The 8th pick has a ton of value if one or two people fall to me but I'm not a huge fan of it. Looks like prime MJD territory which is what I was afraid of lol

Don't fall for the Jones-Drew mojo. He's looked average during the preseason, and his body has lots of wear, plus he will face 8 or 9 in the box all year. I picked 8th and ended up lucking out that the person in front of me took MJD and McCoy fell to me. I'd rather live with an Andre Johnson than a RB with so many questions. Just my thoughts...

T2TL
09-06-2011, 07:36 PM
went Andre, Calvin. An insane RB train went before me so I'll just get the value later on. I have my picks.

biggquis
09-06-2011, 07:36 PM
Question... should I pick up my bye week QB (Bradford) now or wait on him? In my league, we only get 4 bench players, so I have Reggie Bush, Johnny Knox, Julio Jones (Keeper for next year) and Rob Gronkowski.

Starters:
Matt Stafford
LeSean McCoy
Shonn Greene
Tim Hightower
Calvin Johnson Jr. lol
Mike Wallace
Vincent Jackson
Jimmy Graham
Ravens
Rob Bironas

What makes it difficult, is that I'd be dropping Gronk (who I know will be top 10. He was 5 last year) to play an unproven Jimmy Graham every week. I think Graham will be great, but its nice having insurance. Am I overvaluing the TE position? Better to have insurance at QB, right? Plus I guess I won't get stuck with a bum during Detroit's bye (St. Louis plays Arizona). Only thing is... I'd have to drop a player to cover for Graham's bye, unless I play without a TE. By that time, I'd suspect Knox will be starting again, and Bush will still be getting most of the work in Miami. What would you guys do?

Bump

biggquis
09-06-2011, 07:38 PM
went Andre, Calvin. An insane RB train went before me so I'll just get the value later on. I have my picks.

Perfect. that's exactly what I would've done in my draft. Like I said, McCoy ended up falling to me, so I took him, and then Calvin on the way back. I would've been happy going Johnson/Johnson also. Because all of the other backs had question marks, I went RB/wr/wr/wr for my picks, and I think I have the best team in my league. Don't wait too long to snag a back, because I was a few picks too late picking up someone like Felix Jones in round 5.

Jayarbie
09-06-2011, 07:40 PM
Bump

I'd much rather have the insurance at QB, especially given Stafford's injury history.

dirtdickens
09-06-2011, 07:43 PM
I'd much rather have the insurance at QB, especially given Stafford's injury history. Yeah, ditch Gronk and grab Bradford.

T2TL
09-06-2011, 07:50 PM
Perfect. that's exactly what I would've done in my draft. Like I said, McCoy ended up falling to me, so I took him, and then Calvin on the way back. I would've been happy going Johnson/Johnson also. Because all of the other backs had question marks, I went RB/wr/wr/wr for my picks, and I think I have the best team in my league. Don't wait too long to snag a back, because I was a few picks too late picking up someone like Felix Jones in round 5.

Felix went in the 3rd before me. Ended up with Greene and DWill. I almost wish I took Ingram since I love him no homo but I decided I don't want a rookie at RB2 all season

edit - landed Ingram as my flex. wow lol

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 07:57 PM
Felix went in the 3rd before me. Ended up with Greene and DWill. I almost wish I took Ingram since I love him no homo but I decided I don't want a rookie at RB2 all season

Dwill is gonna have a good season if he can stay healthy.. Shonn Greene is solid, not gonna break the big ones, but he should be solid..PPR? If so dem Johnsons' are gonna do you right.


Dont be shy to take a look at Freeman later if you can still nab a top tier TE (especially if PPR)>.

biggquis
09-06-2011, 08:00 PM
Wow... first time ever with no Patriots on my team... feels bad man

ThaWorldIsYours
09-06-2011, 08:03 PM
Wow... first time ever with no Patriots on my team... feels bad man


Yeah I don't have any Broncos on my team right now. I drafted McGahee late but ended up dropping him taking a flyer on Ben Tate

T2TL
09-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Dwill is gonna have a good season if he can stay healthy.. Shonn Greene is solid, not gonna break the big ones, but he should be solid..PPR? If so dem Johnsons' are gonna do you right.


Dont be shy to take a look at Freeman later if you can still nab a top tier TE (especially if PPR)>.

play non ppr. Wish it was PPR lol. Would have drafted my RBs differently but the first 2 picks would have me on.

waias15
09-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Thinking of dropping marcedes lewis and picking up lance kendricks. Stupid move? I just feel like most of lewis' points were in his TDs and its looking like the jags aren't going to be in the red zone that often.

Thoughts?

chargerfn909
09-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Thinking of dropping marcedes lewis and picking up lance kendricks. Stupid move? I just feel like most of lewis' points were in his TDs and its looking like the jags aren't going to be in the red zone that often.

Thoughts?

I like the idea but I'd give it a week or two to test the waters...

swagmeout
09-06-2011, 08:59 PM
Definitely Woodhead if those are really your only options. Woodhead is not bad as a desperation play because he will always get his 6-8 touches a game in the Kevin Faulk role. Neither of the other guys are guaranteed to get anything.

you dont think Daniel Thomas is going to get atleast 6 carries? Reggie Bush can't honestly run for 20 a game can he!?

T2TL
09-06-2011, 09:10 PM
final team in my 12 teamer

QB - Big Ben
RB - Greene, D Williams
WR - Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson
RB/WR - Ingram
TE - Daniels
K - Bryant
DEF - Arizona
BN - F.Jackson, McGahee, Kolb, Knox, Meachem, Ford

I think I had a really solid draft but the RBs are gonna be sink or swim. I didn't get to land any of the backups I wanted besides FJax. I loaded up a bit on some decent late WRs to give me some trading room but I think I'm good for now. Don't think my starting lineup can be beat by anyone in the league.

its50
09-06-2011, 11:32 PM
final team in my 12 teamer

QB - Big Ben
RB - Greene, D Williams
WR - Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson
RB/WR - Ingram
TE - Daniels
K - Bryant
DEF - Arizona
BN - F.Jackson, McGahee, Kolb, Knox, Meachem, Ford

I think I had a really solid draft but the RBs are gonna be sink or swim. I didn't get to land any of the backups I wanted besides FJax. I loaded up a bit on some decent late WRs to give me some trading room but I think I'm good for now. Don't think my starting lineup can be beat by anyone in the league.

welcome to the Johnson & Johnson co. team lol

thought you were big on getting RB's early and often?

DoiEvenLift
09-06-2011, 11:41 PM
Finally had my money draft today. I posted a thread on this but I'll put it here too.

QB Tony Romo
RB Arian Foster
RB Darren McFadden
RB/WR Jahvid Best
WR Mike Wallace
WR Mario Manningham
TE Rob Gronkowski
D Chargers
K Matt Bryant

B Matthew Stafford
B Shonn Greene
B Tim Hightower
B Jerome Harrison
B Julio Jones
B Lance Moore
B Jared Cook

I am pretty happy with it. RB heavy, and WR light with some high upside guys. I may shop around a back or stafford for a receiver depending on how the season pans out. I feel like Manningham and Julio Jones will be more than capable of filling the WR2 role. I'm in talks with the guy who has Dez Bryant and also Michael Bush, so I would get Bryant and a handcuff to McFadden in bush, and give up something like julio jones and hightower/greene or something. I'm a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on a trade yet though. Will have to see week 1 first regardless because of league rules. Opinions?

T2TL
09-06-2011, 11:54 PM
welcome to the Johnson & Johnson co. team lol

thought you were big on getting RB's early and often?

I wanted to but I didn't expect to get the 8th pick lol. I hate having a later pick. Andre fell to me in the 1st so I felt I had to take him. I wanted to go for Gore but then Calvin fell to me and I felt like I had to take him. Was pretty mad actually lol. I think the 3 RBs I ended up with are probably best case scenario though. A run on RBs during that time and I'd be done.

On a side note, I was offered Calvin and Greene for Gore and DJax. Not going to take that but I'm thinking about countering for Mendenhall and DJax instead. What do you guys think?

T2TL
09-06-2011, 11:58 PM
You have an insane team. Don't know how you landed all these but good job. Manningham as a WR2 is fine and depending on how Jones starts off, he could be a good filler depending on matchups. I don't think you should do that deal. If you can handcuff DMC then do it but I'm not a huge fan of that deal. Right now you have a lot of injury prone RBs and a great RB depth.

Zabooni
09-07-2011, 01:11 AM
12 man league, should my Dez Bryant + Hightower for Vincent Jackson be a no brainer? League starts 2RB, 2WR, and flex. My WRs are Wallace and Bryant. My RBs are Mendenhall, MJD, and Felix Jones at flex. So Hightower is just sitting on my bench. I like the depth, and I feel like Dez could have a great year, but I don't see him out producing Vjax. I could also get Hakeem Nicks instead of Vjax, but I doubt it. Thoughts guys?

1337h4x
09-07-2011, 01:30 AM
12 man league, should my Dez Bryant + Hightower for Vincent Jackson be a no brainer? League starts 2RB, 2WR, and flex. My WRs are Wallace and Bryant. My RBs are Mendenhall, MJD, and Felix Jones at flex. So Hightower is just sitting on my bench. I like the depth, and I feel like Dez could have a great year, but I don't see him out producing Vjax. I could also get Hakeem Nicks instead of Vjax, but I doubt it. Thoughts guys?

jesus christ pull the trigger dude VJ is gonna be a top 5 WR this year bank it.

Harganoff
09-07-2011, 05:10 AM
Miles Austin @ NYJ (revis island)
or
Manningham @ WASH

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 05:29 AM
Miles Austin @ NYJ (revis island)
or
Manningham @ WASH I like Manningham's draw in this one. Tough call but WASH gives up a lot of passing scores. Probably have the same number of targets I just think Manningham gets more out of them. Not big on Austin this year.

ty247
09-07-2011, 05:39 AM
I like Manningham's draw in this one. Tough call but WASH gives up a lot of passing scores. Probably have the same number of targets I just think Manningham gets more out of them. Not big on Austin this year.

I'd take Manningham here too, but why not big on Austin this year?

No real reason to be down on him

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 05:55 AM
I'd take Manningham here too, but why not big on Austin this year?
No real reason to be down on him He had the one big year. I know a lot of people will disagree but its a talent issue for me. I think Between Witten, Bryant and Miles, that Miles is the least talented of the three. At some point Bryant will take over. The only real reason anyone uses when trying to prove Austin is legit is that Romo loves him and that was the year before Dez got there.

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 05:58 AM
you dont think Daniel Thomas is going to get atleast 6 carries? Reggie Bush can't honestly run for 20 a game can he!?

No, the coaching staff doesn't trust him and he had a poor camp/preseason. For week 1, expect nothing from Thomas. As the season progresses, hopefully, he will pick up the offense better and earn more time (because Bush certainly will not handle 25 touches / game all year...).

Plus, Woodhead's touches are more likely to be screens & draws, which means reception points in PPR and more likely more yards / touch.

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 06:02 AM
I'd take Manningham here too, but why not big on Austin this year?

No real reason to be down on him

The hammy is the biggest thing right now with Austin. That is why I would consider other matchups for week 1 (the injury plus facing Revis). Hammys take a while to fully heal, and Dallas has enough other weapons that Austin could very well lose his feature role if it lingers. Once he is fully healthy, he is a viable starter (as long as Romo is playing), but if Bryant emerges, Witten stays healthy, and Jones gets his reps as a check down, there might be too few balls for Austin to be a legit WR1.

ty247
09-07-2011, 06:25 AM
He had the one big year. I know a lot of people will disagree but its a talent issue for me. I think Between Witten, Bryant and Miles, that Miles is the least talented of the three. At some point Bryant will take over. The only real reason anyone uses when trying to prove Austin is legit is that Romo loves him and that was the year before Dez got there.

Austin's very talented, he is a beast in the open field and a great red zone threat. He's probably one of the better RAC receivers in the league. He isn't short on talent.


The hammy is the biggest thing right now with Austin. That is why I would consider other matchups for week 1 (the injury plus facing Revis). Hammys take a while to fully heal, and Dallas has enough other weapons that Austin could very well lose his feature role if it lingers. Once he is fully healthy, he is a viable starter (as long as Romo is playing), but if Bryant emerges, Witten stays healthy, and Jones gets his reps as a check down, there might be too few balls for Austin to be a legit WR1.

The matchup is the issue I'd be most concerned with, and possibly why I would avoid him week 1.. The hammy issue should be fine.

Otherwise, reason's I'd still expect him to be in the WR1 territory -

Romo is back, having Kitna QB was terrible.

I think Witten may have to stay in to block more often this year. I'm basing this on turnover on the o-line combined with the shortened off-season.

I don't expect the running backs share of receptions to increase beyond what they've been in past seasons. Just because one guy may get a bigger share of those receptions doesn't change the fact that the number of receptions should stay similar to what they've been in the past.

I expect Dez to breakout and eclipse 1000 yards receiving, but Romo's going to throw enough that Austin should get his as well. It's probably not going to be a 1400+ season like he put up in his breakout year, but I'd expect 1100+ yards and a fair number of touchdowns to go with.

NY Money Mike
09-07-2011, 06:38 AM
I see lots of talk about drafting in a later position. Draft tonight, non-ppr 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flex.

I draft 9th. Here are my two options for first 3 picks which you guys think is better.

Option 1: mccoy/Mendy/mjd
then mcfadden/SJAX/Turner
then bow/mike williams

Option 2: mccoy/mendy/mjd
then roddy/larry fitz/ vjax
then bradshaw/hillis

So its basically do I go RB,RB,WR or RB,WR,RB obv it's all situational but I have a good feel for how people will be picked

its50
09-07-2011, 07:01 AM
anybody try joining user created public leagues in yahoo? i don't like the option of 3 WR, but rather have it 2 WR and a RB/WR flex (which if your assigned to a public league, it wouldn't allow you a flex)

don't want to join a league, have an awesome first half of the season and then have the commish screw everyone over with some sh*tty rule change

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 07:17 AM
Miles Austin @ NYJ (revis island)
or
Manningham @ WASH

I haven't heard the injury updates on Austin (?) But if he's dinged at all... I say go Manningham... Austin is my #3 with Amendola hiding in the shadows if I need him... So I'm sitting Austin until I see how he plays...

In you cash Washington is the far less impressive D.

jalton
09-07-2011, 07:24 AM
I grabbed Reggie (I lost Kim K.) Bush late in the 5th round. Any thoughts or predictions? I might even start him week 1...

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 07:24 AM
I haven't heard the injury updates on Austin (?) But if he's dinged at all... I say go Manningham... Austin is my #3 with Amendola hiding in the shadows if I need him... So I'm sitting Austin until I see how he plays...

In you cash Washington is the far less impressive D.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4059/miles-austin

He's been practicing in a very limited fashion this week, but is expected to play. This has all the hallmarks of a "Questionable" listing and playing on Sunday although clearly not 100%. With Revis lurking in the shadows on top of the injury, I'd steer clear of Austin this week unless you have no other decent option.

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 07:27 AM
I grabbed Reggie (I lost Kim K.) Bush late in the 5th round. Any thoughts or predictions? I might even start him week 1...

He will probably be more valuable early in the year than late. He is the clear workhorse right now, but as Daniel Thomas learns the offense and gets up to speed (and the reps take their toll on Bush's fragile body), he's probably going to lose touches as the season progresses. So, if you are going to use him at all, use him now while he's at his peak.

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 07:28 AM
No, the coaching staff doesn't trust him and he had a poor camp/preseason. For week 1, expect nothing from Thomas. As the season progresses, hopefully, he will pick up the offense better and earn more time (because Bush certainly will not handle 25 touches / game all year...).

.

I have the Luxury of having Thomas as my #3 this year (With bush as #4 handcuff) I'm worried that it's going to be a muddled backfield there this year...

Right now I'm pinning my hopes on Thomas growing into the role by mid season, and that his current slow development is just a factor of not having any offseason prep etc...

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 07:34 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4059/miles-austin

He's been practicing in a very limited fashion this week, but is expected to play. This has all the hallmarks of a "Questionable" listing and playing on Sunday although clearly not 100%. With Revis lurking in the shadows on top of the injury, I'd steer clear of Austin this week unless you have no other decent option.

Yeah for me... My Starters are Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson... So the only time Austin cracks my lineup is bye weeks or injuries prevail.

This year is my "Go Big and Go Home" year in my auction/dynasty builder... Next year is a total rebuilding year for me.

At best next year's keepers for me look like:
*$500 cap

Big Ben $7
Matt Ryan $43
Blount $12
Daniel Thomas $76 (might be too spendy)
Calvin Johnson $101 (Might be a little high)
Amendola $12
Jimmy Graham $8

I can pick any 6 of those 7 ^^^^


Luckily since everyone over spent in this year's auction... There should be a lot of guys going back in, giving me a rich talent pool to bid for.

ty247
09-07-2011, 07:36 AM
I see lots of talk about drafting in a later position. Draft tonight, non-ppr 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flex.

I draft 9th. Here are my two options for first 3 picks which you guys think is better.

Option 1: mccoy/Mendy/mjd
then mcfadden/SJAX/Turner
then bow/mike williams

Option 2: mccoy/Mendy/mjd
then Calvin /larry fitz/ vjax / Roddy
then Hillis/bradshaw

So its basically do I go RB,RB,WR or RB,WR,RB obv it's all situational but I have a good feel for how people will be picked

Go Best Player Available, it's what everyone's draft philosophy should be.. getting whom you feel is the most talented and most likely to produce player at the draft position you have.

or if you want an a/b choice, option 2 but don't forget Calvin

ccounts54
09-07-2011, 07:44 AM
pick three to start this week.

Vernon Davis vs SEA
Jason Witten @ NYJ
Kenny Britt @ JAC
Tim Hightower vs NYG
Beanie Wells vs CAR

We can start two tight ends in this league. I'm leaning to Beanie, Witten, Davis. Davis lit up Seattle both times last year, I gotta think with it being Romo's first game back and Miles Austin bein on Revis island Romo's gonna be lookin to his safety valve a lot, and the Panthers' run defense looked awful in preseason.

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 07:56 AM
pick three to start this week.

Vernon Davis vs SEA
Jason Witten @ NYJ
Beanie Wells vs CAR

Romo's gonna be lookin to his safety valve a lot, and the Panthers' run defense looked awful in preseason.
exactly

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 08:07 AM
If Lance Moore doesnt practice today he wont play Thursday. Colston is still busted up.

I am seriously considering starting Meachem in one of the slots this week over Mike Thomas. Both should be decent in PPR but Meachem is looking pretty tough in that lineup. This is a huge bump for Graham and INgram owners.

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 08:14 AM
pick three to start this week.

Vernon Davis vs SEA
Jason Witten @ NYJ
Kenny Britt @ JAC
Tim Hightower vs NYG
Beanie Wells vs CAR

We can start two tight ends in this league. I'm leaning to Beanie, Witten, Davis. Davis lit up Seattle both times last year, I gotta think with it being Romo's first game back and Miles Austin bein on Revis island Romo's gonna be lookin to his safety valve a lot, and the Panthers' run defense looked awful in preseason.

Yep... That's the safe bet... Beanie, Witten, Davis...

The "Risk-Reward" pick, is Beanie, Hightower, Witten...

Hightower has been playing his ass off... Giants D-line is banged up/missing starters... And I worry how the 49'ers new offense will do when the games actually count and they're going against a division rival that always seems to step up when they play.

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 08:18 AM
I have the Luxury of having Thomas as my #3 this year (With bush as #4 handcuff) I'm worried that it's going to be a muddled backfield there this year...

Right now I'm pinning my hopes on Thomas growing into the role by mid season, and that his current slow development is just a factor of not having any offseason prep etc...

I'd say Bush is at least a #3/flex or even bye week #2 for the first half of the season, although, clearly the org was very high on Thomas when they drafted him and let both Brown and Ricky walk, so he will get every opportunity to earn playing time as the season progresses. The situation is only muddled to the extent that Thomas is able to step up his game. The Colts did the same thing with Donald Brown and he never took advantage of his ooportunities. For now, it's Bush's backfield.

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 08:20 AM
Yeah for me... My Starters are Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson... So the only time Austin cracks my lineup is bye weeks or injuries prevail.

This year is my "Go Big and Go Home" year in my auction/dynasty builder... Next year is a total rebuilding year for me.

At best next year's keepers for me look like:
*$500 cap

Big Ben $7
Matt Ryan $43
Blount $12
Daniel Thomas $76 (might be too spendy)
Calvin Johnson $101 (Might be a little high)
Amendola $12
Jimmy Graham $8

I can pick any 6 of those 7 ^^^^


Luckily since everyone over spent in this year's auction... There should be a lot of guys going back in, giving me a rich talent pool to bid for.

LOL, yeah, if your other options are Johnson and Johnson, there's no reason to even consider starting Austin even if he were completely healthy and not playing Revis...

union44
09-07-2011, 08:32 AM
How did I do? I got 2nd pick in the draft.

0.5 PPR
10 team league

QB - Matt Ryan
RB - Arian Foster
RB - Frank Gore
RB/WR - LeGarrette Blount
WR - Larry Fitzgerald
WR - Wes Welker
TE - Antonio Gates
DST - Cardinals
K - Sebastian Janikowski

Bench - Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin, Joe Flacco, James Starks, Greg Olson

FrankyOnions
09-07-2011, 08:33 AM
Who to play

Amendola vs Phil
Garçon @ hous

Ppr. Leaning amendola.

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 08:39 AM
Youre right

Who to play

Amendola vs Phil
Garçon @ hous

Ppr. Leaning amendola.

waias15
09-07-2011, 08:52 AM
Thinking of dropping marcedes lewis and picking up lance kendricks. Stupid move? I just feel like most of lewis' points were in his TDs and its looking like the jags aren't going to be in the red zone that often.

Thoughts?

Bump for advice. Really not feeling marcedes lewis at this point
If you were to keep marcedes and use a bench spot to stash kendricks who would you drop?
Bench:
Peyton
Shonn greene
Beanie wells
Mike tolbert
Austin collie
Robert meachem

ThaWorldIsYours
09-07-2011, 09:11 AM
Bump for advice. Really not feeling marcedes lewis at this point
If you were to keep marcedes and use a bench spot to stash kendricks who would you drop?
Bench:
Peyton
Shonn greene
Beanie wells
Mike tolbert
Austin collie
Robert meachem


Just drop Lewis, the Jags passing offense is going to be anemic this year with Luke McCown

If you insist on keeping him, drop Austin Collie

MindHeist
09-07-2011, 09:14 AM
How did I do? I got 2nd pick in the draft.

0.5 PPR
10 team league

QB - Matt Ryan
RB - Arian Foster
RB - Frank Gore
RB/WR - LeGarrette Blount
WR - Larry Fitzgerald
WR - Wes Welker
TE - Antonio Gates
DST - Cardinals
K - Sebastian Janikowski

Bench - Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin, Joe Flacco, James Starks, Greg Olson
strong RB core, WR and bench...Ryan usually just picks up 15 points a game and doesn't get great games that often

wat do for week 1 guys: Romo vs Jets or Freeman vs Detriot

Jayarbie
09-07-2011, 09:33 AM
Bump for advice. Really not feeling marcedes lewis at this point
If you were to keep marcedes and use a bench spot to stash kendricks who would you drop?
Bench:
Peyton
Shonn greene
Beanie wells
Mike tolbert
Austin collie
Robert meachem

Do you have another TE? Kendricks was a camp phenom, but as a rookie, he is still a complete unknown, so he is a risk to start, at least at the start of the season. If Lewis is your only TE, then maybe pick up Kendricks and keep Lewis and see what happens, and if Kendricks's camp translates into the same production in the regular season, drop Lewis after a week or two.

jay197
09-07-2011, 09:35 AM
who should i start at flex week 1?

Brandon Marshall, Mark Ingram, or Joseph Addai?

.5 ppr

Onita
09-07-2011, 09:52 AM
Who should I start?
TEAM 1
QB: Cassell
RB:McFadden
RB:Blount
WR:Miles Austin
WR: A. Johnson
TE:Daniels
Flex: Greene?
K: Rackers
D: Chicago

Bench: Peyton, Fred Jackson, Bush, Cadillac, B. Lloyd, Sims Walker, Vinatieri, Oakland D

TEAM 2

QB: Matt Ryan
RB:AP
RB: MJD
WR:Welker
WR:Williams (TB)
Flex:Forte
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

Bench: Sam Bradford, Snelling, Spiller, Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, Nick Folk, Chiefs

Both leagues are PPR

Criisp
09-07-2011, 09:56 AM
Should I trade Rodgers for Rivers? I might be able to get Lee Evans as well.

Prozium913
09-07-2011, 09:58 AM
Anybody know if Lance Moore is playing tomorrow night?

Yeahbudday
09-07-2011, 10:02 AM
Which of these FA QB's would be the best pickup?

Fitzpatrick
Sanchez
McCoy
Newton
Henne

Prozium913
09-07-2011, 10:04 AM
Which of these FA QB's would be the best pickup?

Fitzpatrick
Sanchez
McCoy
Newton
Henne

Chad Henne. Chad Henne. Chad Henne. No question.

DA_MOSS
09-07-2011, 10:12 AM
Should I start:

Brandon Pettigrew or Kellen Winslow?


I also have:

Lagarious Blount, MJD, Reggie Bush, Mike Tolbert and Ryan Mathews.. Am starting Blount and MJD at my RB spots, but need a RB/WR option out of the other 3..

My receivers are Maclin, Calvin Johnson and Sidney Rice..

no ppr league

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 10:20 AM
Which of these FA QB's would be the best pickup?

Fitzpatrick
Sanchez
McCoy
Newton
Henne

Smart Money is Fitzpatrick... Sleeper is McCoy...

Risk level for the remaining in this order
Sanchez
Henne
Newton

UCLAbruin1
09-07-2011, 10:20 AM
I have the 12th pick in my non-ppr draft tomorrow. Should I do RB-WR for my 12-13 pick?

WR I kinda know who I want but for RB i'm a little confused.

How would you rank these guys: MJD, Turner, McCoy, DMC

bump

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 10:21 AM
Bump for advice. Really not feeling marcedes lewis at this point
If you were to keep marcedes and use a bench spot to stash kendricks who would you drop?
Bench:
Peyton
Shonn greene
Beanie wells
Mike tolbert
Austin collie
Robert meachem

Meachem is the only one there that I'd even risk dropping...

Can't believe the Jagwads flushed Garrard at the last second.

DA_MOSS
09-07-2011, 10:23 AM
bump

non ppr, I would go MJD, Turner, DMC, McCoy,

what WR are you looking at? I was the 10th pick in my non-ppr league and went MJD - Calvin Johnson

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 10:23 AM
bump

Standard Scoring:
Turner
McCoy
DMC (He's going to need time to get back up to speed after eye socket)
MJD


PPR Scoring system
McCoy
McCoy
MCCoy
MJD
DMC
Turner

UCLAbruin1
09-07-2011, 10:24 AM
Who should I start?
TEAM 1
QB: Cassell
RB:McFadden
RB:Blount
WR:Miles Austin
WR: A. Johnson
TE:Daniels
Flex: Greene?
K: Rackers
D: Chicago

Bench: Peyton, Fred Jackson, Bush, Cadillac, B. Lloyd, Sims Walker, Vinatieri, Oakland D

TEAM 2

QB: Matt Ryan
RB:AP
RB: MJD
WR:Welker
WR:Williams (TB)
Flex:Forte
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

Bench: Sam Bradford, Snelling, Spiller, Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, Nick Folk, Chiefs

Both leagues are PPR

Team 1 I would put in B. Lloyd instead of greene at flex

UCLAbruin1
09-07-2011, 10:28 AM
non ppr, I would go MJD, Turner, DMC, McCoy,

what WR are you looking at? I was the 10th pick in my non-ppr league and went MJD - Calvin Johnson

Depends who falls to the 12th pick but AJ, white, megatron, fitz ( in that order). Would it be a good idea to go WR-WR and grab two tier 1 guys?

MindHeist
09-07-2011, 10:29 AM
romo vs NYJ or Josh Freeman vs Lions?

Criisp
09-07-2011, 10:31 AM
romo vs NYJ or Josh Freeman vs Lions?

Freeman vs Lions for sure. Romo going up against Revis Island bro

Onita
09-07-2011, 10:34 AM
Team 1 I would put in B. Lloyd instead of greene at flex

I've been going back and forth between Greene, Lloyd, and Jackson. I also thought about sitting Austin, since he's against Revis and had health issues. I may be overthinking that one though.

DoiEvenLift
09-07-2011, 10:37 AM
QB: Romo at Jets or Stafford at Bucs?
Flex: Best at Bucs, Greene at Cowboys, or Hightower at NYG?
TE: Gronkowski at Miami or Cook at Jac?

DA_MOSS
09-07-2011, 10:38 AM
Depends who falls to the 12th pick but AJ, white, megatron, fitz ( in that order). Would it be a good idea to go WR-WR and grab two tier 1 guys?

IMO it really depends who's left on the board at RB and how highly YOU rate them. If you can go WR-WR and get 2, top 6 guys, then go for it. I personally go RB 1st round, but its really dependent on who is left obviously. If AJ is still on the board at 10, and you can guarantee getting one of your other 3 faves, then I would probably go that way..

ThaWorldIsYours
09-07-2011, 11:09 AM
should i trade rodgers for rivers?


why?

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Bump for advice. Really not feeling marcedes lewis at this point
If you were to keep marcedes and use a bench spot to stash kendricks who would you drop?
No need to keep Lewis at this point. The end of last year was the first time he did anything and without a real QB you are not going to get the same return.

Kendricks is a very good option for this weekend, but not all year. You are going to have to play matchups, which is very doable this year. I would work back and forth between Evan Moore, Kendricks and ED Dickson. No one will own any of those guys in your league and they arent going to drop one of their reserves to roster one of them till half way through the year.

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Stafford at Bucs?
Flex: Best at Bucs
Cook at Jac?

Guys, start posting if its ppr or not
see above
If its not ppr then go with hightower in the flex.

Idontlikeit
09-07-2011, 11:49 AM
Drop: Jared Cook (Ten)
Add: Lance Kendricks (StL)

should I do it?

sklz325
09-07-2011, 12:57 PM
0.5PPR

WR2:
sidney rice vs. SF
OR
amendola vs. Phi

TE:
zach miller vs. SF
OR
jared cook vs. Jac

dirtdickens
09-07-2011, 12:57 PM
Foster didnt practice again and Kubiak is talking crazy about who will fill in for him if he misses the game. If he doesnt go tomorrow he wont play

Laron Landry is out

Terrence Newman is out

Yeahbudday
09-07-2011, 01:08 PM
Alright so my friend sent me this trade:

Josh Freeman + Dez Bryant

for

Phillip Rivers

I have Phillip Rivers... should I pull the trigger on this trade

T2TL
09-07-2011, 01:14 PM
Alright so my friend sent me this trade:

Josh Freeman + Dez Bryant

for

Phillip Rivers

I have Phillip Rivers... should I pull the trigger on this trade

depends on your scoring and if you need WR help but it looks like a pretty decent deal to me. Freeman will be good enough to start without having to worry so if your WR core is shaky go for it. Only thing that would make me think about it is if you do 6 pts per passing td. Because in that format Rivers is just a monster

Yeahbudday
09-07-2011, 01:18 PM
depends on your scoring and if you need WR help but it looks like a pretty decent deal to me. Freeman will be good enough to start without having to worry so if your WR core is shaky go for it. Only thing that would make me think about it is if you do 6 pts per passing td. Because in that format Rivers is just a monster

4 pts per passing TD... non-PPR

My current WR's:

Greg Jennings
Marques Colston
Santana Moss
Braylon Edwards
Malcom Floyd

ThaWorldIsYours
09-07-2011, 01:24 PM
Alright so my friend sent me this trade:

Josh Freeman + Dez Bryant

for

Phillip Rivers

I have Phillip Rivers... should I pull the trigger on this trade


No way... Rivers is an elite QB, Freeman is a 3rd tier starter and Dez Bryant is a 2nd year guy who we have no idea what he'll do this year. I wouldn't deal Rivers, but if you really want to deal him, make sure and get back a more proven receiver than Dez.

biggquis
09-07-2011, 01:26 PM
I see lots of talk about drafting in a later position. Draft tonight, non-ppr 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flex.

I draft 9th. Here are my two options for first 3 picks which you guys think is better.

Option 1: mccoy/Mendy/mjd
then mcfadden/SJAX/Turner
then bow/mike williams

Option 2: mccoy/mendy/mjd
then roddy/larry fitz/ vjax
then bradshaw/hillis

So its basically do I go RB,RB,WR or RB,WR,RB obv it's all situational but I have a good feel for how people will be picked

I'd go NO. 2 all the way. I don't want McFadden, Sjax, or Turner anywhere near my team. I'd rather take a proven elite wideout than take a chance on those brittle/old backs. Let someone else gamble on them.

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 01:27 PM
No way... Rivers is an elite QB, Freeman is a 3rd tier starter and Dez Bryant is a 2nd year guy who we have no idea what he'll do this year. I wouldn't deal Rivers, but if you really want to deal him, make sure and get back a more proven receiver than Dez.

Agreed... Rivers is solid... This is a case where you shouldn't trade an Exclamation Point for Two Question Marks.

T2TL
09-07-2011, 01:27 PM
anyone starting Ingram either at RB2 or flex against GB this week? I'm a bit scared but am thinking about putting him in over Fred Jackson for the week.

Yeahbudday
09-07-2011, 01:33 PM
No way... Rivers is an elite QB, Freeman is a 3rd tier starter and Dez Bryant is a 2nd year guy who we have no idea what he'll do this year. I wouldn't deal Rivers, but if you really want to deal him, make sure and get back a more proven receiver than Dez.


Agreed... Rivers is solid... This is a case where you shouldn't trade an Exclamation Point for Two Question Marks.

Thanks... when I was on the phone with said friend and he offered the trade I told him to kiss my ass... but I just wanted to see what FF misc brahs thought :)

ThaWorldIsYours
09-07-2011, 01:34 PM
Brahs...


Does Steve Smith (CAR) have any value this year? I'm considering dropping him and taking a flyer on somebody. I have Mike Thomas and Mike Sims-Walker as my other bench recievers so I'm covered for bye weeks.

Some guys currently available in my league:

- Ronnie Brown (would grab him but I already have Stewart and Tate as my 2 guys who are 1 injury away from being huge values)
- Andre Roberts (intriguing guy)
- James Jones/Donald Driver (who will be the 3rd option in this high powered offense?)
- Delone Carter (big lottery ticket guy, personally i don't think he's worth a roster spot)
-Kevin Walter
- DeMarco Murray (see Ronnie Brown)
- Arrellious Benn
- MoMass
- Deji Karem (see Ronnie Brown & Murray)
- Tashard Choice
- Ricky Williams
- Kendall Hunter
- Jerome Simpson
- Brandon Gibson
- Jabar Gaffney



Guys in bold are the most intriguing to me

jonnyshap
09-07-2011, 01:34 PM
with peyton(on bench) ruled out, i just picked collins, and i have cutler as well... who do you think i should start?

Yeahbudday
09-07-2011, 01:38 PM
with peyton(on bench) ruled out, i just picked collins, and i have cutler as well... who do you think i should start?

Tough decision... Cutler would be the safe choice... We don't really know what Collins is capable of, but then again he is facing what was the worst secondary in football last season... although they have improved since then

T2TL
09-07-2011, 01:41 PM
I think I need to unload some WRs since it's non ppr and I have question marks at RB. Someone offered my Greene and Calvin for their Gore and DJax. I declined but am thinking about doing a similar deal. My Greene OR DWilliams and Calvin for their Mendenhall and DJax. What do you guys think?

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 01:44 PM
anyone starting Ingram either at RB2 or flex against GB this week? I'm a bit scared but am thinking about putting him in over Fred Jackson for the week.

I'm starting him at Flex in the my mod league... At 1 and 2 I'm starting Forte and Blount...

Hmmm... Maybe I should actually pay attention to my lineup in that league since I'm playing DeMike this week and I plan to beat him like I caught him stealing my bike!

biggquis
09-07-2011, 01:53 PM
Need 1 RB and 1 Flex:

Reggie Bush
Tim Hightower
Shonn Green
Julio Jones

non ppr

T2TL
09-07-2011, 01:57 PM
I'm starting him at Flex in the my mod league... At 1 and 2 I'm starting Forte and Blount...

Hmmm... Maybe I should actually pay attention to my lineup in that league since I'm playing DeMike this week and I plan to beat him like I caught him stealing my bike!

haha awesome, he won't stand a chance. I think I'll go with Ingram. Jackson won't go off for 20 points but Ingram could end up with 2 score, who knows.
If you have a chance what's your opinion on that trade? I asked on another forum and got some mixed concerns but most are leaning towards getting rid of Greene. I'm a Jets fan but he does scare me a ton as my RB1 and I think I want to hold onto Williams.


I think I need to unload some WRs since it's non ppr and I have question marks at RB. Someone offered my Greene and Calvin for their Gore and DJax. I declined but am thinking about doing a similar deal. My Greene OR DWilliams and Calvin for their Mendenhall and DJax. What do you guys think?

T2TL
09-07-2011, 01:58 PM
Need 1 RB and 1 Flex:

Reggie Bush
Tim Hightower
Shonn Green
Julio Jones

non ppr

would go Hightower and Greene just because its non ppr.

biggquis
09-07-2011, 02:08 PM
would go Hightower and Greene just because its non ppr.

That's who I have in my lineup now... I'm just having second thoughts about Reggie Bush. Miami will be down, so they'll probably pass a lot... he'll get plenty of checkdowns if this NE defense proves to be legit with the 4-3 scheme

Nainoa
09-07-2011, 02:24 PM
haha awesome, he won't stand a chance. I think I'll go with Ingram. Jackson won't go off for 20 points but Ingram could end up with 2 score, who knows.
If you have a chance what's your opinion on that trade? I asked on another forum and got some mixed concerns but most are leaning towards getting rid of Greene. I'm a Jets fan but he does scare me a ton as my RB1 and I think I want to hold onto Williams.

Both those are kind of questionable...

No matter what I think you have to hold on to Megatron... My psychic left elbow tells me he steps it up this year.

I'm worried about the value of DeSean Jackson... Sounds like his contract is on hold and in the situation of a WR, especially a small framed diva like him... Is that this tends to lead to a serious case of aligator arms

So then when we look at Mendy and Gore... Both have high mileage and both are a breakdown risk... Mendy is the only option... Gore is scar on scar at this point as he's transforming into human hamburger.


At this point I say ride the F-ing pony you're on... OR pursue those deals with a different receiver other than Megatron on the table.