Fantasy Football Think Tank

[JC-orginalbdass]

so I finished with the best record in the league and had a 1st round bye. I move into the semi-finals next week, and I need your help more than ever.

This is my planned starting lineup
Peyton Manning
Ray Rice
Ricky Williams
Santonio Holmes
Marcus Colston
Greg Olsen
Mason Crosby
Packers DST

Bench
David Garrard
Shonne Green
Portis (out)
Hakeem Nicks
Fred Davis
Jeff Reed
Pats DST

QUESTIONS:

How much do you think Peyton will play on Thursday, and should I start Garrard over him?

Should I start Fred Davis over Greg Olsen? Davis had 4 TDs in the past 3 games, and Olsen is hit or miss.

Pats DST against the Bills or GB DST against Pitt?

Should I start Hakeem Nicks over Holmes or Colston?

Any other tips?

[JC-orginalbdass]

does anyone have problems with some teams Hoarding QB's or RB's? there is one guy with 5 qb's in our league apparently hoarding as a dfense. What is your thoughts on Hoarding? ok or not?

A good league will have a cap/limit. We can only have a starting QB and backup QB.

[Nainoa]

does anyone have problems with some teams Hoarding QB's or RB's? there is one guy with 5 qb's in our league apparently hoarding as a dfense. What is your thoughts on Hoarding? ok or not?

I've been accused before of Hoarding Running backs...

But at the same time... I've had MULTIPLE seasons get screwed when I didn't have a chalk full stable of RB's, and it cost me a playoff run.

Yesterday was no exception... My Stable coming out of the draft:
Turner
J-Stew
D-Will
LJ
Shonne Greene
Slaton
Norwood

Now I had people coming out of the draft crapping up a light pole saying that I was hoarding RB's... But when I was forced yesterday to start J-Stew and D-Will, it did me no good.

My perspective is that if you're over-stabled in one position, then you're also going to be weak at another position.

^^^^Note my league is also balanced out by a salary cap and is a dynasty builder, so ignoring other positional talent for the sake of "Hoarding" up at one position ultimately costs you at other times in the future.

[bigbridrol]

Nainoa, I guess CJ didn't get that sophmore slump you were preaching about in the early season.

[Mistermidas]

I just wanted to chime n and say. Brandon Marshall just won me my first playoff game....most likely anyway. Score is 100-106, all he has is Gore left. But I have K.Warner, A.Boldin, AND Vernon Davis. If I lose I will be highly shocked, and highly pissed lol.

[clorox_me]

I just wanted to chime n and say. Brandon Marshall just won me my first playoff game....most likely anyway. Score is 100-106, all he has is Gore left. But I have K.Warner, A.Boldin, AND Vernon Davis. If I lose I will be highly shocked, and highly pissed lol.

did you end up losing? Gore had a monster game

[Loswaldo]

Damn it guys, I could have won this game week if I had gone with my instinctive picks. If I had gone withmy original RISK team I would have had:

Schuab, CJ, Ray Rice, Andre, Marshall, Davis, Cundiff and the GB Defence

But I went with security and chose

Aaron Rodgers, CJ, Mendenhall, Andre, V-Jax, Davis, Akers and GB Defence.

I lost out on 58 points with my team, with those 58 points I would have gone to the top of the Gameweek with 179 points, I only got 121. But positives are that is my highest game week. I have 4 game weeks in a row of scores over 100. So I am getting better with the picks.

[Mistermidas]

did you end up losing? Gore had a monster game

Hell yeah I did!! I was pppiiissseeddd!!! Gore had a good game, I kinda expected. But I thought Kurt would give me at least 15, Boldin would give me 10, and another 10 from Davis and I would won. Gore had 24 pts in my league. Davis gave me 9, Kurt gave me 2 points, and Boldin gave me 5....so damn gay, feels HORRIBLE man!! I shoulda started Rivers instead, but even then I still woulda lost by a few points since Rivers had 13 in my league....ugh shiit sucks so bad Kurt dissappeared on me when I needed him.

[Chris Partlow]

Need some help picking a player for a WR spot and a flex spot

For the WR spot:

Mike Sims-Walker

Michael Jenkins

For the flex spot:

Tim Hightower

Ryan Moats

Michael Jenkins

...not sure what the best choices would be. Probably not Jenkins for the flex spot.

[Nainoa]

so I finished with the best record in the league and had a 1st round bye. I move into the semi-finals next week, and I need your help more than ever.

This is my planned starting lineup
Peyton Manning
Ray Rice
Ricky Williams
Santonio Holmes
Marcus Colston
Greg Olsen
Mason Crosby
Packers DST

Bench
David Garrard
Shonne Green
Portis (out)
Hakeem Nicks
Fred Davis
Jeff Reed
Pats DST

QUESTIONS:

How much do you think Peyton will play on Thursday, and should I start Garrard over him?

Should I start Fred Davis over Greg Olsen? Davis had 4 TDs in the past 3 games, and Olsen is hit or miss.

Pats DST against the Bills or GB DST against Pitt?

Should I start Hakeem Nicks over Holmes or Colston?

Any other tips?


I would stick with Peyton... Sounds like they're going to play him out at least until they have the games in hand... And a Half from Peyton has got to be worth a full game from Garad.

Hard to say on the TE deal... Psychic Left Elbow says Olsen.

I would go GB DST... Pitt is lost and broken, and GB is hungry and one of the best D's in the league.

Psychic Left Elbow says Nicks and Colston

[Nainoa]

Need some help picking a player for a WR spot and a flex spot

For the WR spot:

Mike Sims-Walker

Michael Jenkins

For the flex spot:

Tim Hightower

Ryan Moats

Michael Jenkins

...not sure what the best choices would be. Probably not Jenkins for the flex spot.

I don't know that MSW is even healthy enough to play? So that forces Jenkins and then I say Hightower for Flex... I think Hightower is going to be hungry to avenge himself after last night's debacle.

[jason_bh]

Nainoa, I guess CJ didn't get that sophmore slump you were preaching about in the early season.

LOL. CJ had a couple of games in the beginning that had me believing Nainoa. Glad that he was wrong on this one.

BTW, I lead our league by 304 points over the second highest guy. The playoffs start this week for me. The guy that I am playing this week I beat by 46 points last week.

[Fabs23]

I don't know that MSW is even healthy enough to play? So that forces Jenkins and then I say Hightower for Flex... I think Hightower is going to be hungry to avenge himself after last night's debacle.

Last night was a debacle, the team I was playing I had beat by .50, he had no guys going, i had one guy left....Warner...I effen lost by .20. So much for getting extra points I should have taken a knee and sealed up the win.

[Gunnerfan]

Somehow, someway, I managed to make it to the 4-man playoffs in my 14-man league with THIS roster:

QB - Rivers
RB - Slaton
RB - Cadillac
RB - Sproles
RB - M. Bush
WR - Vinny Jackson
WR - Breaston
WR - Evans
WR - Santana Moss
TE - Clark
TE - Shockey
K - Folk
DEF - Green Bay

I had NO business beating some of the teams I did, but somehow I finished the season 9-5. I'm not really asking for advice, but if anyone can provide me some sort of miracle, that'd be great.

GF

[Chris Partlow]

I don't know that MSW is even healthy enough to play? So that forces Jenkins and then I say Hightower for Flex... I think Hightower is going to be hungry to avenge himself after last night's debacle.

Yeah, he was questionable until game time last week and only got 6 yards. I was hoping they would have to turn to him a lot more since they are playing Indy, but it looks like he wont be healthy. Thanks

[Fabs23]

Somehow, someway, I managed to make it to the 4-man playoffs in my 14-man league with THIS roster:

QB - Rivers
RB - Slaton
RB - Cadillac
RB - Sproles
RB - M. Bush
WR - Vinny Jackson
WR - Breaston
WR - Evans
WR - Santana Moss
TE - Clark
TE - Shockey
K - Folk
DEF - Green Bay

I had NO business beating some of the teams I did, but somehow I finished the season 9-5. I'm not really asking for advice, but if anyone can provide me some sort of miracle, that'd be great.

GF

Sounds like you had the right matchups on your team and right matchups on your opponent. Who was your first pick, Slaton? Just curious, where did you rank in fantasy points among the 14 team league. Just be happy to be there and go with your gut at this point. Either way nice job managing your players.

[Nainoa]

LOL. CJ had a couple of games in the beginning that had me believing Nainoa. Glad that he was wrong on this one.

BTW, I lead our league by 304 points over the second highest guy. The playoffs start this week for me. The guy that I am playing this week I beat by 46 points last week.

Little bit skewed on that one...

Early on CJ showed all the trappings of a player who was going to have a sophomore slump... Then they tailored the game plans to him and Vince Young.

And while his stat line might be pretty awesome... I still don't see a ton of the intellectual development needed for a long successful career beyond a game plan friendly scheme when he loses a step with age.

But thank god that worked out for you in this later part of the season.

Like I told my buddy... Better to start cold and finish hot than the other way around!

[c0ncept-2]

Need WR help:

Steve Smith (NYG), Robert Meachem, Anquan Boldin, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson (which two to sit, non-ppr - regular yahoo scoring)

[JC-orginalbdass]

Need WR help:

Steve Smith (NYG), Robert Meachem, Anquan Boldin, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson (which two to sit, non-ppr - regular yahoo scoring)

Hines Ward with a bum hamstring and Robert Meachem with too many other weapons around him.

[JC-orginalbdass]

Should I play GB DST against Pitt or NE DST against Buffalo?

GB is the number 1 defense in football, but NE is playing the God-awful Bills.

[Gunnerfan]

Sounds like you had the right matchups on your team and right matchups on your opponent. Who was your first pick, Slaton? Just curious, where did you rank in fantasy points among the 14 team league. Just be happy to be there and go with your gut at this point. Either way nice job managing your players.

Thanks man. Yeah, Slaton was my first pick - I decided to surprise and took him 7th while there was still a lot of talent on the board - D'Angelo or CJ would have looked much nicer I must say.

I finished 7th in points out of 14, so not nearly as bad as I should have been. What saved me was Green Bay's D, Dallas Clark, and the consistency of guys like Rivers and Jackson. The guy who looks to be heading to the final has Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, Reggie Wayne and Peyton Manning, so I've still got a lot of work to do!

[ezmac31]

allright misc brahs, help me out smei finals time coming off first round bye. I need you guys to help me pick 3/4 rbs and 2/3 wr.

sjax
jcharles
mendenhall
LT


Boldin
vjax
srice

all season ive benched charles and boldin, but this week they each get detroit and cleveland, so i think i am going to play them for vjax and mendenhall...is this a good move or should i roll with the squad that got me here since i have been playing them a lot of the time against who espn says i should play?

[ezmac31]

anyone? saltydog or bustermac in the house?

[c0ncept-2]

Steve Smith (NYG) v.s. WASHINGTON
or
Chris Chambers v.s. CLEVELAND

also, is Steven Jackson a good start this week? He had a slow two weeks, has been battling injury, and no QB if "Null" is playing. i've got knowshon moreno who could be getting all the carries with buckhalter out. MJD is my other starter no question

[ezmac31]

Steve Smith (NYG) v.s. WASHINGTON
or
Chris Chambers v.s. CLEVELAND

also, is Steven Jackson a good start this week? He had a slow two weeks, has been battling injury, and no QB if "Null" is playing. i've got knowshon moreno who could be getting all the carries with buckhalter out. MJD is my other starter no question

sjax is always a must start...he's their only weapon, is used in the passing game, and since theyre always losing he gets a lot of carries in garbage time since the D is backed off playing the pass...washington is towards the top of the league in pass d i would go with chambers

[bustermac]

anyone? saltydog or bustermac in the house?
Yo!



allright misc brahs, help me out smei finals time coming off first round bye. I need you guys to help me pick 3/4 rbs and 2/3 wr.

sjax
jcharles
mendenhall
LT


Boldin
vjax
srice

all season ive benched charles and boldin, but this week they each get detroit and cleveland, so i think i am going to play them for vjax and mendenhall...is this a good move or should i roll with the squad that got me here since i have been playing them a lot of the time against who espn says i should play?

Tough choice to sit Mendenhall or Jackson. LT has the lowest yardage lately but is scoring one or 2 TDs in the last 5 games (7 TDs in last 5). I think you have to bench Mendenhall actually...the Steelers have almost abandoned the run game and they're against the tougher D, Green Bay.

Can't bench Rice, especially with Harvin out. Boldin vs. Detroit is FAR better than Jackson vs. Cincy, plus he's been doing better lately anyways. Bonus with Breaston likely out or limited, so he won't be stealing any touches from Boldin. Bench Vincent Jackson.

[bustermac]

Steve Smith (NYG) v.s. WASHINGTON
or
Chris Chambers v.s. CLEVELAND

also, is Steven Jackson a good start this week? He had a slow two weeks, has been battling injury, and no QB if "Null" is playing. i've got knowshon moreno who could be getting all the carries with buckhalter out. MJD is my other starter no question

Chambers easily. Washington's D is solid.

[ezmac31]

Yo!




Tough choice to sit Mendenhall or Jackson. LT has the lowest yardage lately but is scoring one or 2 TDs in the last 5 games (7 TDs in last 5). I think you have to bench Mendenhall actually...the Steelers have almost abandoned the run game and they're against the tougher D, Green Bay.

Can't bench Rice, especially with Harvin out. Boldin vs. Detroit is FAR better than Jackson vs. Cincy, plus he's been doing better lately anyways. Bonus with Breaston likely out or limited, so he won't be stealing any touches from Boldin. Bench Vincent Jackson.

thanks, were on the same page so im gonna go with it...you advice has proven right before

[Loswaldo]

My Team for this week, may change it around but here it is:

QB- M. Schuab
RB- C. Johnson
RB- R. Rice
WR- A. Johnson
WR- B. Marshall
TE- V. Davis
K- B. Cundiff
Defence- Minnesota

Any changes needed, am I missing out on some big match-ups. Help is welcommed, just recommend me some players and I will see if the trade is viable. I have until 30 mins before Thursday Nights game.

[Human Rocket]

I have Cincinnati DEF and as they are playing San Diego this weekend and I think Phillip Rivers might just pick them apart. I feel like maybe I should pick up something off the waiver wire with a good matchup. Here are my options:

Tennessee vs. Miami
Dallas vs. New Orleans... Heh!
Chicago vs. Baltimore
NY Jets vs. Atlanta
Tampa Bay vs. Seattle
Houston vs. St. Louis
Washington vs. NY Giants
Atlanta vs. NY Jets
Cleveland vs. Kansas City
Kansas City vs. Cleveland
Oaklnad vs. Denver
Detroit vs. Arizona
Jacksonville vs. Indianapolis... Heh!
St. Louis vs. Houston

Do *any* of these stand out to you as really favorable matchups? Maybe Houston vs. St. Louis?

[chargerfn909]

Ok gents, I squeeked through to the playoffs with a rather schitty team. I need some thoughts on my 2nd RB and 2nd WR.

PPR- 12 man league-

QB- Brees
#1 RB- LT
#2 RB- Moats(@STL), C. Brown(@STL), Sproles(CIN), F. Jackson(NE) or I can pick up C. Jennings(@KC) off WW
#1 WR- M. Austin
#2 WR- Pierre Garcon (@JAC), Chris Chambers(CLE), or Mike Wallace (GB)
TE- Gates
K- Kaeding
D/ST- Saints

What do you guys suggest with my #2 RB and #2 WR.. Thanks

[DL Addict]

I have Cincinnati DEF and as they are playing San Diego this weekend and I think Phillip Rivers might just pick them apart. I feel like maybe I should pick up something off the waiver wire with a good matchup. Here are my options:

Tennessee vs. Miami
Dallas vs. New Orleans... Heh!
Chicago vs. Baltimore
NY Jets vs. Atlanta
Tampa Bay vs. Seattle
Houston vs. St. Louis
Washington vs. NY Giants
Atlanta vs. NY Jets
Cleveland vs. Kansas City
Kansas City vs. Cleveland
Oaklnad vs. Denver
Detroit vs. Arizona
Jacksonville vs. Indianapolis... Heh!
St. Louis vs. Houston

Do *any* of these stand out to you as really favorable matchups? Maybe Houston vs. St. Louis?

Maybe Houston. I have Cincy in one league, and I'm sticking with them. The matchup isn't great, but you never know...there's a reason why they have solid points and are ranked high weekly. If you can't do it, Houston would be my choice out of what you posted.

[bigbridrol]

Maybe Houston. I have Cincy in one league, and I'm sticking with them. The matchup isn't great, but you never know...there's a reason why they have solid points and are ranked high weekly. If you can't do it, Houston would be my choice out of what you posted.

I have cincy too, but they just gave up a ton of points and rivers is hot. I just benched them for houston, although do not drop them bc they have a nice matchup in 16

[DL Addict]

Ok gents, I squeeked through to the playoffs with a rather schitty team. I need some thoughts on my 2nd RB and 2nd WR.

PPR- 12 man league-

QB- Brees
#1 RB- LT
#2 RB- Moats(@STL), C. Brown(@STL), Sproles(CIN), F. Jackson(NE) or I can pick up C. Jennings(@KC) off WW
#1 WR- M. Austin
#2 WR- Pierre Garcon (@JAC), Chris Chambers(CLE), or Mike Wallace (GB)
TE- Gates
K- Kaeding
D/ST- Saints

What do you guys suggest with my #2 RB and #2 WR.. Thanks

#2RB...Fred Jackson IMO...unless the boobs in CLE say Jennings is their guy, I see it being some wacky tandem.

#2WR...Garcon for sure.

[chargerfn909]

#2RB...Fred Jackson IMO...unless the boobs in CLE say Jennings is their guy, I see it being some wacky tandem.

#2WR...Garcon for sure.


Those were the 2 I planned on going with. Scary thing is Lynch is running the ball better and I am scared he's wiggling his way back in the picture. -- I did read something saying Jennings will be the "starter", does that mean he gets 20 carries, or he just starts well I don't know.


Garcon is probably my safest best, just alittle scary with the talk of the Colts possibly resting the gunners after the first half or what not-- My second choice would be CC but Bowe returns this week so that should cut into his production..

[DL Addict]

Those were the 2 I planned on going with. Scary thing is Lynch is running the ball better and I am scared he's wiggling his way back in the picture. -- I did read something saying Jennings will be the "starter", does that mean he gets 20 carries, or he just starts well I don't know.


Garcon is probably my safest best, just alittle scary with the talk of the Colts possibly resting the gunners after the first half or what not-- My second choice would be CC but Bowe returns this week so that should cut into his production..

IMO...Wayne and Clark will get the most rest. Garcon is still young, so the experience will help him going into the playoffs...but, I'm not the coach. I doubt Bowe makes any serious contributions this week...but I still think Garcon is your best/safest bet.

I expect the NE/BUF to be cold and possibly snowy. That favors the RBs, and if BUF gets down, Fred will get more looks in the passing game. I don't like Lynch hanging around either, so I threw in the Jennings comment. If they are projecting him to start, he'd be worth a shot at least...you don't have many options.

[chargerfn909]

IMO...Wayne and Clark will get the most rest. Garcon is still young, so the experience will help him going into the playoffs...but, I'm not the coach. I doubt Bowe makes any serious contributions this week...but I still think Garcon is your best/safest bet.

I expect the NE/BUF to be cold and possibly snowy. That favors the RBs, and if BUF gets down, Fred will get more looks in the passing game. I don't like Lynch hanging around either, so I threw in the Jennings comment. If they are projecting him to start, he'd be worth a shot at least...you don't have many options.



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thanks bro. I will monitor the Jennings situation and make a game-time decision :p

[DL Addict]

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thanks bro. I will monitor the Jennings situation and make a game-time decision :p

FWIW...from Sportingnews FantasySource

C Jennings CLE

Dec. 12, 2009 - 1:36 p.m.
Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer speculates that the reason Chris Jennings didn't get much work in Week 13 was because of his sore shoulder.

Fantasy spin: Jamal Lewis has been on injured reserve for the last two games. In Week 13, Jennings got six touches while Jerome Harrison got 17. In Week 14, Jennings was the workhorse with 20 carries and Harrison touched the ball just nine times. Both these backs are going to get a chance and coach Eric Mangini will ride the hot hand. Even in plus matchups, it's hard to trust either one.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

[Mark004]

Alright boys, fantasy semi finals. PPR league, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Donovan Mcnabb @ San Fran
Tony Romo @ N.O

Pick 1 T.E
Dallas Clark @ Jax
Fred Davis @ Giants

Pick 2rbs,2wrs, 1wr/rb flex
WR's
Vincent Jackson @ Cinci
Tj Houshmandzadeh @ Tampa
Antonio Bryant @ Seattle
Josh Morgan @ Philli
Davone Bess @ Ten

RB's
Chris Johnson @ who cares
Frank Gore @ Philli
Jonathan Stewart @ Minny
Arian Foster @ Stl
Quinton Ganther @ NYG

Pretty Much VJ, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore are auto starts. Dallas clark has to go if they are gonna play their whole team for more than a quarter. Other than that, whats the word?

[DL Addict]

Alright boys, fantasy semi finals. PPR league, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Donovan Mcnabb @ San Fran
Tony Romo @ N.O

Pick 1 T.E
Dallas Clark @ Jax
Fred Davis @ Giants
I doubt CLark plays more than a half...and NYG giving up BIG points to the TE

Pick 2rbs,2wrs, 1wr/rb flex
WR's
Vincent Jackson @ Cinci
Tj Houshmandzadeh @ Tampa
Antonio Bryant @ Seattle
Josh Morgan @ Philli
Davone Bess @ Ten

RB's
Chris Johnson @ who cares
Frank Gore @ Philli
Jonathan Stewart @ Minny
Arian Foster @ StlFLEX
Quinton Ganther @ NYG

Pretty Much VJ, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore are auto starts. Dallas clark has to go if they are gonna play their whole team for more than a quarter. Other than that, whats the word?

Watch the Dallas Clark thing before tomorrow. He's a beast, coming off a 3td game...but playing time is an issue. NYG gives up huge points to the TE, especially as of late...so Davis isn't a bad play.

[bustermac]

Alright boys, fantasy semi finals. PPR league, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 for a td

Pick 1
Donovan Mcnabb @ San Fran
Tony Romo @ N.O

Pick 1 T.E
Dallas Clark @ Jax
Fred Davis @ Giants

Pick 2rbs,2wrs, 1wr/rb flex
WR's
Vincent Jackson @ Cinci
Tj Houshmandzadeh @ Tampa
Antonio Bryant @ Seattle
Josh Morgan @ Philli
Davone Bess @ Ten

RB's
Chris Johnson @ who cares
Frank Gore @ Philli
Jonathan Stewart @ Minny
Arian Foster @ Stl
Quinton Ganther @ NYG FLEX

Pretty Much VJ, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore are auto starts. Dallas clark has to go if they are gonna play their whole team for more than a quarter. Other than that, whats the word?

WR was tough. Morgan is ineffective, Bess is banged up. This left Bryant (HORRIBLE QB) and TJ Housh. Housh wins by default.

Ganther for flex. Stewart is sharing and not getting many carries, Foster's role is unknown even though he's starting. Ganther is playing great.

Davis could be huge against New Jersey, but you can't bench Clark. Indy's starters are expected to play regularly against Jacksonville. Either TE will be a great play.

[chargerfn909]

FWIW...from Sportingnews FantasySource

C Jennings CLE

Dec. 12, 2009 - 1:36 p.m.
Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer speculates that the reason Chris Jennings didn't get much work in Week 13 was because of his sore shoulder.

Fantasy spin: Jamal Lewis has been on injured reserve for the last two games. In Week 13, Jennings got six touches while Jerome Harrison got 17. In Week 14, Jennings was the workhorse with 20 carries and Harrison touched the ball just nine times. Both these backs are going to get a chance and coach Eric Mangini will ride the hot hand. Even in plus matchups, it's hard to trust either one.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

Done deal :)

[jonnyshap]

@ RB who would you play this week? PPR and Kick/Punt Return Yards

Ganther Vs Giants
Sproles VS Cinci

[chargerfn909]

@ RB who would you play this week? PPR and Kick/Punt Return Yards

Ganther Vs Giants
Sproles VS Cinci

Gotta go with Ganther because he's the main man right now... I HAVE a gut feeling Bolts are gonna run a few screen plays to Sproles bc the Bengals like to bring the pressure but that's just MY guess and not enough to play him over a starting RB.

[bustermac]

@ RB who would you play this week? PPR and Kick/Punt Return Yards

Ganther Vs Giants
Sproles VS Cinci

Ganther. I had to drop Sproles a while ago, no return yardage and no consistent production.

[spc425]

Alright Misc Fantasy Football Gods....need your advice for this week:

RB
Mendy vs GB (Tomlin will no longer take him out on third downs for Moore - more productivity but against a tough GB defense)
or
A Foster vs St Lou (had some touches last week but did well, still a cluttered backfield with no official word from Kub's)

WR
Wayne (hasn't been too productive over the past few weeks and the Colts may rest him in the 4th)
or
Nicks vs Wash (starting WR now)
or
Avant (still available on waivers) starting WR with Maclin out

TIA! Appreciate any comments!

[bustermac]

Alright Misc Fantasy Football Gods....need your advice for this week:

RB
Mendy vs GB (Tomlin will no longer take him out on third downs for Moore - more productivity but against a tough GB defense)
or
A Foster vs St Lou (had some touches last week but did well, still a cluttered backfield with no official word from Kub's)

WR
Wayne (hasn't been too productive over the past few weeks and the Colts may rest him in the 4th)
or
Nicks vs Wash (starting WR now)
or
Avant (still available on waivers) starting WR with Maclin out

TIA! Appreciate any comments!

Easy, Mendy (has clear role) and Wayne (playing, you can't bench him, plus no viable replacements...Nicks vs. tough D and Avant is a nonfactor for fantasy)

[Nainoa]

anyone? saltydog or bustermac in the house?

I guess I'm not sure I completely understand the question as in the number of guys at each position you should play?

[Nainoa]

Alright Misc Fantasy Football Gods....need your advice for this week:

RB
Mendy vs GB (Tomlin will no longer take him out on third downs for Moore - more productivity but against a tough GB defense)
or
A Foster vs St Lou (had some touches last week but did well, still a cluttered backfield with no official word from Kub's)

WR
Wayne (hasn't been too productive over the past few weeks and the Colts may rest him in the 4th)
or
Nicks vs Wash (starting WR now)
or
Avant (still available on waivers) starting WR with Maclin out

TIA! Appreciate any comments!

I agree on Mendy... And if Indy hadn't locked up their playoff spot, I would say Wayne... So in this case I have to say Nicks.

[Clide Whit]

For the first time this season I need some advice on my playoff roster this week. This is a PPR league as well and heres what I am deciding on:

WR(Pick 1):

Davone Bess @ Ten
Devin Hester @ Bal
Mario Manningham @ Was
Greg Camarillo @ Ten
Deion Branch @ TB

RB (Pick 2):

Fred Jackson @ NE
Arian Foster @ STL
Marshawn Lynch @ NE
Julius Jones @ TB
Chris Jennings @ KC

TE (Pick 1):
Greg Olson @ Bal
Jermichael Finley @ Pitt
John Carlson @ TB

[laxer32]

For the first time this season I need some advice on my playoff roster this week. This is a PPR league as well and heres what I am deciding on:

WR(Pick 1):
Mario Manningham @ Was

RB (Pick 2):
Fred Jackson @ NE
Arian Foster @ STL

TE (Pick 1):
John Carlson @ TB


Any other opinions out there?

[bustermac]

For the first time this season I need some advice on my playoff roster this week. This is a PPR league as well and heres what I am deciding on:

WR(Pick 1):

Davone Bess @ Ten
Devin Hester @ Bal
Mario Manningham @ Was
Greg Camarillo @ Ten Since Bess could be injured, only decent option at WR for you
Deion Branch @ TB

RB (Pick 2):

Fred Jackson @ NE
Arian Foster @ STL
Marshawn Lynch @ NE
Julius Jones @ TB
Chris Jennings @ KC

TE (Pick 1):
Greg Olson @ Bal
Jermichael Finley @ Pitt
John Carlson @ TB

Bolded picks.

[INGENIUM]

need some bb.com advice for my flex play...

I am starting Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore at RB...

for my flex, I need to decide between Joseph Addai @ JAX or Ladainian Tomlinson vs CIN

Caldwell says he is going to play his starters this week, so I am leaning towards Addai...

??

[jkeithc82]

need some bb.com advice for my flex play...

I am starting Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore at RB...

for my flex, I need to decide between Joseph Addai @ JAX or Ladainian Tomlinson vs CIN

Caldwell says he is going to play his starters this week, so I am leaning towards Addai...

??

Oh man ING you know what, I heard all those guys tore their ACL's so you'd probably just want to bench or drop them for this week. Damn, sorry man, good luck to you though.

[chargerfn909]

need some bb.com advice for my flex play...

I am starting Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore at RB...

for my flex, I need to decide between Joseph Addai @ JAX or Ladainian Tomlinson vs CIN

Caldwell says he is going to play his starters this week, so I am leaning towards Addai...

??

(NO HOMER)

LT.. He has gotten into the end zone 6 of the last 7 games, three of those games were 2 TD games.

Plus you wont have to worry about him gettin' yanked unless something really unlikely happens (a blowout either way)

[INGENIUM]

Oh man ING you know what, I heard all those guys tore their ACL's so you'd probably just want to bench or drop them for this week. Damn, sorry man, good luck to you though.
oh man...thanks, didn't know that. I will just put everyone on the bench then :D

[jkeithc82]

oh man...thanks, didn't know that. I will just put everyone on the bench then :D

Yeah sorry dude, tough break. Be glad you don't have Philip Rivers though. He dislocated his shoulder yesterday and isn't expected to play this week either.

:D

[DL Addict]

need some bb.com advice for my flex play...

I am starting Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore at RB...

for my flex, I need to decide between Joseph Addai @ JAX or Ladainian Tomlinson vs CIN

Caldwell says he is going to play his starters this week, so I am leaning towards Addai...

??

I'm with you on Addai. LT's only value will be a TD...his yardage will suck, and he gets no catches (for the most part) Even if Addai was playing the 1st half only...I'd probably still make that move.

[jonnyshap]

what do you guys thing of brandon marshall this weekend against oakland. Namdi will be covering him. I am thinking of benching him for Danny Armedelo (Stl, we get 1 point for every yard return, and 1 for 50, 3 for 100, 6 for 200) PPR league....he is the 3rd WR for them so PPR will help that.

[c0ncept-2]

what do you guys thing of brandon marshall this weekend against oakland. Namdi will be covering him. I am thinking of benching him for Danny Armedelo (Stl, we get 1 point for every yard return, and 1 for 50, 3 for 100, 6 for 200) PPR league....he is the 3rd WR for them so PPR will help that.

ya, ok

[chargerfn909]

what do you guys thing of brandon marshall this weekend against oakland. Namdi will be covering him. I am thinking of benching him for Danny Armedelo (Stl, we get 1 point for every yard return, and 1 for 50, 3 for 100, 6 for 200) PPR league....he is the 3rd WR for them so PPR will help that.

There is a good reason your red...Trollin' in the Fantasy section is about as pathetic as it gets.

[monsterBEN]

I hate Thursday games...


Dallas Clark @ Jac
or
Fred Davis vs NYG

[DL Addict]

There is a good reason your red...Trollin' in the Fantasy section is about as pathetic as it gets.

You mean you WOULDN'T bench a guy coming off a 21 catch, 200 yard and 2TD game?....I would if I had someone like Malcolm Kelly WAS, Greg Lewis MIN or Brandon Stokley DEN.

/sarcasm


To MonsterBEN... All reports out of Indy are that the starters are playing...that's good enough to start Clark with confidence this week. Next week...ask again. I like Davis' matchup...I'm using him with money on the line...but I couldn't bench Clark coming off a 3TD performance. Remember a couple/few years back when the Colts benched their starters for the final 3-4 weeks, and they got outed in the first round. Peyton won't let that happen again.

I expect their starters to play most of, if not all of, this weeks game. Then play a Half next week, then a series in week 17. They get the 1st round bye...so they shouldn't rest for 2-3 weeks before playing again.

[BigAl33]

So whats everyone's opinion on R.Moss? Should I start him over the likes of Megatron, V.Jackson or Chad Ochocinco?

[Mistermidas]

So whats everyone's opinion on R.Moss? Should I start him over the likes of Megatron, V.Jackson or Chad Ochocinco?

The real question is.....how in the hell did you manage to get all 4 of them on your team? You in a 4 team league or what??

[monsterBEN]

Moss over CJ.

[PontifexPanda]

Ok guys, lineup questions for the playoff semifinals this week.

I have 2 RB spots, 2 WR spots, and a flex spot to fill. I have:

RB's:
C. Benson vs. SD
J. Forsett vs. TB
M. Turner (Q) vs. NYJ
D. Sproles vs. Cin
A. Foster (P) vs. STL
C. Jennings (P) vs. KC

WR:
R. Wayne (P) vs. Jac
R. Meachem vs. Dal
R. Williams vs. NO
D. Avery vs. Hou
J. Jones vs. GB

So I'm counting out Turner, Sproles, Avery, and Jones from the start. At the 2 RB spots right now I have Benson and Forsett, but I'd like to work in one of the other guys. At WR i've got Wayne and Williams in with Meachem flexed.

Anyone got thoughts?

[GyM_RaT]

Got Manning, Clak, and MJD going right now for my championship game. This will either feel good or bad man by the nights end. My opponent only has Reggie Wayne going.

[GyM_RaT]

MJD is handling business right now. 2 TD's in the 1st half!!!

[pro11skj]

MJD is handling business right now. 2 TD's in the 1st half!!!

I remember draft day, my dad let MJD slide through his hands and he picked up like M. Turner . im laughing now because im playing him for the final spot in the playoffs and i have MJD.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm87/pro11skj/fgm.png

[blahblahblahh]

Just picked up Collie off of waivers to replace one of my decimated WRs of Burleson/Maclin/Hester, feels good. Just have to hope Cribbs and Breaston can do some damage as well.

[c0ncept-2]

I remember draft day, my dad let MJD slide through his hands and he picked up like M. Turner . im laughing now because im playing him for the final spot in the playoffs and i have MJD.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm87/pro11skj/fgm.png

same as my draft. i was #3 pick, peterson went first, then turner 2nd, i was glad to snatch jones-drew at #3. a lot of ppl in my league questioned it, but cant say it hurt me, finished 2nd in the league and now he's racking up 30 points tn for me in the semis

[chargerfn909]

This is a HORRIBLE start for me and the playoffs

Me- Garcon a WHOPPING 3 points

Opponent- D. Clark 28 points


FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU PIERRE!!!!

[c0ncept-2]

This is a decision thats really killing me

Steven Jackson v.s. Houston (he might have Keith Null at QB again, meaning Houston will stack every down since Null sucks)
or
Knowshon Moreno v.s. Oakland (weak run d that's given up huge points, buckhalter is likely out = all carries)

I know you can't sit your studs, ESPECIALLY in playoffs, but since SJax's productivity has been down the last 2 weeks and he's had a nagging injury for weeks I'm afraid to miss out on a gem in Knowshon

thoughts?

[awahl63]

This is a decision thats really killing me

Steven Jackson v.s. Houston (he might have Keith Null at QB again, meaning Houston will stack every down since Null sucks)
or
Knowshon Moreno v.s. Oakland (weak run d that's given up huge points, buckhalter is likely out = all carries)

I know you can't sit your studs, ESPECIALLY in playoffs, but since SJax's productivity has been down the last 2 weeks and he's had a nagging injury for weeks I'm afraid to miss out on a gem in Knowshon

thoughts?

Definitely start Knowshon. He's good for about 15-20 carries and a TD when Buckhalter is healthy. Now that Buckhalter is out I think we're looking at 125+ yards and 1-2 TDs

[Boarder03]

This is a HORRIBLE start for me and the playoffs

Me- Garcon a WHOPPING 3 points

Opponent- D. Clark 28 points


FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU PIERRE!!!!

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5930/week15semi.png

Be happy ur not my opponet

REppin the wildcat 8-)

[bustermac]

This is a HORRIBLE start for me and the playoffs

Me- Garcon a WHOPPING 3 points

Opponent- D. Clark 28 points


FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU PIERRE!!!!

This.

I started Garcon on one team, but Wayne on another. One of those matchups is going well for me. The Garcon team had my opponent with MJD!

[chargerfn909]

This.

I started Garcon on one team, but Wayne on another. One of those matchups is going well for me. The Garcon team had my opponent with MJD!

Most frusterating part is they WERE throwing the ball. I was at the gym, saw the score real quick and was like SaAAWEEET, Garcon has gotta have at least _1_ of those TD's and some yards etc.. Negative, every OTHER player for the Colts went off, except of course Pierre...GrRrRrR!! Now my other WR is M. Austin and I hope he goes off, yet not TOO bad because it's against my D (Saints)..I am F'd.

[Boarder03]

Most frusterating part is they WERE throwing the ball. I was at the gym, saw the score real quick and was like SaAAWEEET, Garcon has gotta have at least _1_ of those TD's and some yards etc.. Negative, every OTHER player for the Colts went off, except of course Pierre...GrRrRrR!! Now my other WR is M. Austin and I hope he goes off, yet not TOO bad because it's against my D (Saints)..I am F'd.

Man you gotta change out your D son... this weekend is going to be big for miles austin... saints are a good D...and will shut down witten and williams .... but they cant cover everyone and thats where austin comes in

The past couple games the saints have allowed some points...not saying there going to loose, but theres def potential for some points there. And if its a high scoring game thats tough on ur d.... never counter act ur own players!!..

Cowboys i hate im sorry, but i have miles austin and i think they will step up from all the bs thats been goin on...

[chargerfn909]

Man you gotta change out your D son... this weekend is going to be big for miles austin... saints are a good D...and will shut down witten and williams .... but they cant cover everyone and thats where austin comes in

The past couple games the saints have allowed some points...not saying there going to loose, but theres def potential for some points there. And if its a high scoring game thats tough on ur d.... never counter act ur own players!!..

Cowboys i hate im sorry, but i have miles austin and i think they will step up from all the bs thats been goin on...

It's not that the D is that good, its the fact they have 7 or 8 Defensive TD's.. So I bank on that lol.. I dont know which WW D I could swoop.. I am THINKING NE cause they face Buff, but other than that no clue..

[Boarder03]

yea but if they get interceptions then miles austin isnt playing good!! lol dont bring bad karma on ur self!

i see the saints being a high scoring game,

i would take NE... alotta s h i t has been talked over the week they usually step up...and buffalo is garbage.... and ne is due for a good win i think...idk about turnovers... but i see them keeping yards and points low...maybe some sacks and a fumble....

[INGENIUM]

need some bb.com advice for my flex play...

I am starting Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore at RB...

for my flex, I need to decide between Joseph Addai @ JAX or Ladainian Tomlinson vs CIN

Caldwell says he is going to play his starters this week, so I am leaning towards Addai...

??
went with Addai...didn't have a great game...about 10 pts. (PPR) doubt tomlinson does much better though

oh well...R. Wayne and D. Clark got me about 50 between them...

[jkeithc82]

went with Addai...didn't have a great game...about 10 pts. (PPR) doubt tomlinson does much better though

oh well...R. Wayne and D. Clark got me about 50 between them...

Dude, Tomlinson's not playing this weekend.

[BigAl33]

Im having a tough time pickinh my flex player, my choices are Megatron(Ari), Ochocinco(SD), P.Thomas(Dal) or J.Forsett (TB). I leaning on picking a Rb as they always give me points and the 2 wrs are hit and miss the last few weeks. Any advice?

[Woogiefied]

Im having a tough time pickinh my flex player, my choices are Megatron(Ari), Ochocinco(SD), P.Thomas(Dal) or J.Forsett (TB). I leaning on picking a Rb as they always give me points and the 2 wrs are hit and miss the last few weeks. Any advice?

I think Ocho is going to have a huge game in honor of Chris Henry. I also like Forsett as TB can't stop anybody on the ground, plus they play in the dome and he's a big part of the passing game. Either of those would be a good play with Ocho a bit better imho. Hope this helps.

[chargerfn909]

went with Addai...didn't have a great game...about 10 pts. (PPR) doubt tomlinson does much better though

oh well...R. Wayne and D. Clark got me about 50 between them...

LT won't stack up the yardage but I am willing to be he punches at least 1 TD in...league PPR? He should get a few catches for some decent yardage as well..

[FAH_Q]

Nainoa, just picked up Darby off of waivers in my money league. Right now mine and fcb1012's team is 9-4 and trying to wrap up first rd bye which is $150. One guy is 10-3 and one guy is 9-4 but he has Head to Head vs us.

The 9-4 guy just picked up Gado off waivers so i went in and picked up Darby after him just so he couldn't start him if Darby ends up starting. He had 5 receptions last game, 3 before that and 3 before that and had a 51 yard run last game as well.

Whats your psychotic left elbow tell you about which one is going to be the starter IF Jackson is out with swine flu?

Sorry i always ask the tough ones :)

[FAH_Q]

Got another tough one for you. Same league (16 team PPR with 2 flex spots)

My last flex spot is open for:

Quinton Ganther v NYG
Chris Jennings v Kansas City
Jason Snelling v Jets
Justin Fargas v Denver
Kenneth Darby v Houston

[Nainoa]

Got another tough one for you. Same league (16 team PPR with 2 flex spots)

My last flex spot is open for:

Quinton Ganther v NYG
Chris Jennings v Kansas City
Jason Snelling v Jets
Justin Fargas v Denver
Kenneth Darby v Houston


I gotta say snelling... Just because at Best Turner will be splitting reps, and they won't risk his ankle for goal line reps... While at the same time the Jet's D is vulnerable right up the gut... Which for a "Flex Spot Gamble" puts some green lights on snelling.

[chargerfn909]

I am skeptical on playing my Saint D tomorrow vs the 'Boys...

I CAN pick up the following off the WW:

NINERS@Philly
PATS@bills
TITANSvsMIA
SEAvsTB


I know nothing sounds GREAT but what do you guys think? Stick with Saints or pick up one of those?

[Nainoa]

I am skeptical on playing my Saint D tomorrow vs the 'Boys...

I CAN pick up the following off the WW:

NINERS@Philly
PATS@bills
TITANSvsMIA
SEAvsTB


I know nothing sounds GREAT but what do you guys think? Stick with Saints or pick up one of those?


If it was me I'd go pats at Bills.

[chargerfn909]

If it was me I'd go pats at Bills.

Thats what I am leanin' towards.. I think I am gonna do it, the deal breaker is I have M. Austin and I want him to GO OFF, so I can root for that to happen if I don't play the Saints lulz

[Nainoa]

Thats what I am leanin' towards.. I think I am gonna do it, the deal breaker is I have M. Austin and I want him to GO OFF, so I can root for that to happen if I don't play the Saints lulz

Well one thing you have to shake off is that whole "Rooting" factor. If you want to be successful, you have to go looking for the best possibilities and not just "What you want to see happen."

[chargerfn909]

Well one thing you have to shake off is that whole "Rooting" factor. If you want to be successful, you have to go looking for the best possibilities and not just "What you want to see happen."

No, I know.. Hell I hate the Cowboys, I do think Miles is gonna have a good game. It's just hard to want/believe thats going to happen to your own D..KNow what I mean?

[Cheekz]

im in a keeper league, someone just dropped kevin smith, should i pick him up for next year?

my other RBs:

steven jackson
matt forte
marion barber
ryan grant
quinton ganther
clinton portis (on my IR spot)

i desperately need to upgrade my RB/WR situation for next year. i have name value but not the production to go with it. will smith help me? he is younger than the RBs i have so im hoping i can get him before he gets good, but i dont know if that will eve happen lol. the only problem is that i only have 1 IR spot, so i would have to pick someone to drop if i get him, which would most likely be roy williams, or ganther if i wait until after this week

[saaltydog]

I am skeptical on playing my Saint D tomorrow vs the 'Boys...

I CAN pick up the following off the WW:

NINERS@Philly
PATS@bills
TITANSvsMIA
SEAvsTB


I know nothing sounds GREAT but what do you guys think? Stick with Saints or pick up one of those?

I have the Saints D and I'm riding them all the way. Romo has been known to be horrible in December and in big games. He is liable for 3 INT's.

Yeah the Saints have let up some point this season but they have been top in the league in turnovers and touchdowns. I believe they have 8 TD's as a defense. The second highest in the league is 4. There are games where they let the other team score 20 + points but still get me 20 points in fantasy.

They are the highest scoring D in Fantasy for a reason. I'm sticking with them.

[Cheekz]

pick 2:

steven jackson (vs HOU) (might miss the game with swine flu fuuuuu)
ryan grant (@ PIT)
marion barber (vs NO)
quinton ganther (vs NYG)
matt forte (vs BAL)
i can also pick up arian foster off the wire

and pick 1:
dwayne bowe (vs CLE)
michael crabtree (@ PHI)
roy williams (vs NO)
am considering picking up antonio bryant (vs SEA)

standard scoring, non PPR

also, doesnt really matter because the guy i am playing has brees, chris johnson and ray rice and already had dallas clark (21 pts). but i would at least like to say i tried my best

[monsterBEN]

I wont have computer access until tomm afternoon so I have to set my lineups for good now..


Calvin Johnson is Questionable (knee)


Would you take your chances on him playing or take it safe? My options are:

A. Bryant @ Sea
C. Chambers vs Cle
B. Edwards vs Atl

[blahblahblahh]

Quick Question:

Grant vs. Pit
or
Beanie Wells vs. Det

Wells obviously has way more upside here, but he fumbles like crazy. League is non-ppr, 1pt/10yds.

[saaltydog]

Quick Question:

Grant vs. Pit
or
Beanie Wells vs. Det

Wells obviously has way more upside here, but he fumbles like crazy. League is non-ppr, 1pt/10yds.

Wells

[chargerfn909]

Boy did I fuk up...Went with the Saint D.. ANd Brees......COME ON MAN!! He picked a bad week to suck considering its the playoffs for me lol

[Cheekz]

yeah im playin against brees and im lovin it now but i just have a feeling hes gonna explode pretty soon

[Boarder03]

booo yaaa

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5350/booya.jpg


YEAAAAAA BRAH !!!

[saaltydog]

Boy did I fuk up...Went with the Saint D.. ANd Brees......COME ON MAN!! He picked a bad week to suck considering its the playoffs for me lol

Same here I also had Brees and the Saints D. I don't feel bad though. They got me to where I'm at. I had to start both of them.

Like you said though both Brees and the D picked a really bad week to blow.

[GyM_RaT]

My Opponent had Brees, Meachem, and Wayne so far while I had Manning, Clark, MJD, and Colston. Score is 91-39

FEELS GOOD MAN!!!

[Cheekz]

feels good man now i have a shot at winning! lol

[PotKettleBlack]

I'm starting a Cleveland Brown today. Groundbreaking stuff... Never thought I'd see the day!

[Boarder03]

nice who you startin?

[bigbridrol]

damn I was hopin the NFL would take Breess only TD pass away bc at first it looked like a backward pass. Oh well

[PotKettleBlack]

nice who you startin?
Chris Jennings, just because I like his matchup, and I actually like what the Browns did last week, and I'm willing to take a risk when I'm this far ahead in my match already.

[dacster8]

Chris Jennings, just because I like his matchup, and I actually like what the Browns did last week, and I'm willing to take a risk when I'm this far ahead in my match already.

oh lawd I bet your just as frustrated as I am. started Chris Jennings also and Harrison goes for 280 yards and 3 touchdowns. FUUUUUUUU. Mangini can go to hell

[dixie_normus]

31-69 currently.


FML.

my highest scorer right now is gates with 9.

[mAssholio]

Started Ray Rice over Jerome Harrison because I didnt know he was starting.

FML

Now it's only 3rd or 4th place

[GatorsIn09]

im on the left. things are lookin good, i really hit the jackpot with wells, maroney. really **** the bed on starting hasselcrap, but i had VY on the bench. Miami looked good last week and he was hurt. but then he throws down 25 points. That woulda sealed it for me...
http://i46.tinypic.com/15z1155.jpg

[TrainOfThought]

Going to the ship' in both of my leagues!

yeahh baby.

Special thanks to Charles, D. Jackson, P. Manning and VJ!!

[Cheekz]

pulled off the upset of the year this week, my opponent was projected to get 131 points, had brees chris johnson and ray rice. i had no expectations of anything besides a blowout and i pulled off a win. feels great man. the team im playin next week scored 171 this week though lol (standard league). based on matchups though i should be able to get him. (his only qb is peyton, and he has reggie wayne too, im really hopin they dont play next week)

[ezmac31]

what are the odds tynes gets me 13 and sends me into the finals? fuuuuuuuu!!

[jason_bh]

Wow, I won this week with a 2.37 point margin. Next week for all the marbles. :)

[kethnaab]

my 2 money leagues:

I'm up by 2 points in one, I have London Fletcher, he has Mathias Kiwanuka left

I'm down by 7 points in the other, I have London Fletcher and Andre Carter, he has Rocky McIntosh

hoboy...I need ole' man London to man up and pop off a 20-solo game! :D

[Nainoa]

Wow, I won this week with a 2.37 point margin. Next week for all the marbles. :)

Nice... Congrats...

I'm out on everything... But I did win "Bald Bowl" a "For Fun" game I did with another guy in my league who's cue-ball bald... Loser has to shave the winners head.

[kethnaab]

bald bowl...ha...

how'd you manage to go down Nai? You had a damn strong team if I remember correctly?

[Nainoa]

bald bowl...ha...

how'd you manage to go down Nai? You had a damn strong team if I remember correctly?

RB's for the playoff run were:
Turner
D-Will
J-Stew
Slaton
Shonn Greene
So it's safe to say the injury bug bit me HARD, and then the bite got infected.

And the guy I was playing Last week had:
Ray Rice
Jamal Charles
Schaub
Philly D

Just ended up being too deep a ditch for me, to crawl out of while he was chucking rocks down on my head.

[Nainoa]

One bright spot...

My Potential Keepers for next year...

I can pick any 6... ($500 salary cap)

Matt Ryan $46
D-will $10
J-Stew $50
Shonn Greene $8
Vincent Jackson $8
S. Smith (NYG) $7
Miles Austin $7
Vernon Davis $3
A-Gonz $55

Right now I'm thinking the safe roll is

Ryan
D-Will
V-Jax
Austin
Vernon

And then either Shonn Greene or Steve Smith, depending on if the Jet's Show T-Jones the door or not.

RB and WR pool for next year is very Talent Rich with big names, but also a lot of guys coming in with big bucks.

[kethnaab]

RB's for the playoff run were:
Turner
D-Will
J-Stew
Slaton
Shonn Greene
So it's safe to say the injury bug bit me HARD, and then the bite got infected.

Gaddayam! No ****! 3 of your top 4 were either out or nearly out.

Wow. Ouch. :(


One bright spot...

My Potential Keepers for next year...

I can pick any 6... ($500 salary cap)

Matt Ryan $46
D-will $10
J-Stew $50
Shonn Greene $8
Vincent Jackson $8
S. Smith (NYG) $7
Miles Austin $7
Vernon Davis $3
A-Gonz $55

Right now I'm thinking the safe roll is

Ryan
D-Will
V-Jax
Austin
Vernon

And then either Shonn Greene or Steve Smith, depending on if the Jet's Show T-Jones the door or not.

RB and WR pool for next year is very Talent Rich with big names, but also a lot of guys coming in with big bucks.

who can you grab at QB? I can't see Matt Ryan being worth that much. I think you're overrating him as a fantasy QB. LOVE the other picks though. For how cheap they are, why not grab both SSmith and Shonn Greene, and then that leaves you your entire roster + backups, for a grand total of $43, then you can bid big $$$ on a QB.

Won't Rivers be up for bid? He was yours and you had to drop him right? Or was that last season? I seen to recall you having Rivers.

[PotKettleBlack]

Good, my horribly inconsistent team comes back to haunt me! I was up by 40ish going into the second week of my playoff game, and now he has Kevin Boss who can score 15 to tie, and more to win, obv. Unlikely, perhaps, but damn, not enjoying that I'm only still ahead because he had DAW get injured...

Hopefully though, I can make it 3 bowl games from three leagues played this year. Up by 23, with Boss on nfl.com vs. Nicks, and in my PPR league I'm up by about 35.5 with only Santana Moss left to play for him. So I should be in 2.

Yet again thanks almost entirely to this section, and this thread. Cheers guys.

[Nainoa]

Gaddayam! No ****! 3 of your top 4 were either out or nearly out.

Wow. Ouch. :(



who can you grab at QB? I can't see Matt Ryan being worth that much. I think you're overrating him as a fantasy QB. LOVE the other picks though. For how cheap they are, why not grab both SSmith and Shonn Greene, and then that leaves you your entire roster + backups, for a grand total of $43, then you can bid big $$$ on a QB.

Won't Rivers be up for bid? He was yours and you had to drop him right? Or was that last season? I seen to recall you having Rivers.


Yeah Rivers is at the end of his contract for me.

So "For Now" Ryan is the Heir Apparent.

Next year the talent pool is rich and the pockets of the biggest of the "Big Spender" owners are full, and they're hungry to rebuild quickly.

There will be 5 guys (All big spenders) looking for a new starting QB.

High end QB pool will be something like:
Rodgers or Peyton Manning (One guy owns both but won't keep both etc...)
Rivers
Brady
Brees
Romo

RB Talent pool will look something like:
Turner
Adrian Peterson
S-Jax
Westy
LT
Marion Barber
Portis
Gore
Ronnie Brown
Forte

WR Pool
Fitzy
Andre Johnson
Megatron
Boldin
Randy Moss
Steve Smith
H. Ward
Roddy white
Colston OR Welker

So I've kind of got a deeper WR or RB pool to draw from, where a deal on a high end guy might fall through the cracks... Versus paying $90 for someone like Romo.

But I'll have to see how things shake out... If T-jones leaves NYJ, then I absolutely have to keep Shonn Greene, and that probably shows Ryan the door.

[kethnaab]

Yeah Rivers is at the end of his contract for me.

So "For Now" Ryan is the Heir Apparent.

Next year the talent pool is rich and the pockets of the biggest of the "Big Spender" owners are full, and they're hungry to rebuild quickly.

There will be 5 guys (All big spenders) looking for a new starting QB.

High end QB pool will be something like:
Rodgers or Peyton Manning (One guy owns both but won't keep both etc...)
Rivers
Brady
Brees
Romo see, dump Ryan, keep SS and Greene, and pour your $$$ into your QB

RB Talent pool will look something like:
Turner
Adrian Peterson
S-Jax
Westy avoid
LT avoid
Marion Barber buy low
Portis avoid
Gore
Ronnie Brown avoid
Forte buy low

WR Pool
Fitzy
Andre Johnson dump the $$$ here as well
Megatron
Boldin avoid, he'll be too costly and he misses too many games
Randy Moss
Steve Smith
H. Ward
Roddy white
Colston OR Welker [b]not a PPR league, Welker won't be worth it to you

So I've kind of got a deeper WR or RB pool to draw from, where a deal on a high end guy might fall through the cracks... Versus paying $90 for someone like Romo.

But I'll have to see how things shake out... If T-jones leaves NYJ, then I absolutely have to keep Shonn Greene, and that probably shows Ryan the door.

i hear ya, but if you keep all those dudes, you have a damn solid starting lineup for $43, just need a QB. Let's say you drop $100 on a guy like Brees and another $100 on a guy like Andre Johnson (just throwing examples out there). That's $243 for some of the highest scoring guys going.

I dunno man. Just not confident in Ryan as a $40+ guy is all.

[Nainoa]

i hear ya, but if you keep all those dudes, you have a damn solid starting lineup for $43, just need a QB. Let's say you drop $100 on a guy like Brees and another $100 on a guy like Andre Johnson (just throwing examples out there). That's $243 for some of the highest scoring guys going.

I dunno man. Just not confident in Ryan as a $40+ guy is all.

Yeah there's also the thought of keeping J-stew, as D-will is in a contract year and all...

Also the possibility that I "Might" be able to package SS and Miles Austin for a $6 Rashard Mendenhall in an off season trade deal.

[kethnaab]

the Mendy deal is a nice $$ saver and will make your keeper situation much better

Stewie's pretty expensive though, comparatively.

[Nainoa]

the Mendy deal is a nice $$ saver and will make your keeper situation much better

Stewie's pretty expensive though, comparatively.

Yeah and the Mendy owner (Who also has Donald Brown) is only going to consider that deal if Addai gets show the door in Indy.

So there's kind of a lot of dynamic variables.

I'd also thought about dropping Vernon Davis out just because every tight end (Except Dallas Clark) is being tossed back into the pool. (There was a sloppy run on tight ends that sent them all over priced... So can I get Vernon Davis, or a Witten or T-Gonz or Celek, or Gates for as cheap as I have Vernon now... ? Most likely not... But I should still be able to get a good deal, and could potentially give Vernon's spot in the 6 to someone else.

******

I think J-Stew would only be worth keeping if by some bizare stretch of the imagination Carolina can't get a deal done with D-will and he jumps ship to another team thus handing the Reigns in Carolina to J-Stew.

[c0ncept-2]

Going to the championships. Thank you Big Ben for 500 yards and 3 TDs, his play was scaring me lately but he's the definition of clutch. My opponent has Manning and Colston, what are the odds they spend some time on the bench next week?

[dixie_normus]

my bench outscored my starters by over 60 points.

37 - 110

WOW FML

[kethnaab]

I'd also thought about dropping Vernon Davis out just because every tight end (Except Dallas Clark) is being tossed back into the pool. (There was a sloppy run on tight ends that sent them all over priced... So can I get Vernon Davis, or a Witten or T-Gonz or Celek, or Gates for as cheap as I have Vernon now... ? Most likely not... But I should still be able to get a good deal, and could potentially give Vernon's spot in the 6 to someone else.


TEs aren't keepers, but it's tempting to hold onto him. He is, at the very least, one of the best in the league and he's cheap right now. How long do you have him for?
******


I think J-Stew would only be worth keeping if by some bizare stretch of the imagination Carolina can't get a deal done with D-will and he jumps ship to another team thus handing the Reigns in Carolina to J-Stew.

is DWill's contact THIS season or next?

[c0ncept-2]

Who to start (1) between: Steve Smith (NYG) vs. carolina, Hines Ward vs. baltimore (i have big ben), or Robert Meachem vs. tampa

Also, what are some guesses on Steven Jackson's upcoming performance vs. arizona?

[Back Double Biceps18]

Who to start (1) between: Steve Smith (NYG) vs. carolina, Hines Ward vs. baltimore (i have big ben), or Robert Meachem vs. tampa

Also, what are some guesses on Steven Jackson's upcoming performance vs. arizona?

Depends how many plays Meachem and Brees will be playing, might be shutting it down early and I'm sure Lance Moore will be getting some play calls to get him ready for the playoffs.

Toss up really between Smith and Ward, both very similar numbers. Baltimore is going to be playing hard for their playoff spot. I dunno, kind of feeling Ward right now for some reason. Ben just threw for how many yards? lol I see them throwing alot against them.

Steve Jackson has the herniated disk in his back but he has been playing okay. I think he'll be fine against Arizona actually, he is still running hard, and I mean they don't have very many options.

[kethnaab]

Ward is gimpy, he apparently had some hamstring issues that flared back up after the game

keep an eye on the injury report for him, if he is listed as questionable up until gametime and is a gametime decision, it might be a pretty risky play to put him in there

[c0ncept-2]

I will have to keep an eye on his status. Forgot to mention I have Chris Chambers as well, I've never actually started him (got him 3 weeks ago), but he had a good game last week with Bowe back taking coverage off him. Is he worthy of a start this week? My league starts 3WRs, and I obviously have Andre and Anquan as my top 2 no doubt. For TE's I've been riding with Dallas Clark every week. Should I worry now with his possible limited playing time? Revis will definitely be covering Wayne, so maybe its worth a start even if he only plays the first half since Clark is capable of 60 yards and TD in that span. TE's on the waiver wire are Olsen, Boss, Finley, Heap, and Miller

[kethnaab]

Jermichael Finley, only because of the Colts' possible benching of starters

[Nainoa]

TEs aren't keepers, but it's tempting to hold onto him. He is, at the very least, one of the best in the league and he's cheap right now. How long do you have him for?
******


is DWill's contact THIS season or next?

I can have Vernon for 2 more seasons beyond this...

At the start of the season I heard one of those Fantasy Speculation shows talk about how D-will should play hard because he was on the last year of his rookie contract.

Now those guys could have been Completely wrong, and I'd have no way to double check them etc...

[BigAl33]

Why is Espn projecting P.Thomas to get 22 points and J.Charles only 6? Shouldn't Charles be the safer pick to start and get more points?

[Human Rocket]

I had four teams in the Yahoo leagues this year. Three made the playoffs and of those three one made the finals. Here's what I got:

QB - Aaron Rodgers
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Donald Driver
RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Cedric Benson
TE - Jermichael Finley
K - Lawrence Tynes
DEF - Arizona

Here's what my opponent has got:

QB - Ben Rothlisberger
WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - DeSean Jackson
RB - Chris Johnson
RB - Beanie Wells
TE -Dallas Clark
K - Rob Bironas
DEF -Baltimore

Yahoo projects 109.02 pts for me and 109.22 pts for him. I think if Aaron Rogers blows up again then I'm good to go. Otherwise, not so much.

[blahblahblahh]

I feel like he is going to destroy you.

[c0ncept-2]

OK, finalizing the lineup

1)Big Ben (@home, vs Ravens) OR Alex Smith (@home, vs Lions)

2)Dallas Clark (@home, vs Jets) OR Jermichael Finley (@home, vs Seahawks)

3)Pittsburgh Defense, or pick up one of the following off waivers: Buffalo, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina

[Gunnerfan]

Thanks to my opponent picking up Arian Foster last weekend, I find myself an unlikely finalist this weekend. My opponent has been pretty dominant all year...here's the matchup:

Me

Phil Rivers
Michael Bush
Cadillac Williams
Vincent Jackson
Justin Gage
Santana Moss
Dallas Clark
Lawrence Tynes
Green Bay's D

Bench
Breaston
Lee Evans
Sproles
Todd Heap
Leonard Weaver


His Starters
Matt Schaub
Frank Gore
Chris Johnson
Quinton Ganther
Austin Miles
Reggie Wayne
Dave Thomas
Dan Carpenter
Atlanta's D


So yeah...I'm looking at an uphill battle, but that's been the case right through the last 5 weeks. Any suggestions to my lineup?

Also, just for the record I lost both Slaton and Ronnie Brown to injury.

Thanks - GF

[Gunnerfan]

I had four teams in the Yahoo leagues this year. Three made the playoffs and of those three one made the finals. Here's what I got:

QB - Aaron Rodgers
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Donald Driver
RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Cedric Benson
TE - Jermichael Finley
K - Lawrence Tynes
DEF - Arizona

Here's what my opponent has got:

QB - Ben Rothlisberger
WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - DeSean Jackson
RB - Chris Johnson
RB - Beanie Wells
TE -Dallas Clark
K - Rob Bironas
DEF -Baltimore

Yahoo projects 109.02 pts for me and 109.22 pts for him. I think if Aaron Rogers blows up again then I'm good to go. Otherwise, not so much.

Your players are a tad more consistent I think - you know you'll get some good points out of Rodgers, Johnson and Jackson, and hopefully Brees finds Colston a few times this weekend.

You always gotta be careful of a team with guys like CJ and Moss on it, though. I think it's going to be a photo finish.

[Loswaldo]

This weeks team shoulde better than last week. I hope:

Aaron Rodgers
Chris Johnson
Ray Rice
Andre Johnson
Vincent Jackson
Vernon Davis
Garret Hartley
Green Bay Defence.

My 6 week run of scores of 100+ came to an end with a score of 98 last week. So need to pick it up again. There is now no chance of me finishing 1st overall. But may have a chance of finishing in the top 100, if I get 2 scores of 150+

[druber]

Pick 3
Chris Johnson vs SD
Ray Rice at Pit
Steven Jackson at Ariz
Ryan Grant vs SEA

[TopsecretWaffle]

pick 3 for my championship match. PPR with return yard points

welker vs Jags
colston Vs Buccs
m austin @ Skins
D mason @ Steelers

[gta95]

Need some helping picking 3 for semi-final game. PPR + return points

kc dwayne bowe @ cin
atl michael jenkins vs buf
was santana moss vs dal
chi johnny knox vs min
cle joshua cribbs vs oak

FAs im considering

oak chaz schilens @ cle
mia greg camarillo vs hou

[ZidaneValor]

Damn, I made it to the championship game for the first time in five years, and my opponent had Chris Johnson, LT, Gates, AND V-Jack, lol. Since Kaeding is my kicker, I'm only down 62.9 to 6 right now, lol.

[PotKettleBlack]

Three leagues, three bowl games. Not that confident about them all, two are just based on week 16, and one is over both weeks. I'll keep you updated.

PPR league question, how viable do you think LeSean McCoy is now Westbrook is back in the fold? I've picked up Jerome Harrison as he obv dominated last week, and faces Oakland this week to fill in the final flex spot, but it's between these two?

[spc425]

Damn, I made it to the championship game for the first time in five years, and my opponent had Chris Johnson, LT, Gates, AND V-Jack, lol. Since Kaeding is my kicker, I'm only down 62.9 to 6 right now, lol.

Haha...I feel you. My opponent had Rivers, Gates and Chris Johnson...I'm only down 59 - 0.

[Back Double Biceps18]

Three leagues, three bowl games. Not that confident about them all, two are just based on week 16, and one is over both weeks. I'll keep you updated.

PPR league question, how viable do you think LeSean McCoy is now Westbrook is back in the fold? I've picked up Jerome Harrison as he obv dominated last week, and faces Oakland this week to fill in the final flex spot, but it's between these two?

Leonard Weaver has already been cutting into his touches, with Westbrook back, I don't see McCoy being used much. You'll probably want to start Jerome Harrison.

[PotKettleBlack]

Leonard Weaver has already been cutting into his touches, with Westbrook back, I don't see McCoy being used much. You'll probably want to start Jerome Harrison.
Fair enough, cheers. McCoy has actually been pretty useful, since it's a fairly deep league, so anyone who can produce at least somewhat reasonable output is welcome! Obv I'm thrilled that I picked Steve Slaton really high, possibly with my first rounder, I can't remember, and as such have been struggling for RBs all year!

[c0ncept-2]

OK, finalizing the lineup

1)Big Ben (@home, vs Ravens) OR Alex Smith (@home, vs Lions)

2)Dallas Clark (@home, vs Jets) OR Jermichael Finley (@home, vs Seahawks)

3)Pittsburgh Defense, or pick up one of the following off waivers: Buffalo, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina

BUMP

any thoughts?

[xzp]

Final adjustments, advice?


Snelling vs Buffallo

OR

Reggie Wayne vs NYJ

PPR. I really don't know who to pick....everyone says that Wayne's gonna get benched early, but with Garcon out I think he'll play the entire game. The whole Revis thing is over-rated.

help!

[OrdoAbchao]

Final adjustments, advice?


Snelling vs Buffallo

OR

Reggie Wayne vs NYJ

PPR. I really don't know who to pick....everyone says that Wayne's gonna get benched early, but with Garcon out I think he'll play the entire game. The whole Revis thing is over-rated.

help!

Snelling! Turner is out and facing the 3rd worst rush defense in the league plus i think crappy weather conditions get snelling a solid amount of work/goal line carries for sure.

Oh yeah Wayne will have Revis on his ass as well.

[BigAl33]

So whats the deal with week 17? Do alot of starters sit? This is my first season and was wondering what to know with regards to resting a team come playoff time.

[dixie_normus]

Should I start Rice or Harvin tomorrow?

I am down 3 and he has Shinacoe yet to play..

[JC-orginalbdass]

Should I start Rice or Harvin tomorrow?

I am down 3 and he has Shinacoe yet to play..

I'd say Rice.

[Human Rocket]

I feel like he is going to destroy you.

And you were right! When I saw that the Packers put up 48 against the Seahawks, I was kind of excited then I found out Aaron Rogers only threw one TD and it didn't go to Driver. Sucks to be me to have such a favorable matchup not produce much fantasy production for my guys...

Oh well, I'll take my 2nd place trophy and go home now...

[gainmusclefast]

im up by 60 and guy im playing has adrian peterson and the vikings defense, championship here i come!

[Loswaldo]

I scored 101 this week, not too bad:

Aaron Rodgers- 10
CJ- 23
Ray Rice- 15
Vincent Jackson- 7
Andre- 13
Vernon Davis- 7
Garrett Hartley- 5
Green Bay Defence - 21

Just thinking if I had picked a better WR corps and went with my Schuab for a 3rd week running and Randy Moss. I would have had 120. But there have been so many times where my original picks or the ones I thought wouldn't make it, do well. So I have 1 more week where I can go all out, try and win a game week and get entered in the draw for the main prize.

No way of winning the tournament overall but that had died out in week 11ish.

[Nainoa]

Even though I didn't make it to the fantasy bowl my Padawan Learner / FF apprentice just won his first championship last week, 110% on my advice and that key Brent Celek trade I sent his way after Owen Daniels went down on him.

So there is a little bit of a moral victory in it for me.

[PotKettleBlack]

Well, my NFL.com team got dumped 116-81. Lowest score I've recorded all season, since the first week, which was with the pure autodraft team, I tinkered afterwards.

Shame, Steven Jackson didn't play at all, which I didn't know until it was too late, and my usually reliable WRs didn't really produce at all, but meh. Won my PPR league, which is nice, because that was probably the most difficult of all, as that was where people knew what they were doing.

ESPN league is still going, as its over two weeks, so we'll see. I've managed to accrue a team of players who will all be starting, pretty much next week, and playing at least the vast majority, since their playoff situations aren't sealed, so that's an advantage I have.

My opponent has a lot of Saints' starters, do you guys even think Brees, etc will play at all? Especially because with Minnesota losing last night, Saints have locked up homefield advantage...

[jason_bh]

w00t. Won my league.

I finished with only 2 losses and 286 points more than any one else.

Twas a good year. Thanks guise for all the input throughout this thread. ;)

[Uncontested]

Should I bench Peyton Manning in week 17 after he got benched last week? I have Alex Smith as my backup

[jason_bh]

Should I bench Peyton Manning in week 17 after he got benched last week? I have Alex Smith as my backup

Yes, bench him. I had him in this past week thinking that going for an undefeated season might keep him in the lineup. He got me 9 points. I suspect he does even less next week.

[PotKettleBlack]

Yes, bench him. I had him in this past week thinking that going for an undefeated season might keep him in the lineup. He got me 9 points. I suspect he does even less next week.
I doubt he'll even start, tbh, what's the point now they benched him?

[MSPump]

Should I bench Peyton Manning in week 17 after he got benched last week? I have Alex Smith as my backup

Send him to the pine.

A good WW pickup at QB is Freeman. Last time he played ATL he had 250 yds passing and 2 td's. And now ATL lost ANOTHER CB Chris Houston. So they will be starting rookie Chris Owens and Brent Grimes (5'8).

He should have another productive day against ATL.

[Z06]

Here's my starting lineup for the championship game:
QB Aaron Rodgers (@ Ari)
WR Randy Moss (@ Hou)
WR Wes Welker (@ Hou)
WR Devin Aromashodu (@ Det)
RB Maurice Jones-Drew (@ Cle)
TE Jason Witten (Phi)
FLEX Jerome Harrison (Jac)
FLEX Rashard Mendenhall (@ Mia)
K Matt Prater (KC)
+ misc. def players

Here's my bench:
WR Eric Weems (kick returns)
TE Jermichael Finley
RB Beanie Wells
RB Justin Forsett
TE Tony Gonzales

I just dropped Chad Ochocinco for Aromashodu.

Any rotations? Anybody I should pick up off the FA list? It's a small league, 8 teams, so there are lot of good players that are probably available, just give me some names. Lots of QBs available (Big Ben, Cutler, etc.). Some of the bigger names available are: Dwayne Bowe, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Williams, LenDale White, Chad Ochocinco, Willie Parker, Bernard Berrian, Jerricho Cotchery.

Also, here's my opponent's (my father lolz) team:
QB Schaub
WR Cribbs
WR DeSean Jackson
WR Percy Harvin
RB Darren Sproles
TE Fred Davis
FLEX Frank Gore
FLEX Fred Jackson
K Rob Bironas
+ misc. def players (including Charles Woodson)

Am I fawked?

[Z06]

decided to pull the trigger on Cutler, gonna bench Rodgers

[Hishiad]

Well didn't win a championship in any leagues.


Yahoo! - finished 5th
NFL - horrible HORRIBLE (misc league) no one did much except draft and set lineups...little trade little player dropping. Had a poor draft and couldn't find any steals on the waiver to fix the team

Yahoo! - Misc Pick 'em League 1st place with some people VERY CLOSE behind so this one comes down to this last week.

[MSPump]

decided to pull the trigger on Cutler, gonna bench Rodgers

Well i am not sure which time all the games play, but i read somewhere that the Cards and Pack are going to play starters or sit starters based on if Minnesota wins or loses i believe. But Cutler is a strong play either way. Hester is back as well so Aromashadu might not be starting, but they are crazy if they don't let him play a good bit.

[PotKettleBlack]

What do you guys think about benching Matt Schaub in favour of Jay Cutler?

[MSPump]

What do you guys think about benching Matt Schaub in favour of Jay Cutler?

heeeelllll no dude. Schaub is the highest QB rated this week in a potential shootout game. No way you can do that. Cutler does have a good matchup with Detroit, but they very well could get up early and not throw as much.

And Hester is back which puts Aromashadu on the bench who is arguably his best WR. But we still don't know how exactly Chicago will use him, but either way Schaub has the best matchup because Patriots arent resting their starters all game.

[PotKettleBlack]

heeeelllll no dude. Schaub is the highest QB rated this week in a potential shootout game. No way you can do that. Cutler does have a good matchup with Detroit, but they very well could get up early and not throw as much.

And Hester is back which puts Aromashadu on the bench who is arguably his best WR. But we still don't know how exactly Chicago will use him, but either way Schaub has the best matchup because Patriots arent resting their starters all game.
Aromashadu will be used. They can't just straight up bench him after having a game like that... They'll definitely use him in some capacity, how much, I dunno.

Also, I know it has been against Buffalo, Carolina and then Jacksonville, but the Pats' D has really stepped up in the past few weeks, so especially with the Pats' starters playing it's not that great a matchup.

[MSPump]

Aromashadu will be used. They can't just straight up bench him after having a game like that... They'll definitely use him in some capacity, how much, I dunno.

Also, I know it has been against Buffalo, Carolina and then Jacksonville, but the Pats' D has really stepped up in the past few weeks, so especially with the Pats' starters playing it's not that great a matchup.

Well yeah obviously they are not going to bench him, but he loses a ton of value when he is not starting opposite Earl Bennet. He may only come in on 3 WR packages when Earl Bennet moves to slot.

Yeah just for those teams you named. Roto has Schaub as the highest rated QB this week.

[PotKettleBlack]

Well yeah obviously they are not going to bench him, but he loses a ton of value when he is not starting opposite Earl Bennet. He may only come in on 3 WR packages when Earl Bennet moves to slot.

Yeah just for those teams you named. Roto has Schaub as the highest rated QB this week.
The last few weeks how improvement for their D and, regardless of Roto's rating, I'm still unsure. Any other opinions from anyone?

[FAH_Q]

The last few weeks how improvement for their D and, regardless of Roto's rating, I'm still unsure. Any other opinions from anyone?

I see where there is a debate, but Schaub might be the safer pick. New Englands secondary can still be burned bye a good QB/WR threat and Schaub to Andre is one of the best.

And they have came out and said they won't sit their starters so the first half will definitley be a shootout, but we don't know how the 2nd half is going to play out yet.

The Bears could dominate Detroit and resort to running too so you never know, but most would agree that Schaub is the better play this week.

[PotKettleBlack]

I see where there is a debate, but Schaub might be the safer pick. New Englands secondary can still be burned bye a good QB/WR threat and Schaub to Andre is one of the best.

And they have came out and said they won't sit their starters so the first half will definitley be a shootout, but we don't know how the 2nd half is going to play out yet.

The Bears could dominate Detroit and resort to running too so you never know, but most would agree that Schaub is the better play this week.
That's where my issue is. Being a Patriots' fan, I know about the secondary and how it can be exploited, and obv Matt Schaub has been scoring good points all year, but Cutler lit it up vs. the Vikings, and is going to want to put in a good performance again in the final game, to show Chicago exactly what he can do when he gets good protection.

Even with them looking to exploit the running game, I still think there will be plenty of opportunities for him to throw. It's a close call, IMO, I may be way off base, and I am probably sticking with Schaub, just looking for other opinions really.

[FAH_Q]

That's where my issue is. Being a Patriots' fan, I know about the secondary and how it can be exploited, and obv Matt Schaub has been scoring good points all year, but Cutler lit it up vs. the Vikings, and is going to want to put in a good performance again in the final game, to show Chicago exactly what he can do when he gets good protection.

Even with them looking to exploit the running game, I still think there will be plenty of opportunities for him to throw. It's a close call, IMO, I may be way off base, and I am probably sticking with Schaub, just looking for other opinions really.

Yeah I am actually a fan of Cutler. I have always liked him, but the dude has just been screwing alot of fantasy owners this year with his inconsistency. He played well against Pitt D then throws 4 or 5 picks against Packers and had a horrible game against someone else too i forgot who it was.

Either way both of them are good starts so thats a good problem to have.

[BigAl33]

Damn you Jim Mora, Julius Jones is trash let Forsett play!!!

[PotKettleBlack]

So no love for Aromashadu at all?

[bigbridrol]

bigger names and LenDale White do not belong in the same sentance

[Loswaldo]

Team for today:

QB- Matt Schuab
RB- Chris Johnson
RB- Ray Rice
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Roddy White
TE- Vernon Davis
K- Matt Prater
Defence- SF

[MercNMuscles]

Team for today:

Joe Flacco - QB vs. OAK
Andre Johnson - WR vs. NE
Steve Smith(NY) - WR vs. Min
Jabar Gaffney - WR vs. KC
Ray Rice - RB vs. OAK
Jerome Harrison - RB vs. JAC
Vernon Davis - TE vs. STL
Ryan Longwell - K vs. NYG
San Fran - DEF vs. STL
Jared Allen - DL vs. NYG
Asante Samuel - DB vs. DAL


My RB list is deep.....I have Rice, Harrison, Charles(vs. DEN), and Forte(vs. DET).
QB's are Rivers, Flacco, and Orton(vs. KC).
WR - Crabtree(vs. STL) benched for Gaffney due to Marshall and Royal being out.

These Matchups should be ok...but I'm unsure of Forte against DET. any words of wisdom?

[TPev]

Which TWO should I start out of these three, Crabtree, Hakeem Nicks, Dwayne Bowe?

[MSPump]

Which TWO should I start out of these three, Crabtree, Hakeem Nicks, Dwayne Bowe?

Nicks and Bowe

[TPev]

What about Moss? Starters getting yanked in NE?

[PotKettleBlack]

Team for today:

Joe Flacco - QB vs. OAK
Andre Johnson - WR vs. NE
Steve Smith(NY) - WR vs. Min
Jabar Gaffney - WR vs. KC
Ray Rice - RB vs. OAK
Jerome Harrison - RB vs. JAC
Vernon Davis - TE vs. STL
Ryan Longwell - K vs. NYG
San Fran - DEF vs. STL
Jared Allen - DL vs. NYG
Asante Samuel - DB vs. DAL


My RB list is deep.....I have Rice, Harrison, Charles(vs. DEN), and Forte(vs. DET).
QB's are Rivers, Flacco, and Orton(vs. KC).
WR - Crabtree(vs. STL) benched for Gaffney due to Marshall and Royal being out.

These Matchups should be ok...but I'm unsure of Forte against DET. any words of wisdom?
Forte can fill his boots vs. Detroit, I kept him in my fantasy squad pretty much especially for this matchup, obv a bit of a wishful thinking assuming I was going to the bowl game, but here I am.

Starting three RBs, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice and Matt Forte [in the flex, obv]. Hoping they can get a sackful of points, 'cos I've made a couple of waiver wire pickups, and taking a chance by starting Mike Thomas [Jax vs. Cleveland] and Devin Aromashodu [Chi vs. Detroit] as my two WRs...

[MercNMuscles]

Forte can fill his boots vs. Detroit, I kept him in my fantasy squad pretty much especially for this matchup, obv a bit of a wishful thinking assuming I was going to the bowl game, but here I am.

Starting three RBs, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice and Matt Forte [in the flex, obv]. Hoping they can get a sackful of points, 'cos I've made a couple of waiver wire pickups, and taking a chance by starting Mike Thomas [Jax vs. Cleveland] and Devin Aromashodu [Chi vs. Detroit] as my two WRs...

Last minute, I switched out Flacco for Orton. Even with benching Charles(45 points), I still got 143 points vs. 66 of my opponents. I'm really glad I didn't switch out Harrison for Forte, but I wish I would have moved Rice out for Charles. It doesn't really matter now, I won the whole thing being 9-5 in the regular season.

[PotKettleBlack]

Oh, I wasn't advocating switching out Harrison for Forte, I didn't really read your post other than the bit about Forte, I wanted to mention him anyway, lol.

I made the wrong choice keeping Schaub in ahead of Cutler like I was debating, but in the end, over two weeks I won by 114 points, so it's not like it mattered anyway. Good times!

[MSPump]

Oh, I wasn't advocating switching out Harrison for Forte, I didn't really read your post other than the bit about Forte, I wanted to mention him anyway, lol.

I made the wrong choice keeping Schaub in ahead of Cutler like I was debating, but in the end, over two weeks I won by 114 points, so it's not like it mattered anyway. Good times!

Yeah i was wondering if you ended up playing Schaub or Cutler. Figures Cutler would have put up his highest point total this week. I wasn't expecting Detroit to stay in the game that long.

[PotKettleBlack]

Yeah i was wondering if you ended up playing Schaub or Cutler. Figures Cutler would have put up his highest point total this week. I wasn't expecting Detroit to stay in the game that long.
Like I said, it doesn't matter in the end, because of how far ahead I was.

Came back home to see Aromashodu with 46 yards, and was kicking myself, then realised he had a little 2 TDs next to his name too. :D

[MSPump]

Like I said, it doesn't matter in the end, because of how far ahead I was.

Came back home to see Aromashodu with 46 yards, and was kicking myself, then realised he had a little 2 TDs next to his name too. :D

Ha i know i actually had to start him in a 16 team 2 flex spot league so i lucked out on that one. But i had him benched in several other leagues. Ah well

[PotKettleBlack]

Ha i know i actually had to start him in a 16 team 2 flex spot league so i lucked out on that one. But i had him benched in several other leagues. Ah well
It helped that my opponent had a ton of Saints starters as his lineup, and of course, they were pretty much all rested, so he had to do some scratching about, and I made sure I picked up a few guys off waivers that were looking good, just so he couldn't have them, more than anything.

[MSPump]

It helped that my opponent had a ton of Saints starters as his lineup, and of course, they were pretty much all rested, so he had to do some scratching about, and I made sure I picked up a few guys off waivers that were looking good, just so he couldn't have them, more than anything.

Yep i do that stuff all the time. Got to play a little defense.

[ty247]

This league is expanding from 12 teams to 16 next year.
So making smart choices this year on the keepers could net me a lot of money next.
The commish has expanded a required starting lineup so now we may have to start a 3rd RB also.

I want to hear other's opinions on this; Keeper league, keep 6.

PPR - all receptions .5 All Td's 6 points. Return yards 1/20(offensive players only),
passing yards 1/25. 1/10 rush/receiving.
IDP, tackles 1 pt, assists .5, 4pts sacks/ints

1QB/3RB/3WR/1TE/1K
1DL/1LB/1DB

My roster's pretty stacked so I'm trying to figure out who to keep.

Stafford,Matthew
Campbell,Jason
Ryan,Matt

Charles,Jamaal
Jones,Felix
McFadden,Darren
Washington,Leon
Jackson,Steven

Jones,James
Henry,Chris
Austin,Miles
Harvin,Percy
White,Roddy
Jennings,Greg

Finley,Jermichael
Witten,Jason

Mathis,Robert
Allen,Jared

Ruud,Barrett
Willis,Patrick


I know for sure, Jamaal Charles, Steven Jackson, Roddy White..

I'm wondering if I move one of the other receivers, Miles Austin, Greg Jennings or Percy Harvin(who can go off in this league with the return yards added in) and try to grab a different player to keep. If we definitely make the move to add a 3rd starting RB spot I think that may be a possibility.

[kethnaab]

keep 6.

PPR - all receptions .5 All Td's 6 points. Return yards 1/20(offensive players only),
passing yards 1/25. 1/10 rush/receiving.
IDP, tackles 1 pt, assists .5, 4pts sacks/ints

1QB/3RB/3WR/1TE/1K
1DL/1LB/1DB

My roster's pretty stacked so I'm trying to figure out who to keep.

Stafford,Matthew
Campbell,Jason
Ryan,Matt

Charles,Jamaal
Jones,Felix
McFadden,Darren
Washington,Leon
Jackson,Steven

Jones,James
Henry,Chris
Austin,Miles
Harvin,Percy
White,Roddy
Jennings,Greg

Finley,Jermichael
Witten,Jason

Mathis,Robert
Allen,Jared

Ruud,Barrett
Willis,Patrick


I know for sure, Jamaal Charles, Steven Jackson, Roddy White..

I'm wondering if I move one of the other receivers, Miles Austin, Greg Jennings or Percy Harvin(who can go off in this league with the return yards added in) and try to grab a different player to keep. If we definitely make the move to add a 3rd starting RB spot I think that may be a possibility.

If you can get good value for those guys, then go for it. I think someone will try to buy low on Jennings, so I doubt you get full value for him. I boldfaced who I'd keep.

if you're going to be picking bottom half though, you might need to keep Ryan

when do you have to declare?

if you can, try to move one of your excess keepers for a pick and a player that you like. I assume you're picking late, you might get hosed at QB

[ty247]

If you can get good value for those guys, then go for it. I think someone will try to buy low on Jennings, so I doubt you get full value for him. I boldfaced who I'd keep.

if you're going to be picking bottom half though, you might need to keep Ryan

when do you have to declare?

if you can, try to move one of your excess keepers for a pick and a player that you like. I assume you're picking late, you might get hosed at QB

Yah I won the league so I'll be picking last.

I don't believe I have to declare for a while, so I've got a bit of time to decide.

[weezyjaunt]

bumping this for a keeper question...would love to get kethnaab's thoughts especially - league is non-ppr scoring

I am keeping peyton hillis at the cost of a 14th round pick and have been offered to trade him for mike wallace at the cost of a 9th round pick - I am seriously considering this with some of the questions surrounding hillis (new coaching staff, hardesty) and the emergence of wallace last year

Here's an interesting article about wallace making the case for why he could be in for a huge year - http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/Content/WR_Wallace_2011_1-9-11.htm

I don't believe hillis is going to be in for a massive dropoff as some are predicting, but if hardesty stays healthy (although that is another question mark) hillis' total yards could be fairly pedestrian compared to last year (maybe around 1k?) - I would be surprised if he doesn't score double digit TDs if he stays healthy though. There is still a lot up in the air though due to the new coaching staff, free agency, injury concerns with his running style, etc

2 more factors making me consider this trade -

1. I am also going to be keeping Jamaal Charles (costing me a 6th round pick)
2. For whatever reason, I always draft RBs really well and always draft WRs pretty poorly - I feel like I would be getting a very likely top 10 WR for a guy with some question marks

Any comments will be greatly appreciated!

[Nainoa]

bumping this for a keeper question...would love to get kethnaab's thoughts especially - league is non-ppr scoring

I am keeping peyton hillis at the cost of a 14th round pick and have been offered to trade him for mike wallace at the cost of a 9th round pick - I am seriously considering this with some of the questions surrounding hillis (new coaching staff, hardesty) and the emergence of wallace last year

Here's an interesting article about wallace making the case for why he could be in for a huge year - http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/Content/WR_Wallace_2011_1-9-11.htm

I don't believe hillis is going to be in for a massive dropoff as some are predicting, but if hardesty stays healthy (although that is another question mark) hillis' total yards could be fairly pedestrian compared to last year (maybe around 1k?) - I would be surprised if he doesn't score double digit TDs if he stays healthy though. There is still a lot up in the air though due to the new coaching staff, free agency, injury concerns with his running style, etc

2 more factors making me consider this trade -

1. I am also going to be keeping Jamaal Charles (costing me a 6th round pick)
2. For whatever reason, I always draft RBs really well and always draft WRs pretty poorly - I feel like I would be getting a very likely top 10 WR for a guy with some question marks

Any comments will be greatly appreciated!

I would do it, for the reasons you mention... But also... The Steelers have a slightly easier schedule through the year (4th Easiest), they have a more well rounded offense, and a defense that will keep them in games and give them better field position.

The steelers FF playoff run (Assuming your FB is week 16) is: Browns, Niners, Rams (All three are rather pourous on passing defense.


Cleeveland still has a pretty easy schedule at 11th easiest, but their offense other than Hillis is very suspect, so he's going to get keyed on more all year long... (Especially the 4 games he plays the Ravens and Steelers, stout run D) and the Browns Playoff Schedule is Steelers, Cardinals and Ravens!!!


When you consider that you also have Charles for a nice round pick value... I think you should pull that trigger for Wallace.

[Nainoa]

I was just starting to itch Fantasy Football when this thread got bumped... I've put a note on the first post for anyone new to this thread to start discussing 2011 on this page on.

[Nainoa]

Okay... So I know there isn't a lot of Chatter coming out of the NFL ATM... But I'm operating on the assumption that they'll get their heads out of their asses and we'll have a season on time.

With this premise in place... name some of your favorite sleepers and dark horse picks?

I'm getting a good late round vibe out of Danny Amendola of the Rams... I think the Rams are emerging as a more balanced offense FINALLY... And I think Amendola fits into that Wes Welker slot role in McDummiels offense.

[weezyjaunt]

I would do it, for the reasons you mention... But also... The Steelers have a slightly easier schedule through the year (4th Easiest), they have a more well rounded offense, and a defense that will keep them in games and give them better field position.

The steelers FF playoff run (Assuming your FB is week 16) is: Browns, Niners, Rams (All three are rather pourous on passing defense.


Cleeveland still has a pretty easy schedule at 11th easiest, but their offense other than Hillis is very suspect, so he's going to get keyed on more all year long... (Especially the 4 games he plays the Ravens and Steelers, stout run D) and the Browns Playoff Schedule is Steelers, Cardinals and Ravens!!!


When you consider that you also have Charles for a nice round pick value... I think you should pull that trigger for Wallace.

exactly what I was thinking, thanks for the input! I saw that playoff schedule for Hillis too, ravens week 14 and steelers week 16, yikes. Basically just have to hope he scores a TD

I've been getting the itch to talk fantasy too, was surprised someone hadn't bumped this already :( although it's completely understandable with the lockout

[Nainoa]

exactly what I was thinking, thanks for the input! I saw that playoff schedule for Hillis too, ravens week 14 and steelers week 16, yikes. Basically just have to hope he scores a TD

I've been getting the itch to talk fantasy too, was surprised someone hadn't bumped this already :( although it's completely understandable with the lockout

Yeah normally I go on a wilderness retreat in mid june and I start thinking and talking Fantasy Football when I get back. But the lockout has really reduced the chatter out there.

[Harganoff]

Okay... So I know there isn't a lot of Chatter coming out of the NFL ATM... But I'm operating on the assumption that they'll get their heads out of their asses and we'll have a season on time.

With this premise in place... name some of your favorite sleepers and dark horse picks?

I'm getting a good late round vibe out of Danny Amendola of the Rams... I think the Rams are emerging as a more balanced offense FINALLY... And I think Amendola fits into that Wes Welker slot role in McDummiels offense.

Haven't though too much about sleepers, but I think Ryan Fitzpatrick could be a pretty good later round QB.

[Nainoa]

exactly what I was thinking, thanks for the input! I saw that playoff schedule for Hillis too, ravens week 14 and steelers week 16, yikes. Basically just have to hope he scores a TD

I've been getting the itch to talk fantasy too, was surprised someone hadn't bumped this already :( although it's completely understandable with the lockout

Yeah I'm still a little pissed at myself for last year giving away advice tips on free agents to guys in my league on: Arian Foster, Hillis and Mike Williams of TB... Simply because my team was stacked (Or at least appeared to be) and they had bad drafts.

These guys got wasted at the draft and I was afraid that they'd drop out if they had a crap season so I gave them "free advice" figuring it would get them another win or two to keep them interested.

:mad:

[Nainoa]

Haven't though too much about sleepers, but I think Ryan Fitzpatrick could be a pretty good later round QB.

Yeah I've never been "Down" on R-Fitz, just hard to get "Up" on Buffalo... the emergence of Stevie Johnson certainly helps his value this year. And I think you're right that he flies under the radar to the late rounds.

What I would do though is look at your starting QB's bye and hopefully Buffalo is playing a team with a stout run defense and a weak pass D, before pulling that trigger and finishing with a fist pump!
:D

[weezyjaunt]

Okay... So I know there isn't a lot of Chatter coming out of the NFL ATM... But I'm operating on the assumption that they'll get their heads out of their asses and we'll have a season on time.

With this premise in place... name some of your favorite sleepers and dark horse picks?

I'm getting a good late round vibe out of Danny Amendola of the Rams... I think the Rams are emerging as a more balanced offense FINALLY... And I think Amendola fits into that Wes Welker slot role in McDummiels offense.

I am big on amendola as well and also like the welker comparison a lot. McDaniels had the broncos throwing the ball a lot last year, although that is somewhat skewed due to playing from behind a lot and having a bad defense...it would also be beneficial for them to throw more and conserve steven jackson a little more

I like stafford, bradford (if they both stay healthy) and freeman as QBs to get if you want a really good backup or if you like to wait on QBs, which is what I usually end up doing. I feel stafford and bradford have really high upside but freeman is the safest of the 3

granted, none of the 3 are deep sleepers at all, but in a 10 man league you could be the last to draft a QB and there's a good chance they'll all be there and I like their chances to score comparably to some of the QBs that will go a few rounds higher. I also feel they will do better than some of the QBs who will likely be drafted around them, i.e. Cassel, Ryan, Orton now that John Fox is in charge

[Nainoa]

I am big on amendola as well and also like the welker comparison a lot. McDaniels had the broncos throwing the ball a lot last year, although that is somewhat skewed due to playing from behind a lot and having a bad defense...it would also be beneficial for them to throw more and conserve steven jackson a little more

I like stafford, bradford (if they both stay healthy) and freeman as QBs to get if you want a really good backup or if you like to wait on QBs, which is what I usually end up doing. I feel stafford and bradford have really high upside but freeman is the safest of the 3

granted, none of the 3 are deep sleepers at all, but in a 10 man league you could be the last to draft a QB and there's a good chance they'll all be there and I like their chances to score comparably to some of the QBs that will go a few rounds higher. I also feel they will do better than some of the QBs who will likely be drafted around them, i.e. Cassel, Ryan, Orton now that John Fox is in charge

I think in the end, or at least right now... McDaniels isn't ready to be a head coach, and he straight up tricked Pat Bowlen into hiring him.

I think his strength or at least his place at this point in his career is as an offensive coordinator. And the Amendola bank gets value out of it.


As for QB talk...

Oh God... Now you're getting me thinking about my team...

BRB getting the visine out to counter the wall text to come!
:D

[weezyjaunt]

Yeah I've never been "Down" on R-Fitz, just hard to get "Up" on Buffalo... the emergence of Stevie Johnson certainly helps his value this year. And I think you're right that he flies under the radar to the late rounds.

What I would do though is look at your starting QB's bye and hopefully Buffalo is playing a team with a stout run defense and a weak pass D, before pulling that trigger and finishing with a fist pump!
:D

I made the mistake of only drafting romo at qb last year and stockpiling at RB and WR so I ended up with fitz for awhile at QB after Romo was hurt - he was pretty serviceable thanks to the emergence of stevie and he also runs for a surprising amount of yards - I believe at one point he was second in rushing YPG amongst starting qbs behind vick at around 35 per game? He definitely wasn't going to singlehandedly win you any games though

until CJ spiller takes over (if he does) I like fred jackson as a late round RB you can use in the flex or as a backup...not much else in buffalo besides them

[weezyjaunt]

I think in the end, or at least right now... McDaniels isn't ready to be a head coach, and he straight up tricked Pat Bowlen into hiring him.

I think his strength or at least his place at this point in his career is as an offensive coordinator. And the Amendola bank gets value out of it.


As for QB talk...

Oh God... Now you're getting me thinking about my team...

BRB getting the visine out to counter the wall text to come!
:D

agreed about mcdaniels, I am not a fan...on one of matthew berry's fantasy podcasts at the beginning of last year, he said he had a friend in the broncos' organization that said they were going for a 70/30ish pass/run ratio...I feel like mcdaniels is going to bring a pass heavy offense to the rams this year too

[Nainoa]

agreed about mcdaniels, I am not a fan...on one of matthew berry's fantasy podcasts at the beginning of last year, he said he had a friend in the broncos' organization that said they were going for a 70/30ish pass/run ratio...I feel like mcdaniels is going to bring a pass heavy offense to the rams this year too

Yeah traditionally I'm low on Stephen Jackson due to his injury issues... But we've seen that he can be a good pass catching back, and he might not get over used this year in the run game with a balanced offense on deck.

Of the available big backs in this year's draft pool in my league, he might end up as a prime target for me.

[Nainoa]

So once again... I'm asking the same pre-season question...

For my draft strategy this year, do I "Stock the Pantry" with a young team that's set to rebuild... Or do I try to throw my hat in on a Bang or Bust strike to just spend it all and win it all, then do an almost TOTAL rebuild next year.

Figured I'd break down the key points over the course of a couple of posts for easier digestion than my usual WALL TEXT on the subject.

Basics of my League:
Dynasty Builder
Auction draft
$500 Salary Cap
Maximum duration of a player's salary is 3 years.

*I have a lot of core keepers that roll over next year, so this is my year to either strike big, or make a singular push for total domination.

Currently there are two teams... Possibly 3 that clearly have a stronger keeper squad for the same or less money. Only one of those 3 (The Defending champion) is in my conference.

Best Available "Studs" that will be going back into the draft pool and positional trends analysis:

QB's: Stud QB's in this league tend to go around the $100 range, and back ups tend to run around $25-$55. The QB pool gets picked over pretty heavily by week 3

Top 10 QB's going back in the pool this year:
Aaron Rogers (100% Chance he's going back in)
Drew Brees (70%)
Romo (50%)

Top 20 RB's going back in. (RB trend spends RIDICULOUSLY high) Then the top Rookie RB always goes for too much, and everything else is a dumpster sale bargain in the late rounds.
Adrian Peterson
Turner
Chris Johnson
Mojo
Ced Ben
S-Jax
Gore
Forte

Top 15 WR's Available
Andre Johnson (Who's technically mine to the tune of $131 if I want to pay that?)
DS-Jax
Percy Harvin (50% chance)
Reggie Wayne
Welker
Jennings (50%)
Colston
Brandon Marshall
Steve Smith (NyG) ?
Larry Fitz

Then pretty much every TE is going back into the pool... Depending on if I keep Vernon Davis for $4 (On the last year of his contract or not)



Okay... So there's the low down on the available pool for you to sort of digest for a minute, while I post up the nitty gritty of my team.

[Nainoa]

Here's my full team * indicates they are being considered for keeping, but I can only keep 6 total. (Salary Cap is $500)

*Big Ben, $6 (2 years remaining on his contract)
*Matt Ryan $59 (I'm really high on him this year with 2 years left on his contract)
*Josh Freeman $11 (Possible trade bait from other owners 2 Years Remaining)

*LaGarrett Blount $11 (2 years)
*Shonn Greene $9 (Final year)
Toby Gerhart $41 (Trade Bait in Viking Country!)
Ryan Mathews $131 (Too Spendy)
*Tolbert $11
Spiller $63
J-Stew $55 (Final Year... And I'm low on him)

*Andre Johnson $131 (2 Years Remaining)
*Miles Austin $8 (Final Year)
Steve Smith NTG $7

*Vernon Davis $4 (Final year)

At this point I'm thinking that I'm going to keep:

Big Ben
Matt Ryan
Blount
Shonn Greene
Miles Austin

And then Waffling on Andre or Vernon Davis.


One possible trade out there is a guy who is FORCED into a massive rebuilding this year... The only player of any true value he has is LeSean McCoy for $29 (Who is in the final year of his contract.)

If I decide to go with the "Big Spender" strategy and go for a big win this year and total rebuild next year... This guy is on the fence about trading me his McCoy for:

Shonn Greene
Josh Freeman
Toby Gerhart
Ryan Mathews
Tolbert

[weezyjaunt]

Here's my full team * indicates they are being considered for keeping, but I can only keep 6 total. (Salary Cap is $500)

*Big Ben, $6 (2 years remaining on his contract)
*Matt Ryan $59 (I'm really high on him this year with 2 years left on his contract)
*Josh Freeman $11 (Possible trade bait from other owners 2 Years Remaining)

*LaGarrett Blount $11 (2 years)
*Shonn Greene $9 (Final year)
Toby Gerhart $41 (Trade Bait in Viking Country!)
Ryan Mathews $131 (Too Spendy)
*Tolbert $11
Spiller $63
J-Stew $55 (Final Year... And I'm low on him)

*Andre Johnson $131 (2 Years Remaining)
*Miles Austin $8 (Final Year)
Steve Smith NTG $7

*Vernon Davis $4 (Final year)

At this point I'm thinking that I'm going to keep:

Big Ben
Matt Ryan
Blount
Shonn Greene
Miles Austin

And then Waffling on Andre or Vernon Davis.


One possible trade out there is a guy who is FORCED into a massive rebuilding this year... The only player of any true value he has is LeSean McCoy for $29 (Who is in the final year of his contract.)

If I decide to go with the "Big Spender" strategy and go for a big win this year and total rebuild next year... This guy is on the fence about trading me his McCoy for:

Shonn Greene
Josh Freeman
Toby Gerhart
Ryan Mathews
Tolbert

never done dynasty before so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think your group of keepers looks very good...only question I have is why you like ryan over freeman at that price? Although their passing will definitely be better with another legit WR, mike jenkins wasn't cutting it

other than that, it seems like everything else you're doing is what I would do too once their prices are factored in...I would definitely acquire mccoy if you could, but is he asking you for all 5 of those players for mccoy? Not sure if I am reading it right

[Nainoa]

never done dynasty before so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think your group of keepers looks very good...only question I have is why you like ryan over freeman at that price? Although their passing will definitely be better with another legit WR, mike jenkins wasn't cutting it

other than that, it seems like everything else you're doing is what I would do too once their prices are factored in...I would definitely acquire mccoy if you could, but is he asking you for all 5 of those players for mccoy? Not sure if I am reading it right

At $59 Matt Ryan is still a pretty good value... If I toss him back into the draft he'll go somewhere in the $80 range.

I'm already invested in Blount... So if I over invest in TB and they stink up the place (In a division with the saints and the Falcons) I'll take a hit. That and I think this is the year that Matt Ryan plays himself into that top 5-6 of QB's... Or he falters.

Plus people have shown interest in trading for Freeman.


And yes... The trade deal would be for all those guys for McCoy... which is fine since I intended to throw most of them back.



But now here's the swing question on the "Buy Big" strategy.

Option A: Trade For McCoy and Keep Andre Johnson over Vernon Davis.

Option B: Trade for McCoy and Keep Vernon Davis over Andre... Then try to draft a WR like Reggie Wayne for around $90-$100

Option C: Don't trade for McCoy (Keep Shonn Greene in his place) and keep Vernon Davis... Then pay big bucks for either Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson or Turner.

Option D: Don't trade for McCoy, (Keep Shonn Greene in his place) and keep Andre Johnson, then I can probably get S-Jax as my #1 back, with a Blount and Greene filling the #2 and #3 roles

[Nainoa]

So lets take a minute to look at some top rookies.

*Note for me I evaluate Rookies looking at their 3 year value. Every year I get 2 for my Dynasty league and it seems like one always does great (Like Blount was for me late last year) and one sucks (Mathews) and I over pay.

C'est la vie...

So here's my Take:

*Depending on when training camps open will decrease the value of RB's in Non-Dynasty leagues, because they will have even less time to learn blocking schemes. (On pass heavy teams I think this means more because they'll get less playing time on passing downs)

I think the top 3 Rookie RB's who get chased this year are:
Ingram (NO) Thomas (Mia) and Williams (AZ)

For a seasonal league, I think Thomas has the most value on a run friendly team behind a strong O-line, with two injury prone/old-ish backs on the way out to free agency.

On the 3 year time line, I think Ingram has the most value in NO's high powered offense as he plays into the role of the between the tackles runner and the 4th quarter grinder.

I'm not sure what to think of Williams??? Crowded backfield and minor injury problems aren't things I'm looking for in a Rookie RB... But if he stays healthy and Hightower and Beanie keep shidding it down their leg, he could step up strong.




WR wise... Pretty shallow class...

AJ Green... If Palmer gets his head out of his ass I think AJG is a low end #3 this year who plays himself into a low end #1 by his third year in the league. If Dalton Starts I think the double growing pains kills the early part of AJG's career.

Julio Jones... I think this guy plays like Megatron did his first two years... One year to "Get it" with some random deep threat TD's... And then goes off in year 2.


My Darkhorse Rookie Sleeper that I think will blow some people up late in the season is Mikel LeShoure... Jahvid Best has never been a full time, healthy season kind of back. I think LeShoure is the Perfect fit for the kind of offense Detroit wants to run (Assuming Stafford can get over his brittleness)

Detroit needs a "Punisher" back to grind in the 4th quarter and at the goal line more than the elusiveness and pass catching skills that Best brings... Especially since screen plays end up getting QB's Tattooed!

[weezyjaunt]

At $59 Matt Ryan is still a pretty good value... If I toss him back into the draft he'll go somewhere in the $80 range.

I'm already invested in Blount... So if I over invest in TB and they stink up the place (In a division with the saints and the Falcons) I'll take a hit. That and I think this is the year that Matt Ryan plays himself into that top 5-6 of QB's... Or he falters.

Plus people have shown interest in trading for Freeman.


And yes... The trade deal would be for all those guys for McCoy... which is fine since I intended to throw most of them back.



But now here's the swing question on the "Buy Big" strategy.

Option A: Trade For McCoy and Keep Andre Johnson over Vernon Davis.

Option B: Trade for McCoy and Keep Vernon Davis over Andre... Then try to draft a WR like Reggie Wayne for around $90-$100

Option C: Don't trade for McCoy (Keep Shonn Greene in his place) and keep Vernon Davis... Then pay big bucks for either Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson or Turner.

Option D: Don't trade for McCoy, (Keep Shonn Greene in his place) and keep Andre Johnson, then I can probably get S-Jax as my #1 back, with a Blount and Greene filling the #2 and #3 roles

I feel like at this point in his career you're likely (although not definitely) gonna end up paying more for reggie wayne than he is worth

this year will be make or break for shonn greene...I drafted him in a few leagues last year and am still salty about it. he could produce as good or better than mccoy if he gets 275+ touches and some goalline work, but I feel mccoy is a lot safer. if greene has another dud year, I don't think he will be in a position to be a bellcow next year.

Sorry if this isn't much help...I've only ever done redrafts so I am not too familiar with dynasty strategy.

I didn't see if your league was PPR or not, but if it is then I am even higher on mccoy - they used him a ton on screens and such last year. This is assuming they don't get another back like sproles or reggie bush - I had read speculation the eagles might sign bush, but I think there is a lot of wild speculation going on with the lockout still in place

[Farough]

I don't know if I missed it or not in one of your posts, Nainoa, how does free agency work for your league? I really like the set up. We have been trying to get an auction league going for a few years now but can't seem to get much interest in it from my friends. Maybe with the keepers attached they will get on board though.

[awahl63]

Oh my lord yes...FF is back!!!

[Farough]

Also, by the looks of it I would keep Davis over Andre. You should be able to pick up a receiver that is a tier under him for a lot less than that. D-Jax, Jennings or even Marshall really cheap now.
I haven't been around auctions too much though so I may be way off. .. Just how I see it.

[Nainoa]

Also, by the looks of it I would keep Davis over Andre. You should be able to pick up a receiver that is a tier under him for a lot less than that. D-Jax, Jennings or even Marshall really cheap now.
I haven't been around auctions too much though so I may be way off. .. Just how I see it.

Actually... A new development... I might be able to trade Andre ($131) and Vernon Davis ($4) for Megatron ($90) And Megatron has 2 more years left on his contract... So I'd be thorwing out 2 guys that I have to put back next year, for one guy who I could keep for 2 years at that price?

*The guy has only hinted at this deal so far... But everyone is putting out feelers... Do you think I should make the offer?

[Nainoa]

I don't know if I missed it or not in one of your posts, Nainoa, how does free agency work for your league? I really like the set up. We have been trying to get an auction league going for a few years now but can't seem to get much interest in it from my friends. Maybe with the keepers attached they will get on board though.

I personally don't like our free agency system... I was a little asleep at the switch on it when we finalized it back in 2002 when I invented this system. (There were so many other details, I just let it slide) and now I keep getting voted down to have it changed.

The way our system works is that in the Auction there is a minimum bid based on position:
QB & RB = $5
WR + $3
TE, K & D = $1

After the draft the minimum price you can pick someone up is double his minimum position.
QB & RB = $10
WR + $6
TE, K & D = $2

So my buddy who picked up Vick last year off the waiver wire in week 1, has him for 3 years at a $10 contract. (All salaries go up 10% each year a player is kept)

*****

If I had it to do all over again I would handle free agency thussly:

Option A (My preferred option)
Any player picked up as a FA cannot be kept the next year, he has to be re-drafted (This screws everyone equally... Both my buddy with Vick and me with Lagarette Blount.) So you might get a guy who blows up one year for cheap, but you can only keep guys who are drafted.
*If a guy is drafted, dropped and picked back up again, he still has the same salary and is available to be kept.



Option B: Every week there are 2 pick up sessions... Monday Night to Wednesday Night is session 1... Everyone posts up on the message board who they want and what they are willing to pay for him... And there is an open bidding on the message boards.

*This is fair to the guy who saved some salary cap space after the draft, compared to the guy who blew his load in reckless bidding spending sprees.

Then at that Wednesday deadline people get whomever. And another free bidding deadline opens up that runs to Saturday Morning... With a final one leading up to Sunday at Noon.

This ^^^^ is a clusterfrack amount of work for the comissioner.

In our current system the Commish and Co-comish don't make any money... If I went with Option B, they would get some dollars for the amount of work it is to monitor this bidding. Especailly because that time of year you're going to have guys out hunting/fishing/having sex with barn animals/in jail for hitting an Amish person with a hand axe/traveling for work... And they'll be calling you up because they can't get to a computer but they want you to put their bid in for them etc...

[weezyjaunt]

Actually... A new development... I might be able to trade Andre ($131) and Vernon Davis ($4) for Megatron ($90) And Megatron has 2 more years left on his contract... So I'd be thorwing out 2 guys that I have to put back next year, for one guy who I could keep for 2 years at that price?

*The guy has only hinted at this deal so far... But everyone is putting out feelers... Do you think I should make the offer?

I personally feel calvin is the most gifted receiver in the NFL, but his optimal conditions are when both he and stafford are healthy, which can be tough to come by...I just looked and it appears he has actually only missed 3 full games in his career? It seems like he is hurt a lot more often than that

What is your likely scenario at tight end if you get rid of vernon? I have read that Harbaugh's offense could be very beneficial for him, although I am not really familiar with what he ran at stanford

[Nainoa]

I don't know if I missed it or not in one of your posts, Nainoa, how does free agency work for your league? I really like the set up. We have been trying to get an auction league going for a few years now but can't seem to get much interest in it from my friends. Maybe with the keepers attached they will get on board though.

When it comes to the topic of attracting people to this format. In general I've found that it's only the die hard guys who have been doing FF for a lot of years that get attracted to an Auction system that is only for 1 season.

Newbs and casual players, get in over their head, they find it to be a lot of work, and they don't tend to come back the next year.

If you give them one or two keepers they might hang around if they get a choice keeper or two for a steal of a deal because he broke out.

But you still end up scrabbling each year to fill out the league because you never get 100% retention.

BUT... I allow 6 keepers (There is a salary slot format, but in 9 seasons, this is our tenth) it's only come up once.

When you allow 6 and you call it a Dynasty League with an auction draft and salary cap you really get a lot of guys who stick. Because now you can build a team that's "Yours" you managed it season to season, you make smart deals, you have rebuilding years, and three year runs with a stud squad etc...

To the point where I have so much retention that I have to keep a "Waiting List" of people who want to join my league... And the average wait is like 3+ years.

It's great as a commish to not have to go digging around every august to five 10 guys and explain an intricate system to them.

In fact there was a guy last year who was pissed off about a rule (He had a bad draft because he was drunk and wanted to tweak some long standing rules to his favor) and he overtly hinted in some strong arm play that if I didn't take a vote to have the rule tweaked his way (He'd been playing politics and favors behind the scenes and I knew it) then he was threatening to quit.

To which I was able to overtly hint back "Feel free to quit if you don't like it, I've got two guys, either one of which is happy to pick up your squad... I think the one guy even owns a Dallas Clark jersey!"

[Nainoa]

I personally feel calvin is the most gifted receiver in the NFL, but his optimal conditions are when both he and stafford are healthy, which can be tough to come by...I just looked and it appears he has actually only missed 3 full games in his career? It seems like he is hurt a lot more often than that

What is your likely scenario at tight end if you get rid of vernon? I have read that Harbaugh's offense could be very beneficial for him, although I am not really familiar with what he ran at stanford

Here's the thing... If they don't re-sign Alex Smith, and it's just Kapernick in a new offense in SF... No way am I keeping Vernon Davis. (Especially if I trade for McCoy in my "Win big in 1 year" strategy. As Kapernick goes through his growing pains.

If they re-sign Alex Smith, then even in a new offense, I still have enough trust that when things break down (As they tend to do in newly installed offenses) that Alex will be looking for Vernon more and more, because they have the most chemistry on the whole team.

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Tight end should be pretty deep pool this year... The last 2 years TE's went WAY over priced. Guys who saved money to win a big back or a Top Flight WR who lost their bids would drive up the price and be willing to pay for a Big TE to make up for it.

When I look at it... Unless someone gets a little crazy... I think every Tight end is going to be available to me (I'll probably have to pay around $30 for a top TE)

Only exceptions... Cooley (70% chance he'll be held), Owen Daniels (50% chance he'll be held) and then of course me with Vernon Davis (The most inexpensive TE in the league.)

[Nainoa]

I personally feel calvin is the most gifted receiver in the NFL, but his optimal conditions are when both he and stafford are healthy, which can be tough to come by...I just looked and it appears he has actually only missed 3 full games in his career? It seems like he is hurt a lot more often than that

What is your likely scenario at tight end if you get rid of vernon? I have read that Harbaugh's offense could be very beneficial for him, although I am not really familiar with what he ran at stanford

I had Megatron for his first 3 years... In his first year he had the back injury (I went to the Fantasy Bowl and won)... He went off in his second year (I got to the Fantasy bowl and lost) then in year 3 he had some injury woes.

Last year I lost out on the bidding for him... But I'd love to have him back... With Stafford healthy and that team emerging I think he plays like a top 3-5 WR again.

[Farough]

I had Megatron for his first 3 years... In his first year he had the back injury (I went to the Fantasy Bowl and won)... He went off in his second year (I got to the Fantasy bowl and lost) then in year 3 he had some injury woes.

Last year I lost out on the bidding for him... But I'd love to have him back... With Stafford healthy and that team emerging I think he plays like a top 3-5 WR again.


I personally don't like our free agency system... I was a little asleep at the switch on it when we finalized it back in 2002 when I invented this system. (There were so many other details, I just let it slide) and now I keep getting voted down to have it changed.

The way our system works is that in the Auction there is a minimum bid based on position:
QB & RB = $5
WR + $3
TE, K & D = $1

After the draft the minimum price you can pick someone up is double his minimum position.
QB & RB = $10
WR + $6
TE, K & D = $2

So my buddy who picked up Vick last year off the waiver wire in week 1, has him for 3 years at a $10 contract. (All salaries go up 10% each year a player is kept)

*****

If I had it to do all over again I would handle free agency thussly:

Option A (My preferred option)
Any player picked up as a FA cannot be kept the next year, he has to be re-drafted (This screws everyone equally... Both my buddy with Vick and me with Lagarette Blount.) So you might get a guy who blows up one year for cheap, but you can only keep guys who are drafted.
*If a guy is drafted, dropped and picked back up again, he still has the same salary and is available to be kept.



Option B: Every week there are 2 pick up sessions... Monday Night to Wednesday Night is session 1... Everyone posts up on the message board who they want and what they are willing to pay for him... And there is an open bidding on the message boards.

*This is fair to the guy who saved some salary cap space after the draft, compared to the guy who blew his load in reckless bidding spending sprees.

Then at that Wednesday deadline people get whomever. And another free bidding deadline opens up that runs to Saturday Morning... With a final one leading up to Sunday at Noon.

This ^^^^ is a clusterfrack amount of work for the comissioner.

In our current system the Commish and Co-comish don't make any money... If I went with Option B, they would get some dollars for the amount of work it is to monitor this bidding. Especailly because that time of year you're going to have guys out hunting/fishing/having sex with barn animals/in jail for hitting an Amish person with a hand axe/traveling for work... And they'll be calling you up because they can't get to a computer but they want you to put their bid in for them etc...

I like Option A for free agency it makes a lot of sense.

Do you guys host it online or is there any sites that even allow your rules to be adjusted to their fantasy league format?

I'm definitely going to be showing my buddies this thread and your ideas. Maybe they can agree on something like it with a few modifications.

Thanks a lot for posting the set up.

[Farough]

Actually... A new development... I might be able to trade Andre ($131) and Vernon Davis ($4) for Megatron ($90) And Megatron has 2 more years left on his contract... So I'd be thorwing out 2 guys that I have to put back next year, for one guy who I could keep for 2 years at that price?

*The guy has only hinted at this deal so far... But everyone is putting out feelers... Do you think I should make the offer?

That looks like a great deal. Even without Stafford in the lineup Calvin will get his. How much do top tight ends usually go for in your league? Even if u go cheap on TE there should be some decent value I would assume (Owen Daniels, John Carlson off the top of my head)

[Farough]

I've got my keeper league team selections coming up on who to keep..

My surefire keepers are Rivers, Andre, Nicks and I don't know who to keep for the last one

I have Ryan Matthews, LeGarrette Blount, Dez Bryant to choose from.
I'm thinking Matthews, would love to keep Dez but keeping 3 WR when you only start 3 is kinda crazy.

I also have first pick in every round of my draft along with the last pick of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round via trade(traded Foster last year)

Having a tough time decided which I'm going to keep. I can't see many RBs being available but whatever player I don't keep if there is no one better left I can always just take the guy I didn't keep with my first selection.

(sorry for the rambling, pretty much thinking to myself within the post)

[Nainoa]

I like Option A for free agency it makes a lot of sense.

Do you guys host it online or is there any sites that even allow your rules to be adjusted to their fantasy league format?

I'm definitely going to be showing my buddies this thread and your ideas. Maybe they can agree on something like it with a few modifications.

Thanks a lot for posting the set up.

After getting burned on some entry fee money in the past, I've made a rule that no one can be in my league unless I know where they live and can drive there in 1 hour. So our Auction is always a live event.

(Then the struggle is to keep it from turning into a wild drinking party.) The drinking is a real double edged sword. On the one hand, the more guys drink the greater the deals you get. I mean Big Ben $5, Shonn Greene $8, Miles Austin $8, Vernon Davis $4 (And in '07 D-Will for $8 and Andre Johnson for $26) These were all HUGE scores for me in the late rounds because guys were wasted and just wanted to take a leak, or go pass out or bang their wife... And I stayed sober and scooped up the deals.

The other side of that blade is that a room full of drunks makes that draft take FOREVER... When I have my IT buddy run the draft board on a computer projector, while I keep people organized our fastest ever draft was 5 hours and 15 minutes.

last year my buddy couldn't make it, his replacement had a team and got WASTED... Draft was something like 7 hours and 45 minutes!

The draft can definitely be laborious. (And puts off guys who only do a 1 seasonal) But when it's a keeper structure. Pfft... I can handle having 2 beers in 7 hours, to get most of the sleepers I want!

I'm not sure how you'd do it on-line... You'd want to look at some sites.


It is basically something you could do on a message board.


Person 1 nominates a player for a bid...
Person 2 either increases that bid (By a whole dollar) or drops out.
Once you drop out you can no longer bid on that player.

Person 3 then bids or drops out.

It goes 1-10, 1-10 until only one person is in... Whatever that person's highest, final bid is, is that players salary counted against their cap.

Most auction leagues do $100 caps... I prefer $500.

[Nainoa]

That looks like a great deal. Even without Stafford in the lineup Calvin will get his. How much do top tight ends usually go for in your league? Even if u go cheap on TE there should be some decent value I would assume (Owen Daniels, John Carlson off the top of my head)

Recent trend has top TE's going for $30-something... last year a crazy bidding war went off on Jason Witten (Between two brothers) and he ended up at $51 (Which is the record highest ever paid for a TE... Previous record was $41.

Even Owen Daniels went for $31 last year.


But here's the thing... If I send Andre ($131) and Vernon ($4) Packing for Megatron ($90) it means I have $47 that are essentially "Free" to spend on any tight end! I could get a guy like Finely for $25-ish... And have some money to roll over into a top flight Defense.
(Which in our scoring system a top flight D with a return man who gets some scores, gets points like a low end #2 WR.


I think I'm going to officially offer the deal to this guy and see what happens?

[Farough]

I figured it was a live draft. That's how we do our current keeper league but I mean for stats keeping

I have a fantasy baseball league that we have manual stat keeping because its a weekend only league with different points awarded for each stat(3 for HR, 1 RBI, RUN, 2 for SB, etc)

Since it is so unique we are forced to do it manually. Thats basically what I was asking is about the score keeping.

[Nainoa]

I've got my keeper league team selections coming up on who to keep..

My surefire keepers are Rivers, Andre, Nicks and I don't know who to keep for the last one

I have Ryan Matthews, LeGarrette Blount, Dez Bryant to choose from.
I'm thinking Matthews, would love to keep Dez but keeping 3 WR when you only start 3 is kinda crazy.

I also have first pick in every round of my draft along with the last pick of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round via trade(traded Foster last year)

Having a tough time decided which I'm going to keep. I can't see many RBs being available but whatever player I don't keep if there is no one better left I can always just take the guy I didn't keep with my first selection.

(sorry for the rambling, pretty much thinking to myself within the post)

Mathews has too much of an injury history to put a keeper tag on him, AND QB/RB from teh same team is the most snake bitten player compbo... so it puts it between Blount and Bryant IMO...

There are A LOT more #2 WR's in the league and thus the talent pool than there are RB's who have a solo gig like Blount.

Blount's drawback is his attitude, which Morris the PERFECT fit to be able to adjust and handle.

I was high on Blount when he was in Tennessee... As I was waiting for CJ to go down from over work...

When he went to TB I grabbed him... If not for that punching incident, and the fall out Blount would have gone as a top 5 pick last year in the NFL rookie draft.

[Nainoa]

I figured it was a live draft. That's how we do our current keeper league but I mean for stats keeping

I have a fantasy baseball league that we have manual stat keeping because its a weekend only league with different points awarded for each stat(3 for HR, 1 RBI, RUN, 2 for SB, etc)

Since it is so unique we are forced to do it manually. Thats basically what I was asking is about the score keeping.

Yeah my scoring is pretty standard
1/20 Passing 3 for TD
1/10 Rushing & Recieving 6 TD (No PPR)

We've always used CBS sportsline, which has a wildcard category so you can manually enter salary and contract year... I've been told we could do the same thing in Yahoo, but haven't looked into it.

[Nainoa]

I had Megatron for his first 3 years... In his first year he had the back injury (I went to the Fantasy Bowl and won)... He went off in his second year (I got to the Fantasy bowl and lost) then in year 3 he had some injury woes.

Last year I lost out on the bidding for him... But I'd love to have him back... With Stafford healthy and that team emerging I think he plays like a top 3-5 WR again.

Okay... I made the offer to the guy, so we'll see if he takes it...

So IF I can pull off both deals... Then it means my 6 keepers would look like this:

Big Ben $6 (2 More Years)
Matt Ryan $59 (2 More Years)

LeSean McCoy $29 (Final year)
LaGaratte Blount $11 (2 more years)

Megatron $91 (2 More Years)
Miles Austin $8 (Final Year)

I will have spent $204 out of a $500 cap Leaving me with $296 left to spend

Let's say I just want to get stupid... Drop $50 on any Tight End I wanted?

Finely if he stays healthy tops my list... I used to have Witten for 3 years and loved him, but don't know if I want to be that heavy into dallas' passing attack... And of course there's always Dallas Clark.

I'm feeling low on Gates this year, with him turning 30 and having already had so many injury problems.

[Nainoa]

Well this weekend while I was battling power outtages I also worked on some trade negotiations.

Nothing is finalized yet... But I have BOTH owners Feeling Positive about trading me:

Andre Johnson and Vernon Davis for Calvin Johnson (Who's much cheaper and keepable for 2 more years!)

And then Deal #2 is for a guy who's in total rebuilding mode this year... I give him:
Ryan Mathews, Tolbert, Josh Freeman, Toby Gerhart and Shonn Greene... (+2 pages of my sleeper research)

I get:
LeSean McCoy.


So this would make my 6 keepers look like:

Big Ben
Matt Ryan

LeSean McCoy
LaGarette Blount

Miles Austin
Calvin Johnson

And then I'd have the money and position left to be able to go after a Dallas Clark at Tight End.

[weezyjaunt]

Well this weekend while I was battling power outtages I also worked on some trade negotiations.

Nothing is finalized yet... But I have BOTH owners Feeling Positive about trading me:

Andre Johnson and Vernon Davis for Calvin Johnson (Who's much cheaper and keepable for 2 more years!)

And then Deal #2 is for a guy who's in total rebuilding mode this year... I give him:
Ryan Mathews, Tolbert, Josh Freeman, Toby Gerhart and Shonn Greene... (+2 pages of my sleeper research)

I get:
LeSean McCoy.


So this would make my 6 keepers look like:

Big Ben
Matt Ryan

LeSean McCoy
LaGarette Blount

Miles Austin
Calvin Johnson

And then I'd have the money and position left to be able to go after a Dallas Clark at Tight End.

That's a very nice looking team...I realize you probably mean someone in the dallas clark echelon as opposed to definitely getting him, but if you do get clark I would see if you can get Tamme as well, he was extremely good in his place last year.

It seems to me as if the colts tight ends/slot guys i.e. collie, clark, blair white, etc. are the ones who help compensate for the usually less than stellar run game with a lot of short/intermediate routes

[Nainoa]

That's a very nice looking team...I realize you probably mean someone in the dallas clark echelon as opposed to definitely getting him, but if you do get clark I would see if you can get Tamme as well, he was extremely good in his place last year.

It seems to me as if the colts tight ends/slot guys i.e. collie, clark, blair white, etc. are the ones who help compensate for the usually less than stellar run game with a lot of short/intermediate routes

Yeah sometimes I think if Edgerin James hadn't ripped his knee years ago, Peyton Manning would have as many Super Bowl Appearances and or Rings as a Tom Brady or Big Ben.

But without a run game to punish a Defense and wear them down, playoff caliber D's can hang in there semi-fresh for 4 quarters... And 4 quarters of your Defense being able to do what you want them to do (For a Defensive Coordinator) is just too long as opposed to calling a 4th quarter Defensive scheme based on what your D has left in the tank.

[Vigilante_Inc]

What does everyone recommend as far as websites to get the best info from? Free and Pay sites for FF.

I feel like there are a lot of question marks this year and I'd like a little extra insight on it and want to find a good place to go.

Arian Foster - Does he get exclusive touches or does he go the way of Steve Slaton in the Kubiak system.

Blount - Can he continue what he did the last portion of the season? I had him pegged as being one of the leading rushers as far as yardage this year.

Any breakouts to look for like Blount and Foster did last year.

Vick - Terrifies me to own him... terrifies me even more not too.

Will be in a 10 man league. We redraft every year. Basic Scoring (TD's are always worth 6 so QB's get a nice edge in our league)

[weezyjaunt]

What does everyone recommend as far as websites to get the best info from? Free and Pay sites for FF.

I feel like there are a lot of question marks this year and I'd like a little extra insight on it and want to find a good place to go.

Arian Foster - Does he get exclusive touches or does he go the way of Steve Slaton in the Kubiak system.

Blount - Can he continue what he did the last portion of the season? I had him pegged as being one of the leading rushers as far as yardage this year.

Any breakouts to look for like Blount and Foster did last year.

Vick - Terrifies me to own him... terrifies me even more not too.

Will be in a 10 man league. We redraft every year. Basic Scoring (TD's are always worth 6 so QB's get a nice edge in our league)

I like the footballguys.com forum...the "shark tank" section is pretty active considering the lockout, and they have a lot of discussion similar to the questions you are asking. It's good to read all opinions, it's all speculation at this point so it's helpful to read both sides of an argument even if you disagree

barring injuries/frequent fumbles, I anticipate foster to have a similar amount of touches, I would think Tate sneaks in some but not enough to cut back foster's touches significantly. a RB that is young and was that productive shouldn't have his workload cut back much. I would anticipate his yards/TDs to come back down to earth some even with a similar amount of touches - just simple regression to the mean

I like blount again assuming TB doesn't pick up any more RBs, just a nice big chain moving RB. After researching him some this season, it is interesting to read he was not very good by the goalline - I didn't anticipate that from a big RB

I am strongly considering paying for the footballguys.com premium content and possibly paying for a subscription to fantasyfootballmetrics.com - I've never paid for fantasy advice before but I am planning on being in 3 or 4 leagues that are $50+ dollars, so if I can cash in multiple leagues it should be worth it

[Nainoa]

What does everyone recommend as far as websites to get the best info from? Free and Pay sites for FF.

I feel like there are a lot of question marks this year and I'd like a little extra insight on it and want to find a good place to go.

Arian Foster - Does he get exclusive touches or does he go the way of Steve Slaton in the Kubiak system.

Blount - Can he continue what he did the last portion of the season? I had him pegged as being one of the leading rushers as far as yardage this year.

Any breakouts to look for like Blount and Foster did last year.

Vick - Terrifies me to own him... terrifies me even more not too.

Will be in a 10 man league. We redraft every year. Basic Scoring (TD's are always worth 6 so QB's get a nice edge in our league)

While I'm a little pissed at myself for having the chance to choose between Foster and Mike Bush and choosing Bush instead... I don't see Foster being a top 5 back like he's rated. I see him finishing the season in that 6-12 range.

There's a combo of reasons for this...
1. Ben Tate will take touches with his mere talent as the season progresses.
2. The scheme last year made other Defenses focus on the pass... I mean Andre was constantly double and triple covered, while Foster was facing 7 man fronts, that were really 6's because the TE's were always taking a LB with him. With a season of tape to look at, I think opposing D's move in on this.

BUT I think it helps Andre see only double coverage or less this year.

*****

Vick is going to miss games due to being hit and being a small fragile QB.

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This year... I'm feeling Danny Amendola as sort of a Diet Welker darkhorse WR.

I'm really feeling Emmanual Sanders up in Pittsburgh... He's got the best chance to fill Hines wards shoes and take that coveted #3 WR in Pittsburg's Offense.

Rookie Runningback I think will have the biggest impact: Daniel Thomas in Miami (Assuming Ricky and Ronnie go away)

Rookie RB who's most likely to be this years out of nowhere "LaGarette Blount" I'm going with Mikel Leshoure. He's got the physicals to get 5-10 touches per game and calls at the stripe... But I Jahvid Best has proven to be fragile through college and now into the pro's... When he misses time I think LeShoure steps in to produce solid #2 RB numbers on a rising team with a strong passing game keeping the box empty.


I also think this is the year that we see CJ Spiller show up.

I think that whomever wins the backup gig to Mendy up in Pittsburgh is a must have. Mendy is really getting a lot of mileage now and due for a breakdown.

Same with Adrian Peterson... And I think that Toby Gerhart is a great handcuff

My pick for WTF Dark Horse Defense...

Tampa Bay Buccaneers... I wouldn't take them as a #1 unit... But if you've got space towards the end of the last pick or two in the draft and an early bye on your starting D... I think you're going to see a lot of sacks and forced Fumbles coming out of that front 4 this year... Which has a knack for creating opportunities for other things.




Obviously there are a lot of questions out there that shift and twist depending on all the stuff that happens in free Agency.


Some of the FA impact things to watch:

SF's QB... If Alex Smith doesn't come back, I'm not taking Vernon Davis of Crabtree (If Healthy) I also down grade Gore, because his injury prone ass will see 8 and 9 man fronts with Kapernick. But whoever wins Gore's back up spot gets upgraded. ;)

If Matt Hasselbeck goes ANYWHERE but Seattle, then Seattle's WR's are undraftable. Especially if Leinert goes up to Seattle.

If Kevin Kolb goes away and there isn't a viable backup to Vick in Philly, then it downgrades Maclin and DSJax. But slightly upgrades McCoy and Celek

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also, once the season gets going this section picks up quite a bit and there's a lot of good advice...there's more questions than answers, but guys like nainoa, kethnaab, etc give a ton of good advice

[Nainoa]

I like the footballguys.com forum...the "shark tank" section is pretty active considering the lockout, and they have a lot of discussion similar to the questions you are asking. It's good to read all opinions, it's all speculation at this point so it's helpful to read both sides of an argument even if you disagree

barring injuries/frequent fumbles, I anticipate foster to have a similar amount of touches, I would think Tate sneaks in some but not enough to cut back foster's touches significantly. a RB that is young and was that productive shouldn't have his workload cut back much. I would anticipate his yards/TDs to come back down to earth some even with a similar amount of touches - just simple regression to the mean

I like blount again assuming TB doesn't pick up any more RBs, just a nice big chain moving RB. After researching him some this season, it is interesting to read he was not very good by the goalline - I didn't anticipate that from a big RB

I am strongly considering paying for the footballguys.com premium content and possibly paying for a subscription to fantasyfootballmetrics.com - I've never paid for fantasy advice before but I am planning on being in 3 or 4 leagues that are $50+ dollars, so if I can cash in multiple leagues it should be worth it

Blount's Goalline work I think was less about his size and more about how as a rookie who didn't see the field until the middle of the season he wasn't quite used to the speed of the game and the Goalline is just as much about speed and timing as it is size.

I trust that much like Mendy his first season, he'll have that fixed for season 2.

Blount was one of my biggest darkhorse calls last season... In fact I even gave his name away to a guy, because I'll include "Sneak Peaks at my research" as part of my trade negotiations.

So I made a trade with this guy and dropped Blount's name... He scoffed at me like I cheated him with crappy info... So I sent him in Ben Tate's direction and he thought I was a genius who'd been holding out on him.

Then I grabbed Blount for myself!

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that's a good point about blount...also seems like goalline effectiveness would be heavily predicated on the o-line talent. I think if blount can get 250+carries and do well around the goalline he could be a michael turner type guy, although I don't really think he has the surprise breakaway speed that turner has had

[Nainoa]

that's a good point about blount...also seems like goalline effectiveness would be heavily predicated on the o-line talent. I think if blount can get 250+carries and do well around the goalline he could be a michael turner type guy, although I don't really think he has the surprise breakaway speed that turner has had

Actually Blount EXACTLY reminds me of Jerome Bettis in his prime... The guy can hit, he can plow, he's got a little bit of moves, has a lot of energy and passion, he can break a 20 or maybe 30 yarder... But he doesn't have the high end speed to breakaway.

Blount is the kind of Diamond in the Rough (I Hope) that I always love having at the core of my team in a 3 year keeper... especially on an emerging team like Tampa... Especially now that Tampa has a strong D line... Those sacks and fumbles they are (Hopefully) going to generate make for running back friendly field position.

[Vigilante_Inc]

Last year was the biggest fluke of my FF career! I had the best team throughout the whole season and managed to get beat just enough times to not win any money in my season. Injuries at bad times kept screwing me and then then 2nd week of the playoffs I posted my worst score of the year and got beat. Even though I had the friggin all-star team.

My Old Team:
M. Vick
L. McCoy
A. Foster
J. Charles
V. Jackson
A. Johnson
D. Branch
J. Maclin
A. Boldin
A. Gates

Plus backups scattered about obviously. I had Dallas Clark until he took a dive, then I traded some back up WR's to someone who had pretty much no one and got Gates.

And yes I didn't win a single penny with this team. FLUKE