View Full Version : Branch Warren vs. Dennis Wolf
In LT1Squirrel's thread, he seemed to think it was a general consensus that Vic, Wolf, Kai, Dex, Phil and Jay would be a lock for top 6.
I, on the other hand, Think Branch beats out Wolf and should be considered one of the top 6 guys going in.
I decided to make a picture thread comparing the two. I'm using Branch's 2009 ASC photos and Wolf's 2007 Olympia photos, since most will agree that was his best package.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0021191937444.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_22961236465274.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0051191937444.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_26671236482080.jpg
The pics of Branch are kind of at a weird angle, but whatever.
I don't think Branch blows him out of the water. He even loses the FDB, but I think Branch has the better overall package.
Also, I couldn't find pic of Dennis in the side or back relaxed poses, which are some of Branch's strongest poses.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0081191937444.jpg
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0131191937445.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_23131236465276.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/1274/d/o2007menpre-0161191937445.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_23181236465277.jpg
Shaun0310
08-25-2009, 12:25 PM
I know branch in the last pic is closer up but damn he dwarfs dennis in the leg department. holy ham drop. You didnt post a rear last spread comparison. Wolf owns branch in that pose. I think if branch brings this package or a more improved one he could crack the top 6.
I know branch in the last pic is closer up but damn he dwarfs dennis in the leg department. holy ham drop. You didnt post a rear last spread comparison. Wolf owns branch in that pose. I think if branch brings this package or a more improved one he could crack the top 6.
I know I didn't. They don't have one of Branch straight on from the ASC. I don't want to go to multiple websites to get the pics, because some places have better pics than others and I would be accused of being biased. I think Wolf wins RLS in the upper body, but I don't know about the whole pose, because of Branch's ridiculous hams.
iroczinoz
08-25-2009, 12:28 PM
I know branch in the last pic is closer up but damn he dwarfs dennis in the leg department. holy ham drop. You didnt post a rear last spread comparison. Wolf owns branch in that pose. I think if branch brings this package or a more improved one he could crack the top 6.
Dennis's legs have exploded. The last picture I saw of him his legs were friggin massive. Quad sweep is ridiculous.
Dennis's legs have exploded. The last picture I saw of him his legs were friggin massive.
Yeah? If that's true I can't wait to see it, and was unaware.
Shaun0310
08-25-2009, 12:36 PM
Dennis's legs have exploded. The last picture I saw of him his legs were friggin massive. Quad sweep is ridiculous.
If thats the case then I dont see Branch beating him. This year is going to be nuts. And im going to vegas to go watch it! :)
willldabeast
08-25-2009, 12:42 PM
Branch looked soooo good at the Arnold. His physique is definitely not pretty though like Wolf's, it is freaky. We will see what the judges are going for this year
Rsardinia
08-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Branch's quads are massive. I don't like his back development but I have to admit he looks damn good in those pix. Wolf had soft glutes while Branch's were striated and Branch's hams were much better too. This olympia is going to be sick.
Branch looked soooo good at the Arnold. His physique is definitely not pretty though like Wolf's, it is freaky. We will see what the judges are going for this year
Well if they go for freaky then Kai will be your winner :)
Whey Hey
08-25-2009, 01:07 PM
I would go for Wolfie...
Branch's RDB looks so weird, really "messy" if i could describe it that way... not much clear cut separation like Wolf has...
spirit3530
08-25-2009, 01:09 PM
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drewwwww17
08-25-2009, 01:11 PM
wolf is a contender for the win branch is a top 6 competitor. fail
wolf is a contender for the win branch is a top 6 competitor. fail
Really? I hardly think Wolf is a contender for the win. Dex, Vic, Jay and Heath Have all beaten him and will, I think, do so again....
And I really don't see Kai losing to him this year.
So to me, that leaves Branch and Wolf fighting it out for 6th.
x800venom
08-25-2009, 01:15 PM
I don't think many people realize how thick Branch is until they see a close up picture of him or meet him in person. The guy is literally a flesh tank walking. From those pictures alone I don't see any reason why Branch would have trouble taking out Wolf. However, this year we are supposed to see a thicker Wolf, so we'll have to wait and see.
x800venom
08-25-2009, 01:16 PM
wolf is a contender for the win branch is a top 6 competitor. fail
Wolf is not a first place contender. He is a 4th to 6th place contender.
Your 1st to 3rd place contenders are: Dex, Phil, Jay, Vic, Kai
Branch, Samuel, Freeman, Wolf, Moe, ect ect are 4th to 8th contenders
Whey Hey
08-25-2009, 01:17 PM
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Epic Branch before he lost his hair.... :(
Now he looks like a sore t-rex...
ESPforMe
08-25-2009, 01:31 PM
Wolf would beat Branch. Beats him from the front and the back.
Memorial93
08-25-2009, 01:32 PM
Wolf definitely has a smaller waist (which I prefer) and has a much better BDB but with legs like Branch you can't help but not notice. Everything from the waist down is great for Branch. In whatever order they place, they'll probably be next to each other
Wolf would beat Branch. Beats him from the front and the back.
So you agree not from the side, due to branch's thickness and hamstring hang?
I think wolf overall looks better front and back, but Branch's Legs win from all angles and his freakiness/conditioning put him over the top for me.
ESPforMe
08-25-2009, 01:45 PM
So you agree not from the side, due to branch's thickness and hamstring hang?
I think wolf overall looks better front and back, but Branch's Legs win from all angles and his freakiness/conditioning put him over the top for me.
Branch can hang in there with most from the side for sure. Almost unbeatable legs with a great chest. Arms a lacking a bit though.
I feel Wolf beats Branch for sure in the FLS, FDB, MM, BDB and RLS. Branch has side poses but side tri is closer than side chest. I'd give Ab&thigh to branch too. I think he's great in that pose.
Branch is always hard to beat because he's always in shape and has tons of muscle. Wolf though has better structure and just stands out more on stage.
Branch is always hard to beat because he's always in shape and has tons of muscle. Wolf though has better structure and just stands out more on stage.
I agree about the better structure, but I think they stand out equally. Just in different ways.
warbird00
08-25-2009, 01:50 PM
Wolf owns branch
Branch has hella muscle but no flow at all
He loooks horrible IMO
mikieson
08-25-2009, 03:48 PM
Im no fan of either, but Wolf beats him hands down.
IwillBaMonster
08-25-2009, 03:53 PM
It's like comparing J.Stubbs with L.priest (with tored bi).. Too far away in a height department IMHO. And that Branch dude looks weird with all that mass on a tiny frame (while L.priest looks far better btw, even being short. That means - Branch has no chances in "O". I'd say - 11-12).
So where's the most up to date pics of wolf? I think he's made really good progress from the 07 Olympia so its not really a good comparison.
When Branch brings his A game tho - I'm all for him, I think he looks great and different from all other competitors in the top 6 - which will prob go against him of course, but he's still good.
rocco421
08-25-2009, 04:13 PM
wolf pwns branch. not even close. and branch is a manlet
leonidas300
08-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Wolf owns branch
Branch has hella muscle but no flow at all
He loooks horrible IMO
Agree. He is densely muscled, but he just does not look good.
White_Goodman
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
Branch has a subpar back
DavisForman
08-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Waist down, Branch wins. Waist up, Wolf wins.
Most muscular, Branch.
Wolf's width dwarfs Branch.
If Branch hasn't improved a lot from the arnold, and wolf has thickened up, and nails his conditioning like in 07, wolf beats him. If wold hasn't thickened up as much, or comes in like last year, Branch SHOULD win, but who knows with the politics of judging.
And those who think Dennis doesn't have a shot at the win are either ignorant or die hard heath fans. If Dennis brings a thicker frame to the stage, nails his conditioning, theres no reason he cant win. If he has brought up his weaknesses, he will dwarf everyone else.
I'm not saying that cause I want or think he will win. I'm just saying its stupid to count him out. Dennis missed his mark last year. Same thing could happen to any of the other competitors this year.
mrusa85
08-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Branch has a physique that is so unlike any of the other competitors, it's always a wonder how he will place in any show. Could be 2nd or 3rd. Could be 8th or 9th. Depends on the show, the other guys and the judges.
DavisForman
08-25-2009, 04:46 PM
Branch has a physique that is so unlike any of the other competitors, it's always a wonder how he will place in any show. Could be 2nd or 3rd. Could be 8th or 9th. Depends on the show, the other guys and the judges.
Someone watched 2009 arnold, and clearly remembered what Bob said as he was narrating it, cause you pretty much copied what he said lol.
mrusa85
08-25-2009, 05:02 PM
Well I've thought that since Branch won his first pro shows in 2005 and then placed 8th at the O that year. If Bob said that this year, he's spot on.
DavisForman
08-25-2009, 05:05 PM
Well I've thought that since Branch won his first pro shows in 2005 and then placed 8th at the O that year. If Bob said that this year, he's spot on.
His placing has nothing to do with his unique look. His placing is determined the same as everyone else. Size, conditioning, symmetry, and proportions. If he has the best of all those categories, he wins. If he doesn't, he doesn't win.
The judges don't just think, "Hmm, not a fan of his freakiness. Lets put him eighth." Or the other way, "Hmm, I like that freaky look he's got. Let have him win."
lancs_hotpot
08-25-2009, 05:44 PM
Big fan of Branch but i think stood next to Wolf he'll lose every time aslong as Wolf turns up right.
Wolf dominates Warren completely.
DavisForman
08-25-2009, 06:50 PM
Big fan of Branch but i think stood next to Wolf he'll lose every time aslong as Wolf turns up right.
Hey man, a little off topic, but just wanted to say your pretty jacked man. And for only 20 too, very impressive physique. Reps bro.
gomez26
08-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Wolfs gonna win the whole show
Rsardinia
08-25-2009, 07:36 PM
Wolf dominates Warren completely.
lol completely? Bro, have you seen Warren's legs? Wolf definitely wins if it was between the 2 of them overall, but he gets blown the **** away by Warren's legs.
DavisForman
08-25-2009, 08:19 PM
lol completely? Bro, have you seen Warren's legs? Wolf definitely wins if it was between the 2 of them overall, but he gets blown the **** away by Warren's legs.
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IronMogul
08-25-2009, 08:40 PM
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I'm a big fan of Branch and really like his physique now but I still think he looked MUCH better when he was competing as an amateur. Of course, he didn't have the thickness and the muscularity that he has now but I guess that's the price they have to pay to move up in the ranks. I only wish he didn't have such small forearms and I never was too fond of his crab most muscular. But other than than those things, he's great.
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ZBlacktt
08-25-2009, 09:16 PM
If these two guys stood side by side. Kid you not, Wolf would look like a gaint. After seeing Branch at the 09 Arnold look so small standing next to Green, Vic and Freeman. Imagine next to a 300lber at Wolf's height. Yes, Branch as the second best legs on stage now ( Green first ). But his upper frame is so small, with smaller arms as well. I guess one could say, Wolf yes will be in the top 5, Branch? Maybe like 7th or 8th. EDIT: This is just my opinion anyway..... no flame wars needed, lol.
ZBlacktt
08-25-2009, 09:19 PM
I'm a big fan of Branch and really like his physique now but I still think he looked MUCH better when he was competing as an amateur. Of course, he didn't have the thickness and the muscularity that he has now but I guess that's the price they have to pay to move up in the ranks. I only wish he didn't have such small forearms and I never was too fond of his crab most muscular. But other than than those things, he's great.
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Yes, I've seen early pictures of Branch as well. He looked so much better there some 8 years ago. Much like Jay did early on. But now, seems like the overall polish is fading. Like it is for a few other long time top guys.
Kiwi_
08-25-2009, 09:19 PM
Branch had a pretty decent shape in his younger days.
ZBlacktt
08-25-2009, 09:23 PM
Wolf dominates Warren completely.
Thanks for being honest for a change, lol.... just might have to rep you more often, lol :D
LT1Squirrel
08-25-2009, 10:17 PM
so i juest realized my thread got closed... for some reason.. but i still think wolf will be in top 6 whereas branch will not, but branch will win best legs/most muscular, like he always has
tsiparlanaeht
08-25-2009, 11:53 PM
wolf all day every day over branch imo
the-craig
08-26-2009, 03:56 AM
There is a case for each pose to get either way really I think it's pretty close but I would give the edge to Branch. If I remember right a lot of people were saying Branch beat Victor at the Arnold so if Vic beats Wolf how does Warren not have a chance?
wlf.vik83
08-26-2009, 05:37 AM
How is this even a contest?
I have mad respect for Branch. If Wolf and him stood next to each other, Branch would own the leg department.
Apart from that, Wolf dominates.
mrusa85
08-26-2009, 08:39 AM
His placing has nothing to do with his unique look. His placing is determined the same as everyone else. Size, conditioning, symmetry, and proportions. If he has the best of all those categories, he wins. If he doesn't, he doesn't win.
The judges don't just think, "Hmm, not a fan of his freakiness. Lets put him eighth." Or the other way, "Hmm, I like that freaky look he's got. Let have him win."
His unique look affects his conditioning, size, proportion, details and shape. It's part of the whole package he presents and how he looks. Therefore, it affects his placings.
Thewhite9t
08-26-2009, 10:16 AM
If Wolf just had bicep peaks and didn't look like a squirrel he would definately take Mr O.
mrusa85
08-26-2009, 11:14 AM
If Wolf just had bicep peaks and didn't look like a squirrel he would definately take Mr O.
Like a squirrel? I thought he looked like the Green Goblin from Spider-Man.
Penile_Dementia
08-27-2009, 12:04 AM
There is a case for each pose to get either way really I think it's pretty close but I would give the edge to Branch. If I remember right a lot of people were saying Branch beat Victor at the Arnold so if Vic beats Wolf how does Warren not have a chance?
because a lot of people were... wrong.
FullROM
08-27-2009, 02:18 AM
wolf is a contender for the win branch is a top 6 competitor. fail
No way branch hangs with Wolf, for that matter I dont think he could hang with Heath either. Wolf is a serious contender for multiple Mr O titles.
Kiwi_
08-27-2009, 02:49 AM
Boom
http://i29.tinypic.com/6xrasz.jpg
Ehudd
08-27-2009, 02:54 AM
Boom
http://i29.tinypic.com/6xrasz.jpg
ahhhhhh
dem delts
Darren in Gym
08-27-2009, 03:00 AM
Branch has brought up his back so much, he was almost as wide as vic at the arnold, but yeah didnt have as much detail as vic. I think branch if he has brought up his back a bit more from the arnold, can beat both Vic and Wolf. Vic was lucky at the arnold, he had no legs and was soft compared to branch and kai. if wolf is conditioned enough (like 07) he could beat warren but its all going to come down to the moment onstage.
wlf.vik83
08-27-2009, 03:02 AM
Boom
http://i29.tinypic.com/6xrasz.jpg
Magnificent.
morderstwo
08-27-2009, 03:16 AM
If Wolf just had bicep peaks and didn't look like a squirrel he would definately take Mr O.
wolfs arms are not whats holding him back right now
sydneyelvis
08-27-2009, 04:17 AM
branch is one of my favourites but the way i see it he has 3 problems
he doesnt pose properly
his biceps look funky
and his rear delats are lacking this affecting his rdb
the-craig
08-27-2009, 05:37 AM
because a lot of people were... wrong.
Who are you to say they were wrong when you could be wrong in saying that.
DavisForman
08-27-2009, 06:59 AM
because a lot of people were... wrong.
Judges were wrong dude. Branch beat victor hands down.
Branch held his own in the last spread. I'd go even as far to say that he beats kai in that pose. His hams are crazy
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I4710.jpg
Destroys victor in abs/thigh
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I4730.jpg
Kai wins side chest, but branch beats vic
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I4688.jpg
He doesn't have the same width as the other two in the back double bi's, but he has far more muscularity.
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I4694.jpg
antish
08-27-2009, 07:38 AM
Waist down, Branch wins. Waist up, Wolf wins.
Most muscular, Branch.
Wolf's width dwarfs Branch.
If Branch hasn't improved a lot from the arnold, and wolf has thickened up, and nails his conditioning like in 07, wolf beats him. If wold hasn't thickened up as much, or comes in like last year, Branch SHOULD win, but who knows with the politics of judging.
And those who think Dennis doesn't have a shot at the win are either ignorant or die hard heath fans. If Dennis brings a thicker frame to the stage, nails his conditioning, theres no reason he cant win. If he has brought up his weaknesses, he will dwarf everyone else.
I'm not saying that cause I want or think he will win. I'm just saying its stupid to count him out. Dennis missed his mark last year. Same thing could happen to any of the other competitors this year.
the back bro, the back.i don't see wolf being dominant from that pose.
DavisForman
08-27-2009, 07:46 AM
the back bro, the back.i don't see wolf being dominant from that pose.
I hope your joking.
antish
08-27-2009, 08:04 AM
nope.the lower back issues might hurt him
jsweendog7
08-27-2009, 10:16 AM
I've got to say, at this point, these guys look more like Guillermo Del Toro's creatures than human beings
And before anyone else says it, "no, I will never have the determination or strength those men do"
and I'm ok with it
DavisForman
08-27-2009, 11:10 AM
I've got to say, at this point, these guys look more like Guillermo Del Toro's creatures than human beings
And before anyone else says it, "no, I will never have the determination or strength those men do"
and I'm ok with it
Why are you in the IFBB section then?
cramron
08-27-2009, 11:29 AM
DW looks like mr O and BW looks like he needs to take 2 years off of the training because his upperbody lost its fullness yet he retained the sick vascularity which makes him look....strange
Chaosvash
08-27-2009, 12:45 PM
I've got to say, at this point, these guys look more like Guillermo Del Toro's creatures than human beings
And before anyone else says it, "no, I will never have the determination or strength those men do"
and I'm ok with it
Thanks for your unasked opinion, ktnx bai.
the-craig
08-27-2009, 01:15 PM
DW looks like mr O and BW looks like he needs to take 2 years off of the training because his upperbody lost its fullness yet he retained the sick vascularity which makes him look....strange
Kidding me?! Branch looks spot on and full as hell.
R.Talbott
08-27-2009, 01:55 PM
I love Branch but I gotta say Wolf>Branch right now. Besides from the legs because Branchs are one of the best, Wolf looks better at just about every pose.
the-craig
08-27-2009, 02:06 PM
It has been said in millions of comparisons but it all comes down to apples and oranges.
Just had to bump this, so everyone could enjoy some of the posts :)