CONTEST PREP for the 035 bodybuilders

[stayfit2008]

for anyone wanting to compete,..are or have competed to share your journey and gain support from other bodybuilders 035 like you. Also great for people to see what it really takes to do a prep.

I expect everyone to respect the opinions and posts of the member. If this thread is utilized correctly it can be a wealth of knowledge. Thank You

Mod Edit:

Contest Prep Journals for O35'ers:

Team Norton: from Edmonton to Atlanta
Mike's I mean it this time journal!
STAYFIT2008 back for some more 2009 comp!
Help Old Man Skinny Prepare for a Show

[BuckSpin]

1st in what will hopefully be a very beneficial thread to all.

FWIW I am 800some days out with a competition goal of the 2011 Maine Event on (guesstimate) September 25, 2011.

[bodyhard]

Once I start preparing for my contest I will post exclusively in here. My surgery is in Oct. I will share as much info as possible.

[stayfit2008]

I hope here we can discuss all the aspects of bodybuilding prep.

i.e.:
posing
tanning
split sharing
experience
competition day
peak week
where to purchase posing trunks
changes you experience through prep...

[namtrag]

I am 365 days out as of today! I will try to post in here as often as I can...last night, I went to the 2009 version of the show I am going to do I can post a little summary of what I saw if you peeps want me to...

[BuckSpin]

I am 365 days out as of today! I will try to post in here as often as I can...last night, I went to the 2009 version of the show I am going to do I can post a little summary of what I saw if you peeps want me to...

A year out! You are on the clock, man! Game on! What is your timetable?

[stayfit2008]

I am 365 days out as of today! I will try to post in here as often as I can...last night, I went to the 2009 version of the show I am going to do I can post a little summary of what I saw if you peeps want me to...

Mike,..you know I will be following along!

[Tifflex]

I hope here we can discuss all the aspects of bodybuilding prep.

i.e.:
posing
tanning
split sharing
experience
competition day
peak week
where to purchase posing trunks
changes you experience through prep...

Chris, these are all excellent topics.

I think balance, emotional and spiritual well-being are worthwhile topics as well. Lastly, contest prep tends to become the center of one's life. I'd like to hear how others balance relationships and prep.

[stayfit2008]

Chris, these are all excellent topics.

I think balance, emotional and spiritual well-being are worthwhile topics as well. Lastly, contest prep tends to become the center of one's life. I'd like to hear how others balance relationships and prep.

Thanks Tiff,..supporters and competitors like yourself would really keep a thread like this alive!

[BuckSpin]

I think balance, emotional and spiritual well-being are worthwhile topics as well. Lastly, contest prep tends to become the center of one's life. I'd like to hear how others balance relationships and prep.

Excellent post. Heck, I'm no where prep time and, using Randy's 3 legged stool analogy, lately have felt like I'm trying to balance a ladder!

[orca]

I'm in for the learning...this will be an excellent thread.

[ntrllftr]

Once I start preparing for my contest I will post exclusively in here. My surgery is in Oct. I will share as much info as possible.

As I expressed my opinion before....

Glad to hear you are having it done soon.

I for one will be keeping an eye on you from post surgery to stage time.

.

[yakabebe]

for anyone wanting to compete,..are or have competed to share your journey and gain support from other bodybuilders 035 like you. Also great for people to see what it really takes to do a prep.

I expect everyone to respect the opinions and posts of the member. If this thread is utilized correctly it can be a wealth of knowledge. Thank You

Sure. Sounds like everyones experiences will be there for those who wanna learn and get somewhere few try and even fewer achieve.

4 weeks to my State titles and 8 to the Nationals.

Now its all about diet, posing, thinking about routines, and simply getting "game-ready". Gym days are all about volume and what you think you need to do to supplement a particular body part but in all honesty - that is more mental than anything else. Unlikely to make any real difference at this stage. Now it about getting ready to showcase what you've got done.

Edit - had a thought too. I think it might be really beneficial (it would at least be to me) to have at least an indication if the methods employed, thinking and practice being used and strategies being considered by the athlete is based upon a natural or "otherwise assisted" preparation.

There is a WORLD of differences is almost every aspect of the way things get done.

[mharrislove]

Ready and willing to learn...8 months out.

[stayfit2008]

Sure. Sounds like everyones experiences will be there for those who wanna learn and get somewhere few try and even fewer achieve.

4 weeks to my State titles and 8 to the Nationals.

Now its all about diet, posing, thinking about routines, and simply getting "game-ready". Gym days are all about volume and what you think you need to do to supplement a particular body part but in all honesty - that is more mental than anything else. Unlikely to make any real difference at this stage. Now it about getting ready to showcase what you've got done.

Edit - had a thought too. I think it might be really beneficial (it would at least be to me) to have at least an indication if the methods employed, thinking and practice being used and strategies being considered by the athlete is based upon a natural or "otherwise assisted" preparation.

There is a WORLD of differences is almost every aspect of the way things get done.
Looking forward to your posts!
Ready and willing to learn...8 months out.

Dude! Long time no see! You look amazing! Whatsya been doin?

[mharrislove]

Dude! Long time no see! You look amazing! Whatsya been doin?

Hey, Stayfit... Thanks for the encouragement! I'm still doing the balancing act among work, family, and training. I moved the workouts to 4 AM to keep some of the pressure off of the family, but I'm still training like a man possessed.

Now it's time to make the painful transition from "old school teen competitor" to "old Masters competitor." But what's 25 years between comps, right? I have a feeling that contest prep will be a little different after 2 decades of sitting on the shelf, so I'm in serious learning mode right now.

[stayfit2008]

Hey, Stayfit... Thanks for the encouragement! I'm still doing the balancing act among work, family, and training. I moved the workouts to 4 AM to keep some of the pressure off of the family, but I'm still training like a man possessed.

Now it's time to make the painful transition from "old school teen competitor" to "old Masters competitor." But what's 25 years between comps, right? I have a feeling that contest prep will be a little different after 2 decades of sitting on the shelf, so I'm in serious learning mode right now.

Haha,..well never to late to jump back into the game! Will be pretty cool to watch you lean up! What comp and organization are you doing?

[mharrislove]

Haha,..well never to late to jump back into the game! Will be pretty cool to watch you lean up! What comp and organization are you doing?

My sights are fixed on the amateur OCB show, usually held in May, in Baltimore (the updated schedule for 2010 is not posted yet).

Yeah, it's going to be strange to weigh less than 200 lbs for the first time in forever, but it must be done. A 17 or 18 inch arm pumped up by 30% body fat is a fraudulent measure...it's time to get the truth of the matter. The fat suit is coming off!

(Speaking of fat...I have a date with a treadmill now, so keep in touch.)

[yakabebe]

We're coming to the US in December - Los Angeles, Vegas and New York - and was wondering if anyone is aware of any contests in these areas in that time frame?

[bustasinclair]

Subbed!!

Great idea starting this thread!

[bodyhard]

As I expressed my opinion before....

Glad to hear you are having it done soon.

I for one will be keeping an eye on you from post surgery to stage time.

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Carl I am going to follow Ed's advice to the T, I will give it my all and share everything that I can within limits.

Once the surgery is done and I am healed it's all game plan from there.

I am creeping up in weight and size, slightly bigger than my last pics, but very noticeable. Legs are growing.

I just hope I do very well, but the experience in itself should be well worth it.

[stayfit2008]

My sights are fixed on the amateur OCB show, usually held in May, in Baltimore (the updated schedule for 2010 is not posted yet).

Yeah, it's going to be strange to weigh less than 200 lbs for the first time in forever, but it must be done. A 17 or 18 inch arm pumped up by 30% body fat is a fraudulent measure...it's time to get the truth of the matter. The fat suit is coming off!

(Speaking of fat...I have a date with a treadmill now, so keep in touch.)
Remember,...natural shows really want you ripped to the gills! You got this mh!
Subbed!!

Great idea starting this thread!

I hope it inspires you enough to consider a comp sometime in the future.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

This thread could be endless. There are so many avenues to take when prepping. However there are some universal rules. One is that when you chose a trainer or just chose the route you are going to take...stick with it. You will be tempeted by impatience to jump off the track from time to time. DON'T. Drop your trainer or change directions next time out if you are not pleased with your results. Another is that you can not start too far out. I chose 20 months out....10 some to go. It's comming on me fast.


Baldie

[oldsuperman]

This thread could be endless. There are so many avenues to take when prepping. However there are some universal rules. One is that when you chose a trainer or just chose the route you are going to take...stick with it. You will be tempeted by impatience to jump off the track from time to time. DON'T. Drop your trainer or change directions next time out if you are not pleased with your results. Another is that you can not start too far out. I chose 20 months out....10 some to go. It's comming on me fast.


Baldie

I have seen this so many times and witnessed the demise of many a competitor who keeps questioning his or her trainer. Stay the course. There is history to consider with every competitor and the experience of every coach. I have never questioned my trainers or coach to another ones opinions. Nothing worse then a competitor running around asking every other lifter what he would do about this or that. And shame on the trainer and coaches that cut another trainer/coach grass! P!sses me off to the max!

Also, there are so many ways to condition and prep depending on:

1: Metabolism. How he or she metabolizes carbs, proteins. Some peeps even burn different kinds of carbs differently then others again depending on how their metabolism works. How sups work for you. How fast you burn calories. This alone is very tricky. One program will not work for another.

2: Body type. How you present yourself. You've gotta be honest here. I have a great chest, delts need work. How can improve them and yet present them looking bigger then they are, for example. Chest may be big, yet lacks cleavage. Lat inserts too high spoiling the X frame. etc.

3: Mental commitment. Most peeps don't follow through. Two reasons. First, it's fricken hard work! Second, most don't invest anything in it, so there is no value placed on it, there for they p!ss it away cause they have no investment. Also, you have to be a little, or a lot, obsessive compulsive to do this sport. You've gotta reeeeeealy want it.

4: Supplements... Now there's a decision! I don't know if any of you caught the LAST creatine thread, yet the ignorance was astounding. Also not all sups are for all peeps.

5: Health history. Particularly with older peeps. People die in this sport as they do in all sports. Well, maybe not curling, yet this sport puts a tremendous amount of mental and physical stress on the body. I've seen grown men pass out, throw up, fall down in convulsions. SCREAMING TRIMBLING ON THE GROUND WITH CRAMPS causing the paramedics to break out all their equipment thinking the guy is having a heat attack! Oh wait, that was me! I've known of guys having kidney problems because of a high protein diet and too much aspirin.

I would sugest if you're even thinking about competing, read the last thread I posted in this forum called, "Good read. Long yet worth it."

[stayfit2008]

I can see where the thread could get a little bit confusing for bodybuilders wanting to post their own journals. That was more my intentions of the thread,.I geuss what I am saying is,..a sub-forum would serve the purpose better. This way we could journal our prep and it would not be jumbled in with other bodybuilders journal.

Please excuse my verse in the computer lingo,...A sub-forum rather than a thread sticky would serve this purpose better but was advised we have too many forums already in the O35.

Maybe we can get more competitive bodybuilders post their preps in the Advanced section,..I think that would take off nicely.

[medjen]

I can see where the thread could get a little bit confusing for bodybuilders wanting to post their own journals. That was more my intentions of the thread,.I geuss what I am saying is,..a sub-forum would serve the purpose better. This way we could journal our prep and it would not be jumbled in with other bodybuilders journal.

Please excuse my verse in the computer lingo,...A sub-forum would serve this purpose better but was advised we have too many forums already in the O35.

Maybe we can get more competitive bodybuilders post their preps in the Advanced section,..I think that would take off nicely.

Perhaps those prepping for a contest could post a link in this thread to their journal. That would keep out the jumble but keep this as a central jumping off point.

[Arlecchino]

I can also edit the OP to host all of the links there, including by category, in the sammer manner DBX has done for the runner's thread. And then just PM me with a message 'update the thread dumbass' and it will happen.

[ArchAngel'73]

I can also edit the OP to host all of the links there, including by category, in the sammer manner DBX has done for the runner's thread. And then just PM me with a message 'update the thread dumbass' and it will happen.

Sent.

Perhaps those prepping for a contest could post a link in this thread to their journal. That would keep out the jumble but keep this as a central jumping off point.

Tifflex and I under the guidance of Layne Norton for our first show.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117527761&page=25

[Arlecchino]

Updated.

[stayfit2008]

Hey Eric,..my journal for my upcoming show in October will be posted in the CP forum,..heres the link buddy! :) http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=375861601&posted=1#post375861601

[namtrag]

is this the kind of thing to post in this thread? If not, let me know. I don't want this injury to derail my prep in any way! My show is 1 year out.

I tweaked my upper left groin about 3 weeks back doing wide leg presses. It bothered me some on my vacation in Mexico last week, I could feel it when pushing off the sand with my left foot while climbing up the beach. ANyway, despite taking 2 full weeks off from doing legs, I tweaked it today while doing squats at 265, I felt it click as I was raising up, and had reduce my last set to 135, and still struggled.

I had planned to do step ups next, but they hurt it as well.

I was able to do leg extensions and SLDL's with no pain.

Question, how do you guys work around it? Should I just avoid any leg exercises at all for a while, or just avoid ones that I can feel in my groin?

I had thought of doing lots of leg extensions, curls and SLDL's and avoiding squats, lunges and leg presses for a while. Heck maybe even start doing calf raises again (never do them now, been 18-20 months since I did any)

Thanks for any advice on how to work around/and or what I can do to rehab the groin pull.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Groin pull....tell me about it!! You saw my pics...right. Ice Ice Ice. No Aleve, Motrin, etc. will just make it bleed internally. Legs together on all squats, hacks, etc. I am slowly working my feet position back to normal. Sumo?? NEVER again.

Baldie

[stayfit2008]

is this the kind of thing to post in this thread? If not, let me know. I don't want this injury to derail my prep in any way! My show is 1 year out.

I tweaked my upper left groin about 3 weeks back doing wide leg presses. It bothered me some on my vacation in Mexico last week, I could feel it when pushing off the sand with my left foot while climbing up the beach. ANyway, despite taking 2 full weeks off from doing legs, I tweaked it today while doing squats at 265, I felt it click as I was raising up, and had reduce my last set to 135, and still struggled.

I had planned to do step ups next, but they hurt it as well.

I was able to do leg extensions and SLDL's with no pain.

Question, how do you guys work around it? Should I just avoid any leg exercises at all for a while, or just avoid ones that I can feel in my groin?

I had thought of doing lots of leg extensions, curls and SLDL's and avoiding squats, lunges and leg presses for a while. Heck maybe even start doing calf raises again (never do them now, been 18-20 months since I did any)

Thanks for any advice on how to work around/and or what I can do to rehab the groin pull.

Injuries are sooo frustrating,..your mind is ready for a long prep,..just got to get the body in sync. Once you get through the initial pains and aches,...your body will adjust to more strenuous training and injuries will hopefully be farther apart and less in between. At least this is what I have experienced

[BuckSpin]

Thanks for any advice on how to work around/and or what I can do to rehab the groin pull.

IMHO & severe noobness:

Pain is your body's way of saying "Houston, we have a problem". This is not the pain from a great set of forced reps that we all know & sickly seek out, but rather your body signallying you that something is wrong.

Ask yourself this: If you saw your car's engine red line, would you keep driving as fast as you could?

If yes, go ahead & lift all you want.
If no, why would you give your car more respect than your body?????

I would identify the ROM that ticks it off & chill, be it finding something else for a while or significantly reducing the load as an active therapy.

You may find, as I have, that this is ironically a great opportunity to try lifts you have never done before.

[namtrag]

Groin pull....tell me about it!! You saw my pics...right. Ice Ice Ice. No Aleve, Motrin, etc. will just make it bleed internally. Legs together on all squats, hacks, etc. I am slowly working my feet position back to normal. Sumo?? NEVER again.

Baldie

Baldie, you guessed how I strained it originally, wide stance leg presses with feet at 45 degrees, twang.

Learning to squat with feet together is going to take some doing, and my ego is going to suffer from having to do much lighter weight, but I definitely need to try it!


Injuries are sooo frustrating,..your mind is ready for a long prep,..just got to get the body in sync. Once you get through the initial pains and aches,...your body will adjust to more strenuous training and injuries will hopefully be farther apart and less in between. At least this is what I have experienced

At least it's not a torn muscle or broken bone...I should be able to work around it. I have good legs so it won't set me back too bad.

IMHO & severe noobness:

Pain is your body's way of saying "Houston, we have a problem". This is not the pain from a great set of forced reps that we all know & sickly seek out, but rather your body signallying you that something is wrong.

Ask yourself this: If you saw your car's engine red line, would you keep driving as fast as you could?

If yes, go ahead & lift all you want.
If no, why would you give your car more respect than your body?????

I would identify the ROM that ticks it off & chill, be it finding something else for a while or significantly reducing the load as an active therapy.

You may find, as I have, that this is ironically a great opportunity to try lifts you have never done before.

Yes, I found out the ROM that hurts: anything involving pushing the left leg to straighten it out. Squats, step ups, lunges, all are out for a while! I will have to get creative, but at least can do a few exercises with no twanging.

[yakabebe]

I can also edit the OP to host all of the links there, including by category, in the sammer manner DBX has done for the runner's thread. And then just PM me with a message 'update the thread dumbass' and it will happen.

Good idea.

Heres ours 'cept poor oldmanskinny has had to re-evaluate so he's delayed his show prep to next year.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117712701

[kmachate]

I'm 8 months out for the 2010 Texas Shredder Classic in Austin, Texas. Here's hoping I don't injure myself, move to another state or change jobs like I seem to have a habit of doing at the worst possible time.. LOL

The Shredder is an NPC Natural (2 years clean) show. I'll decide then if I want to enter any other non-tested shows.
As I was getting ready for the 2008 Shredder, I injured my shoulder and had to bow out. Not before buying a posing suit, though. I know a lot of Figure girls, and they recommended Cherry Bombs, as she does mens suits as well.

I paid about $18 for a simple black suit, so you can't go wrong with the price. She was very nice when I was late getting the suit, and while it took a week or so longer to get it, I was happy with it when I did. Here's her site:

http://www.cherrybombs.net/catalog/index.php

[yakabebe]

I'm 8 months out for the 2010 Texas Shredder Classic in Austin, Texas. Here's hoping I don't injure myself, move to another state or change jobs like I seem to have a habit of doing at the worst possible time.. LOL

The Shredder is an NPC Natural (2 years clean) show. I'll decide then if I want to enter any other non-tested shows.
As I was getting ready for the 2008 Shredder, I injured my shoulder and had to bow out. Not before buying a posing suit, though. I know a lot of Figure girls, and they recommended Cherry Bombs, as she does mens suits as well.

I paid about $18 for a simple black suit, so you can't go wrong with the price. She was very nice when I was late getting the suit, and while it took a week or so longer to get it, I was happy with it when I did. Here's her site:

http://www.cherrybombs.net/catalog/index.php

Good luck mate

The only thing...natural with 2 years clean. Bit of joke really, isnt it? I mean all the gains the guy brings to the stage are well and truly assisted and with good exercise and diet he's gonna be just about the same.

For mine, there should be a clear org that has no assistance in the past. Period. The assisted orgs should have a division whereby ou can enter is your used to be assisted but now are not.

[stayfit2008]

Good luck mate

The only thing...natural with 2 years clean. Bit of joke really, isnt it? I mean all the gains the guy brings to the stage are well and truly assisted and with good exercise and diet he's gonna be just about the same.

For mine, there should be a clear org that has no assistance in the past. Period. The assisted orgs should have a division whereby ou can enter is your used to be assisted but now are not.

Hey Yak,..this will be my second time competing at the NPC Ohio. It is listed as a natural event to their standards,..Those standards are, 1 year clean from gear,..Now I ask you,..is that truly natural,..HA! Regardless,..last year my skinny natural self took home three first places including an overall! We'll show em! :)

[yakabebe]

Well, I went ahead and took baldie's advice and am now journaling the weeks running down to 2 contests

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=118650871

Comments, critiques and just some good ol fashion support is most welcomed

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Natural shows....arrrrg!!! I've done 1 year clean, 3 years clean, and 5 years clean. Lie detector and or urine and or blood tested. The HGH guys love the non detector shows. I could not do the 'lifetime clean" shows. Then on top of that each has their own quirks....you can liposuction away, skin tucks and grafts, implants, oral pigment your skin, even do amino acid IV drips....all fine....Doc gives you HRT for clinicaly low Test...."You're outta here druggie". So what I am saying is READ THE RULES. Be prepared for skeptical promoters and challenges if you are Naturaly gifted. I won a nice show with a premiere organization....my lie detector and urine tests were challenged as "He can not be Natural"....cost me another $75 for an after the fact blood test and my Title and trophy were sent to me a month later WITHOUT an appology.

I chose to take my Natural physique amongst the wolves and 'takes me chances'. Nicer people IMO and no challenges.

Baldie

[stayfit2008]

Natural shows....arrrrg!!! I've done 1 year clean, 3 years clean, and 5 years clean. Lie detector and or urine and or blood tested. The HGH guys love the non detector shows. I could not do the 'lifetime clean" shows. Then on top of that each has their own quirks....you can liposuction away, skin tucks and grafts, implants, oral pigment your skin, even do amino acid IV drips....all fine....Doc gives you HRT for clinicaly low Test...."You're outta here druggie". So what I am saying is READ THE RULES. Be prepared for skeptical promoters and challenges if you are Naturaly gifted. I won a nice show with a premiere organization....my lie detector and urine tests were challenged as "He can not be Natural"....cost me another $75 for an after the fact blood test and my Title and trophy were sent to me a month later WITHOUT an appology.

I chose to take my Natural physique amongst the wolves and 'takes me chances'. Nicer people IMO and no challenges.

Baldie

Next topic we will be discussing for the day,..INTEGRITY,..;)

Which is more fullfilling,..climb to the Summit of Mt. Everest,..or take a helicopter to the top?

[ArchAngel'73]

Next topic we will be discussing for the day,..INTEGRITY,..;)

Which is more fullfilling,..climb to the Summit of Mt. Everest,..or take a helicopter to the top?

The climb of course.
I'm not touching an untested show here (Canada, eh;)) with a 10' pole. Politics up the yin yang.
As far as cheating competitors in a tested comp go... bring 'em on. My conscience is clear and it will be after I beat them too.
No better than pond scum if someone does that imo.

[erinlee01]

I am 8 weeks out from my first show - INBF New York Championship. This thread comes at a great time for me! :)

[Tifflex]

How do you go about determining posing music for the night show?

I've picked a few tunes that I like, but should I consider the audience?

[stayfit2008]

How do you go about determining posing music for the night show?

I've picked a few tunes that I like, but should I consider the audience?

I think it's much easier to pose to what you prefer,..this way the audience can appreciate not only your posing but music choice. Last NPC show I was in a female bodybuilder posed to some Bollywood Hindi music,..The routine was soo great! she made some arm and hand snake movements and stuff and it was off the charts! I now like Bollywood music! :)

[BuckSpin]

How do you go about determining posing music for the night show? I've picked a few tunes that I like, but should I consider the audience?

IMHO I would pick something that 1) I loved and 2) meant something to me. Posing to some tunes because you think it would play to the crowd & judges more, I think, would show in that your heart just was not 100% in it.

Plus, you have put yourself thru hell. Its YOUR moment. Make it very personal.

I've known mine since I made my decision & I don't care if everyone else uses the same tune. That is MY tune & MY 60 seconds (in 2 years) and it means a great deal to me, plus its very symbolic. I get goosebumps listening to it.

The show is about your body, but follow your heart for the music. It will come through in the posing.

[Tifflex]

I think it's much easier to pose to what you prefer,..this way the audience can appreciate not only your posing but music choice. Last NPC show I was in a female bodybuilder posed to some Bollywood Hindi music,..The routine was soo great! she made some arm and hand snake movements and stuff and it was off the charts! I now like Bollywood music! :)
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IMHO I would pick something that 1) I loved and 2) meant something to me. Posing to some tunes because you think it would play to the crowd & judges more, I think, would show in that your heart just was not 100% in it.

Plus, you have put yourself thru hell. Its YOUR moment. Make it very personal.

I've known mine since I made my decision & I don't care if everyone else uses the same tune. That is MY tune & MY 60 seconds (in 2 years) and it means a great deal to me, plus its very symbolic. I get goosebumps listening to it.

The show is about your body, but follow your heart for the music. It will come through in the posing.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback!

[kimsquit]

How do you go about determining posing music for the night show?

I've picked a few tunes that I like, but should I consider the audience?imo there's nothing wrong with taking the audience into consideration. For example, posing to country twang in downtown NYC might not get you the crowd reaction that posing to hiphop or metal would

...vice versa for rural events :)

unless you're one of those people who "only" listens to one specific genre (and I know you're not, Tiff), then I suspect you've already got a broad enough selection to choose from.

I will advise that you go with something instrumental rather that lyrical. Time and time again I see noobs visibly mouthing the words to their stage song like it's some bizarre bodybuilding/karaoke event :p it never leaves a good impression

I also advise that you do not design a routine around a specific piece of music (i.e flex 2...3... lunge... 2...3..) because **** happens backstage and it's pretty common for music to get lost or otherwise be unplayable, leaving you having to make do with someone else's song at the last minute

[Tifflex]

imo there's nothing wrong with taking the audience into consideration. For example, posing to country twang in downtown NYC might not get you the crowd reaction that posing to hiphop or metal would

...vice versa for rural events :)

unless you're one of those people who "only" listens to one specific genre (and I know you're not, Tiff), then I suspect you've already got a broad enough selection to choose from.

I will advise that you go with something instrumental rather that lyrical. Time and time again I see noobs visibly mouthing the words to their stage song like it's some bizarre bodybuilding/karaoke event :p it never leaves a good impression

I also advise that you do not design a routine around a specific piece of music (i.e flex 2...3... lunge... 2...3..) because **** happens backstage and it's pretty common for music to get lost or otherwise be unplayable, leaving you having to make do with someone else's song at the last minute

Great advice as usual; thanks!

[kimsquit]

Great advice as usual; thanks!


and for heaven's sake please don't resort to any of these pieces. They're so overused in posing that they've become cliches...

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(no flynn hatin' :p )


my first comp I used this:

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it got a good reaction from the crowd :)

[BuckSpin]

OMG, WHO would use O Fortuna??? Dorian Yates OWNED that in that immortal 93' Olympia routine that is one of my all-time favorites.

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OMG, WHO would use O Fortuna??? Dorian Yates OWNED that in that immortal 93' Olympia routine that is one of my all-time favorites.it's a popular piece - and it gets a lot of exposure on stage

our own flynn used it and won, so it can be done...but flynn was born to bodybuild :)

[BuckSpin]

it's a popular piece - and it gets a lot of exposure on stage. our own flynn used it and won, so it can be done...but flynn was born to bodybuild :)

Actually, my bad. Yates posed to a remix of it called "Excalibur Techno" and in 92 as well as 93.

Still, I wouldn't even dare to think of using that.....he OWNS that

[kmachate]

Good luck mate

The only thing...natural with 2 years clean. Bit of joke really, isnt it? I mean all the gains the guy brings to the stage are well and truly assisted and with good exercise and diet he's gonna be just about the same.

For mine, there should be a clear org that has no assistance in the past. Period. The assisted orgs should have a division whereby ou can enter is your used to be assisted but now are not.

I agree, the NPC "Natural" shows is sort of a joke. It used to be OCB (5+ years) but Dave Goodin switched over to NPC, so I have to respect that. As if I could do anything about it in the first place..LOL

I'll do a few natural shows first so I can get some experience and by the time I hit 40 I might be ready for non-tested shows.. LOL

[oldsuperman]

I agree, the NPC "Natural" shows is sort of a joke. It used to be OCB (5+ years) but Dave Goodin switched over to NPC, so I have to respect that. As if I could do anything about it in the first place..LOL

I'll do a few natural shows first so I can get some experience and by the time I hit 40 I might be ready for non-tested shows.. LOL

Dave is an NPC promoter of the NPC Texas Shredder and great show. I don't know if he ever switched over from another organization. I don't think so recently. If you look at the winners of his show, not too many long term natty's there on his stage.

Dave Goodwin! I think the guy is great! I respect him and he is a friend of mine, yet the man that should have won that pro card IMO and most others, is Chris Fillippelli. He should have won my class too and Masters National, IMO. Check out his pic compared to Dave's below. Same height and about a 40lbs difference!

Well. There are so few credible "Natural" comps NPC and other organizations. We call the NPC Natural show here, The Vancouver "NOT SO" Natural, LOL!.

The point is, what is truly "natural"? What about the guys who's god blessed them with high natural test. If we were going to make it really fair, they should have different classes based on test levels in men. Mine was 126 the last time it was tested. Randy, Most Muscular, says his is over 1100! Why shouldn't they allow me to either boost mine to meet his level, or create a class for us "limpy dicky" men?

What about the guy with high blood pressure and take hydrochlorothiazide for it? It's a banned diuretic for bbing shows and the most prescribed men to men for HBP. I'm on as well as many guys here in this forum, HRT and technically banned from not only bbing comps, yet any organized sport the uses the anti doping creed which almost all accept?

Did you guys know that even "non tested" NPC show support the anti doping creed used by the NFL, WWE, Olympics, and most all professional sports. Did you know that they can and sometimes do test for drugs at non tested shows too? Even the Olympia from time to time requests their athletes to be tested?

So, I don't really know where this is going except who gives a sh!t. Do the best you can and if you can sleep at night with a clear continuous, then that's all that matters! And to the others that judge me AND the others in our sport? FV(K EM!

Well...... With that said, I'm going off to the hot tub and cook a while. ;)

[Hi_Volume]

The point is, what is truly "natural"? What about the guys who's god blessed them with high natural test. If we were going to make it really fair, they should have different classes based on test levels in men. Mine was 126 the last time it was tested. Randy, Most Muscular, says his is over 1100! Why shouldn't they allow me to either boost mine to meat his level, or create a class for us "limpy dicky" men?

What about the guy with high blood pressure and take hydrochlorothiazide for it? It's a banned diuretic for bbing shows and the most prescribed men to men for HBP. I'm on as well as many guys here in this forum, HRT and technically banned from not only bbing comps, yet any organized sport the uses the anti doping creed which almost all accept?

D ;)


I am not sticking up for the natural organizations but "many" guys are getting HRT with healthy T levels. Many of us need it but just as many abuse it.

[230plus]

Wow...I am gonna follow this thread to a "T". I plan on probably doing a contest next summer-ish myself. I just got off a Disney Cruise yesterday with the family. Buffets and eating 24/7...I had a blast, but I got some work to do. Game on...as of tommorrow! Anyway...great thread.

[oldsuperman]

Wow...I am gonna follow this thread to a "T". I plan on probably doing a contest next summer-ish myself. I just got off a Disney Cruise yesterday with the family. Buffets and eating 24/7...I had a blast, but I got some work to do. Game on...as of tommorrow! Anyway...great thread.

I LOVE CRUISES!!!!!!!! I'm going on my 4th Eastern Caribbean cruise this winter! I actually lose weight on cruises cause I keep so busy! Drives my wife crazy! LOL! :D

[Flynn]

(no flynn hatin' :p )

I remember you cautioning me about using O'fortuna when I was in BC :). Can you believe that was two years ago. I'll have to find the video.

our own flynn used it and won, so it can be done...but flynn was born to bodybuild :)

I don't know about born to be, but I thought its use was pretty effective (at least the audience did) - worked on the mix for quite a while. As mentioned, use something that moves and inspire you, but take into consideration the audience as CG stated if that's important to you.

A competitor (female) had a great routine, using a French period piece by Josephine Baker. Unfortunately, the audience's reaction was muted except yours truly. Nevertheless, she looked great doing it and when the dust settles, she will have the DVD as a reminder.

Finally - Practice, practice, and practice some more :)!!

[stayfit2008]

I remember you cautioning me about using O'fortuna when I was in BC :). Can you believe that was two years ago. I'll have to find the video.



I don't know about born to be, but I thought its use was pretty effective (at least the audience did) - worked on the mix for quite a while. As mentioned, use something that moves and inspire you, but take into consideration the audience as CG stated if that's important to you.

A competitor (female) had a great routine, using a French period piece by Josephine Baker. Unfortunately, the audience's reaction was muted except yours truly. Nevertheless, she looked great doing it and when the dust settles, she will have the DVD as a reminder.

Finally - Practice, practice, and practice some more :)!!

Flynn,..whats new! I'm in the same boat looking for some appropriate posing music for my build!