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CLK-GTR
08-02-2009, 08:46 AM
I know I'm not getting down fast enough after the flick, but not sure if I just need to keep working on flexibility or if I'm doing something wrong. I can OH squat fine but I can't drop down quickly like I can with a back squat.

50kg I find quite easy, and today was the first time I've done 60kg.

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J.L.C.
08-02-2009, 08:14 PM
It looks like there is a lot of upper body and arms being used to get the bar up - that's gonna make it very difficult to get under with any speed.

CLK-GTR
08-03-2009, 01:43 PM
should i be coming up off the tips of my toes as much as i am??

dcamnc
08-03-2009, 01:52 PM
honestly, you just need to practice more. I would just use the bar only and really drill technique, and add weight slowly. A coach would work wonders, but I know not everyone wants one or has one nearby. I assume you've been watching videos of snatches. Just keep working with light weight, and comparing yourself to the vids. Read all you can about the lifts if you haven't already been. You look pretty built, so you have a fine base to work from.

SquatzAndPuke
08-03-2009, 01:56 PM
You have quite a few technique flaws, so it's kind of hard to break it all down...

Here are some pointers:

1)The reason you can't get lower is because your feet go way too wide. Your receiving position should be the same as your (olympic) squat stance. I'd recommend working some overhead squats so you get more comfortable and used to the proper receiving position.

2)The bar moves way too far away from your body. Once the bar passes your knees you need to focus on pulling it into your legs with your lats. The bar should practically slide up your body the whole way.

3)Use your legs more, and our upper body less. This will get easier once you get more comfortable overhead squatting.

CLK-GTR
08-03-2009, 02:05 PM
thanks all - repped everyone. I have watched plenty of videos and have really just taught myself...and its difficult to see where you're going wrong on something like snatches if you a) dont always have a camera on hand and b) dont know what you're looking for anyway. i did ask two of the senior trainers if they could do a session with me but they both pretty bluntly said they dont know the first thing about oly lifting. theres one guy who competes but he's hardly ever there....so im pretty much on my own.

the 60kg felt almost like i shouldnt have been lifting it. i think next time ill keep the bar much lighter and really concentrate on keeping the bar close in and flicking it up with my legs

baznguy
08-06-2009, 03:32 PM
you need to work on your shoulder flexibility a bit more. you're not catching the weight under you and this will come to a point where you can't go any heavier. you're feet are TOO wide when you're catching the weight. Also it seem as though you're catching the weight a bit in front of you.

ChadWilliam1
08-10-2009, 11:39 AM
I think the bar is going in front of you because of your starting postion. To me it looks like your shoulders are too far over the bar. Some people lift like this but they are in a better position for the second pull. Also arch your back more and lock your shoulders down until you shrug.

Here is how I would suggest correcting it. Lower your ass, tighten your back, curl your wrist under and pull the bar sloqly off the floor. Make it more off a deadlift to your knees then let the bar rip for your second pull.

crackyflipside
08-10-2009, 02:09 PM
Go to Home Depot or Lowes and go to the lumber section, got a 2x12, cut a piece out about 12" so it looks like a square more or less.

Buy a wooden dowel (a wooden stick) that is about 5ft tall and looks like it can take a beating.

Drill a hole in the center of the square piece of wood so that the wooden dowel fits snugly, if it's loose than get creative with some strong glue or duct tape.

You now should have a tall stick with a wooden base.

Place the wooden stick about two inches in front of the barbell sleeve.

Lift without hitting the stick.

madaozeki
08-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Another thought if you're not quite handy enough for the above:

1. First, obtain about 25 pounds (~10 kg) of Plutonium239 at your local supplier. A nuclear power plant is not recommended, as you'll have to extract and separate it from spent fuel rods, and it's a messy job. Besides, large quantities of missing Plutonium tends to make plant engineers unhappy. We suggest that you contact one of the former Soviet Republics, or perhaps the Junior Achievement in your neighborhood.

2. Fashion together a metal enclosure to house the device. Most common varieties of sheet metal can be bent to disguise this enclosure as, for example; a briefcase, a lunch pail, or a Buick. Do not use tinfoil or gum wrappers.

3. Arrange the Plutonium into two hemispheral shapes, separated by about 4 cm. Use rubber cement to hold the Plutonium dust together.

4. Now get about 100 pounds (44 kg) of trinitrotoluene (TNT). Gelignite is much better, but messier to work with. Your helpful hardware man or local Bomb Depot store will be happy to provide you with this item.

5. Pack the explosives around the hemisphere arrangement constructed in step 4. If you cannot find Gelignite, feel free to use TNT packed in with Playdoh or any modeling clay. Colored clay is acceptable, but there is no need to get fancy at this point.

6. Wrap this entire structure very tightly with duct tape. Use a whole roll. This shall be the neutron reflector and inertial containment.

7. Insert the assembly from step 6 into the enclosure made in step 2. Use a strong glue such as "Crazy Glue" to bind the hemisphere arrangement against the enclosure to prevent accidental detonation which might result from vibration or mishandling.

8. To fabricate a detonator for the device, obtain a radio controlled (RC) servo mechanism, as found in RC model airplanes and cars. With a modicum of effort, a remote plunger can be made that will strike a detonator cap to effect a small explosion. These detonation caps can be found in the electrical supply section of your local supermarket. We recommend the "Blast-O-Mactic" brand because they are no deposit-no return.

9. Now hide the completed device from the neighbors and children. The garage is not recommended because of high humidity and the extreme range of temperatures experienced there. Nuclear materials corrode easily, and devices have been known to spontaneously detonate in these unstable conditions. The hall closet or under the sofa will be perfectly suitable.

10. Now you are the proud owner of a working nuclear device! It is a great ice-breaker at parties; is nice to cozy around on a cold night; and in a pinch, can be used for National Defense.

11. Snatch!

CLK-GTR
08-10-2009, 03:16 PM
lol

both great ideas. not sure how feasible they are though ;)

i cant really cart a 5ft wooden stick on the train every week but i figure i can use a couple of plates stacked on their sides with a posture stick/barbell shoved on its end in the hole

raffiki
08-10-2009, 06:19 PM
Another thought if you're not quite handy enough for the above:

1. First, obtain about 25 pounds (~10 kg) of Plutonium239 at your local supplier. A nuclear power plant is not recommended, as you'll have to extract and separate it from spent fuel rods, and it's a messy job. Besides, large quantities of missing Plutonium tends to make plant engineers unhappy. We suggest that you contact one of the former Soviet Republics, or perhaps the Junior Achievement in your neighborhood.

2. Fashion together a metal enclosure to house the device. Most common varieties of sheet metal can be bent to disguise this enclosure as, for example; a briefcase, a lunch pail, or a Buick. Do not use tinfoil or gum wrappers.

3. Arrange the Plutonium into two hemispheral shapes, separated by about 4 cm. Use rubber cement to hold the Plutonium dust together.

4. Now get about 100 pounds (44 kg) of trinitrotoluene (TNT). Gelignite is much better, but messier to work with. Your helpful hardware man or local Bomb Depot store will be happy to provide you with this item.

5. Pack the explosives around the hemisphere arrangement constructed in step 4. If you cannot find Gelignite, feel free to use TNT packed in with Playdoh or any modeling clay. Colored clay is acceptable, but there is no need to get fancy at this point.

6. Wrap this entire structure very tightly with duct tape. Use a whole roll. This shall be the neutron reflector and inertial containment.

7. Insert the assembly from step 6 into the enclosure made in step 2. Use a strong glue such as "Crazy Glue" to bind the hemisphere arrangement against the enclosure to prevent accidental detonation which might result from vibration or mishandling.

8. To fabricate a detonator for the device, obtain a radio controlled (RC) servo mechanism, as found in RC model airplanes and cars. With a modicum of effort, a remote plunger can be made that will strike a detonator cap to effect a small explosion. These detonation caps can be found in the electrical supply section of your local supermarket. We recommend the "Blast-O-Mactic" brand because they are no deposit-no return.

9. Now hide the completed device from the neighbors and children. The garage is not recommended because of high humidity and the extreme range of temperatures experienced there. Nuclear materials corrode easily, and devices have been known to spontaneously detonate in these unstable conditions. The hall closet or under the sofa will be perfectly suitable.

10. Now you are the proud owner of a working nuclear device! It is a great ice-breaker at parties; is nice to cozy around on a cold night; and in a pinch, can be used for National Defense.

11. Snatch!

Ok I did it. Now what?

The_cannibal
08-10-2009, 06:29 PM
Ok I did it. Now what?

Build 4 more of them. Then, dispose them in a circle, at exactly the same distance from each other. At the center, put a couple of kilograms of Lithium Hydride. The hydrogen in this chemical will have to be deuterium and tritium, not regular hydrogen. Now if you can get all 5 A-bombs to explode at exactly the same time, you now have an H-bomb, which is nearly 1000 times more powerful than an A-bomb (the energy produced by all 5 A-bomb create a nuclear fusion in the deuterium present in the LiH).

r_graz
08-10-2009, 06:39 PM
Another thought if you're not quite handy enough for the above:

1. First, obtain about 25 pounds (~10 kg) of Plutonium239 at your local supplier. A nuclear power plant is not recommended, as you'll have to extract and separate it from spent fuel rods, and it's a messy job. Besides, large quantities of missing Plutonium tends to make plant engineers unhappy. We suggest that you contact one of the former Soviet Republics, or perhaps the Junior Achievement in your neighborhood.

2. Fashion together a metal enclosure to house the device. Most common varieties of sheet metal can be bent to disguise this enclosure as, for example; a briefcase, a lunch pail, or a Buick. Do not use tinfoil or gum wrappers.

3. Arrange the Plutonium into two hemispheral shapes, separated by about 4 cm. Use rubber cement to hold the Plutonium dust together.

4. Now get about 100 pounds (44 kg) of trinitrotoluene (TNT). Gelignite is much better, but messier to work with. Your helpful hardware man or local Bomb Depot store will be happy to provide you with this item.

5. Pack the explosives around the hemisphere arrangement constructed in step 4. If you cannot find Gelignite, feel free to use TNT packed in with Playdoh or any modeling clay. Colored clay is acceptable, but there is no need to get fancy at this point.

6. Wrap this entire structure very tightly with duct tape. Use a whole roll. This shall be the neutron reflector and inertial containment.

7. Insert the assembly from step 6 into the enclosure made in step 2. Use a strong glue such as "Crazy Glue" to bind the hemisphere arrangement against the enclosure to prevent accidental detonation which might result from vibration or mishandling.

8. To fabricate a detonator for the device, obtain a radio controlled (RC) servo mechanism, as found in RC model airplanes and cars. With a modicum of effort, a remote plunger can be made that will strike a detonator cap to effect a small explosion. These detonation caps can be found in the electrical supply section of your local supermarket. We recommend the "Blast-O-Mactic" brand because they are no deposit-no return.

9. Now hide the completed device from the neighbors and children. The garage is not recommended because of high humidity and the extreme range of temperatures experienced there. Nuclear materials corrode easily, and devices have been known to spontaneously detonate in these unstable conditions. The hall closet or under the sofa will be perfectly suitable.

10. Now you are the proud owner of a working nuclear device! It is a great ice-breaker at parties; is nice to cozy around on a cold night; and in a pinch, can be used for National Defense.

11. Snatch!
Couple of questions:

1. I couldn't get my hands on Plutonium 239 (Kazakhstan was out), but my aunt left me a copious amount of Uranium 235 in her will. Any tips on modifying the plan to construct a comparable device?

2. Would this be a useful training tool for the clean & jerk as well as the snatch?

AusLifter06
08-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Ok I did it. Now what?

Add weight!

SquatzAndPuke
08-10-2009, 07:07 PM
Ok I did it. Now what?

Start talking in a Kim Jong-Il voice.