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christof1
07-12-2009, 08:12 PM
in your opinion, how many grams of fat is too low. (no matter the calorie intake). what is the lowest amount of fat grams that you can go without injuring your body?

BecomeLegendary
07-13-2009, 07:50 AM
I would keep it at atleast 10% of your total calories. 15-20% is optimal. I'm guessing you are on a performance diet or a lifestyle diet? (Lots of carbs, protein, minimal fat.) This is what I do, but then again I will probably be a nutritionist when I get older.

RealMenDeadLift
07-13-2009, 08:24 AM
I would keep it at atleast 10% of your total calories. 15-20% is optimal. I'm guessing you are on a performance diet or a lifestyle diet? (Lots of carbs, protein, minimal fat.) This is what I do, but then again I will probably be a nutritionist when I get older.

high carb diets ftw, if people would just not be so worried about tEh faTz and move to high carb intake and see their performance go through the roof it would do wonders for the world of fitness

BecomeLegendary
07-13-2009, 09:04 AM
high carb diets ftw, if people would just not be so worried about tEh faTz and move to high carb intake and see their performance go through the roof it would do wonders for the world of fitness

repped. true that.

starcraftpwns
07-13-2009, 09:45 AM
so how about total fat grams. what would u guys say is the lowest u can go.

and yes i am trying to do a high carb diet for ton of energy

christof1
07-13-2009, 10:59 AM
[QUOTE=starcraftpwns;356520751]so how about total fat grams. what would u guys say is the lowest u can go.

BecomeLegendary
07-13-2009, 12:03 PM
I would say 20-30 grams per day for most people. Depends on body weight, calorie intake, activity level, ect.

starcraftpwns
07-13-2009, 12:52 PM
I would say 20-30 grams per day for most people. Depends on body weight, calorie intake, activity level, ect.

okay cause im having 30 a day. but im excersising alot! should i bump it up to 40 or 50

caa5000
07-13-2009, 01:14 PM
I'd personally aim for the 20% range. As long as you're getting your fish oils and a splash of nutty oil I don't see the need for much more. Plus, you'll easily get plenty if you eat nuts, red meat, fatty fish etc etc

x Idealist x
07-13-2009, 01:44 PM
I agree with the above, 20% would be the lowest I would go, I believe low fat diets result in lower test levels which I think would be working against you in the long run. Since you want to do a High Carb why not go with 25% Protein, 55% Carbs and 20% Fats, I have seen this ratio work really well for people that are very active.

Al Shades
07-13-2009, 09:33 PM
high carb diets ftw, if people would just not be so worried about tEh faTz and move to high carb intake and see their performance go through the roof it would do wonders for the world of fitness

lol, as if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets.

Real funny stuff.

papasmurf2217
07-13-2009, 09:39 PM
lol, as if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets.

Real funny stuff.

That seems to be everyone's fear on this site for whatever reason.

RealMenDeadLift
07-14-2009, 04:22 AM
lol, as if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets.

Real funny stuff.

You seemed to have missed the "in the world of fitness" part, I was speaking within context. Nice try though

IraHays
07-14-2009, 08:07 AM
lol, as if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets.

Real funny stuff.

lol

Al Shades
07-15-2009, 06:28 AM
You seemed to have missed the "in the world of fitness" part, I was speaking within context. Nice try though

lol

As if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets in the world of fitness.

RealMenDeadLift
07-15-2009, 05:08 PM
lol

As if there is a shortage of people on high carb diets in the world of fitness.

have you spent any time at all reading these forums? there is an entire section for keto, and when I say high carb i also mean low fat ~15%, 20 at the most. No, there definetly is a shortage

Al Shades
07-15-2009, 06:19 PM
have you spent any time at all reading these forums? there is an entire section for keto, and when I say high carb i also mean low fat ~15%, 20 at the most. No, there definetly is a shortage

What's your point? Why shouldn't there be a section for low carb diets?

If everyone was doing low carb, as you imply, then there would be no need for a separate low carb section outside of the main nutrition section.

In fact, maybe they would make a separate high carb section.

High carb generally implies low fat, and vice versa.

I've been reading this site since 2004, so take it from me: The high carbers greatly outnumber the low carbers. If it's true in bodybuilding, then it's all the more true of other sports and certainly of the general population, even the "athletic" population.

determined4000
07-15-2009, 06:40 PM
What's your point? Why shouldn't there be a section for low carb diets?

If everyone was doing low carb, as you imply, then there would be no need for a separate low carb section outside of the main nutrition section.

In fact, maybe they would make a separate high carb section.

High carb generally implies low fat, and vice versa.

I've been reading this site since 2004, so take it from me: The high carbers greatly outnumber the low carbers. If it's true in bodybuilding, then it's all the more true of other sports and certainly of the general population, even the "athletic" population.

there is no optimal macro ratio
Only what is optimal for individuls
Just becuase more people (nd the general populous) are high carb, as you suggest, does tht make it better. Based on the populous (which is largely overweight/obese), it would appear to be inferior.

Acutally I think we know the problem with the generl populous is that their macors are high calorie, low exercise (lol). I could care less if the whole world eats like I eat or if I m the only person in the world with my diet. All I care about is providing myself with wht I feel is proper nutrition and if it is helping me reach my goals.

RealMenDeadLift
07-15-2009, 06:58 PM
What's your point? Why shouldn't there be a section for low carb diets?

If everyone was doing low carb, as you imply, then there would be no need for a separate low carb section outside of the main nutrition section.

In fact, maybe they would make a separate high carb section.

High carb generally implies low fat, and vice versa.

I've been reading this site since 2004, so take it from me: The high carbers greatly outnumber the low carbers. If it's true in bodybuilding, then it's all the more true of other sports and certainly of the general population, even the "athletic" population.

What is YOUR point? you started this exchange, and high carb does not generally imply low fat unless the trainee makes a conscious effort in using low fat carb and protein sources.

And of course other sports have high carb diets, that is due to the necessity of high carbohydrate intake for performance. Carbophobia is rather rampant among the "figure" athlete scene, not just on these boards but every where.