Best Testosterone Boosting Supplement?

[admin]

If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

[RUTHL3SS]

As in a natural test booster?

[SpongeTom]

As in a natural test booster?

STOKED was good.

[jcollins28]

subscribed

[Persi@n]

on 1st page.

[Wearwolf51]

In order-
LG- T-911
Fusion Bodybuilding- ZEUS
CL- Blue Up Stim Free
Gaspari-Novadex XT

[cncman]

hearing good things about novedex, would like to know why it's effective here

[2high2die]

Strength gains and vascularity were rediculous on stoked! Can't wait to use it again.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

In order-
LG- T-911
Fusion Bodybuilding- ZEUS
CL- Blue Up Stim Free
Gaspari-Novadex XT

yes, Blue Up stacked with Blue Gene is unstoppable :)

[arshah]

what is the difference between blue up and blue gene?

[NeoRudyx]

Supremacy!!

[Wearwolf51]

hearing good things about novedex, would like to know why it's effective here

I stacked it with blue up and Dymatize Z Force, worked well considering my training was effed around that time.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

what is the difference between blue up and blue gene?
Blue Up is a natural test booster. Blue Gene is a PH alternative for lean mass gains and overall health product.

I stacked it with blue up and Dymatize Z Force, worked well considering my training was effed around that time.

glad you enjoyed blue up, stacks well with many products, as does Blue Gene

[Felonist]

In on first......

Pleasantly surprised on Novedex... felt animalistic... although ran it with mitotropin Id like to run it alone to get a better feel....

[Kvothe]

most test natural boosters rely on anti-estrogen ingredients and a couple alleged test boosters like zma and tribulus (i dont think zma and tribulus work).

I'd stick to natural anti-estrogens like DIM and chrysin (extracts from broccoli and whatnot).

Thus my recommendation is Olympian Labs DIM.

[nni]

the best one is activate xtreme. without a doubt.

[yourname2221]

Activate xtreme and novedex was the best t-booster combo i used for strength gains.

but as a standalone nothing compares to AX for that alpha feeling.

DS has a fan for life

[Methodical4u]

i've spent a lot of time online reading articles on "natural" test boosters and every one of them came out to be total BS. Many of them have a lot of Ginseng in them to make you feel more energy or whatever.

[Kvothe]

the best one is activate xtreme. without a doubt.

yeah i did a bit of research and i was seriously considering getting that, but then i figured that i get enough zinc and their compound is similar to DIM, so in terms of price... AX: $38/120 caps... DIM: $26/120 caps (serving size is comaprable).

[MBSowards]

We're starting early on this one I see. :p

You can't really go wrong with:

Activate Xtreme
T-Bol
Bio Forge

[Supplement-Slut]

on 1st page.

x2.

[Dracoy]

what is the difference between blue up and blue gene?

Stack these two together and you are looking at awesomeness :p

[drxmn]

the best one is activate xtreme. without a doubt.

Yeah, I tend to go with supplements that actually work, and arent a bunch of "flavor of the month" BS, like some companies like to put up. You know, ones that are well formulated and actually proven. Activate Xtreme being one, Novedex being another, though in different ways.

[MBSowards]

I wish this thread hadn't been made. There are far too many reps that will continually post biased posts in this thread, just like the others.

This entire section has the best intentions at heart but each and every thread has fallen prey to the rep infestation. At least in the others it is somewhat consumer based with the reps usually only posting after someone has said something about their product with praise for being a customer, etc.

So far within the first page I am not even sure if a non company rep has posted a product yet...

"What is the difference between Blue Gene and Blue Up?"
"Stack them and you're looking at awesomeness!"

Seriously? I understand how frustrating it gets when someone asks a question about two products that, outside of having Blue in their name, share next to nothing in common, but why even reply?

Honestly "best" is an opinion, and while there will be very few (notice I didn't say any before you post saying you're the exception) company reps that will recommend a competitors product, it's likely guaranteed that more reps will post in this thread than consumers.

This rant has pretty much been made in all of the other "best" threads, so I deemed it necessary.

[SwolenONE]

T-Bol
diesel Test
ActX
Mass FX
Primal Male

all worked great, but I dont have a clear favorite

[Kyle.Lgk]

the best one is activate xtreme. without a doubt.

Activate xtreme and novedex was the best t-booster combo i used for strength gains.
but as a standalone nothing compares to AX for that alpha feeling.
DS has a fan for life

x2 ... Activate Xtreme / Novedex XT is the best stack Ive ever ran

Going to run T-Bol / Hyperdrolx2 soon, high expectations... although I still think Novedex Xt (ATD) is probably the strongest AI, I prefer to avoid the side effects :)

[Methodical4u]

If I have a problem with aggressiveness, would T-bol be something to stay away from?

[Kyle.Lgk]

If I have a problem with aggressiveness, would T-bol be something to stay away from?

yea, probably

[jjl5098]

Activate xtreme...hands down

[joverfield]

There are a lot of test boosters I can't take since they will cause a positive test result in any PL fed that does testing in accordance with WADA guidelines. That said, Tribustol by NES is amazing! I have only been on it a week, and the recovery time after workouts is unbelievable. I know a lot of people don't think any tribulus products work, but this one seems to be exactly as described for me so far. I know others that have had amazing results with this as well. It tests clean for any sport, and is produced in an FDA approved lab. I highly recommend this just from my short term experience with it.

[blinkingliights]

animal test was pretty good

[|ceman]

If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

I'd have to go with a product that has clinical research trials showing that it works and not just some herbal cocktail that the good bro's recommend.

[Supplement-Slut]

duhhhh...PLAYBOY!!

Boosts test levels like no other :)

[luhb.dub]

I'd have to go with a product that has clinical research trials showing that it works and not just some herbal cocktail that the good bro's recommend.

even clinical research can be biased, a lot of the the research is done funded by the company producing the product. Many pharmaceutical and supplement companies are guilty of fraudulent "scientific studies." Many companies also have legitimate studies supporting their product(s) the problem is that just having 1-2 studies for a specific formula does not constitute as hard proof that that does what it claims. Good scientific data is backed up by the number of times it can be repeated whilst yielding similar results.

[|ceman]

even clinical research can be biased, a lot of the the research is done funded by the company producing the product. Many pharmaceutical and supplement companies are guilty of fraudulent "scientific studies." Many companies also have legitimate studies supporting their product(s) the problem is that just having 1-2 studies for a specific formula does not constitute as hard proof that that does what it claims. Good scientific data is backed up by the number of times it can be repeated whilst yielding similar results.

First of all, without research grants from supplement companies, universities would not be spending the tens of thousands needed to properly design and administer a study. The grant money has to come from somewhere. To think otherwise is just being naive.

And while some research can be bogus, the peer review process ensures that other scientists can review the design, methods, results and conclusions. This helps to ensure that no funny business is going on.

Keep in mind that a proper clinical to help the consumer should be on the finished product, not on certain key ingredients that may not even exist in the correct doses or extracts in the finished product.

And finally, repeating the study different times is a good way to ensure that the product does do what it says. Gaspari Nutrition's Novedex XT has been clinically tested, peer reviewed and not just one clinical done, but 3 separate Research trials.

I'm only aware of one other testosterone booster that even had one clinical done, and none that have had three. And some good bros on the boards telling you some other product is 'awesome' shouldn't count for a hill of beans without some proof to back it up in the form of clinical research.

[MBSowards]

I'd have to go with a product that has clinical research trials showing that it works and not just some herbal cocktail that the good bro's recommend.


First of all, without research grants from supplement companies, universities would not be spending the tens of thousands needed to properly design and administer a study. The grant money has to come from somewhere. To think otherwise is just being naive.

And while some research can be bogus, the peer review process ensures that other scientists can review the design, methods, results and conclusions. This helps to ensure that no funny business is going on.

Keep in mind that a proper clinical to help the consumer should be on the finished product, not on certain key ingredients that may not even exist in the correct doses or extracts in the finished product.

And finally, repeating the study different times is a good way to ensure that the product does do what it says. Gaspari Nutrition's Novedex XT has been clinically tested, peer reviewed and not just one clinical done, but 3 separate Research trials.

I'm only aware of one other testosterone booster that even had one clinical done, and none that have had three. And some good bros on the boards telling you some other product is 'awesome' shouldn't count for a hill of beans without some proof to back it up in the form of clinical research.

I recommend publishing the clinical research in the supplement log section.

That way you don't have to deal with people who question the validity of a clinical trial and can go with the more proven, trustworthy "check the logs bro."

[|ceman]

I recommend publishing the clinical research in the supplement log section.

That way you don't have to deal with people who question the validity of a clinical trial and can go with the more proven, trustworthy "check the logs bro."

This thread will NOT go the way of the other "best of" threads. Clinical research owns logs. Spread the word.

[freudslip]

Novedex xt by far! I'm not currently using it as I don't truly believe it's a natural test booster. It's not a prohormone, and it does increase your own natty test productuction, but ATD and 6 oxo arent exactly "naturally occuring".

[DCtrainer]

Anybody heard of NX Labs' T3? nout to pick a bottle up...

[Animaul]

Im 20 years old do you guys reckon that is too young to be using test boosters?

[enswalters]

Musclepharm Battle Fuel.

[style_Rz]

For me is:
Novedex XT
and T-Bol.

Really wanted to try the Activate Extreme or MASSFX but unfortunately cannot get them in AUS without importing zzzz :(.

Novedex XT I think is really effective for my toning and strength, but it made me quite lethargic, easily pissed off and kind of felt a bit of foggy memory.

[str0kerace]

Only taken 2 testosterone boosters and it was simultaneously. Anabolic Pump and Prime by USPLabs. Didn't notice a single thing with the stack aside from having road rage driving home every damn day with all the retards on the road.

[WhiteRob1984]

I'm taking T-Bomb II and I love it! The only thing I am unsure of is how long to run it for, because it doesn't mention anything about it, lol.

[joverfield]

The only test booster that I have used in the past (prior to this year) that worked was Novadex XT. The best results I had using this was when I was healing from an injury. Novadex actually allowed me to keep my strength when I had to severely limit my lifts for over a couple of months. I then had to take six months off of lifting after surgery. When I was able to start lifting I took it again and made quick gains. In the span of six months post surgery my bench went from 185 to 365 while I lost 30 pounds. When I did this I took the max allowable dosage with no side effects (even acne). The most I have been able to get out of any other test booster was an enlarged prostate. :) Not a single other product I tried worked for me, and some even made me feel weaker.

[stEam_B()at]

i dont know about you guys.. "but" ..Im still using "DIESEL TEST".. never fails to amaze me on what this stuff does and 110% Natural :)

[TNote]

Only taken 2 testosterone boosters and it was simultaneously. Anabolic Pump and Prime by USPLabs. Didn't notice a single thing with the stack aside from having road rage driving home every damn day with all the retards on the road.
lol. neither are test boosters

I'm taking T-Bomb II and I love it! The only thing I am unsure of is how long to run it for, because it doesn't mention anything about it, lol.
strong placebo

[WhiteRob1984]

lol. neither are test boosters

strong placebo
How so?

[THEHUGE]

lol. neither are test boosters

strong placebo

LMAO


How so?

Facepalm.

[WhiteRob1984]

LMAO



Facepalm.
Umm?

[TNote]

I'm taking T-Bomb II and I love it! The only thing I am unsure of is how long to run it for, because it doesn't mention anything about it, lol.


How so?


Umm?

T-Bomb II is doing nothing significant for you. You are experiencing the placebo effect (which the supplement industry for the most part relies on). You're believing the product is working therefor it's working (in your eyes). I guarantee if you got pre/post blood work you would notice little to no difference in free and total testosterone production.

[|ceman]

T-Bomb II is doing nothing significant for you. You are experiencing the placebo effect (which the supplement industry for the most part relies on). You're believing the product is working therefor it's working (in your eyes). I guarantee if you got pre/post blood work you would notice little to no difference in free and total testosterone production.

Test boosters are a great way for companies to take advantage of placebo, as most people will not pay to have the blood work done.

This is where you can trust a company that has done clinical research on the product and it really does do what it says.

[Supplement-Slut]

Only taken 2 testosterone boosters and it was simultaneously. Anabolic Pump and Prime by USPLabs. Didn't notice a single thing with the stack aside from having road rage driving home every damn day with all the retards on the road.

Lmao!!

[jorgemontenegro]

activate xtreme
t-force

(have not tried bioforge or t-bol yet)

[WhiteRob1984]

T-Bomb II is doing nothing significant for you. You are experiencing the placebo effect (which the supplement industry for the most part relies on). You're believing the product is working therefor it's working (in your eyes). I guarantee if you got pre/post blood work you would notice little to no difference in free and total testosterone production.
I see, however, I still see/feel effects from this product. I can also say one of it's main ingredients (tribulus) has been clinically researched and has been proven to raise natural testosterone levels/production. I can also say that a buddy of mine who is a personal trainer at LFF had bloodwork done before and after taking tribulus and longjack and saw a significant gain in his testosterone levels.

If you don't like T-Bomb II, what product do you recommend then as the "best" out there?

[|ceman]

I see, however, I still see/feel effects from this product. I can also say one of it's main ingredients (tribulus) has been clinically researched and has been proven to raise natural testosterone levels/production. I can also say that a buddy of mine who is a personal trainer at LFF had bloodwork done before and after taking tribulus and longjack and saw a significant gain in his testosterone levels.

If you don't like T-Bomb II, what product do you recommend then as the "best" out there?

Can you please provide a link to the clinical research that proved tribulus to raise testosterone levels or production? I've never seen it.

[WhiteRob1984]

Can you please provide a link to the clinical research that proved tribulus to raise testosterone levels or production? I've never seen it.
Sure, with a simple Google search here's what I found...

EDIT - I removed the links, lol.

"Tribulus terristris
A standardized whole herb preparation of Tribulus terrestris, developed at the Chemical Pharmaceutical Research Institute in Bulgaria shown in clinical trials to increase sex drive, and sexual performance, testosterone levels, sperm count and muscle strength (as demonstrated in tests by the Bulgarian Olympic weightlifting team). Tribulus has been used in India and China for centuries to prevent impotence and enhance physical and sexual performance. In Eastern European folk medicine Tribulus has been used to enhance both strength and sexual potency. In Turkey Tribulus has been as a common folk medicine against abdominal spasms and pain, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. It has been used in Greece since the first Olympic games where it was part of the training regimen that produced the classic physique for which Greek men are renown"

[|ceman]

Sure, with a simple Google search here's what I found...

Link - healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21872


LOL....did you even read the links you provided?


Studies performed in Bulgaria are the primary source of most current health claims regarding tribulus. According to this research, tribulus increases levels of various hormones in the steroid family, including testosterone, DHEA, and estrogen, and for this reason improves sports performance, fertility in men and women, sexual function (again in men and women), and symptoms of menopause (such as hot flashes).7-11 Unfortunately, the design of these studies appears to fall far short of modern scientific standards, and there has not been any trustworthy scientific confirmation of these supposed benefits. One well-designed study failed to find that tribulus affects male sex hormone levels in young men.17

Other studies that are far too preliminary to prove anything at all are quoted as proving that tribulus is helpful for the treatment of angina, high cholesterol, diabetes, and muscle spasms, and for the prevention of kidney stones.1,13-16

A properly designed, though small, human study compared the effects of tribulus (3.21 mg per kilogram of body weight?for example, 292 mg daily for a 200-lb man) against placebo on body composition and endurance among 15 men engaged in resistance training.3 At the end of the 8-week study, the only significant difference between the treatment and placebo groups was that the placebo group showed greater gains in endurance!

Another double-blind, placebo-controlled study enrolled 22 athletes and followed them for five weeks.18 The dose used in this trial was fixed at 450 mg daily for all participants. No benefits were seen.

In one study placebo actually outperformed tribulus!!! In other words, it's worthless.





Here's some clinical research you might find enlightening: http://www.gasparinutrition.com/Portals/0/NovedexXTClinicalTrial.PDF

[WhiteRob1984]

LOL....did you even read the links you provided?
No, I just posted the first couple links I found, lol.

Thanks for posting that link though. I was looking for other alternatives/recommendations. I've been reading up on that Novedex XT. It looks like good stuff, and I think I'm gonna' give it a try after I finish up my T-Bomb II/placebo, lol.

[delllanor]

I just purchased Pronabolin testosterone and GH booster. Has anyone taken this and what effects have they experienced.

[Guardian]

First of all, without research grants from supplement companies, universities would not be spending the tens of thousands needed to properly design and administer a study. The grant money has to come from somewhere. To think otherwise is just being naive.

And while some research can be bogus, the peer review process ensures that other scientists can review the design, methods, results and conclusions. This helps to ensure that no funny business is going on.

Keep in mind that a proper clinical to help the consumer should be on the finished product, not on certain key ingredients that may not even exist in the correct doses or extracts in the finished product.

And finally, repeating the study different times is a good way to ensure that the product does do what it says. Gaspari Nutrition's Novedex XT has been clinically tested, peer reviewed and not just one clinical done, but 3 separate Research trials.

I'm only aware of one other testosterone booster that even had one clinical done, and none that have had three. And some good bros on the boards telling you some other product is 'awesome' shouldn't count for a hill of beans without some proof to back it up in the form of clinical research.

The concern I have with ai test boosters is lowering estrogen which can have potential adverse effects such as lowering libido, stiffer joints, and reduced hgh output.

[|ceman]

The concern I have with ai test boosters is lowering estrogen which can have potential adverse effects such as lowering libido, stiffer joints, and reduced hgh output.

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any other non-hormonal method that has been clinically proven to raise test levels. People claim anecdotally that some herbals do, but everytime they are put to the test clinically, they fail to deliver.

Like anything else in life, it is a balance and moderation is needed.

[Guardian]

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any other non-hormonal method that has been clinically proven to raise test levels. People claim anecdotally that some herbals do, but everytime they are put to the test clinically, they fail to deliver.

Like anything else in life, it is a balance and moderation is needed.

There is some evidence to suggest Icarin does.

http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/8/601.htm

"In the present study, we found that chronic treatment of chemically-induced hypoandrogenic male rats with icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating level of testosterone. We also found that icariin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. It seems that icariin possesses testosterone-like activities. However, in the present study, there was no significant difference in serum levels of LH and FSH between ICA group and the others. It seems that icariin mainly affects the testis, but further study is required. "


Longjack also seems to have alot of promise though to many supps use to low a dose of it.

[Halosoccer24]

There is some evidence to suggest Icarin does.

http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/8/601.htm

"In the present study, we found that chronic treatment of chemically-induced hypoandrogenic male rats with icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating level of testosterone. We also found that icariin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. It seems that icariin possesses testosterone-like activities. However, in the present study, there was no significant difference in serum levels of LH and FSH between ICA group and the others. It seems that icariin mainly affects the testis, but further study is required. "


Longjack also seems to have alot of promise though to many supps use to low a dose of it.

I agree with you and like both Icariin and Longjack and I think its bascially just depends on the dose of each.

[mbeller83]

Just recently got "Methyl Test" by Nxlabs.. It's absolutely worthless.. Feel nothing on it, does nothing.

[hitman6952]

im just now startin my liftin again currently a marine so im tryin to get big before i deploy in feb wat would the best stack be for me i currently weigh 175 and would like to be 200 or so i lift everyday wit some cardio please help new to the lifting game

[javking220]

Novedex XT without a doubt

[llshiftyll]

Only taken 2 testosterone boosters and it was simultaneously. Anabolic Pump and Prime by USPLabs. Didn't notice a single thing with the stack aside from having road rage driving home every damn day with all the retards on the road.


same here bro, however animal test gave me a little more aggression for me lift but nothing over the top

[llshiftyll]

im just now startin my liftin again currently a marine so im tryin to get big before i deploy in feb wat would the best stack be for me i currently weigh 175 and would like to be 200 or so i lift everyday wit some cardio please help new to the lifting game


if your new to the lifting game id stick with the basics first and get some good NO and creatine (pill or powder doesn't matter) and take about 1.5 grams of protein per pound along with a good diet plan and you should reach your goal before your deployed. its tough to put on weight when your doing cardio too but given the how long you have before your deployed you should be able to do it. id recommend carb loading on your cardio days to combat the effects it could have on ur muscles.

[llshiftyll]

rpn havoc. It's basically a methylated steroid anymore need to be said? Oh btw I had total lack of side effects and felt great without pct. Gained 30 pounds of solid muscle in a month.

thats pretty impressive bro. what did u use and at what dose?

[MBSowards]

rpn havoc. It's basically a methylated steroid anymore need to be said? Oh btw I had total lack of side effects and felt great without pct. Gained 30 pounds of solid muscle in a month.

This is truly the dumbest post I've ever read. I would still suggest you be banned even if you weren't cookie stuffing on top of your ****ty post.

[Mace27]

A few months ago, I had some success with Novedex XT. Recently, I've considered trying Hyperdrol X2 (Anabolic Xtreme), Super Test (The Beast), or possibly T-911 (LG). Anyone with experience with the latter 3 I've mentioned?

[Inama]

Novedex

[spartanville]

i would say a few of the best are T-Bol, Activate Xtreme and Mass FX. I am also going to say I am very excited about Mass FX v3.

[forerx]

I agree with you very much...

[str0kerace]

lol. neither are test boosters

strong placebo

So what are some real testosterone boosters, are there any that are not placebo?

[aliquis]

So what are some real testosterone boosters, are there any that are not placebo?Jungle Warfare is a steroid and things like ATD/Novedex XT, 6-oxo and other aromatase inhibitators should increase your testosterone levels. So I guess those are. Personally I haven't used either.

Feel kinda weird to see images on guys who haven't had much of a great success judging from the photos who have still managed to go thru a long list.... Impressive! Must be totally worth it ..

If I didn't worked out at a gym which actually tested people I would be somewhat interested in trying something but I'm not sure it would be worth the health risks, and what good is a nice body anyway when you are dead?

I'd rather get decent results natural and have something to be proud off, rather that than having taking all **** there is and still look like crap. Lots of powerlifters prove that hard work for years with big weights and lots of food give progress. People could try that first.


"Uhh, I've trained for 2 years, am 18 year old and seem to have got stuck! I need some more testosterone!"

[aliquis]

Diesel Test Pro-cycle had two pro-hormones in it so I guess that may work to. I'm not sure it's some pro-hormones which are worth taking though ...

[str0kerace]

Jungle Warfare is a steroid and things like ATD/Novedex XT, 6-oxo and other aromatase inhibitators should increase your testosterone levels. So I guess those are. Personally I haven't used either.

Feel kinda weird to see images on guys who haven't had much of a great success judging from the photos who have still managed to go thru a long list.... Impressive! Must be totally worth it ..

If I didn't worked out at a gym which actually tested people I would be somewhat interested in trying something but I'm not sure it would be worth the health risks, and what good is a nice body anyway when you are dead?

I'd rather get decent results natural and have something to be proud off, rather that than having taking all **** there is and still look like crap. Lots of powerlifters prove that hard work for years with big weights and lots of food give progress. People could try that first.


"Uhh, I've trained for 2 years, am 18 year old and seem to have got stuck! I need some more testosterone!"

I've also wondered how many other supps I've gotten throughout the years like even protein or bcaa's that were nothing at all...

[|ceman]

I've also wondered how many other supps I've gotten throughout the years like even protein or bcaa's that were nothing at all...

Getting enough protein is a basic. Whole foods are always best, but a powdered protein is better than no protein at all. And BCAAs have definite benefits on muscle protein synthesis. It has been proven. I wouldn't consider them bunk at all. There are some supplements out there that are pretty sketchy, but protein and amino acids aren't in that category.

[Adjusting]

Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Test can be counted amongst the best.

[_Smitty_]

Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Test can be counted amongst the best.

speaking as a consumer and not as a representative, i'm confident that the sublingual sustain alpha (once released) won't be counted amongst, so much as it'll be considered the best...

yes... i said it. :D

i honestly can't recall a time when i ever looked forward to the release of a supplement with such enthusiasm and anticipation.

[papi93]

speaking as a consumer and not as a representative, i'm confident that the sublingual sustain alpha (once released) won't be counted amongst, so much as it'll be considered the best...

yes... i said it. :D

i honestly can't recall a time when i ever looked forward to the release of a supplement with such enthusiasm and anticipation.

When is this scheduled for release?

[_Smitty_]

When is this scheduled for release?

no definitive ETA just yet, but the big dogs mentioned that it won't be too long.

[yianni01]

I'm turning 19 this year and i believe this is the best time to start on a testosterone booster. anyone know of or had good results with armiatest? I plan on stacking Armiatest, Hexaghen and eNoxide..i'd like to hear from you guys first though.

[|ceman]

I'm turning 19 this year and i believe this is the best time to start on a testosterone booster. anyone know of or had good results with armiatest? I plan on stacking Armiatest, Hexaghen and eNoxide..i'd like to hear from you guys first though.

You really don't need any test boosters until your mid 20s at the earliest. Your test levels are at the peak of your entire life right now. Focus instead on proper diet and basic supplementation. I realize it isn't as "sexy", but that's where the success lies - the basics and consistency.

[_Smitty_]

I'm turning 19 this year and i believe this is the best time to start on a testosterone booster. anyone know of or had good results with armiatest? I plan on stacking Armiatest, Hexaghen and eNoxide..i'd like to hear from you guys first though.

i agree completely with iceman's post.

i am curious as to why you "believe this is the best time", though, if you feel like disclosing...

[MRB123]

When is this scheduled for release?

I have everything here to get it on the site but right now we are working on a few things that need to be done first. I hope to have this ready for the 1st but no set ETA

Jeff

[PowerGTD]

T-911 by LG Sciences has given me huge results in the gym, the bedroom, and in my overall "swagger." I plan on making it a staple of my training routine, along with protein, BCAAs, fish oil, and ZMA.

I've also heard good things about Activate Xtreme in the gym and online but haven't tried it. When it's time for me to take a break from T-911 I will probably give it a shot.

[_Smitty_]

I hope to have this ready for the 1st but no set ETA

Jeff

whether it's up by the 1st or not, knowing its release is coming quite soon just made my day. :D

[Peter LeDrew]

whether it's up by the 1st or not, knowing its release is coming quite soon just made my day. :D

x2!


I know we are all used to hearing the same few ingredients discussed with regards to natural testosterone enhancement, but there is one product I particularly respect and have enjoyed that is not usually brought into these discussions... it is not Divanil, Forskolin ext., nor Fenotest like as in our Phyto-Testosterone product... this works on improving the test to cortisol ratio which is crucial for intense training athletes... best of all, this has as much or more studies backing it compared to the others.

EndoAmp Max with potent Phosphatidylserine dosing of 800mg in a 1600mg Phospholipid Complex blend known as SerinAid.

Our company thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=116134363&highlight=EndoAmp

How does it support testosterone production?

The active ingredient phosphatidylserine (PS) prevents the exercise induced cortisol spike, and is a vital nutrient that supports testicular function and testosterone production. (11,37) Each serving of EndoAmp Max includes a clinically proven dose of 800mg of PS.

A recent study examined the effects of 10 days of 600mg/day PS supplementation on testosterone and cortisol during and after exercise. (37) The researchers found that PS supplementation increased testosterone 78% over the placebo group, while completely blunting the cortisol response to exercise. When analyzed for the testosterone to cortisol (T:C) ratio and compared to placebo, the PS group had a 3,354% higher T:C!


In another human study, hormone levels where examined during two weeks of intense weight training. The group receiving the 800mg of PS had higher testosterone levels and lower cortisol levels, compared to the group receiving the placebo. (11) Another study showed that 800mg of PS reduced cortisol levels 30% (compared to the placebo group) after intense cycling exercise. (21)

It?s been hypothesized that PS supplementation minimizes cortisol secretion by providing the necessary phospholipids required for cellular membrane structure and regulatory functions, thus reducing the requirement for bodily breakdown and nutrient displacement. (17,25,36,40)

Research also suggests that PS supports testosterone production by increasing the testes sensitivity to luteinizing hormone (LH) and increases testicular steroidogenesis - aka the creation of testosterone. (1-11, 19-26)

Take this quote from Cooke et al (1989) about the important role of PS in the testes:

"The requirement for specific phospholipid configurations for optimal steroidogenic activity suggests a regulatory role for these membrane components. It is possible that certain phospholipids [phosphatidylserine] may possess the most suitable configuration and charge distribution to optimize the binding of the steroid substrate to the active site of the enzyme. Alternatively, they may assist the catalysis by providing a more suitable microenvironment or electrochemical gradient for proton transfer between enzyme and steroid."?

In other words, EndoAmp Max creates a more conducive environment for testosterone synthesis in the testes by mitigating the damaging effects from cortisol and supplying the testes with the necessary phospholipids for testicular function.



I really think it is worth trying EndoAmp by itself or alongside another test booster such as BioForge, Phyto-Testosterone, Activate Xtreme or MassFx.


I haven't even gotten into the the numerous physical and mental benefits of A-GPC (Alpha-Glycerylphosphorylcholine) which is also included in EndoAmp Max. Both ingredients (PS and A-GPC) have been dosed according to the scientific literature, not included in a prop. blend with some fairy dust sprinkles.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prim/endoampmax.html

[MBSowards]

Inhibit E

[INGENIUM]

lulz at this entire section

[MBSowards]

lulz at this entire section

I did it right above didn't I?

I have studied long and hard to figure it out.

I am not sure which section to recommend SNS Beta Alanine in. Of course, if I was not a representative of SNS I would still recommend it. :)

[_Smitty_]

Of course, if I was not a representative of SNS I would still recommend it. :)

this is the catch-22... this section is almost pointless due to the 9/10 reps that recommend/mention their company's product because they have to; but you really can't sort out the reps that mention the product because they want to.

true, too, that those same 9/10 reps pro'lly haven't even used the product.

so members that visit here just become confused because it's a spot for companies to plant their flags.

[nni]

i feel bad for any rep that recommends something because he has to. must suck not having values.

[_Smitty_]

i feel bad for any rep that recommends something because he has to. must suck not having values.

agreed... you and i both know that they're rampant on here, though.

[_Smitty_]

this is the catch-22... this section is almost pointless due to the 9/10 reps that recommend/mention their company's product because they have to; but you really can't sort out the reps that mention the product because they want to.

true, too, that those same 9/10 reps pro'lly haven't even used the product.

so members that visit here just become confused because it's a spot for companies to plant their flags.

i wanted to follow this up because i just re-read it and am not happy with how it portrays my relationship with the company i'm affiliated with...

i meant to mention that i am one of the few here who recommends the company's products because i want to. like micah said above regarding his thoughts on SNS products, even if i weren't with primordial, i would still recommend their products over others... i wouldn't represent this company if i didn't wholly believe in what they had to offer the training/supplement community.

that was all... just didn't want to come across like i was shooting myself in the foot.

[jdmkidUK]

Activate Xtreme being one, Novedex being another, though in different ways.
How so?

[Guardian]

this is the catch-22... this section is almost pointless due to the 9/10 reps that recommend/mention their company's product because they have to; but you really can't sort out the reps that mention the product because they want to.

true, too, that those same 9/10 reps pro'lly haven't even used the product.

so members that visit here just become confused because it's a spot for companies to plant their flags.

In the public eye reps support all their products, however I would be surprised if every single supplement in a companys line the rep trully supports.

Even if I could choose any company I wanted to represent, I can't think of one who I would say "I would use every product of theres over any others."

I think an evolving trend is that each company has certain products that really "stand out" while others are probably more generic. For example Scivations Extend, tends to be a great product but If I represented them I would rather have another companys protein if I could.

[Alphalfa]

Mods, can we have a thread like this where reps aren't allowed to post?


I read through the whole thread with the intention of learning something new and have actually gained more confusion.

[jdmkidUK]

Agreed^

Wondering why no one has mentioned ZEUS OR MAGNUM THRUST? Used them both and i think THrust gave me better results.

[|ceman]

In the public eye reps support all their products, however I would be surprised if every single supplement in a companys line the rep trully supports.

Even if I could choose any company I wanted to represent, I can't think of one who I would say "I would use every product of theres over any others."

I think an evolving trend is that each company has certain products that really "stand out" while others are probably more generic. For example Scivations Extend, tends to be a great product but If I represented them I would rather have another companys protein if I could.
I might surprise you then. ;)

I do try a lot of different products to see what is out there in the market and how it responds to me, but my favorite protein really is Myofusion, my favorite preworkout really is Superpump 250 and my favorite creatine really is SizeOn. Right now my favorite fat burner is Cytolean V2 (I like it better than Mitotropin).

I do use other products like Xtend and other general health supplements, but I don't just preach the Gaspari brand because I "have to" - I do it because I personally believe that our products are the best in their respective categories.

Mods, can we have a thread like this where reps aren't allowed to post?


I read through the whole thread with the intention of learning something new and have actually gained more confusion.


Yeah, but you have to watch out for shills who create a new account just to say good or bad things about specific brands. They stand out pretty well as fake accounts though.

[jdmkidUK]

Agreed^

Wondering why no one has mentioned ZEUS OR MAGNUM THRUST? Used them both and i think THrust gave me better results.

???

[Alphalfa]

Yeah, but you have to watch out for shills who create a new account just to say good or bad things about specific brands. They stand out pretty well as fake accounts though.

That too....there should be a join date/rep power threshold as well.

I automatically ignore these posts anyway, but it would be nice to not have to sift through countless posts in order to find a meaningful one.

[Guardian]

I might surprise you then. ;)

I do try a lot of different products to see what is out there in the market and how it responds to me, but my favorite protein really is Myofusion, my favorite preworkout really is Superpump 250 and my favorite creatine really is SizeOn. Right now my favorite fat burner is Cytolean V2 (I like it better than Mitotropin).

I do use other products like Xtend and other general health supplements, but I don't just preach the Gaspari brand because I "have to" - I do it because I personally believe that our products are the best in their respective categories.



Yeah, but you have to watch out for shills who create a new account just to say good or bad things about specific brands. They stand out pretty well as fake accounts though.


There is a difference between effective and "the best" and a good rep should know this. Really, no suppelement out there is "the best," I stand for the products I rep to be effective, but I am not ignorant enough to believe they are the best nor should any company.

Even the most advanced highly formulated supplement has counterparts that some users could argue as better.

[MBSowards]

There is a difference between effective and "the best" and a good rep should know this. Really, no suppelement out there is "the best," I stand for the products I rep to be effective, but I am not ignorant enough to believe they are the best nor should any company.

Even the most advanced highly formulated supplement has counterparts that some users could argue as better.

Best is completely a matter of opinion.

[pmpnballer0311]

Best is completely a matter of opinion.

I heard the liquid testosterone that you use with seringes are the best

I also heard these are illegal though? any opinions?

[Mr.Pooperton]

Bioforge.

[RebuildMe]

Mods, can we have a thread like this where reps aren't allowed to post?


I read through the whole thread with the intention of learning something new and have actually gained more confusion.

Great idea.

[RebuildMe]

speaking as a consumer and not as a representative, i'm confident that the sublingual sustain alpha (once released) won't be counted amongst, so much as it'll be considered the best...

yes... i said it. :D

i honestly can't recall a time when i ever looked forward to the release of a supplement with such enthusiasm and anticipation.

Different formulation or sublingual resv/benzoflavone combo like the transdermal?

[take3]

would be nice if someone actually posted a real study for a change

i have nothing against gaspari, i love their myofusion product...but the NOV-XT study was such BS if you actually read the methodology and know anything about statistics.

[Adjusting]

Different formulation or sublingual resv/benzoflavone combo like the transdermal?

Last I heard it was going to be sublingual benz and resv.

[kknecht1]

Last I heard it was going to be sublingual benz and resv.

Definitely looking forward to this!

[MBSowards]

would be nice if someone actually posted a real study for a change

i have nothing against gaspari, i love their myofusion product...but the NOV-XT study was such BS if you actually read the methodology and know anything about statistics.

No one else has done any type of study.

[|ceman]

would be nice if someone actually posted a real study for a change

i have nothing against gaspari, i love their myofusion product...but the NOV-XT study was such BS if you actually read the methodology and know anything about statistics.

Really? Care to point out the flaws in the studies (we published three studies)? Please specify which study you have an issue with and why.

[take3]

Really? Care to point out the flaws in the studies (we published three studies)? Please specify which study you have an issue with and why.

http://www.gasparinutrition.com/Portals/0/NovedexXTClinicalTrial.PDF

i read the one study i could find late last night and interpreted it as saying it was run on 5 people, correct me if i'm wrong

a study done on 5 people has no 'statistical power' as the N value in any of the equations is far too small.

a study done on 5 people means that the standard error will be very large and error becomes a major part of the 'results'

according to central limit theorem 5 is not nearly enough to assume normal distribution, when N is too low to assume central theorem the study is useless and academic journals will not publish any findings for the various reasons ive listed.

too small of a sample size will often lead to false positives in a 1 tailed 2 test, ANOVA tests were not necessary and i'm not sure why they were run...its not like hundreds of these tests were done and analysis of variation between them occured.

random sampling ? where is it
random assignment? where is it
control for 3rd variables? where?
operationalizations?


the combo of all of these results in the study having next to zero internal validity and a study without internal validity is not externally valid meaning the results cannot be assumed to occur outside of that exact study.

i feel like emailing this to my stats prof to give him a good laugh.

[Jeebus987]

http://www.gasparinutrition.com/Portals/0/NovedexXTClinicalTrial.PDF

i read the one study i could find late last night and interpreted it as saying it was run on 5 people, correct me if i'm wrong

a study done on 5 people has no 'statistical power' as the N value in any of the equations is far too small.

a study done on 5 people means that the standard error will be very large and error becomes a major part of the 'results'

according to central limit theorem 5 is not nearly enough to assume normal distribution, when N is too low to assume central theorem the study is useless and academic journals will not publish any findings for the various reasons ive listed.

too small of a sample size will often lead to false positives in a 1 tailed 2 test, ANOVA tests were not necessary and i'm not sure why they were run...its not like hundreds of these tests were done and analysis of variation between them occured.

random sampling ? where is it
random assignment? where is it
control for 3rd variables? where?
operationalizations?


the combo of all of these results in the study having next to zero internal validity and a study without internal validity is not externally valid meaning the results cannot be assumed to occur outside of that exact study.

i feel like emailing this to my stats prof to give him a good laugh.

GOD i hated my stats class so much...

[MinusP]

That too....there should be a join date/rep power threshold as well.
.

At the same time there are people (like me) who are new to posting but have a good amount of real world experience that they'd like to share, just because I'm new in here for example does not mean i'm new to bodybuilding. I've seen guys here with 1000's of posts and look at their pictures and they weigh 5 pounds, makes me wonder what do you do, bodybuild or type?

(not saying anyone should pay attention to me as when it comes to supplements I have been out of the game since 05 so my opinions as of now are Null and void until I can catch to 2009 supps, just making a point)

[|ceman]

http://www.gasparinutrition.com/Portals/0/NovedexXTClinicalTrial.PDF

i read the one study i could find late last night and interpreted it as saying it was run on 5 people, correct me if i'm wrong

a study done on 5 people has no 'statistical power' as the N value in any of the equations is far too small.

a study done on 5 people means that the standard error will be very large and error becomes a major part of the 'results'

according to central limit theorem 5 is not nearly enough to assume normal distribution, when N is too low to assume central theorem the study is useless and academic journals will not publish any findings for the various reasons ive listed.

too small of a sample size will often lead to false positives in a 1 tailed 2 test, ANOVA tests were not necessary and i'm not sure why they were run...its not like hundreds of these tests were done and analysis of variation between them occured.

random sampling ? where is it
random assignment? where is it
control for 3rd variables? where?
operationalizations?


the combo of all of these results in the study having next to zero internal validity and a study without internal validity is not externally valid meaning the results cannot be assumed to occur outside of that exact study.

i feel like emailing this to my stats prof to give him a good laugh.

This was a small pilot study and was "unpublished". It does show a marked trend toward the results claimed in the literature though.

Here is a better study done by Baylor University and peer reviewed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17460335

Have fun. :)

[wannaBgrande]

I came on trying to find opinions on a good test booster but it seems like most are bs.. So I just wanna thank all the people that posted on here, you guys all made me realize I should just stick with my basic supps and buy some real gear , that's all folks !

[Semccar]

Legal Gear - Methyl 1-Alpha (R.I.P.)

[Adjusting]

I came on trying to find opinions on a good test booster but it seems like most are bs.. So I just wanna thank all the people that posted on here, you guys all made me realize I should just stick with my basic supps and buy some real gear , that's all folks !

LOL - and we wish you good luck with that ;)

[swansonblake]

arimatest by muscle meds or if you wanna go the natural way go get some adreanal gland creme

[LakeAthletics]

Okay so im an athlete s trying to get bigger faster stronger. but at the same time gain lean muscles. what do u think is the best route for me so i dnt take steroids???
i been thinking
about stacking tbol but i dnt knw wat to stack wit it
or ASTEROID STACK (POWERFULL, PRIME, & ANABOLIC PUMP)
or wat do u guys think is best?

[Alphalfa]

Okay so im an athlete s trying to get bigger faster stronger. but at the same time gain lean muscles. what do u think is the best route for me so i dnt take steroids???
i been thinking
about stacking tbol but i dnt knw wat to stack wit it
or ASTEROID STACK (POWERFULL, PRIME, & ANABOLIC PUMP)
or wat do u guys think is best?

...strong first post

Have you reached your genetic limit yet? How long have you been working out?

[LakeAthletics]

Elaborat on genetic limit ? Dnt knw what that means,Sorry.
and i been working out for about 5 years or so now, and have taken creatine and some of thos types of things before.

[Alphalfa]

Elaborat on genetic limit ? Dnt knw what that means,Sorry.
and i been working out for about 5 years or so now, and have taken creatine and some of thos types of things before.

In other words, are you still growing (given that your diet/exercise routine is in check)?

Sometimes a simple change in exercise routine can trigger new growth. At 22, your testosterone level should be naturally high.

[pwicks83]

I would use decabolen it's great stuff

[LakeAthletics]

yea Im still growing. so wat do u suggest?

[JAWS22]

Mass FX - Anabolic Xtreme
Novadex XT - Gaspari Labs
Activate Xtreme - Designer Supplements or what ever the hell they changed their name to.
Test Drive - EST
Ejaculoid - Goliath Labs

Tried em all, all worked, and all worked well and will/would do again. Ranking them in order of effectiveness.

Best for aggression and iron demolishing mentality would Novadex, for best results physically I would go with Mass FX. Still on cycle with AX so we'll see in another month. Test Drive is gonna jack your libido way up *in a good way of course*, as will ejaculoid.

Only thing that you might not like about the Nova is that it is gives you back cramps and dry joints. Its nothing you cant get through if you got balls worth a ****.

[Ripnlean]

My top 2:

Testx6 from Double T > the testofen makes a difference.
Testify from BBS > its perfect for me as its got cissus (Joint/ligament) support as well as tribulus

[Alphalfa]

yea Im still growing. so wat do u suggest?

If your current routine is still working for you, stick to it until that's no longer the case, then switch it up. We all get impatient and want faster results, but from my experience, the slower the gains, the more likely you are to keep them.

[Adjusting]

Oral Sustain Alpha is now availble.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119810841

[_Smitty_]

Oral Sustain Alpha is now availble.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119810841

also giving a beta-flavored bottle away to log... easy as you please to apply.

check it: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119894241

[LakeAthletics]

Honestly i understand that and i do think im coming to a point where i will stop growing. But realisticly theres no waiting for me at this time im competeing and i need every little edge i could get.

[Hedser]

Honestly i understand that and i do think im coming to a point where i will stop growing. But realisticly theres no waiting for me at this time im competeing and i need every little edge i could get.

Dude what else do you use now? take your proteins, and vitamins, creatine is good too and eat a lot, if you dont grow anymore you just havent got it (genetically or whatever) i think...
peace out

[Yonkersguy]

I came on trying to find opinions on a good test booster but it seems like most are bs.. So I just wanna thank all the people that posted on here, you guys all made me realize I should just stick with my basic supps and buy some real gear , that's all folks !

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2009/05/06/20066952/profilepic/1yoIdLVVVYsUcZ9VZGsHgQYAmYEt1596.jpeg


i'm having a hard time getting beyond the hair style.

[scoops1515]

TestosteroGROW 2 HP thats my favorite

[DerBeginner]

TestosteroGROW 2 HP thats my favorite

did it actually work for you? it's doing nothing for me....

[Nick Helm]

Methyl-1-D. I've never had anything like it. My workouts ended because I had finished the exercises that I planned, rather than because I ran out of energy. Every set seemed to be as intense as the last one, and after an hour or so, I realized that I was finished. My weight didn't change much, but my body composition did. I was losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time, which is awesome! Of note: you better have a girlfriend, since your libido will be insane!

[finehaymakerday]

Animal Stak - Universal (I like it even better than the more expensive Animal Test)

[yzf600r]

is the sides for test boosters the same as ph's?

[|ceman]

is the sides for test boosters the same as ph's?

Not even close. Some test boosters are safer than others and some are downright harmless.

The opposite can apply to PH and DS - some are safer than others and some are downright dangerous.

[Brandon914]

i know this is purely about supplements but can you talk more about the differences between a natural test booster and a ph? Im 18 and of course havent hit the genetic limits but interested in natural test booster. trying to stay away from any ph products.

[|ceman]

i know this is purely about supplements but can you talk more about the differences between a natural test booster and a ph? Im 18 and of course havent hit the genetic limits but interested in natural test booster. trying to stay away from any ph products.

Testosterone boosters generally work by stimulating different pathways in your body to increase testosterone production or increase the amount of testosterone available for use by your body (free testosterone).

Prohormones are different in that they introduce chemicals into your body that convert to active steroids and then directly stimulate androgen receptors, replacing testosterone to a degree. Actually the net result is typically that your body's own production of hormones decreases, not increases.

[PKJCorp]

Testosterone boosters generally work by stimulating different pathways in your body to increase testosterone production or increase the amount of testosterone available for use by your body (free testosterone).

Prohormones are different in that they introduce chemicals into your body that convert to active steroids and then directly stimulate androgen receptors, replacing testosterone to a degree. Actually the net result is typically that your body's own production of hormones decreases, not increases.

it's like steroids, but prohormones converts inside muscles, not in all body

[Brandon914]

So it is safe for me, 18years old to take a product like novadex? or a natural test booster?

[footballjunkie]

i just ordered the trifecta stack by lg sciences any one else have good results or want to chime in. it has these in it

1 METHYL 1-D XL

1 METHYL MASTERDROL

1 FORMADROL XTREME

1-gh-1

[gymaddict05]

has anyone used the animal "test stak"? if so did you like it? i have used other prohormone and test boosting supplments and am consdering trying the "test stak" and "get jacked stak" but wanted some input first.

[asianstyles]

Bioforge is solid. I really like the inclusion of Forskolin. It really helped me lean out.

Starting next week, I'm going to run a 6 week cycle of Bioforge + Activate Xtreme.

[stix4545]

1) LG T-911
2) Gaspari Novadex

These are the only two I have tried. I like the rush more of T-911, but the Novadex is a more well known product. Any thoughts?

[THEHUGE]

Bioforge is solid. I really like the inclusion of Forskolin. It really helped me lean out.

Starting next week, I'm going to run a 6 week cycle of Bioforge + Activate Xtreme.

Glad to know you liked our BioForge :)
BioForge + actx sounds sweet, nice stack.

[GMG760]

1) LG T-911
2) Gaspari Novadex

These are the only two I have tried. I like the rush more of T-911, but the Novadex is a more well known product. Any thoughts?

T-911 is the best natural test booster I have used hands down. For some reason I feel MUCH more aggressive on it than any others that I have tried, (Stoked, tribex, novedex xt, blue up, t-bol, vitrix). I tested the product when it had Androsterone in it about a year ago and really fell in love with it. Now I have just opened my bottle of the new formula (it has a new AI in it) and I felt even more aggression today in the gym than what I remembered.

[Andrew732]

For me in terms of Herbal, HCGenerate by needtobuildmuscle has worked wonders
Novedex xt in terms of chemicals compound based

[crystals_man]

sorry for the possible ignorant question guys. what is the purpose in running a stack with 2 test boosters. i see that people are doing bioforge and t-bol. or bioforge and activate xtreme. just curious. im fixing to start a cycle of bioforge and was just wondering why stacking it with another test booster is a good thing.

[Andrew732]

sorry for the possible ignorant question guys. what is the purpose in running a stack with 2 test boosters. i see that people are doing bioforge and t-bol. or bioforge and activate xtreme. just curious. im fixing to start a cycle of bioforge and was just wondering why stacking it with another test booster is a good thing.

Well an example would be Powerfull plus tesopro, powerfull will block prolactin and cause a rise in total testosterone, while testofen in testopro along divnail wll free up the bound testosterone and reducing SHBG.

[crystals_man]

Well an example would be Powerfull plus tesopro, powerfull will block prolactin and cause a rise in total testosterone, while testofen in testopro along divnail wll free up the bound testosterone and reducing SHBG.

ok well that tells me what i need to know then. thanks.

[ttprospect24]

has anyone ever tried Zeus? made in canada I'm pretty sure...? Had a teammate/buddy who was on it, had massive gains in strength and size. his aggressiveness skyrocketed too.

[RMA08]

Who makes Zeus?

[eldawg]

Who makes Zeus?

Fusion Bodybuilding.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/fus/zeus.html

[hsquier]

By far Max Muscle's Anabol EXT

[MannyN.]

M-drol.
Best one that works for me by far.

[Jacob_R]

M-drol.
Best one that works for me by far.

Ya know that's an anabolic steroid, right?

[termi]

Anyone have any decent feedback or results using Novadex XT ?

most appreciated..

[bankhead]

M-drol.
Best one that works for me by far.

This is a nasty nasty steroid one of the harshest ever. Really messes your system up. Bad enough that pros wont even mess with it.
Whey Protein + steel cut oats + whole or 2% milk will give you all the gains any weight gainer could.

Mdrol? still shaking my head here

[Andrew732]

Anyone have any decent feedback or results using Novadex XT ?

most appreciated..

My fav combo is 1-2 cap of NXT with HCGenerate and some extra divanil.

[Andrew732]

M-drol.
Best one that works for me by far.

UMMM, not a test booster, it decreases test levels btw, just figure I would let you know, ahem beta male LOL.

[CodyK7]

M-drol.
Best one that works for me by far.

says the 18 year old that's 5'9 180

[termi]

thanks Andrew732

that sounds evil...

[kknecht1]

Omega T-force is awesome product!

[bjjbadboy]

hey Im tried many supps but never a test-booster or test supp. I cut out my creatine and NO because need to cut weight for fighting and cant have the extra water in it...so I have been thinking about using one of these my question is:
I know with steriods that is straight hormones, when you take your body stops naturally producing test, so after the cycle you need to take something else to get your natural test going again.. Is this true with these test boosters? or do they just block progestrine etc and help utalize the free radicules. I would think so because you are not actually adding testostrone , but make the test in your body more effiecent. hope that made sense thanks

[Gackle]

Hands down P6 is the most INSANE test booster i've ever tried! Ive been on cryotest, axis-ht, prime, inhibit-E, novadex, and animal test pack. P6 has the most comprehensive and potent ingredients! NO CONTEST!!

[hulkhoganjr.]

what the hell does m-drol do? Novadex XT - Gaspari Labs all day!

[Gackle]

M-Drol is a Pro-Hormone. Not a natural test booster.

[adamsmith83]

i never heard this supplement before can anyone tell me what it is

[Lift Till I Die]

PRIME''s a test booster?

[sharkbite]

Anabolic Addictions product: Mass Addiction. absolutely awesome ! I've posted a review for this product, highly recommended.

[hulkhoganjr.]

Novadex xt!

[Sldge]

sorry for the possible ignorant question guys. what is the purpose in running a stack with 2 test boosters. i see that people are doing bioforge and t-bol. or bioforge and activate xtreme. just curious. im fixing to start a cycle of bioforge and was just wondering why stacking it with another test booster is a good thing.

With 2 products there is nothing stronger then Activate Xtreme with Novedex XT. There are dozens of users blood work that has been posted over the years for that combo (more then any other single product) and its without a doubt the best. Nothing will increase total test, free test, dht and lower estrogen better then that. There is no other combo of products available that has had blood work posted for it to be better then those 2 products.

[thekida2279]

BSN is the only label i put any merit in at all so when I saw their Test product i coughed up the clams for a bottle. I am only a week into the 60 day cycle but I can already tell its doing it's job. I'm not sure if this is typical for everyone but it is for me, that when I'm on a good Test product I feel like a different person. More aggressive, more confident, sexually super powered and unfortunately less patient but over all very good and i can feel that now. I am getting mild body acne which is welcome as it is typical with increased testosterone levels. Most notable is the fact that the first week of this product reminds me of the 3rd week of Animal TEST which is far more expensive per serving. Animal TEST is a good product IF you get a great deal on a can. Testatropinol is o.k. but tedious to use (3 pills disolve under tongue, don't eat for 30 minutes etc. etc.). Animal STAK was surprisingly more potent than Animal TEST but my moneys on Axis-HT for both effect and value.

[xMikeRuizx]

Epidrol is my favorite.

I heard there doing away with nova xt

[JACKED17]

trying to decide between american cell labs mma-3 and "drostanol" any suggestions???

[Bballer1459]

ok, i just ordered CEL m1,4add and am thinking about maybe running PowerLab's Halotest-25 with that..let me freely know what you think and which PCT should i use? Maybe Iforce's reversitrol?? Arimevol?? thanks let me know what you think

[Andrew732]

To the last 3 posters, these are PROHORMONES, not test boosters, they actually lower testosterone. To the last poster, need a SERM for pct bro.

[JACKED17]

i know its not a natural test booster is that the only difference????

[Eightpak]

Allmax TestoFx and Anabolic Innovations TestoPro

[Bballer1459]

To the last 3 posters, these are PROHORMONES, not test boosters, they actually lower testosterone. To the last poster, need a SERM for pct bro.


what would you pefer for a SERM? let me know what you think. i am trying to do a bulking cycle and just want the best i can get.

[Kagigi]

Any suggestions for a 46 year old? Just started lifting again and lost 20lbs and looking to loose 15 more. Would like to try Active Xtreme/Novedex XT for more lean gain. What would be the best AI/test booster?

[loik]

can somebody please give me some info on the difference between steroids/testosterone boosters/ and natural testosterone boosters? will rep for info! thanks

[|ceman]

can somebody please give me some info on the difference between steroids/testosterone boosters/ and natural testosterone boosters? will rep for info! thanks

Steroids are synthetic hormones that typically cause your body to slow down or even stop making it's own hormones.

Testosterone boosters can fall into a number of different categories - most are herbal based but their mode of operation can range from stimulating hormone production in the body, reducing the conversion of testosterone to other hormones, binding to cell bodies that "bind" testosterone (making it less useful to the body when 'bound') and other methods.

Generally, testosterone boosters do not carry the risk of hormonal shutdown like steroids do, although it still is important to ask questions and understand how a certain product works, the safe duration of it's use and any preventative steps that should be taken while on the product or following it's use.

[anabolict]

best natty test booster hands down

http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/sustain-alpha-liqua-vade.html


Ph are steroids and lower your natural test. If you dont know this then you need to do much.. much more research

[BuiltRight]

Anyone try Battle Fuel if so what do you think of it.

[Andrew732]

what would you pefer for a SERM? let me know what you think. i am trying to do a bulking cycle and just want the best i can get.

Clomid bro, make sure to take exemestane along high doeses of Divanil, since Clomid raises SHBG.

[Inspired916]

Cellucor P6 all the way!!!

[UK_Strength]

It's all about Phyto-Testosterone for me ;) Stacked with Sustain Alpha...Holy LIBIDO! :D

[strategicmove]

It's all about Phyto-Testosterone for me ;) Stacked with Sustain Alpha...Holy LIBIDO! :D

Howdy, R? :)

[matt.hutsell]

best natty test booster hands down

UK_Strength;444161701]It's all about Phyto-Testosterone for me ;) Stacked with Sustain Alpha...Holy LIBIDO! :D

And you use this for the gym as well?

[TheHealthyDJ]

activate xtreme

[papi93]

So far I have used T-Bol, Stoked, Activate Xtreme, and Bio Forge. Activate Xtreme was the best of the four.

[MikeCellucor]

Cellucor P6 all the way!!!

Too kind :D

I do suggest everyone understanding that getting Test levels high is only one part of the puzzle.

You need high test, then you need free/active test, and then you need to reduce conversion to estrogen ( which also increases Test levels a bit), conversion to DHT, and then inhibit the breakdown of Test via CYP enzymes in the liver, etc....

Then of course supporting side systems like S.T.A.R. via cAMP, and all that....

I'm writing an article to some it all up. I love reading, and writing about this stuff.

When you don't do the majority of the things I listed ( like only 1 or 2 of them) you can get sides, ineffective cycles, and or even the infamous puffy nips ( no its not gyno!!) ....who wants them?? lol

Also, P6 is 100% guaranteed in bringing you high quality results.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cellucor/p6extreme.html

[apilot]

I've used Active Xtreme/Novedex XT with great results. I'd like to give another brand a try. What out there is similar to this stack, what would be the ideal dosages for a 260lb man, and what would you follow it up with (PCT) if need be. Feel free to shoot me a PM. Thanks!

[DARKSKY]

there are a lot of test boosters i can't take since they will cause a positive test result in any pl fed that does testing in accordance with wada guidelines. That said, tribustol by nes is amazing! I have only been on it a week, and the recovery time after workouts is unbelievable. I know a lot of people don't think any tribulus products work, but this one seems to be exactly as described for me so far. I know others that have had amazing results with this as well. It tests clean for any sport, and is produced in an fda approved lab. I highly recommend this just from my short term experience with it.

so where is the best place to buy these testosterone products, which is the most reputable dealer..,thankyou...also has anyone got any ideas about the health product company ''usn'' as ive read good stuff about there products ?

[Sldge]

I've used Active Xtreme/Novedex XT with great results. I'd like to give another brand a try. What out there is similar to this stack, what would be the ideal dosages for a 260lb man, and what would you follow it up with (PCT) if need be. Feel free to shoot me a PM. Thanks!

Based on blood work that is the best combo you can get.

[Sldge]

Based on blood work that is the best combo you can get.Here is some blood work with NXT and other AIs. The results are absolutely fantastic.


Here is some blood work done using ACTX with AIs including Novedex XT. The results are excellent.


Products used:
Novedex XT (2 pills per night)
ActX (4 pills on non workout days or running days and 6 on workout days)

Pre Blood Results:
Total Testosterone = 668.27 ng/dl (150 -850)
Estradiol = 55.8 pg/ml
SHBG = 23.1 nmol/l (13 - 71)

Free Androgen Index = 99.81

Post Blood Results :

Total Testosterone = 1849.38 ng/dl (150 -850) (Flagged high)
Estradiol = 53.8 pg/ml
SHBG = 23.7 nmol/l

Free Androgen Index = 270.48
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_androgen_index)

Total test levels increased by about 276.7%
Estradiol levels actually decreased.


Big Pete Fox
Baseline
Total Test: 690ng/dl
Free Test: 520ng/dl

End of Trial
Total Test: 1123ng/dl
Free Test: 984ng/dl

Total Testosterone increased 62.7%.
Free Testosterone increased 89.2%



JMH80
Baseline
Estrogen: 32 pg/ml
Total Testosterone: 650 ng/dl
Free Testosterone: 15.9 pg/dl

End of Trial

Estrogen: 19 pg/ml
Total Testosterone: 905 ng/dl
Free Testosterone: 19.2 pg/gl



Total testosterone increased 39.2%.
Free Testosterone increased 28.5%.
Estrogen decreased 40.6%


Chasec
Baseline
Total Testosterone: 382 ng/dl
Free Testosterone: 75.8 ng/dl
Estradiol: 32 pg/ml

End of Trial
Total Testosterone: 821 ng/dl
Free Testosterone: 111.2 ng/dl
Estradiol: 19 pg/ml

Total testosterone increased 114.9%
Free Testosterone increased 46.7%
Estrogen decreased 40.6%

[furyhockey]

so where is the best place to buy these testosterone products, which is the most reputable dealer..,thankyou...also has anyone got any ideas about the health product company ''usn'' as ive read good stuff about there products ?

Here. bb.com

[coolspin27]

Not to troll or whatever.... besides the fact that I want to build muscle.... I seem to have a real low sex drive.... a bit worried I have naturally low test levels... and I am 27 so this is obviously not natural. Any thoughts... no have not seen a doctor about it yet.... but do plan on it. Would it be a good idea to take test boosters for this?

[spartanwarrior]

Here is some blood work with NXT and other AIs. The results are absolutely fantastic.
So that blood work was when he was taking Activate Xtreme and NXT? kinda hard for me to believe, but maybe he was on real juice.

[apilot]

Here is some blood work with NXT and other AIs. The results are absolutely fantastic.

Thanks! I just hope NXT stays on the market. What other AIs work well with Active Xtreme?

[Sldge]

So that blood work was when he was taking Activate Xtreme and NXT? kinda hard for me to believe, but maybe he was on real juice.[/QUOTE He posted a log of it here on BB. Those are the actual results.

[QUOTE=apilot;455918061]Thanks! I just hope NXT stays on the market. What other AIs work well with Active Xtreme?It works with all AI's very well, which is why I posted the blood work from users of 6bromo as well.

[apilot]

[QUOTE=spartanwarrior;455474951]So that blood work was when he was taking Activate Xtreme and NXT? kinda hard for me to believe, but maybe he was on real juice.[/QUOTE He posted a log of it here on BB. Those are the actual results.

It works with all AI's very well, which is why I posted the blood work from users of 6bromo as well.

Thanks!

[Sldge]

[QUOTE=Sldge;456914621]

Thanks!no problem.

[Willyoung]

Trib is probably safest for younger lifters

[Sldge]

Trib is probably safest for younger lifters

Trib doesnt raise testosterone in humans.

[SouRceB5]

Can activate xtreme be taken alone? how much less affective with the results be? what does AI stand for?

I ultimately want to cycle ACT X without having to take anything else... but if the results arent that great without stacking then im obviously in it to stack. so what would be a good stack besides nova?

[Sldge]

Can activate xtreme be taken alone? how much less affective with the results be? what does AI stand for?

I ultimately want to cycle ACT X without having to take anything else... but if the results arent that great without stacking then im obviously in it to stack. so what would be a good stack besides nova?
Yes you can use it alone and the results are very good just not as much when combined with an Ai (aromatase inhibitor, like Novedex XT). ACTX is one of if not the most recommended test boosters on BB.com over the last 5 years. If it didnt work well on its own it wouldnt have that type of a following.

Here is a log of a guy using it alone right now. He is setting new personal bests at almost every workout.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=454545351#post454545351

[ROBOCOQ]

just purchased a bunch of t911...it seems it's pretty hard to beat for the price?

[Scartaris]

just purchased a bunch of t911...it seems it's pretty hard to beat for the price?

I'm on Day 3 of Dominate V1 from BCS. It's my first test booster so I can't really compare it to previous experiences. However if you look at the profile you will see that it is top notch :).

[THEHUGE]

Stellar (and large) feedback for the BioForge:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117421931&highlight=bioforge+official


Check also the rating page of the store:
http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Biotivia/Bio_Forge

[Rodzilla01]

I'm on Day 3 of Dominate V1 from BCS. It's my first test booster so I can't really compare it to previous experiences. However if you look at the profile you will see that it is top notch :).

Agreed, and thanks!

[Carpathia]

Yes you can use it alone and the results are very good just not as much when combined with an Ai (aromatase inhibitor, like Novedex XT).

could you explain to me why it is better when used with an AI

[gottalift78]

I'm on week 2 of TestoPRO and love it. Strength is already way up there. I have been on a cut for the last month and have noticed a decrease in body fat while retaining mass.

[gottalift78]

mods, can we have a thread like this where reps aren't allowed to post?


I read through the whole thread with the intention of learning something new and have actually gained more confusion.

this!!!!!!!

[Sldge]

could you explain to me why it is better when used with an AI

They work synergistically together by raising total test and lower estrogen (from the AI) and by increasing the use of free test (ACTX) from the larger boost in total test. Plus you have Icariin which mimics testosterone and is a great sex aid (similar although much weaker then Viagra). The benefits taken together are definitely better then either one taken alone.

[Carpathia]

They work synergistically together by raising total test and lower estrogen (from the AI) and by increasing the use of free test (ACTX) from the larger boost in total test. Plus you have Icariin which mimics testosterone and is a great sex aid (similar although much weaker then Viagra). The benefits taken together are definitely better then either one taken alone.

Thanks for the response.
What is the recommended dosage of each of these if taken for 8 weeks, Novedex XT being the AI used along with ACTX

[Sldge]

Thanks for the response.
What is the recommended dosage of each of these if taken for 8 weeks, Novedex XT being the AI used along with ACTX
Under 190lbs I would use 4 ACTX per day and 1 NXT per day. Over 190 I would use 6 caps of ACTX (3 caps 2X a day) and 2 NXT (1 in the am, 1 in the pm) per day.

[93stangers]

I heard all over the counter test boosters are worthless. Why has bb stopped selling Novedex XT if its so good?

[Sldge]

I heard all over the counter test boosters are worthless. Why has bb stopped selling Novedex XT if its so good?

I have no idea. It may be a new policy as they dont sell any steroidal AIs (4OHA, 6OXO, 6bromo or ATD).

[SwolenONE]

i like the hghup, right up there with test drive and t-bol

[kramerch]

Sorry if this has been addressed before but I am considering this Activate Xtreme/Novedex combo. Do people see the common side effects as other testosterone products, ie. acne, mood swings, atrophy of testes?

[Sldge]

Sorry if this has been addressed before but I am considering this Activate Xtreme/Novedex combo. Do people see the common side effects as other testosterone products, ie. acne, mood swings, atrophy of testes?
Not atrophy of testicles. Its common to have acne in the first week or so until your body gets adjusted to the new, higher, test levels. Its common to feel aggressive in the gym and sleep better as well.Usually by week 2 you have adjusted and everything evens out.

[bloodsimple1234]

Agreed, and thanks!

and thank you as well.





it is superb for sure!

[the_philosopher12]

what are peoples thoughts on stacking LG's T-911 with there Formadrol Extreme XL?!?!!? it doesnt state how much *2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One* is in the T-911 compared to the FEXL, but it looks like a bigger dose than in the FEXL

should i look to stack FEXL with something else, b/c i feel like if theses two were suppose to be stacked LG would have marketed them that way

[NiR]

why has bb.com stoppped selling NXT?

is it not safe?

are test boosters like act x and nxt safe? are they going to stop my testerone being made by natural body like steroids does>? i dont want anything like steroids. are these nataural? and if so, where can i get nxt now since bb.com doesnt have them. any help is greatly appreciated.

[|ceman]

why has bb.com stoppped selling NXT?

is it not safe?

are test boosters like act x and nxt safe? are they going to stop my testerone being made by natural body like steroids does>? i dont want anything like steroids. are these nataural? and if so, where can i get nxt now since bb.com doesnt have them. any help is greatly appreciated.

Bodybuilding.com has voluntarily chosen to stop carrying Novedex XT. While they have not stated formally why, it is speculated that this is due to increased scrutiny from the FDA after they were raided in the Fall of 2009.

Novedex is safe and legal. It had 3 university studies done on it and showed it to be fully safe for use by healthy male adults. It does not stop your body's hormone production. It is found in natural compounds and meets the FDA requirements for a health related supplement.

Many online retailers still sell Novedex XT - a simple google search will help you.

[Sldge]

why has bb.com stoppped selling NXT?

is it not safe?

are test boosters like act x and nxt safe? are they going to stop my testerone being made by natural body like steroids does>? i dont want anything like steroids. are these nataural? and if so, where can i get nxt now since bb.com doesnt have them. any help is greatly appreciated.
Both NXT and ACTX are safe and are natural. No they wont stop your testosterone from being produced. It will naturally boost it and then when you stop it will return back to baseline levels.

[FinishThird]

gaspari nutrition.

[matpat3000]

Hey, so am I the only A-hole who when trying to use the search and hitting "1 year or sooner" the search results bring me to 2001?

I just want to know if these test booster will aid me in my 4 week Mdrol cycle? Should I take it in the last week along with my PCT and continue on? Or take it the entire time? Or just wait til the end? I know a lot about Mdrol. Trust me. I know a lot about PCT. I just dont know a lot about these test boosters.

[|ceman]

Hey, so am I the only A-hole who when trying to use the search and hitting "1 year or sooner" the search results bring me to 2001?

I just want to know if these test booster will aid me in my 4 week Mdrol cycle? Should I take it in the last week along with my PCT and continue on? Or take it the entire time? Or just wait til the end? I know a lot about Mdrol. Trust me. I know a lot about PCT. I just dont know a lot about these test boosters.

I hope your PCT consists of more than just an aromatase inhibitor. These test boosters are good products and effective, but when dealing with potential negative effects from an oral steroid cycle you need to address all the restoration aspects, not just boosting test.

[matpat3000]

I know but remember when I said I have my PCT all figured out? I know what I'm doing in that regards but I wont get into detail as to what I'm taking. I was just wondering if these test boosters would help post cycle. Can anybody give me an answer?

[Sldge]

I know but remember when I said I have my PCT all figured out? I know what I'm doing in that regards but I wont get into detail as to what I'm taking. I was just wondering if these test boosters would help post cycle. Can anybody give me an answer?

We have had blood work done from users in PCT with ACTX and/or with an AI/SERM and the results have been very good.

[coolspin27]

I am new to the test stuff and have read a some of the forum thread. I got my blood work done and will get results on monday.... 2 days time. So if I do have low test... which I think I do... I just take an test booster like activate xtreme and novadex? What is this PCT you are talking about.... sorry I am so new to this... I am sure my doctor will explain some of this?? But I want to go into his office a bit informed. If I were to take a test booster and an aromotose inhibitar I would be good? Or do I need something else as well?

[cuttin.bruh]

whats everyones look on blue up?

[Sldge]

I am new to the test stuff and have read a some of the forum thread. I got my blood work done and will get results on monday.... 2 days time. So if I do have low test... which I think I do... I just take an test booster like activate xtreme and novadex? What is this PCT you are talking about.... sorry I am so new to this... I am sure my doctor will explain some of this?? But I want to go into his office a bit informed. If I were to take a test booster and an aromotose inhibitar I would be good? Or do I need something else as well?

You wouldnt need to take a PCT if you used something like Activate Xtreme and Novedex Xt. You would need PCT if you were taking prohormones which you wouldnt want to use because it wont help with your low testosterone issue.

[coolspin27]

You wouldnt need to take a PCT if you used something like Activate Xtreme and Novedex Xt. You would need PCT if you were taking prohormones which you wouldnt want to use because it wont help with your low testosterone issue.

I got the tests back and I have low test.. he put me on delatestryl 200 mg... do I need a AI for this. I talked to him about getting a AI and he did not seem that concerned... but that does not mean I should not be.... its my body. I don't want gyno from high estrogen.

[Sldge]

I got the tests back and I have low test.. he put me on delatestryl 200 mg... do I need a AI for this. I talked to him about getting a AI and he did not seem that concerned... but that does not mean I should not be.... its my body. I don't want gyno from high estrogen.
Did he give you your estrogen levels? I would probably use an AI but Im sensitive to estrogen. I would go with a low dose though, no reason to go crazy.

[coolspin27]

Did he give you your estrogen levels? I would probably use an AI but Im sensitive to estrogen. I would go with a low dose though, no reason to go crazy.

I asked him if he checked them and he said no.... like I said he did not seemed concerned.... but maybe he is not that informed... not sure. I will have him check my estrogen levels in my next test.

[Footprints31]

What does everyone think about Bioforge? I've heard it's out of stock so when will more be available & should I wait for it or opt for something else in the meantime?. If I should go with something else, what does everyone suggest?. I'm looking to bulk & add 15 lbs of muscle (Dream Goal) and the only other Test Booster I've been told is good is Animal Stak. What do you all suggest?

[DragonsBite]

Hey guys im 17 and i haven't used a test booster yet. Im planning on it and iv'e been researching all the individual compounds and sorting through all the reviews by people.

I am still confused.so much crap

im planning on getting something with the following:
-divanil,tribulus,lonjack,testofen,yohimbe,forslean

also does reveratrol inhibit igf-1 in anyway, or increase it? (like t-resv in t-bol)
is controlled labs blue up worth the $?
i am also worried that actvate xtreme is full of fillers..

i want to support testosterone production and keep it at its best

[Krossceeper]

Hey guys im 17 and i haven't used a test booster yet. Im planning on it and iv'e been researching all the individual compounds and sorting through all the reviews by people.

I am still confused.so much crap

im planning on getting something with the following:
-divanil,tribulus,lonjack,testofen,yohimbe,

also does reveratrol inhibit igf-1 in anyway, or increase it? (like t-resv in t-bol)
is controlled labs blue up worth the $?
i am also worried that actvate xtreme is full of fillers..

Imo dont even bother at 17, just stick to the basics. A+ Diet, Whey, Creatine, Fish Oil, Multi V.