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DragonsBite
04-01-2010, 12:29 AM
Thanks for the reply

I will

but I still want to know what would be effective in the future.
and sare some supplements being full of fillers?

Sldge
04-01-2010, 09:45 AM
I asked him if he checked them and he said no.... like I said he did not seemed concerned.... but maybe he is not that informed... not sure. I will have him check my estrogen levels in my next test.

Definitely have him check. If you are someone who normally has a higher amount of estrogen then adding test to the equation will only increase that amount. The ratio will be better, meaning youll have a higher test to estrogen ratio but still, you dont want it getting too high.

coolspin27
04-01-2010, 04:03 PM
Definitely have him check. If you are someone who normally has a higher amount of estrogen then adding test to the equation will only increase that amount. The ratio will be better, meaning youll have a higher test to estrogen ratio but still, you dont want it getting too high.

Is there an ideal range for test/estro ratio? Do you know a round about figure?

Sldge
04-01-2010, 04:08 PM
Is there an ideal range for test/estro ratio? Do you know a round about figure?
I cant off the top of my head but ill do some digging. I would want to see total test in the 750+ range. You wouldnt be out of the normal range but you would be at least in the upper half of it. Ideally youd like estrogen in the lower half of normal range. Enough to keep sex drive normal and gh conversion to igf1 normal but no so much that you need to worry about gyno etc.

THEHUGE
04-01-2010, 04:16 PM
What does everyone think about Bioforge?

There's a rating page in the BB.com's cyberstore ;)

coolspin27
04-01-2010, 07:11 PM
I cant off the top of my head but ill do some digging. I would want to see total test in the 750+ range. You wouldnt be out of the normal range but you would be at least in the upper half of it. Ideally youd like estrogen in the lower half of normal range. Enough to keep sex drive normal and gh conversion to igf1 normal but no so much that you need to worry about gyno etc.

So your saying if your estrogen is too low you can get gyno... I thought it was the opposite and you get gyno from high estrogen levels.... maybe I am wrong or misunderstanding you?

PinchTheBear
04-02-2010, 09:09 PM
So your saying if your estrogen is too low you can get gyno... I thought it was the opposite and you get gyno from high estrogen levels.... maybe I am wrong or misunderstanding you?

Your body will compensate for excess testosterone by converting it to estrogen. This is how poorly-managed PH cycles often result in delayed gyno. If your estrogen is too low, common side effects would be dry joints and loss of libido.

Though, if you are naturally producing estrogen in excess, a test booster would stack well with an AI like an ATD, or, if you're really having trouble with too much aromatase, a steroidal AI like 6-oxo. These anti-estrogenic supplements are effective for a natural test-boosting stack, but not effective as PCT.

See thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6454801

coolspin27
04-03-2010, 12:40 AM
Your body will compensate for excess testosterone by converting it to estrogen. This is how poorly-managed PH cycles often result in delayed gyno. If your estrogen is too low, common side effects would be dry joints and loss of libido.

Though, if you are naturally producing estrogen in excess, a test booster would stack well with an AI like an ATD, or, if you're really having trouble with too much aromatase, a steroidal AI like 6-oxo. These anti-estrogenic supplements are effective for a natural test-boosting stack, but not effective as PCT.

See thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6454801

So if my estrogen levels get too high.... then I should get a AI? I will have to have my doctor check my estrogen levels on the next blood test... that is not scheduled for 3 months though :(

Carpathia
04-05-2010, 06:47 AM
Under 190lbs I would use 4 ACTX per day and 1 NXT per day. Over 190 I would use 6 caps of ACTX (3 caps 2X a day) and 2 NXT (1 in the am, 1 in the pm) per day.

With 4 a day dosage of the ACTX

When should I take them on workout days? I lift at 5:30pm.

When should I take them on non workout days?

snatonsb
04-05-2010, 09:56 PM
Hey guys I just ordered Activate Extreme and NXT to stack together with Green Mag/White Flood/Purple Wrath when should I take Activate and NXT? How about on off days? I weight 160lbs

Sldge
04-06-2010, 10:50 AM
With 4 a day dosage of the ACTX

When should I take them on workout days? I lift at 5:30pm.

When should I take them on non workout days?


Hey guys I just ordered Activate Extreme and NXT to stack together with Green Mag/White Flood/Purple Wrath when should I take Activate and NXT? How about on off days? I weight 160lbs

For both of you, youll want to take it everyday (doesnt matter if its a workout day or not). When you wake up take 2 caps ACTX and 1 cap NXT (with or without food, doesnt matter). Then about 8 hours later youll want to take 2 more caps of ACTX. Thats it. Nice and easy.

snatonsb
04-07-2010, 12:49 PM
For both of you, youll want to take it everyday (doesnt matter if its a workout day or not). When you wake up take 2 caps ACTX and 1 cap NXT (with or without food, doesnt matter). Then about 8 hours later youll want to take 2 more caps of ACTX. Thats it. Nice and easy.

Thanks man, I appreciate the advice! I'll give feedback once I hop on it.

Manager87
04-07-2010, 01:48 PM
Please...Could you tell me if Methyl 1-D XL in safe or not?! I'm worried about the sentence
"This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm." !

What do you think about it?!

Thanx!

darkshines
04-09-2010, 10:38 AM
I was obese for the past 10 years or so, and just shed 80 lbs in the past 8 months. Years of yo-yo dieting plus the past year of aggressive cutting has probably wreaked havoc on my metabolism and natural test production.

I'll be done cutting as of June 1st, and wouldn't mind jumping on something to help boost my test a bit or at least help it get to normal levels. I've thought about running a low-dose test cycle, or a few DS' or Ph's but I'd rather take something that doesn't require PCT, and I'm not at the stage where I need to start tinkering with crank or DS/Ph's yet.

Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it? I was under the impression Gaspari has provided some kind of factual evidence behind novedex, but lo and behold, the BB store doesn't sell it anymore.

I'm very well-versed in nutrition, so I also think that once I start lean-bulking I'll be able to get a decent amount of fats in order to support test production. I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

I've read about bioforge, activate xtreme, E-bol, etc, but I don't actually know what works and what doesnt. I DO know that a lot of "test boosters" out there are simply composed of some proprietary compound that has a few micrograms of an active ingredient that has minimal scientific backing and whole bunch of filler, so I just don't want to get ripped off and pop back a bunch of caps of placebo.

Cliffs
Was super fat for a long time.
No longer super fat, but natural test production is probably down from dieting so hard.
I know a lot of test boosters are sh*t.
Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it?
I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

Reps and thanks.

stiga13
04-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Other than the now banned pro hormones I would say Gaspari Haladrol MT or this new stuff I tried called Test Force by Chicago Nutrition

stiga13
04-09-2010, 11:48 AM
I was obese for the past 10 years or so, and just shed 80 lbs in the past 8 months. Years of yo-yo dieting plus the past year of aggressive cutting has probably wreaked havoc on my metabolism and natural test production.

I'll be done cutting as of June 1st, and wouldn't mind jumping on something to help boost my test a bit or at least help it get to normal levels. I've thought about running a low-dose test cycle, or a few DS' or Ph's but I'd rather take something that doesn't require PCT, and I'm not at the stage where I need to start tinkering with crank or DS/Ph's yet.

Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it? I was under the impression Gaspari has provided some kind of factual evidence behind novedex, but lo and behold, the BB store doesn't sell it anymore.

I'm very well-versed in nutrition, so I also think that once I start lean-bulking I'll be able to get a decent amount of fats in order to support test production. I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

I've read about bioforge, activate xtreme, E-bol, etc, but I don't actually know what works and what doesnt. I DO know that a lot of "test boosters" out there are simply composed of some proprietary compound that has a few micrograms of an active ingredient that has minimal scientific backing and whole bunch of filler, so I just don't want to get ripped off and pop back a bunch of caps of placebo.

Cliffs
Was super fat for a long time.
No longer super fat, but natural test production is probably down from dieting so hard.
I know a lot of test boosters are sh*t.
Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it?
I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

Reps and thanks.

Hey Bro,

There is a LOT of junk out there when it comes to test boosters and some of them can even be harmful. Novedex XT by Gaspari is pretty good, but you may want to try something a little bit more rounded. I recently tried Test Force by Chicago Nutrition. It is a blend of Tribulus, Avenia, Iso-6, and a few other test boosting ingredients that i can't remember. I took it and absolutely loved it. I know several people that have all tried it and have seen great results (strength and lean muscle).

darkshines
04-09-2010, 12:00 PM
Other than the now banned pro hormones I would say Gaspari Haladrol MT or this new stuff I tried called Test Force by Chicago Nutrition

Are you talking about the ones that were banned in 2005? 1-AD, 4-AD, etc? Or the ones that are getting banned in a couple months; boldione, desoxymethyltestosterone, and 19-nor-4,9(10)-androstadienedione? Think it might be wise to stock up on the ones that are getting banned soon, for future cycles?


Hey Bro,

There is a LOT of junk out there when it comes to test boosters and some of them can even be harmful. Novedex XT by Gaspari is pretty good, but you may want to try something a little bit more rounded. I recently tried Test Force by Chicago Nutrition. It is a blend of Tribulus, Avenia, Iso-6, and a few other test boosting ingredients that i can't remember. I took it and absolutely loved it. I know several people that have all tried it and have seen great results (strength and lean muscle). I stumbled across it at this webstsite called supplementbrothers.com. Check it out and see what you think.

Thanks, I'll read into it brah. Reps.

Sldge
04-09-2010, 12:11 PM
I was obese for the past 10 years or so, and just shed 80 lbs in the past 8 months. Years of yo-yo dieting plus the past year of aggressive cutting has probably wreaked havoc on my metabolism and natural test production.

I'll be done cutting as of June 1st, and wouldn't mind jumping on something to help boost my test a bit or at least help it get to normal levels. I've thought about running a low-dose test cycle, or a few DS' or Ph's but I'd rather take something that doesn't require PCT, and I'm not at the stage where I need to start tinkering with crank or DS/Ph's yet.

Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it? I was under the impression Gaspari has provided some kind of factual evidence behind novedex, but lo and behold, the BB store doesn't sell it anymore.

I'm very well-versed in nutrition, so I also think that once I start lean-bulking I'll be able to get a decent amount of fats in order to support test production. I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

I've read about bioforge, activate xtreme, E-bol, etc, but I don't actually know what works and what doesnt. I DO know that a lot of "test boosters" out there are simply composed of some proprietary compound that has a few micrograms of an active ingredient that has minimal scientific backing and whole bunch of filler, so I just don't want to get ripped off and pop back a bunch of caps of placebo.

Cliffs
Was super fat for a long time.
No longer super fat, but natural test production is probably down from dieting so hard.
I know a lot of test boosters are sh*t.
Can anyone suggest something that actually has some validity/scientific evidence behind it?
I just want something to accelerate that production a bit, or boost it, or at least make it easier to get back to natural levels quicker.

Reps and thanks.ACTX has tons of science behind it and review after review has been very good. We also have blood work showing it to be effective, Its one of the most recommended test boosters for a good reason.


Hey Bro,

There is a LOT of junk out there when it comes to test boosters and some of them can even be harmful. Novedex XT by Gaspari is pretty good, but you may want to try something a little bit more rounded. I recently tried Test Force by Chicago Nutrition. It is a blend of Tribulus, Avenia, Iso-6, and a few other test boosting ingredients that i can't remember. I took it and absolutely loved it. I know several people that have all tried it and have seen great results (strength and lean muscle). Tribulus doesnt raise testosterone and avena is questionable. If that is what they are using as a major part of the formula I would seriously reconsider recommending that to anyone. Besides its not even sold here.

Drop_Dead
04-09-2010, 12:15 PM
bioforge hands down


im gonna try stacking it with activate xtreme within the next few months

Sldge
04-09-2010, 12:17 PM
bioforge hands down


im gonna try stacking it with activate xtreme within the next few months

Thats a very good stack.

darkshines
04-09-2010, 12:29 PM
ACTX has tons of science behind it and review after review has been very good. We also have blood work showing it to be effective, Its one of the most recommended test boosters for a good reason.

If I recall correctly, AX's main active is stinging-nettle based, right?

Do you have any thoughts on icariin's alleged estrogenic activity?

I've heard great things about Indole-3-Carbinol from the cancer-prevention crowd; what's its purpose in ActX? For the AI properties?

Thanks broseidon, repped.

darkshines
04-09-2010, 12:36 PM
bioforge hands down

im gonna try stacking it with activate xtreme within the next few months


Thats a very good stack.


Biotivia's product right? I've heard a few good things about that. When you stack it, what you suggest?

4 weeks? 1 bottles of AX, 1 bottle of Bioforge? 4 AX tabs/ 3 Bioforge a day?

Sldge
04-09-2010, 12:45 PM
If I recall correctly, AX's main active is stinging-nettle based, right?

Do you have any thoughts on icariin's alleged estrogenic activity?

I've heard great things about Indole-3-Carbinol from the cancer-prevention crowd; what's its purpose in ActX? For the AI properties?

Thanks broseidon, repped.I wish I had saved my Icariin posts. The search here sucks. Ive addressed it before and its really a none issue. Blood work confirms it, not only with ACTX but in other products that use a heavy dose of Icariin like BF. IIRC its a 3 step metabolite that is sythetically made from Icariin that MAY be estrogenic. But that metabolite is made in vitro not in vivo.

I3C is used in ACTX as a way to balance out estrogen levels to the healthy side. Its not a strong lowering effect on estrogen but you dont want a strong effect. As estrogen gets too low you lose sex drive. Its about a control of estrogen while testosterone goes up and thats what you get with ACTX.


Biotivia's product right? I've heard a few good things about that. When you stack it, what you suggest?

4 weeks? 1 bottles of AX, 1 bottle of Bioforge? 4 AX tabs/ 3 Bioforge a day?Thats how I would use it, yes.

darkshines
04-09-2010, 01:06 PM
I wish I had saved my Icariin posts. The search here sucks. Ive addressed it before and its really a none issue. Blood work confirms it, not only with ACTX but in other products that use a heavy dose of Icariin like BF. IIRC its a 3 step metabolite that is sythetically made from Icariin that MAY be estrogenic. But that metabolite is made in vitro not in vivo.

I3C is used in ACTX as a way to balance out estrogen levels to the healthy side. Its not a strong lowering effect on estrogen but you dont want a strong effect. As estrogen gets too low you lose sex drive. Its about a control of estrogen while testosterone goes up and thats what you get with ACTX.

Thats how I would use it, yes.

Right on, thanks for the assistance man, repped. Last question, do you know if BB has any trouble getting ActX or Bioforge into Canada? I've read great things about ActX + Novedex, but I see that BB doesn't carry that anymore.

Fit_4Life
04-09-2010, 02:11 PM
I started using Testfreak. I got on this product because i like their fat burner, Rippedfreak.
It has clinically proven doses of ingredients testofen, zma and estrogen blockers (also has 1000mg tribulus). As darkshines said, i wanted a test booster that had scientific back up so i had to give it a try based on the formula. Got it from their website cause it's not on bb.com. 3 weeks in and it's good. i will do 2 bottles (8 weeks) and report back.

I was thinking of taking lysine and arginine for 8 weeks after this because of a study i read about in muscle and fitness that showed GH increase at @ 6g/day/each and then go back on test booster.
what do you guys think?

THEHUGE
04-10-2010, 02:48 PM
bioforge hands down


im gonna try stacking it with activate xtreme within the next few months


Thats a very good stack.
Agreed. Totally.


Biotivia's product right? I've heard a few good things about that. When you stack it, what you suggest?

4 weeks? 1 bottles of AX, 1 bottle of Bioforge? 4 AX tabs/ 3 Bioforge a day?
Correct dosing scheme. I'd push it to 8 weeks tho.


Right on, thanks for the assistance man, repped. Last question, do you know if BB has any trouble getting ActX or Bioforge into Canada? I've read great things about ActX + Novedex, but I see that BB doesn't carry that anymore.

As far as I know both get shipped to Canada trouble-free.

Idoreps
04-10-2010, 02:51 PM
There are a lot of test boosters I can't take since they will cause a positive test result in any PL fed that does testing in accordance with WADA guidelines. That said, Tribustol by NES is amazing! I have only been on it a week, and the recovery time after workouts is unbelievable. I know a lot of people don't think any tribulus products work, but this one seems to be exactly as described for me so far. I know others that have had amazing results with this as well. It tests clean for any sport, and is produced in an FDA approved lab. I highly recommend this just from my short term experience with it.^^^

apilot
04-11-2010, 01:43 PM
4 weeks? 1 bottles of AX, 1 bottle of Bioforge? 4 AX tabs/ 3 Bioforge a day?


Thats how I would use it, yes.

For a guy over 250lbs: 6 AX tabs and 3 Bioforge tabs a day? Thanks

On another note: Any idea what I can stack with AX to take the place of Gaspari Nutrition's Novedex XT? This has been an awesome stack. It's still available for now, but unfortunetly Gaspari Nutrition has discontinued Novedex XT.

Sldge
04-11-2010, 02:15 PM
Right on, thanks for the assistance man, repped. Last question, do you know if BB has any trouble getting ActX or Bioforge into Canada? I've read great things about ActX + Novedex, but I see that BB doesn't carry that anymore.As far as I know there is no reason why you couldnt get either in Canada.


For a guy over 250lbs: 6 AX tabs and 3 Bioforge tabs a day? Thanks

On another note: Any idea what I can stack with AX to take the place of Gaspari Nutrition's Novedex XT? This has been an awesome stack. It's still available for now, but unfortunetly Gaspari Nutrition has discontinued Novedex XT.over 250 definitely take 6 and 3. I cant release much information yet but there are definitely things in the works for future replacement of steroidal AIs.

apilot
04-11-2010, 07:28 PM
I cant release much information yet but there are definitely things in the works for future replacement of steroidal AIs.

Awesome! Please keep me in the loop.

elevateme555
04-12-2010, 09:05 AM
as of natual test boosters i would go with testanon 2250 and pro hormones i would go with tokyo tren... gained 26 pounds off tokyo make sure post cyle is present after the tren cycle... maybe even a milk thissle after to be safe

matpat3000
04-12-2010, 06:06 PM
Is t-911 and Novedex xt a good stack? I can get both for cheap but don't want to waist my time if t-911 is junk. Thanks.

And if t-911 is not a waste of money, does anybody know how I should cycle it ED with Novedex?

Ryan557
04-13-2010, 04:59 AM
as of natual test boosters i would go with testanon 2250 and pro hormones i would go with tokyo tren... gained 26 pounds off tokyo make sure post cyle is present after the tren cycle... maybe even a milk thissle after to be safe


fail troll

servoquodservo
04-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Hello everyone, I am new here but cannot find a new member spot, so if someone could please direct me, I would be very grateful :)

I am 6', ~193lbs ~13-15% bf, and I am using NOW Foods Tribulus right now, Libido is high, ability to perform is awesome if I do say so myself, was even more rediculous with an N02 product. Weights have not jumped up, but there has been a slight increase, bf in mirror seems lower, slightly more muscle mass in mirror, aggression is higher but not "anabolic" like. For the price, this product is great. Their multis are great as well on a side note.

CK1154
04-16-2010, 05:22 PM
I'm currently18 years old at 6'3, 200 pounds, trying to gain at least 20 pounds in the next 4-5 months. I was considering taking HMG by ACL (nutritionarsenal.com:80/American-Cellular-Labs-HMG-Xtreme-90-capsules-P68.aspx[/url]), stacked with Ah-89, Estro, and Livr, all by the same company. Would anybody recommend this? I would also like a large increase in strength.

Guardian
04-16-2010, 05:43 PM
From my research and experience quality Longjack is the most powerful compound at raising test, but its expensive and hard to find quality forms of.

I think if a company on bbing.com made a high powered longjack with an extremely mild ai it would have great feedback.

I think companies may be nervous of the longjack oriented route because it generally needs to be cycled more often ie 5 days on 2 days off.

Psylence
04-16-2010, 06:35 PM
I hear everyone is drinking onion juice these days, 300% raise in test.

http://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html

tranceaddict
04-16-2010, 06:36 PM
Test E by far

hedfullofmusic
04-16-2010, 08:55 PM
fail troll

lol.

markishi
04-17-2010, 06:12 AM
Natabolic stack from lg, the formadrol worked great and have yet to take the T-911 but have heard great things.

zest
04-18-2010, 02:53 AM
BEAST- Supertest..

SpiderJerusalem
04-20-2010, 04:33 PM
I hear everyone is drinking onion juice these days, 300% raise in test.

http://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html

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???

Highlander_40
04-21-2010, 05:06 AM
Maybe that explains the horny frenchmen, onions & red wine (reverastol) LOL

http://www.hotforwords.com/wp-content/uploads/pepelepew-wallpaper.jpg


*another vote for activatextreme, adds muscle if feed the body protein & lift, plus I went up to 6 for a few days and promptly got acne......at 41 years old.

Cycling off a week or 2 just now, another bottle on the way

jcd30
04-21-2010, 10:06 AM
T anabole by roman pharmaceuticals

SpiderJerusalem
04-22-2010, 08:55 PM
T anabole by roman pharmaceuticals

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from their site:

T-Anabol

Clinical studied Ingredients

T-Anabol will rival any Pro-Hormone

Corp Blog for more ingrediants info

T-Anabol Proprietary blend:

Tribulus Alatus

Maslinic Acid

Testofen

???

lokobreed
04-25-2010, 06:56 AM
What is everyones opinions on Anabolic Innovations TestoPRO ?

matpat3000
04-27-2010, 06:15 PM
I know this is probably not the right place for this but...

I've been taking t-911 and Novedex XT for about two weeks now and I haven't noticed too much in energy, pump, or any of that kind of stuff (no I wasnt expecting to either) but I have noticed that for the first time in my life my muscles are rock solid when flexing.

Is that common with products like these?

I'm guessing it's due to the fact that I have more testosterone and less estrogen?

matpat3000
04-27-2010, 06:25 PM
I know this is probably not the right place for this but...

I've been taking t-911 and Novedex XT for about two weeks now and I haven't noticed too much in energy, pump, or any of that kind of stuff (no I wasnt expecting to either) but I have noticed that for the first time in my life my muscles are rock solid when flexing.

Is that common with products like these?

I'm guessing it's due to the fact that I have more testosterone and less estrogen?

Highlander_40
05-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Here is my scorecard:

Vasectomy, then post vasectomy test = clear.

Follow up test = lots of little swimmers

You should market activatextreme to the trying for a baby crowd - seriously

something rewired me, and I put it down to the testosterone boosting. My urologist is confused, either he missed something in the op (doubtful as first test clear), or I got "fusion", or the wee bastards are jumping the gap.

Another op beckons, going to wait and try another doc, well that's the theory but bad experience last time, so potential for chickening out is high. Meanwhile, birth control.

Sldge
05-04-2010, 09:37 AM
Here is my scorecard:

Vasectomy, then post vasectomy test = clear.

Follow up test = lots of little swimmers

You should market activatextreme to the trying for a baby crowd - seriously

something rewired me, and I put it down to the testosterone boosting. My urologist is confused, either he missed something in the op (doubtful as first test clear), or I got "fusion", or the wee bastards are jumping the gap.

Another op beckons, going to wait and try another doc, well that's the theory but bad experience last time, so potential for chickening out is high. Meanwhile, birth control.

Wow! Thats the first time I have ever heard that. Ive gotten emails from people of all ages including 80+ year olds who absolutely love it but I have never heard that. Thanks for posting.

pwicks83
05-04-2010, 11:32 AM
Pink Magic

snatonsb
05-04-2010, 07:56 PM
Cellularcore P6 was a good one for me, I took it awhile back.

00gie_b00gie
05-05-2010, 12:23 PM
Ok after reading these "reviews" and looking at products Tribulus does not seem to have any effect on T levels. Its probably the name that sounds like testosterone so that people will buy it thinking it will have an effect of Test.
Here are 2 studies i found that relate to Tribulus.

The effect of five weeks of Tribulus terrestris supplementation on muscle strength and body composition during preseason training in elite rugby league players.

Rogerson S, Riches CJ, Jennings C, Weatherby RP, Meir RA, Marshall-Gradisnik SM.

School of Exercise Science and Sport Management, Southern Cross University Lismore, New South Wales, Australia. srogerson10@bigpond.com
Abstract

Tribulus terrestris is an herbal nutritional supplement that is promoted to produce large gains in strength and lean muscle mass in 5-28 days (15, 18). Although some manufacturers claim T. terrestris will not lead to a positive drug test, others have suggested that T. terrestris may increase the urinary testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio, which may place athletes at risk of a positive drug test. The purpose of the study was to determine the effect of T. terrestris on strength, fat free mass, and the urinary T/E ratio during 5 weeks of preseason training in elite rugby league players. Twenty-two Australian elite male rugby league players (mean +/- SD; age = 19.8 +/- 2.9 years; weight = 88.0 +/- 9.5 kg) were match-paired and randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to either a T. terrestris (n = 11) or placebo (n = 11) group. All subjects performed structured heavy resistance training as part of the club's preseason preparations. A T. terrestris extract (450 mg.d(-1)) or placebo capsules were consumed once daily for 5 weeks. Muscular strength, body composition, and the urinary T/E ratio were monitored prior to and after supplementation. After 5 weeks of training, strength and fat free mass increased significantly without any between-group differences. No between-group differences were noted in the urinary T/E ratio. It was concluded that T. terrestris did not produce the large gains in strength or lean muscle mass that many manufacturers claim can be experienced within 5-28 days. Furthermore, T. terrestris did not alter the urinary T/E ratio and would not place an athlete at risk of testing positive based on the World Anti-Doping Agency's urinary T/E ratio limit of 4:1.

and

The influence of the Tribulus terrestris extract on the parameters of the functional preparedness and athletes' organism homeostasis.

Milasius K, Dadeliene R, Skernevicius J.

Vilnius Pedagogical University, Lithuania.
Abstract

The influence of the Tribulus terrestris extract on the parameters of the functional preparadness and athletes' organism homeostase was investigated. It was established the positive impact of dietary supplement "Tribulus" (Optimum Nutrition, U.S.A.) using per 1 capsule 3 times a day during 20 days on athletes' physical power in various energy producing zones: anaerobic alactic muscular power and anaerobic alactic glycolytic power statistically reliable increased. Tribulus terrestris extract, after 20 days of consuming it, did not have essential effect on erythrocytes, haemoglobin and thrombocytes indices. During the experimental period statistically importantly increased percentage of granulocytes and decreased percentage of leucocytes show negative impact of this food supplement on changes of leucocytes formula in athletes' blood. Creatinkinase concentration in athletes' blood statistically importantly has increased and creatinine amount has had a tendency to decline during 20 days period of consuming Tribulus terrestris extract. The declining tendency of urea, cholesterol and bilirubin concentrations has appeared. The concentration of blood testosterone increased statistically reliable during the first half (10 days) of the experiment; it did not grow during the next 10 days while consuming Tribulus still.

So it seems like Novadex Xt which does not contain Tribulus is probably on the right track and one I will probably purchase. Also directed at |ceman do you have the full study of Baylor University? In all my resources from college I can only find the abstract on Novedex XT. I am interested in reading the full study.

Highlander_40
05-06-2010, 02:48 PM
21 seems young to be needing a boost to err early 20s levels, but anyway

all the research needed is to follow consumers that preceded you, give one of the top rated a trial, and you'll find out what works for your body in a couple/three weeks, they are not expensive, nor hazardous

ALLdaytoday
05-06-2010, 04:13 PM
i tried activate x and novedext for like 2 -3 weeks and i felt like my sex drive actually got lower so i stopped using it. is formadrol going to be any better? and even if my test levels do increase, once i stop using it does the levels /sex drive go back to the way it was? thanks in advance. i am 25 and my test level is 297 right now. i just got checked. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Brandon_Cantu
05-07-2010, 01:23 PM
zinc plus tribulus plus horny goat weed. atleast thats works for me

RMA08
05-08-2010, 06:51 AM
What form of Zinc?

Parrishr13
05-08-2010, 07:44 AM
I've had some good results with Animal Test stacked with Animal Stak. I ran them both for 3 weeks and had some strength gains. I just started Beast Supertest and so far I like it.


I hear everyone is drinking onion juice these days, 300% raise in test.

http://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html

lol


BEAST- Supertest..

I'm currently using this and am satisfied so far. I'm also stacking it with Predator and Creature. 6 days in and I can already feel it. Good stuff.


NotSureIfSerious.jpg


???

lol


Pink Magic

This is by USP Labs right? Is it out already, I can't find it anywhere.

WayanWiednya22
05-09-2010, 07:47 AM
This one is easy..

Protobolan by Syn-Tec Sports Nutrition is a High Potency Tribulus formula with a bit more...
Here are the products specs:

Ingredients Per 4 caps:

Tribulus Terrestris Extract (200:1)
Min 90% saponins 800mg
Equivalent Dry Herb 160,000mg
Standardized Protodioscin 40%
320mg

Cissus Quadrangularis Extract (20:1) 400mg
Equivalent Dry Herb 8,000mg

Urtica Dioica Extract (5:1) 400mg
Equivalent Dry Herb 2,000mg

Compare with other formulas and you will see just how good it is... Look up Syn-Tec Online..

JinNC
05-10-2010, 02:36 AM
Last year I did two test boosters. First test booster cycle included Novedex XT by Gaspari and I saw some good solid gains from it. After a break, I did Neogenix Supremacy and saw very impressive gains with it. To me, it was superior to Gaspari (and I'm a big Gaspari fan!).

Currently I just started a Thermolife Stack including: T-Bol & E-Bol. It's only been one week, so I can't comment just yet but I feel it's going to be an impressive stack!

pwicks83
05-10-2010, 07:33 AM
No it's not out yet butt it is good. I have been using it for 2 weeks now and love it



This is by USP Labs right? Is it out already, I can't find it anywhere.[/QUOTE]

Sldge
05-10-2010, 10:18 AM
i tried activate x and novedext for like 2 -3 weeks and i felt like my sex drive actually got lower so i stopped using it. is formadrol going to be any better? and even if my test levels do increase, once i stop using it does the levels /sex drive go back to the way it was? thanks in advance. i am 25 and my test level is 297 right now. i just got checked. any help would be greatly appreciated.

How many caps of Novedex XT were you using? Thats usually what happens when the dose is too much.

You should have better results with 2-3 ACTX taken twice a day and only a single cap of NXT taken when you first wake up in the am.

Sldge
05-10-2010, 10:23 AM
i tried activate x and novedext for like 2 -3 weeks and i felt like my sex drive actually got lower so i stopped using it. is formadrol going to be any better? and even if my test levels do increase, once i stop using it does the levels /sex drive go back to the way it was? thanks in advance. i am 25 and my test level is 297 right now. i just got checked. any help would be greatly appreciated.Also here is a recent log with bloodwork by someone close to your age.





Expectations

Strength

Strength gains were the biggest thing I got from this log. Lets recap some lifts and the strength gains:

Hack Squats -- 4 Plates/Side x 10 ---> 4 Plates + 25/Side x 12 (+50lbs +2 Reps)
DB RDL's -- 100's x 10 ---> 100's x 16 (+6 Reps)
Leg Press -- 6 Plates+25/Side x 12 ---> 7 Plates+25/Side x 10 (+90lbs)
Standing Military Press -- 155 x 5 --> 155 x 9 (+4 Reps)
Barbell Row: 230 x 8 ---> 255 x 10 (+25lbs +2 Reps)
Dumbbell Bench Press: 100's x 10 --> 120's x 7 (+20lbs)
Skullcrusher: 110 x 10 ---> 135 x 12 (+25lbs +2 Reps)
Leg Extension 190 x 10 ---> 210 x 12 (+20lbs +2 Reps)
Box Squats -- 315 x 10 ---> 355 x 8 (+40lbs)

There were other small additions to reps or weight, but these stuck out the most. This was just for 1 month of progress.

Side Effects

I felt no side effects during the log.

Dosage

3 Caps of Lean Xtreme, and 4 caps of Activate Xtreme per day for 30 days.

Test-Levels

I previously ran BioForge (A test-booster) and saw my Overall test levels drop after two bottles. Lets see what this supplement brings

Beginning: 125 ng/dl (250-1100 Range) -- Total
16.0 ng/dl (35-155 Range) -- Free

After: (250-1100 Range) 396 -- Total
(35-155 Range) 105 -- Free

YES your reading that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Physique

I ended the log at 176lbs that is a 11lb increase over the time of the log (1 bottle AX + LX)
Overall my bodyfat increased .5% from 11.6% on the BODPOD to 12.1% on calipers I was 9.8% to start, and 10.2% at the end.

Thank you to everyone from DS for their patience, I took a lot of time because I wanted to do it right, and in the end +11lbs, Test levels have come up from 125 ng/dl, and I have added some QUALITY mass.

TheFugitive
05-10-2010, 10:52 AM
BioForge
Dominate
MassFX

DAA sounds promising.

TheFugitive
05-10-2010, 10:56 AM
Looking forward to AX-LX stak this summer.

andrewbower
05-10-2010, 02:56 PM
If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

EST Methyl Mass Pre-Workout
Contains (Propadrol (6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol propionate) Plus 3 types of creatine.
Really good product, one of the best prohormones on the market.

Positives:
Ive been using it for about 2 weeks and gained about 2 lbs so far.
- Have a good strength increase with some excersises (not all for some reason?)
- Pumps are rediculous.
- Good, gradual energy lift, not a seedy caffine high like most Preworkouts
- Increased Appitite

Negatives:
- Propionate has a short ester in the body so you have to take it every day.
- Energy does die down quite a bit towards the end of your session. My forearms and hands go weak on my last few excersises.

Great product, try it out!

kluska399
05-10-2010, 03:30 PM
most test natural boosters rely on anti-estrogen ingredients and a couple alleged test boosters like zma and tribulus (i dont think zma and tribulus work).

I'd stick to natural anti-estrogens like DIM and chrysin (extracts from broccoli and whatnot).

Thus my recommendation is Olympian Labs DIM.

trib only works if it is a standarized amount of protodioscin... read this http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=32791 ...

1) androgenerator
2)HCGenerate (guys who use real testosterone injections use this in their post cycle... yeah, its that potent)
3)house of muscle tribulus (standarized to 40% protodioscin and 750mg of trib)

if you dont know why the supplement you took with less trib works better then the supplement you took with less trib.. read this!!! http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=32791

TheFugitive
05-11-2010, 06:29 PM
This guy needs help^^^^

TotalGymFreak
05-15-2010, 09:15 AM
Tribulus Terresteris?
I choose this mainly because it is quite cheap, £15 for 90 capsules where I live

nni
05-15-2010, 09:36 AM
Tribulus Terresteris?
I choose this mainly because it is quite cheap, £15 for 90 capsules where I live

doesnt boost test.

THEHUGE
05-15-2010, 09:59 AM
This guy needs help^^^^

Which one of his countless forums reincarnations?

hodong6389
05-22-2010, 01:50 PM
zma and tribulus will make you buff

Footprints31
05-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Any idea when Bioforge or Bioforge Max will be available, it seems like it's been forever since it's been in stock...

papi93
05-26-2010, 03:34 PM
What form of Zinc?

Zinc picolinate.

98zman
06-05-2010, 08:56 AM
Pink Magic

I hear pink magic is getting great reviews so far. I'm waiting to see the makeup of this product guess it hasn't been released yet to the public.

sluggysan
06-05-2010, 05:05 PM
Back in college I took M 1 Test. Insane. This was right before it became illegal.

soapmaker77
06-05-2010, 07:03 PM
ive used 3
isa-test
bioforge
supremacy

the neogenix supremacy pwned the others

Porkchop74
06-07-2010, 09:19 AM
Pink Magic

the Pink Magic InnerCircle release is one day away !

ALLdaytoday
06-11-2010, 11:05 AM
will formadrol decrease libido/sex drive? i need something that will increase sex drive/libido very noticibly! can someone help?

98zman
06-11-2010, 01:14 PM
the Pink Magic InnerCircle release is one day away !

When will pink magic be released to everyone else?

weak704
06-15-2010, 10:08 AM
Activate Xtreme is the sh!t, I'm only in my 3rd week and already put on 6lbs and I look leaner than before (on a 3.5k calorie diet), my strenght has also gone up, I deadlifted 3 plates last night and I've been stuck on 305 for 3 weeks before that.

I will def run activate xtreme again in the future, plus all their reps are very helpful

dj_604
06-15-2010, 05:40 PM
I'm 19 and about to stack Beta Alanine, creatine mono, a random protein, and jack3d. After was looking to try novedex XT with another test product (suggestions appreciated). Any thoughts on using a test-booster at this age in regards to safety and overall effectiveness considering my age and most-likely decently high test levels already?

Footprints31
06-15-2010, 08:44 PM
Pink Magic is a Test Booster? Any updates on when it will be available or how it stacks up against Bioforge or Neogenix Supremacy?

BeefyTits
06-17-2010, 07:29 AM
Bioforge back in stock on BB.com and both Bioforge and Bioforge MAX available on the BIOTIVIA website. Just ordered mine!

EatenByAlgae
06-18-2010, 03:16 PM
Is it advisable for a 24 year old to take a test booster?

I was looking to start Activate Xtreme

or some stuff at the store called Tren

THEHUGE
06-18-2010, 11:52 PM
Bioforge back in stock on BB.com and both Bioforge and Bioforge MAX available on the BIOTIVIA website. Just ordered mine!

Enjoy your new toy :D

WeightGainNet
06-19-2010, 05:13 PM
I would have to say ZMA. I have had the best response to it and I also get better sleep. Better sleep = more testosterone as an added benefit to the additional zinc in my body as well.

chunkyfatboy
06-23-2010, 08:29 AM
What about Pink Magic (not paying attention to price)? Overhyped POS or the real deal?

I tried T-Bol and that didn't do chit but give me the runs.

TrueAmateur
06-23-2010, 10:17 AM
What about Pink Magic (not paying attention to price)? Overhyped POS or the real deal?

I tried T-Bolhttp://top5choices/-pics-/me.jpgand that didn't do chit but give me the runs.

Pink = feminine color

Magic = illusion / misguided perception

Now which part of any of that sounds like a boost to a man's ego or testosterone... Exactly, but I'll let you do the math on that one.

Kilale
06-23-2010, 01:02 PM
Damn pretty much all the supps listed in here I cant even find in Canada..

Hockey84
06-23-2010, 06:03 PM
Active xtreme + Stoked

icetink
06-23-2010, 07:03 PM
Damn pretty much all the supps listed in here I cant even find in Canada..

Almost all of the test boosters from the bb.com store ship to Canada. There are places to get them in Canada, but you'll likely be paying MRSP or close to double the prices compared to those on the bb.com store.

anabolict
06-23-2010, 09:12 PM
i like phyto-test + cel formestane. best combo hards down for me personally

RMA08
06-24-2010, 07:59 AM
What's the best product for kick starting your natural production?

Sean_A_Nitro
06-24-2010, 02:10 PM
Got my Pink Magic today. Never taken a test booster before, have u guys noticed that lose all your muscle gains when u stop using it?

98zman
06-25-2010, 08:10 AM
Got my Pink Magic today. Never taken a test booster before, have u guys noticed that lose all your muscle gains when u stop using it?

Is pink magic a natural anabolic or test booster?

Sean_A_Nitro
06-25-2010, 11:41 AM
Is pink magic a natural anabolic or test booster?

I've heard some people call it a test booster and others a natural anabolic, I'd like an answer to this as well.

nate0987
06-26-2010, 07:58 AM
Hey guys. Im looking into taking either BSN Axis-HT, Jungle Warfare Extreme, Bad Ass Mass, Novedex XT, Methyl 1-D or P6. My goals are to build lean muscle mass and reduce body fat. Which supplement do you guys suggest I use?

Thanks in advance!

bjjbadboy
06-26-2010, 01:05 PM
i personally just added a test booster just test extract vitamin shoppe brand + jacked 3d i gain easy put on 11lbs of muscle and leaned out but started getting little bloated could be do to laxying on the diet and cardio prob and just going way heavy. deff got alot stronger but....

non of these over the counter test are steroids, many people have said the test boosters are a waste and do nothing if you want test you juice bottom line. which i will not the idea of the booster is that it helps the body utilize free radical test in your system...kind of like little guys that swim away lol...so imho dont waste money on expensive test products no sub for hard work and proper diet..

supps i have taking protein all differents like MHP best...jacked3d, MHP TRAC, and animal cuts and that test vit....jacked and animal cuts deff the best would not really take anything else besides usually bcaa's and zma

Canuck5056
06-28-2010, 06:56 PM
Friend of mine gave me 4 days worth of Test Freak...will I notice any difference (i.e. find out if
I want to buy it) off such a small sample, or does it take longer for any effects to kick in?

Cheers.

theronin391
06-28-2010, 09:20 PM
Activate Xtreme is the sh!t, I'm only in my 3rd week and already put on 6lbs and I look leaner than before (on a 3.5k calorie diet), my strenght has also gone up, I deadlifted 3 plates last night and I've been stuck on 305 for 3 weeks before that.

I will def run activate xtreme again in the future, plus all their reps are very helpful

Good cause Im about to start on Activate Xtreme!!!

nate0987
06-28-2010, 10:59 PM
hey guys, whats the difference between jungle warfare and jungle warfare extreme? cheers, will rep for help!

icetink
06-29-2010, 08:03 AM
Friend of mine gave me 4 days worth of Test Freak...will I notice any difference (i.e. find out if
I want to buy it) off such a small sample, or does it take longer for any effects to kick in?

Cheers.

You will most likely NOT notice any difference with only 4 days. It took around 3 weeks for me to notice effects.

MHPJohn
07-01-2010, 06:24 PM
VNS-9 extreme

kuyaii
07-02-2010, 05:18 AM
I took Activate Xtreme and novedex XT did the following 2caps a day/1 per day novedex xt and by 2nd day, i had trouble sleeping.

It's day 5 and i still can't sleep.

Should I lower the Activate Xtreme to 3 dosage or take out the novedex?

Sniperzzzz
07-02-2010, 05:24 AM
Activate Xtreme is the sh!t, I'm only in my 3rd week and already put on 6lbs and I look leaner than before (on a 3.5k calorie diet), my strenght has also gone up, I deadlifted 3 plates last night and I've been stuck on 305 for 3 weeks before that.

I will def run activate xtreme again in the future, plus all their reps are very helpful

:sigh:

dust1984
07-02-2010, 08:21 AM
I'm a few weeks into Gamma-o... not really feeling much out of it as of now... We'll see, I've been told that when you start the second bottle, there are some noticeable changes. Any thoughts on Gamma?

Spratty
07-04-2010, 04:56 AM
pink = feminine color

magic = illusion / misguided perception

now which part of any of that sounds like a boost to a man's ego or testosterone... Exactly, but i'll let you do the math on that one.

rofl

dropforce
07-07-2010, 07:21 PM
You can get most Test boosters in canada, things like e-bol are tougher to get but i know a canadian site that carries them (e-bol and things like jacked) but you will pay more than on this site. But it is a canadian site so no customs issues

semms95
07-08-2010, 02:11 PM
stoked

Eightpak
07-10-2010, 12:14 PM
TestoFx or TestoPro.

shane14
07-10-2010, 12:36 PM
I'm a few weeks into Gamma-o... not really feeling much out of it as of now... We'll see, I've been told that when you start the second bottle, there are some noticeable changes. Any thoughts on Gamma?

i fell for the same thing man.. spend 90 bucks on a botte cuz a friend recommended it.. but its garbage... it does not work and you wont see or feel any gains. dont waste your money on the second bottle. its only rice bran oil extract.. go with activate xtreme for test boosting and Xfactor :)

GoHardOrGoHme
07-10-2010, 05:26 PM
Best ones ive used are Testopro and Stoked. Stacked together the only way that gets better is adding HGHpro and Glycbol. It doesnt get much better then that for me.

oufinny
07-13-2010, 11:56 AM
Best ones ive used are Testopro and Stoked. Stacked together the only way that gets better is adding HGHpro and Glycbol. It doesnt get much better then that for me.

I have to agree, I just ran TestoPro after a lot of test boosters in a row and it continued to bring me strength gains and positive body comp changes. Though I have not ran stoked, it is surely an excellent addition just like GHGH said.

Bryan_0025
07-13-2010, 12:05 PM
Thrust from Magnum Nutraceuticals is an amazing Test Booster

Reviews:

http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Magnum_Nutraceuticals/Thrust

Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124752281

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124648611

oufinny
07-13-2010, 12:28 PM
What about Pink Magic (not paying attention to price)? Overhyped POS or the real deal?

I tried T-Bol and that didn't do chit but give me the runs.

Frankly all the negative press about Pink Magic is a bunch of crap based on all of the people, like myself one of the first 5 beta testers, who experienced amazing results. It was for me the best single supplement that I have ever taken to date and the beta formula had less active and we dosed lower than the released one. It is an extremely effective test booster and there is no better recomp agent that I have found. Using it on a cutting cycle with a product that contains forslean or a stim fat burner will garner amazing results. I was beyond sad the day I took my last dose and am anxiously awaiting the chance to run it again with something like Recreate or possibly Bio Forge (for the forslean content to enhance cAMP). There are many effective test boosters out there and PM may have worked for me and may not for you, it does not mean it is not effective. I know people love Drive and Activate Xtreme... yeah they do nothing for me if that gives you some perspective.

If you don't go that route I have had great success as well with T-911 and Formadrol Extreme by LG; either taken alone or better yet stacked for 6-8 weeks, that is a serious test boosting combo.

K Rock 12
07-20-2010, 07:16 AM
TestoPro + T-911 = awesome

xStriker7
07-21-2010, 04:54 AM
Biotivia Bio Forge without a doubt.

gmy87
07-21-2010, 08:45 AM
Novedex XT® Anti-Aromatase Testosterone Booster

q-theman
07-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Anyone ever try diesel test pro cycle from Get Diesel? I've ran a cycle of diesel test hardcore in the past with good results, just wondering how this new "blend" ranks. How would you rate it against other test boosters? Looking to do a cycle myself, if enough of the reviews are decent. Still doing research on this product, not a lot of reviews on this board. What was your dosing protocol while on cycle?

What was the reason why Chuck Diesel doesn't frequent this board at all now? He used to be on every once in a while, did he have a falling out with bb.com? I see that bb.com only carries a few of his products now, I have used some of his products in the past with great results. (nos ether, diesel test 2010-that was great!!!!)

Thanks, will rep for help.

RJM1981
07-29-2010, 08:28 PM
Spartan Blend is the best. It contains the 4 essentials for a strong testosterone boost L-Arginine, Tribulus, Zinc, and Epimedium.




If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

scott0086
08-03-2010, 10:24 PM
I had some gains on testopro, but the problem with these products is it's hard to tell what kind of gains you might have got with or without them.

bigmike2008
08-17-2010, 08:21 PM
Are there any potentially adverse effects from taking test boosters? Will it have any effect on your body's natural production once you are finished taking it? Just want to make sure before I give it a shot.

fozzyengine1
08-25-2010, 01:07 PM
x2 ... Activate Xtreme / Novedex XT is the best stack Ive ever ran

Going to run T-Bol / Hyperdrolx2 soon, high expectations... although I still think Novedex Xt (ATD) is probably the strongest AI, I prefer to avoid the side effects :)

What were the side effect and what gains did you make?

JessicaHall1981
08-26-2010, 11:39 AM
pizza anyone?

AllPro2
08-27-2010, 06:53 AM
Good thread.

I saw a like of good comments on

Controlled Labs Blue Up
Gaspari NOVEDEX XT
Dymatize Z-FORCE
Driven Sports ACTIVATE XTREME

I would like to throw one more out there.

Xero Limits Novatest. I have been using it for about a month and have notice good strength gains. Anyone else try it?

Pete_oz
08-27-2010, 06:43 PM
Just finished up my first run of a test booster to see if there would be any results.

Had MHP T-Bomb II, and must say, I was impressed. Didn't notice anything at first to be honest, but 2 weeks in, and I started to notice strength gains more than anything. Was able to push through a few extra reps, and after 3rd week, found myself adding extra weight and hitting the same reps as I would've before starting the cycle. A few people have commented that I've added some size and definition, but personally I haven't noticed this as much as the strength gains.

With the bottle now finished, will be interesting to see how my lifts are without the test booster.

Cheers.

CrazyTall
08-27-2010, 06:46 PM
sustanon 250 because it blends 4 in one. Better than most on here, but Ive never tried it. Ive heard of people gaining 25 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Prob BS from the company rep but still got my curiosity. Might add it onto my next bb.com order, along with no-xplode, of course.

larkham
08-28-2010, 05:08 AM
sustanon 250 because it blends 4 in one. Better than most on here, but Ive never tried it. Ive heard of people gaining 25 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Prob BS from the company rep but still got my curiosity. Might add it onto my next bb.com order, along with no-xplode, of course.

Huh? Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually buy Sustanon 250 on BB...

bullmuscle
08-29-2010, 02:22 PM
They work synergistically together by raising total test and lower estrogen (from the AI) and by increasing the use of free test (ACTX) from the larger boost in total test. Plus you have Icariin which mimics testosterone and is a great sex aid (similar although much weaker then Viagra). The benefits taken together are definitely better then either one taken alone.

Do you have the recommended cycle duration and dosage for Activate X and Novedex XT?

ACE79
08-29-2010, 03:21 PM
Thrust from Magnum Nutraceuticals is an amazing Test Booster

Reviews:

http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Magnum_Nutraceuticals/Thrust

Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124752281

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124648611

Looks great, but a bit pricey for a natural booster....hook me up with a bottle? :D

ACE79
08-29-2010, 03:27 PM
Anyone ever try diesel test pro cycle from Get Diesel? I've ran a cycle of diesel test hardcore in the past with good results, just wondering how this new "blend" ranks. How would you rate it against other test boosters? Looking to do a cycle myself, if enough of the reviews are decent. Still doing research on this product, not a lot of reviews on this board. What was your dosing protocol while on cycle?

What was the reason why Chuck Diesel doesn't frequent this board at all now? He used to be on every once in a while, did he have a falling out with bb.com? I see that bb.com only carries a few of his products now, I have used some of his products in the past with great results. (nos ether, diesel test 2010-that was great!!!!)

Thanks, will rep for help.

I would love to try DT but every site has it listed as Out of Stock and/or Discontinued....

bosco_
08-29-2010, 04:31 PM
I was impressed with MP Battle Fuel

Ninzon
08-30-2010, 06:54 AM
sustanon 250 because it blends 4 in one. Better than most on here, but Ive never tried it. Ive heard of people gaining 25 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Prob BS from the company rep but still got my curiosity. Might add it onto my next bb.com order, along with no-xplode, of course.

Umm... Just so you know, Sustanon 250 is an anabolic steroid. And no, it's not "BS from the company rep" but a lot of that weight will be fat and water.

UNCnate
08-31-2010, 09:27 AM
TestoFx or TestoPro.


Best ones ive used are Testopro and Stoked. Stacked together the only way that gets better is adding HGHpro and Glycbol. It doesnt get much better then that for me.


I have to agree, I just ran TestoPro after a lot of test boosters in a row and it continued to bring me strength gains and positive body comp changes. Though I have not ran stoked, it is surely an excellent addition just like GHGH said.


TestoPro + T-911 = awesome

Love the TestoPRO comments!

QuarterbackSack
09-07-2010, 08:30 PM
Free Test & HGHup stacked together is a potent combination. The Applied website has lab results for both of these products. Pretty amazing stuff!

Other nominations would be Supertest by Beast, Thrust by Magnum, (old formulation) some of you may scoff at this one but HumanoVar by GEN

Tial
09-12-2010, 02:45 AM
If i wanted to take thrust would i need to take anything else to counter it? Is it safe just to take thrust without anything else?

Is it possible to use a fat burner supp with thrust or does it cancel each other out some how?

I've haven't worked solid for about 2 months because i was out of the country and i feel like a dirt bag and ready to hit the gym. I want to loose some fat/weight but still continue to gain strength and mass.


thank you.

stinson1023
09-14-2010, 01:12 PM
when you stack two different test boosters (for example active extreme and novadex xt) would you take one every other day or take one bottle and finish it then start the next right after?

SwolenONE
09-14-2010, 01:15 PM
I will guarantee arachadonic acid will yield more drastic increases in lean muscle mass and strength than ANY natural test booster, it also stacks amazingly with test boosters and androgens due to its affinity to increase androgen receptor sensitivity. Hence, I recommend it be stacked with Shawn Well's newest formulation, Test Factor, for maximum results (10+ lbs on a cycle is quite typical).

robbiek426
09-14-2010, 11:05 PM
If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

Underground Labs:
12 weeks of test cypionate
STACK WITH
6 weeks of Trenbolone A.................Hormones are natural right?????? LOL SORRY!

szendreivail
09-24-2010, 12:11 AM
novedex xt...if you have the money stack with activate xtreme....nastyyy stack youll feel like a silverback

ArmySloth
09-25-2010, 05:28 PM
I'm plugging another Muscle Pharm product, I never took a test booster EVER and I figured I slams some cash and give battle Fuel shot, and I have been seeing some great gains overall my Quads have increased 2 inches in 3 weeks I have been taking it. Everything is leveling out.

gilbertmoreno
09-28-2010, 07:25 PM
im currently using arimidex from bpi and like most test boosters you never really know if its doing anything at all but what it did do is give me hard on's 24/7!lol i can honostly say that i'll continue to use it mainly for the sexual enhancing capabilities it has! any muscle gained will be appreciated too!

badidea
09-29-2010, 10:20 AM
what happened to activate extreme? went to order another round and it's not listed. took recomendations from board and tried ax and bioforge. only did four weeks. worked, but really began to feel it middle/end of third week. would definately do eight weeks next time.

RMA08
09-29-2010, 02:04 PM
gilbertmoreno,Do you think BPI Arimedex lowers estrogen?It seems from what you said that it might increase testerone.

Ryan1992
09-29-2010, 02:31 PM
Thought about trying Novedex with MRI Black Powder, anabolic halo, and mass gainer....good idea?

fightclub2012
09-29-2010, 03:44 PM
Activate Xtreme, stacked with Triazole or Novedex XT.

gilbertmoreno
09-29-2010, 09:08 PM
rmao8, it sure as hell raised my test level and the constant erections is prove of that, it seemed like i was ready to have sex 24/7 but it tapered off the last week (8th week) kind of similar to what would happen durring a test cycle. i'm currently off it and will start another 8 week cycle next week. i did notice an extra pump and also had more stamina/strenth but the biggest surprise i got was the intensive sex! try it its some good ****!

RMA08
09-30-2010, 05:53 AM
Thanks alot,Do you think it could reduce estrogen?

gilbertmoreno
09-30-2010, 10:57 AM
not sure but its the only test booster that works for me and ive tried many before. theres just something about the sudden urge to have sex all the time and the over all postive well being/intense workouts you get from this product that tells you your on to something

RMA08
09-30-2010, 11:10 AM
Any negative side effects?Lethargy?

gilbertmoreno
10-02-2010, 11:05 AM
i didnt notice any side effects of any kind.seems pretty safe.

michaelarmenta
10-02-2010, 04:12 PM
Bulbine Natalensis
http://i52.tinypic.com/2v80cc5.jpg
coming in 2 weeks

phytoserms-347 This compound is for people who want a 347% boost in natural test levels. It can be used for pct to help get you back or it can be used as a stand alone.

shmitchell
10-15-2010, 10:02 AM
ive only takin 2 test boosters one gave me acne and i didnt really anything with the other product.

whats a good test booster?

GAMEOVER-
10-19-2010, 10:04 AM
I still like Applied Nut's Drive. Simple and works.

Train2Failure
10-20-2010, 03:02 AM
Any opinions on T-Bomb? Heard some great things about it. Same with Animal Stak.

Also, just from ingredient wise, I like the sound of SciFit GHT, or SciFit ES-3 stack w/ 3-Test?

Aside from opinions, should I be taking a test booster if I am 18? I know many people say no, you don't need it, but the question is, will it do something significant? and even if it does something minor, is it worth the trouble, money, etc? Will it affect my health/test production in the future?

Cheers

bullmuscle
10-24-2010, 08:20 AM
I was about to buy Novedex XT and then heard it got recalled October 4th. Anyone know why?

http://www.musclesprod.com/news/gaspari-nutrition-nutrition-issues-a-voluntary-nationwide-recall-of-novedex-xt/

blynch923
10-24-2010, 09:03 AM
Ok guys I need help with deciding what I should get as my first testosterone booster. My friend takes USP Labs Prime and his brother takes Pink Magic also made by USP Labs. But I have no idea what to get. I saw that T-BOMB II by MHP is a testosterone booster. But I really have NO knowledge in this area so any help is appreciated. An tips on choosing a good booster? Thanks guys.

drmcstford
10-24-2010, 04:32 PM
Anyone on Pink Magic? My brothers on it and hes seen great results, I start my cycle tomorrow Super Stocked!

Foregdun
10-25-2010, 06:50 AM
I heard a lot of them just give you annoying boners.

Futurejaycutler
10-29-2010, 09:34 AM
I've tried Bioforge and noticed 0 effects. Nothing.

THEHUGE
10-29-2010, 12:11 PM
I've tried Bioforge and noticed 0 effects. Nothing.

Oh hai troll.

PN_1989
10-29-2010, 01:34 PM
Bioforge + Ebol stack is great!

retrohead
10-31-2010, 03:46 AM
Are Testosterone boosters essential for building mass/strengh? Do any of the Controlled Lab's products have them?

8nd
11-02-2010, 04:05 AM
Any legitime Bulbine Natalensis products coming out soon?

jkarim
11-02-2010, 05:19 AM
animal test

joeyp0805
11-02-2010, 05:03 PM
I like INFINITELABS TEST booster for a few reason, here are some; It tests clean for any sport, and is produced in an FDA approved lab. read below and see for your self,, I highly recommend this for the great results and the safety reasons.

www.infinitelabs.com

Cyclo Bolan NT™ is the most advanced 17-beta-hydroxy-4-androstene-3-one support complex ever developed. Its cutting edge formula is designed to help attack body fat and create dramatic gains in both strength and size.
Experience DRAMATIC STRENGTH INCREASES, EXTREME MUSCLE GROWTH and GREATER MUSCLE HARDNESS with Cyclo Bolan NT™.*




Cyclo Bolan NT™ is scientifically-formulated to support:
• Testosterone Optimization*
• Advanced Endocrine Manipulation*
• Decreased Estrogen and DHT Conversion*

joeyp0805
11-02-2010, 05:13 PM
I like INFINITELABS TEST booster for a few reason, here are some; It tests clean for any sport, and is produced in an FDA approved lab. read below and see for your self,, I highly recommend this for the great results and the safety reasons.

www.infinitelabs.com

Cyclo Bolan NT™ is the most advanced 17-beta-hydroxy-4-androstene-3-one support complex ever developed. Its cutting edge formula is designed to help attack body fat and create dramatic gains in both strength and size.
Experience DRAMATIC STRENGTH INCREASES, EXTREME MUSCLE GROWTH and GREATER MUSCLE HARDNESS with Cyclo Bolan NT™.*




Cyclo Bolan NT™ is scientifically-formulated to support:
• Testosterone Optimization*
• Advanced Endocrine Manipulation*
• Decreased Estrogen and DHT Conversion*

if you go to infinitelabs face book they are running a contest, enter the contest and be eligible to win supplements products, just think, you can wiN a lot of cyclo bolan NT,,

Sldge
11-02-2010, 05:15 PM
Activate Xtreme, stacked with Triazole or Novedex XT.
Best combo tested so far.

BoWeDuPdiver
11-06-2010, 02:35 AM
[QUOTE=bullmuscle;566454801]I was about to buy Novedex XT and then heard it got recalled October 4th. Anyone know why?


Did you read that article you posted?

jesbad
11-06-2010, 06:55 AM
Any negative side effects?Lethargy?

Good question, has anyone experienced any side effects from using these boosters?

michaelopinion
11-07-2010, 04:09 PM
AI sports testopro. one of the better test boosters i've tried. gonna use it in my PCT! has testofen/ divanil and i3c for estrogen modulation. check it out! i've also got a log!

sandobal
11-08-2010, 10:51 PM
whats the side effects after getting off test boosters with proper post cycle therapy?

kane1983
11-09-2010, 06:23 AM
I've heard "Pink Magic" works really well ... Probably the next Supplement I will try ...

mccoy19
11-09-2010, 06:29 AM
Bulbine Natalensis
http://i52.tinypic.com/2v80cc5.jpghttps://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif
coming in 2 weeks

phytoserms-347 This compound is for people who want a 347% boost in natural test levels. It can be used for pct to help get you back or it can be used as a stand alone.

347%??? That's a pretty ridiculous claim wouldn't you say?

drudixon
11-09-2010, 06:33 AM
If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

Animal Stak is pretty good. I hate all the pills, but the attitude and increased strength are fantastic.

BoWeDuPdiver
11-14-2010, 03:28 PM
I took muscle pharm battle fuel for 3 days, nothing else in diet changed and heres what happened.

After 2 days I got diarhea, and at the end of the third day I got very severe sharp stomach pains and a strong headache came on. I stopped taking it, made sure I was hydrated drinking 1.5 gallons per day. I have had a headache for 2 days and its just starting to subcide. I still dont feel right and havnt been able to workout in 3 days. Just figured I would let you guys know to be careful with this one. I hope it has not caused long term damage, as I still dont feel good, and am talking to my lawyer and doctor about a lawsuit.

Be careful guys!!

Champ54
11-14-2010, 03:48 PM
well my test levels are through the roof cause of my age but from other peoples success im going to have to go with t bomb 11

madskilzdirkis
11-17-2010, 01:05 PM
the original mass fx and hyperdrol stack

td1
11-19-2010, 02:35 AM
i worked for a major vitamin/suppliment supply chain for several years recently. i had access to almost every popular brand of suppliment on the market.....got lots of free hand me outs from reps.....bought and tried alot of test supps too.....when i was working in the industry (suppliment) we blasted through novadex, sold a ton of it.....finally i tried it....all it did for me was dry my joints out completely.....actually ****ed me up for about three months, could barely walk (and i was on my feet 9hours a day).....ended up taking other joint supps to combat my knee joint problems as a result of novadex.....ultimately i found that using it was worse than not taking anything as my joints were so thrashed that i could not workout!!!! i had to stop lifting till the **** left my body, which took about 1.5 months.....i would NEVER use it again, and would NEVER recommend the product (and i never did while i was selling supps).

i have used almost all mgfs combinations of trib products, so seem to work better than others for me....i do believe that trib products work, even if a placebo effect is in order....its better than having my body THRASHED by a product. ugh. :(

right now im finishing up some scifit trib products and are going to universal nutrition a try next.

i really like healthy n fit products.....they are a no bull****, no flash outfit. just straight up high quality, old school supps.

enjoy!

terry

IronEagle1377
11-19-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm taking T-Bomb II and I love it! The only thing I am unsure of is how long to run it for, because it doesn't mention anything about it, lol.

I asked them about this and the replay I got was 2 months on 1 month off. I used it for the 2 months on and had lab work done. My Test went from 234 to 294.

makaya325
11-23-2010, 08:37 PM
Which supplement works the best without side effects?

GoldenGains
11-23-2010, 10:49 PM
squats + zma

IRONsMate
11-29-2010, 12:49 PM
i've tried testo grow or whatever from UN didnt do ****! but i would realy agree with goldengains ZMA GUYS! and squats..

bookerbrother
11-29-2010, 06:23 PM
It gets you pumped, jacked, and horny all at the same time.

TexasBlues78
11-30-2010, 09:35 PM
It gets you pumped, jacked, and horny all at the same time.

Are you talking about Drive by Applied Nutriceuticals?

apilot
12-11-2010, 12:32 PM
Activate Xtreme, stacked with Triazole or Novedex XT.


I was about to buy Novedex XT and then heard it got recalled October 4th. Anyone know why?

http://www.musclesprod.com/news/gaspari-nutrition-nutrition-issues-a-voluntary-nationwide-recall-of-novedex-xt/


Best combo tested so far.

I've stacked Activate Xtreme and Novedex XT with great results. This recall message states "Consumers who have Novedex XT in their possession should stop using it immediately." and " Potential adverse events associated with the use of anti-aromatases could include the following: decreased rate of bone maturation and growth, decreased sperm production, infertility, aggressive behavior, adrenal insufficiency, kidney failure, and liver dysfunction." ....I get full physicals ever year and I've had no issues. Also has the FDA proved this? Anyway, I've got 16 bottles, which expire late 2013. What would you do?

Disciple767
12-13-2010, 11:53 AM
I've heard "Pink Magic" works really well ... Probably the next Supplement I will try ...

I gained 14lbs in 6 weeks on Pink Magic ... the only one I have tried so far and it works very well as evidenced by my weight gain

Latinnmoreno
12-14-2010, 04:16 PM
I gained 14lbs in 6 weeks on Pink Magic ... the only one I have tried so far and it works very well as evidenced by my weight gain

what do you guys recommend or suggest I should do now or take...

patryk90x
12-15-2010, 09:17 PM
Honestly best test booster I ever used was D-Bol but it's illegal so ya. $120 for 120 pills 10-20 lbs of muscle in a cycle :)

JT0331
12-16-2010, 10:25 AM
Was thinking about taking some beast supertest. Is it any good and would it be ok to stack with Jack 3d? As far as nitric oxide levels?

kensfreetime
12-16-2010, 10:44 AM
pink magic!

Latinnmoreno
12-16-2010, 11:21 AM
pink magic!

Not Pink Magic.

Spartan_79
12-18-2010, 09:41 AM
Ive used thermolife ebol and had good gains with it. Ive also tried LG T911 and had very nice strength gains and noticeable gains in mass.

AshyKnuckles
12-21-2010, 05:43 AM
I'm suprised there are many anti tribulus comments here. I would say from personal experience tribulus either does or doesn't work for people. I for one have noticed a difference in my training (amateur boxer) and my recovery has definitely improved since taking tribulus which I cycle. I'm pretty new to supplements in general but I have definitely noticed a difference while on tribulus. My cousin on the other hand has seen nothing on it and yet another cousin has seen results as well. Placebo effect perhaps? Either way, it seems to work great for me so I think one shoul just give it a try and not, not, take it just because of negative comments against it. What works for some may not work for others. Isn't this just common sense? Everybody's different.

ThexFallen
12-22-2010, 12:07 AM
Just got done with testing out 3 boosters over 3 out of the 5 months I spent lifting and bulking

Animal Stack

Pink Majic

Cellucor P6

I stacked R3 with P6 and I honestly thing I gained so much cause of the R3. The P6 seemed weak. I didn't feel the same affects as with the other two. Worst 120 bucks I've ever spent. Most likely not getting it again.

Pink Majic: Not bad, but it didn't live up to it's hype for me. I stopped taking it cause it was a pain in the ass to keep up with. I ended up throwing it away after 2 weeks.

The first booster I tried: Animal Stack: It's not rated as strong as the others, but it worked out the best for me.

You only have to take it once a day.

The feeling I got from the STACK prior to the workout was better than the other two. I'm not sure why, but its most likely the blend that they use. You take 2 pills of the others, but the STACK's serving is several pills. I didn't get into detail with them, but damn, they worked!

I'll most likely stick with them for the diration of my body building career.

My new stack upon my return to bulking up:

Animal Pak( best vitamins I've ever tried)
Animal Stak(read the above paragraph)
Cellucor R3(heals you wicked fast. A day+ earlier)
and a really good pumping agent. Maybe Jacked. Not sure yet.

I have time to think about it.

Amra
12-24-2010, 08:49 AM
It looks like t-911 is being recalled.

I tried two different stores that had them on their web page, and they contacted/refunded me saying the stuff has been pulled.

I used it for two cycles and loved the effects. Definitely a supp that you can feel working with strength gains and increased sex drive.

Going to try Novadex XT for my next run.


/old news?

John1985
01-02-2011, 06:33 PM
which do you guys this is better? based of what you have used?

Stoked OR ZMA?

mdouglasxy
01-05-2011, 11:08 AM
Zeus is the best Test Boostah!

Mickfootie
01-10-2011, 09:02 AM
ZEUS and Tauro-Test are the best i have used to date.

jquintinjr
01-10-2011, 09:04 AM
ZEUS and Tauro-Test are the best i have used to date.

while we are both AD reps, i still gota say (honestly) that tauro has helped me recomp soooo much!
im almost 3 weeks in and im definitely leaning out while maintaining weight mostly...only dropped 1lb in 3weeks but abs/obliques have become far more visible. strength has also been maintained while in a moderate deficit. ~300kcal.

i have never tried zues before but chalk up another vote for tauro.

Gym God
01-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Zeus is the best Test Boostah!



ZEUS and Tauro-Test are the best i have used to date.

Thanks guys!

mrmyo1
01-10-2011, 12:55 PM
What do you guys think of advanced muscle sciences product?

YLC
01-12-2011, 07:12 PM
I used TestFreak for 8 weaks and had great results. My lifts and body composition increased at a faster paste while on it. It's the first testbooster I've tried yet so I can't compare.

jbd876
01-14-2011, 10:45 AM
I used P6 a few years back and noticed a big difference in how I felt; a lot more energy and was lifting more. I did find it made me feel hot a lot so and i sweat a lot more on it (not sure if this is normal).

A guy at GNC recently recomended Androbolix by BioRhythm.

Has anyone used either of these? results?

Also is there any issue of using creatine at the same time as test boost?

kevintk71744
01-17-2011, 11:45 AM
i have been taking vitrix for some time and it helps in alot of ways. just started taking the t-up black it seems to be doing the job but not really sure since its my first month on it. i think i like the vitrix more.

brooks937
01-22-2011, 06:08 AM
Test boosters over the counter suck. Stop listening to pathetic reps try to push their product.

Vitamins
Bcaa
maybe some Energy for Pre-workout
Protien

Are the only valuable "over the counter" products. Stop blowing money on garbage kids.

Inama
01-22-2011, 06:09 AM
Seriously? They work different for everyone. I am sorry, but not everyone reacts to test boosters the same. They can be helpful for men in our 30s and 40s.


Test boosters over the counter suck. Stop listening to pathetic reps try to push their product.

Vitamins
Bcaa
maybe some Energy for Pre-workout
Protien

Are the only valuable "over the counter" products. Stop blowing money on garbage kids.

brooks937
01-22-2011, 06:48 AM
Seriously? They work different for everyone. I am sorry, but not everyone reacts to test boosters the same. They can be helpful for men in our 30s and 40s.



I am 30, natural test boosters dont work its a fact. Its the same thing when people try to say you can buy over the counter "penis pills" for whatever reason. THEY DONT WORK. You have to use Viagra aka prescription if you want real results. Same with "test boosters" you need roids its not rocket science, its just ignorance to facts. Im not saying go get roids, Im just stating facts... They are businesses and they want money from idiots... Think how many people buy useless products day in and day? dont get me wrong I was one of these people when I first started working out years ago. You name it, Ive probably tried it. Test boosters dont work. Sorry to "pop that imaginary bubble" but youre **** out of luck. Dont believe me? Ask your family doctor. 9/10 of them will tell you the same.

Rich3000
01-26-2011, 07:34 AM
I took muscle pharm battle fuel for 3 days, nothing else in diet changed and heres what happened.

After 2 days I got diarhea, and at the end of the third day I got very severe sharp stomach pains and a strong headache came on. I stopped taking it, made sure I was hydrated drinking 1.5 gallons per day. I have had a headache for 2 days and its just starting to subcide. I still dont feel right and havnt been able to workout in 3 days. Just figured I would let you guys know to be careful with this one. I hope it has not caused long term damage, as I still dont feel good, and am talking to my lawyer and doctor about a lawsuit.

Be careful guys!!
That sucks for sure. But a lawsuit over some diarrhea and stomach pains? Sounds like a waste of money. Your money.

AlwaysSwoleUp
01-26-2011, 12:36 PM
Tribulus - It matters where it comes from and when it was harvested.
Where - Only tribulus that grows in Bulgaria is worth a flip; they have the specific combinations of climate and environment that produces the plant that gives desired effect.

Only look for products with a label that states the active ingredient is standardized - look for 20% or greater levels of protodioscin.

When - peak season...not really sure when that is

Here is a lab test showing 4 popular brands that have no active ingredient:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/lab.pdf
The test also shows other brands that do contain protodioscin

Waagenaar
01-26-2011, 11:19 PM
Best testosterone boosting supplement? Simple, just inject it.

Gym God
01-27-2011, 12:23 PM
Just a little animation fun! Enjoy!


kqykTOadL9g

iabs
01-27-2011, 12:31 PM
In for later, I'm looking for a natural test booster, this will be my first test booster ever.

mikelebp1
01-27-2011, 07:19 PM
If you had to pick just ONE testosterone boosting product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take testosterone boosting products, if you should take testosterone boosting products, or why some testosterone boosting products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite testosterone boosting product and give your detailed reason.)

Supremacy
Testabol and Freetest are pretty good
Stoked is good as well.

John1985
02-04-2011, 07:14 PM
i was at Premier fitness today and I was speaking with a personal trainer regarding what supplements he takes and said that he takes "D-Bowls" anybody know what this is?

gungaden
02-05-2011, 06:48 AM
I'd have to go with a product that has clinical research trials showing that it works and not just some herbal cocktail that the good bro's recommend.

works every time ! good stuff too bad its banned now...

mootonandy
02-05-2011, 07:07 AM
Androbolix from Biorythm definately worked for me. Sent my libido sky high and made my voice deeper.

zrage
02-05-2011, 07:19 PM
lol why do reps even bother posting in this thread? they only give biased answers that might not even be true just cuz its their company, like really? save it plz

em-dubya
02-05-2011, 08:01 PM
DAA is the best I've tried in awhile~~especially for $15-20 for some cheap bulk

or_yourlivingtodie
02-07-2011, 10:35 PM
Its the same thing when people try to say you can buy over the counter "penis pills" for whatever reason. THEY DONT WORK. You have to use Viagra aka prescription if you want real results.

too bad bulbine beat out viagra in a recent ED study............and in the same doses that were shown to increase test levels



sorry to burst your bubble

mikeonopiates
02-08-2011, 01:02 AM
battle fuel has the best ingredients profile out there imo.

chrisf695
02-08-2011, 09:41 PM
OK.... I'm gonna be 30 soon, and have been taking Vitrix for 1 month and have noticed big changes in recovery, energy in the gym, pumps, and yes libido.

I totally agree that these booster works different for everybody, i've taken p6 before and that didnt nothing for me. Kinda have to try a couple out to see which one has the best effect on you.

Hope this helps...

Laker33
02-09-2011, 01:05 PM
I agree with the post above

Fvckthepolice
02-12-2011, 04:42 PM
works every time ! good stuff too bad its banned now...

was not banned fda just pressured gaspari to stop making it

djm6464
02-13-2011, 04:40 PM
lol why do reps even bother posting in this thread? they only give biased answers that might not even be true just cuz its their company, like really? save it plz

x2, its like this everywhere

djm6464
02-13-2011, 04:42 PM
DAA is the best I've tried in awhile~~especially for $15-20 for some cheap bulk

same here, best t booster out there, i like pat arnold's version tf2, and i used primordials tcf-1 in my last torem pct and it was good too

hatefulONE
02-13-2011, 07:17 PM
Resveratrol and daa make an awesome t-booster and D swelling stack. Personally I've used sustain alpha and tcf-1 by primordial performance, I tried a few servings of testforce, tasted terrible but I felt about the same as with the tcf-1. Testforce 2 seems legit as well, PA always puts out solid supplements.

thehulk12
02-13-2011, 08:15 PM
what you guys think of pink magic? sure lots of people said bad and good things, just trying to get a fresh taste of opinion.. also, was told by a dude at GNC about Arimatest? whats the scoop on that haven't seen really anyone talk about it.. is that for good reason? lol

djm6464
02-14-2011, 06:01 AM
what you guys think of pink magic? sure lots of people said bad and good things, just trying to get a fresh taste of opinion.. also, was told by a dude at GNC about Arimatest? whats the scoop on that haven't seen really anyone talk about it.. is that for good reason? lol

i wouldnt touch either, both seem sketch....usp has been hit n miss, but if it says pink on the box....someone would have to send itto me for free.....i think in general, t boosters are a waste

kingbrad
02-14-2011, 09:54 PM
STOKED was good.
I was once told by a GNC employee that test boosters were only for older people and guys my age would ruin our bodies if we got into taking stuff like that. is there any truth in that.

GymWarrior1292
02-15-2011, 06:28 AM
No way dude your 29. You could def take a natural test they pro sell in that store.

What do you want from it though?

Your foundation is most important. That test couldhelp you if you are already on a solid program of great eating habits, hard training program, and basic supplements (ie. Vitamin, high omega 3s, antioxident, protein, aminos).

When your on it your body becomes extremely responsive. You wanna make sure you get your $ worth.

Focus solid on program.


Say you are...couple of good ones I've used. (keep in mind I have only used natural ones. Never tried a real hardcore one)

stak 1
day time
prime
pink magic

night
powerfull

stak 2

arimatest/hexagen

stak 3. On it now and it's good.

Day
halodrol

night
reforge

now when I useing it, I'm taking max dosage and taking a high EPA/Dha with each dosage in day and 3gram CLA w/night. It's supposed help facilitate the test.

I hope I helped. Ha.

flexworth
02-15-2011, 11:51 AM
Well (IMO) it was Novedex from Gaspari. I took it last summer not expecting much but noticed soid results, harder, more defined. I wrote a review on this somewhere within bb.com.

The government keeps taking stuff away from us! But it's ok to drink all the alcohol you want which is responsible for diseases, death, unwanted pregnancies, drunk driving accidents, domestic voilence...oh, and we can kill ourselves smoking too. Sorry, that's another rant...didn't mean to get on that soap box!

Anyway, another good OTC test booster is Animal Test by Universal.

kingbrad
02-16-2011, 01:05 AM
No way dude your 29. You could def take a natural test they pro sell in that store.

What do you want from it though?

Your foundation is most important. That test couldhelp you if you are already on a solid program of great eating habits, hard training program, and basic supplements (ie. Vitamin, high omega 3s, antioxident, protein, aminos).

When your on it your body becomes extremely responsive. You wanna make sure you get your $ worth.

Focus solid on program.


Say you are...couple of good ones I've used. (keep in mind I have only used natural ones. Never tried a real hardcore one)

stak 1
day time
prime
pink magic

night
powerfull

stak 2

arimatest/hexagen

stak 3. On it now and it's good.

Day
halodrol

night
reforge

now when I useing it, I'm taking max dosage and taking a high EPA/Dha with each dosage in day and 3gram CLA w/night. It's supposed help facilitate the test.

I hope I helped. Ha.

hey thanks my dude. i have prime right now and its working pretty good. thanks for the advice.

slimguy18
02-17-2011, 09:45 PM
Is this even good for you???

GymWarrior1292
02-19-2011, 09:04 AM
Is this even good for you???

Go Big or Go Home!!!!

These are natural test boosters, not magic pills..You sometimes have to take more than 30% of the suggested dosage...Sometimes you have to take the max dosage (Oh No) and even more....sometimes stack with other products(Oh No!!!)

As FlexWorth Mentioned, the FDA pulls anything close to good off the market..

As soon as some ball player or olympic athlete pops on a drug test..and blame something they bought at GNC....Big Brothers gotta react..

I compete in Drug tested bodybuilding show..And although my test levels are higher than normal men my age...They could never be confused with me being on GEAR..

And to answer your question "Is it safe"..yes..I get checked by a reputable doctor that specializes in athletes and supplementaion...

I do not want to be Jay Cutler...I just like to look jackd and be healthy..


But thats me not you...your 19 and need to focus on your eating habits, basic supps, and HARDCORE training!!

ectobruh
02-19-2011, 02:48 PM
wait....this stuff exists? is it the same stuff as in energy drinks or what?

djm6464
02-19-2011, 03:03 PM
No way dude your 29. You could def take a natural test they pro sell in that store.

What do you want from it though?

Your foundation is most important. That test couldhelp you if you are already on a solid program of great eating habits, hard training program, and basic supplements (ie. Vitamin, high omega 3s, antioxident, protein, aminos).

When your on it your body becomes extremely responsive. You wanna make sure you get your $ worth.

Focus solid on program.


Say you are...couple of good ones I've used. (keep in mind I have only used natural ones. Never tried a real hardcore one)

stak 1
day time
prime
pink magic

night
powerfull

stak 2

arimatest/hexagen

stak 3. On it now and it's good.

Day
halodrol

night
reforge

now when I useing it, I'm taking max dosage and taking a high EPA/Dha with each dosage in day and 3gram CLA w/night. It's supposed help facilitate the test.

I hope I helped. Ha.

wtf....HALODROL is a designer steroid my friend, so sorry to burst your natural bubble

btw, what is your 'max dosage' on the halo....damn horrible advice

GymWarrior1292
02-20-2011, 08:33 AM
I'm not talking about some "designer steroid" halodrol. I'm talking about gaspari's 5th version of halodrol that is natural and safe to take. They sell it at GNC and this web site.

You got good genetics bro. Don't let your friends flood your head with nonsense. You have bodybuilding questions go to experts not friends.

In my exp friends that know a little about supps like to pretend to there friends that they are experts...so they look cool.

Don't let your friends hold you back

and that goes for everyone. Read through this forums threads.....everyone has a friend that says superpump is better than Jack or on is better than vpx...

Pre workouts give you a pump and some energy. That's it. They don't build muscle or make you bigger...you will build up a tolerence to any of them andhave to switch...

Moral of the story....friends are idiots when it comes to helping with bodybuilding.

kingbrad
02-21-2011, 01:03 AM
yeah everyone that dont take supps say that im not natural cause i take jack or something like that.

G.W. Hayduke
02-21-2011, 07:08 AM
TestForce 2

FubarFit
02-27-2011, 11:36 AM
I need help I know Driven sports is a solid choice here and its all natural but Ive heard good things about M1D and T911 could somebody shed some light on lg science and whether or not I should try their stack and maybe pct with driven sports. Im 21 years old.

runnsmith
02-28-2011, 10:04 AM
the strip club drinking on a work night.

GoodGrip
03-03-2011, 10:54 PM
Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 and Phyto Testosterone are 2 worthy mentions.

G.W. Hayduke
03-04-2011, 09:34 AM
Triazole

Test Factor

Yaaaaaabuddy
03-07-2011, 04:01 PM
I've tried 5 or 6 other test boosters before including Activate Xtreme, T-Bol, and Bioforge, but Diesel Test Hardcore has worked the best for me. Better mood, focus, and aggression that's noticeable throughout the day.

ZeChemist
03-12-2011, 07:17 AM
Just started using test boosters...im on my first cycle of Cellucor P6 extreme...working really well so far...ill report back after done with one cycle...i also have Nutrex T-Up black for after my p6 cycle

linuxshellcode
03-12-2011, 11:14 PM
Goliath Labs Tribuloid (Zinc 20mg, tribulus 40% sap, horny goat weed 20:1, avena sativa 10:1, longjack 100:1, DIM).

Canborn
03-12-2011, 11:26 PM
anyone used A-HD stacked with A-50 from BPI Sports ? are these products any good.

luckducky433
03-13-2011, 07:58 AM
Honestly best test booster I ever used was D-Bol but it's illegal so ya. $120 for 120 pills 10-20 lbs of muscle in a cycle :)

With you...this was ages ago and I bought it legal, but geez did I put on muscle during that