JK's Muay Thai Log

[Jaw-Knee]

So I'm currently chillin' in my room in Pattaya, Thailand--right down the street from Scorpion Muay Thai.

Got into Thailand last Tuesday, spent a few days in Bangkok resting up and then came to Pattaya by minibus.

Today was the first time I've trained MT in over two months. Lol, I'm sleeping well tonight.

TRAINING

-20+ minutes warmup (shadow and light bag work on my own waiting for training to start)

-2 rounds shadow with Kru Wit

-5 rounds pads with Kru Wit (3 MT, 1 boxing)

-3 rounds bag

Added after MT workout:

-pull-ups (x10, x8) (yes crappy, lol)

-situps on decline bench (2x40)

-pushups (2x25)

Increasing reps on everything tomorrow.


I'm outta shape and my technique is sloppy. I'm pissed at myself for slipping this far.

Hitting the morning session as well tomorrow; heading out to find a gym with weights tomorrow afternoon so I can incorporate that into my training as well.

[GoutDeMiel]

subbed :)

[bitty_bish]

subbed :)

Oh hai....x2

[GoutDeMiel]

Increasing reps on everything tomorrow.


ehh I'd say after all your bag work do what you can. Trying to hit specific numbers on your pullups, situps and pushups after working so hard earlier will only discourage you.

Do what you can and don't stop until your muscles fail. You can't have a PR-busting day everyday. I also think you should place emphasis on your Muay Thai and not the supplemental stuff at the end - you could argue that they're decent gauges of "fitness", but you're not competing in a pullup contest, ya know?

Looks like you better find that GNC asap :p

FYI: http://www.4mcd.usmc.mil/AOP/OSOHyattsville/Armstrong%20Pullup%20Program.htm
^ those will get your numbers up really quickly

[lbeezle]

I knew someone that took a Muay Thai vacation one time. What's something like this cost and how long are you going to be there?

[Jaw-Knee]

ehh I'd say after all your bag work do what you can. Trying to hit specific numbers on your pullups, situps and pushups after working so hard earlier will only discourage you.

Do what you can and don't stop until your muscles fail. You can't have a PR-busting day everyday. I also think you should place emphasis on your Muay Thai and not the supplemental stuff at the end - you could argue that they're decent gauges of "fitness", but you're not competing in a pullup contest, ya know?

Looks like you better find that GNC asap :p

FYI: http://www.4mcd.usmc.mil/AOP/OSOHyattsville/Armstrong%20Pullup%20Program.htm
^ those will get your numbers up really quickly

Just out of touch with hitting things. Gotta get used to it again and then I'll be fine.

Until then, I'm gonna keep berating myself. :D


I knew someone that took a Muay Thai vacation one time. What's something like this cost and how long are you going to be there?

http://scorpion.atk-web.net/

Prices are all there.

[TheStender]

I hate you.

Just kidding. I want to go to Thailand but I don't think I'll ever be able to. Maybe next spring.

[Madevilz]

How long are you staying at Scorpion?

Im landing in Thailand on July 18th, and arriving in Pattaya on the 19th.
Already talked with Rosalie, and pretty much ready to get this thing going... now the waiting game lol

Scorpion seems to have a lot of farang, are there any thai fighters training there?

[Jaw-Knee]

How long are you staying at Scorpion?

Im landing in Thailand on July 18th, and arriving in Pattaya on the 19th.
Already talked with Rosalie, and pretty much ready to get this thing going... now the waiting game lol

Scorpion seems to have a lot of farang, are there any thai fighters training there?

I'm here until August 15th.

Haven't seen any Thais other than the trainers at the camp, but today's only my second day training.

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JUNE 9TH: MORNING SESSION

-10 minutes jump rope

-stretch

-3 rounds shadow

-3 rounds MT

-2 rounds boxing

Supplemental:

-Pull-ups: x12, x8

-Crunches on decline bench: 2x40

-Pushups: 2x35


Trained MT with Kru Phot. Dude kept ripping on my kicks. I was doing the same damn thing I did yesterday and he would not stop bitching at me about form; I still have no idea what he wants me to do.

Gotta love them good ol' Thai motivational tactics. :D

Elbows are still pretty crisp. Stoked about that. Knees are looking okay.

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JUNE 9TH: AFTERNOON SESSION

-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-Pads

--5 rounds MT

--2 rounds boxing

-3 rounds bag

-Supplemental:

--pull-ups: 8x2

--pushups: 35x2

--Thai situps*: x50, x40


Decent for second day back.





*Legs straight, pass vertical, crunch at top, exhale twice on crunch. Don't know what else to call them, so I'm calling them Thai situps.

[TheStender]

How were the kicks with the afternoon session vs. the morning session?

[GoutDeMiel]

you need supps ASAP haha

what's your diet like?

[Jaw-Knee]

How were the kicks with the afternoon session vs. the morning session?

I trained with Wit instead of with Phot, so there was a lot less nitpicking.

My kicks this morning were fine. Dude was just on my ass 'cause it's what they do.


you need supps ASAP haha

what's your diet like?

I eat what I can when I can, haha. :D

There's a restaurant up the road. I need to find out how to say "steamed" in Thai. I tried explaining steamed chicken, but it wasn't happening. Once I get that down things'll be a lot easier.

[GoutDeMiel]

I eat what I can when I can, haha. :D


like these?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2006937445_88e01ebdb8.jpg


:D

[PartyRaiser]

Awesome bro, I hope you're gonna have a good training camp for the next months. I'll be following your log. I'd love to go down there myself sometime.

[Jaw-Knee]

like these?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2006937445_88e01ebdb8.jpg


:D

Uh, YES.


Awesome bro, I hope you're gonna have a good training camp for the next months. I'll be following your log. I'd love to go down there myself sometime.

Thanks, dude. I appreciate it.

[Madevilz]

I'm here until August 15th.

Haven't seen any Thais other than the trainers at the camp, but today's only my second day training.

Cool man, maybe we'll see each other then.

Are you staying at the room the gym is offering? Or did you find some other place?

[Jaw-Knee]

Cool man, maybe we'll see each other then.

Are you staying at the room the gym is offering? Or did you find some other place?
Rosalie will give you the hook-up at a resort down the street from the gym (about a two-minute walk, if even) called Sugar Beat. "Apartment-style" rooms are 13,000 baht a month; bungalows are 15,000. Regular maid service included, room service... Good stuff. You're not gonna find a deal like this on rooms at other camps.

[Jaw-Knee]

Rosalie will give you the hook-up at a resort down the street from the gym (about a two-minute walk, if even) called Sugar Beat. "Apartment-style" rooms are 13,000 baht a month; bungalows are 15,000. Regular maid service included, room service... Good stuff. You're not gonna find a deal like this on rooms at other camps.
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH

Went in late for an extended session.


-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds bag

-Pads

--5 rounds MT

--3 rounds boxing

-Supplemental

--pull-ups: 10, 8, 6

--pushups: 40x2

--abs*: 50 crunches, 50 reverse crunches, 50 side crunches each side

-3 rounds clinching


*Abs felt wrecked today, so I didn't hit the decline bench.

Finally have a gym to go to--English dude from the gym recommended it. Hitting it up tomorrow. Wish I could've gone sooner.

1-2-left kick combo's giving me trouble. Can't get the distance right. Left kick itself is looking okay, though.

As far as hands--my hands suck, lol. Left hook's looking all right, though. Uppercuts need work. Gonna ask Phot tomorrow for more rounds on the focus mitts.

Feeling beat. Need to find some whey powder ASAP.

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JUNE 11TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-2 rounds bag

-3 rounds MT

-2 rounds boxing


Easy day today. I was beat, and Phot knew it. Said we'll pick it up again tomorrow.

Finally got to the gym. Downed one of these "WAKIE" energy drinks from 7-Eleven, sucked it up, and hammered my lats. Got a two-month membership.

They sell whey there. 7,000 ****ing baht (over $200) for a 4-kilo bag. Total bull****. Looks like I'm not buying any protein here.

Been down and out for most of the day after the gym. Still knackered. (yes wuss)

[GoutDeMiel]

they sell whey there. 7,000 ****ing baht (over $200) for a 4-kilo bag. Total bull****. Looks like i'm not buying any protein here.


;) :)
i got your back

[Ecnewyx]

Awesome that you're down there training, did you catch what was wrong with your kicking form?

[TheStender]

They sell whey there. 7,000 ****ing baht (over $200) for a 4-kilo bag. Total bull****. Looks like I'm not buying any protein here.

For that price the protein should do your workouts for you.

[Jaw-Knee]

;) :)
i got your back

Epic. :D ;)


Awesome that you're down there training, did you catch what was wrong with your kicking form?

An old trainer of mine used to tell me not to step out much because when you do that you give away what you're gonna do. Thing is, you don't generate as much power when you don't step out before you throw the kick. So it's down to that and turning the hip more.


For that price the protein should do your workouts for you.

Lol, seriously.

[Jaw-Knee]

FRIDAY, JUNE 12TH: MORNING SESSION

-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds bag

-Pads

--5 rounds MT

--2 rounds boxing

-Supplemental

--pull-ups: x10, x8

--pushups: 50x2

--20 bench situps, 50 Thai situps


Much more energy this morning; sleep FTW. Left kicks are looking and feeling a lot better today. Right elbow's slipping a little bit; problem lies in the footwork. Left elbow's looking good.

Time to eat.

[Jaw-Knee]

EVENING SESSION

-15 minutes bag

-10 minutes shadow

-technique: kicks

-Pads

--5 rounds MT

--2 rounds boxing


Sparring starts next week. A lot more clinching, too.

Goal for next week: minimum of 15 hours (not including weight training and cardio).

[Erinblue]

Cool log man. My Avatar was me at scorpion with mann holding pads. I remember wit didnt really correct me so much but he pushed me hard till I was assed out. That is a great gym, Cheap too. Thats cool as hell your there Im real jelous man, cant wait to go back. Do you plan to check out Sityodtong or Fairtex while your there? You gonna have a fight at thepprasit Stadium?


P.S. keep out of Boyz town!

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JUNE 15TH

Hit the weights in the morning; Monday's bench day and if I'm not fresh for it the whole thing goes to ****. I hadn't hit the bench in three weeks before today, either, which was added incentive to stay fresh.

Weights:

Bench: 5x5 @ 235

Incline bench: 5x5 @ 185 (shorter rest between sets than on bench)

Cable crossovers: 10x3 @ 80 a side

Close-grip bench: 10, 9, 7 @ 135 (lol, fail on 2nd and 3rd sets)

Pushdowns: 10x3 @ 160

Threw a few sets of wide-grip pull-ups in there in between a couple of the exercises for good measure.


Yammer on all you want to about the setup and how it's detrimental and all that jazz. It works for me, it's worked for me before, and no doubt it'll work for me in the future.


MT:

-10 minutes jump rope

-5 rounds MT

-3 rounds boxing

-3 rounds bag

-Supplemental Bag:

--200 knees

--100 front kicks

-Supplemental:

--pull-ups: 9x2

--pushups: 50, 45

--abs:

First set

...-50 crunches
...-50 reverse crunches
...-50 side crunches each side

Second set

...-50 bench situps


My technique sucked today, lol. Don't know what happened this evening, but my kicks were crap. Left hand's looking a lot sharper, though.

As my kicks were terrible today, I devoted my three rounds on bag to kicks. 10 kicks a side, then switch. Good stuff.

Started supplemental bag work today for endurance; gonna bump it up some tomorrow.

Hopefully my kicks are better in the morning, lulz.

[Jaw-Knee]

Cool log man. My Avatar was me at scorpion with mann holding pads. I remember wit didnt really correct me so much but he pushed me hard till I was assed out. That is a great gym, Cheap too. Thats cool as hell your there Im real jelous man, cant wait to go back. Do you plan to check out Sityodtong or Fairtex while your there? You gonna have a fight at thepprasit Stadium?


P.S. keep out of Boyz town!

Sweet deal, dude. It is a great gym.

Nah, no need to check out the bigger names. I'm happy at Scorpion; they're takin' care of me, lol. :D

Gotta get rid of this rust and sharpen up my technique before I can fight, but I will at some point.

[GoutDeMiel]

Bench: 5x5 @ 235

Incline bench: 5x5 @ 185 (shorter rest between sets than on bench)

Cable crossovers: 10x3 @ 80 a side

Close-grip bench: 10, 9, 7 @ 135 (lol, fail on 2nd and 3rd sets)

Pushdowns: 10x3 @ 160

Threw a few sets of wide-grip pull-ups in there in between a couple of the exercises for good measure.

-10 minutes jump rope

-5 rounds MT

-3 rounds boxing

-3 rounds bag

-Supplemental Bag:

--200 knees

--100 front kicks

-Supplemental:

--pull-ups: 9x2

--pushups: 50, 45

--abs:

First set

...-50 crunches
...-50 reverse crunches
...-50 side crunches each side

Second set

...-50 bench situps


Left hand's looking a lot sharper, though.


sweet


My technique sucked today, lol. Don't know what happened this evening, but my kicks were crap.

perhaps, but looks like a WIN day to me :)

[Jaw-Knee]

sweet



perhaps, but looks like a WIN day to me :)
Yeah, pretty win. :)

Those rounds of kicks on bag killed, lol. Supplemental bag work was good, too.

[GoutDeMiel]

Yeah, pretty win. :)

Those rounds of kicks on bag killed, lol. Supplemental bag work was good, too.

baby steps :)

rome wasn't built in a day. as long as you're moving forward - no matter how slow you think your progress is - you're on track.

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JUNE 16TH: MORNING SESSION

-2 rounds bag for warmup

-5 rounds MT

-3 rounds boxing


Dead tired this morning. Crap session. Will do better this afternoon.

[Jaw-Knee]

EVENING SESSION

-20 minutes warmup on bag

-7 rounds MT

-4 rounds bag

--3 rounds kicks

--1 round elbows

-Supplemental bag

--200 knees

--100 front kicks

-Technique: front kicks*

-2 rounds shadow

-Supplemental

--pull-ups: 10x2

--pushups: 50x2

--bench situps: 50x2


No boxing today; knuckles are torn up so I'm giving my hands a break. Killed it on elbows, which was sweet.

*Technique work 'cause my balance sucks. Gonna take me a while to get the movements down right.

[Madevilz]

7 rounds MT?

dayum :)

[Jaw-Knee]

7 rounds MT?

dayum :)
Lots of kicks, lots of elbows; no hands.

[GoutDeMiel]

7 rounds MT?

dayum :)

my thoughts exactly

[Erinblue]

Impressive JK, sounds like you endurance is really coming along 7rnds is alot not to mention all the other techniques. Bad ass.

Hey do they still have that big ass dog? The Great Dane. When I was there they had a bird too, All it said to me was F@ck you and told me to shut up. Damn bird!

Have you seen Rosalie on the pads? Those Dutch Thai boxers are killers.

[Jaw-Knee]

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 17TH

-5 minutes jump rope

-10 minutes shadow

-7 rounds MT on pads

-10 minutes shadow

-20-25 minutes of clinching

-Supplemental:

--pull-ups: 11, 10

--pushups: 50x2

--bench situps: 50x2


Sluggish-ass day. Pads tired me out more than they did yesterday. Clinching afterward was not fun.

Tomorrow will be better.

[TheStender]

How will you be doing your strength training? In before/after/or in between your classes? Or just do it on a day where you don't do a muay thai session?

[Jaw-Knee]

Impressive JK, sounds like you endurance is really coming along 7rnds is alot not to mention all the other techniques. Bad ass.

Hey do they still have that big ass dog? The Great Dane. When I was there they had a bird too, All it said to me was F@ck you and told me to shut up. Damn bird!

Have you seen Rosalie on the pads? Those Dutch Thai boxers are killers.

Yeah, the dog chills in the back. There was this little yappy-ass dog outside that went psycho one day and Rosalie's dog came out of hiding and started barking up a storm. I was like, "Oh ****, they've got a dog." Lol. :D

The bird just sits there and wolf whistles, lulz.

Only seen video clips, but holy crap--girl tears it up.

[Jaw-Knee]

How will you be doing your strength training? In before/after/or in between your classes? Or just do it on a day where you don't do a muay thai session?
Still trying to figure that part out, to be honest. I was supposed to go and hit back today; didn't happen. Headache, muscle aches, general fatigue... Not a good evening for lifting. Will hit it tomorrow and legs on Friday.

Monday's bench day. I wake up in the morning, make sure to eat plenty, and hit the weights fresh. If I don't, the workout gets thrown off and as a result the whole day gets thrown off. I always make up for "lost time" later on, anyway.

Plan is to hit my back on Wednesday afternoons between training sessions and legs in the evenings on Friday after training is done so I don't have to worry about going to training with messed up legs.

[GoutDeMiel]

they have a dog?!

[Jaw-Knee]

they have a dog?!
Yeah. I guess he just cruises in the back.

[Madevilz]

How's training in the hot weather?

I sweat like a pig training in COLD weather, gonna be hell for me :D

[Erinblue]

So other than the pad work are the trainers telling you what to do as far as how long to skip rope or how many pullups/crunches to do or how long to work on the bag? Im sure it is different for you as you have been there alot longer than I was, Do you just do your thing till it is time to jump in the ring for pad work or clinching? The reason I ask is wit had me skip rope with those god awful thick jump ropes for 40min! each time I was there! I was so tired before I even stretched or shadowboxed. I remember hitting the fronts of my bare toes till they wre bruised cuz my calfs were so tired I could barley jump.

[Erinblue]

I hope this works. Found a pick of that big ass dog!

[Jaw-Knee]

How's training in the hot weather?

I sweat like a pig training in COLD weather, gonna be hell for me :D

Love it, man. Keeps your mucles warm and gets you used to hitting things when you're tired.


So other than the pad work are the trainers telling you what to do as far as how long to skip rope or how many pullups/crunches to do or how long to work on the bag? Im sure it is different for you as you have been there alot longer than I was, Do you just do your thing till it is time to jump in the ring for pad work or clinching? The reason I ask is wit had me skip rope with those god awful thick jump ropes for 40min! each time I was there! I was so tired before I even stretched or shadowboxed. I remember hitting the fronts of my bare toes till they wre bruised cuz my calfs were so tired I could barley jump.

:eek: 40 minutes?

Lol, **** that, dude. Wit just told me to hit three rounds of jump rope that first day I went into training, so that's what I did and that's what I continue to do. Sometimes Phot just tells me to stretch out and jump in the ring.

Gotta love those thick jump ropes. :D I nailed my toes so many times this morning I wanted to smash something with a pipe, lol.

As for supplementals--most of the time it's just me doing my own thing. I rarely ever see anybody else throwing supplemental exercises into the routines, but it's what Wit told me to do, so I do it.


I hope this works. Found a pick of that big ass dog!

'Eyyyy, there he is. :D

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JUNE 18TH: MORNING SESSION

-10 minutes jump rope

-5 minutes shadow knees

-3 rounds shadow

-4 rounds kicks on bag

-5 rounds MT on pads


I'm not a morning person, lol. I'll leave it at that.

Weights this afternoon.

[GoutDeMiel]

I hope this works. Found a pick of that big ass dog!
awww


I'm not a morning person, lol.


;) :D

[Jaw-Knee]

EVENING

-10 minutes jump rope

-3 rounds shadow

-3 rounds kicks on bag

-7 rounds MT on pads: 5 on Thai pads, 2 on focus mitts (elbows and knees) for accuracy


Session was meh. Came home, ate, rested a bit, then hit the gym.

GYM: Back and Biceps

-3 sets wide-grip pull-ups: x10, x8, x4 (threw in 4 regular-grips on the last set)

-Lat pulldown (120x12) superset with BB rows (150x10): 3 sets

-Lat pulldown (120x10) superset with machine rows (120x10): 3 sets

-50 pushups for good measure

-BB curls: 60x10x3

-DB hammer curls: 35x12x3


I'm not hitting up that gym in the evening anymore. Place was packed, and there were too many douchey meatheads making a bunch of noise to show off how much they can lift. I was disappointed.

[TheStender]

I'm not hitting up that gym in the evening anymore. Place was packed, and there were too many douchey meatheads making a bunch of noise to show off how much they can lift. I was disappointed.

People are the same all over the world I guess.

[Jaw-Knee]

People are the same all over the world I guess.
It was primarily Western bodybuilders exhibiting the douchebaggery. I was literally shakin' my head.

[TheStender]

What kind of things are you doing when you're not training?

[Jaw-Knee]

What kind of things are you doing when you're not training?
Eating and sleeping. That's about it.

Took a walk down to the beachfront on Sunday. Cruised for a bit. Gonna do it again this Sunday for cheat food. :D

I should be playing my guitar more. Been lazy. Not cool.

[Madevilz]

Took a walk down to the beachfront on Sunday. Cruised for a bit. Gonna do it again this Sunday for cheat food. :D


Cheat food? Dude, you're training twice a day, eat wutever the hell you want lol, I know I will.

Btw, Rosalie told me the beach is like a 10min walk from the room, is it true?

[Jaw-Knee]

Cheat food? Dude, you're training twice a day, eat wutever the hell you want lol, I know I will.

Btw, Rosalie told me the beach is like a 10min walk from the room, is it true?

Can't eat Mickey D's and Haagen Dazs every day. :D

Little bit more than 10 minutes if you go down by Walking Street, but yeah, it's close. Frickin' nice man. Lots of trees. Lol, just be prepared to get skeezed on by lots of hookers.

[Madevilz]

Cant wait to get there man.

Take pics! :D

[Jaw-Knee]

Cant wait to get there man.

Take pics! :D
Will do, mang. Weekend's comin' up. :cool:

[GoutDeMiel]

Will do, mang. Weekend's comin' up. :cool:

one more week down.... :)

[Jaw-Knee]

one more week down.... :)
Indeed. :D

[GoutDeMiel]

Indeed. :D

Not that I'm counting or anything :rolleyes:

[Jaw-Knee]

FRIDAY, JUNE 19TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-3 rounds shadow

-6 rounds MT

--3 on pads

--3 working kicking/blocking technique w/ shin guards

-3 rounds kicks on bag

-2 rounds shadow kicks


Bad day. Don't want to get into it. Training again tomorrow and making up for lost time at the gym.

[Madevilz]

Few questions, how much does food cost you daily?

And also, a lot of my friends are asking me to bring them back MT shorts, how much do they cost on average?

[Jaw-Knee]

Few questions, how much does food cost you daily?

And also, a lot of my friends are asking me to bring them back MT shorts, how much do they cost on average?
Depends on the day and depends where you eat. Also depends on whether or not you're bringing protein with you. What's your budget like?

Don't know about shorts. Talk to Rosalie.

[Jaw-Knee]

SATURDAY, JUNE 20TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-3 rounds kicking/blocking

-4 rounds MT on pads

-3 rounds front kicks on bag

-Supplemental:

--pull-ups: 12x2

--bench situps: 50 (+20 kilos on last 15), 20 +20 kilos


Not bad today. Gotta kill these nerves in my shins, though; right shin's feeling tender from blocks, and I'm unhappy about it. Lulz.

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JUNE 22ND


Gym--Chest/Triceps

-Bench: 245 x 7, 235 x 6 x 4

-8 WG pull-ups

-Incline Bench: 185 x 7 x 5

-6 WG pull-ups

-Chest Press (110 x 12) superset w/ Cable Crossover (180 x 10): 3 sets

-8 pull-ups

-CG Bench: 135 x 10 x 3

-Dips: 10 x 3

Muay Thai

-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-6 rounds MT

-3 rounds boxing

-3 rounds kicks on bag

-50 pushups supplemental


Tore it up today. Wit pushed me hard on pads--was stoked. He had me throwing doubles and triples on kicks. Kicks were looking sharp (for the most part), hands were looking sharper than they have in a while... Good day. :D

Didn't do supplementals because I was about to puke at the end of the session. Not that that's really an excuse, but it seemed like a good one at the time. ;)

[Madevilz]

Nice workout, which trainer do you like the most?

I heard Wit goes at a very fast paced while Somphot is more technical.

[Jaw-Knee]

Nice workout, which trainer do you like the most?

I heard Wit goes at a very fast paced while Somphot is more technical.
Yeah, Phot gets a lot more nitpicky about technique and Wit drills you. Good to train with both.

I like training with Phot a lot, but it was definitely a nice change of pace to just throw until I wanted to sit down.

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JUNE 23RD: MORNING SESSION

-5 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-15 minutes clinching

-3 rounds MT*

-1 round boxing**


*Just did a bunch of kicks.

**Wit had me throw 1-2s the whole round.

[JAWS22]

Sounds like your working it out like a Buzkashi horse. Nice!

[Jaw-Knee]

AFTERNOON

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals:

--pull-ups: x 13, x 10

--pushups: 50 x 2

--bench situps: 50 x 2


Phot told me to take the day off and come back tomorrow.

[Madevilz]

Phot told me to take the day off and come back tomorrow.

lol, did you look too tired or what?

[Jaw-Knee]

lol, did you look too tired or what?
Told me to go home and clear my head. Said there'll be time to train tomorrow.

[Jaw-Knee]

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 24TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-Supplementals

--pull-ups: x 10, x 9

--pushups: 50 x 2

-5 rounds boxing

-2 rounds bag


Another short session. Phot told me I still wasn't looking good. Felt sluggish, shoulders got sore really quick; I'm betting it was lack of food. Got groceries tonight, though, so tomorrow should be better.

[GoutDeMiel]

Another short session. Phot told me I still wasn't looking good. Felt sluggish, shoulders got sore really quick; I'm betting it was lack of food. Got groceries tonight, though, so tomorrow should be better.

squinted eyes are squinted

[Madevilz]

sucks dude, hope you feel better in the next session

btw JK, Its now confirmed, im arriving in Pattaya on July 14th, gonna start training the very same day if I dont get jet lagged lol
Hope to meet you there bro!

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JUNE 25TH

Today was primarily about eating.


Evening

-10 minutes jump rope

-10 Gironda pull-ups (overhand grip)

-50 pushups

-8 slow-negative pull-ups w/ pause @ bottom

-50 pushups

-2 rounds shadow

-7 rounds MT

-2 rounds boxing


btw JK, Its now confirmed, im arriving in Pattaya on July 14th, gonna start training the very same day if I dont get jet lagged lol
Hope to meet you there bro!

NICE. http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Jaw-Knee]

FRIDAY, JUNE 26TH

Early Session

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals:

--pull-ups: x 12, x 10

--50 pushups

-3 rounds MT

-5 rounds clinching


Late Session

-Supplementals:

--pull-ups: 10 x 2

--100 pushups (total)

-5 rounds boxing


It occured to me today that I've been slacking on core.

Early session sucked because my shins were hurting; started when I was jumping rope. Don't know what it's from. Clinching's good, but I got my ass handed to me and I was looking forward to working some MT.

Off to the gym now for weights.

[GoutDeMiel]

Early session sucked because my shins were hurting; started when I was jumping rope. Don't know what it's from.

could be shin splints - you don't always get them from running.

what kind of surface are you jump roping on? you do jump rope a lot. try stretching your calves really good before and after your workouts - including your tibialis anterior:
http://www.dubinchiro.com/images/shin4.gif (on the left)

once the tibialis anterior becomes strained or too tired, the impact from jump roping will be transferred to your tibia bone instead of being absorbed by the surrounding muscle.

jump roping causes the same amount of trauma to your legs as running does.

[Jaw-Knee]

GYM

-WG pull-ups: x 10, x 10, x 7

-Lat pulldown (120 x 12) superset w/ BB rows (155 x 10); 3 sets

-Lat pulldown (140 x 8) superset w/ seated cable rows (150 x 8); 3 sets

-BB curls: 70 x 12 x 3

-Rope hammer curls: 3 drop sets--140 x 8>100 x 8> 60 x 8


Beasted it. Was stoked. :D


could be shin splints - you don't always get them from running.

what kind of surface are you jump roping on? you do jump rope a lot. try stretching your calves really good before and after your workouts - including your tibialis anterior:

(on the left)

once the tibialis anterior becomes strained or too tired, the impact from jump roping will be transferred to your tibia bone instead of being absorbed by the surrounding muscle.

jump roping causes the same amount of trauma to your legs as running does.

Puzzle mats.

Thing is, it's not like it's anything extreme... So I dunno. Think it could be it?

[GoutDeMiel]

Puzzle mats.

Thing is, it's not like it's anything extreme... So I dunno. Think it could be it?

yes. the pain doesn't have to be extreme.

[Jaw-Knee]

yes. the pain doesn't have to be extreme.
I mean the jump rope.

[GoutDeMiel]

I mean the jump rope.

Yeah - think about it.

You don't jump flat footed so you're keeping your tibialis anterior flexed the whole 10 or so minutes that you're jumping rope. That's a long time for such a muscle and it's most likely totally spent by the time you're done whether you realize it or not.

Without adequate rest, it can't absorb as much shock as it would if it were fresh. The impact of the jumps then gets absorbed by your tibia causing microscopic fractures and as a result, the pain you're feeling.

As long as it's not too painful you're fine. But, once it starts to really hurt, you should find an alternate way to warm up.

Stretching your shins (backs and front) and icing them really helps. So do massages. :)

[Jaw-Knee]

Yeah - think about it.

You don't jump flat footed so you're keeping your tibialis anterior flexed the whole 10 or so minutes that you're jumping rope. That's a long time for such a muscle and it's most likely totally spent by the time you're done whether you realize it or not.

Without adequate rest, it can't absorb as much shock as it would if it were fresh. The impact of the jumps then gets absorbed by your tibia causing microscopic fractures and as a result, the pain you're feeling.

As long as it's not too painful you're fine. But, once it starts to really hurt, you should find an alternate way to warm up.

Stretching your shins (backs and front) and icing them really helps. So do massages. :)

10 minutes is usually just over three rounds--including minute-long breaks.

Maybe it's shin splints... But I'll be unhappy if three measly warm-up rounds of jump rope are giving me shin splints. :mad:

[GoutDeMiel]

10 minutes is usually just over three rounds--including minute-long breaks.

Maybe it's shin splints... But I'll be unhappy if three measly warm-up rounds of jump rope are giving me shin splints. :mad:

still - its the impact that matters. breaks don't cut down on the impact made on your shins.

it's just an acclimation issue. your body will get used to it. were you jump roping the months before you got to thailand?? ;)

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JUNE 29TH

Gym: Chest and Triceps

-Bench: 245 x 8, 7, 7, 6, 5

-10 WG pull-ups

-Incline Bench: 205 x 5 x 5

-10 WG pull-ups

-Chest Press (130 x 12) superset w/ Cable Crossover (200 x 10): 1 set. Some dude hijacked the cables after I finished up and then the rest of the vultures swooped in. I was unhappy.

-Chest Press: 130 x 12 x 2

-DB Pullovers: 100 x 8, 8, 7

-9 WG pull-ups

-CG Bench: 155 x 10 x 3

-Dips (x 15) superset with V-Grip Pull-ups (x 7): 3 sets


Muay Thai

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals:

--Pull-ups: x 10, 10, 9 (hands got sweaty and slipped on the last rep, so I missed 10; I was unhappy)

--Pushups: 50 x 3

--Bench situps: 50 x 3

-2 rounds shadow

-6 rounds MT


There's something to be said getting in the supplementals before pads. That, and Wit drilled me. Felt good, though. Ran out of time before I could do bag work--will hit it hard tomorrow.

It's Wit's birthday tonight, so there's a get-together up at the gym and then they might be going out. I'm beat... So I dunno.

[GoutDeMiel]

you need whey :(

[scbork]

you need whey :(

out of money or I'd send him some :(

[GoutDeMiel]

out of money or I'd send him some :(

well, even if you did it wouldn't get to him.

tried that already :(

ghey

[scbork]

well, even if you did it wouldn't get to him.

tried that already :(

ghey

why not?

[GoutDeMiel]

why not?

i dunno

[scbork]

i dunno

how stupid.

[dimasso69]

im in..im interested in actually learning muy thai, so i thought id tag along...and as for being in thailand..hows the food, a friend of mine went told me he got a huge plate of foods for an american quater

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JUNE 30TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals:

--Pull-ups: 10 x 2

--Bench situps: 50 x 2

-3 rounds bag

-7 rounds MT (easy pace)


So my better judgment went out the window last night and I ended up getting down on the Sang Som (Thai rum) and Coke. Got wasted. Feel stupid. Today was uncomfortable.


im in..im interested in actually learning muy thai, so i thought id tag along...and as for being in thailand..hows the food, a friend of mine went told me he got a huge plate of foods for an american quater

Food's good. Prices depend on where you are, but I've never heard of a vendor selling huge plates of food for only 8 baht in Phuket or Pattaya.

[Jaw-Knee]

WEDNESDAY, JULY 1ST

Early Afternoon

-10 minutes jump rope

-3 rounds shadow

-5 rounds boxing


Short session. Left hand wasn't all there. Errands afterward.


Later

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals: pull-ups x (12, 12, 10), pushups x 50, bench situps x 50 --> 3 sets

-3 rounds bag

-2 10/9/8s* (w/ minute break)

-Pads:

--5 rounds MT

--2 rounds boxing


Left hand sucked. Left leg was okay, though. Teeps are looking a lot better.

*10/9/8:

10 jumping jacks
10 sprawls
10 pushups
10 situps
10 jump squats

Then x 9, x 8, and so on and so forth. Feels good. MMA drill, but good for cardio. More tomorrow.

[GoutDeMiel]

your pullups are improving really quickly

[pedrolima]

hey, never knew of this


subbed

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JULY 2ND


Early Session

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals: pull-ups x (12, 12, 10), pushups x 50, bench situps x 50 --> 3 sets

-5 rounds MT


Late Session

-10 minutes jump rope

-10/9/8

-25 bag sprawls*

-5 rounds boxing

-2 rounds bag


Sore and tired today. Puked after supps early session--something wasn't sitting well. Only made it through one 10/9/8.

Bag sprawl: 2-5 piece combo with a sprawl.

Off to lift. Will report back.

[Jaw-Knee]

Gym

-WG pull-ups: x 11, 10, 8, 8, 11 (had to wait to use the station on the last set; got some time to recover, I guess)

-Lat pulldown (120 x 12) superset w/ BB rows (155 x 10); 3 sets

-Lat pulldown (150 x 8) superset w/ seated cable rows (165 x 8); 3 sets

-BB curls: 80 x 9 x 3

-Rope hammer curls: 1 drop sets--140 x 8>100 x 4> 60 x 8


Arms felt like crap today. Next workout will be better.

[bitty_bish]

Keeping tabs on you, brah...keep it up. :) We believe in your butt ;)

[scbork]

Keeping tabs on you, brah...keep it up. :) We believe in your butt ;)

this. progress pics are due very soon ;)

[Jaw-Knee]

FRIDAY, JULY 3RD

Visa run today. Stayed up all night thinking I'd be able to sleep on the bus... Didn't realize that A) Thai roads aren't remotely smooth and B) the shocks on the bus suck ass.

Feel crappy (getting sick). Passed out a short while after I got back to the room (around 2:45 PM) and woke up a few minutes ago. Gym won't be closed tomorrow, though, so I'll get to training.

[scbork]

FRIDAY, JULY 3RD

Visa run today. Stayed up all night thinking I'd be able to sleep on the bus... Didn't realize that A) Thai roads aren't remotely smooth and B) the shocks on the bus suck ass.

Feel crappy (getting sick). Passed out a short while after I got back to the room (around 2:45 PM) and woke up a few minutes ago. Gym won't be closed tomorrow, though, so I'll get to training.

lay out in the sun while youre at it, I betta see some color.

[Jaw-Knee]

lay out in the sun while youre at it, I betta see some color.
Don't know if a ton of sun is what I need to feel better, lulz.

[scbork]

Don't know if a ton of sun is what I need to feel better, lulz.

vitamin d son ;)

[Erinblue]

Sick huh? That sucks man, been eating any street food? I got sick as hell after I ate some "chicken" on a stick from some stand on Pattaya beach. Hope you feel better? Logs going good man. How much longer you there?

[Jaw-Knee]

vitamin d son ;)

Easy to overdo it.


Sick huh? That sucks man, been eating any street food? I got sick as hell after I ate some "chicken" on a stick from some stand on Pattaya beach. Hope you feel better? Logs going good man. How much longer you there?

It's not a stomach thing.

Here until August 15th or so.

[dimasso69]

TUESDAY, JUNE 30TH

-10 minutes jump rope

-Supplementals:

--Pull-ups: 10 x 2

--Bench situps: 50 x 2

-3 rounds bag

-7 rounds MT (easy pace)


So my better judgment went out the window last night and I ended up getting down on the Sang Som (Thai rum) and Coke. Got wasted. Feel stupid. Today was uncomfortable.



Food's good. Prices depend on where you are, but I've never heard of a vendor selling huge plates of food for only 8 baht in Phuket or Pattaya.

Nice workouts dude..and idk where the guy went i couldnt tell ya..do u get sick from the food there at all that you know of?..or the water, just bottled?


FRIDAY, JULY 3RD

Visa run today. Stayed up all night thinking I'd be able to sleep on the bus... Didn't realize that A) Thai roads aren't remotely smooth and B) the shocks on the bus suck ass.

Feel crappy (getting sick). Passed out a short while after I got back to the room (around 2:45 PM) and woke up a few minutes ago. Gym won't be closed tomorrow, though, so I'll get to training.

Damn dude..sounds like ur overworking?

[GoutDeMiel]

Damn dude..sounds like ur overworking?

Or maybe not enough rest and good food?

:D

[BreesieBabby]

how come I never knew of this???


subbed...

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JULY 6TH


Gym

-Bench: 245 x 8, 7, 6, 6, 5 (lulz)

-10 WG pull-ups

-Incline Bench: 205 x 6 x 5

-10 WG pull-ups

-Chest Press (130 x 12) SS w/ Crossovers (200 x 10) x 3

-10 WG pull-ups

-15 dips SS w/ 7 V-grip pull-ups x 3


Muay Thai

-3 rounds jump rope w/ a few sprints (on rope) thrown in

-Supp circuit x 2 (Phot told me to wrap my hands halfway through the second circuit)

-5 rounds MT

-3 rounds sparring


So I got sick over the weekend. There was some sort of crap going around, which was probably what I got. Should've sweated it out some on Saturday, but didn't. Still feeling lazy for it, not gonna lie.

Last day of antibiotics was today... Stuff saps your energy. Crap gym session, crap training session (IMO).

Tomorrow will be better.

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JULY 7TH

First Session

-10 min. jump rope w/ some sprints

-supp circuit x 3

-10 rounds MT on pads

-3 rounds shadow


10 rounds was tough.

[Jaw-Knee]

Second Session

-10 min. jump rope

-3 rounds shadow

-3 rounds bag

-5 rounds boxing

[Madevilz]

TUESDAY, JULY 7TH

First Session

-10 min. jump rope w/ some sprints

-supp circuit x 3

-10 rounds MT on pads

-3 rounds shadow


10 rounds was tough.

10 rounds of 5 or 3 min? Either, that's a pretty rough session lol!

[Jaw-Knee]

10 rounds of 5 or 3 min? Either, that's a pretty rough session lol!
3 minutes.

You stoked to get here, brah? :D

[Madevilz]

3 minutes.

You stoked to get here, brah? :D

oh yeah brah, im counting the days
every hours at the office is painful :D

[dimasso69]

Or maybe not enough rest and good food?

:D

Yeahh makes me think of the quote "there's no such thing as overtraining, just undereating."-unknown..at least idr who said it lol

[GoutDeMiel]

Yeahh makes me think of the quote "there's no such thing as overtraining, just undereating."-unknown..at least idr who said it lol

hear that JK?

sounds like you need a personal chef :)

:cool:

[BreesieBabby]

hear that JK?

sounds like you need a personal chef :)

:cool:

wery wery eent-air-esting... ;)

[Jaw-Knee]

WEDNESDAY, JULY 8TH

First Session

-10 min. jump rope

-2 rounds shadow

-3 rounds bag

-5 rounds boxing


Second Session

-10 min. jump rope

-supp circuit x 2

-2 rounds shadow

-5 rounds boxing

-3 rounds boxing sparring w/ Wit


Felt kinda crappy today... Coughing up more green, lol. Thought I was over it, but apparently not. Shins were acting up, left elbow was acting up. Lol, then Wit tooled me in sparring. :D Was good, though. More sparring Friday.

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JULY 9TH

Muay Thai

-supp circuit x 2

-3 rounds shadow

-6 rounds MT


Felt like crap.


Gym

-WG pull-ups x 13, 10, 9 (50 pushups after 1st and 2nd set)

-Lat Pulldown (120 x 12) superset w/ BB rows (155 x 10) x 3

-Lat Pulldown (150 x 8) superset w/ Cable Rows (165 x 8) x 3

-BB Curls: 70 x 12, 10, 10

-Cable Rope Hammer Curls: 60 x 50


Felt everything a lot more than I usually do. Sore.

Hoping this passes soon.

[Jaw-Knee]

FRIDAY, JUNE 10TH

Went to the gym.

-Supp circuit x 3

-Squats (135 x 12) superset w/ Deadlifts (135 x 12) x 4


Nice easy day with some weights. First time doing squats and deads in a while 'cause I neglect some things, lol (aware it's not good). Tomorrow I'll probably take easy, too. Should feel better by Monday.

[Madevilz]

pm'ed ya brah, reply quick :D

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JULY 13TH

Gym

Bench: 245 x 10, 9, 9, 7, 7

8 WG pull-ups

Incline Bench: 225 x 5, 5, 4; 205 x 5; 185 x 8

8 WG pull-ups

Chest Press (130 x 12) superset w/ Cable Crossovers (200 x 10) x 3

8 WG pull-ups

CG Bench: 175 x 7 drop to 135 x 6--3 sets

Dips x 15 superset w/ V-grip pull-ups x 8--3 sets


Muay Thai

-5 min. jump rope

-Supp circuit x 3

-3 rounds bag

-3 rounds kicks on bag

-5 rounds sparring w/ Phot

-Supplementals on bag w/ partner:

--15 low kicks each side x 2

--15 middle kicks each side x 2

--50 knees x 2

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JULY 14TH

-10 min. jump rope

-Supp circuit x 3

-Supplemental abs: 50 crunches, 50 reverse crunches, 50 side crunches each side x 5

-5 rounds MT on pads

-3 rounds bag


Partner didn't show up to practice this evening; missed out on some supp bag work.

[Jaw-Knee]

I was tired and frickin' cranky when I got back, lulz.

Took a nap... Overslept. Missed training. Not too happy with myself right now.

[Jaw-Knee]

THURSDAY, JULY 16TH

-10 min. jump rope

-supp circuit x 2*

-1 1/2 rounds bag**

-5 rounds MT


*Puked after 2nd set

**Wit called me into the ring in the middle of the 2nd round


Felt pretty sick today. Bangkok again tonight, back in Pattaya tomorrow afternoon. Lol, guess this just isn't really a great week for training.

Met Madevilz today. Welcome to Pattaya, brah.

[Madevilz]

thanks brah

btw, JK is hyuge irl :D

[GoutDeMiel]

thanks brah

btw, JK is hyuge irl :D

I second this. :D

[1987GN]

I second this. :D

he wasn't refferring to his penis.

but I suppose you learn something new everyday.

[Jaw-Knee]

MONDAY, JULY 20TH

Gym

Bench: 255 x 7, 7, 6, 5, 5

Incline Bench: 225 x 5 x 5

Chest Press (150 x 12) superset w/ Crossovers (200 x 10) x 3

CG Bench: 185 x 7 --> 135 x 6, 3 sets

Dips (18) superset w/ V-Grip pull-ups (9, 8, 7) x 3


Muay Thai

-5 min. jump rope

-supp circuit x 3

-3 rounds bag

-3 rounds MT on pads

-5 rounds sparring


Weekend was good. http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Jaw-Knee]

TUESDAY, JULY 21ST

Big Buddha in the late morning/early afternoon.

Muay Thai

-10 min. jump rope

-supp circuit x 3

-3 rounds bag

-2 rounds kicks on bag

-6 rounds MT

-3 rounds boxing

[bernbabybern820]

Not to bash where you are training or anything but what do you think about this?

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/alert-do-not-go-scorpion-muay-thai-pattaya-1016748/

[Madevilz]

Not to bash where you are training or anything but what do you think about this?

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/alert-do-not-go-scorpion-muay-thai-pattaya-1016748/

Im not JK but I posted my thought about it on the thread. :D But OP was a bit harsh on the his comment about the training. The trainers are not bad, and they will push you hard on the pads. The money issue is my own fault and rather than stir any trouble, id rather finish the remaining weeks here and we'll see. Im kinda a bit upset that it has happened to other people though.

[Jaw-Knee]

SO

I got banned and couldn't update, LOL.

Anyway... Fought, lost the decision. Oh well. Better stuff next time.

[nuttybl]

SO

I got banned and couldn't update, LOL.

Anyway... Fought, lost the decision. Oh well. Better stuff next time.
I'm sure you'll learn from the experience and do better next time
btw what is the "supp circuit "?

[Jaw-Knee]

I'm sure you'll learn from the experience and do better next time
btw what is the "supp circuit "?
-10-12 pull-ups (dead hang with a pause)

-50 pushups

-50 situps on a decline bench


Then do it again, no rest. Rest for a few minutes afterward before shadow/bag/pads/whatever.